Yep… that’s what the well known and regarded Studebaker engine builder installed that leaked and blew out left and right. We’re not going back to them.
@@DeadDodgeGarage Sketchy as it is, the cup style plug and green loctite sleeve retainer applied to a freshly sanded clean and wiped down with acetone block bore will certainly hold. God help you if you need to replace them later though.
Studebaker afficionado here, I own three. I presently have a 1941 President 4dr, a 1950 Commander 4dr and a 1955 President Coupe, all running and on the road. I love what you are doing here, these old Studebakers need to be preserved in operating condition. Great video.
Awesome! I am not a Studebaker guy (which I’m sure is obvious from one look at my channel. Haha.) But I have finally gained an appreciation for this car after my long battle with it. I might have to own one for myself some day.
Oh yeah, Like a lot of old guys I’ve had a thing for Studebakers, my first car was a 53 coupe. Heavily influenced by many photos of Bonneville, I envisioned mine with a 392, which was way beyond my skill set and monetary resources. The Studey’s long gone, but the memories live on.
My grandparents when we lived on the farm with them both had Studebaker’s my grand mother had a Silverhawk and my grandfather a golden hawk we used to take to Silver Hawk to the drive-in theater out in Auburn mass all the time if not that it was my Grammys Hudson she love to drive her cars and also the greatest Red Sox fan
Coolest of all eras... so insane to think about my youth as an epoch of the best in diy auto mechanics and to see you Jamie are just psychotic enough to revive the Hawk, well that's just 'plum crazy' to boot... keep on shifting on the tree or the floor and I'll watch for sure.❤ Thanks for sharing the ride.🎉
@@DeadDodgeGarage nice body shape.. if i wasnt very busy, & bought one. it would definatly get a 351 clevo. 5 sp zf. & 9"'.. simple cheap reliable.. ausie..
What an incredible find ‼️ Such a rare car 🏆 Great diagnostic skills , Jamie You probably saved that engine , & transmission from , an unnecessary tear down
cool toy to be able to play with especially a supercharged one. Definitely one to take your time on and hopefully do it right that's definitely a nice machine looks like where it lived at it's pretty rust free for the most part. not super cancerous like so many of the Studes suffered from in Midwest
Maybe JBWeld on the freeze plugs? Pole Barn Garage demonstrated a technique on how to put holes in for the seats very similar to the soldering iron; Dalton uses a screwdriver with a MAP gas torch, and pearse from underneath through the pad and carpet. Great job with the quick Studebaker's history with the V8 engine. Great video, and your cadence is perfect with just the correct amount of venting the frustrations and elations.
Studebaker designed the m35 6x6, and the military used the same basic truck, albeit updated for 70 years. Also, they had the first 200 mph production car.
Grandfather had a red and white Hawk, father had 2 49 Hudsons. Awesome cars of the past. Happy for you she is done, long time coming. Good one as usual.😊🎉
At least you have a decent shop to do this in. I once did a vega conversion to V8 in my driveway with no cover, no lift, just an engine hoist and floor jack. It was an exercise in problem solving, to be sure. But in the end it was worth all the pain and frustration. I drove it for four years before selling it on. And it was terrifying the whole time. 325 hp in a car weighing 2600 pounds is stupid fast and lightning quick
Oh yeah… that’s very close to what my Cobra replica was as far as power to weight. It was just too much. I’ve done more than my fair share of engine and transmission swaps outside in the rain. Very happy to have what I have now.
I learned to drive in a 49 Stude pu. It had a 3 on the tree with overdrive and terrible 6 pump brakes. It was hideously underpowered even for the day with its flathead tiny 6. But i loved that truck. Lots of great memories. I. 1962 my dad removed the bed and put on a home made plywood camper. We made over a thousand mile trip exploring the entire state of Washington, and parts of Idaho. Always will have a soft spot for Studes and the Hawks are among my favorites. Very enjoyable vid. And heck, isn't Stude a shirt-tail cousin to Mopar...and almost an honorary?
That’s so cool. Well, Stude didn’t become part of AMC. It was part of the plan until the other guys learned just how financially screwed Studebaker Packard were. So they remained on their own until they couldn’t remain any longer - and therefore didn’t end up part of the family. That’s awesome! I want to build a camper kind of like that some day. Probably on a slightly bigger truck though.
I like seeing the rare oddities from other car manufacturers, especially the older models. They all had their own way of doing things back then and wanted to be the top innovator. I also enjoyed the editing and the way you presented the project. And yes, you seem to have a unique presentation voice . . it makes things interesting. Keep up the good work. And hire a young Dutch boy to stick his finger in the dam so you don't have to wade water to work, LOL.
Thanks for taking me along on your bumpy (repairs) ride. It is a cool car, and is fun to see it be made roadworthy again. I have a favorite brand & model not really represented on your channel, but I appreciate the enthusiasts behind them all as the diversity is always good. I've also come to appreciate the problem solving that goes on with the other brands as it only expands my automotive knowledge should I be corned by the unexpected issue. Party On!
I definitely make my favorite brand known around here… I love them in spite of being flawed cars. But I definitely like and appreciate many cars made by other manufacturers, and I especially enjoy these funky, long dead makes. And I think anyone that is approaching things in the “right” way is always learning - whatever the source material may be. Thank you!
Yes, a lot of mopar guys also dig studebakers. Especially a manual transmission. Love, love, love this car. Good to see you pick away at all those problems.
Apparently the Studebaker engine takes Welch plugs instead of the cup type freeze plugs that newer engines use. Put some sealer around the edge, put it in the hole convex side out, then dimple the center in with a ball peen hammer. This will expand the plug and wedge it in the hole. :>)
They used the wrong kind of plug. The correct plug is a flat disc with only a slight crown. No cup. As stated above install with the crown out then hit with a hammer to seat it. Mopar flat sixes used those as did a lot of others.
@@davidhawken1301 I do understand. I removed the four peened welch plugs that did not remove themselves from the engine. The plugs I installed were not that. I got it.
Short attention span millenials aside, Jamie, I also watched this one from stem to stern and quite enjoyed it. Of course, I'm a well-trained viewer, what with being a "charter" member of channels such as Cold War Motors, where Scott routinely runs over an hour on his weekly show (at our insistence!). Yes, I'm also a lifetime (60+ years) Mopar guy, but I too share a fascination with other smaller marques as you do as well. I'm impressed with your channel and as a fairly new arrival to it, I have much homework to do. Seems worth the effort though, so congrats on the Studesuccess! - Ed on the Ridge
Thank you Ed! It’s not necessarily that people don’t watch the longer videos - actually they do pretty well. It’s more like… When I put days and days of work into a video, it never seems to do as well as something I just throw together quickly. This has been a pretty consistent return - but this video is bucking that trend. Probably because it’s a supercharged Studebaker, and it’s awesome. Haha.
Studebakers were one of those cars that always caught your eye! Actually, I guess they still do! Too bad theu couldn't compete against the big 3, but thats just kinda how the car game works!
That’s such a sweet setup….so much cooler to keep the old Stude’ engine with the belt driven hair dryer up front and add an OD 5 speed trans than just LS swapping the thing like everybody else would.
Love those old studeys. Always wanted one. Best part of this video was every part of this video. Cause you got a wonderful attitude bro. Dude with a ‘tide in a Stude!
I like the Stud. I'm not much for some of their engineering, but I like the car itself. If it were mine, I am pretty sure I'd be building the 40K mile 440 I have bagged up in my shot for it.. Never had any issues with core plugs in a 440!!! No need for that wind-whirler. I wonder how big a set of meets would fit between those rear quarters??? I really do like this car, Jamie...
I have enjoyed this project. I love old Studebakers. You have overcome dozens of frustrating problems and you didn't give up. You have earned my respect. With me being a retired mechanic who used to own a 68 GTX, a 69 GTX and a 69 Charger I am tried and true mopar nut. But starting a family I had to give up my toys to survive and make ends meet. I always told myself when I retire I will buy another 69 charger and relive my glory days. But with 68-70 chargers going for the price of a small house I have abandoned that dream. These days finds me working on a Smart car for a play toy. Such is life and you take your enjoyment where you can find it and afford it. You have a lot of great vehicles so enjoy them to the fullest and don't get rid of them. Watching your labor of love going down your driveway on someone's else's trailer is a nightmare that you will never get over. You have saved a very rare car indeed and it sounds awesome !
It’s not my car. I am realizing from the comments I’ve gotten that I didn’t make obvious enough references to that fact. I did in the first video on the car so I was figuring been there, said that - but that was a long time ago… thanks!
Wow, she is a beauty and you have come so far don’t despair she is almost there. Just think how cool it will be to to take her to the car shows and tell these youngsters about one of the best looking cars of the sixties.
Actually, I'm a Chevy guy, but enough bragging , I just found your channel and find it quite enjoyable, I love old iron no matter what it is even a Studebaker
Giday dude, What a fantastic video. Many Thanks for th time you have committed to making such a huge project come back to life.. You must have a very supportive wife & family. Its allso great to see th country side you live in, while test driving your projects..👍 Your neighbors must all so be very tolerant ppl.😲 Thanks again for the great content, pls keep up th great work👏👏 Many Cheers from Australia..🍺
Funny enough, it’s often me that has to be tolerant of the neighbors… I’ve got some junk collected up, but at least it’s cool junk! And they know who to ask when they need car help. So it is working out well. As far as Mrs. Jamie… one could not possibly hope for a partner who not signs off on all the crazy and downright stupid financial decisions I’ve made in the pursuit of all of this. I am very lucky to be able to do what I’m doing. Thanks for watching! Lots more to come.
Hey man, I applaud your dedication, I was "in the trenches" for many years. Studebakers are a bit of a challenge. That looks really solid, and Definately worth the Effort.
I completely agree. I actually drove the car for real yesterday! I am starting to think this was all worth it. I can’t wait to get it back to its owner. Thank you!
I stumbled upon your channel a couple days ago and I’m hooked. I own a 66 442 (4 speed just the way you like) for the last 31 years. I also own a 2016 scat pack 392 Challenger so I have love for Mopar Also. I find you very talented and entertaining at the same time. I’ve spent the last 2 days watching your videos and can’t stop. Keep up the great work and keep them coming.
Now you're talking. People ask me what's my favorite car, and this one is the one that almost clicked all the boxes. The '61 engine (and factory 4 speed transmission) and TT rear end, but in the '57 Golden Hawk. I like the body design of the Golden Hawk over the GT Hawks. Yep, '57 with '61 running gear..... a match made in heaven for me..... lololol Good stuff man, keep up the good work.
I prefer the Golden Hawk too. The hard top is much prettier in my eye. I like that earlier fin design as well. Beyond that of course, they’re extremely similar cars! Thanks!
It seems like every video of yours reminds me of something that I've seen or done myself. In this case, my dad reinstalled old freeze plugs on a 318 many years ago, and this didn't work out well. We were heading down the highway and all of a sudden one of the plugs let go and that made our trip unhappy (middle of the winter, pre-cell phone days...). Long story short, the lesson was learned: ALWAYS install NEW freeze plugs.
Love the Studebaker. My Dad pined for a Hawk for many years before finally giving up that dream. Now I see why. Great looking car. Hope you de-gremlin it easily. I know from experience that the rubber freeze plugs need to be changed about every year or two. They degrade and pop out.
Wow, just WOW! What a challenge you have on this. I noticed some of the comments did not acknowledge the impossibility of getting parts or technical support, and were critical of the some of the improvisation that went on. I have built and worked on many machines, cars, trucks, and motorcycles that were so far out of production and popularity that EVERYTHING had to be re-engineered or substituted to make them work again. To those who have never worked on a 1921 John Deere tractor or a 1938 Duesenberg, go easy on a true craftsman like Jamie who is performing miracles on this project, and note that on the Mopar products, that have tons of OEM and after-market support, he does not have to fabricate every part he uses.
Hey, I recently found your channel, and I enjoy your videos, cars, sense of humor, and the mechanical (and other) issues you are dealing with. Living in South Louisiana most of my life, I have a curiosity about people who live in an area where so many people seem to have a bizarre political outlook. Anyway, that particular Stude was a GREAT car to feature. I like Mopars best, but Studebakers like the one in this video have amazing styling and their way of approaching performance matches the "futuristic" style of the model.
I think people everywhere have a bizarre political outlook… I think the right answer on almost all issues is somewhere in the middle. And I also think we can (and should) ignore all of that in our daily lives and focus on our own operations. That’s what I’m here doing. I completely agree on the Stude - it’s awesome! Thank you for watching. I appreciate it.
The plunger pin on the hood needs to be adjusted down to go deeper into the latch assembly. Then there needs to be a hole drilled in it to accommodate a pin. Hawk hoods are famous for flying up and wrapping itself onto the top. Never had that kind a problem with core plugs at all.I drive a 61 Studebaker V8 pick up daily and is newest vehicle I own. My car I drive is 1950 Hudson straight 8. Studebakers are dependable and easy to work on and get parts for. If you keep it and be patienct with it, It will run forever with just a little bit of attention.
I am but the humble mechanic piecing this one back together - and cleaning up multiple messes left for me by the builder of the engine. Good to know on the hood - it clearly doesn’t latch well.
Enjoyed the video. As a kid in the mid ‘60’s, a man in my neighborhood restored c.1930 Packards (he had a finished roadster he showed, and he was working on a dual cowl phaeton) His daily driver was a then new Hawk - I thought it was pretty cool. Nice guy - he took the time to talk about his cars to us kids. Those Packards seemed stately and ancient them, and a thirty five year old car today is what, an ‘88 Diplomat?
Yep… I’ve seen a Geo Metro with a collector plate… when I got into A bodies they were old cars not many people were still using. I just thought they were cool looking and unique - and the price was always right. Now they are 50 years old… just crazy to think about. Because at the same time, they don’t look ancient like those Packards did then. Of course those are almost 100 now…
What a gem! Great work and learnin's right thar matey! I've always liked the designs of the Hawks and Commanders, rolling art, love that the speedo on that goes to 160mph, kind of optimistic but cool never the less. There's a Commander in my neighbourhood that is on a Vette frame with a sb 350 (LS?), a beauty beast of a rescue. Those expanding rubber frost plugs are the cat's meaow when yer stuck for a solution, I had a '63 Rambler Ambassador with a straight 6 that I had to re-plug and did them all with those with the honest intent of doing it right when I had time and money, well that never happened but managed to squeeze nearly 20k out of it without issues before it departed to another home, just don't over-heat :P Great vid and am fully entertained, big cheers from new fans in the great PNW Canada!
I am an old Studebaker guy. The freeze plugs should be the flat type, not the cup type. The flat ones are curved and will flatten out will expand and tighten in the hole. Thus the stepped shoulder inside.
Great Video! Haha. Patience is a virtue and necessary for us Mopar fans. If you want easy, get a small block chevy😀. These cars aren’t Mopar adjustable like you are used to, but I see you know the rule “If it doesn’t fit, make it fit”👍
Really enjoyed this video, great attitude, liked and subscribed. (I particularly like underdog manufacturers, which is why I drive a Triumph from 1962, it too has fins).
Love your dead pan humor and outlook when you get frustrated. I laughed out loud when you said you didn’t want to see that car ever again. I agree with you just watching the video. Cool looking car, but definitely a Frankenbaker!! 😂😂
In 1988 worked as tech on cars,trucks & off road racers. A customer had 2 57 Studebaker Gold Hawk with Packston Super Charger and Red Firehawk both in Exc----Exc+ cond❤❤❤
One of my favourite cars, needless to say Studebaker put out the very first line of pony cars long before GM or anyone else, Studebaker Lark Daytona, Supercharged 289 that dusted and still does all comers big block or small.
I had read a lot about the shortcomings of the Stude design due to the small sizing of the head and other components. So I was definitely not expecting it to do what this thing does… it’s awesome!
I enjoyed the series back in the day. My first car was a 1963 Studebaker Lark with the 289 and a 4-speed and the Paxton supercharger. What a fun car that was I had or approximately 10 years and sold it which the hell I had it back
9:29 No problem. Freezer plugs are easily fixed with a branch from a birch. 👍That's what I did on an old VOLVO 444 PV from 1956. It had been outside for a winter without antifreeze and when I was going out to drive and the plug flew and all the water with it. I fixed that with a birch branch and a knife.🌳🗡 I cut the branch out to taper and then hammered it 🔨in with water 💧and started.🔑 This went on for about 5 minutes and the wood swelled and sealed the leak and I was able to run the PV again.🚙👌 I should add that this was 1976 and I was 16 years old, had 5 old cars and drove on a track made in a large hilly field. Morris Minor 1959, Ford Cortina 1964, DKW 1000S 1962, SAAB 96 2-stroke 1963, VOLVO 444 PV 1956. The change between cars is satisfactory. 🤤By the way, the neighbor had a Studebaker Hawk until about 1973 and then sold it. Ever since I saw it, I thought this was the coolest car I've ever seen and still do,😮 even though I've driven SAABs since 1977 and still do. 😎👍
YOU ARE NOT A QUITTER DAMN GOOD JOB MAN . I AM A SUCKER FOR 66 OLDS 98'S WITH THE 425 BIG BLOCK THE OLD 425 IS PHENOMENAL ENGINE LOOK IT UP .. BOUGHT IT FOR 600 BUCKS DID THE WORK RAN 2 1/4 PIPES TO REAR NO MUFFLERS RAN THE SNOT OUT OF IT ...
It makes me feel so much better knowing that you feel the same way about Studebaker as the old man and I do. What a nightmare 🤣 I've always wanted one of these cars, but after working on that 63 pickup, and watching you have the same experience, I really don't want one anymore 🤣
Nice car! I have a 59 Silverhawk with a supercharged 259 and a 4 speed. Its the earlier golden hawk super charger setup, wish I had a Paxton like you as it would be nice to run a four barrel. Regardless the car still hauls! lol
Neighbor kid had a new black 65 Hawk with red interior and 4 speed, purchased from the local garage/repair shop/gas station. What a beautiful car, until he rolled it. Love these old Studmaker Hawks. LOL
You really stick with a problem. The humor shown when dealing with setbacks is very entertaining - sometimes I feel guilty laughing so hard over your misfortune. Cool car, though.
I think I read that those engines were made with over built internals in anticipation of the future super chargers. That the rocker assemblies were a direct swap to Cadillac engines of the time and sought by drag racers using Cadillac engines because Studebaker's were better. Unique and rare cars.
I read that they were built with the idea of high-compression/high octane to make power, but it ended up being cubic inches instead. There's a guy that has a big boost turbo on his '63 or '64 Stude.
I am *not* a Studebaker expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I did a lot of reading on the Studebaker V8 back when I got into this project - and that is not the case as I understand it. Their goal from the beginning with the V8 was for it to be cheap and economical like their six cylinder, but really to be a more modern engine than what they had to try and keep with the times. While they were copying (intentionally, unashamedly copying - Studebaker engineers visited GM engine production facilities and were allowed to copy their notes) the new Cadillac V8 design, they did not copy the fine details… despite the block being the same physical size, they scaled the internals of their engine much, much smaller, and did not use a modern “slipper” piston design, or even more modern casting techniques. The components are tough. These engines are built like a brick shit house. They’re heavy… but they are hamstrung by a tiny cylinder head, and limited to a small cubic inch size thanks to their design. The supercharger was utilized as a means to add horsepower when they could not afford to do so in any other way. The Studebaker engine lent itself to boost handily, but it was not designed for that intentionally.
As far as I remember there are two sorts of frost plugs. Cup type and Lens type. The holes for cup types have no seat and the plug is made slightly bigger than the hole (interference fit). You just bang them in with the cup “rim” facing towards you till the rim is flash with the edge of the block. Blocks for lens type plugs have a recessed seat. You put the plug in with the dome outwards, bang it up n till it seats (using a socket or tube nearly the same size as the plug) and after it seats you get a smaller punch and punch in the dome a bit to expand the plug so it stays in. So the lens type won’t stay in without that final step. Maybe that was your problem? Anyway this is all too late and glad to see you fixed it anyway. The Hawk sounds fantastic by the way!
Yes. That’s what the engine builder did, and that’s what blew all that coolant on my floor (the first two times.) All of this is discussed in a follow up video. Thanks!
That’s my daughter. Haha. She’s not a car girl, but she does occasionally come out to the shop and hang for a bit. If she wants to get her hands dirty some day I’ll be here. And if she doesn’t, then unlike me, she might actually have a manageable financial future 😅
I had a 413 Mopar truck engine that used those disc type freeze plugs. I put then upside down. They promptly fell out while the engine was warming up. One of the old engine guys come over and showed me how to install them. He also showed me that use hi-tac by permatex don't use silicone.
It’s nice to watch your channel and not have every aspect of blow by blow detailed information on every your doing I suppose some people like to watch what 300 items came out of a trunk and how many mice nests are in the car lol😂
I used to think that leaving as much detail out as I do might be a problem - but no one needs to watch every little bit of carpet I trim, or ever drop of antifreeze I pour in an engine that is destined to leak back out onto the ground. Haha. I don’t have the attention span for that. What I’m really doing in my videos is telling a story, and giving some helpful little tips along the way. Thanks!
Regarding Studebaker ... of the many B-17 Superfortresses I've seen (and taken rides in ... including helping the crews prop-over the 1,820 C.I.D. 9-cylinder engines!), I'd say that 80% of the R-1820 engines on the surviving B-17s were built under license by Studebaker, not by Curtiss-Wright which designed/developed them. I guess Studebaker's management didn't believe in war profiteering if they exited WW2 without sufficient capital to survive the 50s and 60s. That Hawk is AWESOME and the design is GORGEOUS, right up there with the '68 Charger. Those beauties make the ugly SHIT on the roads today look even more hideous.
@Dead Dodge Garage - I first saw one of these on Cold War Motors TH-cam channel and fell in love with the lines - the long hood, the seemingly comparatively small passenger compartment and those angel wings that to me gave it the look of a dragon hunching down and getting ready to fly. From the rear, you can (almost) see hints of 57-59 Plymouth and from the side it looks a little like the Volvo P1800S' big brother - even from a three-quarter profile one can see certain similarities with that big central grille, long hood and raked roof with its big curved rear glass. The Study has the win on fins though, for sure! Mate - I watched that from start to finish because I really love the look of the Studebaker Hawk and she appears to be a good solid example....and I was intrigued to see how she ran and drove. I totally relate to your inner pain when it comes to the way the beast was fighting you. I own a Triumph Stag - and that should be enough to have you suddenly nodding your head in agreement. I gave it a name - Stacey. Stacey the Stag. I don't think she likes it much because if I use it too often in one day, she breaks something. If I leave her sitting longer than a week, things don't want to work until I coax them. Oh, she'll start up ok, but other things like electrical gremlins creep in and the wipers won't go or the high beam stops working until I turn the right hand indicator on...but then again, that could just be the Lucas (the Prince of Darkness) wiring loom. However, in late 2018 and early 2019, I had a long bout of issues that cropped up. First it was the inlet manifold gasket, then the carburettor, then the exhaust system gave up, the sway bar bushes detonated (they were red polyurethane) and tore the sway bar out of its brackets, then the driver's seat collapsed, the fabric hood frame broke a stay, the alternator stopped alternating, went nuclear and cranked all the voltage it could through everything and boiled the battery, blew nearly every bulb and fried the coil. Then in April 2019, I was driving her along a coast road that had seen some bad weather, but did not see where the tarseal suddenly ended and dropped 18 inches into a crater that spanned half the width of the road until I was right on the damn thing. In she went, smashed the clutch slave cylinder, jammed the clutch fork so that the clutch was half engaged (so I couldn't drive it without a clutch because it was slipping), mashed the new mufflers against the floorpan and left me stranded in the middle of nowhere. Got her back at the end of May and in the first drive the day after I got her home, the brake master cylinder shat itself. One corner I had brakes, the next one they went to the floor. Drove it home slowly, parked it in the garage and that's where it stayed for two years. I was done with the damn thing! In late 2021, I resurrected the brakes, replaced the drag strut bushes and got her back on the road...and in March 2022, the diff grenaded on me in rather spectacular fashion, some 90 miles from home and way out the back of beyond in the countryside. None of the above tells of the other parts like door and window seals, headlights, tail lights, new distributor and electronic ignition and a pile of trim pieces, clips and detailing that have gone into the beast during my ownership. Talk about being thankful for the money and time I poured into her? Nah - she's a bloody attention-seeking old battle-axe that just likes to lull me into a false sense of security before dropping another bomb in my wallet. The car has cost me more in repairs and parts since owning it than what I paid for it, yet it looks little different. The thing is though, I take one look at her sleek lines and turn the key to hear that V8 rumble into life and all is forgiven. I cannot let her go despite all she's cost me - I enjoy driving her too much for that....and I love the looks she gets when she's out and about. People love to see an old V8-powered vehicle doing its thing and the rarer it is, the more they like it. Stags and Studys aren't commonplace nowadays and people - even young kids - love seeing something that looks so wildly different from the hum-drum, boring, slab-sided, mundane, largely grey or silver, cookie-cutter, mass produced everyday vehicles that fill today's roads. Gotta keep them going and out where they can be seen and appreciated....and maybe one day one of those kids will design the vehicles of tomorrow with a bit of imagination and passion instead of a ruler and a budget. All the best!
Wow... just reading that made my spine hurt, and left me searching my memories trying to find if any car has ever fought me that hard. No... not by quite a stretch. I've had some rough times with cars, but wow. I laughed at the Lucas electrics bit, not so much for most of the rest of that. Anyway, I agree with your thoughts on the Stude. It's a supremely interesting car. Handsome from some angles, slightly awkwardly proportioned from others, but overall just neat. Quite unlike anything else one is likely to see on the road, and that's even comparing to the classics I tend to drive around. One more observation, it's interesting how many times Cold War Motors and I are mentioned together! There must be something to that.
@@DeadDodgeGarage - On the CWM comparison, it could very well be because the bloke who does the filming (Scott) has a yard full of mainly 50s Chrysler / Dodge / Plymouth etc vehicles, with a few 60s versions and the odd old Chev or Buick or two. He has quite a few mates and at least one of them is as mad about Mopar stuff as Scott is. He's also into the weird and smaller manufacturers that nobody wants to collect - the likes of Kaiser, Frazer, Hudson etc plus a couple of European makes - Peugeot, Citroen - again because they are cars that were once plentiful around where he is in Alberta, but have basically disappeared completely. Scott has restored several over the years and his "ok, that's not perfect but it will do" has me going "the bloody thing's absolutely perfect mate! In fact it was perfect half an hour ago before you got out the magnifying glass...". But underneath everything, the bloke is a true Mopar man and the 1961 Fury he rebuilt over 6 years is a sight to behold, let alone the '60 and '67 Furies he also has, or the '37 Chev that has travelled only 34k miles (that had one cylinder that was so badly rust pitted that they chose to resleeve it to keep the original engine in the car). His attention to detail borders on the extreme, but the results speak volumes. As to Stacey, I've lost count of the number of times I have sworn she is going up for sale, but to date I have been unable to do it. Part of me wants some return out of all the money I've spent, but that's a double-edged sword as the more I drive her, the more there's a chance something else will go wrong! When the brake master went, I could not even look at the car for over four months and when the diff destroyed itself and it rocked forward and pulled the handbrake cable tight - locking the rear wheels at 30mph and sliding the car off the road - while dumping hot diff oil onto the exhaust so that it caught fire, part of me didn't want to go get the fire extinguisher and instead just stand there and watch her burn. However, I really didn't want to see such a beautiful car die. I will say that a 1kg (2.5lb) fire extinguisher doesn't go very far, so I now have a 2kg one installed in all three of my classics. Call it cheap insurance. I'll keep my eye out in any future vids for a sighting of the Stude - that's for sure. Such an unusual, unique, cool, different and lovely thing to behold. Glad she's running again, mate. Yet to find others in the series of her progress since....if there are any!...but I'll keep looking. All the best
The disk style plug is whats needed.
Yep… that’s what the well known and regarded Studebaker engine builder installed that leaked and blew out left and right. We’re not going back to them.
I think the ones you need look like a symbol, no lip. You install them dome out and then peen the center in. Us older dudes remember them! Lol
@@DeadDodgeGarage Sketchy as it is, the cup style plug and green loctite sleeve retainer applied to a freshly sanded clean and wiped down with acetone block bore will certainly hold. God help you if you need to replace them later though.
Maybe flush and test cooling system with water before adding $30 in coolant?
look like pontiac valve covers.. but, what do i know,, im an ausie,, i drive ford 4x4rs, & a dodge challenger r/t.,, @@DeadDodgeGarage
Studebaker afficionado here, I own three. I presently have a 1941 President 4dr, a 1950 Commander 4dr and a 1955 President Coupe, all running and on the road. I love what you are doing here, these old Studebakers need to be preserved in operating condition. Great video.
Awesome! I am not a Studebaker guy (which I’m sure is obvious from one look at my channel. Haha.) But I have finally gained an appreciation for this car after my long battle with it. I might have to own one for myself some day.
Oh yeah, Like a lot of old guys I’ve had a thing for Studebakers, my first car was a 53 coupe. Heavily influenced by many photos of Bonneville, I envisioned mine with a 392, which was way beyond my skill set and monetary resources. The Studey’s long gone, but the memories live on.
Ahhhh, Good Times!
My grandparents when we lived on the farm with them both had Studebaker’s my grand mother had a Silverhawk and my grandfather a golden hawk we used to take to Silver Hawk to the drive-in theater out in Auburn mass all the time if not that it was my Grammys Hudson she love to drive her cars and also the greatest Red Sox fan
Coolest of all eras... so insane to think about my youth as an epoch of the best in diy auto mechanics and to see you Jamie are just psychotic enough to revive the Hawk, well that's just 'plum crazy' to boot... keep on shifting on the tree or the floor and I'll watch for sure.❤
Thanks for sharing the ride.🎉
Cool old Stude dude! Thanks for sharing your journey with it with us!👍
Jamie, my heart went out to you with all your suffering caused by that car. Got to say though that is a sharp looking car!
Definitely a rare car you don't see that often. Great job dude, that didn't look very fun at points, but you got it running.
Our neighbor had one when I was a kid. The other neighbor owned the AMC dealership.
Please keep us posted. Studebakers rock and the 61 Hawks are so cool
I agree! I can tell by your little picture you have excellent taste. That’s a beauty too…
@@DeadDodgeGarage if studi copied, cough, sneeze, chev.. then the guy fits a 5 sp tremec. why not fit a fkn chev 350.. cant be any worse.. can it..
@@DeadDodgeGarage nice body shape.. if i wasnt very busy, & bought one. it would definatly get a 351 clevo. 5 sp zf. & 9"'.. simple cheap reliable.. ausie..
What an incredible find ‼️
Such a rare car 🏆
Great diagnostic skills , Jamie
You probably saved that engine ,
& transmission from ,
an unnecessary tear down
cool toy to be able to play with especially a supercharged one.
Definitely one to take your time on and hopefully do it right that's definitely a nice machine looks like where it lived at it's pretty rust free for the most part.
not super cancerous like so many of the Studes suffered from in Midwest
It’s completely rust free! It has been very well taken care of. It’s a pretty nice car. Definitely a neat toy to play with.
Maybe JBWeld on the freeze plugs? Pole Barn Garage demonstrated a technique on how to put holes in for the seats very similar to the soldering iron; Dalton uses a screwdriver with a MAP gas torch, and pearse from underneath through the pad and carpet. Great job with the quick Studebaker's history with the V8 engine. Great video, and your cadence is perfect with just the correct amount of venting the frustrations and elations.
Studebaker designed the m35 6x6, and the military used the same basic truck, albeit updated for 70 years. Also, they had the first 200 mph production car.
Love your style, humour, and projects. Continue !
Thank you! Lots more coming up.
I'm also a Mopar guy afflicted with 'weird car-itis'. Keep doing it and I'll keep watching it.
Grandfather had a red and white Hawk, father had 2 49 Hudsons. Awesome cars of the past. Happy for you she is done, long time coming. Good one as usual.😊🎉
At least you have a decent shop to do this in. I once did a vega conversion to V8 in my driveway with no cover, no lift, just an engine hoist and floor jack. It was an exercise in problem solving, to be sure. But in the end it was worth all the pain and frustration. I drove it for four years before selling it on. And it was terrifying the whole time. 325 hp in a car weighing 2600 pounds is stupid fast and lightning quick
Oh yeah… that’s very close to what my Cobra replica was as far as power to weight. It was just too much. I’ve done more than my fair share of engine and transmission swaps outside in the rain. Very happy to have what I have now.
She's a killin' machine! The fins were an afterthought on those. They're a separate piece made outta fiberglass. '61 was the last year for them.
Yep!
57-61 fins were steel. Only 56 Golden hawk fins were'glass
I learned to drive in a 49 Stude pu. It had a 3 on the tree with overdrive and terrible 6 pump brakes. It was hideously underpowered even for the day with its flathead tiny 6. But i loved that truck. Lots of great memories. I. 1962 my dad removed the bed and put on a home made plywood camper. We made over a thousand mile trip exploring the entire state of Washington, and parts of Idaho. Always will have a soft spot for Studes and the Hawks are among my favorites. Very enjoyable vid. And heck, isn't Stude a shirt-tail cousin to Mopar...and almost an honorary?
That’s so cool. Well, Stude didn’t become part of AMC. It was part of the plan until the other guys learned just how financially screwed Studebaker Packard were. So they remained on their own until they couldn’t remain any longer - and therefore didn’t end up part of the family. That’s awesome! I want to build a camper kind of like that some day. Probably on a slightly bigger truck though.
I like seeing the rare oddities from other car manufacturers, especially the older models. They all had their own way of doing things back then and wanted to be the top innovator. I also enjoyed the editing and the way you presented the project. And yes, you seem to have a unique presentation voice . . it makes things interesting. Keep up the good work. And hire a young Dutch boy to stick his finger in the dam so you don't have to wade water to work, LOL.
One step forward, two steps back was my theme for the last year.You're making a Noble sacrifice, though, as this is a wicked cool car.
Yeah… that’s been this whole operation. I can’t even explain the amount of relief I feel now that the damn thing drives!
Nice car, job,& video…!!!
I love those Studebakers, especially the Hawk!
Enjoyed it…!!!
Thanks for taking me along on your bumpy (repairs) ride. It is a cool car, and is fun to see it be made roadworthy again. I have a favorite brand & model not really represented on your channel, but I appreciate the enthusiasts behind them all as the diversity is always good. I've also come to appreciate the problem solving that goes on with the other brands as it only expands my automotive knowledge should I be corned by the unexpected issue. Party On!
I definitely make my favorite brand known around here… I love them in spite of being flawed cars. But I definitely like and appreciate many cars made by other manufacturers, and I especially enjoy these funky, long dead makes. And I think anyone that is approaching things in the “right” way is always learning - whatever the source material may be. Thank you!
Yes, a lot of mopar guys also dig studebakers. Especially a manual transmission. Love, love, love this car. Good to see you pick away at all those problems.
Don’t recall ever seeing one of these Hawks before. Love the look. Great video- long time coming!
Apparently the Studebaker engine takes Welch plugs instead of the cup type freeze plugs that newer engines use. Put some sealer around the edge, put it in the hole convex side out, then dimple the center in with a ball peen hammer. This will expand the plug and wedge it in the hole. :>)
Yeah… that’s what the engine builder did… and what I did the first time I replaced all of them… let’s just say, it sucks.
They used the wrong kind of plug. The correct plug is a flat disc with only a slight crown. No cup. As stated above install with the crown out then hit with a hammer to seat it. Mopar flat sixes used those as did a lot of others.
No, you don't understand. A welch is a concave disc, not a cup.@@DeadDodgeGarage
@@davidhawken1301 I do understand. I removed the four peened welch plugs that did not remove themselves from the engine. The plugs I installed were not that. I got it.
Short attention span millenials aside, Jamie, I also watched this one from stem to stern and quite
enjoyed it. Of course, I'm a well-trained viewer, what with being a "charter" member of channels such
as Cold War Motors, where Scott routinely runs over an hour on his weekly show (at our insistence!).
Yes, I'm also a lifetime (60+ years) Mopar guy, but I too share a fascination with other smaller marques
as you do as well.
I'm impressed with your channel and as a fairly new arrival to it, I have much homework to do.
Seems worth the effort though, so congrats on the Studesuccess!
- Ed on the Ridge
Thank you Ed! It’s not necessarily that people don’t watch the longer videos - actually they do pretty well. It’s more like… When I put days and days of work into a video, it never seems to do as well as something I just throw together quickly. This has been a pretty consistent return - but this video is bucking that trend. Probably because it’s a supercharged Studebaker, and it’s awesome. Haha.
Studebakers were one of those cars that always caught your eye! Actually, I guess they still do! Too bad theu couldn't compete against the big 3, but thats just kinda how the car game works!
That’s such a sweet setup….so much cooler to keep the old Stude’ engine with the belt driven hair dryer up front and add an OD 5 speed trans than just LS swapping the thing like everybody else would.
I couldn’t agree more. Don’t cross the streams!
Love those old studeys. Always wanted one. Best part of this video was every part of this video. Cause you got a wonderful attitude bro. Dude with a ‘tide in a Stude!
Thank you!!
I like the Stud. I'm not much for some of their engineering, but I like the car itself. If it were mine, I am pretty sure I'd be building the 40K mile 440 I have bagged up in my shot for it.. Never had any issues with core plugs in a 440!!! No need for that wind-whirler. I wonder how big a set of meets would fit between those rear quarters??? I really do like this car, Jamie...
That is the first time I’ve really looked at one of those for long. Watched the whole video and now I kinda want one. It is a cool car
They’re really cool! My friend actually has a red one. Automatic, no supercharger. It looks good in red…
Love Studes. And they can be had in these parts. Dangerous combo.
Love it! I have a weird Studebaker itch that I'm sure one day, I"ll scratch. This was a fun watch. Thanks!
I have enjoyed this project. I love old Studebakers. You have overcome dozens of frustrating problems and you didn't give up. You have earned my respect. With me being a retired mechanic who used to own a 68 GTX, a 69 GTX and a 69 Charger I am tried and true mopar nut. But starting a family I had to give up my toys to survive and make ends meet. I always told myself when I retire I will buy another 69 charger and relive my glory days. But with 68-70 chargers going for the price of a small house I have abandoned that dream. These days finds me working on a Smart car for a play toy. Such is life and you take your enjoyment where you can find it and afford it. You have a lot of great vehicles so enjoy them to the fullest and don't get rid of them. Watching your labor of love going down your driveway on someone's else's trailer is a nightmare that you will never get over. You have saved a very rare car indeed and it sounds awesome !
Just watched from start to finish, good laughs and good job. get ready to sell her, give me a holler.
It’s not my car. I am realizing from the comments I’ve gotten that I didn’t make obvious enough references to that fact. I did in the first video on the car so I was figuring been there, said that - but that was a long time ago… thanks!
Wow, she is a beauty and you have come so far don’t despair she is almost there. Just think how cool it will be to to take her to the car shows and tell these youngsters about one of the best looking cars of the sixties.
Well the car’s owner gets to do all that - but I’ll be happy to see it out of my shop and back out there.
Actually, I'm a Chevy guy, but enough bragging , I just found your channel and find it quite enjoyable, I love old iron no matter what it is even a Studebaker
Giday dude, What a fantastic video. Many Thanks for th time you have committed to making such a huge project come back to life.. You must have a very supportive wife & family. Its allso great to see th country side you live in, while test driving your projects..👍
Your neighbors must all so be very tolerant ppl.😲
Thanks again for the great content, pls keep up th great work👏👏
Many Cheers from Australia..🍺
Funny enough, it’s often me that has to be tolerant of the neighbors… I’ve got some junk collected up, but at least it’s cool junk! And they know who to ask when they need car help. So it is working out well. As far as Mrs. Jamie… one could not possibly hope for a partner who not signs off on all the crazy and downright stupid financial decisions I’ve made in the pursuit of all of this. I am very lucky to be able to do what I’m doing. Thanks for watching! Lots more to come.
I really appreciate your persistence. What a beautiful and fun looking car.
Hey man, I applaud your dedication, I was "in the trenches" for many years. Studebakers are a bit of a challenge. That looks really solid, and Definately worth the Effort.
I completely agree. I actually drove the car for real yesterday! I am starting to think this was all worth it. I can’t wait to get it back to its owner. Thank you!
Very different car ....but super charged is different too....good content...thanks.
Congratulations, Jamie! Perseverance pays off. Great to see the Stude (all but) finished.
I stumbled upon your channel a couple days ago and I’m hooked. I own a 66 442 (4 speed just the way you like) for the last 31 years. I also own a 2016 scat pack 392 Challenger so I have love for Mopar Also. I find you very talented and entertaining at the same time. I’ve spent the last 2 days watching your videos and can’t stop. Keep up the great work and keep them coming.
That’s awesome! Thank you very much! Lots more to come.
You are working on a rare car. Good work. Keep it up. I subscribed to your channel.
Thank you! Yes it’s something very special. Especially at this point - there aren’t many with five speed swaps…
Beautiful car! Well worth the effort to get it right.
Now you're talking. People ask me what's my favorite car, and this one is the one that almost clicked all the boxes. The '61 engine (and factory 4 speed transmission) and TT rear end, but in the '57 Golden Hawk. I like the body design of the Golden Hawk over the GT Hawks. Yep, '57 with '61 running gear..... a match made in heaven for me..... lololol
Good stuff man, keep up the good work.
I prefer the Golden Hawk too. The hard top is much prettier in my eye. I like that earlier fin design as well. Beyond that of course, they’re extremely similar cars! Thanks!
It seems like every video of yours reminds me of something that I've seen or done myself. In this case, my dad reinstalled old freeze plugs on a 318 many years ago, and this didn't work out well. We were heading down the highway and all of a sudden one of the plugs let go and that made our trip unhappy (middle of the winter, pre-cell phone days...). Long story short, the lesson was learned: ALWAYS install NEW freeze plugs.
Ugh… yep. Don’t do that. Haha.
Love the Studebaker. My Dad pined for a Hawk for many years before finally giving up that dream. Now I see why. Great looking car. Hope you de-gremlin it easily. I know from experience that the rubber freeze plugs need to be changed about every year or two. They degrade and pop out.
Studebaker is a natural fit for MoPar fiends. Good job!
Love Studebaker Hawks. What a good looking car.
I named mine the "Stupid Baker" but for different reasons.
Once sorted. A joy to drive but not stop.
Thanks
Wow, just WOW! What a challenge you have on this. I noticed some of the comments did not acknowledge the impossibility of getting parts or technical support, and were critical of the some of the improvisation that went on. I have built and worked on many machines, cars, trucks, and motorcycles that were so far out of production and popularity that EVERYTHING had to be re-engineered or substituted to make them work again. To those who have never worked on a 1921 John Deere tractor or a 1938 Duesenberg, go easy on a true craftsman like Jamie who is performing miracles on this project, and note that on the Mopar products, that have tons of OEM and after-market support, he does not have to fabricate every part he uses.
Buick and Studebaker built cars in downtown Beaumont. The buildings are still there. Great history.
Great video. I could daily that she got a 3rd pedal my favorite. Saving the Manuals one build at a time thank you Sir.
Damn right! Haha. Thanks!
With all those problems you worked through, I was just as happy as you were watching it leave the shop after all that time. :)
That Hawk has lived in a garage cause I just don't see any rust. Excellent car and video!
Hey, I recently found your channel, and I enjoy your videos, cars, sense of humor, and the mechanical (and other) issues you are dealing with. Living in South Louisiana most of my life, I have a curiosity about people who live in an area where so many people seem to have a bizarre political outlook. Anyway, that particular Stude was a GREAT car to feature. I like Mopars best, but Studebakers like the one in this video have amazing styling and their way of approaching performance matches the "futuristic" style of the model.
I think people everywhere have a bizarre political outlook… I think the right answer on almost all issues is somewhere in the middle. And I also think we can (and should) ignore all of that in our daily lives and focus on our own operations. That’s what I’m here doing. I completely agree on the Stude - it’s awesome! Thank you for watching. I appreciate it.
Totally agree. I couldn’t have said it better. Thx u
The plunger pin on the hood needs to be adjusted down to go deeper into the latch assembly. Then there needs to be a hole drilled in it to accommodate a pin. Hawk hoods are famous for flying up and wrapping itself onto the top. Never had that kind a problem with core plugs at all.I drive a 61 Studebaker V8 pick up daily and is newest vehicle I own. My car I drive is 1950 Hudson straight 8. Studebakers are dependable and easy to work on and get parts for. If you keep it and be patienct with it, It will run forever with just a little bit of attention.
I am but the humble mechanic piecing this one back together - and cleaning up multiple messes left for me by the builder of the engine. Good to know on the hood - it clearly doesn’t latch well.
Enjoyed the video. As a kid in the mid ‘60’s, a man in my neighborhood restored c.1930 Packards (he had a finished roadster he showed, and he was working on a dual cowl phaeton) His daily driver was a then new Hawk - I thought it was pretty cool. Nice guy - he took the time to talk about his cars to us kids. Those Packards seemed stately and ancient them, and a thirty five year old car today is what, an ‘88 Diplomat?
Yep… I’ve seen a Geo Metro with a collector plate… when I got into A bodies they were old cars not many people were still using. I just thought they were cool looking and unique - and the price was always right. Now they are 50 years old… just crazy to think about. Because at the same time, they don’t look ancient like those Packards did then. Of course those are almost 100 now…
Such a sweet car, wish you could still see them on the road. Never seen this body type outside of TH-cam.
My friend Josh actually has a red one. Automatic, no supercharger - but same body. That’s the only other one I’ve ever seen…
What a gem! Great work and learnin's right thar matey! I've always liked the designs of the Hawks and Commanders, rolling art, love that the speedo on that goes to 160mph, kind of optimistic but cool never the less. There's a Commander in my neighbourhood that is on a Vette frame with a sb 350 (LS?), a beauty beast of a rescue. Those expanding rubber frost plugs are the cat's meaow when yer stuck for a solution, I had a '63 Rambler Ambassador with a straight 6 that I had to re-plug and did them all with those with the honest intent of doing it right when I had time and money, well that never happened but managed to squeeze nearly 20k out of it without issues before it departed to another home, just don't over-heat :P Great vid and am fully entertained, big cheers from new fans in the great PNW Canada!
In 1961 you were pretty much kicking ass on the street with that car
Dodge or not thats a cool car great video 👍✌️
Thanks man! Don’t forget your corn dog.
@@DeadDodgeGarage lol i did not long vid was a 2 dawg n a rc cola
I am an old Studebaker guy. The freeze plugs should be the flat type, not the cup type. The flat ones are curved and will flatten out will expand and tighten in the hole. Thus the stepped shoulder inside.
Yep… yep… yep
Wow, great to see progress on the Hawk!!
Glad to see others struggle with unusual cars. Honestly, you proved your just as stubborn as the car, in not giving up. Awesome job dude. 😆😅🤣
I sure am 🤣 thank you!
Great Video! Haha. Patience is a virtue and necessary for us Mopar fans. If you want easy, get a small block chevy😀. These cars aren’t Mopar adjustable like you are used to, but I see you know the rule “If it doesn’t fit, make it fit”👍
Really enjoyed this video, great attitude, liked and subscribed. (I particularly like underdog manufacturers, which is why I drive a Triumph from 1962, it too has fins).
Nice! Thank you!
Love your dead pan humor and outlook when you get frustrated. I laughed out loud when you said you didn’t want to see that car ever again. I agree with you just watching the video. Cool looking car, but definitely a Frankenbaker!! 😂😂
I like it more now that it actually works 😅 but it was definitely touch and go there for a while… still very excited for it to go home. Haha. Thanks!
In 1988 worked as tech on cars,trucks & off road racers. A customer had 2 57 Studebaker Gold Hawk with Packston Super Charger and Red Firehawk both in Exc----Exc+ cond❤❤❤
One of my favourite cars, needless to say Studebaker put out the very first line of pony cars long before GM or anyone else, Studebaker Lark Daytona, Supercharged 289 that dusted and still does all comers big block or small.
I had read a lot about the shortcomings of the Stude design due to the small sizing of the head and other components. So I was definitely not expecting it to do what this thing does… it’s awesome!
Most excellent!! Been anxiously awaiting this one!!
You and me both… haha.
We Canadians LOVE rotten old frost plugs. That's a sexy little beast, BTW.
I enjoyed the series back in the day. My first car was a 1963 Studebaker Lark with the 289 and a 4-speed and the Paxton supercharger. What a fun car that was I had or approximately 10 years and sold it which the hell I had it back
MY DAD HAD A GOLDEN HAWK WHEN I WAS A KID I LOVED IT
9:29 No problem. Freezer plugs are easily fixed with a branch from a birch. 👍That's what I did on an old VOLVO 444 PV from 1956. It had been outside for a winter without antifreeze and when I was going out to drive and the plug flew and all the water with it. I fixed that with a birch branch and a knife.🌳🗡 I cut the branch out to taper and then hammered it 🔨in with water 💧and started.🔑 This went on for about 5 minutes and the wood swelled and sealed the leak and I was able to run the PV again.🚙👌 I should add that this was 1976 and I was 16 years old, had 5 old cars and drove on a track made in a large hilly field. Morris Minor 1959, Ford Cortina 1964, DKW 1000S 1962, SAAB 96 2-stroke 1963, VOLVO 444 PV 1956. The change between cars is satisfactory. 🤤By the way, the neighbor had a Studebaker Hawk until about 1973 and then sold it. Ever since I saw it, I thought this was the coolest car I've ever seen and still do,😮 even though I've driven SAABs since 1977 and still do. 😎👍
Problem solving! Haha. That’s awesome. We were driving around a track in a field today… it’s about the most fun one can have.
what a great car .not a lot of rust. i think she's a keeper.
I don’t think there’s any rust anywhere! The owner Dave is definitely keeping this one for the long haul.
Check out the concave core plugs a Ford 8n tractor uses. I think those type of plug may be right up the Stude's alley. Cheers!
Yep, that’s the unit. Same idea as what the engine builder used initially. I’m leaving the rubber… it works.
YOU ARE NOT A QUITTER DAMN GOOD JOB MAN . I AM A SUCKER FOR 66 OLDS 98'S WITH THE 425 BIG BLOCK THE OLD 425 IS PHENOMENAL ENGINE LOOK IT UP .. BOUGHT IT FOR 600 BUCKS DID THE WORK RAN 2 1/4 PIPES TO REAR NO MUFFLERS RAN THE SNOT OUT OF IT ...
It was very interesting thanks for sharing.
It makes me feel so much better knowing that you feel the same way about Studebaker as the old man and I do. What a nightmare 🤣 I've always wanted one of these cars, but after working on that 63 pickup, and watching you have the same experience, I really don't want one anymore 🤣
Yeah… I don’t need to own one at all. It’s cool! But I’ll keep my normal nightmares, thank you very much 😅
Nice car! I have a 59 Silverhawk with a supercharged 259 and a 4 speed. Its the earlier golden hawk super charger setup, wish I had a Paxton like you as it would be nice to run a four barrel. Regardless the car still hauls! lol
This channel should have at least 500k subs. Share folks!
Thank you Mike! We’re getting there… slowly…
Neighbor kid had a new black 65 Hawk with red interior and 4 speed, purchased from the local garage/repair shop/gas station. What a beautiful car, until he rolled it. Love these old Studmaker Hawks. LOL
Correction 1963 Hawk
Ok that makes more sense. Haha. Cool! Mostly.
You really stick with a problem. The humor shown when dealing with setbacks is very entertaining - sometimes I feel guilty laughing so hard over your misfortune. Cool car, though.
This is one of the most enjoyable vids in a while. Thank you, Jamie!👍
I think I read that those engines were made with over built internals in anticipation of the future super chargers. That the rocker assemblies were a direct swap to Cadillac engines of the time and sought by drag racers using Cadillac engines because Studebaker's were better. Unique and rare cars.
I read that they were built with the idea of high-compression/high octane to make power, but it ended up being cubic inches instead. There's a guy that has a big boost turbo on his '63 or '64 Stude.
I am *not* a Studebaker expert by any stretch of the imagination, but I did a lot of reading on the Studebaker V8 back when I got into this project - and that is not the case as I understand it. Their goal from the beginning with the V8 was for it to be cheap and economical like their six cylinder, but really to be a more modern engine than what they had to try and keep with the times. While they were copying (intentionally, unashamedly copying - Studebaker engineers visited GM engine production facilities and were allowed to copy their notes) the new Cadillac V8 design, they did not copy the fine details… despite the block being the same physical size, they scaled the internals of their engine much, much smaller, and did not use a modern “slipper” piston design, or even more modern casting techniques. The components are tough. These engines are built like a brick shit house. They’re heavy… but they are hamstrung by a tiny cylinder head, and limited to a small cubic inch size thanks to their design. The supercharger was utilized as a means to add horsepower when they could not afford to do so in any other way. The Studebaker engine lent itself to boost handily, but it was not designed for that intentionally.
As far as I remember there are two sorts of frost plugs. Cup type and Lens type. The holes for cup types have no seat and the plug is made slightly bigger than the hole (interference fit). You just bang them in with the cup “rim” facing towards you till the rim is flash with the edge of the block. Blocks for lens type plugs have a recessed seat. You put the plug in with the dome outwards, bang it up n till it seats (using a socket or tube nearly the same size as the plug) and after it seats you get a smaller punch and punch in the dome a bit to expand the plug so it stays in. So the lens type won’t stay in without that final step. Maybe that was your problem? Anyway this is all too late and glad to see you fixed it anyway. The Hawk sounds fantastic by the way!
Yes. That’s what the engine builder did, and that’s what blew all that coolant on my floor (the first two times.) All of this is discussed in a follow up video. Thanks!
Love the sound of that engine. Very cool car.
Awwww is that your little one or a niece?
Cuteness overload, adorable little critters. Glad you're teaching them about carz.
That’s my daughter. Haha. She’s not a car girl, but she does occasionally come out to the shop and hang for a bit. If she wants to get her hands dirty some day I’ll be here. And if she doesn’t, then unlike me, she might actually have a manageable financial future 😅
@@DeadDodgeGarage You're being a good dad.
Cool car...more Studebakers please!
I’ll see what I can do!
I had a 413 Mopar truck engine that used those disc type freeze plugs. I put then upside down. They promptly fell out while the engine was warming up. One of the old engine guys come over and showed me how to install them. He also showed me that use hi-tac by permatex don't use silicone.
It’s nice to watch your channel and not have every aspect of blow by blow detailed information on every your doing I suppose some people like to watch what 300 items came out of a trunk and how many mice nests are in the car lol😂
I used to think that leaving as much detail out as I do might be a problem - but no one needs to watch every little bit of carpet I trim, or ever drop of antifreeze I pour in an engine that is destined to leak back out onto the ground. Haha. I don’t have the attention span for that. What I’m really doing in my videos is telling a story, and giving some helpful little tips along the way. Thanks!
Awesome Work !
She’s very Cool and somehow I feel these have a Dodge Vibe kind of like AMC.
I laid my air chuck and pressure gauge down ,in a place i would remember 3 months ago , its still there , wherever that is.
That is a cool ride.
Yeah… I’ve performed that maneuver at least a few times…
Its nice to see you finally fit that Cummins in the Studebaker.
😅 problem would be solved, just saying
Regarding Studebaker ... of the many B-17 Superfortresses I've seen (and taken rides in ... including helping the crews prop-over the 1,820 C.I.D. 9-cylinder engines!), I'd say that 80% of the R-1820 engines on the surviving B-17s were built under license by Studebaker, not by Curtiss-Wright which designed/developed them. I guess Studebaker's management didn't believe in war profiteering if they exited WW2 without sufficient capital to survive the 50s and 60s. That Hawk is AWESOME and the design is GORGEOUS, right up there with the '68 Charger. Those beauties make the ugly SHIT on the roads today look even more hideous.
@Dead Dodge Garage - I first saw one of these on Cold War Motors TH-cam channel and fell in love with the lines - the long hood, the seemingly comparatively small passenger compartment and those angel wings that to me gave it the look of a dragon hunching down and getting ready to fly. From the rear, you can (almost) see hints of 57-59 Plymouth and from the side it looks a little like the Volvo P1800S' big brother - even from a three-quarter profile one can see certain similarities with that big central grille, long hood and raked roof with its big curved rear glass. The Study has the win on fins though, for sure!
Mate - I watched that from start to finish because I really love the look of the Studebaker Hawk and she appears to be a good solid example....and I was intrigued to see how she ran and drove. I totally relate to your inner pain when it comes to the way the beast was fighting you. I own a Triumph Stag - and that should be enough to have you suddenly nodding your head in agreement. I gave it a name - Stacey. Stacey the Stag. I don't think she likes it much because if I use it too often in one day, she breaks something. If I leave her sitting longer than a week, things don't want to work until I coax them. Oh, she'll start up ok, but other things like electrical gremlins creep in and the wipers won't go or the high beam stops working until I turn the right hand indicator on...but then again, that could just be the Lucas (the Prince of Darkness) wiring loom. However, in late 2018 and early 2019, I had a long bout of issues that cropped up. First it was the inlet manifold gasket, then the carburettor, then the exhaust system gave up, the sway bar bushes detonated (they were red polyurethane) and tore the sway bar out of its brackets, then the driver's seat collapsed, the fabric hood frame broke a stay, the alternator stopped alternating, went nuclear and cranked all the voltage it could through everything and boiled the battery, blew nearly every bulb and fried the coil. Then in April 2019, I was driving her along a coast road that had seen some bad weather, but did not see where the tarseal suddenly ended and dropped 18 inches into a crater that spanned half the width of the road until I was right on the damn thing. In she went, smashed the clutch slave cylinder, jammed the clutch fork so that the clutch was half engaged (so I couldn't drive it without a clutch because it was slipping), mashed the new mufflers against the floorpan and left me stranded in the middle of nowhere. Got her back at the end of May and in the first drive the day after I got her home, the brake master cylinder shat itself. One corner I had brakes, the next one they went to the floor. Drove it home slowly, parked it in the garage and that's where it stayed for two years. I was done with the damn thing!
In late 2021, I resurrected the brakes, replaced the drag strut bushes and got her back on the road...and in March 2022, the diff grenaded on me in rather spectacular fashion, some 90 miles from home and way out the back of beyond in the countryside. None of the above tells of the other parts like door and window seals, headlights, tail lights, new distributor and electronic ignition and a pile of trim pieces, clips and detailing that have gone into the beast during my ownership. Talk about being thankful for the money and time I poured into her? Nah - she's a bloody attention-seeking old battle-axe that just likes to lull me into a false sense of security before dropping another bomb in my wallet. The car has cost me more in repairs and parts since owning it than what I paid for it, yet it looks little different. The thing is though, I take one look at her sleek lines and turn the key to hear that V8 rumble into life and all is forgiven.
I cannot let her go despite all she's cost me - I enjoy driving her too much for that....and I love the looks she gets when she's out and about. People love to see an old V8-powered vehicle doing its thing and the rarer it is, the more they like it. Stags and Studys aren't commonplace nowadays and people - even young kids - love seeing something that looks so wildly different from the hum-drum, boring, slab-sided, mundane, largely grey or silver, cookie-cutter, mass produced everyday vehicles that fill today's roads. Gotta keep them going and out where they can be seen and appreciated....and maybe one day one of those kids will design the vehicles of tomorrow with a bit of imagination and passion instead of a ruler and a budget. All the best!
Wow... just reading that made my spine hurt, and left me searching my memories trying to find if any car has ever fought me that hard. No... not by quite a stretch. I've had some rough times with cars, but wow. I laughed at the Lucas electrics bit, not so much for most of the rest of that.
Anyway, I agree with your thoughts on the Stude. It's a supremely interesting car. Handsome from some angles, slightly awkwardly proportioned from others, but overall just neat. Quite unlike anything else one is likely to see on the road, and that's even comparing to the classics I tend to drive around.
One more observation, it's interesting how many times Cold War Motors and I are mentioned together! There must be something to that.
@@DeadDodgeGarage - On the CWM comparison, it could very well be because the bloke who does the filming (Scott) has a yard full of mainly 50s Chrysler / Dodge / Plymouth etc vehicles, with a few 60s versions and the odd old Chev or Buick or two. He has quite a few mates and at least one of them is as mad about Mopar stuff as Scott is. He's also into the weird and smaller manufacturers that nobody wants to collect - the likes of Kaiser, Frazer, Hudson etc plus a couple of European makes - Peugeot, Citroen - again because they are cars that were once plentiful around where he is in Alberta, but have basically disappeared completely. Scott has restored several over the years and his "ok, that's not perfect but it will do" has me going "the bloody thing's absolutely perfect mate! In fact it was perfect half an hour ago before you got out the magnifying glass...". But underneath everything, the bloke is a true Mopar man and the 1961 Fury he rebuilt over 6 years is a sight to behold, let alone the '60 and '67 Furies he also has, or the '37 Chev that has travelled only 34k miles (that had one cylinder that was so badly rust pitted that they chose to resleeve it to keep the original engine in the car). His attention to detail borders on the extreme, but the results speak volumes.
As to Stacey, I've lost count of the number of times I have sworn she is going up for sale, but to date I have been unable to do it. Part of me wants some return out of all the money I've spent, but that's a double-edged sword as the more I drive her, the more there's a chance something else will go wrong! When the brake master went, I could not even look at the car for over four months and when the diff destroyed itself and it rocked forward and pulled the handbrake cable tight - locking the rear wheels at 30mph and sliding the car off the road - while dumping hot diff oil onto the exhaust so that it caught fire, part of me didn't want to go get the fire extinguisher and instead just stand there and watch her burn. However, I really didn't want to see such a beautiful car die. I will say that a 1kg (2.5lb) fire extinguisher doesn't go very far, so I now have a 2kg one installed in all three of my classics. Call it cheap insurance.
I'll keep my eye out in any future vids for a sighting of the Stude - that's for sure. Such an unusual, unique, cool, different and lovely thing to behold. Glad she's running again, mate. Yet to find others in the series of her progress since....if there are any!...but I'll keep looking.
All the best
My dad had one of those. A fire engine red one. It was a legend in the family stories.
Cool Studebaker. I don't miss living in Wa State. Too much rain.