that part this what i dont understand they dead now there like a falling slow giant the more people cut the middle man which are these labels the more of your millions you will see and also these streaming platforms gotta go
Yeah, thr fee based services that contract with recording labels Yeah they can still stream. But not the ones profit illegally without paying royalties Strange isn't it
@jimmymac601 ALL record labels do this. This is normal last 15, years. Before internet, the record labels bought their own music, to get on the billboard charts, so it could generate MORE money...Fraud is the standard in music industry....
If they want to sue him for the money, fine. However, this is not a "crime" that calls for 60 years of anything whether it's jail or community service.
@@gunsofsteelea LOT of people are doing this and a lot of people will be now, more careful people that will learn from his mistakes, improve their security, and stop at something like 200,000$. Spotify is *royally* fucked because if 100 people do this and tap out at 200,000, they’ve literally stolen 200,000,000 dollars collectively
@@markmalasics3413This is the FBI, they don’t have infinite resources, and the resources used to catch a guy who stole money from spotify should’ve been used for people committing actual crimes against innocent human beings
It doesn't make any sense for "them" to implement a scam like this. God youtube commenters are dense af. They had to PAY him based on millions of fake listens to HIS OWN MUSIC.
No. That's not what was happening, and it makes no sense at all to propse that it would make sense for a streaming platform, distributor, record label to implement such a self-destructive scam. I just cant get over how braindead people can be. ... It's baffling. You want so badly to point to a conspiracy of the man, and I'll agree that there are great issues with american capitalism, but this ain't an example of anything other than wire fraud. Honestly, the only thing that makes sense is that you are unable to comprehend the scam he was using.
What this fraud accomplishes is that it reduces the amount of overall money that any actual real artists are earning from their music. The overall pot of money that comes from Spotify subscriptions and ad revenueis limited . Real musicians get paid a tiny percentage, based on the total amount of traffic on spotify.. What these guys are doing is reducing the overall pot of money by creating fake traffic using a bot farm in order to siphon off part of that pot of money to this jerk on a scale that few real musicians could ever accomplish.. He's also not the only one Please see the recent slate article about an evolution of the scam that a bunch of us uncovered on Reddit in the last year as well
@@dr4090 yeah he's not stealing from Daniel Eck (Spotify CEO) personally, he's specifically stealing from all the other Spotify artists. The musicians all get a percentage of a limited pot of money.
The creators of Spotify do this and it has been known for years but nobody does anything to them. The music industry does this and gets away with it but if a regular guy gets caught they throw the book at him. That's the closest thing we have to justice
He needs to make money as a musician the old fashioned way: cover himself with tattoos, blow all his money on drugs and jewelry and then tell the rest of us how to vote.
I got 365,000 streams and only made $100 legitimately. The real crime is how legitimate artists don’t get paid. This guy is being singularly targeted for what the big fish do every day. That being said, there’s more to this story.
So he streamed A.I. generated songs that aren't owned by any label. It sounds like this is only about making multiple accounts which sounds like a weird dystopian way to arrest someone.
I somewhat understand it. He’s creating accounts under fake names. I can see how that would be fraud, especially considering the terms of service you agree to is a law abiding contract.
He was stealing money. That's the bottom line. He created hundreds of thousands of fake bots to listen to his own music, and create payouts. Hopefully this explanation helps you to understand.
@@nicksophinos4611 Sure, in this context is automation through software meant to appear as a human interaction, therefore a faked human action. But don't worry about my definition - make sure to understand laws you are subject to.
They're locking him up while spotify steals millions from artists by paying them a fraction of a penny per stream ? 🤔 They pay about $5,000 for a million streams ! They should be in jail because they created this mess.
Or even had them in the first place. I did not authorize those people to have my ss# I’ve never done business or heard of them. How is that not identity theft?
So, making music using AI and posting it to the streaming services wasn't apparently the problem here. It was just the fake user accounts and bots streaming said AI generated music to get royalties for plays. Got it. I was going to say, since when are the streaming services preventing AI generated music being uploaded to their platforms.
AI helped him stay under the radar for a while since the streams were spread across thousands of AI generated songs versus a few real songs being botted. The AI part isn't the illegal part yet they are just highlighting how it aids in other crimes. Didn't realize any of this was illegal I assumed it was on spotify to stop bots.
When the music industry is ran by thieves apparently regular people aren't allowed to steal from them. 🙄. Sounds like one of these music companies or record labels got involved in this man sentencing because 60 years is essentially a life sentence. Somebody wants this man under the jail to keep him quiet.
All the while, major streaming platforms can still generate billions annually off the talent and songs of struggling songwriters whose earnings have drastically diminished over the last 10-15 years. Makes perfect sense.
DOES NOT MATTER……in THIS country all he will do is plead guilty and get a sentence UNEQUAL to the crime!!! Judges are the enemy of the people for allowing this!!! 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️😡😡😡
KUDOS to this guy for truly sticking it to the man ! If he eeked it out and only made about $50,000 per year he probably would’ve never got caught. $10 million in a short time tipped them off. He’s definitely a genius, the punishment doesn’t fit the crime, and I hope he can appeal and stash the dough somewhere 😎
I don't think any of this is illegal. This is the exact same thing wall street does on a daily basis with there bots and algorithms. If there is no buying or selling pressure the programs create it to shore up their trades.
Moderation. You have to do schemes like this in moderation. Greed almost always has a byproduct of suspicion or investigation by someone. He probably could have made enough money to at least pay his bills and have a little bit of fun vacation/recreation money without ever being caught.
He apparently got all of those bots to post comments on this video feeling sorry for him...lol...the guy committed fraud to the tune of millions of dollars, he knew it was wrong, he got caught. Now you gotta pay the piper. Them's the breaks.
how about using your real names to create all fake things as a lower ?! she is 40 years now, if adding 60 years in jail by truth law, she will have a happy ending 100 years !
He made music. And then stream that music with the help of AI. Ai streamed the music so much that it made him money. My question is what songs did he make?
You get more prison time for royalty theft than you do for killing someone.
Money
The law has become such a joke.
Fact
Well, serious of high impacting crimes, is more lengthy for sentencing
CAPITALISM is fatal💀
When will the record labels be arrested and charged?
RIGHT :)
that part this what i dont understand they dead now there like a falling slow giant the more people cut the middle man which are these labels the more of your millions you will see and also these streaming platforms gotta go
There controlled by Sony Standard oil of New York Rockefeller You understand
For what? Making legal contracts with their clients?
No one bats an eye when you steal from the poor. Steal from the rich and apparently you get sixty years.
So Spotify, etc and all the other major labels can do exactly this but he does it and he’s facing 60 yrs!? WHAT A JOKE.
Yeah, thr fee based services that contract with recording labels
Yeah they can still stream. But not the ones profit illegally without paying royalties
Strange isn't it
Do you mean those that make legal contracts?
Haters jealous of him..
@@markmalasics3413 Those that profit from real artists while giving almost nothing in return. Not much of a difference
Yall are special.
This is BS, guy should be in marketing, genius.
He didn't market anything, though. It was all a scam.
It’s not good marketing it’s theft
It wasn't the creation of the music, it was the fake bots making it appear as if someone was actually streaming the music.
@jimmymac601 ALL record labels do this. This is normal last 15, years. Before internet, the record labels bought their own music, to get on the billboard charts, so it could generate MORE money...Fraud is the standard in music industry....
@@TJ-bx5px Same with books to.
Any crime that involves you making money they throw the book 😂😂
Tha man is tha only one who can make millions from this :(
A book? The throw him the whole encyclopedia
meh, white collar criminals rarely see justice
The guy is creative. But wait a minute! Sixty years in prison? How many years do we give to murders?
To the courts, there's a certain amount of money that exceeds the value of a human life... unfortunately
To much trouble to prosecute unless they confess even if there's video 😅
20 w/ parole this judicial system is disgusting
That's not creativity.
Let alone pedos
If they want to sue him for the money, fine. However, this is not a "crime" that calls for 60 years of anything whether it's jail or community service.
actually wire fraud is a federal crime that can bring 20 years of prison per count
60 years of anything….what you mean?
If he stole 10 million from investors or from a bank would you say the same thing?
@@kenm6065 yes I'm sick of living in a scam-based economy
This is absolutely outrageous. Government overreach at its finest.
BS, the guy is a genius, law enforcement needs to work on real crime not this BS...
If that "genius" had stopped at $1 million we would have never heard of him. 🤣🤣🤣
Another idiotic comment, as if law enforcement only works on one case and situation at a time. SMFH at the stupidity.
@@gunsofsteelea LOT of people are doing this and a lot of people will be now, more careful people that will learn from his mistakes, improve their security, and stop at something like 200,000$. Spotify is *royally* fucked because if 100 people do this and tap out at 200,000, they’ve literally stolen 200,000,000 dollars collectively
@@markmalasics3413This is the FBI, they don’t have infinite resources, and the resources used to catch a guy who stole money from spotify should’ve been used for people committing actual crimes against innocent human beings
YUP
He's being charged because they're mad they didn't think of this first.
It doesn't make any sense for "them" to implement a scam like this. God youtube commenters are dense af. They had to PAY him based on millions of fake listens to HIS OWN MUSIC.
Basically
@@dighawaii1So what? Jealous? Wish you thought of it first.
If they are going to arrest him. then they should charge all the major labels who do the same thing. free this man
Bingo!
EXACTLY.
No. That's not what was happening, and it makes no sense at all to propse that it would make sense for a streaming platform, distributor, record label to implement such a self-destructive scam. I just cant get over how braindead people can be. ... It's baffling. You want so badly to point to a conspiracy of the man, and I'll agree that there are great issues with american capitalism, but this ain't an example of anything other than wire fraud. Honestly, the only thing that makes sense is that you are unable to comprehend the scam he was using.
Sorry... nothing about this warrants a sixty year term. NOTHING.
What this fraud accomplishes is that it reduces the amount of overall money that any actual real artists are earning from their music. The overall pot of money that comes from Spotify subscriptions and ad revenueis limited . Real musicians get paid a tiny percentage, based on the total amount of traffic on spotify.. What these guys are doing is reducing the overall pot of money by creating fake traffic using a bot farm in order to siphon off part of that pot of money to this jerk on a scale that few real musicians could ever accomplish..
He's also not the only one
Please see the recent slate article about an evolution of the scam that a bunch of us uncovered on Reddit in the last year as well
he stole $10M from musicians...
@@dr4090 yeah he's not stealing from Daniel Eck (Spotify CEO) personally, he's specifically stealing from all the other Spotify artists. The musicians all get a percentage of a limited pot of money.
Getting 60 years for something musical artists do. Free that man
@@shawwtypimp lol they do not do this
The creators of Spotify do this and it has been known for years but nobody does anything to them. The music industry does this and gets away with it but if a regular guy gets caught they throw the book at him. That's the closest thing we have to justice
When crooks rule your society, only the crooked receive justice.
because hes taking their cut
Like the lyrics in that Bob Dylan song..
..” steal a little, and they throw you in jail..
Steal a lot,.. and they make you king”. 😅
we need to boycott these music streaming platforms
@@whatIsTruth-r3iif that was written today one could question if it was penned by an artist or a algorithm
Every major record label does this for their artists 😂
Also why don’t they start giving pedos these type of sentences!!? 60yrs !!??
Because big paper $$$ involved 😂 #coldworld
Bcuz are justice system is controlled by Izraelis
Who do the Cartel bank with???🤔🤔🤔🤔
Exactly
He's not getting 60 years. It's "up to" that much for wire fraud. duh
60yrs while the guy with multiple violent felonies and gun charges keeps being released.
He needs to make money as a musician the old fashioned way: cover himself with tattoos, blow all his money on drugs and jewelry and then tell the rest of us how to vote.
😂
I got 365,000 streams and only made $100 legitimately. The real crime is how legitimate artists don’t get paid. This guy is being singularly targeted for what the big fish do every day. That being said, there’s more to this story.
use a bot, but dont get greeedy....lol
So he streamed A.I. generated songs that aren't owned by any label. It sounds like this is only about making multiple accounts which sounds like a weird dystopian way to arrest someone.
Republicans have been trying to tell everyone for over 8 years. Do you finally believe us now?
I don't think you understand the charge
I somewhat understand it. He’s creating accounts under fake names. I can see how that would be fraud, especially considering the terms of service you agree to is a law abiding contract.
This shows who the real gangsters are.
If there were ever an example that we are living in a corporate oligarchy in the US, this is it.
He was stealing money. That's the bottom line. He created hundreds of thousands of fake bots to listen to his own music, and create payouts. Hopefully this explanation helps you to understand.
@@dighawaii1 Define fake.
Being a lil judgemental of the AI....
they were just doing what they were programed too do😮....
@@nicksophinos4611 Sure, in this context is automation through software meant to appear as a human interaction, therefore a faked human action. But don't worry about my definition - make sure to understand laws you are subject to.
Justice only for those with deep pockets.
They're locking him up while spotify steals millions from artists by paying them a fraction of a penny per stream ? 🤔 They pay about $5,000 for a million streams ! They should be in jail because they created this mess.
Cell mate: “I got 5 years of childprn, what did you get?”, rolls eyes “60 years for streaming music”.
Lol what a world we live in.
This is an absolute joke, this guy should be hired by the real musicians to teach them how NOT TO GET SCAMMED
This doesn’t sound like fraud but more like a smart man.
As an American citizen I feel much safer now. 😂🙄
If only real crime would get this kinda years of incarceration.
in the meantime, nothing happens to those people who lost everybody's social security numbers.
Or even had them in the first place. I did not authorize those people to have my ss# I’ve never done business or heard of them. How is that not identity theft?
Raided? What a joke.
Too bad this guy got caught. The streamers rip off content creators every minute of every day.
But if he'd killed someone he'd only be looking at 15 years in prison?
3 years for manslaughter and 6 months for pedo activity.
what if hundreds of people got together and did this? could they take them all down? this is an injustice.
They already do it's called the music industry 😅
The abhorrent stupidity of our "justice" system. 😞😞💭
Project much?
He broke laws he got busted.
shaking my head he figured out a way and they took it from him iam getting out of america
they go after this guy but wont arrest a shop lifter?
It's because shoplifters are under $1000
I still didn't hear a real crime other than he didn't use his real name. I never use a real name online, only a fool would.
Sounds like an entrepreneur
limewire lol
10 million dollars off streaming? Wow
Thats from 2017 til now
@warriorplutotrent3827 Oh, ok. But still that's a lot of work. Wow.
So, making music using AI and posting it to the streaming services wasn't apparently the problem here. It was just the fake user accounts and bots streaming said AI generated music to get royalties for plays. Got it. I was going to say, since when are the streaming services preventing AI generated music being uploaded to their platforms.
AI helped him stay under the radar for a while since the streams were spread across thousands of AI generated songs versus a few real songs being botted. The AI part isn't the illegal part yet they are just highlighting how it aids in other crimes. Didn't realize any of this was illegal I assumed it was on spotify to stop bots.
He is a genius Record labels do the same bs
@@CLSgod It isn't illegal. Especially if he paid for the Spotify accounts. It is just a loophole. So crazy.
With all the problems from the border being open, and a major school shooting just happening yesterday, this is what the FBI is focusing on?
Just don't let them team up with atf again.. ruby ridge
The border is open? cool!
Anything to prevent a normie from being successful and they get another notch in their belt. The government only exists to screw people over.
@@LionKamala Cool, move to the other side of it.
@@Sublime_37 and which side is that?
Spotify: 💰 🎶 🤑 🎵 😂
PDFs: Three to five years for heinous crimes.
This guy: Sixty years in prison.. for what again?
They wait for the money to stack up then they take everything
This is creativity not criminal he promoted his music just like other companies do amd he's going away for 60 yrs
Wow so messing with AI is a bigger crime then killing somone?
Actually doesn’t seem like he’s committing a crime
System is a joke..... murderers get less time
Why the hell are the characterizing him as a musician? He's just a fraudster.
What a joke! Your justice system is really fooked.
This is not a real crime.. it's music nobody cares... he produced sound streaming platforms pay for sound.. no problem
With all these real criminals? lol this is a joke
This guy is a real criminal
@@KK-pm7udreal criminals are the us government who uses our tax dollars to hurt children in other countries conflicts.
Wyt woman killed elderly woman and got 7 years. Tell me how this is balance justice system.
Ripping off real musicians, how genius is that. I hope they crack down on all these AI scammers
When the music industry is ran by thieves apparently regular people aren't allowed to steal from them. 🙄. Sounds like one of these music companies or record labels got involved in this man sentencing because 60 years is essentially a life sentence. Somebody wants this man under the jail to keep him quiet.
you get more prison time for royalty theft then disgusting pedophiles do for sharing photos. Thats truly sickening
All the while, major streaming platforms can still generate billions annually off the talent and songs of struggling songwriters whose earnings have drastically diminished over the last 10-15 years. Makes perfect sense.
DOES NOT MATTER……in THIS country all he will do is plead guilty and get a sentence UNEQUAL to the crime!!! Judges are the enemy of the people for allowing this!!! 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️😡😡😡
If the streaming services couldn't figure this out, how much fraud are they doing on you?
it seems they did figure this out, it's not like you did some research and found it yourself haha
The burden of proof rests on the accusers. How can they be so sure those aren't humans?
I don't know exactly but I imagine pretty easily
The accuser is Spotify.
Smith has open a can of worms, he is not the only one using the tactic. shame on yall for messing up the music business
Not mad at this guy at all.
So he's guilty of making 10 million dollars.wow
KUDOS to this guy for truly sticking it to the man ! If he eeked it out and only made about $50,000 per year he probably would’ve never got caught. $10 million in a short time tipped them off. He’s definitely a genius, the punishment doesn’t fit the crime, and I hope he can appeal and stash the dough somewhere 😎
Rules for thee but not for we.
This man should be free
This happens in china all the time. Please explAin to me how this is illegal?
I don't think any of this is illegal. This is the exact same thing wall street does on a daily basis with there bots and algorithms. If there is no buying or selling pressure the programs create it to shore up their trades.
Well i feel much safer now 👍
GTFOH! Waste of money and resources. Smh..
They will make an example out of this guy
Record companies gouge artists and fans = Grammy. Average Joe hustles and makes some coin = Jail. Can’t have the little guy making a living.
This is nonsense
Wait, what exactly is the crime here?
Moderation. You have to do schemes like this in moderation. Greed almost always has a byproduct of suspicion or investigation by someone. He probably could have made enough money to at least pay his bills and have a little bit of fun vacation/recreation money without ever being caught.
The record labels do the same dam thing.
I'm glad I didn't cut those tags on my mattress.
This is dumb arrest
Here in the USA, we have "Freedom of speech" unless...
After hearing banjo coming from the house , agents were stalled. Hours Later he was arrested.
How is this illegal? The law department needs to be investigated and sued.
Should have sent the money to Switzerland.
He stole from the bad guys 😂😂😂
So its okay then big corporations doing it..
He apparently got all of those bots to post comments on this video feeling sorry for him...lol...the guy committed fraud to the tune of millions of dollars, he knew it was wrong, he got caught. Now you gotta pay the piper. Them's the breaks.
That's a badass grift.
I’m old enough to remember stealing doughnuts and milk off of the delivery trucks early morning… man how things have changed. Glad I went straight !!
Me too that's disgusting that you would leave on purpose
What in the hell did he do wrong!.. big brother does not want him in the game!..
Ummm can I speak with him for a sec
The moment a musician makes money they call it illegal....
how about using your real names to create all fake things as a lower ?!
she is 40 years now, if adding 60 years in jail by truth law, she will have a happy ending 100 years !
Why haven't the pop music industry criminals in my case been charged? Miley Cyrus, Katy Perry, Taylor Swift, Beyonce Knowles and the others?
I don't know what he did
Thanks for taking my money..... can i have my money now for my legit streams?
Who Cares!! How about the illegal Migrants Situation? 🤔 💭
I'm going to go ahead and send a message out to all of you people. If you are hustling you better hide some of that bag.😮
Thank God the FBI got this guy off the streets. 😮
Wow smart
Any step by step on how to do this?
we need to boycott all these music streaming platforms
This is ridiculous. I need to learn more of this case.
Maybe I don't understand. If you create the AI music it belongs to you so what exactly did he do illegal? Was it other peoples music?
He made music. And then stream that music with the help of AI. Ai streamed the music so much that it made him money. My question is what songs did he make?
It would seem the songs are irrelevant, the crime is faking content engagement
A+ for creative thinking!
So, does this affect the record sales and Statutes, awarded since he started?
What exactly was the crime?