Looking at our club, we've got immense potential, not only as a squad (whether it be through the academy or just young players we sign) but as a club in general, but it just seems we content ourselves with being a mid-table championship side. These last few years in particular have been rough, unstable management (imo) ever since the departure of Lee Johnson, not capitalizing enough in games that we should, and just failure to break out of this vicious cycle. We have great players right now, some examples being Tommy Conway, who came through the academy and a player who i'm sure we'll just end up selling as I dont see him wanting to spend his prime years at a mid-table championship team (even though its's the only team he's ever played for), nakhi wells, who even as an older player is still that much needed veteran presence and still a good striker and even joe williams whos a decent midfielder when he's on his day. Everything you said is true, even though a part of me wants to disagree and I want to thank you for highlighting our club by doing a video on us (smth that's not done often) even if it's pointing out our negatives. However, I do see ourselves being promoted into the prem in the next 10 years (more hoping tbh) even though we'll probably come right back down, as that would be an amazing achievement for the club, fans and even the city in itself. Sorry for the long comment, but I have finally been able to pour out some of my thoughts on our situation + I know this is a safe space when it comes to just talking about football. Rest of good day to anyone reading this. CITY TILL I DIE ❤
Thank you for this comment mate, really helps to get proper insight into the club to add to the video Wish you guys well, I feel like it’s only inevitable that you guys will get it right, your academy is great!
We went from not losing after 90 mins against West Ham and N. Forest to losing to Sheffield Wednesday and QPR. We are a really, really good club... when it comes to being incredibly inconsistent / unpredictable.
From 1923 to 1970, Bournemouth spent 40 consecutive seasons in division 3, which is kind of crazy. Especially when you think about the amount of historical events that happened between these years.
as a Bristol rovers fan, it's bittersweet seeing these lot be called the most boring club in the country... but we haven't been in the championship for 32 years
To be honest only thing keeping you lot out the conversation instead of us is your league 2 and national league stints. Look at your league 1 positions and it’s just as depressing as our championship ones mate
You lot would enjoy the championship cause you’ll be the plucky underdogs that haven’t spent more than 300k on a player and have the lowest budget in the league. we aren’t underdogs we aren’t the lowest budget and we aren’t the smallest team in the league so finishing midtable isn’t a achievement whereas for you lot it’s exciting as you’ve never been there
Could be worse. I've witnessed my team fold & re-establish itself in 2014. Fast forward to present day and they're two promotions from EFL League 2! Football is just like that, unfortunately.
@@liams4411 Im somerset born a raised, I support Chelsea but follow Yeovil, Exeter and Bristol City. I go to many Yeovil games but still support Chelsea
Bristol city fan- since and during covid you’re deffo right. But our first 5 seasons were not boring. The end table brings a false sense of how the season went. 16/17 finished 17th but 3 points from relegation. 17/18 playoff battle up until end of april (2nd on Boxing Day). 18/19 in the playoff battle for 80% of season. 19/20 playoff battle till covid hits (7th when it hit)
9:55 As someone who lives in Bristol this is exactly the case, there are so many more people in the area who support any other English team rather than City or Rovers, it's quite nuts.
Quality vid as always brother. I've been to a few City games and the crowd are always great. If they get the right coaches, staff and players there's big potential for the club! One day those stars may align and we'll keep dreaming of that day until they do 😂
Thanks very much for this video, I think you really nailed a lot of the problems Bristol City is facing at the moment and that if we could only get ourselves sorted out then we can finally realise our potential and become a serious contender for the top flight. I would debate your suggestion that we've been a boring team for the last 20 years though. There's been plenty of great memories from when I started going to matches about 2003 until just before Covid hit. The ones that come to mind: - Getting promoted from League One in 2007 (being part of the pitch invasion remains by best football memory.) - The play-off final at Wembley against Hull in 2008. - The horrible 2012/3 season where we ended up dead last in the Championship (I didn't say all these memories were positive!) - Winning League One and the FA Trophy in 2015- I think that was the first time we'd ever won that particular league? - Having a hard relegation scrap in 2016, only for us to rip the roof off during the calendar year of 2017. That year ended with us beating Man U in the League Cup and going to the semi-finals against Man City. - The playoff push in 2018/9 where we missed out on the final day of the season (the 8th place you mentioned in the video.) It's only really in the last 5 years that things have got really dull. We got absolutely nowhere under Pearson and played totally anonymous football. While we're not unique in having to sell our best players, so much of the money made from those big sales was never really reinvested into the squad. Add that to some iffy recruitment of mediocre players to replace the big hitters and we've never really been able to hit the level that you need to make a proper push for promotion. At least so far under Manning we've been having a real go against the teams at the top of the league and got some big results such as against Southampton a couple of months ago. As bleak as it's been recently I still believe eventually it's going to click and we'll finally start living up to our potential... maybe in the next 50 years or so. COYR
I grew up local to Bristol and really close to semi-pro football where every weekend I’d go to grounds all around the south west with my dad as a coach. It surprises me that the city doesn’t have a top flight club as football is genuinely huge around here and there are so many clubs around. Growing up, Bristol Rovers was the academy everyone had trials at but I don’t know anyone that made it. I think, in fairness, Bristol being so close to places like Cardiff, Bath & Gloucester where Rugby is huge could have a lot to do with the priorities of a certain city club chairman 👀
you are right with the league performances, however, there have been some exciting cup runs that have kept things exciting - beating Jose's Utd in the carabao QF was the best Bristol City game I ever saw!
beautiful stadium too, living in germany now but coming back to bristol over christmas and going to two games was incredible, missed it a lot, miraculously seen 2 wins too
I’m a Hull City fan, I remember the play off final with Bristol. Their fans were great that day, met quite a few before and on the way to the game - good friendly people. 👍
Actually we had to win at Brighton on the penultimate game of 2016-17 to guarantee safety. The 2017-18 season was exciting, reaching the league cup semi finals. Then in 2018-19 we went into our last game still with a chance of the playoffs. Our dullness only really started around the time of COVID, and there’s no sign of things getting any better soon. Im amazed we’re still attracting the crowds we are, given the tedious dross served up on the pitch.
well done again, love these type of videos that give a great glimpse into the lower leagues, as i'm not too familiar with the plight of some of them, like the scunthorpe story for example. Would absolutely love to pick your brains on Bradford as a club lately they just seem to be sticking as is last few seasons
The fact that I got excited from seeing a video about Bristol City even though it's very negative shows how boring we are. This is the first time I've seen us mentioned by someone who isn't a Bristol City or one of our rivals on the internet
Love the videos! Would love one on exeter city - last fully fan owned club in the uk, first team to ever play a Brazilian international team - along with loads of great history and an interesting modern age too
City fan and yeah this video pretty much sums us up ive never seen a bristol derby in our lifetime and tbh hope for a season in league one just to see that derby plus i believe our team just needs a full reset. also to reply to what you said at the end i'd definetely describe bristol as a rugby city and the football fans i do know are mainly man u or liverpool fans
As a young Bristol city fan, almost every game I’ve been to this season in the championship, I haven’t felt a lot of passion from the players at times. Take the game against Swansea for example the other week. I was there with my mate and I think the entire lansdown stand agreed that the first half was one of the worst we’d ever seen. The was no passion or drive from the players, it looked like they’d given up on breaking their 4 game losing streak. But then in the second half we came alive again and played so much better. We went on to score and the game finished 1-0 to us. But that first half seemed to lack the drive and passion that you need as a football team. But a few weeks prior when I went to the FA cup match against West Ham, with all the odds against us we won 1-0 and Ashton gate was going mad. The players were so passionate, driven and committed to beating a much bigger opponent that it shows what we can do when we really try. Obviously it’s hard to replicate that feeling every 46 games in the league but I think if we can get that drive back, we do have the chance to get to the playoffs. It would also help if we actually spent our money on buying new players instead of just keeping it 😂
For me I’m actually happy where we are, we have some good days, some bad days and I like the championship. It’s a good standard but genuinely interesting as teams can go on a run and suddenly shoot up the table or plummet. Personally, I do have other fans ask but I wouldn’t actually want to go up, I know that sounds a bit small minded but whilst it would be a huge achievement in reality we’d just be tanked every week and face the potential that we’d go down far less stable with much bigger debt than we have right now. Plus we’d probably have to do a Forest and buy a whole new team, so that’s no longer the team that we’ve supported to get up there, suddenly it’s just 11 random lads who may or may not do better. So I’m happy where we are. I’ve also argued with plenty of Man City and Newcastle fans who say “oh you’re jealous and you’d love to have this money” and they just don’t get that no, I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t want to lose the identity of my club. Some fans just can’t get their heads around there’s more to football than winning the Prem League and becoming European champions, actually supporting a club you have a massive connection with and enjoying that connection can mean far more.
I would love to see them do well. I’ve had a really nice time when I’ve gone to games there and they have really nice fans. They’re my grandad’s local team to. I think if/when they get to the premier league the local interest will help them a lot, but in a way they need that now to get them there
As a season ticket holder it is interesting to see an outsiders perspective on our club and our complete lack of success. I agree that we don’t really know what’s going wrong and are just waiting on a big season with a bit of luck and a good run in, yet I think you did miss the mark a touch on our lack of play off attempts. Especially in 17/18, we were 2nd at Christmas and beating wolves at home until a red card which we then collapsed. That entire season was oh so close to promotion but our terrible end of season form made us finish 11th which doesn’t paint the picture at all. The next 2 seasons also saw hard play off pushes that just came up short so to say we’ve never had hopes of play offs I think was a touch wrong but really interesting video otherwise
I’m a Bristol city fan and this is pretty accurate, always so much optimism with our academy and the players we have but we never capitalise on it and always seem a yard behind, we have the infrastructure for the premier league but just can’t seem to get there, always so inconsistent. I love the vids tho and someone actually did a vid on us 😂
What I find amusing is you start off at Swindon Town, then go up 20 or 30 miles to Bristol City, another hop up to Cheltenham Town, then a bit further to Evesham Town. They all play in red or red stripes and they are all nicknamed The Robins.
I follow them now due to my girlfriend being born and raised from Bristol and I had no idea they were so mid table. They have the potential to pick up all the top talent coming through in the south west really. Their academy is really impressive also I didn't know it was so prodyctive until you listed all these sales.
As a Palace supporter I definitely see some similarities between Bristol City and us. Obviously it’s better that we’re stuck in mid-table to lower-mid-table in the Premier League rather than the Championship, but the situations are still similar. Even down to the rivalry situation, since we’ve been in different divisions than Brighton for many seasons in the last couple decades (tho thankfully it looks like our rivalry will have some staying power in the PL now). I’d love to see more success for Bristol City, it’s too big a town not to have a top tier club, and I’ve always like their badge and stadium.
As a city fan I've been going to games since I was 6 with my dad, now 24 and although not having promotion/relegation could be 'boring' knowing that every game theres a chance when you pay for a ticket week in week out is why I love watching championship football, good enough quality in every game and having those cheeky cup runs we always seem to land against prem sides some proper good memories. But completely agree with a lot in this video. We have to do better. To see us go into the prem with my dad would be unforgettable, im sure im not alone.
I went to Bristol City about 20 years ago, they were playing Sheffield Wednesday. It was a 1-1 draw (I think), I remember the mass brawl among the fans after the game more than the match.
I wish you went deeper into our history and current levels because it’s an Interesting story of being the underdogs but never capitalising when we become the favourites
As a Bristol city fan from Canada. (My dad’s from Bristol) It’s always been so frustrating as we have pulled off some very good performances in the cups against big teams, but fail to beat the teams were expected to win against. I just don’t understand how we lost narrowly to one of the best sides ever in the league cup semis in 2018, but then finish mid table in the championship the same season.
A finish of 11th in the 2nd tier. Impressive reliability with northern counterparts Preston at 12th. These clubs have earned some kind of Steady Eddie trophy.
Millwall in the Premier League would absolutely seed chaos everywhere. I would absolutely be up for it. Especially considering the amount of rivalries they have. West Ham, Crystal Palace, Leeds United, Everton, Chelsea, etc.
I’ve been a STH down at Bristol City for 8 seasons now. There was 3 seasons in a row (2017/18, 18/19 and 19/20) where there was a real buzz around the club and we had a real chance of playoffs but wasn’t really to be. 17/18 we were 2nd on NYE and in the Semis in the Carabo Cup, but had the team was picking itself due to injuries which wasn’t sustainable and our form nosedived. 18/19 we were really gunning for it but we had a few bad decisions in the last few games against us and sort of internally collapsed. Then 19/20 we were 7th going into COVID with a real chance and it felt like we were at the start of a run (as at the time we had a special ability to either win 10 in a row or lose 10 in a row without much in between) but then covid hit and I think we won 1 game out of the last 9. Since then really it seemed like we had a project under Nigel Pearson and were making progress on the pitch with a young, exciting team that was being strengthened year on year. But the board inexplicably sacked him after loosing to Cardiff with only 8 fit first team players and got in Manning, it kind of seems a bit stagnant now under him and there is now a real sense of flatness on and off the pitch.
My first football game was Bristol City vs Chesterfield back in 2015. They got promoted that season and they had some ballers like Tammy Abraham, Luke Ayling and others
As a robin this was a good watch, , lansdown is very tight with money so when we sell big we see little back, only real hope is say we have atm is another boring season and we go into the market for an attacker who can finish their dinner, we’ve stocked up in defence and midfield for now and the foreseeable future… for now 💴
nice video I'm a city fan and i totally agree. every season we get to about the halfway mark and already it feels like we have nothing to play for. It's pretty depressing and so boring and you just feel like the whole club just needs some excitement
Been there. From 2005 (when the money properly ran out under Joe Royle) until relegation in 2019, Ipswich's league positions were: 15th, 14th, 8th, 9th, 15th, 13th, 15th, 14th, 9th, 6th, 7th, 16th, 12th, 24th (R)
Cool vid. I’ve moved here from Leicester 6yrs ago and sadly I feel like the crowd is a little bit shit and never gets too excited like they all know they’ll finish 12th. People say the owners prioritise the rugby (played on same ground) and it is a fairly rich city where maybe the community favours that too.
I remember the season when Bristol City finished 8th. It really felt like they were getting close to a possible promotion or at least a playoffs final. Then everything just went back to the same sort of mid season performance. Bristol as a city is for sure a sleeping giant in my view. The city itself is actually one of the more decent cities in the south and has great night life. I would say that the football culture is definitely there, it is just a little tired from having the same boring seasons and no derby games. Especially when you remember the season they finished 8th and how close they felt to having a legit product that could gain promotion. Swindon Town is possibly the only other club in the area with much of a history and I mean I guess even Swindon have played in the Premier League, so yeah it feels kinda weird to have such a booming city that is pretty well established and has it's culture, and to not see the football finally get it's time. I kind of lost hope for them really over the last few years. Very samey each year. One thing is for sure though, if Bristol did get promoted to the Prem, I believe they would realise what they are supposed to be and stay up. The fanbase is there. They have a fairly new modern ground to go with it. Just need to play better football I suppose and earn it.
As an older (48) Bristol City fan, I'm just happy that we're not spending most of our days playing teams like Mansfield and Notts County in the third tier like we did in the 80s, 90s and 2000s. 😆
@@paulgelsthorpe3712 Yeah I was there with my dad and brother. No offense to Mansfield fans, Notts County fans or whoever but Bristol is in the top 10 largest cities in England and we've never had a team to match this size in over 100 years of football history.
I live in Bristol and grew up in the south west (although not a City fan) and as a region it really is the dullest place for football. Bristol City are the most frustrating team in this neck of the woods as they have the scale and infrastructure to achieve but never do anything!
Bristol City, and potentially Rovers, have a huge potential since they are not a lot of professional teams in that part of England. Bristol has a huge area of potential supporters who would be interested in attending premier league games
I would say for a boring club they do have some enthusiastic fans, although when have a population of 800,000 and are the only major club for over a million people in the sorrounding area, and have just 2 clubs, having 20,000 nutters especially in the west country feels almost a low amount.
Palace fan. Lived near Bristol between 2014-2019 so went to a couple of their games every season. I’ve probably seen more goals conceded in the last 15 minutes than some fans during their lifetime. I’m 29.
It’s hard but I just think that rivers are good how they are but I obviously have to admit city have more success but river is the original Bristol club and has more of passionate fans
@@Somersetballmapping Rovers claim of having more passionate fans is really just a myth. There’s no reliable way of quantifying “passion” other than the number of fans through the turnstiles. I’d argue that both clubs have a hard core loyal following as well as the usual hangers on and fair weather supporters, but you can’t argue with the statistics.
Im from a little town in the south west, growing up the only real options were Rovers, City or Yeovil town. And honestly all three were so unappealing to me as a child that i ended up supporting Arsenal simply because my Grandad did. That and my dad is a Norwich fan 😅 OTBC
Been a fan for 40 years, my lad is 14 now and ive brought him to games since he was a lad,, i had the same optimism then that he has now, but we are no closer to a season in the prem now than we were then,,, and i cant believe at this point that i will live to see it happen. Just decades of average management, average signings, average ownership, average everything.
Blackburn fan- always getting slagged off for lower than should be attendances but won the obvious one on 02 league cup and we will actually rise again
Yeah that’s fair enough, same pain in that aspect, only difference is you are in the top league, an awful lot of us city fans would love to be in the prem even just for one season, firstly because we have never been there before but more importantly we get to see some of the best teams not only in EPL but in Europe compete against us, home and away, to be able to have the likes of Man City Man Utd arsenal Chelsea spurs and many others come to gate all in the same season would be fantastic, you get that privilege every season
Palace as a club are overachieving by finishing 14th in the Prem, like Vizeh said at least they have done entertaining players. The issue with Palace is banter culture and the new Prem fans, they didn't know what Palace have been like historically, they just see them as the mid table Prem club while the older fans who are British will still see them as the club who used to nearly go out of business every decade
I've been to many City games over the years, but I genuinely haven't been bored by any of the games I've seen. Very often some late drama, always something happening, usually a decent crowd (at least at Ashton Gate). But yes, their mediocre position in the league is always depressing to see
I follow boston united Since promotion to national north in 2010, we've not gone up or down. Have only come remotely close to relegation twice, had 2 playoff finals and 3 semi finals. Only 1 half decent cup run in 2019 (4 wins) Most of the time we're upper midtable but never challenging for the title. 14 seasons going nowhere with virtually no cup runs. Haven't beaten a higher league side since 2010. Lost to countless lower league sides Don't really have any derby games (only last 3 or 4 years have we even had away games within 50 miles).
Mate honestly all we do is just pass the ball backwards and expect to score goals. But when we do play it forward we look great.we are so inconsistent with our football and consistent finishing 14th
We are Bristol City fans and this speaks to our soul. So many seasons doing nothing, steve cotterel aside. One relegation in last 25 years is not an achievement but the hallmark of a lack of ambition. Landsdown has done a lot for the club but, as the majority are coming to understand, he is not the one to take us further. We are not sure what the solution is; but we hope for more excitement soon.
Been saying this for a few years! The only reason I remember them in league 1 was because I went to their ground that season for an away match and it was the only time I saw us (QPR) lose (unbeaten at home), beyond tha, I think of them as the most permenently mid-table championship side going.
Im a Bristol City fan and you're right.There are 2 leagues in the Championship: those with parachute payments and those with out. The likes of Bristol City, Birmingham, Stoke have much less income. But all Championship clubs cant lose 13 mil a year for Fair Play Rules. We have been losing 20 mil a year in a bid to compete with higher wages of the the parachute teams who get vast parachute money (in comparison) for 3 years. The gap is getting harder. More fans come through the door with a good run. Also remember in covid our chairman had to maintain a staff of approx 2000 for 2 years with empty seats. He's been good overall but we wait for better times.
As a Bristol city supporter, I think you were too generous! I get more excitement playing with them on Pro Evo 2021! I got them into the champions league on there!!
Agree with everything here. We’re just a selling club now. Produce or develop good players and sell them on to prem teams pretty much tells you our ambitions. We know we won’t go down but we won’t get to the promised land either. Best we did is when Johnson was with us and we’d find ourselves in top 3 before Christmas then drop down to 12th a couple seasons in a row. Also the fact our owner is so invested in the rugby team as well
Having supported bcfc for 40 years and I have watched them come close to being bankrupt chasing the top league a fair few times so I’m happy for my bcfc to be sustainable. The ground cost a fortune and looks great and they produce great talent so they are in a good place. We need to thank Lansdowne for this and appreciate what he has done
As a Bristol City fan who lives in Somerset, I can tell you that the area is extremely football passionate yet we can never as a club find quite the right balance. I expevted to feel offended but I agree completely woth everything
Nice video but you failed to mention the owner Steve Lansdown who has a net worth of over 2.5 Billion USD and also owns Finance investment firm Hargreaves and Lansdown. A local man born and raised in South Bristol. Simply put, Bristol City has one of the wealthiest owners in the UK.
A video on Crystal Palace (the most boring club in the PL) would be interesting. Their current spell started off exciting: finishing 11th after a god awful start in their first season under Tony Pulis, then finishing a record-high 10th and reaching an FA cup final under Alan Pardew. But since then, NOTHING but lower-mid table mediocrity
As someone from Bristol, I've always supported Man UTD but I felt like I should support a home team as a second team so I chose Bristol City, did't know anything about them but in hindsight I should of probably chosen Rovers, there not as good but definitely interesting. I'm not gonna switch teams, better to be loyal.
Looking at our club, we've got immense potential, not only as a squad (whether it be through the academy or just young players we sign) but as a club in general, but it just seems we content ourselves with being a mid-table championship side. These last few years in particular have been rough, unstable management (imo) ever since the departure of Lee Johnson, not capitalizing enough in games that we should, and just failure to break out of this vicious cycle. We have great players right now, some examples being Tommy Conway, who came through the academy and a player who i'm sure we'll just end up selling as I dont see him wanting to spend his prime years at a mid-table championship team (even though its's the only team he's ever played for), nakhi wells, who even as an older player is still that much needed veteran presence and still a good striker and even joe williams whos a decent midfielder when he's on his day. Everything you said is true, even though a part of me wants to disagree and I want to thank you for highlighting our club by doing a video on us (smth that's not done often) even if it's pointing out our negatives. However, I do see ourselves being promoted into the prem in the next 10 years (more hoping tbh) even though we'll probably come right back down, as that would be an amazing achievement for the club, fans and even the city in itself. Sorry for the long comment, but I have finally been able to pour out some of my thoughts on our situation + I know this is a safe space when it comes to just talking about football. Rest of good day to anyone reading this. CITY TILL I DIE ❤
Thank you for this comment mate, really helps to get proper insight into the club to add to the video
Wish you guys well, I feel like it’s only inevitable that you guys will get it right, your academy is great!
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We went from not losing after 90 mins against West Ham and N. Forest to losing to Sheffield Wednesday and QPR. We are a really, really good club... when it comes to being incredibly inconsistent / unpredictable.
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@@XolonogamerWest Ham in a nutshell mate, beat Arsenal and United but lose to Bristol City any other day. 😂 hope you lads get promoted.
I think it's quite telling that my reaction upon seeing this video was not being pissed off but rather 'Cool, someone's actually done a video on us'
To be fair with the Bristol City fans I know, they’d be first to admit this is the case
My exact response
Me too
Condolences to Preston for missing out on this award
They tried their best believe me
This yeae preston is finally on the up seems like
@@jonathanfrimerman8855 are they heck, they do this every year just to finish mid table
Least they had some good playoff runs in 2000s
We're always bang average at least Bristol get relegation battles every now and then
As a Bristol city fan I'm shocked and appalled that I agree with everything you said.
Love that😂
@@Vizeh do the griddy man come on.... do it ....
Wish you were boring when you smashed us earlier in the season.
PAFC
@@thejannerofplymouth3654 unfortunately the boring-ness comes and goes. At least you got to see us not be boring against Southampton too
@@thejannerofplymouth3654ah, to remember how it feels to win a game 😢😂
From 1923 to 1970, Bournemouth spent 40 consecutive seasons in division 3, which is kind of crazy. Especially when you think about the amount of historical events that happened between these years.
Oh wow! Great shout!
1923 to 1970 is 47 years. Where were they for the missing 7 years?
Guessing no seasons during WWII @@apathyintheuk265
@@apathyintheuk265World War 2
@@whatdoyoumean6357 Never heard of it.
as a Bristol rovers fan, it's bittersweet seeing these lot be called the most boring club in the country... but we haven't been in the championship for 32 years
We seriously need you guys to step up or City to take the hit just so we can see a Bristol Derby again
To be honest only thing keeping you lot out the conversation instead of us is your league 2 and national league stints. Look at your league 1 positions and it’s just as depressing as our championship ones mate
You lot would enjoy the championship cause you’ll be the plucky underdogs that haven’t spent more than 300k on a player and have the lowest budget in the league. we aren’t underdogs we aren’t the lowest budget and we aren’t the smallest team in the league so finishing midtable isn’t a achievement whereas for you lot it’s exciting as you’ve never been there
Could be worse. I've witnessed my team fold & re-establish itself in 2014. Fast forward to present day and they're two promotions from EFL League 2!
Football is just like that, unfortunately.
@@w00llee14Hereford?
Love your content on the lower leagues. Just goes to show that the premier league isn't the only league in the country.
Cheers pal, doing a video on a club in Germany soon!
@@Vizeh Looking forward to it.
@Vizeh i never thought i would be as interested in it as i am now. Youre incredible mate, keep it up
Yes, great video!
Seems like Bristol City have taken Coventry’s crown
I’d love to defend us but you’re not wrong at all
I’m sorry it’s come to this
Thinking about it it’s crazy how much the West Country underperforms at Football
Bristol has a city is a sleeping giant for me, such a huge catchment area too
Neutrals generally prefer Rugby to Football and the ones who do prefer Football tend to support Man Utd or Liverpool.
@@liams4411 Im somerset born a raised, I support Chelsea but follow Yeovil, Exeter and Bristol City. I go to many Yeovil games but still support Chelsea
@Vizeh lots of non league sides span the area. They also have a city rival. They all get some great loans though.
Bristol is not a football city
Bristol city fan- since and during covid you’re deffo right. But our first 5 seasons were not boring. The end table brings a false sense of how the season went. 16/17 finished 17th but 3 points from relegation. 17/18 playoff battle up until end of april (2nd on Boxing Day). 18/19 in the playoff battle for 80% of season. 19/20 playoff battle till covid hits (7th when it hit)
9:55 As someone who lives in Bristol this is exactly the case, there are so many more people in the area who support any other English team rather than City or Rovers, it's quite nuts.
Quality vid as always brother.
I've been to a few City games and the crowd are always great. If they get the right coaches, staff and players there's big potential for the club! One day those stars may align and we'll keep dreaming of that day until they do 😂
Wish you best lad! I do feel like Bristol is a real sleeping giant of a city and region, I think it’s more of a when than if for you guys!
Thanks very much for this video, I think you really nailed a lot of the problems Bristol City is facing at the moment and that if we could only get ourselves sorted out then we can finally realise our potential and become a serious contender for the top flight. I would debate your suggestion that we've been a boring team for the last 20 years though. There's been plenty of great memories from when I started going to matches about 2003 until just before Covid hit. The ones that come to mind:
- Getting promoted from League One in 2007 (being part of the pitch invasion remains by best football memory.)
- The play-off final at Wembley against Hull in 2008.
- The horrible 2012/3 season where we ended up dead last in the Championship (I didn't say all these memories were positive!)
- Winning League One and the FA Trophy in 2015- I think that was the first time we'd ever won that particular league?
- Having a hard relegation scrap in 2016, only for us to rip the roof off during the calendar year of 2017. That year ended with us beating Man U in the League Cup and going to the semi-finals against Man City.
- The playoff push in 2018/9 where we missed out on the final day of the season (the 8th place you mentioned in the video.)
It's only really in the last 5 years that things have got really dull. We got absolutely nowhere under Pearson and played totally anonymous football. While we're not unique in having to sell our best players, so much of the money made from those big sales was never really reinvested into the squad. Add that to some iffy recruitment of mediocre players to replace the big hitters and we've never really been able to hit the level that you need to make a proper push for promotion. At least so far under Manning we've been having a real go against the teams at the top of the league and got some big results such as against Southampton a couple of months ago. As bleak as it's been recently I still believe eventually it's going to click and we'll finally start living up to our potential... maybe in the next 50 years or so. COYR
I grew up local to Bristol and really close to semi-pro football where every weekend I’d go to grounds all around the south west with my dad as a coach. It surprises me that the city doesn’t have a top flight club as football is genuinely huge around here and there are so many clubs around. Growing up, Bristol Rovers was the academy everyone had trials at but I don’t know anyone that made it. I think, in fairness, Bristol being so close to places like Cardiff, Bath & Gloucester where Rugby is huge could have a lot to do with the priorities of a certain city club chairman 👀
I love the direction this channel went. Making more documentary type videos on clubs we just don't actively search for. Thanks Vizeh.
This was Ipswich for 17 years in the championship so I can very much relate.
Not forgetting the 4 years in L1😂
you are right with the league performances, however, there have been some exciting cup runs that have kept things exciting - beating Jose's Utd in the carabao QF was the best Bristol City game I ever saw!
i feel this as a north end fan tbf
Worst part is even most North End fans have no hope of making play-offs still either
beautiful stadium too, living in germany now but coming back to bristol over christmas and going to two games was incredible, missed it a lot, miraculously seen 2 wins too
I’m a Hull City fan, I remember the play off final with Bristol. Their fans were great that day, met quite a few before and on the way to the game - good friendly people. 👍
Bristol City. Never Bristol
Bristol is a Rugger club
Actually we had to win at Brighton on the penultimate game of 2016-17 to guarantee safety. The 2017-18 season was exciting, reaching the league cup semi finals. Then in 2018-19 we went into our last game still with a chance of the playoffs. Our dullness only really started around the time of COVID, and there’s no sign of things getting any better soon. Im amazed we’re still attracting the crowds we are, given the tedious dross served up on the pitch.
I remember our cup run in 1892 - brilliant lads back then. Tip top terrific.
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Cheers for making a vid on my club
No problem at all mate!
well done again, love these type of videos that give a great glimpse into the lower leagues, as i'm not too familiar with the plight of some of them, like the scunthorpe story for example. Would absolutely love to pick your brains on Bradford as a club lately they just seem to be sticking as is last few seasons
Bradford is a great idea, I’ll look into it!
The fact that I got excited from seeing a video about Bristol City even though it's very negative shows how boring we are. This is the first time I've seen us mentioned by someone who isn't a Bristol City or one of our rivals on the internet
Happy to provide something for you guys haha, I do think you guys will get it right soon (I think)
one problem we have is that lansdown cannot spend money on players, we got so much money from Lloyd Kelly, Semenyo and Scott but nothing in return
It’s so poor isn’t it
is bristol just a bournemouth factory??
They've never been a giant (sleeping or otherwise.)
Think you've nailed them with the 'boring' tag though.
Love the videos! Would love one on exeter city - last fully fan owned club in the uk, first team to ever play a Brazilian international team - along with loads of great history and an interesting modern age too
City fan and yeah this video pretty much sums us up ive never seen a bristol derby in our lifetime and tbh hope for a season in league one just to see that derby plus i believe our team just needs a full reset. also to reply to what you said at the end i'd definetely describe bristol as a rugby city and the football fans i do know are mainly man u or liverpool fans
That’s so bad, as the catchment area is so big so many more fans should be of Bristol City or Rovers
I'd love to see Bristol Rovers get promoted to championship, that would be a class rivalry.
Im an American so I love your videos on teams lower on the pyramid because they don’t get much coverage here
I appreciate it mate, there’s many more to come!
As a young Bristol city fan, almost every game I’ve been to this season in the championship, I haven’t felt a lot of passion from the players at times. Take the game against Swansea for example the other week. I was there with my mate and I think the entire lansdown stand agreed that the first half was one of the worst we’d ever seen. The was no passion or drive from the players, it looked like they’d given up on breaking their 4 game losing streak. But then in the second half we came alive again and played so much better. We went on to score and the game finished 1-0 to us. But that first half seemed to lack the drive and passion that you need as a football team.
But a few weeks prior when I went to the FA cup match against West Ham, with all the odds against us we won 1-0 and Ashton gate was going mad. The players were so passionate, driven and committed to beating a much bigger opponent that it shows what we can do when we really try. Obviously it’s hard to replicate that feeling every 46 games in the league but I think if we can get that drive back, we do have the chance to get to the playoffs.
It would also help if we actually spent our money on buying new players instead of just keeping it 😂
For me I’m actually happy where we are, we have some good days, some bad days and I like the championship. It’s a good standard but genuinely interesting as teams can go on a run and suddenly shoot up the table or plummet. Personally, I do have other fans ask but I wouldn’t actually want to go up, I know that sounds a bit small minded but whilst it would be a huge achievement in reality we’d just be tanked every week and face the potential that we’d go down far less stable with much bigger debt than we have right now. Plus we’d probably have to do a Forest and buy a whole new team, so that’s no longer the team that we’ve supported to get up there, suddenly it’s just 11 random lads who may or may not do better. So I’m happy where we are. I’ve also argued with plenty of Man City and Newcastle fans who say “oh you’re jealous and you’d love to have this money” and they just don’t get that no, I wouldn’t, I wouldn’t want to lose the identity of my club. Some fans just can’t get their heads around there’s more to football than winning the Prem League and becoming European champions, actually supporting a club you have a massive connection with and enjoying that connection can mean far more.
I would love to see them do well. I’ve had a really nice time when I’ve gone to games there and they have really nice fans. They’re my grandad’s local team to. I think if/when they get to the premier league the local interest will help them a lot, but in a way they need that now to get them there
I was initially offended by the title but.... You're absolutely right.
I appreciate that
Great video, hit the nail on the head. Always seem we make one step forward then one step backwards. Massively underwhelming city for football
As a season ticket holder it is interesting to see an outsiders perspective on our club and our complete lack of success. I agree that we don’t really know what’s going wrong and are just waiting on a big season with a bit of luck and a good run in, yet I think you did miss the mark a touch on our lack of play off attempts. Especially in 17/18, we were 2nd at Christmas and beating wolves at home until a red card which we then collapsed. That entire season was oh so close to promotion but our terrible end of season form made us finish 11th which doesn’t paint the picture at all. The next 2 seasons also saw hard play off pushes that just came up short so to say we’ve never had hopes of play offs I think was a touch wrong but really interesting video otherwise
I was so happy to see a video on my club only to realise he was calling us boring, but he aint wrong
I’m a Bristol city fan and this is pretty accurate, always so much optimism with our academy and the players we have but we never capitalise on it and always seem a yard behind, we have the infrastructure for the premier league but just can’t seem to get there, always so inconsistent. I love the vids tho and someone actually did a vid on us 😂
What I find amusing is you start off at Swindon Town, then go up 20 or 30 miles to Bristol City, another hop up to Cheltenham Town, then a bit further to Evesham Town. They all play in red or red stripes and they are all nicknamed The Robins.
I follow them now due to my girlfriend being born and raised from Bristol and I had no idea they were so mid table. They have the potential to pick up all the top talent coming through in the south west really. Their academy is really impressive also I didn't know it was so prodyctive until you listed all these sales.
As a Palace supporter I definitely see some similarities between Bristol City and us. Obviously it’s better that we’re stuck in mid-table to lower-mid-table in the Premier League rather than the Championship, but the situations are still similar. Even down to the rivalry situation, since we’ve been in different divisions than Brighton for many seasons in the last couple decades (tho thankfully it looks like our rivalry will have some staying power in the PL now). I’d love to see more success for Bristol City, it’s too big a town not to have a top tier club, and I’ve always like their badge and stadium.
I’m Bristolian and every time I’m like Oo I could start watching Bristol city I wonder how they’re doing, look up the table real quick and never mind
As a city fan I've been going to games since I was 6 with my dad, now 24 and although not having promotion/relegation could be 'boring' knowing that every game theres a chance when you pay for a ticket week in week out is why I love watching championship football, good enough quality in every game and having those cheeky cup runs we always seem to land against prem sides some proper good memories. But completely agree with a lot in this video. We have to do better. To see us go into the prem with my dad would be unforgettable, im sure im not alone.
I went to Bristol City about 20 years ago, they were playing Sheffield Wednesday. It was a 1-1 draw (I think), I remember the mass brawl among the fans after the game more than the match.
I wish you went deeper into our history and current levels because it’s an Interesting story of being the underdogs but never capitalising when we become the favourites
I tried to look about for some articles or forums going into it but even then it felt like most just expected it so not many feels need to mention it
There isn't much history. Only started in 1982 despite what their badge says. They are registered as BCFC 1982 Limited
I am Bradford City fan
We have a mid table performance pretty much every year in the last 7 apart from 1 playoff season
Substitute the word "unambitious" for the word "boring", you then have a very accurate statement.
As a Bristol city fan from Canada. (My dad’s from Bristol) It’s always been so frustrating as we have pulled off some very good performances in the cups against big teams, but fail to beat the teams were expected to win against. I just don’t understand how we lost narrowly to one of the best sides ever in the league cup semis in 2018, but then finish mid table in the championship the same season.
A finish of 11th in the 2nd tier. Impressive reliability with northern counterparts Preston at 12th. These clubs have earned some kind of Steady Eddie trophy.
As a Millwall Fan its Insane that we miss out
City supporter all my life but past few years they have helped me tremendously with my insomnia!
Bristol City, Millwall, Preston. Will we ever see these sides in the top flight again?
Millwall in the Premier League would absolutely seed chaos everywhere. I would absolutely be up for it. Especially considering the amount of rivalries they have. West Ham, Crystal Palace, Leeds United, Everton, Chelsea, etc.
West ham is by far the biggest rival
Palace is big with the Millennials age group as both clubs are completely different. West Ham & Millwall are very similar
I’ve been a STH down at Bristol City for 8 seasons now. There was 3 seasons in a row (2017/18, 18/19 and 19/20) where there was a real buzz around the club and we had a real chance of playoffs but wasn’t really to be. 17/18 we were 2nd on NYE and in the Semis in the Carabo Cup, but had the team was picking itself due to injuries which wasn’t sustainable and our form nosedived. 18/19 we were really gunning for it but we had a few bad decisions in the last few games against us and sort of internally collapsed. Then 19/20 we were 7th going into COVID with a real chance and it felt like we were at the start of a run (as at the time we had a special ability to either win 10 in a row or lose 10 in a row without much in between) but then covid hit and I think we won 1 game out of the last 9. Since then really it seemed like we had a project under Nigel Pearson and were making progress on the pitch with a young, exciting team that was being strengthened year on year. But the board inexplicably sacked him after loosing to Cardiff with only 8 fit first team players and got in Manning, it kind of seems a bit stagnant now under him and there is now a real sense of flatness on and off the pitch.
My first football game was Bristol City vs Chesterfield back in 2015. They got promoted that season and they had some ballers like Tammy Abraham, Luke Ayling and others
As a robin this was a good watch, , lansdown is very tight with money so when we sell big we see little back, only real hope is say we have atm is another boring season and we go into the market for an attacker who can finish their dinner, we’ve stocked up in defence and midfield for now and the foreseeable future… for now 💴
Your mini docs are the best on TH-cam by a mile. I'd love to see one about how we (Rotherham) are known as a Yo yo club
nice video
I'm a city fan and i totally agree.
every season we get to about the halfway mark and already it feels like we have nothing to play for.
It's pretty depressing and so boring and you just feel like the whole club just needs some excitement
Been there.
From 2005 (when the money properly ran out under Joe Royle) until relegation in 2019, Ipswich's league positions were:
15th, 14th, 8th, 9th, 15th, 13th, 15th, 14th, 9th, 6th, 7th, 16th, 12th, 24th (R)
Cool vid. I’ve moved here from Leicester 6yrs ago and sadly I feel like the crowd is a little bit shit and never gets too excited like they all know they’ll finish 12th. People say the owners prioritise the rugby (played on same ground) and it is a fairly rich city where maybe the community favours that too.
I remember the season when Bristol City finished 8th. It really felt like they were getting close to a possible promotion or at least a playoffs final. Then everything just went back to the same sort of mid season performance. Bristol as a city is for sure a sleeping giant in my view. The city itself is actually one of the more decent cities in the south and has great night life. I would say that the football culture is definitely there, it is just a little tired from having the same boring seasons and no derby games. Especially when you remember the season they finished 8th and how close they felt to having a legit product that could gain promotion. Swindon Town is possibly the only other club in the area with much of a history and I mean I guess even Swindon have played in the Premier League, so yeah it feels kinda weird to have such a booming city that is pretty well established and has it's culture, and to not see the football finally get it's time. I kind of lost hope for them really over the last few years. Very samey each year. One thing is for sure though, if Bristol did get promoted to the Prem, I believe they would realise what they are supposed to be and stay up. The fanbase is there. They have a fairly new modern ground to go with it. Just need to play better football I suppose and earn it.
As an older (48) Bristol City fan, I'm just happy that we're not spending most of our days playing teams like Mansfield and Notts County in the third tier like we did in the 80s, 90s and 2000s. 😆
Would that include losing to Mansfield at Wembley in the old FTR 1987?
@@paulgelsthorpe3712 Yeah I was there with my dad and brother. No offense to Mansfield fans, Notts County fans or whoever but Bristol is in the top 10 largest cities in England and we've never had a team to match this size in over 100 years of football history.
Bristol City is so great that now mentioning the city of Bristol, I actually remember the Street Motors (aka the Papa Johns) trophy more...
Do they get boring points for their new crest too?
And the kits and nickname that they share with 2 other clubs simply going either north or east along the motorway for an hour.
I live in Bristol and grew up in the south west (although not a City fan) and as a region it really is the dullest place for football. Bristol City are the most frustrating team in this neck of the woods as they have the scale and infrastructure to achieve but never do anything!
Not a footballing city that's why culture in bristol is very strange
You mention Bristol you mention Somerset, within that range is serious talent alone
Bristol City, and potentially Rovers, have a huge potential since they are not a lot of professional teams in that part of England. Bristol has a huge area of potential supporters who would be interested in attending premier league games
I like Bristol Rovers more but that's just because I liked the pirate on the badge.
It’s normal to have a soft spot for the smaller club.
Same, and the quartered shirts.
I would say for a boring club they do have some enthusiastic fans, although when have a population of 800,000 and are the only major club for over a million people in the sorrounding area, and have just 2 clubs, having 20,000 nutters especially in the west country feels almost a low amount.
Palace fan. Lived near Bristol between 2014-2019 so went to a couple of their games every season.
I’ve probably seen more goals conceded in the last 15 minutes than some fans during their lifetime. I’m 29.
😂😂😂 as a City fan that made me chuckle. It's true we're awful for holding on to a lead.
As a Bristol rovers fan I am going to thoroughly enjoy this video
Serious question. You guys have had a rollercoaster ride to non league and back. Would you swap that for Championship stability?
It’s hard but I just think that rivers are good how they are but I obviously have to admit city have more success but river is the original Bristol club and has more of passionate fans
@@Somersetballmapping Rovers claim of having more passionate fans is really just a myth. There’s no reliable way of quantifying “passion” other than the number of fans through the turnstiles. I’d argue that both clubs have a hard core loyal following as well as the usual hangers on and fair weather supporters, but you can’t argue with the statistics.
@@SomersetballmappingRovers aren't the original Bristol club either.
That's Roman Glass St George.
Crystal Palace's cousin from the southwest
I rate that
Exactly, they are the crystal palace of the championship
They've never been a giant to be a 'sleeping giant'. Less than a handful of seasons in the top flight render them a minnow whether sleeping or not.
Im from a little town in the south west, growing up the only real options were Rovers, City or Yeovil town. And honestly all three were so unappealing to me as a child that i ended up supporting Arsenal simply because my Grandad did. That and my dad is a Norwich fan 😅 OTBC
I like Bristol City a lot, and I really enjoyed seeing them beat West Ham earlier this season in the FA Cup.
Bristol city fan here and your spot on
Been a fan for 40 years, my lad is 14 now and ive brought him to games since he was a lad,, i had the same optimism then that he has now, but we are no closer to a season in the prem now than we were then,,, and i cant believe at this point that i will live to see it happen. Just decades of average management, average signings, average ownership, average everything.
My local team Yeovil town had some great games against bristol city when i was a kid
Blackburn fan- always getting slagged off for lower than should be attendances but won the obvious one on 02 league cup and we will actually rise again
Same for Crystal Palace. They’re a placeholder for 14th every season
Least they have some proper ballers each year and got some derbies to look forward too each season
Yeah that’s fair enough, same pain in that aspect, only difference is you are in the top league, an awful lot of us city fans would love to be in the prem even just for one season, firstly because we have never been there before but more importantly we get to see some of the best teams not only in EPL but in Europe compete against us, home and away, to be able to have the likes of Man City Man Utd arsenal Chelsea spurs and many others come to gate all in the same season would be fantastic, you get that privilege every season
Palace as a club are overachieving by finishing 14th in the Prem, like Vizeh said at least they have done entertaining players. The issue with Palace is banter culture and the new Prem fans, they didn't know what Palace have been like historically, they just see them as the mid table Prem club while the older fans who are British will still see them as the club who used to nearly go out of business every decade
@@Vizehwe had Alex scott
I've been to many City games over the years, but I genuinely haven't been bored by any of the games I've seen. Very often some late drama, always something happening, usually a decent crowd (at least at Ashton Gate). But yes, their mediocre position in the league is always depressing to see
I follow boston united
Since promotion to national north in 2010, we've not gone up or down. Have only come remotely close to relegation twice, had 2 playoff finals and 3 semi finals. Only 1 half decent cup run in 2019 (4 wins)
Most of the time we're upper midtable but never challenging for the title.
14 seasons going nowhere with virtually no cup runs. Haven't beaten a higher league side since 2010. Lost to countless lower league sides
Don't really have any derby games (only last 3 or 4 years have we even had away games within 50 miles).
its about time they showed some ambition and at least tried to get in the play offs they seem quite happy in the championship
Mate honestly all we do is just pass the ball backwards and expect to score goals. But when we do play it forward we look great.we are so inconsistent with our football and consistent finishing 14th
We are Bristol City fans and this speaks to our soul. So many seasons doing nothing, steve cotterel aside. One relegation in last 25 years is not an achievement but the hallmark of a lack of ambition. Landsdown has done a lot for the club but, as the majority are coming to understand, he is not the one to take us further. We are not sure what the solution is; but we hope for more excitement soon.
Been saying this for a few years! The only reason I remember them in league 1 was because I went to their ground that season for an away match and it was the only time I saw us (QPR) lose (unbeaten at home), beyond tha, I think of them as the most permenently mid-table championship side going.
Im a Bristol City fan and you're right.There are 2 leagues in the Championship: those with parachute payments and those with out. The likes of Bristol City, Birmingham, Stoke have much less income. But all Championship clubs cant lose 13 mil a year for Fair Play Rules. We have been losing 20 mil a year in a bid to compete with higher wages of the the parachute teams who get vast parachute money (in comparison) for 3 years. The gap is getting harder. More fans come through the door with a good run. Also remember in covid our chairman had to maintain a staff of approx 2000 for 2 years with empty seats. He's been good overall but we wait for better times.
As a Bristol city supporter, I think you were too generous!
I get more excitement playing with them on Pro Evo 2021! I got them into the champions league on there!!
As a Bristol City fan I can say that we EXCEL at being inconsistent. Why'd we get rid of Pearson...
Do a video on Coventry City and their rise in recent years
Agree with everything here. We’re just a selling club now. Produce or develop good players and sell them on to prem teams pretty much tells you our ambitions. We know we won’t go down but we won’t get to the promised land either. Best we did is when Johnson was with us and we’d find ourselves in top 3 before Christmas then drop down to 12th a couple seasons in a row. Also the fact our owner is so invested in the rugby team as well
Ashton gate is a lovely stadium
Having supported bcfc for 40 years and I have watched them come close to being bankrupt chasing the top league a fair few times so I’m happy for my bcfc to be sustainable. The ground cost a fortune and looks great and they produce great talent so they are in a good place. We need to thank Lansdowne for this and appreciate what he has done
as a palace fan, weve been doing the same thing in the prem for longer
As a Bristol City fan who lives in Somerset, I can tell you that the area is extremely football passionate yet we can never as a club find quite the right balance. I expevted to feel offended but I agree completely woth everything
Bristol City really does have potential to be a Premier League club
Ah, the Crystal Palace of the championship.
Nice video but you failed to mention the owner Steve Lansdown who has a net worth of over 2.5 Billion USD and also owns Finance investment firm Hargreaves and Lansdown. A local man born and raised in South Bristol. Simply put, Bristol City has one of the wealthiest owners in the UK.
A video on Crystal Palace (the most boring club in the PL) would be interesting. Their current spell started off exciting: finishing 11th after a god awful start in their first season under Tony Pulis, then finishing a record-high 10th and reaching an FA cup final under Alan Pardew. But since then, NOTHING but lower-mid table mediocrity
As someone from Bristol, I've always supported Man UTD but I felt like I should support a home team as a second team so I chose Bristol City, did't know anything about them but in hindsight I should of probably chosen Rovers, there not as good but definitely interesting.
I'm not gonna switch teams, better to be loyal.
Decided to play fifa career mode for Bristol city, unintentionally ended up being 11th two seasons in a row before getting bored with them