Firstly, round of applause for the commitment to devour as much Motorhead music as you did in such a short time period. Having been a fan for close to 4 decades I probably still haven't garnered that level of intimacy with them. I listened to "1916" today, and you're spot on with the way the sound has changed. I guess in such an intense listening spell, it comes across more obviously. Quality video sir 🤘
Cheers Sean. Yeah I've put a big couple of weeks in with them lol. I think you have said something there that is the case for a lot of people. Long term but not necessarily deeper listening
If anyone has any doubt over how good a lyricist Lemmy is then just read the lyrics for Don't Let Daddy Kiss Me. That song is fking haunting, I think he wrote it for Doro but it was way too dark for her so he recorded it himself. Enjoyed this one mate, I have very few Motorhead albums but I've liked everything I've heard.
I just tried that one out. It's not bad that one. I can see a woman not wanting to sing it though as it could make people think maybe she was abused. Try Scorpions - Daddy's Girl. Same subject matter but I think it's a better song.
Lemmy was a legend ! Went to see them in 1991 on the 1916 tour ( which is actually my favourite album) - I actually saw Lemmy in Woolworths before the gig and shit my pants as I dare not speak to him - biggest regret ever
😂 not do much 1916 as 19 shit teen 😂. I'm happy with this early era. It's too different after that for me. I seen them in 2005 and didn't appreciate the occasion unfortunately
Up until this year, I was only familiar with the first 5-6 albums from Motorhead. I picked up a reissue of Inferno last spring and I really enjoyed it. Since then I have picked up most of the discography. I would agree that the best material is from early in their career, but there are some gems to be found later on!
The Young Ones was huge in New Zealand, and Motorheads performance of Ace Of Spades on it was earth shattering for me. Incredible one song and out, on that programme. Killed By Death video was important as well, had that song on my phone for years. Nice to see your new found appreciation for all things Motorhead Mike!🤘
Another great video - I love the early Motorhead and still have my OGs including No Sleep til Hammersmith, which I think is one of the best live albums ever, Overkill, Orgasmatron, Motorhead, Ace of Spades and No Remorse with the leather sleeve. I wish I had been able to see them live but growing up in Cornwall there were very few venues and I missed the boat. I think Motorhead is my favourite track from the classic line-up, and Killed by Death from the later line-up, but there are so many great tracks that it is hard to rank them.
Good Video Mike. There are a couple of decent albums after 1998s Snake bite love and 2009s Kiss Of Death. I only got to see them once on that tour in guildford
Good to see you getting into Motorhead Mike, an often overlooked band despite Lemmy's cult status in the the metal world. Yeah his lyrics are great, he's up there with the best of them imo and his wit and humour really make them quite unique. Another perfect day and 1916 are a couple of albums I really like, because they are a bit different. There are other albums worth checking out, sacrifice, We are Motorhead, the world is yours and my personal favourite - Inferno. I'd say they'd at least hold their own against some of those "weaker" 80s albums. My fav song is over the top, he does a great version of it with the damned as well.
Cheers mate I'm glad I finally got into them. I might revisit down the line the later stuff. For now in on with Accepts early stuff. Hope you are well mate
Better late than never Mickey! I think, unless I’m mistaken, we’re of a similar vintage, and from the same part of the world (NE England, though I guess you’re from nearer Durham). During that purple period from Overkill, thru Iron Fist, it felt as if Motörhead played Newcastle every month, though it was probably nearer every six. Overkill is my favorite sophomore album by any band, Bomber isn’t far behind and Ace of Spades needs no introduction - if I had had one criticism of that (and also Iron Fist), I’d have shaved a couple of tracks of both; e.g. Dance and Fire, Fire don’t do it for me. I was fortunate enough to be at both nights at Ncl City Hall when they recorded No Sleep, and both those shows together with the Leeds show (which wasn’t used I believe) are now available as a box set. After that, they kind of tailed of in popularity. On the Another Perfect Day tour, fine album incidentally - I think (though I may be wrong) - the balcony at City Hall was closed, and tracks like Overkill, Bomber, Iron Fist, and even Ace of Spades were dropped (Robbo refused to play them!). After that, they mostly played the Mayfair and by 1987, it was Spennymoor Leisure Centre! But the quality never really dipped that much. Yes, partly because of my age, the albums from Rock and Roll onwards don’t resonate quite so much. But in later life, I took a year or so and gave each one the time they deserve. Bastards, 1916, Motörizer, Aftershock, Sacrifice, and Inferno are all damn fine albums (Keys to the Kingdom is a top 10 Motörhead track for me). You also mentioned Iron Horse/Born to Lose. That’s my favorite track by the band, though the best version for me is off the much maligned On Parole; I like Lemmy era Hawkwind, so that whole album, with it’s boogie rock and roll vibe is tops too. Cheers. And thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Oh that's sad to hear about them late 80s tours being like that. It explains why I didn't see them as so important to me though. I live on the opposite coast. Newcastle is around 100 miles away from me. Been to the Mayfair dozens of times and loved it. Shame it came to an end. Cheers mate
I like Motorhead but I don't consider myself a huge fan. I have only 4 Motorhead albums and really don't have the urge to check out more from them. However, I respect Lemmy as he was a great lyricist & musician. The same goes to the rest of all the band members. I'm glad you're getting into Motorhead's music, Mike.
Hey Mickey! That is the absolute brilliance of recorded music. You can newly discover old music. You can go away from an artist and go back to them. It will always be there! Granted, we can’t see a band like Motörhead again. But, with all the video content they created over the decades, you get a taste of it. So, with that said, I’m very happy that Motörhead caught up to you! Cheers!
Enjoyed this Mike. There are plenty of bands I've got into after knowing about them for ages over the years. Another Perfect Day is a great album, another one with a bad reputation and I just don't understand why. Cheers
This was fucking great Mick. Glad you decided to give them a real go again. Like you, I really got them when I noticed about how the lyrics are so intelligent and well written, they've definitely helped me out on a few occasions. By the way, Metropolis is about a film. I fuckjng skip it every time. Hated they played it live every fucking time. Was interested to see how you got on with Another Perfect Day- the one everyone hated- criminally underrated record that is. It will grow on you. Iron Fist get's a lot of shit, only has one really weak song (Loser). I love it. Be good seeing how you like the post 1990 albums. The four songs on No Remorse are cool, but Snaggletooth and Locomotive fucking rule!! (The latest Live At The Monrreux Jazz Festival album opens with Snaggletooth...) Orgasmatron is an absolute beast of an album. Mad how he woke up from a Speed binge in a hotel room, wrote it in 15 minutes, went back to bed and couldn't remember anything about it...! Rock'n'Roll is my favourite album of their'x and is my favourite song ever. Fuck me I'm glad my Eat The Rich didn't cost me £55!! I have the soundtrack lp as well. 1916 is s great one, but the production let's it down s bit. Still a banger though. On he Motörhead ranking stream I done, Kris called 1916, March Or Die and Bastards their "Cock Rock Era". Th beard shave lasted onecalbum cover as did those shorts- you should find Scott Ian's story about them, so funny! Don't write off the records after this because there are some fucking stellar records in there believe me, the lyrics get better too, no point leaving a job half finished. How could you not remember "The Hammer"though?? Haha!! Great video though!!.
Cheers Dave. Yeah I've had a lot to take in this last fortnight that's my excuse lol. I'm listening to the Motorcast podcast. It's H from Acid Reign interviewing people from the industry who worked with them. It's really good have a look for it. H let's them talk he never butts in.
Hi Mickey! What a great idea to make this video about Motörhead! I've always liked that temperament in their music, that particular attitude. All those stories, that is the very essence of Rock 'n Roll. PS: I've got the t-shirt you're wearing as enamel plate hanging next to my Christmas tree, right where it belongs. Cheers dude! 😎🤘
Been my favourite band since I saw them do overkill on top in 79 . Know what you mean about 1916 but I like it. Going to Brazil and Ramones are 2 of my favourite all time Motorhead songs March or die apart from the shit cover is my least favourite. You need to check the rest of the catalogue out as they fuckin great. The last 5 or 6 albums where Matt Cameron took over production sand up verry well to anything they put out. Enjoyed the video. Motorhead For Life
Cheers mate. I got to say I nearly said Going to Brazil was one that got on my tits lol. To each his own and all that. But yes the first third of the catalogue is awesome
Hello ' bro ' happy.advent ! ❤ Hey please along your line i don't have watch never a beauty recension on that great opera of pubblic enemy plus anthrax ..... become also others disk of self importance whit minor band but no' more I like watch along this days the beauty yiur new work video ! Kissbye ✌
It’s always better to be late to the party… than never at all Mike! I’d heard ‘Orgasmatron’ back in my teenage years & really enjoyed it… but for whatever reason I never really listened to their other albums until years & years later! I always thought Lemmy was a legend tho! Good to see yer mate!🤘🏻
Cheers mate. I thought they were scary when I first heard them as a kid. I just kept well away lol. That's a great batch of albums to have gotten into this late though so I'm delighted. I just have to fend off people suggesting latter day stuff because it isn't the same 😂
Your take on "1916" is completely right. It´s a transition album, I like the innocence of that period, still the same but different. A bit like "Another...", I love the album to death. Yeah ,in "1991" you can hear a lot of US influences but it´s a step aside that I like. They took another step with "Sacrifice", more to the European (global) sounding stuff they did until the end. "The World Is Yours" is another one high up on my list, their "elderly" masterpiece.
I can see that if that was your first time seeing them and all that goes with it that you're going to have a strong bond with that era. Even though I wasn't into them somehow I'm still nostalgic for these early ones because they were still in my consciousness. Those posters are great you showed me on the email. I bet they are worth a fortune.
same as you mate i never really got them. seen them live twice and thought they were ok . i think ill put some of their cds on in the car tomorrow now just to see.
I dated michael 'wurzel' burstons neice back in 85/86 and met lemmy when he and wurzel came round one christmas. I was only 16 and had no idea who they were lol but i do still have the studded wristband lemmy gave me.
Hi Mickey!!! I have the same "issues" with other legacy bands with extensive catalogues, if you want to start getting into them were do you start listening newer? early? mid?. I also began with their first (4) classic ones and still think those are great records, and i think they still sound cool.....the think with the band and their sound is they have a consistent way of sounding even with the changes in their lineup. The other one i have is their last studio album "Bad Magic" and to me they end their career on a high note. cheers
I think I need that Record Collector mag, I´ll see if I can find it over here... His lyrics are fantastic, even a poor English speaker like I am loves them! "Can´t find no window but I gotta get outside Can you help me stand? I feels like both my legs have died What was that injection?´cos I think it´s going wrong I really like this jacket but the sleeves are much too long" (from "Back At The Funny Farm" 1983)
I never really got into Motorhead either. I've heard a few songs which I thought were ok, but never went any further into their catalog than the singles that were from the mid to late 80s. I always thought Lemmy was cool, but the music just never really did anything for me. I've been meaning to check out more of their stuff, just haven't gotten around to it. I haven't heard any of the top 5 songs you mentioned, so I'll give them a listen. I also remember seeing the Young Ones. I saw a few episodes. MTV aired the show for a while here in the US when I was in high school (mid 80s).
@@metalmickey I listened to Snaggletooth and Killed by Death last night. They weren't bad. I get what you are saying about them being a lyrical band, but I usually don't pay attention to lyrics. I usually view the vocals as just another instrument and judge it by how it sounds with the rest of the music rather than what they are actually saying. Might be why I don't like the growling stuff.
Firstly, round of applause for the commitment to devour as much Motorhead music as you did in such a short time period. Having been a fan for close to 4 decades I probably still haven't garnered that level of intimacy with them. I listened to "1916" today, and you're spot on with the way the sound has changed. I guess in such an intense listening spell, it comes across more obviously. Quality video sir 🤘
Cheers Sean. Yeah I've put a big couple of weeks in with them lol. I think you have said something there that is the case for a lot of people. Long term but not necessarily deeper listening
Totally agree. Snaggletooth is one of my all times favourites. Been into them since about 89/90 no remorse was my 1st album.
A good entry point that mate
Really enjoyed the video, I’m glad you got there mate! “You know rules, you all know the game” Build For Speed one of best Motörhead song ever!
I'm looking forward to just going over and over these albums now and getting to that stage like I am with Iron Maidens 80s stuff.
If anyone has any doubt over how good a lyricist Lemmy is then just read the lyrics for Don't Let Daddy Kiss Me. That song is fking haunting, I think he wrote it for Doro but it was way too dark for her so he recorded it himself. Enjoyed this one mate, I have very few Motorhead albums but I've liked everything I've heard.
Not Doro, Lita Ford and Joan Jett apparently.
I just tried that one out. It's not bad that one. I can see a woman not wanting to sing it though as it could make people think maybe she was abused. Try Scorpions - Daddy's Girl. Same subject matter but I think it's a better song.
Lemmy was a legend ! Went to see them in 1991 on the 1916 tour ( which is actually my favourite album) - I actually saw Lemmy in Woolworths before the gig and shit my pants as I dare not speak to him - biggest regret ever
😂 not do much 1916 as 19 shit teen 😂. I'm happy with this early era. It's too different after that for me. I seen them in 2005 and didn't appreciate the occasion unfortunately
@@metalmickey love 1916 - its ace, my ears were ringing for 2 days
Up until this year, I was only familiar with the first 5-6 albums from Motorhead. I picked up a reissue of Inferno last spring and I really enjoyed it. Since then I have picked up most of the discography. I would agree that the best material is from early in their career, but there are some gems to be found later on!
Yeah you can't help but hear certain songs from the newer period. Im glad I caught up with the early period properly though.
The Young Ones was huge in New Zealand, and Motorheads performance of Ace Of Spades on it was earth
shattering for me. Incredible one song and out, on that programme.
Killed By Death video was important as well, had that song on my phone for years. Nice to see your new found
appreciation for all things Motorhead Mike!🤘
Cheers mate, better late than never eh. I think New Zealand is very similar to the UK is it ?
@@metalmickey Maybe U.k 50 yrs ago. My U.K workmates think. Similar culture for sure.
Another great video - I love the early Motorhead and still have my OGs including No Sleep til Hammersmith, which I think is one of the best live albums ever, Overkill, Orgasmatron, Motorhead, Ace of Spades and No Remorse with the leather sleeve. I wish I had been able to see them live but growing up in Cornwall there were very few venues and I missed the boat. I think Motorhead is my favourite track from the classic line-up, and Killed by Death from the later line-up, but there are so many great tracks that it is hard to rank them.
I'm still on a bit listening binge. Absolutely love them up to 88. Cheers for watching mate.
Good Video Mike. There are a couple of decent albums after 1998s Snake bite love and 2009s Kiss Of Death. I only got to see them once on that tour in guildford
Good to see you getting into Motorhead Mike, an often overlooked band despite Lemmy's cult status in the the metal world. Yeah his lyrics are great, he's up there with the best of them imo and his wit and humour really make them quite unique. Another perfect day and 1916 are a couple of albums I really like, because they are a bit different. There are other albums worth checking out, sacrifice, We are Motorhead, the world is yours and my personal favourite - Inferno. I'd say they'd at least hold their own against some of those "weaker" 80s albums. My fav song is over the top, he does a great version of it with the damned as well.
Cheers mate I'm glad I finally got into them. I might revisit down the line the later stuff. For now in on with Accepts early stuff. Hope you are well mate
Better late than never Mickey! I think, unless I’m mistaken, we’re of a similar vintage, and from the same part of the world (NE England, though I guess you’re from nearer Durham). During that purple period from Overkill, thru Iron Fist, it felt as if Motörhead played Newcastle every month, though it was probably nearer every six. Overkill is my favorite sophomore album by any band, Bomber isn’t far behind and Ace of Spades needs no introduction - if I had had one criticism of that (and also Iron Fist), I’d have shaved a couple of tracks of both; e.g. Dance and Fire, Fire don’t do it for me. I was fortunate enough to be at both nights at Ncl City Hall when they recorded No Sleep, and both those shows together with the Leeds show (which wasn’t used I believe) are now available as a box set. After that, they kind of tailed of in popularity. On the Another Perfect Day tour, fine album incidentally - I think (though I may be wrong) - the balcony at City Hall was closed, and tracks like Overkill, Bomber, Iron Fist, and even Ace of Spades were dropped (Robbo refused to play them!). After that, they mostly played the Mayfair and by 1987, it was Spennymoor Leisure Centre! But the quality never really dipped that much. Yes, partly because of my age, the albums from Rock and Roll onwards don’t resonate quite so much. But in later life, I took a year or so and gave each one the time they deserve. Bastards, 1916, Motörizer, Aftershock, Sacrifice, and Inferno are all damn fine albums (Keys to the Kingdom is a top 10 Motörhead track for me). You also mentioned Iron Horse/Born to Lose. That’s my favorite track by the band, though the best version for me is off the much maligned On Parole; I like Lemmy era Hawkwind, so that whole album, with it’s boogie rock and roll vibe is tops too. Cheers. And thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Oh that's sad to hear about them late 80s tours being like that. It explains why I didn't see them as so important to me though. I live on the opposite coast. Newcastle is around 100 miles away from me. Been to the Mayfair dozens of times and loved it. Shame it came to an end. Cheers mate
I like Motorhead but I don't consider myself a huge fan. I have only 4 Motorhead albums and really don't have the urge to check out more from them. However, I respect Lemmy as he was a great lyricist & musician. The same goes to the rest of all the band members. I'm glad you're getting into Motorhead's music, Mike.
Cheers Tony. Might depend which 4 you have you know.
Hey Mickey! That is the absolute brilliance of recorded music. You can newly discover old music. You can go away from an artist and go back to them. It will always be there! Granted, we can’t see a band like Motörhead again. But, with all the video content they created over the decades, you get a taste of it. So, with that said, I’m very happy that Motörhead caught up to you! Cheers!
Cheers dude. I did actually see them in 2005 but I didn't appreciate the occasion unfortunately. Cheers for watching mate
Enjoyed this Mike. There are plenty of bands I've got into after knowing about them for ages over the years. Another Perfect Day is a great album, another one with a bad reputation and I just don't understand why. Cheers
Yeah it's not a bad album at all is it. I think the bloke a bad choice for the band though. It seems he didn't want to gel with them
Great video Michael. Good to see that you are getting into Motorhead. Their early albums are essential. I enjoy most of their catalogue.
Thanks Steph. Took my time 😂 but got there eventually
This was fucking great Mick. Glad you decided to give them a real go again. Like you, I really got them when I noticed about how the lyrics are so intelligent and well written, they've definitely helped me out on a few occasions. By the way, Metropolis is about a film. I fuckjng skip it every time. Hated they played it live every fucking time.
Was interested to see how you got on with Another Perfect Day- the one everyone hated- criminally underrated record that is. It will grow on you.
Iron Fist get's a lot of shit, only has one really weak song (Loser). I love it.
Be good seeing how you like the post 1990 albums.
The four songs on No Remorse are cool, but Snaggletooth and Locomotive fucking rule!! (The latest Live At The Monrreux Jazz Festival album opens with Snaggletooth...)
Orgasmatron is an absolute beast of an album. Mad how he woke up from a Speed binge in a hotel room, wrote it in 15 minutes, went back to bed and couldn't remember anything about it...!
Rock'n'Roll is my favourite album of their'x and is my favourite song ever.
Fuck me I'm glad my Eat The Rich didn't cost me £55!! I have the soundtrack lp as well.
1916 is s great one, but the production let's it down s bit. Still a banger though.
On he Motörhead ranking stream I done, Kris called 1916, March Or Die and Bastards their "Cock Rock Era". Th beard shave lasted onecalbum cover as did those shorts- you should find Scott Ian's story about them, so funny! Don't write off the records after this because there are some fucking stellar records in there believe me, the lyrics get better too, no point leaving a job half finished.
How could you not remember "The Hammer"though?? Haha!!
Great video though!!.
Cheers Dave. Yeah I've had a lot to take in this last fortnight that's my excuse lol. I'm listening to the Motorcast podcast. It's H from Acid Reign interviewing people from the industry who worked with them. It's really good have a look for it. H let's them talk he never butts in.
Hi Mickey!
What a great idea to make this video about Motörhead! I've always liked that temperament in their music, that particular attitude. All those stories, that is the very essence of Rock 'n Roll.
PS: I've got the t-shirt you're wearing as enamel plate hanging next to my Christmas tree, right where it belongs.
Cheers dude! 😎🤘
I'm guessing I'll receive some merch at Christmas the way I've been banging on about them lol. Cheers dude
Been my favourite band since I saw them do overkill on top in 79 . Know what you mean about 1916 but I like it. Going to Brazil and Ramones are 2 of my favourite all time Motorhead songs March or die apart from the shit cover is my least favourite. You need to check the rest of the catalogue out as they fuckin great. The last 5 or 6 albums where Matt Cameron took over production sand up verry well to anything they put out. Enjoyed the video. Motorhead For Life
Cheers mate. I got to say I nearly said Going to Brazil was one that got on my tits lol. To each his own and all that. But yes the first third of the catalogue is awesome
Hello ' bro ' happy.advent ! ❤
Hey please along your line i don't have watch never a beauty recension on that great opera of pubblic enemy plus anthrax ..... become also others disk of self importance whit minor band but no' more I like watch along this days the beauty yiur new work video !
Kissbye ✌
Cheers dude
It’s always better to be late to the party… than never at all Mike! I’d heard ‘Orgasmatron’ back in my teenage years & really enjoyed it… but for whatever reason I never really listened to their other albums until years & years later! I always thought Lemmy was a legend tho! Good to see yer mate!🤘🏻
Cheers mate. I thought they were scary when I first heard them as a kid. I just kept well away lol. That's a great batch of albums to have gotten into this late though so I'm delighted. I just have to fend off people suggesting latter day stuff because it isn't the same 😂
Your take on "1916" is completely right. It´s a transition album, I like the innocence of that period, still the same but different. A bit like "Another...", I love the album to death. Yeah ,in "1991" you can hear a lot of US influences but it´s a step aside that I like. They took another step with "Sacrifice", more to the European (global) sounding stuff they did until the end. "The World Is Yours" is another one high up on my list, their "elderly" masterpiece.
I can see that if that was your first time seeing them and all that goes with it that you're going to have a strong bond with that era. Even though I wasn't into them somehow I'm still nostalgic for these early ones because they were still in my consciousness. Those posters are great you showed me on the email. I bet they are worth a fortune.
same as you mate i never really got them. seen them live twice and thought they were ok . i think ill put some of their cds on in the car tomorrow now just to see.
Make sure to listen to the lyrics and good luck hopefully they gain another fan
'I got mine' is a great track from their album 'Another Perfect Day'...
Yes it is good that
The early Motorhead were very Raw. Lemmy wrote for Ozzy his Lyrics were very deep as he was a amazing writer.
Yeah that rawness is lost after the 80s I think Steve
@@metalmickey Never took to later Motorhead Messed with the lineup Naaaah. It all went
I dated michael 'wurzel' burstons neice back in 85/86 and met lemmy when he and wurzel came round one christmas. I was only 16 and had no idea who they were lol but i do still have the studded wristband lemmy gave me.
Ha that's great dude and what happened with her?
just a teen 'thing' we went our seperate ways but still speak and her mother (michael's ma) still lives in the same house 10 mins from me
Hi Mickey!!! I have the same "issues" with other legacy bands with extensive catalogues, if you want to start getting into them were do you start listening newer? early? mid?. I also began with their first (4) classic ones and still think those are great records, and i think they still sound cool.....the think with the band and their sound is they have a consistent way of sounding even with the changes in their lineup. The other one i have is their last studio album "Bad Magic" and to me they end their career on a high note. cheers
Yeah I never start with a band outside of the early career and I definitely don't need 24 albums lol
I think I need that Record Collector mag, I´ll see if I can find it over here...
His lyrics are fantastic, even a poor English speaker like I am loves them!
"Can´t find no window but I gotta get outside
Can you help me stand? I feels like both my legs have died
What was that injection?´cos I think it´s going wrong
I really like this jacket but the sleeves are much too long"
(from "Back At The Funny Farm" 1983)
Yeah I'm a few bottles in on this video 😂. Let me know if you are struggling to get that record collector magazine.
I never really got into Motorhead either. I've heard a few songs which I thought were ok, but never went any further into their catalog than the singles that were from the mid to late 80s. I always thought Lemmy was cool, but the music just never really did anything for me. I've been meaning to check out more of their stuff, just haven't gotten around to it. I haven't heard any of the top 5 songs you mentioned, so I'll give them a listen. I also remember seeing the Young Ones. I saw a few episodes. MTV aired the show for a while here in the US when I was in high school (mid 80s).
Give those a try and hopefully they have a good impression on you.
@@metalmickey I listened to Snaggletooth and Killed by Death last night. They weren't bad. I get what you are saying about them being a lyrical band, but I usually don't pay attention to lyrics. I usually view the vocals as just another instrument and judge it by how it sounds with the rest of the music rather than what they are actually saying. Might be why I don't like the growling stuff.