The animated Mulan showed a regular woman who trained and struggled to get stronger. This newer version was OP from the very start. Disney doesn't get it anymore. It's sad.
@@lululs4014 no. It is 100 % disney. The director, Niki Caro, has made numerous other films with interesting female leads. This movie is clearly a result of Disney going "LET'S PANDER!" without knowing how to pander or even write a good female character anymore.
@Erwin Lii the thing is, mulan is powerful for the wrong reasons in the live-action take. She is born powerful. She didn't earn her powers. She didn't work to gain a powerful chi. In the animated movie, she earned her power and earned the respect of the fellow soldiers by hard work and dedication and using her brain. It is much more interesting and inspiring to see someone mediocre earn their power and become a legend, than see someone born powerful just stay the same.
Everything look CGI and cartoonish like the phantom menace. I didn't suspect a sequel coming out so soon but at least there's a legacy behind the chosen one with a background story behind her life before the Jedi and her father want to protect her from the force
@@turret2683 The witch is Kylo Ren, she says in the movie; We'll finish what we started It's the final conclusion that Kylo Ren won't see a place for their kind until the old ways are gone
Disney Producer: It would be hard to write another character with as little growth or character arc as Rey. Disney screenwriter: Actually, it would be super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Not really. Right now they try to please an audience that it is not interested in their shit. Star Trek is the best example. They try to please a crowd that never cared for star trek.
Thing is that they are full of shit with that. They don't want to admit that the movie was the center of a woman that was refused enlistment for being a woman and so she pretended to be a man in order to join. The director obviously said "That's sexist" and went about destroying the Mulan legacy
@@reinderrider45 no the Chinese movie goers do like Mushu Eddie Murphy it is just a Privellaged vocal minority wanted a historical authentic disney film it is only because the vocal minority holds powerful diplomatic political interests.
@@reinderrider45 Just to add some info to anyone who believes making fun of dragons in China or Asia is seen as disrespectful. Its not. Not all dragons are the same. The dragon was a imperial symbol and heads up the Chinese abolished their monarchy decades ago. Tiny dragons are made fun of all the time in Chinese stories. Dragons don't have that kind of religious symbolism, its not like its a depiction of the Islamic prophet.
Did nobody realize that Mulan barely had 10 lines in her own movie? Seriously, rewatch it. She barely talks and most of the time just sits there with a serious face.
Old memories when mulan earned everyone's respect by discovering the secret of weights you need discipline and strength to reach the arrow. and she was the only one who literally tied them to not fall
It's sort of like Disney only understand the most surface level simplistic version of a strong woman. So when they need to show a strong female character it's not about growth of character it's just about a woman with stupidly overpowered abilities
Ironically, the original animation shows the power of woman character much better. In the original, Mulan manage to join the army through hard working, and through intelligence and quick thinking, manage to accomplish none of man can do. This shows woman can do equally or much better than man by hard working and realisitic ability. But in this idiot movie, Mulan accomplish things by magic that does not exist in this world and luckily Mulan was born with it. It seems that movie is telling the world, “woman cannot surpass man except having supernatural power. Fuck off real world woman!” What a lazy writing
So it's a bad movie because they didnt make it 1:1 exactly similar to the animated film? Wow. I understand the movie is bad in terms of low budget. But I think the story was pretty fun to watch. I like the chi power. It's wasn't OP. And I like how the Phoenix was her guardian angel.
@@UltimateQball well, considering Disney marketed this movie as "realistic" and did any thing but, there are other reasons to not be impressed. No one is asking for a 1:1 remake. Stop using this as a defence. Its a cop out When the remake is a pale interpretation of the original, yeah, people can get annoyed. You are meant to improve or build up the story if you are making a remake, not make it worse.
Fck...At least they didn't add Mushu for the Jar Jar Binks effect...but that wasn't a creative decision, that was cuz China said "Do it the way we want it or else" and Disney complied because they love that China money.
@@alexthelizardking Well...China has a population of almost 1.4 billion people, more than 1/7 the population of the entire planet. The Chinese government has made it so that no foreign company, even one as big as Disney, can do business in China without a locally owned surrogate company to do their business for them. On top of all of that, the Chinese government has a long list of rules that any movie, game, song, or book being published within their borders has to comply with. If Disney doesn't do either of these things, they can't sell their movie to that 1.4 billion people, which equates to a lot of potentially missed sales.
@@mq5731 That's not true, Chinese people also dislike this movie. Disney has failed to please both sides. You should check out Mulan: Rise of a Warrior (2009) like the other person has mentioned, it's free on TH-cam and it was produced within China. Disney has failed Mulan because they didn't respect the audience nor the history, they just wanted quick money.
@@stephen2577 Oh I know that people In China don't like it either. I had heard they liked a different Mulan movie, didn't know it came out in 2009 though. But just because people in China didn't like the film, doesn't mean that it wasn't Disney's target audience. It is possible the film failed for multiple reasons, but seeing as I have not watched the film(Did anyone really want to pay 30$ for something that would have been free in a few months?), I can't speak to weather or not Disney disrespected the audience.
I feel like going realistic was a mistake. One of the things that makes the Disney animated movies so compelling is their music and art. Edit: When I say it’s realistic, I’m referring to how the movie isn’t a musical and has more realistic visuals
People flying around and turning into bird? and then tell ppl Disney movie is going realistic so there is no music and singing? I have no idea what Disney is trying to do....at least Aladdin has singing, and Lion king has Lion, Mulan?
"She's good at everything but it isn't earned." sounds like Rey, disney seems to have an issue with setting up characters..... Nobody connects with people who are automatically awesome at everything!
N a i v a r o Yep, Women have always been amazing at everything, it's just these terrible toxic straight men holding them back... because it's not like Goku, Neo, Karate Kid, Luke Skywalker, or even the OG Mulan ever had to train hard or go through epic journeys to become super powerful...
Exactly. Even if you look at someone like Michael Jordan, he had to work extremely hard and work with his team to be as good as he was. He lost a lot of games and many of the series he was playing in were never clear cut. The Bulls always had something to prove. But Mulan, and Rey, are good without earning it at all. No training, no countless hours perfecting their craft. You can’t relate to that.
@@EZ-IZZY1995 I didn't know they mess up this bad in new one. It like they were better off making a entirely different movie. Mulan wasnt a Rey in the original at all. It was apparent in origina that the general Li Shang was the strongest of the army.
Christopher Barker you’re right people who love Mulan always have that special place in their heart and seeing this remake will probably break it but you’re right about what happens who cares because I will not listen to those good reviewer‘s who love this movie because they’re probably people don’t watch the original or people who did watch the original and say that it’s cool or woke
The whole time I was like "that's not how the chi (force) works!!" They made chi magic, I'm so pissed. It makes me happy the Chinese audience absolutely hates this movie as well
Star Wars 7-9 ended up pleasing most people-- turns out youtube and reddit don't represent the majority of the audience. They also received, on average, good reviews and tons of profit. If they didn't please you, though, that's perfectly fine.
@@Woozma A lot of that is also true of 1-3 and the reality is those have a very mixed legacy among fans as well. Also "pleasing most people" can't be measured by box office results.
@@robm6645 You're right, that's why we have rotten tomatoes' audience score. I'm not gonna argue any further than saying the following: you cannot tell me with a straight face that ANY of the star wars films "pleased nobody." That's the statement of someone who thinks that their demographic is the only one that exists, and all of the moviegoers outside of this website are irrelevant.
Moral of the story: You’re only special, if you’re special. Or The only women who matter, are the ones with fighting abilities (physically compete with men)
just another black man I mean nowadays a lot of women are taking self defense classes in case god forbid something horrible did happen. But dude, watch what you say cause your comment didn’t say, “it would be nice if a lot of women learned how to fight.” Ur comment literally said that nobody would want a women who couldn’t fight.
@@RedSharkey27 Really, they prefer this shit remake over the original animation? The 90s animation and the 2009 Live-Action are far better that the 2020 remake!!!
@@Don11037 basically the original shows that with enough determination and effort a woman can be just great a warrior as a man. In this movie, she seems to be special from the get go and is given "powers" by the witch which completely ruins the message of the beloved animated film.
@@FXD609 oh wow that's some shit Disney is so soulless didnt even think about that they were probably like we should make this woman powerful without even thinking about it
@@FXD609 I would add that the moral is also falial piety (loyalty to the family/father) when they introduced chi and lowered the stakes, it also took away a huge portion of Mulan's motivation. Mulan didn't set out to be a badass warrior or prove herself against men, that was just an awesome byproduct of her trying to survive and maintain honor. She genuinely cared about her country, her family, and her brothers in arms and that drover her to stay, to train, and to fight.
@@Don11037 Even worse than that is the fact that the movie contradicts *its own* message. Xian Lang (the witch) at one point tells Mulan that her chi is being held back because she is lying to herself by dressing up as a man. However, Mulan is dressing up as a man not because she *wants* to dress up in men's clothes to express her chi, but because she *has* to dress up as a man in order to get into the army. She will literally be killed if she joins as a woman. Additionally, Xian Lang throws a knife at Mulan's chest to kill her, but she is saved because she is still wearing her chest brace, something that she was ONLY wearing to conceal her gender. If she hadn't been wearing this and pretending to be a man, she would have died. This scene goes against the lesson that we were JUST given.
ComradCommodore no madden if it have a good game 11 to 12 Disney on the other hand only Alice in the wonderland is probably a pass the rest of their life action remakes suck
Wait I thought this was based off the ballad of Mulan where Mulan was a pure badass Also has a bunch of chinese actors and actresses that I’ve seen in other Chinese films that do badass stuff. Oh wait this mainly an American comment section full of us westerners who wanted a disney movie but also get mad when culture is appropriated
@@camberedyakuza No we just want good cultural appropriation. Would you want to appropriate French baking or North Korean "Re-education camps"? One seems much better to appropriate than the other.
camberedyakuza wtf are you even talking about? You’re probably down for the little mermaid being black instead of a ginger. Disney is fucking full of people who I’m assuming didn’t even watch the animations
em1ownerify look up the ballad of Mulan. This is probably second accurate to the accounts of the legend of Hua Mulan. You’re proving that you know nothing about the actual legend that even the ‘98 original was loosely based on. Yes disney wants profits but what they were doing was actually good for this movie and all of western civilization does not understand it. They are truly depicting chinese culure and a legend pretty well. But since most of us know only the 98 movie, we want a talking dragon and some singing classics.
And add magical chi making mulan good at combat from the onset, I mean who needs to show training montages nowadays. Just give your protagonist a gimmick to save the extra minutes of movie time.
Also the argument of not putting Mushu in the movie to respect Chinese culture falls flat. Witches did not exist in the Chinese culture as you point out. So her "existence" in the movie is as disrespectful as Mushu's would have supposedly been. Even the symbolic of the Phoenix as they intend to in this movie is pure bs from a Chinese culture perspective.
@@Bllll957 Witches are a part of every culture they just have different names Ancient China had witches in fact Witch Craft is pretty popular in modern China to it's mostly fortune telling and palm reading But every culture has witches
@Marie Chambe actually “witch craft” , and magic does exist in Chinese culture and every culture. They show Asian sorcerers in all types of movies. There were practitioners of the dark arts referred to as a Wu and Gu. The majority of Chinese “ mysticism” can be categorized as “witchcraft” or “magic” basically. They didn’t use Mushu because they thought it was “politically incorrect”
She is a chinese actress famous on that side for being a terrible actress. Honestly it looks like disney didn't care about quality at all as long as they could claim to "respect" culture.
I remember feeling very empowered as a small girl after watching Mulan but this... it doesn't make me feel strong it makes me feel insecure and i'm in my 20's. When i was small my self esteem was very low because i wasn't born as privileged as my classmates, i wasn't from wealthy family, i wasn't pretty, i wasn't really talented etc etc. but stuff like Mulan helped me realize i can just *become* who i want to be what resulted with me learning art and languages all by myself in very young age. Now Mulan remakes came out and it did COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what original did - it tells girls you have to be born the certain way or practice since being a fetus to be worth anything, again, they did the exact same with other remakes. It's not female empowerment, female empowerment is showing characters that are human, flawed but still capable of overcoming obstacles because this is something women and girls can relate to. 2020's Mulan is some goddamn personalityless one man army on steroids but always with great hair, good luck relating to that.
Lol even 80's action heroes to have more personality than many of the recent films that try to make strong female charaters as a lot of them tend to forget the character part and focus on the strong but not in any way present that strength in any intresting way. The only one that hit the nail in my opinion is DC with wonder woman as she has Character.
If studios want to make characters strong make that strengthhas to be interesting we watch Comando not because Arnold is a dude but because he is a Dad rescuing his child if they want a hero to be superstrong just atleast make them have humanity.
I'm calling it, next movie is gonna be live-action "Hercules", with no supernatural elements, except for the witch character that wasn't in the original. Meg's gonna be the one to save Hercules at the end of the movie, Phil's gonna be played by Donnie Yen, and there won't be a single dead person in the Underworld. The product placement jokes are still in there, but "updated for a modern audience".
No no you cant have a strong white straight male protagonist these days remember? its gonna be HerculeSA! the female demi-god of color ... mark my words :)
1:41 1. It was the Huns, not the Mongols 2. The Rourans were actually some pretty scary people, and are the actual original people Mulan fought. Of course, Disney butchered them.
@@as7river What? Surely a mere 600 years or so difference between them doesn't make that much difference! That's only 2 and ~half Americas! (Age of the USA) :P
@@as7river Our world history books are about half as thick as the American history one. Says a lot about how important world history is to us Americans.
huns vs Mongols, is like apples vs oranges, very similar and from a distance you could confuse them but up close there are some noticable differences lol
Original Mulan animated film: A film about a woman proving herself with her own prowess and strength, showing her worth in her own power. Stupid remake: Nah, she's just magic, that's why she's so great. Wahmen power! smh
sophon block but you’ said in your original comment that the movie was trying to be more historically accurate which is hardly the case since there is no such thing as magical chi. Skill and accomplishments are in thanks only to a person’s hard work and determination and I’m not being a crybaby I’m simply voicing my opinion no need to attack someone just because you’re triggered by the fact that they disagree with you.
sophon block it’s kind of a bad artistic choice for the story her accomplishments would be more inspiring for viewers if there was no natural talent at play as most people won’t have that raw natural talent at things. I feel in my opinion that overcoming the odds despite your flaws and weaknesses is much more compelling but I understand your original comment now Joe made it seem that chi was something magical rather than just another word for talent.
@@MrAllmightyCornholioz Still, the whole purpose of the animated movie was the jorney, just like in almost everything Mulan, but this one had none, she was already trained, with no learning it kinda defeats the purpose.
@@MrAllmightyCornholioz When writing a story the character needs a form of development to appeal to readers/watchers. Sure she had training but there should have still been more possible development in her skills. It would have been interesting to see what would have been different if they kept her clumsy personality trait. 🤔
Sad fact :This movie was filmed in xinjiang,china.. that was right next to the Ugyhur Muslims concentration camps!!!and in the end of the movie credit they literally thanked the Chinese government and the cccp like WTF..
So even Disney plus has micro transactions now? I hardly ever go to the theater because I find 12 euros to expensive, no way in hell I'll pay 30 to watch this from home.
Honestly, I kinda hate what they did to the father's character? It seems like everyone on the internet just lets it slide because there are bigger things to chew on, but for me, a *huge* part of the original animation was that father character, and how he is always supportive of Mulan and appreciates her for her. I think Mulan 1998 is very smart of showing it: father's fondness is never spelled out until that final scene that makes me cry every time it is even referenced, but his smile says everything in scenes he has no words, and the two times he goes off at Mulan that is obviously hurting him no less than Mulan herself. Meanwhile, the movie father explicitly says he failed to raise Mulan the right way, and in the final scene he admits that to Mulan and says that only now that she majorly succeeded in the army he sees how awesome she actually is. It's something that 1998 Mulan would never ever do. I have to assume it's more of a personal thing for me than it is a bad thing for everyone, but for me, this unsupportiveness of the father stings on the same level as making Mulan a Mary Sue, so, basically destroys the whole story.
I feel like Mulan's father in the original showed in many ways his fondness over Mulan even before the final scene such as that flower scene where he tells Mulan about how a flower hasn't bloomed yet but someday it will indicating that she too will bloom someday. Then the whole entire thing of him going to war happens directly after that.
@@andreasmeelie1889 Yes, that! Like how he sees Mulan returning from the matchmaker all sad and looking away, and then follows her into the garden right after that. Or how he delivers that "Mulan, you dishonor me" line, but not in a reprimanding way, not looking her in the eye. Just, whichever scene he is in, whatever he does and whatever new stuff we learn about his character, we also have the constant reaffirmation that, yes, he is that and also the one who cares deeply about Mulan.
No Mushu No Lucky Cricket No "Make a Man, Out of You" No Shang No Comedy No Life No Point No BUY! Seriously wait for the re-release of Mulan Animated and skip this trash.
Why wait for a re-release? Just pirate the movie man. Hundreds of torrents available out there. You want to fork out more money for a movie that's already been out there for years?
It's not racism, it's because Chinese test audiences flat out loathed Mushu's character in the original. And Murphy didn't voice Mushu in the Chinese version of the film anyway, Taiwanese Comedian Jacky Wu did.
I haven’t actually watched this new Mulan movie. But in every trailer, picture, promotion and video I’ve seen, mulan looks lifeless, she had no shred of emotion and always has a blank expressionless face. Like not even half a smile. How are we supposed to empathize with that????
Don't worry there are a bunch of idiots out there who are defending this practice by assuming that everyone whose watching this is watching this in a group and not by themselves and also has a large home theater set up that can supposedly match the cinema experience.
@@TheEquilibrum007 I dont care and its not my problem, But its not worth 30$. Its not even worth 30$ to watch it in the movies. Hell, a blu-ray of this movie is not worth 30$. Fuck that.
They could've atleast stick to the original movie in terms of comedy and feel despite being live action Disney just don't know what most viewers want so out of touch (Ricky gervais was right) ... So they just make movies that appeal to the feminists /sjw community. And I thought Disney said they are not going to force any sjw politics in their movies anymore? They said this recently
It's not that they are "running out of ideas". Disney is the largest entertainment company on earth. There are probably plenty of pitches and plenty of creative people. The problem is that the shareholders and Executives would prefer to cash in on existing IP.
I can’t believe they made Mulan ultra talented from childhood. The training was the most inspiring part, showing that anyone could be a warrior (or whatever else) with enough effort, training, and ingenuity. Making her just a badass from birth ruins that.
@@Don11037 young girls dont like this narrative, western world has barely any sexism against women achieving their goals or at least thats what we tell them so they move on to "bigger" "dreams"... i see this on my nieces they would love this shit...
The Witch basically stated that she joined the invading horde because it is here only path to attain power....... And yet, she literally is the most overpowered character besides arguably Mulan in the entire movie.....
Here's a take from an Asian from South East Asia: I've grown up watching evening Chinese historical dramas. It's common here. This movie felt like that. Generic.
Have you ever seen Chinese costume dramas, you just say that Chinese costume dramas are boring? Even in China, there are many categories of costume dramas. There are costume dramas on love that you want to see, including martial arts dramas, fairy tales, official historical dramas, palace fighting dramas, time travel dramas, and many of them are very good to see, because we have many kinds of dramas, many of which are adapted from novels, and because we have complete historical materials and cultural relics, many of our historical dramas have a very high degree of restoration, exquisite production and very good music. Unlike your foreign countries, you always use stereotypes about China to make things related to our culture. It's really frustrating.
I was really looking forward to seeing Mulan even though there’re no Mushu and Crickee but they missed tons of things. For the people who are saying it’s inspired by the original ballad blah blah,, but they made a remake, they have to keep the impactful scenes with the original music in the movie. 1. No Shang 2. No grandma 3. No “Decision scene” 4. No dialogue between characters 5. No friendship & strong bond 6. No emotion 7. No impactful scenes 8. No character development 9. No struggle ( you just have to born with a magical superpower then you will achieve anything - which is so unrealistic from realistic movie they are saying) 10. No songs at all- I was ok with it’s not musical but there have to be songs in a movie. Even non-disney movies have songs! 11. Unconnected scenes 12. The most importantly they missed the main message of Mulan. Actually the most of the actors are capable of doing anything specially the funny soldiers and mulan’s love interest but they had barely lines. Overall I’m really dissapointed.
I just realized that they filmed many of the outdoor parts of the film in Xinjiang, near a couple of the "reeducation camps" there. They even thanked several government agencies that are in charge of the camps near their filming site, lol. Well, I think that about summed up the film.
@@LibeliumDragonfly You are saying a straight up lie. The op is correct, the details are stated on the movies ending credits. Are you part of the CCP to say such a bold lie?
The original Mulan was female empowerment done right. I never, ever had a problem with that movie or the way it portrayed things, because it didn't feel forced and in your face. It wasn't about Mulan being a rebel and going against tradition because it's stupid or whatever, but rather because it was something she felt she had to do. Ironically, even though she pretended to be a male in the animated film, she didn't have to throw away her femininity in the process. Which is so rare nowadays, when every strong female character has to act like a butch lesbian.
That's something feminists today tend to forget. Back when I was a child, there was a crap ton of female empowerment, as well as implied homosexuality of characters. It just wasn't crammed in your face.
That's what I like about OG Mulan. Even when she managed to match Shang in hand to hand combat, she also know that she's no match again Khan. Mulan didn't even use brute force to kill him, it was her wits. That's also something that modern feminist don't get.
This movie is american, so mulan being the hero, reprensents america, an american born in china, saving the world, cuz how else are they gonna save themsleves.
Disney: we will remove all of the magic and spirit elements that were in the animated Also Disney: We will make chi a big thing here, make Mulan the magical chosen one and most importantly add a witch that can do magic. No we are not being hypocritical why do you ask ?
They made the made the movie into a wuxia, that is Chinese fantasy. Magic in this genre is strictly body related, makes them super strong and able to "cast" spells that usually in the form of energy with elemental effects.
They turned a beloved strong female character who earned her stripes where hard work and sacrifice make an epic heroes journey. Into a mary sue. Disney deserved their losses.
Wow I never thought Alex and I would have something in common as I too think the original Disney Mulan is their best animation film and it is my favorite. Very disappointing to hear the live-action remake is hollow and terrible.
This movie is actually insulting to the first one. The first Mulan movie I felt had so many powerful messages like perseverance is something you choose to have, not something you are born with. And there's more than one kind of strength, if you can't beat an enemy through straight up slugging hands, then beat him with your mind. And rely on people who rely on you. By living a life where you never give up and you protect those you love, you bring honor to everyone around you. The new Mulan movie: Lmao just run on walls and stab everyone noob, why try at anything when you're already perfect kek.
Oh god the chi thing....why incorporate chi into this movie? It just doesn't work...And there's a movie that does that WAAY better: Kung Fu Panda 3. Because there Po GREW and EARNED that kind of higher power and you still feel that connection to him as a character. Here I just felt alienated from Mulan like "oh she has superpowers now? huh. Well there goes any and all tension and growth and eugh."
It takes away from the endearment that Mulan had in the classic film. Her reasons and struggles were for the life of her father. She knew she was potentially signing a death wish, but struggled anyway out of pure love and compassion and used her mind and wit to overcome her odds and challenges. That's what made her such a strong and lovable character. Now she's just OP as hell with magic....mmmk Disney lol.
@@cold_Lightning9 exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself. It also takes away what Disney loved about telling stories-the story of perseverance and skill getting you through the shit. It's why Cinderella is his favorite story. He felt like he related to her in a lot of ways. And by making Mulan super OP here it just feels false and you question more things like "oh okay the witch had to sacrifice herself for mulan? why couldn't Mulan dodge it with chi?" ugh
the chinese loved kungfu panda, they questioned why they weren't able to come up with that. they wouldve made Po perfect, which would've made him hollow.
Lol I hear that. Now days, I don't go see new movies because they look like dumpster fires before they release. So I just watch movie reviewers (Joe, Red Letter Media, etc.) tear them apart. haha
They're now boycotting the Mulan movie💁 & heard China bots are sent to give good reviews on the movie🤦 They can't just admit they made a garbage fire movie & accept it🤷
Grating, persistent Hollywood message: Women don't have to earn greatness. They're already great. It's all a matter of allowing themselves to shine. :::YAWN!!:::
It isn't a bad idea to come from for a story, but you have to understand how to write it. And that is the problem, it isn't that the character is powerful it is they don't have understanding on how to write an already powerful character.
@@darththeo Wrong, there is nothing relatable about a character that never has to work for a goal. To write an already powerful character you have to show their struggle on achieving that power and greatness, to jump head long into a story where there is no mortal danger because the character is the strongest or no moral conflicts because she is purity incarnate doesn't makes her superhuman and doesn't allow the audience to connect with the character. When all your dreams just magically come true because you are a women than yea you could write a story about that.
@Alexander Schmidt You're supposed to relate to a protagonist on some level, and they are supposed to somehow grow or change as a person, which is achieved by struggle and self-examination. That's basic storytelling. You can choose not to follow it if you like, but it will ultimately leave you with poorly-written garbage like Mulan 2020...
@@StickyFinguz I am sorry, I don't think you understood me. Let me try again. There is nothing wrong with a powerful character being powerful at the start, you have to know how to write the character's story. They still need a journey. Yes, characters need goals ... that was my point. Even powerful characters need a goal. The problem isn't the character already has greatness, it is they have greatness with no goal.
@@easolinas1233 And you don't need to relate personally to the story, it doesn't need to be an every man. I can't relate much to Superman or One Punch man, but I can see their stories and goals. And there are people who love those characters.
Disney Employee: "How many powers? Uh, all of them. Make her like Toph(the Earthbending little blind girl from Avatar), but bad, and also, make her have midocholrians like the main female protagonist from the latest Star Wars movies, and make her the most awesomest awesome superpowered(fictional) woman who ever lived!" Disney: "And also, take out everything that made the original 1998 Mulan great, take out the songs, Mushu, add in stupid stuff like a witch, and our complete and utter lack of understanding of what Chi ACTUALLY is!!! And butcher what makes Mulan great as a heroine, and completely anger fans of the animated version, and bore them beyond all belief, thus making the absolute WORST possible remake of a beloved movie ever witnessed by mankind!(Evil Laughter)".
Old: Women in the army??? PFFFT. They lack strength (uses intelligence instead). New: We and the enemy are fine with women soldiers. Also use chosen one Chi to overcome strength defect.
They really took away all the charm and colorful cast of characters, the thing that people loved about the original and gave us some boring, generic ass muppets
@@remliqa hmm your right but.. Whats funny those are the movies they can't messed up.. Ao whatever mistakes they made in the past film it might get fixed by they mistakes lol
@@megantvenstrup7687 The Chinese don't like to include black characters/actors in their films. When overseas films are released there, black characters are downplayed especially in advertising and their presence is usually reduced as much as possible.
I read somewhere that they removed a lot of the jokes/musical songs/characters because the original mulan movie was received negatively by China, calling it stereotypical and inaccurate. Which sucks tbh. The original was fun :o
@@fabiangonzalez-cortes8894 Really? Ok. But still, it just gives me that eerie feeling. Like Rush Hour was also very Chinese inspired, but I know that's because Jackie Chan is Chinese. This actress isnt that known to me.
So my takeaways: A woman can only be strong if they're already strong or just gifted The ideas of family ancestry is unrealistic but let's throw in magic Disney is openly ignoring human rights violations for profit
The audience review score is 57 now. The very first review I read is this one: "Mulan is really great, her action scene is so handsome!" This is absolutely written by a chinese person, using a translate program....the word handsome is a mistranslation of the word piao liang, which can also mean beautiful or even something like awesome. The 50 cent army has clearly been deployed.
"Dishonor on your cashcow" -Channel Awesome & "If you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one." -Mauler, these two quotes perfectly sum up the new Mulan movie.
It seriously sounds like what they did with Star Wars, namely Rey. A character who already has all the ability, gains the power and is essentially unstoppable because of her "Chi"/"Force".
Oh my goodness, when you see Alex with his face in his hands instead of AJ or OJ, you know this is going to be hot garbage. I have personally refused to see any of the live action remakes of classic Disney films as they are pointless when the original already still exists and holds up in quality.
To be honest, I don't know what Alex and OJ thinks anymore. 99% of the time it's just AJ talking to himself with thing one and thing two nodding in agreement like yes men. Heck even when the rare times they do disagree with Joe, he beats their opinion into submission until their opinion lines up with his. Sometimes I wonder why he bothers to have co-hosts.
The change of the Huns for the Rourans (however that's spelled) it's because they /supposedly/ aimed for more historically accurate villans. Cause this Mulan /supposedly/ was more realistic. Despite that /supposed/ point of view, there were no Chinese screenwriters or producers involved, so, according to actually Chinese reviewers, they screwed it up BIG TIME and was even more insulting to the culture than the OG animated version of Mulan.
Disney : " we can't say the M word..." Ghost of Tsushima : "you mean MONGOLS?" Edit : as the comments said, yes it was the Huns, also the "Be a Man" song... SMDH
Dude!!…Mulan was the one movie growing up I wanted SO BAD to be turned into live action. This was the ONE movie that I would have been completely happy if they did it completely the same as the animated one, shot by shot!! It already had so many things for a perfect live action film. - Good characters - Great music - Emotional, uplifting, and funny moments - GREAT action scenes - A good MENACING villain - Dark moments - And it already had a good message (¬_¬) But NOPE!…Disney said new generation, new me.
BigWig 25 Oh I know that for sure! But as a kid you ask yourself “how would that look like?” And then later on in life when your much older, you look back and notice that there’s actually potential for a great live action film.
"the film is about a women who chooses to go against tradition" best summary for current disney XD instead of following a tradition to make unique and good films its just cash grabs and relying on nostalgia/fans
@@animelytical8354 mulan, the women of general Yang clan family, the women in heroes of water margin, u westerner has no idea how to write strong women characters nowadays.
More accurately *Actual strong female character exists* Old Disney: yes I love this and will portray it properly and it be entertaining New Disney: oh what's this, this is sexist, there now it sucks and is no longer sexist, worth it
@@penguinmcswaggn2936 Shit, remember what they did to Pocohantas? Turned a story of an 11 year old who gets seduced by a middle aged man with plague and Ratcliff getting skinned alive by the indians for the crime of reading the Bible and lots and lots of death... ...into a story of two similar but different people's with their own goods and bads overcoming their differences with the help of some lovebirds. Walt Disney best Disney. McMouse disney can suck a Disney.
The animated Mulan showed a regular woman who trained and struggled to get stronger. This newer version was OP from the very start. Disney doesn't get it anymore. It's sad.
Yep! You don't get to see her grow. She's boring.
It’s not Disney. It depends on the director they chose😏
@@lululs4014 idk man, they did the same thing with captain marvel and rey.
@@lululs4014 no. It is 100 % disney.
The director, Niki Caro, has made numerous other films with interesting female leads.
This movie is clearly a result of Disney going "LET'S PANDER!" without knowing how to pander or even write a good female character anymore.
@Erwin Lii the thing is, mulan is powerful for the wrong reasons in the live-action take.
She is born powerful. She didn't earn her powers. She didn't work to gain a powerful chi.
In the animated movie, she earned her power and earned the respect of the fellow soldiers by hard work and dedication and using her brain.
It is much more interesting and inspiring to see someone mediocre earn their power and become a legend, than see someone born powerful just stay the same.
There's only one good thing about the music being gone: they don't have to ruin it
But Jackie Chan though.
I mean if he did the singing in this one like the original
@@halkun7191 It's Not Jackie Chan!
Richard Gadberry Jackie Chan actually sang the Chinese version
Yes, but with the music, you could at least close your eyes and enjoy it.
Same with Mushu
"Who are you?"
"Mulan."
"Mulan what?"
"Mulan Skywalker."
Basically every Disney movie nowadays...
Everything look CGI and cartoonish like the phantom menace.
I didn't suspect a sequel coming out so soon but at least there's a legacy behind the chosen one with a background story behind her life before the Jedi and her father want to protect her from the force
@@robertagren9360 mulan palpatine
@@turret2683
The witch is Kylo Ren, she says in the movie; We'll finish what we started
It's the final conclusion that Kylo Ren won't see a place for their kind until the old ways are gone
The legendary Mary Sue Number Two
Disney Producer: It would be hard to write another character with as little growth or character arc as Rey.
Disney screenwriter: Actually, it would be super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Oh, bare inconveniences are tight!
“So it turns out people didn’t really like our movie.”
“Whoops.”
“Whoopsie.”
Screen writing guy "....and we're going to be filming next to the Muslim concentration camps..."
Movie producer guy "wow wow wow wow wow"
I see you good sir, are also a fan of TH-cam clickbait
*tips hat
Mulan is now magic. " Wow, wow, wow, wow "
"Youve tried to please verybody, and youve pleased nobody'' This statement can be applied to 90% of all media now
Please everybody? More like brainwash everybody with their political agenda.
I think that problem and that "subverting expectations" nonsense really helps explain what's gone wrong in a lot of media the past few years.
Not really. Right now they try to please an audience that it is not interested in their shit. Star Trek is the best example. They try to please a crowd that never cared for star trek.
Like the prequals.
Mario Badia more like the sequel trilogy
"We want a more respectful and realistic version of Mulan"
Has assassins creed wall running and an actual green witch.
That's disrespecting assassins creed
Thing is that they are full of shit with that. They don't want to admit that the movie was the center of a woman that was refused enlistment for being a woman and so she pretended to be a man in order to join. The director obviously said "That's sexist" and went about destroying the Mulan legacy
@@aniki6575 Even disrespecting the Assassin's Creed movie.
@@Deadsea_1993 what's worse is shit's supposed to be sexist, that's the whole fucking point lmao. Imagine negating literal history
No, Realistic too the Chinese mythology of Mulan, aka, the original story before the cartoon.
Disney: we need to be more realistic so take out the dragon.
Also Disney: Hmmm let’s add a witch and people magically running up walls!
Took out the dragon to appease the Chinese and not offend them 🙄
@@reinderrider45 no the Chinese movie goers do like Mushu Eddie Murphy it is just a Privellaged vocal minority wanted a historical authentic disney film it is only because the vocal minority holds powerful diplomatic political interests.
FreelanceArt101 Well it ruined the movie and they ruin everything else thats fun about the world
My question is... would they even be offended?
They took out the siamese cat song in lady and the tramp cuz it was "offensive" but... was it?
@@reinderrider45 Just to add some info to anyone who believes making fun of dragons in China or Asia is seen as disrespectful. Its not. Not all dragons are the same. The dragon was a imperial symbol and heads up the Chinese abolished their monarchy decades ago. Tiny dragons are made fun of all the time in Chinese stories. Dragons don't have that kind of religious symbolism, its not like its a depiction of the Islamic prophet.
Did nobody realize that Mulan barely had 10 lines in her own movie?
Seriously, rewatch it. She barely talks and most of the time just sits there with a serious face.
The moral of the story: Girls can only be equal to boys if they are blessed with the power of Chi.
Movies message -You can achieve your dreams if you're born special with the power of chi
@Art of Carl hahaha oh my god how could anyone inspire to copy devloution
Old memories when mulan earned everyone's respect by discovering the secret of weights you need discipline and strength to reach the arrow. and she was the only one who literally tied them to not fall
@Art of Carl they're called Wuxia films.
@@TH-camApestaACACA she was already trained in martial arts in the poem.
It's sort of like Disney only understand the most surface level simplistic version of a strong woman.
So when they need to show a strong female character it's not about growth of character it's just about a woman with stupidly overpowered abilities
The people who push for this type of stuff are satisfied so there is no reason to improve
@Karol Jeske No, I don't think I know what they are?
Ironically, the original animation shows the power of woman character much better. In the original, Mulan manage to join the army through hard working, and through intelligence and quick thinking, manage to accomplish none of man can do. This shows woman can do equally or much better than man by hard working and realisitic ability.
But in this idiot movie, Mulan accomplish things by magic that does not exist in this world and luckily Mulan was born with it. It seems that movie is telling the world, “woman cannot surpass man except having supernatural power. Fuck off real world woman!” What a lazy writing
She's an R99
@@fin4314 no, i'm not satisfied. this sucks
Animated Mulan - hard work, responsibility, ingenuity, perseverance
New Mulan - Chi Powers
New Mulan - Chiting ...
May the Chi be with you...
Goddamn, since when Mulan becomes the Iron Fist? 😂
So it's a bad movie because they didnt make it 1:1 exactly similar to the animated film? Wow. I understand the movie is bad in terms of low budget. But I think the story was pretty fun to watch. I like the chi power. It's wasn't OP. And I like how the Phoenix was her guardian angel.
@@UltimateQball well, considering Disney marketed this movie as "realistic" and did any thing but, there are other reasons to not be impressed.
No one is asking for a 1:1 remake. Stop using this as a defence. Its a cop out
When the remake is a pale interpretation of the original, yeah, people can get annoyed. You are meant to improve or build up the story if you are making a remake, not make it worse.
"She's got the strongest chi!"
OH NO, MULAN HAS MIDICHLORIANS
Fck...At least they didn't add Mushu for the Jar Jar Binks effect...but that wasn't a creative decision, that was cuz China said "Do it the way we want it or else" and Disney complied because they love that China money.
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@@alexthelizardking Well...China has a population of almost 1.4 billion people, more than 1/7 the population of the entire planet. The Chinese government has made it so that no foreign company, even one as big as Disney, can do business in China without a locally owned surrogate company to do their business for them. On top of all of that, the Chinese government has a long list of rules that any movie, game, song, or book being published within their borders has to comply with. If Disney doesn't do either of these things, they can't sell their movie to that 1.4 billion people, which equates to a lot of potentially missed sales.
@@mq5731 That's not true, Chinese people also dislike this movie. Disney has failed to please both sides. You should check out Mulan: Rise of a Warrior (2009) like the other person has mentioned, it's free on TH-cam and it was produced within China. Disney has failed Mulan because they didn't respect the audience nor the history, they just wanted quick money.
@@stephen2577 Oh I know that people In China don't like it either. I had heard they liked a different Mulan movie, didn't know it came out in 2009 though. But just because people in China didn't like the film, doesn't mean that it wasn't Disney's target audience. It is possible the film failed for multiple reasons, but seeing as I have not watched the film(Did anyone really want to pay 30$ for something that would have been free in a few months?), I can't speak to weather or not Disney disrespected the audience.
I feel like going realistic was a mistake. One of the things that makes the Disney animated movies so compelling is their music and art.
Edit: When I say it’s realistic, I’m referring to how the movie isn’t a musical and has more realistic visuals
True that
Yeah, youre right. I still feel like Disney could've made this "realistic" portrayal work if they made better decisions with the story.
It was a good idea!
*If they didnt call it Mulan*
I mean Aladdin wasn't that bad TBH, live action.
People flying around and turning into bird? and then tell ppl Disney movie is going realistic so there is no music and singing? I have no idea what Disney is trying to do....at least Aladdin has singing, and Lion king has Lion, Mulan?
"She's good at everything but it isn't earned." sounds like Rey, disney seems to have an issue with setting up characters..... Nobody connects with people who are automatically awesome at everything!
Knoxx That's what they consider female empowerment...
N a i v a r o Yep, Women have always been amazing at everything, it's just these terrible toxic straight men holding them back... because it's not like Goku, Neo, Karate Kid, Luke Skywalker, or even the OG Mulan ever had to train hard or go through epic journeys to become super powerful...
I thought in original Mulan she sucked until she had training, that what the Make a man out of you song emphase.
I'm guessing they fk up in new movie.
Exactly. Even if you look at someone like Michael Jordan, he had to work extremely hard and work with his team to be as good as he was. He lost a lot of games and many of the series he was playing in were never clear cut. The Bulls always had something to prove. But Mulan, and Rey, are good without earning it at all. No training, no countless hours perfecting their craft. You can’t relate to that.
@@EZ-IZZY1995 I didn't know they mess up this bad in new one.
It like they were better off making a entirely different movie. Mulan wasnt a Rey in the original at all.
It was apparent in origina that the general Li Shang was the strongest of the army.
Disney: Let's get down to business......
and destroy everything you loved from your childhood.
Wrong. Your enjoyment of the animated Mulan film can't be destroyed. All this is a shitty remake.
Directed by a white person. Someone needs to tell this directer that this is isn't how you direct an asian story
Bobby Jimboy you are right go to his death destroy Star Wars with one Star Wars movie I think it’s called the Phantom Menace
Christopher Barker you’re right people who love Mulan always have that special place in their heart and seeing this remake will probably break it but you’re right about what happens who cares because I will not listen to those good reviewer‘s who love this movie because they’re probably people don’t watch the original or people who did watch the original and say that it’s cool or woke
@@Garry-y7b You're right, the prequels suck, the sequels are worse.
The whole time I was like "that's not how the chi (force) works!!"
They made chi magic, I'm so pissed. It makes me happy the Chinese audience absolutely hates this movie as well
My grandmother and I both went "Wip out your chi chi!", me knowing full well what it is
“Do we really want to spoil this?”
“I mean, it’s a two thousand year old story...”
😂
What is there to spoil? 😂
@@Lauren_210 woosh
@@Lauren_210 well that they took out/changed all the good parts is kind of a spoiler XD
And they treated it like that robin hood antifa film that every one forgot.
"You want to please everybody but end up pleasing nobody."
So it's Star Wars 7-9 then? Along with Bayformers.
I agree completely... however.. can we all agree to give Bay the FIRST Transformers movie? Maybe that's just me though lol
Star Wars 7-9 ended up pleasing most people-- turns out youtube and reddit don't represent the majority of the audience. They also received, on average, good reviews and tons of profit. If they didn't please you, though, that's perfectly fine.
Woozma stop lying, we know critics have been jokes for years now. Their reviews and those of their publications mean nothing
@@Woozma A lot of that is also true of 1-3 and the reality is those have a very mixed legacy among fans as well. Also "pleasing most people" can't be measured by box office results.
@@robm6645 You're right, that's why we have rotten tomatoes' audience score. I'm not gonna argue any further than saying the following: you cannot tell me with a straight face that ANY of the star wars films "pleased nobody." That's the statement of someone who thinks that their demographic is the only one that exists, and all of the moviegoers outside of this website are irrelevant.
Moral of the story:
You’re only special, if you’re special.
Or
The only women who matter, are the ones with fighting abilities (physically compete with men)
The only people* that matter, are the ones with fighting abilities and it’s been that way for all of history lol
The real question is: would you really want a woman who couldn't fight?
just another black man bro that’s messed up
@@graces3020 I'm not saying that all women don't matter! I'm saying it would be nice if we all had a girl like Mulan that could defend herself.
just another black man I mean nowadays a lot of women are taking self defense classes in case god forbid something horrible did happen. But dude, watch what you say cause your comment didn’t say, “it would be nice if a lot of women learned how to fight.” Ur comment literally said that nobody would want a women who couldn’t fight.
"This movie is trying to impress the American Audience, and the Chinese Audience"
Well they failed to impress both.
And failed to impress they're wallet to
@@NoName-st2jl good point
Wasn't the original more liked by the Chinese audience, by a huge margin?
@@christiandauz3742 From what I've heard, it's the opposite. From what I've heard they HATED the story, especially the dragon.
@@RedSharkey27
Really, they prefer this shit remake over the original animation?
The 90s animation and the 2009 Live-Action are far better that the 2020 remake!!!
I expected garbage and we got it.
Pretty much
Joker Productions it’s too serious the original still holds up it was funny it’s sometimes hard serious moments but it was funny
I tried the other live remakes and honestly I couldn't get through the movie at all it was awful
Love your channel!
COME ON Disney wasted Donnie Yen in this movie even though its going to be garbage
Other girl born in the village: "Welp I guess I have no CHI....better be a concubine" :/
oof
Yessss I love concubines I wish had concubines😞
@@lemorelgambino9882 simp
@@nutmaster9541 what are you talking about, having concubines would make him the opposite of a simp.
Remember, women can only reach greatness if they are born with it.
Because only men can reach it by themselves.
Moral of live action Mulan
“Mulan is the only Disney princess with a 5-digit kill count.” Nice one Alex. 👍🏻
Even though she's technically not a princess
@@Greenapple30 yeah she definitely not a princess
@@romatic My favorite Disney Princess is Jim Hawkins.
The Legion every main female disney character is considered a Disney princess
@@romatic My favorite Disney Princesses are Honey Lemon and Gogo Tomago. ;)
“Disney is no longer just creating their own cardboard characters. They are now converting our old, incredible characters into cardboard.” -Mauler
A link to the video where he said that?
Disney has gone too far.
When Superman said "I live in a world of cardboard" I don't think he meant this.
Disney also has been turning their old characters into cardboards.
@@liamwarner5749 but it's becoming this way nevertheless.
Bro no music, no mushu, no cricket none of the ghost ancestors the whole thing is not even mulan
I'm praying they don't bother remaking Hercules. They would fuck up not adding Zero to Hero
@@nealmcbealthenavysealicall794 they probably will make the female the hero at the end
@@Jo-el768 Meg?!?!?!?! Shut up Meg
@@nealmcbealthenavysealicall794 lol knowing disney these days, it wouldn't surprise me 😅😅
It's Mulan, Chinese Mulan. It'll be completely boring to most Americans like myself.
This movie literally goes against the moral of the story-
How I didnt see it and I'm curious
@@Don11037 basically the original shows that with enough determination and effort a woman can be just great a warrior as a man. In this movie, she seems to be special from the get go and is given "powers" by the witch which completely ruins the message of the beloved animated film.
@@FXD609 oh wow that's some shit Disney is so soulless didnt even think about that they were probably like we should make this woman powerful without even thinking about it
@@FXD609 I would add that the moral is also falial piety (loyalty to the family/father) when they introduced chi and lowered the stakes, it also took away a huge portion of Mulan's motivation. Mulan didn't set out to be a badass warrior or prove herself against men, that was just an awesome byproduct of her trying to survive and maintain honor. She genuinely cared about her country, her family, and her brothers in arms and that drover her to stay, to train, and to fight.
@@Don11037 Even worse than that is the fact that the movie contradicts *its own* message. Xian Lang (the witch) at one point tells Mulan that her chi is being held back because she is lying to herself by dressing up as a man. However, Mulan is dressing up as a man not because she *wants* to dress up in men's clothes to express her chi, but because she *has* to dress up as a man in order to get into the army. She will literally be killed if she joins as a woman.
Additionally, Xian Lang throws a knife at Mulan's chest to kill her, but she is saved because she is still wearing her chest brace, something that she was ONLY wearing to conceal her gender. If she hadn't been wearing this and pretending to be a man, she would have died. This scene goes against the lesson that we were JUST given.
Disney should stop making these live action remakes, it's just embarassing at this point.
People keep paying money to see em 🤷♂️
Disney is the cinema version of Madden lol
They wont, why they would stop making money
Disney won't listen to that. Like, there's already a live-action The Little Mermaid coming up and it will be bad.
ComradCommodore no madden if it have a good game 11 to 12 Disney on the other hand only Alice in the wonderland is probably a pass the rest of their life action remakes suck
Sonic 2 Alice in Wonderland wasn't good to begin with. It sucked and it didn't age well, 10 years later.
How did Mulan get there so fast? She 'Chi' ted.... :)
That joke was terrible and you should feel ashamed- ... But proud cuz it is well played-
Ahahahaha fuck you, take my like.
Because she used the aspect of the 'chi' tah
Ahahahahahaha 👏👏👏
You were probably one of the people that said the matrix was too exaggerated.
Disney makes another un-relatable, overpowered, Mary-Sue, invincible, totally un-likable character?!
WHAT A TWIST!
Wait I thought this was based off the ballad of Mulan where Mulan was a pure badass
Also has a bunch of chinese actors and actresses that I’ve seen in other Chinese films that do badass stuff.
Oh wait this mainly an American comment section full of us westerners who wanted a disney movie but also get mad when culture is appropriated
@@camberedyakuza No we just want good cultural appropriation. Would you want to appropriate French baking or North Korean "Re-education camps"? One seems much better to appropriate than the other.
@@camberedyakuza The 2009 version of Mulan started off as a badass and STILL HAS STRUGGLES AND CONFLICT. Not to mention a personality.
camberedyakuza wtf are you even talking about? You’re probably down for the little mermaid being black instead of a ginger. Disney is fucking full of people who I’m assuming didn’t even watch the animations
em1ownerify look up the ballad of Mulan.
This is probably second accurate to the accounts of the legend of Hua Mulan.
You’re proving that you know nothing about the actual legend that even the ‘98 original was loosely based on.
Yes disney wants profits but what they were doing was actually good for this movie and all of western civilization does not understand it.
They are truly depicting chinese culure and a legend pretty well.
But since most of us know only the 98 movie, we want a talking dragon and some singing classics.
Disney: "Hey look.. all Asian cast . Aren't we so respectful of Asian culture. Diversity! Only 30 disney bucks."
Also Disney: Add a witch
And add magical chi making mulan good at combat from the onset, I mean who needs to show training montages nowadays. Just give your protagonist a gimmick to save the extra minutes of movie time.
Also the argument of not putting Mushu in the movie to respect Chinese culture falls flat. Witches did not exist in the Chinese culture as you point out. So her "existence" in the movie is as disrespectful as Mushu's would have supposedly been. Even the symbolic of the Phoenix as they intend to in this movie is pure bs from a Chinese culture perspective.
@@Bllll957 Witches are a part of every culture they just have different names Ancient China had witches in fact Witch Craft is pretty popular in modern China to it's mostly fortune telling and palm reading But every culture has witches
@Marie Chambe actually “witch craft” , and magic does exist in Chinese culture and every culture. They show Asian sorcerers in all types of movies. There were practitioners of the dark arts referred to as a Wu and Gu. The majority of Chinese “ mysticism” can be categorized as “witchcraft” or “magic” basically. They didn’t use Mushu because they thought it was “politically incorrect”
@@Bllll957 as a chinese, remove mushu for respect culture is the ultimate bs.
Mulan 2020 is literally "Dishonor To Your Cow" the movie.
No, not literally. But figuratively, it is. lol
@@manuelpatino7863 nope literally too haha
oMg ItZ a 30 BuKz. WhAt A BiG PrIcE OMG
@@EricNeuls What is is about "literally" that you people can't understand? C'mon, you guys. It isn't that hard XD XD
@@MrDead00 Go bark that crap on a thread where it actually makes sense XD
The actress is the most emotionless character I ever seen in Disney history.
More emotionless than Brie Larson?
@@emeraldnoir7099 Xi the pooh
Even more than Emma's Belle???
She is a chinese actress famous on that side for being a terrible actress. Honestly it looks like disney didn't care about quality at all as long as they could claim to "respect" culture.
Is she Kirsten Stewart-levels of emotionless?
I remember feeling very empowered as a small girl after watching Mulan but this... it doesn't make me feel strong it makes me feel insecure and i'm in my 20's.
When i was small my self esteem was very low because i wasn't born as privileged as my classmates, i wasn't from wealthy family, i wasn't pretty, i wasn't really talented etc etc. but stuff like Mulan helped me realize i can just *become* who i want to be what resulted with me learning art and languages all by myself in very young age.
Now Mulan remakes came out and it did COMPLETE OPPOSITE of what original did - it tells girls you have to be born the certain way or practice since being a fetus to be worth anything, again, they did the exact same with other remakes.
It's not female empowerment, female empowerment is showing characters that are human, flawed but still capable of overcoming obstacles because this is something women and girls can relate to.
2020's Mulan is some goddamn personalityless one man army on steroids but always with great hair, good luck relating to that.
Lol even 80's action heroes to have more personality than many of the recent films that try to make strong female charaters as a lot of them tend to forget the character part and focus on the strong but not in any way present that strength in any intresting way. The only one that hit the nail in my opinion is DC with wonder woman as she has Character.
If studios want to make characters strong make that strengthhas to be interesting we watch Comando not because Arnold is a dude but because he is a Dad rescuing his child if they want a hero to be superstrong just atleast make them have humanity.
20s* Apostrophes aren't used to make plurals.
@@forickgrimaldus8301 '80s
@@englishatheart thanks but not really affects point.
I'm calling it, next movie is gonna be live-action "Hercules", with no supernatural elements, except for the witch character that wasn't in the original.
Meg's gonna be the one to save Hercules at the end of the movie, Phil's gonna be played by Donnie Yen, and there won't be a single dead person in the Underworld.
The product placement jokes are still in there, but "updated for a modern audience".
We’re gonna have a female Hercules
@@mikasamo1061 We shall call her..... HER-cules!
I heard that the next live action reboot is a Goofy Movie
The Rock made a really good Hercules. I expected that movie to suck and I actually quite enjoyed it.
No no you cant have a strong white straight male protagonist these days remember? its gonna be HerculeSA! the female demi-god of color ... mark my words :)
"Disney makes a live action Mulan"
Public: *"Dishonor! Dishonor On Your Whole Family!"*
*Dishonor on your cow!*
Dishonor on your mouse
Dishonor on your chi
Dishonor on you rice
I love this comment thread, it made me laugh.
1:41
1. It was the Huns, not the Mongols
2. The Rourans were actually some pretty scary people, and are the actual original people Mulan fought. Of course, Disney butchered them.
To this day people still confuse Genghis Khan with Attila the Hun. Goes to show how lacking our world history education is.
@@as7river What? Surely a mere 600 years or so difference between them doesn't make that much difference! That's only 2 and ~half Americas! (Age of the USA) :P
@@as7river Our world history books are about half as thick as the American history one. Says a lot about how important world history is to us Americans.
@@KhanMann66 very true and we just skip the bad stuff we did in US history true
huns vs Mongols, is like apples vs oranges, very similar and from a distance you could confuse them but up close there are some noticable differences lol
Final movie grade: A dishonor to your cow / 10
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@@tomfoolery7797 accurate
Original Mulan animated film:
A film about a woman proving herself with her own prowess and strength, showing her worth in her own power.
Stupid remake:
Nah, she's just magic, that's why she's so great. Wahmen power!
smh
sophon block being skilled at something through hard work is not the same as being skilled because of magic dude
sophon block but you’ said in your original comment that the movie was trying to be more historically accurate which is hardly the case since there is no such thing as magical chi. Skill and accomplishments are in thanks only to a person’s hard work and determination and I’m not being a crybaby I’m simply voicing my opinion no need to attack someone just because you’re triggered by the fact that they disagree with you.
sophon block it’s kind of a bad artistic choice for the story her accomplishments would be more inspiring for viewers if there was no natural talent at play as most people won’t have that raw natural talent at things. I feel in my opinion that overcoming the odds despite your flaws and weaknesses is much more compelling but I understand your original comment now Joe made it seem that chi was something magical rather than just another word for talent.
@@sophonblock76 only China cares about the original story while the rest of the world on the other hand doesn't give a shitt
@@sophonblock76 yeah cause flying super hero Mulan is so realistic
Mulan is basically Rey, she didn't learn anything, she magically knows it all without training, Disney never learns from their mistakes i see.
Tbf, the movie did start off by saying she was trained by her father.
@@MrAllmightyCornholioz Still, the whole purpose of the animated movie was the jorney, just like in almost everything Mulan, but this one had none, she was already trained, with no learning it kinda defeats the purpose.
@@MrAllmightyCornholioz When writing a story the character needs a form of development to appeal to readers/watchers. Sure she had training but there should have still been more possible development in her skills.
It would have been interesting to see what would have been different if they kept her clumsy personality trait. 🤔
That arrow kicking its hands down bulshit. Not even a Fanfic is close to the imposibility of that stunt.
You won't know it's even worse?
They both have little to no personality to the point where you can't relate to them.
“I’m Rey”
“Rey who?”
“Rey Fa Mulan ”
Best comment
"Rey Fa Mu...."
Ahh.. who the eff cares!!!
No you mean 话木懒。
@@funny.gon-12 Nah 白痴
For me the plot more of CM than SW.
Sad fact :This movie was filmed in xinjiang,china.. that was right next to the Ugyhur Muslims concentration camps!!!and in the end of the movie credit they literally thanked the Chinese government and the cccp like WTF..
yeah and the main atress post her support to the honk kong police.....
Anyone involved with this movie should be ashamed.
Some brave Chinese netizens mapped out their filming locations and found out the crew must have drove passed multiple camps, what a shame
@@Cynner1111 the honor goes to them!
FINALLY. SOMEONE SAID THIS!
I didn’t even know they were doing a sequel to “The Great Wall”.
Yo The great wall was at least entertaining, it's beautifully over the top, while Mulan just fell short on everything sadly.
Sorry I cut Matt Damons pony tail, he couldn't make it.
"China*
Chinese bureaucracy killing film industry
In China you don't appeal to audience almost not all. You appeal to burecruats only.
Ikr😂
So even Disney plus has micro transactions now?
I hardly ever go to the theater because I find 12 euros to expensive, no way in hell I'll pay 30 to watch this from home.
if 30 buck payment counts as micro, yes
@@alpha_berchermuesli5975 well... Madden has 90 dollar micro transactions. So as much as it sucks, yes 30 can be considered a microtransaction
Cant wait for lootboxes and get duplicated toy story 3
That’s why we pirate mate
It's a terrible cost if you're alone, but it's fair if you would be taking the family. The movie still needs to be good though.
Honestly, I kinda hate what they did to the father's character? It seems like everyone on the internet just lets it slide because there are bigger things to chew on, but for me, a *huge* part of the original animation was that father character, and how he is always supportive of Mulan and appreciates her for her. I think Mulan 1998 is very smart of showing it: father's fondness is never spelled out until that final scene that makes me cry every time it is even referenced, but his smile says everything in scenes he has no words, and the two times he goes off at Mulan that is obviously hurting him no less than Mulan herself.
Meanwhile, the movie father explicitly says he failed to raise Mulan the right way, and in the final scene he admits that to Mulan and says that only now that she majorly succeeded in the army he sees how awesome she actually is. It's something that 1998 Mulan would never ever do. I have to assume it's more of a personal thing for me than it is a bad thing for everyone, but for me, this unsupportiveness of the father stings on the same level as making Mulan a Mary Sue, so, basically destroys the whole story.
Oh so true
That really bothered me too
I feel like Mulan's father in the original showed in many ways his fondness over Mulan even before the final scene such as that flower scene where he tells Mulan about how a flower hasn't bloomed yet but someday it will indicating that she too will bloom someday. Then the whole entire thing of him going to war happens directly after that.
@@andreasmeelie1889 Yes, that! Like how he sees Mulan returning from the matchmaker all sad and looking away, and then follows her into the garden right after that. Or how he delivers that "Mulan, you dishonor me" line, but not in a reprimanding way, not looking her in the eye. Just, whichever scene he is in, whatever he does and whatever new stuff we learn about his character, we also have the constant reaffirmation that, yes, he is that and also the one who cares deeply about Mulan.
They gave him the full Luke skywalker treatment
No Mushu
No Lucky Cricket
No "Make a Man, Out of You"
No Shang
No Comedy
No Life
No Point
No BUY!
Seriously wait for the re-release of Mulan Animated and skip this trash.
Then what was the point of all this?!
No mushu no cricket no singing no comedy take all my money 😍
Why wait for a re-release? Just pirate the movie man. Hundreds of torrents available out there. You want to fork out more money for a movie that's already been out there for years?
I’d rather watch the direct to video sequel
Pirate it
Disney: "We got rid of Mushu because we wanted a more realistic take."
Everyone: *looks over at Chinese Star Wars poster* "RIIIIIIIGGGGGGHHHHHHTTTTTT"
Kirin Fellwinter who would you get to voice the dragon? I doubt they would get Eddie again. Kevin Hart would be annoying as the Dragon.
@@captcrais101 if they couldn't get Murphy back, then the second best option is Mushu's voice actor in the Kingdom Hearts games.
Also Disney portrays unrealistic women empowerment including a witch and prince of persia moves
It's not racism, it's because Chinese test audiences flat out loathed Mushu's character in the original. And Murphy didn't voice Mushu in the Chinese version of the film anyway, Taiwanese Comedian Jacky Wu did.
Yep Kirin exactly what I said.
"mulan is a disney princess with a 5 digit kill count"
Oh hell yeah, I'm stealing this
Not really a princess tho
oMg ItZ a 30 BuKz. WhAt A BiG PrIcE OMG
@@gjergji15 She IS a Disney Princess, tho. That's all what op said.
Funny, I thought Milla Jovovich's Alice from the Resident Evil movies had the biggest kill numbers.
Winged Hussar yar har har! :)
As soon as they said Mulan was a Mary-Sue, I was like, "Oh no. What the hell did you _do,_ Disney??" O__o;;;
The Rise of skywalker: first time?
Mushu: “ DISHONOR! DISHONOR ON YO WHOLE FAMILY! “
DISHONOR ON YOU! DISHONOR ON YOUR COW!
Loved Eddie Murphy as mushu
DISHONOR! DISHONOR ON YOU!DISHONOR ON YOUR FAMILY! DISHONOR ON YOUR COW!
I hadn't watched since I was a kid, and I just remembered this line while reading it how funny that line to me was back then. Thank you. LoL
Cow!
The original animated movie was more realistic for a strong female lead, even if it had a talking dragon and cricket. 🐉🦗
The live action movies can't capture the charm that the animated movies have. The live action characters are so bland and emotionless.
Even if there wasn't this virus, it would have been better if it was released in theaters.
I don't think they were going for charming. More like, I'm a female hear me roar.
I was legit suprised there want a Robin Williams will Smith remix, even if it was in the credits. Williams is the heart of the film at so many points.
Yeah, but what should Disney do? Come up with new innovative Stories that work in live action? Don't be ridiculous.
@Justin B Wait until Little Mermaid comes out, geez....I can't even imagine how they will slaughter that one.
I haven’t actually watched this new Mulan movie. But in every trailer, picture, promotion and video I’ve seen, mulan looks lifeless, she had no shred of emotion and always has a blank expressionless face. Like not even half a smile. How are we supposed to empathize with that????
You don't.
30$ more on top on the regular subscription payment?! BRUH thats a huge ripoff!!!
Don't worry there are a bunch of idiots out there who are defending this practice by assuming that everyone whose watching this is watching this in a group and not by themselves and also has a large home theater set up that can supposedly match the cinema experience.
so how will they make the money back? Just give it out for free because of this pandemic?
@@TheEquilibrum007 I dont care and its not my problem, But its not worth 30$. Its not even worth 30$ to watch it in the movies. Hell, a blu-ray of this movie is not worth 30$. Fuck that.
TheEquilibrum007 they would get a cut of the regular subscription revenue. Like every other streaming service movie or show ever.
@@TheEquilibrum007 Netflix has their own movies free if you are subscribed to the service, so that argument is not valid at all.
OJ: Disney is running out of ideas
Me: Disney HAS run out of ideas
It's running out of live action rehash ideas
They could've atleast stick to the original movie in terms of comedy and feel despite being live action
Disney just don't know what most viewers want so out of touch (Ricky gervais was right) ... So they just make movies that appeal to the feminists /sjw community.
And I thought Disney said they are not going to force any sjw politics in their movies anymore? They said this recently
It's not that they are "running out of ideas". Disney is the largest entertainment company on earth. There are probably plenty of pitches and plenty of creative people. The problem is that the shareholders and Executives would prefer to cash in on existing IP.
@@rafterman5072 No dude, they're running out of ideas.
@@animelytical8354 it's not a rehash.
I can’t believe they made Mulan ultra talented from childhood. The training was the most inspiring part, showing that anyone could be a warrior (or whatever else) with enough effort, training, and ingenuity. Making her just a badass from birth ruins that.
What's up with current media not respecting the fact that hard work is necessary to achieve your goals
@@Don11037 Because women are already perfect you misogynistic pig. Obviously! No but seriously that is what modern media has degraded to.
@@Don11037 young girls dont like this narrative, western world has barely any sexism against women achieving their goals or at least thats what we tell them
so they move on to "bigger" "dreams"...
i see this on my nieces they would love this shit...
The Witch basically stated that she joined the invading horde because it is here only path to attain power....... And yet, she literally is the most overpowered character besides arguably Mulan in the entire movie.....
Probably, maybe that's why she just decided to off herself near the end of the movie cause she realized what a dumpster fire of a movie she's in
Here's a take from an Asian from South East Asia: I've grown up watching evening Chinese historical dramas. It's common here. This movie felt like that. Generic.
Chinese historic drama is so devoid of soul and so stereotypical it should be an example of how not to make movies
Have you ever seen Chinese costume dramas, you just say that Chinese costume dramas are boring? Even in China, there are many categories of costume dramas. There are costume dramas on love that you want to see, including martial arts dramas, fairy tales, official historical dramas, palace fighting dramas, time travel dramas, and many of them are very good to see, because we have many kinds of dramas, many of which are adapted from novels, and because we have complete historical materials and cultural relics, many of our historical dramas have a very high degree of restoration, exquisite production and very good music. Unlike your foreign countries, you always use stereotypes about China to make things related to our culture. It's really frustrating.
I think you'd better go to see a Chinese historical play. It's talking. Do you want me to recommend it to you?
@Lassi Kinnunen are you a $0.25 worker
@@xiaoxiaolee1680 sure, recommend me one
I was really looking forward to seeing Mulan even though there’re no Mushu and Crickee but they missed tons of things. For the people who are saying it’s inspired by the original ballad blah blah,, but they made a remake, they have to keep the impactful scenes with the original music in the movie.
1. No Shang
2. No grandma
3. No “Decision scene”
4. No dialogue between characters
5. No friendship & strong bond
6. No emotion
7. No impactful scenes
8. No character development
9. No struggle ( you just have to born with a magical superpower then you will achieve anything - which is so unrealistic from realistic movie they are saying)
10. No songs at all- I was ok with it’s not musical but there have to be songs in a movie. Even non-disney movies have songs!
11. Unconnected scenes
12. The most importantly they missed the main message of Mulan.
Actually the most of the actors are capable of doing anything specially the funny soldiers and mulan’s love interest but they had barely lines. Overall I’m really dissapointed.
They added witch, what eh drama 😂
These live action remakes never understand the moral of the origional
So they basically took Mulan and made her the chinese version of Rey from Disney Star Wars.
Oh no.
OH Yeah
I just realized that they filmed many of the outdoor parts of the film in Xinjiang, near a couple of the "reeducation camps" there. They even thanked several government agencies that are in charge of the camps near their filming site, lol. Well, I think that about summed up the film.
I did a research on that, that's actually not true. Tis a fake news spread against CCP, but a fake news none the less.
@@LibeliumDragonfly You are saying a straight up lie. The op is correct, the details are stated on the movies ending credits. Are you part of the CCP to say such a bold lie?
I see you are trying really hard to spread this huh? Seen this twice now.
@@MissingGingerSnap dude you don’t have to be in the part of ccp to know it’s a rumor...
"Let's get down to business!
To defeat...the Morons!"
Just doesn't have the same ring to it.
I'll stick to my Ghost for some Mongols defeating business
@@adnvdn Water Stance heavy attack followed with Heavenly Strike is so good.
Forget fake Mulan, we need a Ghost film. Not from Disney though.
@@pspublic13 No we just need a second game.
It was the Huns as well in the original, not the Mongols. Like a 1000 year difference in time.
"MORE MONGOL DOGS!"
- Lord Shitmura 2020
The original Mulan was female empowerment done right. I never, ever had a problem with that movie or the way it portrayed things, because it didn't feel forced and in your face. It wasn't about Mulan being a rebel and going against tradition because it's stupid or whatever, but rather because it was something she felt she had to do. Ironically, even though she pretended to be a male in the animated film, she didn't have to throw away her femininity in the process. Which is so rare nowadays, when every strong female character has to act like a butch lesbian.
That's something feminists today tend to forget. Back when I was a child, there was a crap ton of female empowerment, as well as implied homosexuality of characters. It just wasn't crammed in your face.
That's what I like about OG Mulan.
Even when she managed to match Shang in hand to hand combat, she also know that she's no match again Khan.
Mulan didn't even use brute force to kill him, it was her wits.
That's also something that modern feminist don't get.
This movie is american, so mulan being the hero, reprensents america, an american born in china, saving the world, cuz how else are they gonna save themsleves.
Disney: we will remove all of the magic and spirit elements that were in the animated
Also Disney: We will make chi a big thing here, make Mulan the magical chosen one and most importantly add a witch that can do magic. No we are not being hypocritical why do you ask ?
They made Mulan into Ray basically?
atleast rey trained abit? hahahahahhaa jesus this chosen trend really sucks.
Well they did bend the knee to China, who knows how much Disney changed the movie to appease the CCP.
They made the made the movie into a wuxia, that is Chinese fantasy.
Magic in this genre is strictly body related, makes them super strong and able to "cast" spells that usually in the form of energy with elemental effects.
@@protendi Yeah, lol! Haha, now it all makes sense! XD
They turned a beloved strong female character who earned her stripes where hard work and sacrifice make an epic heroes journey.
Into a mary sue.
Disney deserved their losses.
Gotta love how emphatically Alex said he was a fan of the original Mulan
Man of culture.
“Mulan is the only Disney princess with a 5-digit kill count.”
Disney version is not the original version
Wow I never thought Alex and I would have something in common as I too think the original Disney Mulan is their best animation film and it is my favorite. Very disappointing to hear the live-action remake is hollow and terrible.
@@johnlawful2272 You don't say!
Gotta love how cringy this comment is
They should have put on it," Made in America, for China."
Not all of it was done in america
@@nerd_gamer dyslexia is bad, m'kayy?
it was shot in New Zealand
@@nerd_gamer this film was missing Eddie Murphy and we all knew it.
@@dakotajensen181 lol
This movie is actually insulting to the first one.
The first Mulan movie I felt had so many powerful messages like perseverance is something you choose to have, not something you are born with. And there's more than one kind of strength, if you can't beat an enemy through straight up slugging hands, then beat him with your mind. And rely on people who rely on you. By living a life where you never give up and you protect those you love, you bring honor to everyone around you.
The new Mulan movie: Lmao just run on walls and stab everyone noob, why try at anything when you're already perfect kek.
Her captain goes from “I will execute you like right now” to 15 seconds later “ ok mulan u cool. U lead us to battle”
Our savior, our hero, our queen.
Oh god the chi thing....why incorporate chi into this movie? It just doesn't work...And there's a movie that does that WAAY better: Kung Fu Panda 3. Because there Po GREW and EARNED that kind of higher power and you still feel that connection to him as a character. Here I just felt alienated from Mulan like "oh she has superpowers now? huh. Well there goes any and all tension and growth and eugh."
It takes away from the endearment that Mulan had in the classic film. Her reasons and struggles were for the life of her father. She knew she was potentially signing a death wish, but struggled anyway out of pure love and compassion and used her mind and wit to overcome her odds and challenges. That's what made her such a strong and lovable character.
Now she's just OP as hell with magic....mmmk Disney lol.
@@cold_Lightning9 she's a Mary Sue now. I loved the old Mulan this one I knew was gonna be bad the second a ad came out about it
@@cold_Lightning9 exactly. Couldn't have said it better myself. It also takes away what Disney loved about telling stories-the story of perseverance and skill getting you through the shit. It's why Cinderella is his favorite story. He felt like he related to her in a lot of ways. And by making Mulan super OP here it just feels false and you question more things like "oh okay the witch had to sacrifice herself for mulan? why couldn't Mulan dodge it with chi?" ugh
Right when I heard about that, I was like, "Ohhh noooo, it's Anakin with his high midichlorian count again."
the chinese loved kungfu panda, they questioned why they weren't able to come up with that. they wouldve made Po perfect, which would've made him hollow.
This was more enjoyable than the actual movie. Thanks for the free movie guys.
Lol I hear that. Now days, I don't go see new movies because they look like dumpster fires before they release. So I just watch movie reviewers (Joe, Red Letter Media, etc.) tear them apart. haha
Arie Robbins Same here, unless I know it’s gonna be good.
Arie Robbins do you watch Jeremy johns?
They're now boycotting the Mulan movie💁 & heard China bots are sent to give good reviews on the movie🤦 They can't just admit they made a garbage fire movie & accept it🤷
It really was 🤣
Grating, persistent Hollywood message: Women don't have to earn greatness. They're already great. It's all a matter of allowing themselves to shine. :::YAWN!!:::
It isn't a bad idea to come from for a story, but you have to understand how to write it. And that is the problem, it isn't that the character is powerful it is they don't have understanding on how to write an already powerful character.
@@darththeo Wrong, there is nothing relatable about a character that never has to work for a goal. To write an already powerful character you have to show their struggle on achieving that power and greatness, to jump head long into a story where there is no mortal danger because the character is the strongest or no moral conflicts because she is purity incarnate doesn't makes her superhuman and doesn't allow the audience to connect with the character. When all your dreams just magically come true because you are a women than yea you could write a story about that.
@Alexander Schmidt You're supposed to relate to a protagonist on some level, and they are supposed to somehow grow or change as a person, which is achieved by struggle and self-examination. That's basic storytelling. You can choose not to follow it if you like, but it will ultimately leave you with poorly-written garbage like Mulan 2020...
@@StickyFinguz I am sorry, I don't think you understood me. Let me try again.
There is nothing wrong with a powerful character being powerful at the start, you have to know how to write the character's story. They still need a journey.
Yes, characters need goals ... that was my point. Even powerful characters need a goal. The problem isn't the character already has greatness, it is they have greatness with no goal.
@@easolinas1233 And you don't need to relate personally to the story, it doesn't need to be an every man. I can't relate much to Superman or One Punch man, but I can see their stories and goals.
And there are people who love those characters.
Disney Employee: "So, how many superpowers should our female leads have?"
Disney: "Yes."
Disney Employee: "How many powers? Uh, all of them. Make her like Toph(the Earthbending little blind girl from Avatar), but bad, and also, make her have midocholrians like the main female protagonist from the latest Star Wars movies, and make her the most awesomest awesome superpowered(fictional) woman who ever lived!" Disney: "And also, take out everything that made the original 1998 Mulan great, take out the songs, Mushu, add in stupid stuff like a witch, and our complete and utter lack of understanding of what Chi ACTUALLY is!!! And butcher what makes Mulan great as a heroine, and completely anger fans of the animated version, and bore them beyond all belief, thus making the absolute WORST possible remake of a beloved movie ever witnessed by mankind!(Evil Laughter)".
Old: Women in the army??? PFFFT. They lack strength (uses intelligence instead).
New: We and the enemy are fine with women soldiers. Also use chosen one Chi to overcome strength defect.
They really took away all the charm and colorful cast of characters, the thing that people loved about the original and gave us some boring, generic ass muppets
And the only reason it'll make money is cause nostalgia which will always sell no matter what
Tall order to expect any creativity from communists.
You mean the Disney version
Isn't that what the Chinese government want? Mindless puppet's?
"Mulan is a disney princess with a 5 digit kill count" is one of the most metal realizations I've ever had
Atlantis: That's cute.
@@ShadowWolfRising lol oh shyt.. Lets not let them make a live action of Atlantis 😥
@@acej08
Don't worry. They won't do that for failed projects.
@@remliqa hmm your right but.. Whats funny those are the movies they can't messed up.. Ao whatever mistakes they made in the past film it might get fixed by they mistakes lol
@@acej08
Yeah, I kinda wished that these diamond in the rough one that a re getting remakes instead of the obvious big hits.
Sadly there is probably another reason why they didn't include Eddie Murphy's character... Ask John Boyega
Didnt even think of that, probably true. Great point mate.
@@megantvenstrup7687 The Chinese don't like to include black characters/actors in their films. When overseas films are released there, black characters are downplayed especially in advertising and their presence is usually reduced as much as possible.
Even if it would be a voice acting role?
@@TheOriginal_Unaleska haha might be even worse. "They can be in the movie but the less we see them the better". Good catch.
OMG good point! I didn’t think of that!
This movie was a Dishonor to the whole damn Mulan fan base family.
and of course, dishonor to the cow
Dishonor and disrespectful to all chinese
Dishonor on your director!
Dishonor on your writers!
And dishonor on your cash-cow!
"At some point they have to stop!"
It stops when the money stops.
So...pretty much never. (Brand is a powerful thing.)
I read somewhere that they removed a lot of the jokes/musical songs/characters because the original mulan movie was received negatively by China, calling it stereotypical and inaccurate. Which sucks tbh. The original was fun :o
Not to mention this movie was most likely made with the blessing of the tyrannical Chinese government. I just have that feeling.
Griffin Gamer The Mulan actress came out against the Hong Kong protests
@@fabiangonzalez-cortes8894 Really? Ok. But still, it just gives me that eerie feeling. Like Rush Hour was also very Chinese inspired, but I know that's because Jackie Chan is Chinese. This actress isnt that known to me.
Griffin Gamer that’s so stereotypical of Americans, if there is anything China-related, the Chinese government must be involved, geez.
I think it all comes down to revenue. Having a movie shown in China would definitely bring in major profit.
So my takeaways:
A woman can only be strong if they're already strong or just gifted
The ideas of family ancestry is unrealistic but let's throw in magic
Disney is openly ignoring human rights violations for profit
your right.
Pretty much
I wanna know who looked over Disney's properties, saw frickin' Mulan and said: "Oh yeah, we can do Star Wars with this..."
I LOL'ed to this comment.
Hell, they can't even do Star Wars itself!
“Oh no, now there are two of them!!”
SHE FLIES NOW! SHE FLIES NOW!? SHE FLIES NOW!
Ghostrevivalist “this is getting out of hand!”
The audience review score is 57 now. The very first review I read is this one:
"Mulan is really great, her action scene is so handsome!"
This is absolutely written by a chinese person, using a translate program....the word handsome is a mistranslation of the word piao liang, which can also mean beautiful or even something like awesome.
The 50 cent army has clearly been deployed.
"The 50 cent army has clearly been deployed."
Perhaps the "Tencent" (Holdings) contingent...lol
um just to point out this film has already been trashed so much on chinese sites..so don't push everything to us
lol what? Its mainly Chinese people that are trashing on this movie because of the comments the main actress has made in the past. You’re an idiot
Not piao liang but shuai le帅了, can refer to things being cool or just basically handsome. That review's funny tho
@@ArtsyAllAround Nah, we just hate how bad a movie it is.
Chi? So I can expect Mulan to whip out a Kamehameha in a fight scene?
Maybe a Masenko but not Kamehameha.
Oh no im remembering a movie idk which one my fade memory or something won't let me remember it but it was live action and use kamehameha.
@Nik3 what movie?
I have the chi, and you gotta deal with it!
@@jgon12 I hope no one tells u. That movie should never be mentioned....ever
"Dishonor on your cashcow" -Channel Awesome & "If you try to please everyone, you end up pleasing no one." -Mauler, these two quotes perfectly sum up the new Mulan movie.
So what I'm getting from this review is:
Kingdom Hearts 2 Mulan was way better than this film? XD
Awkward that Japan had more respect for the story then Disney itself.
It seriously sounds like what they did with Star Wars, namely Rey.
A character who already has all the ability, gains the power and is essentially unstoppable because of her "Chi"/"Force".
Who was the writer for this project? Their past work might shed some light on why they chose to go this route.
Oh my goodness, when you see Alex with his face in his hands instead of AJ or OJ, you know this is going to be hot garbage. I have personally refused to see any of the live action remakes of classic Disney films as they are pointless when the original already still exists and holds up in quality.
Watch the Beauty and the Beast is quite good.
I know I was suprised how mad he got with it ! That mulan make a man out of you is a good song tho I once worked out to it ! Gives you a pump !!!!
but the thing is Disney made books other people made and turned it into films
Since watching Dumbo, I decided to pass on ALL remakes
To be honest, I don't know what Alex and OJ thinks anymore. 99% of the time it's just AJ talking to himself with thing one and thing two nodding in agreement like yes men. Heck even when the rare times they do disagree with Joe, he beats their opinion into submission until their opinion lines up with his. Sometimes I wonder why he bothers to have co-hosts.
The change of the Huns for the Rourans (however that's spelled) it's because they /supposedly/ aimed for more historically accurate villans. Cause this Mulan /supposedly/ was more realistic. Despite that /supposed/ point of view, there were no Chinese screenwriters or producers involved, so, according to actually Chinese reviewers, they screwed it up BIG TIME and was even more insulting to the culture than the OG animated version of Mulan.
Disney : " we can't say the M word..."
Ghost of Tsushima : "you mean MONGOLS?"
Edit : as the comments said, yes it was the Huns, also the "Be a Man" song... SMDH
lol...so true
Exactly they are just chasing that china money
Mushu?!?!
was the Huns though
@@sjneow you're actually right, also the "Be a Man" was so painfully obviously not going to be in
So.. they went the Rey Palpatine route with the main character.
Tbh what did we expect there just gonna keep shamelessly milking there classics for a quick cash grab.
Yep, $$$ talks and not like I expect Disney to ever swallow their pride or greed to begin with
They’re and their *
@lego yoda Saying "no ono cares about grammar on YT" to someone who obviously cared :D
@lego yoda lol you salty
@@carlopez3 okay Carlos
When mulan kicked the spear during battle and all the enemies yelled out “witch!” I checked out mentally
Joe: Sorry Mulan fans
What are you sorry for? This film blows even for those who like mulan.
I think it's apologizing for the movie XD
Yeah, I love the original Mulan so much and this live action just existed being a half-ass
Maybe he's sorry for the fans because they got such a shitty movie?
Dude!!…Mulan was the one movie growing up I wanted SO BAD to be turned into live action. This was the ONE movie that I would have been completely happy if they did it completely the same as the animated one, shot by shot!! It already had so many things for a perfect live action film.
- Good characters
- Great music
- Emotional, uplifting, and funny moments
- GREAT action scenes
- A good MENACING villain
- Dark moments
- And it already had a good message
(¬_¬) But NOPE!…Disney said new generation, new me.
Meanwhile Aladdin was a shot for shit remake, and it totally should not have been.
This live action Mulan didn’t feel like the Mulan we grew up with, but more like a different movie.
Why do you even want a live action remake anyway. Whats the point? Part of the charm of the original was the amazing animation and artstyle.
BigWig 25 Oh I know that for sure! But as a kid you ask yourself “how would that look like?”
And then later on in life when your much older, you look back and notice that there’s actually potential for a great live action film.
"How many men does it take to deliver a message?"
*slow spreading evil grin* "One, my lord."
Got the notification and the thumbnail told me everything I needed to know about Mulan 2020.
When I saw the crazy things she did in the trailer i fr said "It's crazy how the animation is more realistic than the live action."
Mulan 2020: "We are under attack by seven morons!"
What’s with live action movies and changing names to be flat out terrible 😆
@@ohyeahgamer3736 because jokes
"the film is about a women who chooses to go against tradition"
best summary for current disney XD
instead of following a tradition to make unique and good films its just cash grabs and relying on nostalgia/fans
Mulan is just about not following tradition. I'm good with that. If they change it up, improve it.
Got an XD but it's not the one Disney had
- Comethazine
I mean that's exactly what the cartoon mulan is about. A woman defying tradition to fight for what she loves.
@@animelytical8354 mulan, the women of general Yang clan family, the women in heroes of water margin, u westerner has no idea how to write strong women characters nowadays.
The description kinda reminds me of Netflix’s Cuties
*ACTUAL Strong Female character exists*
Disney:
🎵I'll make a Mary Sue out you🎵
Insert screeching fanboi "wElL iN tHE *REE* - L sToRY sHe dIDnT hAVe a MaN!¡!"
🎵I’ll make money out of you🎵 is more fitting
More accurately
*Actual strong female character exists*
Old Disney: yes I love this and will portray it properly and it be entertaining
New Disney: oh what's this, this is sexist, there now it sucks and is no longer sexist, worth it
@@penguinmcswaggn2936
Shit, remember what they did to Pocohantas?
Turned a story of an 11 year old who gets seduced by a middle aged man with plague and Ratcliff getting skinned alive by the indians for the crime of reading the Bible and lots and lots of death...
...into a story of two similar but different people's with their own goods and bads overcoming their differences with the help of some lovebirds.
Walt Disney best Disney.
McMouse disney can suck a Disney.
I read this as "When You Wish Upon A Star" tune crossed my head.
Disney: Funny talking dragons are out because cultural appropriation.
Also Disney: Chi is MAGIC!!!!