@@navinramjattan6010 While I am no authority & have no right to say, yay or nay on this matter; I can only share with you my personal experience; these items are in small packet form. When placed in a glass jar & tightly sealed, they seem to remove the oxygen in the jar. If you use them, read about their safety & safe use online. They must be kept in a small enclosed container or the O2 in the air will render them spent. Good luck.
Over time, I have come to rely on 400cc Oxygen Absorbers as my go to for all my Jars (up to 1/2 Gallon size) & Mylar Bags (up to 1 Gallon size). I got tired of all the Chart Recommendations & decided 400cc Oxygen Absorbers was the Key for me. This has worked out very well, as I only use one size 400cc Oxygen Absorber for all my Jars & Mylar Bags & I know when I use them, they take care of the Oxygen in all of them - Just go with 400cc or 500cc Oxygen Absorbers for everything you do & be done with it & eliminate the guessing & Headaches!!! Note: I do use a Chamber Vacuum Sealer & Oxygen Absorbers as much as possible & Oxygen Absorbers in my Mylar Bags with an Impulse Sealer when I have fragile Food I don't want to Crush!
You are the reason I use a chamber sealer. I used to use the Freeze Dryer to do that but didn't like unhooking and removing the rack in my freeze dryer. I've been happy to have the chamber sealer, but have had a few Qt jars that became "unsealed" in a few days or wouldn't seal at all. A new lid usually fixed the problem. On a couple of occasions I couldn't get jars to seal and decided the rim was faulty so I repurposed the jar for things that don't need sealing. Another time I sealed gusseted bags with resealing strips. I sealed above the strips and a few days later the bags were no longer sucked up. I opened, resealed in something else and tossed all of those bags. Obviously they were defective. I now wait for abouta week before packing my jars and bags away for storage to make sure they are sealed. I always put the unused OA packets in a jar and chamber seal them to maintain freshness ASAP. The chamber was expensive,but worth every penny!
well harrumph!! I chucked out a bunch of oxygen absorbers because they didnt shrink my mylar bags!!! lol Thankyou for that nugget of brilliance . I did not know that i needed to know all of this information . I just love the simple way you explained the whole de-oxygenating process. :) xxx
Good info 👍. What I do with extra absorbers is store them in small used Mylar bags and vacuum seal them. 7mil works best. 5 mil will work but most of those have small holes in them after using them once.
Thank you so much for this video. I am frustrated by the manufacturers of the oxygen absorbers not labeling the packets. I opened a box today of some I bought several months ago and can't tell what is what. There is printing all over the front and back sides, so why don't they include useful info like how many CCs they are?
Thank you for this series of videos. Doesnt matter if you have been freeze drying for years or a newbie, theres always something new to learn! Love your products too & yep this reminded me i need to place an order for bags & the parchment sheets I think I cant FD without! 😊.
Thank you for this series. I’ve learned a tremendous amount of good info! Now if we just get everyone to watch your series and quit giving bad advice in your Facebook group! 🤦♀️🤷♀️
I have had good luck sealing leftover OAs in a second bag using either my Avid Armor USV32 or my Food Saver. I often keep the Food Saver out next to the Avid Armor just for that purpose. I can do the OAs right away while sealing the food bags.
I also much prefer them to the HR lids that allow the higher tray to slide all over the place. My problem is with the corners occasionally getting so locked on that I have great difficulty getting them off the tray. In fact, I have one that is missing about 6 inches down the side because it broke when I was trying to get it off the tray. Still prefer them, however, and the broken one is reserved for non-liquid product.
I have a chamber vac also. So I reseal the bag of oxygen absorbers in there bag using that. Little extra tid bit. If wanting to use the jar method, you can use the freeze drier to seal the jar
I use quart Mason jars about 25% of the time. When I use jars, I use a vacuum sealer function to seal the jars. Do I still need an oxygen absorber in those that are vacuum sealed?
Possibly, however, unless the absorber is in an environment free of oxygen, they will not work. If you remove them from the packaging, they start working
This video is very informative, thank you. I just have a Foodsaver and I add o2 absorbers for dry goods. Someday I hope to buy a freeze dryer. I'd love to experiment with different dishes like you.
I've always just taken the O2 absorber I need out of the little clear bag then hit it with the impulse sealer to contain the rest. As long as you don't get wrinkles it works fine for me. I've only have one batch not seal and it had a very obvious wrinkle that I never noticed. Putting two or three in an empty jar seems like it would use up more than a flat bag that you can seal right up next to the absorber so it is basically just an individual wrapped packet. Oh yea turn you impulse sealer down to barely on, set to mylar it will just chop of the end of the plastic bag.....which sucks
@@ChrisBaker-pg3ty It does seem much more efficient and smooth when I write it out here. lot less cussing and dried peas rolling across the basement floor in comments i find.😂
Yer a Legend as us Brits say mate.Just about to commit to a small pro ordered direct from here in Edmonton Canada based on yer latest review of the pro
Thank you so much for the information, this was the missing piece to my understanding of the freeze drying process. My Harvest Right runs almost non-stop and I’m always unsure about the correct absorber to use. I currently store in both jars and bags depending on how soon I intend on using the item.
Thank you. I do have a couple of questions.i recently purchased o2 from Wallaby. They are packed on 10 vacuum bags when I open one pouch they are hard already, is this normal? Am i supposed to manipulate them a little to get them soft before I put it in mylar bag? My second question is, can you vacuum chamber seal a 1 gallon maylar bag on the model you showed? Thank you.
Do you have a video on how to use the armor vacuum sealer with jars? I’ve never tried it with them only with mylar bags. Thanks and love your videos they are so helpful
I have purchases oxygen absorbers with the little dots and they have never changed color. After I used up the packet I set the indicator out on the counter just to see and they have been on the counter for a month and are still nice and pink. Other purchases have their indicators change fairly quickly. Good to have other ways to make sure they are still OK.
Thanks mate! Just did my first batch and was wondering what to do with leftover absorbers. Sealed them then put in a jar. Had no clue on size or how long they last. Really informative vid. Cheers!
Thank you so much I'm new at this and I was worried about what to do with the extras. I ended up using some and now I realize they were done... So I will be using those packages of food ASAP. A learning process Thank you for the helpful information I've watched several of your videos.
I did not know about the pink n purple. (HR sent us a box just last month w machine) I notice what's left! Of what we haven't used or opened yet are purple! Idk how many we used that had the purple!
Good morning! We shared this amazing video to our Community tab. Thanks for another great video helping us answer any questions we have about oxygen absorbers!
Keep the 5 gallon bag on the ground or table. Add your oxygen absorbers. Now press out remaining oxygen. Lining up top edges of mylar bag. Using a hot straight iron seal the bag closed. Or you can place a bucket on each sides of the bag. Place a piece of wood from one bucket to the other. Put oxygen absorbers into mylar bag squeeze out excess oxygen fold bag over the pice of wood ( like a 7 shape) now iron the top portion of the bag. You will have to play with an extra bag, to find out what setting on your iron works best for you. I hope this helps.
I think I saw a video by Brian on using the FD as a vacuum chamber. Does the 5 gallon bag have a zip closure? You might be able to seal it part way, then use the FD. After it’s done use the impulse sealer. Just a thought. Good luck!
yea A $30 hair straightening iron is your best bet other than the heavy duty hand held crimp sealers which are $150- $200. I've always been able to get mine to seal with the hair iron so I have never splurged on the heavy duty one. I fill the bag in the bucket (my 5 gal bags are all in buckets) then carefully seal the whole bag except for enough room to get the big o2 absorber in it. It is easier to get the seal wrinkle free if you do it slowly. Once you have all the bags mostly sealed I throw in the Obsorbers and seal the last bit up to finish off.
I don't use desiccant pouches because freeze dried food should not have any moisture in it at all before going into storage. If it needs a pouch, it's probably not done. They could be useful for short term in a Mason jar
Question, what if you're sealing grain, same type and amounts in multiple mylar bags. Then say after using the same pack of oxygen absorbers and same size bag etc some of the bags vacuum pack tightly but others are still loose, and no noticeable damage to the bag or seal. Do the loosely packed bags need to be redone? That's what confuses me the most.
Wow! Just discovered your channel! Thank you for such thorough explanation on everything!! Definitely have been doing some things wrong but thankfully we’re only a month in, lol. Blessings to your family 🙏🏼
question. can i open up my past freezedried bags and insert an additional absorber, and seal it back up for storage? foods that i have dried in the last year?
The mixture inside an oxygen absorber is an iron alloy powder, a little salt, graphite and water. They are basically the same guts as hothands handwarmer packets. A combination oxygen and moisture absorber has aluminum iron alloy graphite and calcium chloride as the salt.
I don’t see the exothermic reaction mentioned in same as comment, sorry forever curious! Good on this gentleman to mention the SAFE INGREDIENT bring Fe un oxidized iron. Looked up what used, I’m guessing use Magnesium Sulfate as cheap hydrophilic ingredient. Can’t imagine people buying things like that to lower humidity until someone I knew did that! I said just bulk but it’s cheaper in product than usual use or chemical supply. I’d prefer to support this man and have convenience than packaging for packaging to package repack. Time is a factor too, don’t store aluminum in nitrates! 💣 What mixture is in those Iron Alloy? Please link or list chemical source if inexpensive, y’all seem to know this subject, I’m a newbie!
I would assume you vacuum out the oxygen from the container before sealing. You could put nitrogen in the bag or jar. It’s heavier than air and safe for food. They used to sell a small container for wine drinkers . Open you oxygen absorbers and place in a jar of nitrogen.
One thing to point out…Not ALL chamber sealers seal Mylar bags. I called my manufacturer to ask them about mine and they said they do not recommend Mylar bags in my chamber vac. Mine is an older one so maybe a mute point for all the newer chamber vacs. I have not done any research on it but next one I buy I will make sure it is capable of sealing Mylar.
I would if you plan on storing stuff for any length of time. Vacum sealer helps but don't get all the o2 out. if you are puttting stuff like soup with a bit of meat or fats definitely. Stuff like herbs and most vegetables will last quite awhile (like a year at least) if kept in the dark without them.
I once contacted Avid they said I didn't an oxygen absorbers with their machine. I use one anyway, but thought that was interesting. I use absorbers with my food Saver attachment, are th ey necessary? Could you do another video using the Harvest Right to vacuum seal, and show us how you use the Avid with Mason jars?
Thanks for great content! I recently opened my freeze dried food from 4 years ago that was kept in an air tight jar but didn’t add oxygen absorber obviously because I didn’t know about this concept here. Now that I try to reconstitute it (freeze dried eggs to be specific) the consistency is not that great, taste is off and cooks bad. Are all the parameters affected when the FD food is packed without adequate oxygen elimination?
I would be careful consuming food that was not stored properly. If it was not vacuum sealed or didn't have an oxygen absorber, the food could be dangerous to consume.
I’ve heard that there are certain food products (ex. Brown Rice) that you should not use oxygen absorbers with due to the potential risk of the creation of botulism. With that said … is there a list of foods that are safe to use by adding oxygen absorbers to ?
And now a few words, please, on how long to set the chamber sealer to run. Yes, I know the figures in the user manual, but some experienced knowledge for different situations would be helpful. Also, I used to store unused absorbers in small mylar bags, but found that a small Mason jar is indeed MUCH handier! After all, the chamber sealer is already running.
There is no magic setting, it will depend on your bag type and thickness. I use mine at 30 vac time and 6 seal time. Once vacuumed and sealed, I seal it again with the impulse sealer for good measure.
I would start using OA's and use what youve alreasy backed first. There's still goong to be some air occupying the space that the water used to occupy in your freeze dried food...
Unfortunately, your video was only now seen - wishing it was seen a year ago. Last week, I checked on several packages of absorbers that were left in the original packaging and, found every one is rock hard. I contacted the company and received no response. Apparently, that company is too busy to communicate with their patrons. Thank you for your informed videos.
HELP!! Do we use oxygen abs for powdered drink mix? Like powder gatorade?? Or is that like sugar and doesn't m Need it? Sweet tea mix? Lemonade mix? help!!😊
@@melmelbry5754 if you use an oxygen absorber you will need to keep adding a new one or be sure that it is still functioning every time you take some powder out for use. If fully freeze-dried it can last quite awhile with no absorber
The only issue I see is that vacuum sealing foods in mylar bags that have a sharp edge, such as noodles. The sharp edges or corners will poke a hole in a mylar bag (or FoodSaver bag) and fail. I've even had beans in a bag that failed. I only use the vacuum sealer for meats I intend to deep freeze, and a few dry goods. Are you sure that FD foods have 0% moisture? I was taught that it can be 1-4% moisture.
I'm sure there is a minute amount, but not enough that the naked eye or touching it can detect it. I say "0" more for a.dfamatic effect to get my point across.
Is it ok to put oxygen absorbers in freeze dried fruits and veggies? I heard that you shouldn't and also not in powdered eggs. So we took them out of all our mylar bags that were done.
I do not use moisture absorbers. If your food has moisture, it is not fully freeze dried. They can be added for short term snacks and food that will be eaten in a few days to help with humidity and things
Long term storage of oxegen absorbers? I thought they had a 1-2 year shelf life even when stored perfectly? I have a bunch and I am afraid to use them. I have used a inverted graduated beaker in water and tested them to determine if they are good but get questionable results. What say ye?
Do you have any thoughts on why some OAP's (oxygen absorber packets for those who don't know the acronym) taken out of a new bag (with the freshness dot still pink) and laid out on the kitchen countertop would NOT get hard? Granted, we do live where the humidity is very low, but out of 3 OAP brands tested (Harvest Right, PackFresh, and the LDS store) the first two are still soft and pliable 20 days later, but the LDS packet was hard within (at most) two days. To me, this says the first two were failures, but maybe I'm missing something here? I felt them a couple of times a day and never felt any of the 3 getting warm. Thoughts are appreciated!
I have watched dozens of vlogs about oxygen absorbers, your presentation is by far the best... Pleasant & to the point!
Wow, thank you!
@NickatLateNite base on your experience, does this have any side effects on humans if left in an enclosed area?
@@navinramjattan6010 While I am no authority & have no right to say, yay or nay on this matter; I can only share with you my personal experience; these items are in small packet form. When placed in a glass jar & tightly sealed, they seem to remove the oxygen in the jar. If you use them, read about their safety & safe use online. They must be kept in a small enclosed container or the O2 in the air will render them spent. Good luck.
@@NickatLateNite I have to do more research on it . The ones I get in my raw material goods are 1 lb .
Thank you so much for all you do for the freeze drying population. You are one of the very few that I trust on youtube.
Of course. We all learn as a group through experiences and sharing.
Over time, I have come to rely on 400cc Oxygen Absorbers as my go to for all my Jars (up to 1/2 Gallon size) & Mylar Bags (up to 1 Gallon size). I got tired of all the Chart Recommendations & decided 400cc Oxygen Absorbers was the Key for me. This has worked out very well, as I only use one size 400cc Oxygen Absorber for all my Jars & Mylar Bags & I know when I use them, they take care of the Oxygen in all of them - Just go with 400cc or 500cc Oxygen Absorbers for everything you do & be done with it & eliminate the guessing & Headaches!!! Note: I do use a Chamber Vacuum Sealer & Oxygen Absorbers as much as possible & Oxygen Absorbers in my Mylar Bags with an Impulse Sealer when I have fragile Food I don't want to Crush!
Great comment
I like your method and think I’m going to go with that too. Thanks!
Must it be used? Even in tiny mylers bags maybe 650 gram of powder?
You are the reason I use a chamber sealer. I used to use the Freeze Dryer to do that but didn't like unhooking and removing the rack in my freeze dryer. I've been happy to have the chamber sealer, but have had a few Qt jars that became "unsealed" in a few days or wouldn't seal at all. A new lid usually fixed the problem. On a couple of occasions I couldn't get jars to seal and decided the rim was faulty so I repurposed the jar for things that don't need sealing. Another time I sealed gusseted bags with resealing strips. I sealed above the strips and a few days later the bags were no longer sucked up. I opened, resealed in something else and tossed all of those bags. Obviously they were defective. I now wait for abouta week before packing my jars and bags away for storage to make sure they are sealed.
I always put the unused OA packets in a jar and chamber seal them to maintain freshness ASAP. The chamber was expensive,but worth every penny!
I use my freeze fryer to vacuum seal my mason jars. Works great.
well harrumph!! I chucked out a bunch of oxygen absorbers because they didnt shrink my mylar bags!!! lol Thankyou for that nugget of brilliance . I did not know that i needed to know all of this information . I just love the simple way you explained the whole de-oxygenating process. :) xxx
Hope this was helpful and maybe it will save you some $ in the future
We love our avid armor sealer. What a difference it made in our preservation.😊
Which model do you have? I see that the one he said he uses is currently $569, but there are a couple other models that are a little more affordable.
@@melissasharp6314 usv20 We got
@@melissasharp6314 we got a deal on it ,using a link with a promo code, a few years ago.
I just love your videos...ALL of them. Have learned so much from you. THANKS! And I LOVE my freeze dryer!
Good info 👍. What I do with extra absorbers is store them in small used Mylar bags and vacuum seal them. 7mil works best. 5 mil will work but most of those have small holes in them after using them once.
Thank you so much for this video. I am frustrated by the manufacturers of the oxygen absorbers not labeling the packets. I opened a box today of some I bought several months ago and can't tell what is what. There is printing all over the front and back sides, so why don't they include useful info like how many CCs they are?
I had a bunch of questions about O2 absorbers I've never seen answered...until now. Nice content!
Awesome! Thank you!
You are amazing. Ty for the education you are giving me.
My pleasure. Glad to get the info out there.
Thank you for this series of videos. Doesnt matter if you have been freeze drying for years or a newbie, theres always something new to learn! Love your products too & yep this reminded me i need to place an order for bags & the parchment sheets I think I cant FD without! 😊.
Very kind words. We appreciate you!
Thank you for a great post! I especially appreciate tip distinguishing between desiccant and O2 packs; most helpful. Keep up the great work!
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So for those that don't understand, if you have a 150 mm (or cm3) jar, a 30cc sachet will be enough
I have used hand warmers inside a plastic sandwich bag as an O2 absorber in my bucket sized bags.
Thank you for the great video, oh how i wished you would say i can go without using them 😅🤭 but for small/tiny mylers shouldn't be a problem 😊
Excellent thanks
Thank you for this series. I’ve learned a tremendous amount of good info! Now if we just get everyone to watch your series and quit giving bad advice in your Facebook group! 🤦♀️🤷♀️
Wow now I need to check mine . I will probably have to order all new ones. Thanks for sharing 👍 😊
Hopefully not, but better safe than sorry they say😁
I have had good luck sealing leftover OAs in a second bag using either my Avid Armor USV32 or my Food Saver. I often keep the Food Saver out next to the Avid Armor just for that purpose. I can do the OAs right away while sealing the food bags.
That's a great idea!
This is not about absorbers but the tray lids. I absolutely love them and could not do without them! When budget allows I plan to buy another set.
Great to hear and thanks for your support!
I also much prefer them to the HR lids that allow the higher tray to slide all over the place. My problem is with the corners occasionally getting so locked on that I have great difficulty getting them off the tray. In fact, I have one that is missing about 6 inches down the side because it broke when I was trying to get it off the tray. Still prefer them, however, and the broken one is reserved for non-liquid product.
I have a chamber vac also. So I reseal the bag of oxygen absorbers in there bag using that. Little extra tid bit. If wanting to use the jar method, you can use the freeze drier to seal the jar
If you have a chamber vac, it's really easy just to put the jar in the chamber
Great video. I received that a id armour vacuum sealer for mother's day and it is my most used appliance. Love it. Thanks for the tips. 👍
I use quart Mason jars about 25% of the time. When I use jars, I use a vacuum sealer function to seal the jars. Do I still need an oxygen absorber in those that are vacuum sealed?
Can I buy the dots to tell me if mine are still good?
I bought individually wrapped ones
Possibly, however, unless the absorber is in an environment free of oxygen, they will not work. If you remove them from the packaging, they start working
Thank you for the education tips.
Our pleasure!
This video is very informative, thank you. I just have a Foodsaver and I add o2 absorbers for dry goods. Someday I hope to buy a freeze dryer. I'd love to experiment with different dishes like you.
Glad it was helpful!
Answers to all my questions! THANKS!
Thank you, new to this! Very helpful 👍🏼
I've always just taken the O2 absorber I need out of the little clear bag then hit it with the impulse sealer to contain the rest. As long as you don't get wrinkles it works fine for me. I've only have one batch not seal and it had a very obvious wrinkle that I never noticed. Putting two or three in an empty jar seems like it would use up more than a flat bag that you can seal right up next to the absorber so it is basically just an individual wrapped packet. Oh yea turn you impulse sealer down to barely on, set to mylar it will just chop of the end of the plastic bag.....which sucks
@@ChrisBaker-pg3ty It does seem much more efficient and smooth when I write it out here. lot less cussing and dried peas rolling across the basement floor in comments i find.😂
Yer a Legend as us Brits say mate.Just about to commit to a small pro ordered direct from here in Edmonton Canada based on yer latest review of the pro
Great vid with great info! Ordered the chamber sealer with your code. Thank you again!
Thank you so much for the information, this was the missing piece to my understanding of the freeze drying process. My Harvest Right runs almost non-stop and I’m always unsure about the correct absorber to use. I currently store in both jars and bags depending on how soon I intend on using the item.
👍Hope this helped
Thank you for all your hard work researching this for us.
My pleasure!
Thank you. I do have a couple of questions.i recently purchased o2 from Wallaby. They are packed on 10 vacuum bags when I open one pouch they are hard already, is this normal? Am i supposed to manipulate them a little to get them soft before I put it in mylar bag? My second question is, can you vacuum chamber seal a 1 gallon maylar bag on the model you showed?
Thank you.
Do you have a video on how to use the armor vacuum sealer with jars? I’ve never tried it with them only with mylar bags. Thanks and love your videos they are so helpful
I have purchases oxygen absorbers with the little dots and they have never changed color. After I used up the packet I set the indicator out on the counter just to see and they have been on the counter for a month and are still nice and pink. Other purchases have their indicators change fairly quickly. Good to have other ways to make sure they are still OK.
Wow! That’s not good at all. Mine turn gray, almost instantly
I'm so happy I found you! I'm planning on getting a freeze dryer and doing my research first
Glad to help out!
Thanks mate! Just did my first batch and was wondering what to do with leftover absorbers.
Sealed them then put in a jar. Had no clue on size or how long they last. Really informative vid. Cheers!
When using your avid avid armor vacuum chamber with a small mason jar like a half pint inside what setting on vacuum time or seconds do you use
Thank you so much I'm new at this and I was worried about what to do with the extras. I ended up using some and now I realize they were done... So I will be using those packages of food ASAP. A learning process Thank you for the helpful information I've watched several of your videos.
Thanks for such great information 👍
Have you heard of the Stayfresh freeze dryers? Thoughts if so.
I have heard of them. I have only used Harvestright for 7 years. I don't have first hand experience on other brands.
How big selaer is inside? Was wondering if it would seal 1 gallon mylar bags
Thank you for those precisions
You bet
so There are expiration dates on the oxygen absorbers. When they come from the manufacturer, are those absolute??
Thanks 👍👍👍
No problem 👍
I greatly appreciate your content! I always learn. I have a question: do you every use the 'vacuum' setting on the Harvest Right to vac seal jars?
Yes. Before I got a vacuum chamber sealer, that is what I used. You can vacuum bags as well with a little trick. I have a video on it.
I did not know about the pink n purple. (HR sent us a box just last month w machine) I notice what's left! Of what we haven't used or opened yet are purple! Idk how many we used that had the purple!
Good morning! We shared this amazing video to our Community tab. Thanks for another great video helping us answer any questions we have about oxygen absorbers!
Thanks for sharing!!
I’m struggling to vacuum seal a 5 gallon Mylar bag. Can you do a video on a solution for that ?
Keep the 5 gallon bag on the ground or table. Add your oxygen absorbers. Now press out remaining oxygen. Lining up top edges of mylar bag. Using a hot straight iron seal the bag closed. Or you can place a bucket on each sides of the bag. Place a piece of wood from one bucket to the other. Put oxygen absorbers into mylar bag squeeze out excess oxygen fold bag over the pice of wood ( like a 7 shape) now iron the top portion of the bag. You will have to play with an extra bag, to find out what setting on your iron works best for you. I hope this helps.
I think I saw a video by Brian on using the FD as a vacuum chamber. Does the 5 gallon bag have a zip closure? You might be able to seal it part way, then use the FD. After it’s done use the impulse sealer. Just a thought. Good luck!
@@eyes2see438thank you !
yea A $30 hair straightening iron is your best bet other than the heavy duty hand held crimp sealers which are $150- $200. I've always been able to get mine to seal with the hair iron so I have never splurged on the heavy duty one. I fill the bag in the bucket (my 5 gal bags are all in buckets) then carefully seal the whole bag except for enough room to get the big o2 absorber in it. It is easier to get the seal wrinkle free if you do it slowly. Once you have all the bags mostly sealed I throw in the Obsorbers and seal the last bit up to finish off.
I'd like you to go into slow versus fast obsorbing oxygen absorbers. Also, why don't you use desiccant bags?
I don't use desiccant pouches because freeze dried food should not have any moisture in it at all before going into storage. If it needs a pouch, it's probably not done. They could be useful for short term in a Mason jar
@@thefreezedryingcommunity What about slow versus fast oxygen aborsbers?
I use my regular vac sealer to reseal OX abs. If the pack is not the right kind of bag I make a new bag and drop the entire other bag in!
Great tip!
Question, what if you're sealing grain, same type and amounts in multiple mylar bags. Then say after using the same pack of oxygen absorbers and same size bag etc some of the bags vacuum pack tightly but others are still loose, and no noticeable damage to the bag or seal. Do the loosely packed bags need to be redone? That's what confuses me the most.
Wow! Just discovered your channel! Thank you for such thorough explanation on everything!! Definitely have been doing some things wrong but thankfully we’re only a month in, lol. Blessings to your family 🙏🏼
You're so welcome!
Thank you for this video! I found this very informative. This video is a huge help! Have a blessed day! Wendy❤️🐞
Glad it was helpful!
How long after you seal the extra OAs up should it take for the indicator to turn back to pink color. Mine have been taking a day or two.
Hey Brian what company does the graphics on your Mylar bag? Looking to do a custom bag for freeze dried candy logo!
I don't think they will work for you. They require a minimum 20,000-30,000 bag order😮
Thanks - great reminder!
Glad it was helpful!
How many small packages I need for a 5 gallon bucket. I put 15 and it shrunk the bucket from two side 😮
question. can i open up my past freezedried bags and insert an additional absorber, and seal it back up for storage? foods that i have dried in the last year?
Thank you, this helped a lot
Glad it helped!
Yep! This answered my questions! Thanks!
You bet!
The mixture inside an oxygen absorber is an iron alloy powder, a little salt, graphite and water. They are basically the same guts as hothands handwarmer packets. A combination oxygen and moisture absorber has aluminum iron alloy graphite and calcium chloride as the salt.
I don’t see the exothermic reaction mentioned in same as comment, sorry forever curious! Good on this gentleman to mention the SAFE INGREDIENT bring Fe un oxidized iron. Looked up what used, I’m guessing use Magnesium Sulfate as cheap hydrophilic ingredient. Can’t imagine people buying things like that to lower humidity until someone I knew did that! I said just bulk but it’s cheaper in product than usual use or chemical supply. I’d prefer to support this man and have convenience than packaging for packaging to package repack. Time is a factor too, don’t store aluminum in nitrates! 💣 What mixture is in those Iron Alloy?
Please link or list chemical source if inexpensive, y’all seem to know this subject, I’m a newbie!
Very informative. Thank you.
You are welcome!
I would assume you vacuum out the oxygen from the container before sealing. You could put nitrogen in the bag or jar. It’s heavier than air and safe for food. They used to sell a small container for wine drinkers . Open you oxygen absorbers and place in a jar of nitrogen.
Great info!
Excellent video!
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If you have a vacuum seal do you have to use an OA?
Great info , I was just looking for this!!!
Hope this was helpful!
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One thing to point out…Not ALL chamber sealers seal Mylar bags. I called my manufacturer to ask them about mine and they said they do not recommend Mylar bags in my chamber vac. Mine is an older one so maybe a mute point for all the newer chamber vacs. I have not done any research on it but next one I buy I will make sure it is capable of sealing Mylar.
You can always vacuum seal and then use an impulse sealer to seal again while still under vacuum.
I quickly use my impulse sealer after my vacuum sealer because my vacuum sealer doesn't quite get hot enough. Plus, redundancy isn't a bad thing.
Thank you for this video! Should I be using OAs in my vacuum sealed jars?
I would if you plan on storing stuff for any length of time. Vacum sealer helps but don't get all the o2 out. if you are puttting stuff like soup with a bit of meat or fats definitely. Stuff like herbs and most vegetables will last quite awhile (like a year at least) if kept in the dark without them.
If you are storing anything for length, I would use oxy absorbers
Great vid
Finally an answer to my question. My oxygen absorbers are hard with packages unopened. Guess they are no good 😟 .
I got the same purchased from Amazon. But when does it he say it I missed that.
I found the info😂
I see a 5 g ad l needs =5 of 300cc in pail.
What are the pros/cons of using your freeze dryer for vacuum n sealing?
You have to remove the seal and rack every time and it is possible to over vacuum and have mason jars explode
I just started using a stayfresh freezedryer; do you know the specs on the kind of pump oil it uses?
Im not familiar with their pumps. You can ask on our Facebook page
GREAT INFO!
Thanks for watching!
With the vacuum chamber, does the food end up crushed so when opened you end up with food powder?
you can adjust vac time
I once contacted Avid they said I didn't an oxygen absorbers with their machine. I use one anyway, but thought that was interesting. I use absorbers with my food Saver attachment, are th ey necessary? Could you do another video using the Harvest Right to vacuum seal, and show us how you use the Avid with Mason jars?
Have you ever tried using triple a steal wool with salt as an oxygen absorber
Thanks for great content! I recently opened my freeze dried food from 4 years ago that was kept in an air tight jar but didn’t add oxygen absorber obviously because I didn’t know about this concept here. Now that I try to reconstitute it (freeze dried eggs to be specific) the consistency is not that great, taste is off and cooks bad. Are all the parameters affected when the FD food is packed without adequate oxygen elimination?
I would be careful consuming food that was not stored properly. If it was not vacuum sealed or didn't have an oxygen absorber, the food could be dangerous to consume.
I’ve heard that there are certain food products (ex. Brown Rice) that you should not use oxygen absorbers with due to the potential risk of the creation of botulism. With that said … is there a list of foods that are safe to use by adding oxygen absorbers to ?
Are you saying you won't see the botulism with the oxygen absorber?
And now a few words, please, on how long to set the chamber sealer to run. Yes, I know the figures in the user manual, but some experienced knowledge for different situations would be helpful.
Also, I used to store unused absorbers in small mylar bags, but found that a small Mason jar is indeed MUCH handier! After all, the chamber sealer is already running.
There is no magic setting, it will depend on your bag type and thickness. I use mine at 30 vac time and 6 seal time. Once vacuumed and sealed, I seal it again with the impulse sealer for good measure.
I am using an Avid Armor 300 but haven’t been using an oxygen absorber. Is that a problem?
I would start using OA's and use what youve alreasy backed first. There's still goong to be some air occupying the space that the water used to occupy in your freeze dried food...
There could still be trace amounts of oxygen in your bagged food. The absorber also gives you a safety net if there is a slow leak in your bag.
Thank you for this video.
My pleasure!
Question…😊 Do you still need to use an oxygen absorber when using a chamber sealer?
Depends who you ask. I say yes
If your vacuum sealing do you need to use an oxygen absorber?
Depends who you ask. I use them in addition to vac sealing.
Do you have to use oxygen absorber on your avid armor chamber vacuum?
It depends who you ask. I always use them.
Unfortunately, your video was only now seen - wishing it was seen a year ago. Last week, I checked on several packages of absorbers that were left in the original packaging and, found every one is rock hard. I contacted the company and received no response. Apparently, that company is too busy to communicate with their patrons. Thank you for your informed videos.
fine steel wool and salt make for homemade oxygen absorbers.
HELP!! Do we use oxygen abs for powdered drink mix?
Like powder gatorade?? Or is that like sugar and doesn't m
Need it?
Sweet tea mix? Lemonade mix?
help!!😊
For that type of powder, you would want a moisture absorbing packet to keep it from clumping
@live.life.simple. And that's it? No oxygen absorber?
In any of the drink mixes? Do they last forever like that?
@@melmelbry5754 if you use an oxygen absorber you will need to keep adding a new one or be sure that it is still functioning every time you take some powder out for use. If fully freeze-dried it can last quite awhile with no absorber
The only issue I see is that vacuum sealing foods in mylar bags that have a sharp edge, such as noodles. The sharp edges or corners will poke a hole in a mylar bag (or FoodSaver bag) and fail. I've even had beans in a bag that failed. I only use the vacuum sealer for meats I intend to deep freeze, and a few dry goods. Are you sure that FD foods have 0% moisture? I was taught that it can be 1-4% moisture.
I'm sure there is a minute amount, but not enough that the naked eye or touching it can detect it. I say "0" more for a.dfamatic effect to get my point across.
Is it ok to put oxygen absorbers in freeze dried fruits and veggies? I heard that you shouldn't and also not in powdered eggs. So we took them out of all our mylar bags that were done.
So can you use a moisture absorber with an oxygen absorber?
I do not use moisture absorbers. If your food has moisture, it is not fully freeze dried. They can be added for short term snacks and food that will be eaten in a few days to help with humidity and things
Long term storage of oxegen absorbers? I thought they had a 1-2 year shelf life even when stored perfectly? I have a bunch and I am afraid to use them. I have used a inverted graduated beaker in water and tested them to determine if they are good but get questionable results. What say ye?
If they work the powder inside will get warm. If the powder inside is crispy and they don't warm up in air they are bad.
Do you have any thoughts on why some OAP's (oxygen absorber packets for those who don't know the acronym) taken out of a new bag (with the freshness dot still pink) and laid out on the kitchen countertop would NOT get hard? Granted, we do live where the humidity is very low, but out of 3 OAP brands tested (Harvest Right, PackFresh, and the LDS store) the first two are still soft and pliable 20 days later, but the LDS packet was hard within (at most) two days. To me, this says the first two were failures, but maybe I'm missing something here? I felt them a couple of times a day and never felt any of the 3 getting warm. Thoughts are appreciated!