It's not alleged, he definitely did die that way. The coroner reported that he hadn't had a bowel movement in 4 MONTHS. Makes my stomach hurt just thinking about it, poor bastard.
Valentine has a indian* curse on it St Denis has a vampire running loose Tumbleweed is in decline Armadillo has a pandemic Blackwater is reeling from a massacre Van Horn is a crime colony Annesburg is drowning in waste and pollution Rhodes has a cloud of regret hanging over it Colter is long abandoned Wapiti is a ghost town Strawberry is the only half decent town left
@@muradov_sw I guess emerald ranch is also fine, but there is also the owner's daughter who never leaves the house, and whom Seamus sometimes sees through the window. Kinda creepy.
I never noticed Tommy in the bar during the mission drunkenly looking for Lenny. Kind of sad that he ended up with a brain injury, shows what work went into this game with the little details like that
The sheriff in Valentine has more secrets than the affair with Moira. You can see hem taking bribes from the o’Driscolls hiding in the back of the Doctors office.
@strangeman There is an interaction with the Sheriff after he kills Moira... At around 4.15am every day he walks up to the balcony to smoke. If you time it right, you can go up there after he's killed her and Arthur will say "Returning to the scene of the crime?". I activated it once but unfortunately I ran into him before he could respond. Has anyone else activated this? I'd love to know the rest of the conversation!
I'm pleased to see I'm not the only one who occasionally accidently punches some innocent bystander during a first fight. Arthur once punched a lady while fighting with Jon in the saloon. All I saw was her feet go flying. Then on another occasion John was fighting some random NPC in the street outside Smithfield saloon and punched his horse. The Horse lashed out and kicked the NPC stone dead.
Just north of MacLean’s house (between the ranch and the river) can be found the skeletons of two groups of convicts in shackles. For most of them their legs appeared to have been cut off just above the ankles, and one of them is propped up in a seated position against a tree, his head severed from his body. Any ideas as to the story behind this strange scene?
There's actually more than 2 encounters with Grizzled Jon, you can have about 3 or 4 with different dialogue every time. Even if you don't fight him or take his hat he disappears after a certain amount of encounters and never comes back.
I've always wondered if Jon was one of those settlers who massacred the natives in order to found Valentine... From what he said, it seems that way. He's still one of the toughest npcs tho. Oh and a remake of the Valentine curse video would be awesome.
After so many playthroughs of this game that I've lost count and yet half of this stuff I did not genuinely know about. To this day I am consistently STILL finding things that I've missed. The very many different interactions mostly. Thumbs up from a long time subscriber. I come to your channel for the gospel of RDR2 according to you to catch up on everything that I'm missing and then head in-game to play them out. Thank you.. sincerely..
hey strange man. have you ever noticed that the whole map used to be underwater? i realized it when i climbed the sacred mountain rains falls takes you up near the wapiti rez. the water from emerald ranch is just the water that was left over during the flood. and the rocks in the distance is what used to be above sea level.
17:49 YES I would love a revisited one! Out of all the RDR2 mysteries I think the Valentine curse one is up there as the one of the most "mysterious" and intriguing ones.
There is a VERY rare mission that you can get in Valentine as early as chapter 2 that I have only gotten once (in 7 playthroughs). At night across from the Inn (by the new building they're working on), a man will beckon you over and explain that he is going to cheat his business partner who is staying at the Inn. You cam go alone with him, decline or even keep the money for yourself. It also gives us a unique character behind the desk at the Inn, instead of the usual fella there.
The prostitute side mission with the pigs is a Deadwood reference. Episode one, Trixie, a prostitute at the Gem, shoots a guy for beatin on her. Most bodies (especially bodies at the hotel and the Gem) are fed to Mr Wu's pigs.
There is another secret you can find in Valentine, Francis Sinclair is not the only one with the Epsilon program, if you go to the Graveyard at Valentine you can find a Eugene Dunn. On his gravestone you can find an Epsilon symbol, the wings with hourglass, another odd coincidence is Eugene had two twin sisters that died the same year Eugene died. An odd connection but i think the Epsilon program in RDR2 would be a good video for you to revisit.
Hey StrangeMan, I found a cool detail when I finished the whole game story. There was a thunderstorm, and I found out that animals and cattle get spooked of sudden thunder, you could add this to the next video in the details series :D
There is another event when we briefly see Thomas Downes before he infects Arthur: When Arthur is thrown out of the window fighting against Tommy and then winning the fight, you can see Thomas Downes being the first one trying to intervene. Arthur immediately leaves the area and in the background we can briefly see that Mr. Downes tries to help Tommy, who is still lying in the mud.
I just recently had to sell my Xbox series S because I have a kid on the way and we just really Need the money. I’m gonna miss playing red dead but as soon as I have the money I’m immediately buying a ps5 or series X to get the most out of gaming. But god damn I’m gonna miss riding my ol miss and just enjoying the scenery in red dead. 😞😢
Poor poor Tommy. I didn’t realize Til years later when I played again and fojnd him cleaning a saddle after the fight. Total vegetable. You also hear seeming in the bar tell you he ain’t the same anymore
I never knew about the Great Storm plaque on the church? Makes me wonder if the storm came about as a result of the curse that was placed upon Valentine.
You make some of my favorite RDR2 content on TH-cam man, I’ve found so many amazing things to do in RDR2 because of your videos my guy! Thank you for continuing to produce quality content and keeping RDR2 relevant! 8:11 they’re clearly indulging in the wacky tobacky 😂😂 Skål 🍻
What about the drunken fella that asks you the way to his house . You can choose to mislead him into the stables and a horse will knock him out with a kick lmao
Your reactions during gameplay are priceless! They add so much entertainment value to the video. I find myself laughing out loud at your genuine responses, and it’s refreshing to see someone so passionate about gaming. Your authenticity makes your content relatable and enjoyable, and it’s clear that you love what you do. Keep sharing those moments; they truly resonate with your audience!
Not too sure if this helps with the curse but you can hear an eagle during the day and an owl at night at the church in Val. Also, if you go up behind the church, up on the rise above all the unmarked graves, the back door of the church seems to morph and you can see something inside. You need to find a sweet-spot and it will light-up inside. Might just be a graphical error.
John is my favorite sparring partner. All I have to do is put on the raccoon hat, and he comes at me like a bull. As long as he lands the first hit, it's not assault.
I like that the game doesn't even give you a prompt to read the Chelonian 'bible' when it's offered to you. Arthur just turns it down out of principle alone.
Grizzled Jon is wearing something similar to the Legendary Panther cloak so I kind of respect him if he actually took some like Giagulo down. Also love having a nice scrap with him! He’s the best fist fighter in Valentine outside of poor Tommy.
If you steal grizzled John’s hat and come back to Valentine after some time you can rent a room in the Hotel and put the hat on and you will see a red dot on the map moving toward you with speed and in a few minutes he will burst through the door and start to fight you…
sometimes i go to a place called woodhaven lakes and near there is a place that looks similar to valentine and theres even a church at the same exact area
Just found your TH-cam channel. Good work! I just started another play through and this game is just incredible. One of best games ever made. I’m gonna watch some of your other videos. Any recommendations from anyone is welcome. God speed cowboys 👍🤠
11:00 I have a clip in PS4 of a intense storm in the game. How can I give it to you? Is the only tine I have seen a intense storm in the game, I think it was a bug
Fun fact I found out last night. The random encounter bear valentine where the odriscolls are trying to break their friend out of the wagon. Well if you hogtied him and take him to the jail rather than killing him you get money for it 😂😂 Rockstar really went all out
More and more I see videos like this. I think this was the greatest game ever produced. I have way more love for RDR 2 then any GTA series. Not to say they wasn't good. But the amount of details, story telling, and other side tell's is extraordinary. Question is will the New GTA surpass RDR2 on all aspects??? 🤔
Hell Yeah ! Thanks for the vidéo and keeping it up! yes i would like the revisited video of the valentine mistery. Thanks alot Strange Man you rocks alot !!
The constipated guy being called Mr. Presley is probably a reference to Elvis Presley - who allegedly died while on the toilet.
💩
Now that’s something entertaining
Supposedly, one of the headlines in a paper the day after Presley died was "King Dies on Throne."
It's funny, because bananas often help with "regularity"... but those fried peanut butter and banana sandwiches?
They turn to glue in the belly!
It's not alleged, he definitely did die that way. The coroner reported that he hadn't had a bowel movement in 4 MONTHS. Makes my stomach hurt just thinking about it, poor bastard.
Valentine has a indian* curse on it
St Denis has a vampire running loose
Tumbleweed is in decline
Armadillo has a pandemic
Blackwater is reeling from a massacre
Van Horn is a crime colony
Annesburg is drowning in waste and pollution
Rhodes has a cloud of regret hanging over it
Colter is long abandoned
Wapiti is a ghost town
Strawberry is the only half decent town left
Everywhere they go is a massacre 😂
What about Emrland ranch
@@muradov_sw I guess emerald ranch is also fine, but there is also the owner's daughter who never leaves the house, and whom Seamus sometimes sees through the window. Kinda creepy.
The bayou has the nightfolk
strawberry has skinners nearby
Valentine is my Favorite place in RDR2, has the most western feeling for me.
Yeah! When I'm bored I'm always going to Valentine saloon at night to play poker or just chill out there, very atmospheric place!
I like Tumbleweed more for its Western feeling but Valentine is almost on the same high Aproval
@@Todesmorgen I should spend more time in New Austin..
Absolutely agree
It should have been bigger in my opinion
Not just Valentine even Rhodes feels kinda small too
I never noticed Tommy in the bar during the mission drunkenly looking for Lenny. Kind of sad that he ended up with a brain injury, shows what work went into this game with the little details like that
No matter how "evil" my current playthrough is... I always hug Mickey.
I filet him
😂😂@@Brian-qh6zt
I get it on with him.
Mickey deserves it
The sheriff in Valentine has more secrets than the affair with Moira. You can see hem taking bribes from the o’Driscolls hiding in the back of the Doctors office.
Twice? I swear I see Grizzled Jon ranting in there every time I walk in
Think it depends on whether you kick his ass or not
Ikr 🤣
Best dialogue in the game. Classic stuff. Lots of wisdom.
A great horned owl will perch on top of the Valentine stables late on full moon nights.
Wow, it was ON SIGHT with Grizzled Jon when he saw you wearing his hat lol
@strangeman There is an interaction with the Sheriff after he kills Moira... At around 4.15am every day he walks up to the balcony to smoke. If you time it right, you can go up there after he's killed her and Arthur will say "Returning to the scene of the crime?". I activated it once but unfortunately I ran into him before he could respond. Has anyone else activated this? I'd love to know the rest of the conversation!
is it a greet or an antagonize?
@@jacksonlikesbagels6237 Neither. Just ran up there and the convo started!
I'm pleased to see I'm not the only one who occasionally accidently punches some innocent bystander during a first fight. Arthur once punched a lady while fighting with Jon in the saloon. All I saw was her feet go flying. Then on another occasion John was fighting some random NPC in the street outside Smithfield saloon and punched his horse. The Horse lashed out and kicked the NPC stone dead.
lmfao im weak💀
Just north of MacLean’s house (between the ranch and the river) can be found the skeletons of two groups of convicts in shackles. For most of them their legs appeared to have been cut off just above the ankles, and one of them is propped up in a seated position against a tree, his head severed from his body. Any ideas as to the story behind this strange scene?
There's actually more than 2 encounters with Grizzled Jon, you can have about 3 or 4 with different dialogue every time. Even if you don't fight him or take his hat he disappears after a certain amount of encounters and never comes back.
He went to hunt them bigfoots
I saw him two or three times after I beat him, but the game wouldn't let me interact with him at all. Would love to shut him up again.
@@Will-Maxwhy? Guy is a walking endless supply of wisdom. Great dialogue. Probably the best character in the game. It’s too bad he doesn’t have more.
RDR3 protagonist should be him.
@@Carl_McMelvin😂
I've always wondered if Jon was one of those settlers who massacred the natives in order to found Valentine... From what he said, it seems that way. He's still one of the toughest npcs tho. Oh and a remake of the Valentine curse video would be awesome.
After so many playthroughs of this game that I've lost count and yet half of this stuff I did not genuinely know about. To this day I am consistently STILL finding things that I've missed. The very many different interactions mostly. Thumbs up from a long time subscriber. I come to your channel for the gospel of RDR2 according to you to catch up on everything that I'm missing and then head in-game to play them out. Thank you.. sincerely..
Anyone else notice 17:02 theres the shadow of an eagle flying over the camp and the camera kinda pans to it while they're talking about eagles
hey strange man. have you ever noticed that the whole map used to be underwater? i realized it when i climbed the sacred mountain rains falls takes you up near the wapiti rez. the water from emerald ranch is just the water that was left over during the flood. and the rocks in the distance is what used to be above sea level.
and there's the fish-like dinosaur bones.
@@Will-Max the whale skeleton near tumbleweed ?
@@CQF32 I'm not there yet, I found these west of Lake Owanjilla. Almost a straight line from the "O" just a little bit south of that line.
@@Will-Max I was hiding from bounty hunters and found them by accident lol
17:49 YES I would love a revisited one! Out of all the RDR2 mysteries I think the Valentine curse one is up there as the one of the most "mysterious" and intriguing ones.
I have played this game since it came out and I’ve never seen the spanking peeping Tom. Crazy.
There is a VERY rare mission that you can get in Valentine as early as chapter 2 that I have only gotten once (in 7 playthroughs). At night across from the Inn (by the new building they're working on), a man will beckon you over and explain that he is going to cheat his business partner who is staying at the Inn. You cam go alone with him, decline or even keep the money for yourself. It also gives us a unique character behind the desk at the Inn, instead of the usual fella there.
It isn't rare. I've gotten this ambient event early in Chapter 2 in every playthrough, without trying to get it.
I got that in chapter 6 lol.
4 play throughs. Haven’t got it so far
The prostitute side mission with the pigs is a Deadwood reference. Episode one, Trixie, a prostitute at the Gem, shoots a guy for beatin on her. Most bodies (especially bodies at the hotel and the Gem) are fed to Mr Wu's pigs.
Wow, nice catch
wait so is she a serial killer or did she shoot the guy for beating her like trixie? lmfao now im confused.
That doesn’t mean it’s a deadwood reference. 🤦♂️
Ok, this one has really made me want to play again. Third playthrough, here I come!
There is another secret you can find in Valentine, Francis Sinclair is not the only one with the Epsilon program, if you go to the Graveyard at Valentine you can find a Eugene Dunn. On his gravestone you can find an Epsilon symbol, the wings with hourglass, another odd coincidence is Eugene had two twin sisters that died the same year Eugene died. An odd connection but i think the Epsilon program in RDR2 would be a good video for you to revisit.
i bet that coat is just the bartenders and hes just fucking with his customers lmao
The fact that grizzled jon get so worked up because you come back with his hat cracks me 😂😂 zi didn't know that detail
the man/actor who plays grizzled jon (and a few other npcs) is one my moms clients! he told her it was one of the funnest things he got to be apart of
That’s awesome. What does your mom do?
bro that clap at 4:28 lmao
As the first actual town that we encountered in the game, Valentine holds a special place for me 😊 It's such a great place!
I liked that side mission where you help the lady who just lost her husband and you can just chill there all the time as like a safe house.
Hey StrangeMan, I found a cool detail when I finished the whole game story. There was a thunderstorm, and I found out that animals and cattle get spooked of sudden thunder, you could add this to the next video in the details series :D
There is another event when we briefly see Thomas Downes before he infects Arthur:
When Arthur is thrown out of the window fighting against Tommy and then winning the fight, you can see Thomas Downes being the first one trying to intervene. Arthur immediately leaves the area and in the background we can briefly see that Mr. Downes tries to help Tommy, who is still lying in the mud.
that's what Arthur and Downes are talking about in the video - Arthur's brawl with Tommy
"You would have killed that man."
I think Arthur's already gone it and start of the game I've got something and downs just made it worse
you can encounter Downes also before beating up Tommy at the saloon and he will have another dialogue
Damn, im never this early to strangeman content
I ran in to the drunk couple peeping Tom guys but I didn’t want to ruin my honor. Although I was curious, so thanks for saving my honor
I just recently had to sell my Xbox series S because I have a kid on the way and we just really
Need the money. I’m gonna miss playing red dead but as soon as I have the money I’m immediately buying a ps5 or series X to get the most out of gaming. But god damn I’m gonna miss riding my ol miss and just enjoying the scenery in red dead. 😞😢
Tbh just get a Xbox one, won’t look as good but better then nothing.
Hope the birth went well, if your child’s been born yet. Congrats on becoming a parent
Loool you kept accidentally punching Innocent npc's 😭😭😂😂
2:26😂😂😂 no way
Hey it's lore accurate " oh god a women " sigma Arthur before gta6
Ohh boy can't wait for what this man will do when GTA 6 releases 🙌
Poor poor Tommy. I didn’t realize Til years later when I played again and fojnd him cleaning a saddle after the fight. Total vegetable. You also hear seeming in the bar tell you he ain’t the same anymore
1:24 he knocked out two people and got charged with vandalism
Fire 🔥
Thank you for new video!
I never knew about the Great Storm plaque on the church? Makes me wonder if the storm came about as a result of the curse that was placed upon Valentine.
Peeping Toms are in strawberry too. House across from the postal guy. Took a peep and got shot at by a woman.
Showing the Patreons with Downes saying "BE GENEROUS" was brilliant.
Just Started playing this again, such a great game and your content has always been the best out there
"That was pathetic, for all of us." 😂
I got excited when i saw the newspaper and it said "Micah Bell Killed"
You make some of my favorite RDR2 content on TH-cam man, I’ve found so many amazing things to do in RDR2 because of your videos my guy! Thank you for continuing to produce quality content and keeping RDR2 relevant! 8:11 they’re clearly indulging in the wacky tobacky 😂😂
Skål 🍻
What about the drunken fella that asks you the way to his house . You can choose to mislead him into the stables and a horse will knock him out with a kick lmao
Been here watching every strange man vid since the giant man’s identity revealed video❤ best read dead TH-camr
Your reactions during gameplay are priceless! They add so much entertainment value to the video. I find myself laughing out loud at your genuine responses, and it’s refreshing to see someone so passionate about gaming. Your authenticity makes your content relatable and enjoyable, and it’s clear that you love what you do. Keep sharing those moments; they truly resonate with your audience!
LETSSS GOOOOO. these vids are always so cozy
I always wondered who the screaming man was in valentine's hotel! Now i know i guess lol
Not too sure if this helps with the curse but you can hear an eagle during the day and an owl at night at the church in Val. Also, if you go up behind the church, up on the rise above all the unmarked graves, the back door of the church seems to morph and you can see something inside. You need to find a sweet-spot and it will light-up inside. Might just be a graphical error.
2:25 now that was her own fault, she basically dove into your fist
Beat the rice and gravy out of Tommy I didn’t want to but mom said don’t be fighting in them school clothes
4:47 the woman sounds like Harriet Davenport the naturalist
surely the woman being crazed about the cattle skull has got to have a bigger story behind it.
I wonder if it's a reference to Harriet from RDO.
Raccoon hat jon is the best character in the game. Full of wisdom. Awesome dialogue. I hope he is the protagonist in RDR3.
Never knew that toilet guys name was Mr. Presley 💀
Perfect timing-music with fight at 03:57, love your discoveries on this universe and your work, thank you
John is my favorite sparring partner. All I have to do is put on the raccoon hat, and he comes at me like a bull. As long as he lands the first hit, it's not assault.
Just started my 5th playthrough. Finally got that obscure denim scout jacket from Pearson!
Yes I’ve been waiting for Valentine
4:00 Tommy didn't suffer brain damage during the fight, but afterwards.
I like that the game doesn't even give you a prompt to read the Chelonian 'bible' when it's offered to you. Arthur just turns it down out of principle alone.
Very good, and interesting video. Makes me want to spend days there, just listening to the characters.
I would very much like to learn more about the curse, something about that just makes me wonder what could have been if they just had more time
Thank you, Strange Man!!
Im a simple Outlaw. I see Strange Man video, I click, Outlaw happy
Really hope GTA VI will have a lot of mysteries to uncover so we can keep watching your amazing content
Grizzled Jon is wearing something similar to the Legendary Panther cloak so I kind of respect him if he actually took some like Giagulo down. Also love having a nice scrap with him! He’s the best fist fighter in Valentine outside of poor Tommy.
Definately would love to see a revisited video of the valentine curse!
Valentine will always feel like home
Bro I love the comments you make on the videos
If you steal grizzled John’s hat and come back to Valentine after some time you can rent a room in the Hotel and put the hat on and you will see a red dot on the map moving toward you with speed and in a few minutes he will burst through the door and start to fight you…
sometimes i go to a place called woodhaven lakes and near there is a place that looks similar to valentine and theres even a church at the same exact area
Just found your TH-cam channel. Good work! I just started another play through and this game is just incredible. One of best games ever made. I’m gonna watch some of your other videos. Any recommendations from anyone is welcome. God speed cowboys 👍🤠
You are a God STRANGEMAN!
6:50 "Thank you for the show!" 😅
Was there already a vid about the serial killer? Love your content!
theres also peeping toms in strawberry you can look to but you get wanted
11:00 I have a clip in PS4 of a intense storm in the game. How can I give it to you? Is the only tine I have seen a intense storm in the game, I think it was a bug
YESSS I WAS WAITING FOR THIS ONE!
2:26 I half-expected Britney Spears to play. 🤣
in my game, we're at the camp beside the water now. perhaps i will pay my bounty in valentine so i could explore these again hahahah
Fun fact I found out last night.
The random encounter bear valentine where the odriscolls are trying to break their friend out of the wagon.
Well if you hogtied him and take him to the jail rather than killing him you get money for it 😂😂 Rockstar really went all out
More and more I see videos like this. I think this was the greatest game ever produced. I have way more love for RDR 2 then any GTA series. Not to say they wasn't good. But the amount of details, story telling, and other side tell's is extraordinary. Question is will the New GTA surpass RDR2 on all aspects??? 🤔
No. The old Rockstar creative leadership and team is long gone.
Something worth watching that isnt the Euro's 2024 final
I personally would ove a revisit to Valentine’s Curse, please consider making it! and thank you for this amazing video
As someone with bowel disease, trust me, hell is not worse.
07:14 soooomoene's Tom is peepin out for sure!!! #OOOOOOOPS
I died when you accidently punched the innocent bystander lmaoo
I dont know if it has been mentioned, but @11:55 is also the moment where Auther gets tuberculosis.
Hell Yeah ! Thanks for the vidéo and keeping it up! yes i would like the revisited video of the valentine mistery. Thanks alot Strange Man you rocks alot !!
The guy who got the blunderbuss is the invisible sniper
Racoon hat man is HANDS DOWN my favorite NPC.
Bloody hell you're insightful! How do you do it? I named my son Arthur after playing rdr2
Damn imagine that
Regarding the course, I thought the people heard Dutch and Arthur going down the river, shouting and screaming
Maybe the woman refusing to come in is Harriet from online, she fits the description pretty well if you ask me
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