777-9s at the right price could work really well for them. They were one of the first 777-300ER operators and it seems to have worked out well for them. Also nice to see the A220 succeeding - it's a really nice plane to travel on. Shame that Bombardier couldn't get the momentum needed to get the orders rolling in themselves, but glad the poor little neglected plane found a nice new home.
Makes sense about the 777-9's. They already have the trained pilots and recert would be much more streamlined for them versus going to the A350 with these pilots. But it also makes sense to have the company you buy from close to home.
They could be a buyer for a small number of A350 ULR aircraft to fly Paris - Sydney to compete against Qantas' Project Sunrise non-stop London - Sydney flights. It may also have the range for Paris - Noumea which would be the longest domestic flight possible.
@@linus284 The immigration queues at Terminal 3 at LHR mean that on some days you can get to central London quicker flying to Paris or Brussels then catching Eurostar. More seriously though, I should have said complement rather than compete as Qantas would probably codeshare on a direct Sydney to Paris flight operated by Air France similarly they probably would codeshare with Lufthansa on a direct Sydney to Frankfurt or Munich flight.
I think Air France will transfer its 787s to KLM. Rumours have been going around for the last few years about it after KLM sent their A350s to Air France. As for the 777-300ERs? Who knows, but it would be nice if they went for Boeing and not become all airbus; not many airlines still operate such a variety of aircraft types in their widebody fleet. I also think that Air France should order A330-800 or -900 to replace their A330-200 and 787-9 (which as I said are likely to go to KLM).
Their A330-200 fleet are getting up there in age 20 years it will be interesting to see if they replace it with the A330-800 Neo same size but more fuel efficient and much more range.
Probably the 330-800neo. The 787-9 it also the other option if they one efficiency since they are also operating the aircraft and it also have more capacity than the 330-200. But I see they haven't have plan for retirement
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What an absolute chaos...so many different types of aircrafts from both boeing and Airbus and most of them are so old! Like, 20 years? Seriously?! I bet the maintenance cost of all that is VERY high😬😬
It's kind of interesting that whilst all these other airlines are brining their 380s back online, ie- Emirates, Etihad, Qatar, Singapore, Qantas, etc, Air France has sent theirs to the boneyards. Do they know something we don't? It's a bit bewildering to me. Did KLM ever have any 380s or did they just have 747s? Maybe KLM might like a couple of Air France's 380s🤔.
As far as I know, Air France didn't maintain their A380s very well. And from what I seen from some flight reviews, it really shows. They never bothered to even upgrade their classes compared to the 777. Another factor could be, in my opinion, is Air France didn't know how to really use their A380s compared to other airlines like Emirates, Singapore Airlines, etc.
i think AF will go for the 350-1000 as the 777X is encountering delays, maybe later on AF will still order the 7x. other point i can mention is its fleet of 330s that is getting too old, AF need to make a plan to replace them (ordering more 787s or 330neo)
I thought the idea was to have it France Airbus only and KLM Boeng? At least, I thought I read this in the French news. I would bet on the A350-1000 as a 777 replacement.
Air France fleet plan: Replace the A330-200 with 15 additional 787-9s. Replace the 777-200ER with A350-900s. Replace the already-retired A380 and older 777-300ERs with an order of 30 777-9X and 12 A350-1000. The 777-9X can replace the 4-class 777-300ER and A380 on high-yield premium routes (JFK, LAX, HND, HKG etc) then the A350-1000 can replace the 3-class 381-seat 777-300ER on secondary low-yield routes. Newer 777-300ERs that will remain in the fleet will be shifted down from CDG to Orly and reconfigured to a high-density 472-seat Carribean configuration.
The A350-1000 would make sense for Air France to replace their 777-200ER and 777-300ER, while at the same time consider to get a modest amount of 777-9 to replace their A380.
Well the 350-900 indicó already replacing the 77-200er. And the 777-9 would be exelent for for 300er since they already have pilot for Boeing and the 787. But yes, the 777-9 could be also good for the 380 replacement in terms of capacity. And I think they would already need more 787 for replace their older 330-200
If Air France need to retain first class (La Premiere) for future widebody order, they need to choose Boeing 777X in order to replace the older Boeing 77W. The Boeing 777X is very suitable for Air France future fleet as it can accomodate 4 class cabin.
I can see Air France replacing their pretty large fleet of A320-200's CEO"s with either NEO versions or A220's....... especially if they can persuade Airbus to stretch it to a "500" version. And the A330's? It would make sense if Air France went for the A330 NEO's, little or no pilot retraining and they're a pretty decent long haul platform and used all over the World.
When you do these videos, there's a massive difference between Western airlines and those of the Middle East. One of the most prominent differences is the age of aircraft in the fleets. The Middle Eastern airlines have much younger aircraft whilst the Western airlines are happy with aircraft to get to the ripe old age of 20-ish years old.
real quick thing the only airline to ever still operate the A318 (i think the only operator left) is air france the airline only has one of them and it still is running in business as i saw on flight radar after checking (edit: mistaken it has 4 or 5 A318's left and still running)
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Also I hoped Air France will get The Airbus A220-500 Series Also side air Baltic & Breeze Airways if they take Interests that is in Buying them then JetBlue Airways,Swissair,Delta Airlines & Air Canada can do that also but I Believe that Airbus will make them long after there A321XLR'S enter into Service in Deliveries to both Airline Carriers across The Globe from 2024 God's Willing but we shall see what happens next for 2023 & 2024.
retiring Air France entire fleet of A380-800 is a big big mistake . . . the French legacy full service carrier should replace it's aging fleet A321-100 & A320 with brand new A321-200 Neo LR, A321-200 Neo XLR & A321-200 Neo . . . A220-300 should replace the oldest of A320-200 . . .
“a318’s are mostly problem free” *proceeds to tell us about major engine issues* “a319’s for Air France are relatively problem free” …. But wait, then does that mean the a318 was not problem free?
777-9s at the right price could work really well for them. They were one of the first 777-300ER operators and it seems to have worked out well for them.
Also nice to see the A220 succeeding - it's a really nice plane to travel on. Shame that Bombardier couldn't get the momentum needed to get the orders rolling in themselves, but glad the poor little neglected plane found a nice new home.
Makes sense about the 777-9's. They already have the trained pilots and recert would be much more streamlined for them versus going to the A350 with these pilots. But it also makes sense to have the company you buy from close to home.
bombardier had some fairly large orders, such as with delta air lines.
They could be a buyer for a small number of A350 ULR aircraft to fly Paris - Sydney to compete against Qantas' Project Sunrise non-stop London - Sydney flights. It may also have the range for Paris - Noumea which would be the longest domestic flight possible.
I don’t know if that would be worth it or if they would want to compete on that route with Qantas, a long time partner
Why should Paris - Sydney compete with London - Sydney?
@@linus284 The immigration queues at Terminal 3 at LHR mean that on some days you can get to central London quicker flying to Paris or Brussels then catching Eurostar. More seriously though, I should have said complement rather than compete as Qantas would probably codeshare on a direct Sydney to Paris flight operated by Air France similarly they probably would codeshare with Lufthansa on a direct Sydney to Frankfurt or Munich flight.
There's a bunch of Aeroflot bound A350s sitting around waiting for pickup...
@@drkntetas Possibly it would be better to let Ukraine International Airlines have those as reparations after Aeroflot has paid for them.
I think Air France will transfer its 787s to KLM. Rumours have been going around for the last few years about it after KLM sent their A350s to Air France. As for the 777-300ERs? Who knows, but it would be nice if they went for Boeing and not become all airbus; not many airlines still operate such a variety of aircraft types in their widebody fleet. I also think that Air France should order A330-800 or -900 to replace their A330-200 and 787-9 (which as I said are likely to go to KLM).
Airfrance has the most interesting and wide range of aircraft in its fleet among the big airlines
I think Lufthansa has the most interesting fleet
The Lufthansa Group in total basically flies every widebody besides the A380
Their A330-200 fleet are getting up there in age 20 years it will be interesting to see if they replace it with the A330-800 Neo same size but more fuel efficient and much more range.
Probably the 330-800neo. The 787-9 it also the other option if they one efficiency since they are also operating the aircraft and it also have more capacity than the 330-200. But I see they haven't have plan for retirement
Airbus A350 is amazing.
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I can see Air France operating both a350-1000s and 777X in the future
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He hey I’m from Singapore too
A321XLR. That's the model Airbus must include keeping in mind the present scenario of rising fuel prices.
Can you do one on Scandinavian Airlines please?
What an absolute chaos...so many different types of aircrafts from both boeing and Airbus and most of them are so old! Like, 20 years? Seriously?! I bet the maintenance cost of all that is VERY high😬😬
It will be a tough choice to make between the A350-1000s and Boeing 777Xs.
It's kind of interesting that whilst all these other airlines are brining their 380s back online, ie- Emirates, Etihad, Qatar, Singapore, Qantas, etc, Air France has sent theirs to the boneyards. Do they know something we don't? It's a bit bewildering to me. Did KLM ever have any 380s or did they just have 747s? Maybe KLM might like a couple of Air France's 380s🤔.
KLM never operated the A380
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As far as I know, Air France didn't maintain their A380s very well. And from what I seen from some flight reviews, it really shows. They never bothered to even upgrade their classes compared to the 777. Another factor could be, in my opinion, is Air France didn't know how to really use their A380s compared to other airlines like Emirates, Singapore Airlines, etc.
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i think AF will go for the 350-1000 as the 777X is encountering delays, maybe later on AF will still order the 7x. other point i can mention is its fleet of 330s that is getting too old, AF need to make a plan to replace them (ordering more 787s or 330neo)
I thought the idea was to have it France Airbus only and KLM Boeng? At least, I thought I read this in the French news. I would bet on the A350-1000 as a 777 replacement.
I think Air France is eyeing the A350-1000 to start replacing the 777-300ER's after 2026.
They haven't think about it yet thought
The A330-800/-900 neos are the ones Air France should look at closely.
Air France fleet plan:
Replace the A330-200 with 15 additional 787-9s.
Replace the 777-200ER with A350-900s.
Replace the already-retired A380 and older 777-300ERs with an order of 30 777-9X and 12 A350-1000. The 777-9X can replace the 4-class 777-300ER and A380 on high-yield premium routes (JFK, LAX, HND, HKG etc) then the A350-1000 can replace the 3-class 381-seat 777-300ER on secondary low-yield routes. Newer 777-300ERs that will remain in the fleet will be shifted down from CDG to Orly and reconfigured to a high-density 472-seat Carribean configuration.
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The A350-1000 would make sense for Air France to replace their 777-200ER and 777-300ER, while at the same time consider to get a modest amount of 777-9 to replace their A380.
Well the 350-900 indicó already replacing the 77-200er. And the 777-9 would be exelent for for 300er since they already have pilot for Boeing and the 787. But yes, the 777-9 could be also good for the 380 replacement in terms of capacity. And I think they would already need more 787 for replace their older 330-200
If Air France need to retain first class (La Premiere) for future widebody order, they need to choose Boeing 777X in order to replace the older Boeing 77W. The Boeing 777X is very suitable for Air France future fleet as it can accomodate 4 class cabin.
AF should go for the A350-1000, almost the same size as the 777-9X but with more range, and similar capacity, Boeing has been failing a lot lately.
The 777-9 has almost 50 more seats than the a35k
I can see Air France replacing their pretty large fleet of A320-200's CEO"s with either NEO versions or A220's....... especially if they can persuade Airbus to stretch it to a "500" version.
And the A330's? It would make sense if Air France went for the A330 NEO's, little or no pilot retraining and they're a pretty decent long haul platform and used all over the World.
I would like to see Air France replace their 777-300ERs with the 777x some time in the 2030s.
Do air serbia next pls
Their fleet is very small
@@JAYfromTHEworld i ment their whole fleet history from 1927
When you do these videos, there's a massive difference between Western airlines and those of the Middle East. One of the most prominent differences is the age of aircraft in the fleets. The Middle Eastern airlines have much younger aircraft whilst the Western airlines are happy with aircraft to get to the ripe old age of 20-ish years old.
real quick thing
the only airline to ever still operate the A318 (i think the only operator left) is air france
the airline only has one of them and it still is running in business as i saw on flight radar after checking
(edit: mistaken it has 4 or 5 A318's left and still running)
The A380 was the best aircraft in the previous years, In 2021 Airbus had Announced that A380 production will stop and today many of the carriers using the A380 have retired the Jumbo/Quadjet and only emirates has most of the A380 being used. Farewell to the A380 Quadjet Like this and comment "Farewell" To The A380 If the A380 is your Favorite Aircraft
I think the 777-9 could replace the 777-300ERs.
Also I hoped Air France will get The Airbus A220-500 Series Also side air Baltic & Breeze Airways if they take Interests that is in Buying them then JetBlue Airways,Swissair,Delta Airlines & Air Canada can do that also but I Believe that Airbus will make them long after there A321XLR'S enter into Service in Deliveries to both Airline Carriers across The Globe from 2024 God's Willing but we shall see what happens next for 2023 & 2024.
Very diverse. Much like United airlines
retiring Air France entire fleet of A380-800 is a big big mistake . . . the French legacy full service carrier should replace it's aging fleet A321-100 & A320 with brand new A321-200 Neo LR, A321-200 Neo XLR & A321-200 Neo . . . A220-300 should replace the oldest of A320-200 . . .
Suggest you take the time to pronounce Air Careïbes. Otherwise cool
“a318’s are mostly problem free” *proceeds to tell us about major engine issues* “a319’s for Air France are relatively problem free” …. But wait, then does that mean the a318 was not problem free?
777/787 are the way too go
Depending of what they one
Narrator face reveal. I always wondered what he looks like.
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I didn’t like working the Airbus fleet they are always broken
They should add more 787s, like the 9 and 10 models. 777x won't be out until 2024.
air france 16th a330 200 crashed as af 447
Bye A380 :( another one down
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