"Seized" Slant Six Fix! 1962 Dodge Lancer Multi-Channel Build Kicks Off!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video: Points ignition basics; How ignition point wear and adjustment affects ignition timing; Why I don't pre-lubricate engines; How to un-seize rusty throttles, and more.
If you think you could help with work or parts on this project, or with towing/transportation at various points between western Washington and Ohio, contact: FunctionalHistoriesInc@gmail.com
A couple months ago, Vic over at @DiecastDreamCustoms approached me about getting involved with a project that would involve multiple TH-cam channels and a broken car traveling thousands of miles across the country from Washington state to Dayton, Ohio. It sounded absolutely nuts. So yeah, I'm in - and thus, Project Stone Soup was born.
Donated to Vic by Scott at @heavensmopars , this Lancer is - as you can see - more than a little rough. My place (and also @rocketresto ) will be the first step in the car's long journey. For my part, I'd like to get the car running and movable - and that will also include donating a few parts from my mountain of junk. So let's find out what we've got to work with here. Scott informed me that the slant six is seized, so that sounds like a good place to start.
I worked in a Chrysler-Plymouth dealership in the late 1960s. We used lacquer thinner and a stubby acid brush to free up stuck choke and throttle plates. It works well and leaves no residue. Another common sticking point on Slant 6 engines is the exhaust manifold heat control valve {"heat riser"}. Mopar used to make a special solvent that contained graphite to lubricate these valves. They didn't stay unstock for very long, but the engines run better when they are working properly.
"The Indestructible Slant Six" ... A phrase I have heard a lot in my life...
Chrysler starter motors always make me smile!
This was a roller coaster of an episode!! It runs and moves!!
I love the sound of those old Chrysler starters
Dwell is very important and anybody who messes with points should learn about dwell. It's funny because when I did my Vocational training, it was hardly mentioned. Point Gap was stressed, but Dwell was not. Years later, I decide to tinker with my AMC Gremlin and an old timer mentioned Dwell to me. So, I figured I would look into it. With my point gap set, the car ran fine and had decent power and pickup. However, after checking my Dwell, it was out in left field. Getting the Dwell within spec made a GOOD engine even BETTER. After that, the Gremlin would start instantly, even after sitting for days. One pump to set the choke, turn the key. Acceleration was much more lively and I even noticed my Spark plugs were staying cleaner - longer!!
So folks, if you've got an antique car, and you still run points - introduce yourself to a Dwell Meter. YOU need it!
The problem I’ve had is out of three or four dwell meters I’ve acquired, only one worked, and the measurement was clearly off, as when I went in search of a correct dwell setting, the engine ran worse and worse. Indeed, the specified gap measurement is just a ball park number to get the dwell close, but there are so many variables involved, the dwell meter is supposed to get you the rest of the way there. As I have never had a working one, I’ve done the same thing as I do for everything else… just kinda eyeball it, and it’s probably fine enough. But I’d like to find a working meter.
Agree with you about a GOOD engine running BETTER. I had a '70 Cadillac and that 472 ran the best just below the minimum dwell setting. And the front mounted distributor with the adjustment "window" made tuning--while running--much easier.
I’m impressed! We all are reminded of why the slant 6 has the reputation it does, and congratulations to you Jamie for getting fire back in the beast. What ever that wagon wheel thing in the 1920 is, first time I’ve seen it. I seem to be the only person around who doesn’t have a major hate on for the Holley 1920.
Hey, the one on the ‘63 Valiant is actually pretty decent now that I have cleaned it out somewhat. I’ve dealt with a couple other decent ones. But so, so many that were not decent. I’ll start mailing them to you if you’d like. Haha.
My first car was a 62 Lancer 4 door with a 225 slant 6. Thaks for the memories.
I'm 57 this year I enjoy videos from you
Dad had a 64 Valiant with an aluminum slant 6. We weighed it and it had perfect 50-50 weight distribution. One of the best handling cars I have ever driven. Unfortunately the car had constant points and carb issues, so, he sold it before I could make it mine. Luckily he bought a 68 barracuda 318 that I did make mine eventually.
Great project! I'll be following this one all the way through!
A friend of my father's was about to get into his 1965 Fury when bang, the torsion bar broke. Good thing it happened in the garage and not on the freeway. I empathize with your constant battle with rain and puddles as I am just on the outskirts of Vancouver Canada. Will look forward to following the Lancer on its journey. Thanks Jamie for another soggy but entertaining video
She's a runner! Way to set this in motion Jamie! This is going to be a great journey ✌
Craftsman used to sell a small wrench set that were only 3" long and were thin just for those tight spaces and yes also had 11/32" . If I hadn't mentioned it yet a show I watched poured ATF down the carb with plugs pulled until it blew it out, let it set a while and after flushing it by cranking fired right up with fresh plugs.
One of the most beautiful cars ever made.
I want it!
Hmmm, beautiful ? ok the rear half, the front is a bit odd, I have a 61, don't get me wrong, I like it but I would go with interesting look maybe ;)
Never gets old watching hemi sixes come back to life. Talk about dedication to the cause!!! Greetings from Perth, Australia where it hasn't rained for 6 months or so.
I wish these were anything like your Hemi sixes. But they aren’t… alright, you don’t have to rub it in 😅
a little hello from France. I really appreciate your videos, your style and your humor. you deserve more subscribers. thank you.
People can say what they want, but I think this is a great little car!
You could take a picture of the headliner and a band could use it for their album cover how cool is that be
When my Mom got her driver's Licence in 1964 my Dad bought my mom her First car a 1962 Tan Colored LANCER!
Congrats on the 30,000 subs Jamie! Proud to be one.
Thank you!
Also proud to be amongst the other 30000 fans of the channel my friend.
You've made great steps in getting Vic a running/driving car! Thank you. I'm sure there won't be a shortage of things for the next channel!
westport here young sir.
thank you young sir for another show . had a 63 valiant i think it was a sprint. it slid down a guard rail or two at a vary high rate of speed. man that car was fun. short stiff shocks. oh grabbed my brothers thunderbird bucket's. that what happen's when you go on vacation. and leave them in the rain. they dry out in a valiant. thank you again for the humor olympia.
It's alive. That cap and rotor deserve a place on the wall 😂
Agreed. Haha.
She is rough, but she got heart. Great work making the girl purrrrrrrr again.
Yes, the beloved slant 6 ! Some guys would just remove the distributor when replacing the points, just to reduce their frustration factor. I never did though. And the little wagon wheel gizmo under the carb at 16:12 was probably one of the many gas saving items that were advertised in the back of magazines back then. Turbo-charge your engine! Get a 20 per-cent increase in mileage! Amaze your friends! And a fellow I knew removed a broken torsion bar, welded it up, and reinstalled it. It broke as soon as the car was lowered back down on the ground. 😁A new one was only $19 at the dealer at the time.
Yeah I wouldn’t have attempted that 😅 incredible.
Sikeston, Mo? That is my wife's late Father's home town... I have been there, multiple times. Oh freaking my... Make sure you go to Lamberts, watch out for flying rolls...
All ways go to Lamberts! Throwed rolls rock
I like this project. I subscribed to all the other channels and I hope I can follow this car on its journey!
You can even goin in! I'm sure Vic would love to have ya
Wow, just like my 62 Valiant 2 dr hardtop that sat in a almond/Walnut orchard for 41 years. It has almost no rust but same kind of patina. It was a group home for critters. I think a took about 5 gal. of Walnut and Almond shells out of it. It hand a hole cut in the floor to make room for a 4spd trans. Easy access for citters. The aluminum slant six ran great until the head gasket blew. Now putting together a cast iron short block for it. Hope you've dried out by now.
Yeah that’s what I hear about those aluminum units… The sun is out today, thankfully. Haha.
Ah, this is the best Easter present, a 62 Lancer brought back from the dead! So weird they are awesome! And the slant six surprised me. First I thought it would be stuck and it turned over, and then I thought it probably wouldn't run, and it ran. Never underestimate the leaning tower of power.
I always thought the 2 doors were the weirdest of the weird - both the hardtop and the sedan had the separate little rear quarter window. But I guess if you are going weird you might as well go all the way.
Yep, if you gonna be a bear, be a Grizzly 😅
Greetings from a neighbor in Lacey! Love those old \6 Mopars! My first car was a '64 Dart that I bought for $250 in 1972 when I was 16!
That slant does sound fairly healthy, maybe sticking valve,stuck rings. Good job.
I think a valve is causing the occasional popping, and I think with more run time it may clean up. I am amazed by the lack of oil smoke… I think this engine is really in ok shape.
I've got a 170 in my '60 Valiant, that Lancer should be a hotrod with the extra 55 Cubic inches.... Thanks Jamie, this was a great episode!
After spending my entire in Portland and and the Puget Sound area 45 years of it in Snohomish county I must say watching this video at the end I do not miss the weather. I finally live somewhere that gets sun. I love watching these old engines come back to life 👍🏻
I’d like to find some sun eventually too, but I also don’t want Arizona heat or California cost. I like it here, but a little drier would be ideal.
A legend of a motor We had the R and S models in 🇦🇺 but only in the 4 door sometime they were called the frog 🐸 Valiant here especially in green the first model the R / had a factory 3 speed manual on the floor or you got press button auto .we only had a 1010 delivered in the R Model . Seen slants pulling 13 seconds down the quarter running triple Webers etc in full trim and rego and sitting low all over 👍🏻.
Old slants never die they just rest awaiting the apocalypse
I want one of these lancers bad! In 1963 my dad was stationed in Germany, he wanted a new car upon return to his new duty station he ended up with a 62 lancer slanty with push buttons, he hated it I think they look awesome.
Cool My first "car" was a 66 2 door post with a 225. Had a 55 Fargo as a first vehicle. Loved that little car of all the cool cars I have owned . Wish I still had that one.
What a great collection. The Lancer is perfect for a daily reliable car.
Of all the trucks you have that is the one i wouldn't have sold hopefully you got a good price
I got top dollar… I agree, I loved the thing. But I think I made the right call.
I really enjoyed this one! Great content as always. Sorry I missed the live show today. Catch you next week! Thanks for the video.
I subscribed so I can see if this little guy can make it across the country. Great idea!
I'm new to your channel and to be honest you're already one of my favorites.
Thank you!
You are quite the trooper fighting all that steady rain to get this video finished. I see what they say about Washington state and rain is very true.
The wet side, anyway… we get a lot.
Great save looking forward to seeing more content.....and thanks
I have to confess I've never been a big mopar fan. The trucks are ok but the cars other than the muscle cars have always looked pretty lumpy to me. Especially this lancer! However your channel is quickly becoming one of my favorites. I like your style and humor. Keep up the good work,
I'm sure you will gain subs quickly!
Thank you! Yeah, lumpy is a good description. Haha. Give me a line up of classic A bodies and these early cars won’t be my first or second choice. Or third. But listen, they’re kind of neat anyway.
All hail the mighty leaning tower of POWER!!!!!!
The styling grows on you.
It was inevitable Jamie, you did it again. Congrats
Good.job cool Dodge Plymouth. Nice show cool yard 😃👏👏👏👍👍👍👍
Ah, the gentle rustling of the tappets.
Gotta love a slant, can't kill em with a brick.
Love that body shape, better yhan the plucked chooks that followed.
Got '59 caddy bullet tail lights for mine. Queensland, Oz, I think..
Nice drop a rain too.
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I have never cheered for an engine to start until today.
Better roll the windows up on that beauty, or you might get the floors wet and rusty. ;-) You are my favorite amateur expert and I would recommend you any time. In fact I did just the other day. A guy was working on a '50s Hemi but said he didn't know a thing about them, so I told him about you and your channel. I have no idea if he ever will contact you, but I would recommend you any time.
Yeah that ship has kinda sailed. Haha. Hey, thanks!
" It's getting worse , HOW is it getting worse " !?! That's gotta go on a tshirt dude . I frickin love this channel
I can't wait for my turn. The fact that it runs and should drive, is a huge stepping stone in getting this thing ready to drive to Sikeston!
Had a few of the 225's with 3 off the tree, sooner or later the linkage would hang up between 1st and 2nd and you would have to get under and bang the shifter free LOL
Oh yeah. Mine was a 318 3 on the tree. It was so fun to drive, until you tried to bang second… it would always bind up like that. Good times.
Another kick ass video I used to own one of those things I pulled it out of a junkyard and she ran not for long, but she ran nice video
I love the old A bodies. I think the Lancer was the sexiest one of the bunches until the Barracuda showed up!
I remember seeing a lot of these cars as a boy in Detroit. They were inexpensive and back then, everyone 'bought American. In Detroit, that meant the Big 3. Funny thing, they [Lancers] reminded me of washing machines back then! 🤣
I'm definitely looking forward to the next video and the challenge!
Your channel is great. Really enjoy watching the stuff that you do.
That patina is slick for sure!
Brings back memories as a 62 Lancer was my fisrt start and run way back in '73. It sat in a back yard for 5 years. Mouse house in the water jackts from a missing freeze plug,and over an inch of thick sludge on the rockers and valve train,but it ran!!! I should of left the sludge alone because trying to clean it up caused more harm than good. Pieces went down in the oil pan and kept clogging the pressure relief valve causing that bright red warning light to come on! After my younger brother shot out a rear door window with his bb gun, i gave up on it!
Yeah… you’ll have that with the horrible sludge mess. And, ouch!
😂😂😂 you're having a MUCH wetter spring than I am in Wrangell, Alaska 😂😂😂
Prelube, you are correct to the keyboard warriors! Great video as always!
My Dad and I changed out a Slant 6 in a 65 Dart Station wagon. It was being driven down the road at 60 to 65 when the engine quit. Dad said that there was a device that would kill the engine if it was not broken in correctly. I am not sure, but I was really mad at my wife's sister for ignoring what I said about breaking it in properly. That car was a really good one.
Coolest body lines ever
Tell the keyboard warriors to "bite me". Happy Easter. Thanks for the vid.
I would have still put oil down the plug holes before even seeing if stuck . Start it on 2 stroke for better lube ⛽️. 👍🏻🇦🇺 even put a heater under the sump to warm the oil is a big help when starting a cold 🥶 motor . 😃. 👍🏻🇦🇺.
Now remember when you put new points in ALWAYS replace the condenser
Secret sauce. I thought I was the only person doing that.
I absolutely love these revival videos...main reason I subd to you a while back
I remember these being called and only saw them as the "Plymouth Valiant".
I think the Lancer was built in much smaller numbers. I like the look of the front end more. But either is neat.
The 62 Lancers are so cool
Good job Jamie! B oy that one needs some work. Sorry to see the power wagon go. I share the same anniversary date as you, Happy Anniversary to you and your wife!
I didn't pre lube my V10 and it was parked for 15 years and there was no mouse house in the radiator so that made things a whole lot easier 🤠
Jealous. Lol.
My friend's slant stopped running. For whatever reason I checked the oil level, and there was none showing on the stock. Four quarts later, I tried starting it, and it hit, to run another ten years. Stout indeed. Great episode.
😮 that’s a good one…
Sorry but I straight up belly Laughed when the gas shower happend......best channel ever!!!!!
Happy easterto all yours, lol i was scott's 1000th sub . Mopar all day OK
Ya know Jamie l really get a kick out of some of your an ticks very entertaining for me. Don't let the rain stop ya lol. Ya going to get those brakes working though.
I actually like the body style, always have. Sad to see the old Power Wagon leave :-( The replacement 'is' a lovely shade of green :-)
“Was” would also be an appropriate descriptor 😅 I know… me too. Loved that truck. But it is what it is. I think I made the right call. I bought the back half of a ‘69 Charger with some of the proceeds…
Love that body style
I can't decide if I like that car from the b pillar back or not. Kinda cool, kinda quirky. Regardless, you gotta love the Exner years. Nothing else like them on the road.
Slant six: that is all...
Thank you very much for watching.
Being a early A body owner I love it.But it really isn't easy on the eyes lol.
In Australia they were called Chrysler Valiants, 4 door only, the R and S series, they sold as many as the could get, from Canada I think.
Love your content and humour dude First time watcher now Subscribed.
Great videos. Now I'm late for supper trying to get this in before we eat. Thank You.
Alright, that’s my bad 😅 thanks!
love the lancer. i have the australian version the 1962 chrysler valiant here at home in newzealand very rare here . cheers another great vidya
You and Vic are a couple of my favorite channels. I'll be lucky enough to see this car in person. I might be forced to turn wrenches on it. Ugh.
😅 well, good luck with that! Haha. Thanks.
I have to admit, climbing through the window into a wet seat, in soaked clothes, only to have the car roll off the trailer backwards -then start……that made the video. Shit happens when you work on old cars.
It sure does… good times. Hey, that’s my favorite Dodge tin grille in your channel picture! Nice.
@@DeadDodgeGarage that’s my D100 “old #97” it’s a 1975 D100 Custom Special slant Six with an 833 4speed OD transmission that’s in the rebuilding Queue.
Small and far away. Father Ted low key funny
Really like your approach
I tend to do everything your doing 👏👏👏
Olympia Washington. Hello from Sultan Washington.
Woah, is that a Mac SE? Hey!
@@DeadDodgeGarage sure is! I love my cars from the 60’s and my computers from the 80’s. Hehe. I just picked up a 61 Mercury Comet from Spokane a few weeks ago that I’m starting to bring back to life after a 25 year rest.
Well, I had a 1960 Dodge Dart with a slant six (parts still stacked somewhere 🙄), the Dart was still a rather large car (Cold War Motors showed the bottom half is the same as the Plymouth Fury!)
Pre-lubing a slant 6 by somehow driving the oil pump without the rest of the engine turning? Wut??
If anyone is thinking that's a thing, they've never had to change an oil pump on a slant. The oil pump is external, and is gear driven directly off the camshaft, not the bottom of the distributor. So unless the entire rotating assembly of the engine is turning, the oil pump doesn't pump. And yes, that gear is a weak point, as I discovered roughly 47 years ago. You may now guess how I know. Keep up the good work.
Indeed. Sounds like good times. Haha. I can’t remember now if that comment was on a video where I revived a slant or something else. But my point stands.
Jamie, I have a pair of hinges, and a few other parts from my 61
Thank you so much for being willing to contribute!
@mikeystoy, I'm sure Vic will appreciate any and all help making this happen. Even if you were to send parts to one of the channels working on it you'll be helping and acknowledged!
very cool car patina and all ......
That thing is impressive. If it was going toward Ontario, Canada, I could be a little more helpful, but I'll comment and watch his video's to support everybody!
Beautiful
Wow amazing it even tries to fire up wow