.556 is good at wounding because it's so underpowered. Look at mass shootings with this cartridge. Lots of wounded. When was the last time you heard of someone getting wounded by an elk rifle during a hunting accident? Almost 100 percent lethal. Many states don't allow .22 caliber cartridges or FMJ bullets in any caliber for big game hunting. Do I want to get shot with a .223 FMJ? Of course not but I'd take that over a .300 Win mag, with a good elk bullet and center of mass hit. You are going to die, period. A human body just can't absorb that much energy, tissue damage and survive.
@@kellywalker8407 5.56 definitely is NOT underpowered. It's absolutely lethal. Whoever told you that is a idiot. People don't know how use the rifles that shoot it. Mass shootings rarely occur with an AR platform rifle. Something like 98% of mass shootings are perpetrated with a handgun.
1:30 mags with witness holes/transparent/translucent mags showing opponents how many rounds are left 3:33 M1 Garand's ping giving away your position 5:56 5.56/.223 being designed to wound 8:26 The sound of racking a shotgun being enough to scare away an intruder 11:50 From _Die Hard 2:_ Glocks being made of porcelain in Germany (??) thus able to get through X-ray machines
As an active member of the 3D printing 2A community I hear the metal detector comment come up in political discussions all the time. The thing that people forget is that even a 3d printed gun needs a metal barrel, firing pin, slide, springs, and so on. just because some of it is plastic doesn't mean all of it is. a Glock with a printed lower actually has more metal in it than a factory Glock because the rails are larger and need to be supported better in the lower. even the 3D printed Mac lowers require a metal often steel feed ramp to operate properly
This. The new "No Russian" scene in MW2 genuinly made me mad how inaccurate the printed glock slide was. And that they went out of their way to show smuggled a loaded magazine, but still couldnt just add a real slide to that scene.
@@Flynn_Stones Yeah, I stopped playing COD style videogames a while ago, but I did see a clip of that scene. If I remember correctly they even had the layer lines going the wrong direction. The way they modeled it showed the lower and slide had been printed on their sides, and that's not how any of this works. rails up or rails down, no other options. don't even try to give me any of that 45 degrees BS either.
@@steve390gold you could definitely disguise it easier. put it in a box that more dense or surround it in more of the same material. but you wont just be able to walk past a metal detector with a barrel and a magazine
Getting a firearm past a functioning metal detector is not going to happen. Even the hand held garrett detectors can pick up a single piece of spent brass.
That is a good one we all know caliber is simply the diameter of the bullet. It is only 1 pice of the puzzle. As many rifle cartridges are under 30 cal so using there logic a 380 or 9mm (both 38cal) are more powerful. We know this is simply not true
@@michaelsweaney3890 Fast rifle projectiles do weird things. Handgun bullets no matter how well designed have a much more consistent track in tissue. The JFK assassination was a case study in the weirdness of terminal ballistics
There seems to be quite a lot of people who think simply having a gun is enough to protect themselves when they never go to the range with it. A firearm is not a magic wand, you need to practice to be effective.
@@WaitWhatsMyName A miss at 6 feet is a miss at 100. Your spread will never improve to the point that your chances of hitting or putting down what you are aiming at. I'm all for using a scattergun, but you still have to practice with it and if you are regularly shooting full power 2 3/4" you will get fatigued much more quickly than a 5.56 or a 9mm.
My favorite myth is the .22LR is non-lethal. Can be busted by law enforcement and medical professionals, who've often reported it to be one of the most common calibers they see recovered from bodies.
Can you imagine a Glock 7 shotgun?! It would be made of porcelain, so it would be undetectable, and the racking of the slide would scare any attacker away. What a powerful magical weapon that would be! 🤣
The sound of a big dog is much more effective and recognizable than the sound of racking a shotgun. However, a shotgun is much more effective at stopping a threat. A combination of the 2...priceless.
@@kennyc3338 background checks, waiting periods and red flag laws. Those aren’t infringements, they’re just common sense. I’m perfectly fine with the NFA going the way of the dodo, but I want background checks to stay, I want universal red flag laws, and I want a universal 15 day waiting period.
Fun fact the Glock 7 actually exists. Gaston Glock just numbered his Patents. So I think a Glock 7 is a curtain rod attachment. His first gun was his 17 patent.
So the myth is true. You could actually get that Glock 7 plastic thingy through a metal detector without raising an alarm. The difficult part comes afterwards when you try to hijack a plane with a rod attachment...
The thing about combat casualty care is that it the majority of it occurs AFTER combat and by troops who are specifically designated to provide it. So wounding an enemy does not eat up his resources more as a competent enemy is already expecting to take casualties and has set aside resources to deal with them. That is if the enemy cares about his casualties at all, and just doesn't abandon them after the fight. Further, wounded guys can still fight. We give medals to guys who were wounded and continued to fight.
Yeah and that also assumes that the enemy is using human wave attacks. Of course if the enemy is in trenches, foxholes, or bunkers on the other side of the battlefield, then the wounded man doesn't require anyone to leave the battle to receive care.
2 times in my life there were gun sounds that made me a little nervous. 1. I was hunting deer in a thick brushy lodgepole ridge. As I jumped a deer I heard a shot very close to me. The sound of a lever action kicking out the spent shell and kicking another in made me sit to the ground quickly and wait for the other ''hunter'' to walk away. 2. I was in a pawn shop in Missoula when a guy came in to the counter with a pump shotgun to sell. Pawn shop guy told him to open the slide. The guy racked it open and a live round hit the counter. Pawn shop guy then used a bit of graphic wordplay and told ''seller'' to leave.
My favorite myth is: You shouldn’t store your magazines fully loaded it weakens the springs. 🤦🏼♂️. I am so tired of explaining to people basic science regarding potential and kinetic energy, and how springs work and wear out.
@@airplanenut89 to the best of my knowledge, it is not. It kinda falls in line with the fudd lore of having to download your standard cap 30rd mags to 28 or 27 to not weaken the spring, cause fudds are retarded.
I don't think you are in any position to tell people how springs work. You clearly have no idea what spring creep (plastic deformation) is and how it happens
5.56 having better penetration and wounding capacity than full size cartridges IE .308 5.56 being perfectly adequate in the age of dirt cheap level 4 armor
Also, there are (and were) these things called "rifle squads." So even if one guy runs dry, you pop up to engage and all four of his buddies open up on your dumb ass and put you right tf back down.
I always questioned the 5.56 wounding statement... However it was repeated often when I went through basic and ait on the 80's by our drill sergeants...
We all wondered this until You tube and ballistics gel. You could watch it and even test the theory for yourself. I remember when I had my I had my own backyard range out of 10in AR pistol I shot Wolf ammo thru a soft armor 3A vest and thru at least 11 inches of ballistic gel I thought that wasn't meant to wound anybody.
When I went through basic in the 60s we were told that the 5.56 was made to tumble so it could cause more damage. Turns out that was because they got the rifling wrong for the bullet.
That one caliber shoots “flatter” than another. Gravity acts equally on all projectiles. They all fall at the same speed. However, the faster the projectile gets down range, the less time it has to drop, so the less it drops……
The "sound of a shotgun" thing is situational... example: if you're upstairs, and hear some nonesense downstairs, you should NOT go downstairs, but in a quiet house, at night ... ... i'm leaving if I'm the person downstairs and I hear a shotgun rack.
That it’s actually possible to accurately and effectively fire and control an Uzi, M10, HK5 or in fact ANY 9mm (or .45) sub-gun one-handed as is often depicted in movies.
You just have to be wearing the appropriate outfit, with the appropriate 80's rock soundtrack accompanying you. You also get infinite ammo with this method
For those who believe "The sound of racking a shotgun being enough to scare away an intruder", get a full sized dog instead. The sound it makes is much louder and scarier than simply racking a shotgun. Bonus item here, you also get a friend.
Apparently, some individuals seem to under estimate the difference between .22LR and .22WMR. My Brother nearly allowed one of my .22 WMR Derringers to fly out of his hand because he underestimated it. Another I've heard is a guy that wants a ".40 S&W because it's smaller than .45" This individual doesn't understand, and can't be explained to...
I was actually thinking about this the other day, and even if 2 ppl carry a wounded man out of immediate danger….the two who moved him are not out of the game-they will return to fight.
And wounded men can and have fought. And if they're in trenches, or a bunker, or buildings then the wounded don't have to be carried anywhere immediately. That idea fails at every level of analysis.
I think it was the movie "Saving Private Ryan" which repeatedly showed the M1 Garandes going "ping!" with the clips shooting up in the air as the US soldiers were firing on the Germans that first "popularized" and made widely known the fact that the M1 Garande did this. Before this movie, this was a fairly obscure military/historical factoid that wasn't well known and was never depicted in Hollywood war movies. I remember somebody told me about this a long time ago when I was a kid, but I never saw this depicted in a movie until "Saving Private Ryan".
Massad Ayoob actually made that comment about the shotgun but, big. big but, IT was loaded, and he WAS prepared to use said shotgun if need be. He was in an underground parking garage and 'smelled' the trouble brewing
Regarding the 5.56; before the 'made to wound' myth, there was the 'poodle shooter'; it was based on a small-game cartridge that simply lacked the 'stopping power' to reliably put down a man-sized target like the 'man stopping .30 cal!'
The only reason to wound the enemy is if you’re a sniper and want to draw his buddies out into the open. 😊 Gun Myth #47: AKs are inaccurate. If you miss with an AK it’s you. Ref: Robski of AKOU Local 4774. He will tell you…just ask him.
I forget his name but that skinny guy that does the channel with him is the scariest individual ever!! He looks so unassuming and he's a brutal operator with a AK in his hands.
The only way an enemy should be close enough to see your magazine to be able to tell how much ammo you have should be because you are completely out of ammo and engaging them in close quarters melee combat with a bayonet. At which point it really doesn’t matter.
Springs can absolutely weaken from being left (overly) compressed. It's called spring creep and engineers have to account for this when designing the spring and magazine.
@@newerest1false. Springs only wear from the use of them, meaning the compression and release of the spring weakens it, NOT being left loaded, this is a proven fact. The feed lips can weaken from the pressure of a loaded mag but the spring will NEVER weaken from just being compressed for years
I did clear the onlookers at a perimeter in Coconut Grove, Miami, when I opened my patrol car trunk, took my 590 out, and racked it... Of course, those were not the felons we were looking for...
For those who are new, we switched to 5.56 as the standard ammo for US military weapons because it's smaller, lighter, cheaper, and still lethal enough. It's as simple as that. Having cheaper ammo for the grunts means more money for the fancy toys that the contractors really want to sell to the government and that the government really wants to buy for reasons that have little to do with their combat effectiveness.
My favorite was that .22 lr/5.56 will bounce around inside your body when shot. I had one of my relatives tell me he heard about someone getting shot in the foot. It supposedly bounced around his body and came out of his head. Total B.S....lol
When you were talking about the 5.56 myth about wounding and needing two guys to carry them off the battlefield, that myth was around before the 5.56. the myth was the military used FMJ rounds was previously stated in wounding and being carried off the battlefield.
My favorite myth is any of the ones along the lines of “this rifle causes wound channels the size of a grapefruit” as if the bullets magically get 20x bigger once they leave the barrel.
I will say back in 1987 or 88 I knew a reservist that took a new glock through a airport x-ray mag removed, he saw the metal and knew what it was but the scanner working never knew what it was. He was telling all of us when we met up. I don't think that would be the case now days.
People need to stop pushing the myth of downgrading the capacity of AR mags claiming in a pitch battle they will never be able to consistently put a fully loaded 30 round mag into a closed bolt
Especially with the Magpul magazines being able to take a 31st round (granted, if you do that, you actually won't be able to seat the mag on a closed bolt). All my magazines are loaded to full capacity.
Checking a fully loaded mag under a closed bolt is actually a pretty good gear check, especially if using aftermarket mags and bolt carriers. THEN avoid the temptation to stuff 'one more' round into the mag.
The idea that 1-2 more rounds is worth having magazines that are far more difficult to seat is dumb. Like it makes me think these people don't even train because they think 1-2 rounds are worth more than easy seating of a mag on a closed bolt.
RE "the shotgun myth": Damn near every gun store I've ever walked into long enough to pick up on conversations concerning home defense claims the shotgun is king. In reality, the best home defense weapon is the AR-15.
Here's a few of my favorite gun myths that just won't die: 1) "Shotguns aren't good for self defense because they are harder to learn than pistols." This is simply not true. I've been trying most of my adult life to get better with pistols and despite practice, studying, and weekly dryfire I'm just ok. But with very little training and practice, I'm able to use my shotguns adequately for home defense. 2) "Shotguns are too big and bulky to use in home defense and aren't easy to maneuver with." Where the heck do you live? In a treehouse? You don't need a maneuverable gun to defend your bedroom, a hallway, or wherever you decide to make your stand. Unless you need to climb a rope ladder or something, you will have no trouble getting a shotgun to your stand. Don't believe me? Try it. Grab a shotgun, make sure it's unloaded and the safety is on. And try pointing it at your front door, or a window, or wherever you think is a plausible point of entry for an intruder. I've done it in both of the small apartments I've lived in since I got my first shotgun. 3) "You need a short barrel." No you don't. First see the previous entry. Second, a shorter barrel equals a lighter gun, which equals more felt recoil. Third, a shorter barrel means lower muzzle velocity of the shot. The whole point of a shotgun is it's incredible firepower. Why would you want to reduce it by shortening the barrel? If you like short barrels for reasons of style or taste or whatever, then that's fine, but if you claim that it makes it more effective than you're just wrong. It doesn't make it more effective and it's not going to make it significantly easier to use. But it will reduce the muzzle velocity. Anyway, thise are a few gun myths that really grind my gears.
I think the M1 Ping myth comes from troops on patrol in the Pacific using an empty clip to draw out hidden japanese hidden in bushes and trees. Whether this worked because they understood that the ping was from an empty M1 or because hearing a PING THUD convinced them they needed to relocate rather than risk that was a grenade we may never know, but my money is on the latter. With how unique the M1 was in the war even considering the german semi auto rifles, odds are that even if troops somehow heard the ping over dozens of rounds of .30-06 coming from an american squad they wouldnt have a clue what it meant. and if the troops did it correctly, it would almost never end up with an opening where everyone was reloading.
My favorite is that the AR-15 (not the M-16 or M-4) is a machine gun. I was told by someone that I had no need for a machine gun and would not believe me when I told her it was not a machine gun. She had heard it from certain politicians and news sources that it was an evil machine gun and 8 years in the military and owning an AR-15 was not enough to know whether or not it was a machine gun. I wish.
-"fully automatic is illegal" -"shorter barrels make weapons more concealable in turn makes the weapon more dangerous" -"By making gunshots harder to hear or see, silencers diminish the effectiveness of law enforcement and gunshot detection systems. Silencers are inherently dangerous devices that shooters can use to suppress the sound of gunfire and mask muzzle flash." -"shoot a deer with ar15, there is nothing left" -"Clean barrel with brass brush" -"using bore snakes"
“Fully semiautomatic weapons”. Especially ones equipped with the bullet button. And the fact that they’re as heavy as 10 large boxes that you might be moving.
I'm pretty sure I've heard all of those at some point... And a retired LE friend once got a burglar out of a commercial establishment by racking the slide, but I think that's a different scenario, since he was actually loading a round! I remember in school stories about how during Vietnam, we could shoot their .30 cal ammo (7.62x39) in our guns, but they couldn't use our .30 (7.62 NATO) in their guns, because of casing length. yeah...
I watched Eugene stoner say that the wounding thought did come up in production but was quickly discarded. He said that is how the rumors of wounding started but was never an actual idea.
People who say that about the 5.56/.223 also don't understand TCCC. The first thing you always do is return fire. If someone is wounded, two people aren't going to just stop what they're doing in a firefight to run out and get said wounded person. Everyone stays in the fight. That's what we have IFAKs for. I'm sure near peer enemy forces do similar things.
The sound of racking a shotgun will scare off those who do not intend to do you harm, nor do they want harm done to them. For those with intent to do harm, they will stay and fight
Fun fact: WW2 vets tell stories about close range gunfights with the Japanese, taking an empty M1 clip and smacking it off of their barrel or a rock, then just waiting with fully loaded rifles for the inevitable banzai charge afterward. I'm sure it had varying degrees of success but apparently it was an actual tactic. Just one of those "know your enemy" things.
For the shotgun myth, i always encouraged those individuals to not have a shotgun at all, just keep the sound on your cellphone and save yourself some money. Doesn't give you any comfort right? why not? "because what if I have to use it?" yeah, exactly.
One of my favorite "myths" (or rather a common misconception) is that "the gun is unloaded if I take the magazine out!" Regardless of whether or not there's one in the chamber. Again, more of a lack of understanding than anything, but likely common enough to warrant discussing.
As Clint once said:
"No one can hear it when you run dry with the M1. You just fired 8 rounds of 30-06. Everyone is deaf."
all hail the mighty clint smith
.556 is good at wounding because it's so underpowered. Look at mass shootings with this cartridge. Lots of wounded.
When was the last time you heard of someone getting wounded by an elk rifle during a hunting accident? Almost 100 percent lethal. Many states don't allow .22 caliber cartridges or FMJ bullets in any caliber for big game hunting. Do I want to get shot with a .223 FMJ? Of course not but I'd take that over a .300 Win mag, with a good elk bullet and center of mass hit. You are going to die, period. A human body just can't absorb that much energy, tissue damage and survive.
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@@kellywalker8407 5.56 definitely is NOT underpowered. It's absolutely lethal. Whoever told you that is a idiot. People don't know how use the rifles that shoot it. Mass shootings rarely occur with an AR platform rifle. Something like 98% of mass shootings are perpetrated with a handgun.
@@mbecker163 who are you responding to?
is it true that a 9mm will blow a lung completely out of a human body?
Yes because it weights as much as 10 boxes you might be moving and fires .50 Cal rounds.
From its 30 caliber magazine clip?@@Crangaso
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I came to the comments to leave something similar. Ya beat me too it.
1:30 mags with witness holes/transparent/translucent mags showing opponents how many rounds are left
3:33 M1 Garand's ping giving away your position
5:56 5.56/.223 being designed to wound
8:26 The sound of racking a shotgun being enough to scare away an intruder
11:50 From _Die Hard 2:_ Glocks being made of porcelain in Germany (??) thus able to get through X-ray machines
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😂 hilarious that 5.56 was at the 556 timestamp.
@@MrSmith-zy2bp nice one, didn't catch it myself lol
Thanks for saving me the time
If the enemy can see the number of rounds left in your mag, You have bigger things to worry about !
Oh, yeah!!! My Glock mags have witness holes on the BACK of the magazine, which is inside the grip.😮
If the enemy is looking that hard trying to see the amount of rounds you have left, thats your opportunity to..... well you know🤷🏿♂️
If they are that close you are about to get slapped along side your head with the butt of a gun.
As an active member of the 3D printing 2A community I hear the metal detector comment come up in political discussions all the time. The thing that people forget is that even a 3d printed gun needs a metal barrel, firing pin, slide, springs, and so on. just because some of it is plastic doesn't mean all of it is. a Glock with a printed lower actually has more metal in it than a factory Glock because the rails are larger and need to be supported better in the lower. even the 3D printed Mac lowers require a metal often steel feed ramp to operate properly
Just because it is plastic doesn't mean an xray can't see it......
Porcelain shows up too
This. The new "No Russian" scene in MW2 genuinly made me mad how inaccurate the printed glock slide was.
And that they went out of their way to show smuggled a loaded magazine, but still couldnt just add a real slide to that scene.
@@Flynn_Stones Yeah, I stopped playing COD style videogames a while ago, but I did see a clip of that scene. If I remember correctly they even had the layer lines going the wrong direction. The way they modeled it showed the lower and slide had been printed on their sides, and that's not how any of this works. rails up or rails down, no other options. don't even try to give me any of that 45 degrees BS either.
@@steve390gold you could definitely disguise it easier. put it in a box that more dense or surround it in more of the same material. but you wont just be able to walk past a metal detector with a barrel and a magazine
Getting a firearm past a functioning metal detector is not going to happen. Even the hand held garrett detectors can pick up a single piece of spent brass.
You know a pistol brace makes your gun a higher caliber. 😂
Turns a 556 to a 308. It’s happened to mine probably
yup turned my 9mm to a 50 cal
And it’s a bump stock
Isn't that an ATF directive?
A pistol brace acts as a bump stock which turns the gun into a machine gun.
One of the myths I've often heard is that 'bigger caliber always means more stopping power.'
That is a good one we all know caliber is simply the diameter of the bullet. It is only 1 pice of the puzzle. As many rifle cartridges are under 30 cal so using there logic a 380 or 9mm (both 38cal) are more powerful. We know this is simply not true
F = M x A
In the gun world that A is a lot more important. 9 mm is a larger caliber than 5.56 but a 5.56 fired at 3,000 fps is way gnarlier.
I'll be bold and say shot placement is more important than caliber. 🧐😊
@@michaelsweaney3890 Fast rifle projectiles do weird things. Handgun bullets no matter how well designed have a much more consistent track in tissue. The JFK assassination was a case study in the weirdness of terminal ballistics
@@jki808 Isn't it F = M * V? Force = Mass times Velocity? One of the precepts is, of course, gnarlyness.
Huge myth, if ammo catches fire it will send rounds a mile in every direction
There seems to be quite a lot of people who think simply having a gun is enough to protect themselves when they never go to the range with it. A firearm is not a magic wand, you need to practice to be effective.
Tell that to a sawed off 12g from 6ft away
@@WaitWhatsMyName A miss at 6 feet is a miss at 100. Your spread will never improve to the point that your chances of hitting or putting down what you are aiming at.
I'm all for using a scattergun, but you still have to practice with it and if you are regularly shooting full power 2 3/4" you will get fatigued much more quickly than a 5.56 or a 9mm.
Yep. I know a guy who's had an AR for years and never fired it!!!!!!
My favorite myth is the .22LR is non-lethal. Can be busted by law enforcement and medical professionals, who've often reported it to be one of the most common calibers they see recovered from bodies.
Can you imagine a Glock 7 shotgun?! It would be made of porcelain, so it would be undetectable, and the racking of the slide would scare any attacker away. What a powerful magical weapon that would be! 🤣
The sound of a big dog is much more effective and recognizable than the sound of racking a shotgun. However, a shotgun is much more effective at stopping a threat. A combination of the 2...priceless.
So I need a Shotgun that sounds like it's barking...
@@Firedrake1313 Get a pic rail Bluetooth speaker and load up a dog bark app on your cell phone.
you can buy flash bangs legally, thats a good way to start off
My "favorite" gun myth? Gun Violence. Assault Weapon gets a VERY close second.
You mean assault weapon. Assault rifles are real lol
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Indeed...edited / corrected.
@@hangnwithdosei3266 I figured that’s what you meant.
Especially when close to half of the CDC's "Gun Violence" statistic is derived from suicide as opposed to any form of homicide.
My favorite gun myth is that any of the gun "laws" are legitimate.
Guess you’re a victim to the myth that “any gun law is an infringement.”
My lawyer has counseled me to vehemently disagree with this statement!!
@@theflyingwelshman5338wait, what gun law isn’t an infringement?
@@kennyc3338 background checks, waiting periods and red flag laws. Those aren’t infringements, they’re just common sense. I’m perfectly fine with the NFA going the way of the dodo, but I want background checks to stay, I want universal red flag laws, and I want a universal 15 day waiting period.
Correction: Arms laws, you're silly enough to limit yourself to just guns.
Fun fact the Glock 7 actually exists. Gaston Glock just numbered his Patents. So I think a Glock 7 is a curtain rod attachment. His first gun was his 17 patent.
Where did you get this information from?
@@mjones1665. It's in the book 'Glock: The Rise of America's Gun' by Paul Barrett. Also pretty easy info to find on the net, it's all public access.
I got the info from the several Glock armour's school I have attended.
So the myth is true. You could actually get that Glock 7 plastic thingy through a metal detector without raising an alarm. The difficult part comes afterwards when you try to hijack a plane with a rod attachment...
The thing about combat casualty care is that it the majority of it occurs AFTER combat and by troops who are specifically designated to provide it. So wounding an enemy does not eat up his resources more as a competent enemy is already expecting to take casualties and has set aside resources to deal with them. That is if the enemy cares about his casualties at all, and just doesn't abandon them after the fight. Further, wounded guys can still fight. We give medals to guys who were wounded and continued to fight.
Yeah and that also assumes that the enemy is using human wave attacks. Of course if the enemy is in trenches, foxholes, or bunkers on the other side of the battlefield, then the wounded man doesn't require anyone to leave the battle to receive care.
In the words of Clint Smith, "You just fired eight rounds of 30-06. Everyone is deaf."
"A near miss from a .50, is enough to shred a human to pieces" 🙄
I don't remember his name but the army sniper that is on demolition ranch from time to time claimed this in an interview and I winced when he did
There are some pretty great ones floating around the net. Especially by the people who are against the 2nd Amendment
Especially that shoulder thing that goes up... like in _Predator._
My favorite gun myth is that there is such thing as common sense gun control
Common sense gun control is not a myth. I will control my gun. That's common sense.
One I always heard growing up was the 30-30 is a great brush gun because it won’t deflect like a faster bullet.
A 30-30 carbine does make a good brush gun because it's short a easier to swing in a brushy area
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Operating a pump action may not scare them off, However if they still want to dance teach them to do the turn around two step boogie. Semper Fi.
2 times in my life there were gun sounds that made me a little nervous.
1. I was hunting deer in a thick brushy lodgepole ridge. As I jumped a deer I heard a shot very close to me. The sound of a lever action kicking out the spent shell and kicking another in made me sit to the ground quickly and wait for the other ''hunter'' to walk away.
2. I was in a pawn shop in Missoula when a guy came in to the counter with a pump shotgun to sell. Pawn shop guy told him to open the slide. The guy racked it open and a live round hit the counter. Pawn shop guy then used a bit of graphic wordplay and told ''seller'' to leave.
A smart person would be scared of a racking shotgun but if they break into your house they aren't very smart
.223 just rattles around inside them!
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My favorite myth is:
You shouldn’t store your magazines fully loaded it weakens the springs. 🤦🏼♂️. I am so tired of explaining to people basic science regarding potential and kinetic energy, and how springs work and wear out.
I always figured that was one that was once true but as our ability to produce better magazines grew, it died off.
@@airplanenut89 to the best of my knowledge, it is not. It kinda falls in line with the fudd lore of having to download your standard cap 30rd mags to 28 or 27 to not weaken the spring, cause fudds are retarded.
I don't think you are in any position to tell people how springs work. You clearly have no idea what spring creep (plastic deformation) is and how it happens
@@newerest1 I heard all of that from Smith and Wesson themselves. I don't think you have any credibility after that comment.
My cousin is a welder, is well versed in metallurgy, and is also into guns, and even I have to tell him this.😂
5.56 having better penetration and wounding capacity than full size cartridges IE .308
5.56 being perfectly adequate in the age of dirt cheap level 4 armor
You know Lv4 plates can stop 308 too right? Even AP 308
You also know plates don't cover that much of the torso too right?
If you can hear the ping of an enbloc in the middle of a firefight, you have superman ears....
Also, there are (and were) these things called "rifle squads." So even if one guy runs dry, you pop up to engage and all four of his buddies open up on your dumb ass and put you right tf back down.
Probably the biggest issue with running a shotgun for home defense is short stroking a pump gun while you're under pressure.
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@thearizonian9500 hence why I specified pump guns.
That’s while practice is important.
I always questioned the 5.56 wounding statement... However it was repeated often when I went through basic and ait on the 80's by our drill sergeants...
We all wondered this until You tube and ballistics gel. You could watch it and even test the theory for yourself.
I remember when I had my I had my own backyard range out of 10in AR pistol I shot Wolf ammo thru a soft armor 3A vest and thru at least 11 inches of ballistic gel I thought that wasn't meant to wound anybody.
My entire company was told this by my Drill Sergeant in basic. That was 1983 at Ft McClellan Alabama. He was in Vietnam so I figured he knew.
When I went through basic in the 60s we were told that the 5.56 was made to tumble so it could cause more damage. Turns out that was because they got the rifling wrong for the bullet.
That one caliber shoots “flatter” than another. Gravity acts equally on all projectiles. They all fall at the same speed. However, the faster the projectile gets down range, the less time it has to drop, so the less it drops……
The BC also matters, that's why 77gr 223 is flatter overall than 55gr depsite lower muzzle velocity as it retains velocity better
The "sound of a shotgun" thing is situational... example: if you're upstairs, and hear some nonesense downstairs, you should NOT go downstairs, but in a quiet house, at night ... ... i'm leaving if I'm the person downstairs and I hear a shotgun rack.
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That it’s actually possible to accurately and effectively fire and control an Uzi, M10, HK5 or in fact ANY 9mm (or .45) sub-gun one-handed as is often depicted in movies.
You just have to be wearing the appropriate outfit, with the appropriate 80's rock soundtrack accompanying you. You also get infinite ammo with this method
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My favorite myth: That Kaya is all natural
Or he is good for the channel
As natty as an egg McMuffin
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Wearing kit while geared up 😂
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@briansykora8047 I'm just there for the feet and toes.
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I just realized Clint has his voice back, as contrasted by the Clint Smith clip lol
I know racking a shotgun won't scare an intruder but what about the sound of a home protection chain saw?
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For those who believe "The sound of racking a shotgun being enough to scare away an intruder", get a full sized dog instead. The sound it makes is much louder and scarier than simply racking a shotgun. Bonus item here, you also get a friend.
Apparently, some individuals seem to under estimate the difference between .22LR and .22WMR. My Brother nearly allowed one of my .22 WMR Derringers to fly out of his hand because he underestimated it.
Another I've heard is a guy that wants a ".40 S&W because it's smaller than .45" This individual doesn't understand, and can't be explained to...
Anything to do with filing the firing pin
The M1 Grand ping is an interesting one for me because it's like.... Were the 6 gun shots you just fired silent?
Also if you run up on a dude cause you think his rifle is empty there is a good chance you will end up with a pistol round in your chest
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@@WaitWhatsMyNameor a bayonet
I was actually thinking about this the other day, and even if 2 ppl carry a wounded man out of immediate danger….the two who moved him are not out of the game-they will return to fight.
And wounded men can and have fought. And if they're in trenches, or a bunker, or buildings then the wounded don't have to be carried anywhere immediately. That idea fails at every level of analysis.
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I think it was the movie "Saving Private Ryan" which repeatedly showed the M1 Garandes going "ping!" with the clips shooting up in the air as the US soldiers were firing on the Germans that first "popularized" and made widely known the fact that the M1 Garande did this. Before this movie, this was a fairly obscure military/historical factoid that wasn't well known and was never depicted in Hollywood war movies. I remember somebody told me about this a long time ago when I was a kid, but I never saw this depicted in a movie until "Saving Private Ryan".
1. .22LR ain't dangerous!
2. Car doors stop bullets.
3. SKS is an assault rifle not a deer rifle.
4. 38 special won't stop home intruders.
To add to number 4, police used that cartridge for decades with pretty good results, administrative results, if you will.
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Massad Ayoob actually made that comment about the shotgun but, big. big but, IT was loaded, and he WAS prepared to use said shotgun if need be. He was in an underground parking garage and 'smelled' the trouble brewing
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Regarding the 5.56; before the 'made to wound' myth, there was the 'poodle shooter'; it was based on a small-game cartridge that simply lacked the 'stopping power' to reliably put down a man-sized target like the 'man stopping .30 cal!'
We had a lot of built in prejudice about the M-16- a plastic, rattly, kid's toy .22 made by Mattel, etc, etc. Some true, some just BS-
@@hwalter5432 It was just too new and different for a lot of people.
YUP! It did not instill confidence! @@petesheppard1709
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The only reason to wound the enemy is if you’re a sniper and want to draw his buddies out into the open. 😊
Gun Myth #47: AKs are inaccurate. If you miss with an AK it’s you. Ref: Robski of AKOU Local 4774. He will tell you…just ask him.
I forget his name but that skinny guy that does the channel with him is the scariest individual ever!! He looks so unassuming and he's a brutal operator with a AK in his hands.
@@MrAutochamberRobski and his daughter (?) just won medals at a recent sniper competition
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The only way an enemy should be close enough to see your magazine to be able to tell how much ammo you have should be because you are completely out of ammo and engaging them in close quarters melee combat with a bayonet. At which point it really doesn’t matter.
Leaving mags loaded weakening the spring
They found out its the feed lips that weakened
Springs can absolutely weaken from being left (overly) compressed. It's called spring creep and engineers have to account for this when designing the spring and magazine.
@@MrJKD360 They can, but engineers have accounted for that.
@@newerest1false. Springs only wear from the use of them, meaning the compression and release of the spring weakens it, NOT being left loaded, this is a proven fact. The feed lips can weaken from the pressure of a loaded mag but the spring will NEVER weaken from just being compressed for years
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I did clear the onlookers at a perimeter in Coconut Grove, Miami, when I opened my patrol car trunk, took my 590 out, and racked it... Of course, those were not the felons we were looking for...
The myth that blows my mind is, “I pay attention and am quick enough to chamber a cartridge in my concealed carry pistol to deal with XYZ.”
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For those who are new, we switched to 5.56 as the standard ammo for US military weapons because it's smaller, lighter, cheaper, and still lethal enough. It's as simple as that. Having cheaper ammo for the grunts means more money for the fancy toys that the contractors really want to sell to the government and that the government really wants to buy for reasons that have little to do with their combat effectiveness.
My favorite was that .22 lr/5.56 will bounce around inside your body when shot. I had one of my relatives tell me he heard about someone getting shot in the foot. It supposedly bounced around his body and came out of his head. Total B.S....lol
that does happen with 5.56, it will change defection. one guy got shot in the left lung and it went down and ended up in his leg.
@johnbaker9581 I agree that but it will not traverse head to toe like I have heard it described. Not just 5.56 but .22 LR too.
In the Army they told me the same thing. In foot out head.
So THAT'S what happened to JFK!!!
When you were talking about the 5.56 myth about wounding and needing two guys to carry them off the battlefield, that myth was around before the 5.56. the myth was the military used FMJ rounds was previously stated in wounding and being carried off the battlefield.
My favorite myth is any of the ones along the lines of “this rifle causes wound channels the size of a grapefruit” as if the bullets magically get 20x bigger once they leave the barrel.
Have you never seen ballistic gel get shot
Temporary wound channels, yes.
Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch regarding the M1 *ping* myth: “You just shot eight rounds of 30-06, EVERYONE IS DEAF!!”
I will say back in 1987 or 88 I knew a reservist that took a new glock through a airport x-ray mag removed, he saw the metal and knew what it was but the scanner working never knew what it was. He was telling all of us when we met up. I don't think that would be the case now days.
how about those silencers! someone could walk thru your house and go room to room shooting people and no one would hear a thing!
I heard gun myths will get you kilt in da street !
The dumbest I've ever heard was a.k. rounds tumble in flight. Before first impact.
Actually they used empty M1 Clips to trick the enemy to believe they were out of ammo during WWII. 4:09
People need to stop pushing the myth of downgrading the capacity of AR mags claiming in a pitch battle they will never be able to consistently put a fully loaded 30 round mag into a closed bolt
Especially with the Magpul magazines being able to take a 31st round (granted, if you do that, you actually won't be able to seat the mag on a closed bolt). All my magazines are loaded to full capacity.
@@JohnnyReb2000 I got DD 32 round mags
Checking a fully loaded mag under a closed bolt is actually a pretty good gear check, especially if using aftermarket mags and bolt carriers. THEN avoid the temptation to stuff 'one more' round into the mag.
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20 year vet seen lots of mags not lock in because loaded to 30 not 28
The idea that 1-2 more rounds is worth having magazines that are far more difficult to seat is dumb. Like it makes me think these people don't even train because they think 1-2 rounds are worth more than easy seating of a mag on a closed bolt.
Real conversations.
“You need a 270 minimum for 100lb Texas white tails”
Same guy “45acp will knock a 200 lb man out of his boots!”
RE "the shotgun myth": Damn near every gun store I've ever walked into long enough to pick up on conversations concerning home defense claims the shotgun is king. In reality, the best home defense weapon is the AR-15.
Here's a few of my favorite gun myths that just won't die:
1) "Shotguns aren't good for self defense because they are harder to learn than pistols." This is simply not true. I've been trying most of my adult life to get better with pistols and despite practice, studying, and weekly dryfire I'm just ok. But with very little training and practice, I'm able to use my shotguns adequately for home defense.
2) "Shotguns are too big and bulky to use in home defense and aren't easy to maneuver with."
Where the heck do you live? In a treehouse? You don't need a maneuverable gun to defend your bedroom, a hallway, or wherever you decide to make your stand. Unless you need to climb a rope ladder or something, you will have no trouble getting a shotgun to your stand. Don't believe me? Try it. Grab a shotgun, make sure it's unloaded and the safety is on. And try pointing it at your front door, or a window, or wherever you think is a plausible point of entry for an intruder. I've done it in both of the small apartments I've lived in since I got my first shotgun.
3) "You need a short barrel." No you don't. First see the previous entry. Second, a shorter barrel equals a lighter gun, which equals more felt recoil. Third, a shorter barrel means lower muzzle velocity of the shot. The whole point of a shotgun is it's incredible firepower. Why would you want to reduce it by shortening the barrel? If you like short barrels for reasons of style or taste or whatever, then that's fine, but if you claim that it makes it more effective than you're just wrong. It doesn't make it more effective and it's not going to make it significantly easier to use. But it will reduce the muzzle velocity.
Anyway, thise are a few gun myths that really grind my gears.
I think the M1 Ping myth comes from troops on patrol in the Pacific using an empty clip to draw out hidden japanese hidden in bushes and trees. Whether this worked because they understood that the ping was from an empty M1 or because hearing a PING THUD convinced them they needed to relocate rather than risk that was a grenade we may never know, but my money is on the latter. With how unique the M1 was in the war even considering the german semi auto rifles, odds are that even if troops somehow heard the ping over dozens of rounds of .30-06 coming from an american squad they wouldnt have a clue what it meant. and if the troops did it correctly, it would almost never end up with an opening where everyone was reloading.
Oh yeah you're going to hear the Garand ping over the sound of gun fire
I was thinking two guys in close quarters.
Never mind that it's one ping out of how many you are fighting? 🤣
You didn’t mention that the 5.56 also tumbles inside the body. Causing more damage to internal organs.
Depends on ammo and twist rate.
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3:49 I love M1 Garands, too, but the AK-47 says, "hi."
My favorite is that the AR-15 (not the M-16 or M-4) is a machine gun. I was told by someone that I had no need for a machine gun and would not believe me when I told her it was not a machine gun. She had heard it from certain politicians and news sources that it was an evil machine gun and 8 years in the military and owning an AR-15 was not enough to know whether or not it was a machine gun. I wish.
Does an AR15 actually weight as much as 8 large boxes that you would use to move stuff? Also is it 50 caliber? (I mean other than Beowulf of course)
An AR-15 weighs between 6 to 8lbs. The politician that was quoted about AR-15's weighing as much as 8 or was it 10 large boxes is an idiot!
M-1 Ping! On the battlefield you are not alone. Is your entire squad going to run dry at the same time?
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“Fully semiautomatic weapons”. Especially ones equipped with the bullet button. And the fact that they’re as heavy as 10 large boxes that you might be moving.
9mm will blow the lung completely out the body
I'm pretty sure I've heard all of those at some point... And a retired LE friend once got a burglar out of a commercial establishment by racking the slide, but I think that's a different scenario, since he was actually loading a round!
I remember in school stories about how during Vietnam, we could shoot their .30 cal ammo (7.62x39) in our guns, but they couldn't use our .30 (7.62 NATO) in their guns, because of casing length. yeah...
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I watched Eugene stoner say that the wounding thought did come up in production but was quickly discarded. He said that is how the rumors of wounding started but was never an actual idea.
People who say that about the 5.56/.223 also don't understand TCCC. The first thing you always do is return fire. If someone is wounded, two people aren't going to just stop what they're doing in a firefight to run out and get said wounded person. Everyone stays in the fight. That's what we have IFAKs for. I'm sure near peer enemy forces do similar things.
The sound of racking a shotgun will scare off those who do not intend to do you harm, nor do they want harm done to them. For those with intent to do harm, they will stay and fight
Fun fact: WW2 vets tell stories about close range gunfights with the Japanese, taking an empty M1 clip and smacking it off of their barrel or a rock, then just waiting with fully loaded rifles for the inevitable banzai charge afterward. I'm sure it had varying degrees of success but apparently it was an actual tactic. Just one of those "know your enemy" things.
“Just rack it” needs to be on a tee shirt
For the shotgun myth, i always encouraged those individuals to not have a shotgun at all, just keep the sound on your cellphone and save yourself some money. Doesn't give you any comfort right? why not? "because what if I have to use it?" yeah, exactly.
See through if you’re under fire from multiple angles could actually let someone know when to take a shot but it gets complicated in action
One of my favorite "myths" (or rather a common misconception) is that "the gun is unloaded if I take the magazine out!" Regardless of whether or not there's one in the chamber.
Again, more of a lack of understanding than anything, but likely common enough to warrant discussing.
Even if the gun was fully plastic and ceramic the bullets and shell casings are and always will be metal of some sort.