My 156 1.8 TS has a similar engine, is 21 years old, 45,000 miles, first Cam belt Change since new this week, felt it was time ! The car was sparingly run some years, I know the belt should have been changed but being mechanical I on occasion would inspect its condition by partially removing the belt cover.. So just for the record the removed belt still looks and feels okay, no oil or anything, bit shiny on the back, and some small cracking on the back when folded, teeth side was flawless, original white toothed tensioner bearing still smooth, no free play, plain tensioner had a very slight play, I took the seals of the bearing and washed the old grease out, the ball bearings and cage was still good, bearing balls not as shiny as a new bearing, with new grease could run a while more. The water pump also was fine, smooth no wear.. Gates make strong quality Belts, I have some experience with Gates Belts in my previous work as offshore, never saw one snap for no reason, contamination or bearing failures being the main causes..Great Video., long live Alfa Romeo !
Brought my 145 QV with 80k and 8 years later 141k. Still had the white tensioner too🤙 Maybe these Italian engines deserves more credit than they get. My old belt was ok considering. Bit crispy but no real bad signs of cracks.
BTW, when I did replace the cambelts after my ownership of 60k miles - no idea how many more miles it was done when I brought the car with 80k, the cambelt was a Gates belt. This belt had racked up 60k+.
Even better at my 147. The first time suspension arms were changed this week. After 17 years! Upper ones had AR logo on them and it's impossible to buy as new. Original spare parts are made by TRW. It had to be mounted at the factory.
@volci321 On the scale you're talking about, weight is insignificant. They also require tensioner replacement too. Lubrication is not an issue with chains as they are IN the engine and can have a direct oil feed. The ONLY reason for the use of a timing belt is to cut corners in order to save money, end of.
I was wondering: what do you think about changing the main bearings on the 1.8 Twin Spark and the 2.5 v6 in a 156 as a precaution? I've heard people do it on the 2 litre Twinnys and some folks suggested the later model 1.8 litre and the 2.5 v6 would be more robust in regards to that. Since having these done just to have peace of mind is quite a luxury, I thought I get your opinion on this. Cheers
Hello, congratulations for your videos, could you tell me if the camshafts especially admitted in the 2.0 ts and 2.0 jts engines are the same? If not, what is the difference? Thanks greetings
Any chance you could point me in the right direction for cheap belts and water pumps? Been told that vauxhall, fiat and saab use the same belts, I've been quoted over £500 to have stuff fitted that says alfa on the package
The belt lasted well the one on my vectors was 14 years old with 96,000 on it when I bought it 1st thing I did was get the belt changed The interval is 10 years or 100,000 miles it was badly cracked
well done i'm a big fan of you i like to fix my car with myself, i have 147 ts 1.6 model 2001 i buy it used with 130000km , on the first startup i hear rattle noise only for few seconds then it's dissapear if i start the enginge after a while 2 or 3 hours then i hear the noise again i dont know if it's the lifters of the variator or bad oil brand i added new 10/40 semi syn do i have to flush the engine or what
SpecialVeloce if u want reliability don’t get a Alfa We had 2 brand new 157s one a v6 and one 2.slow twinspark They were shit Electrical nightmares not reliable cars at all and rust for fun
@@kells77 it's taken me buying an 18 year old 147 T Spark that had been left on a driveway for years to have a breakdown in an Alfa Romeo when the corroded old crank sensor died and all my Alfa's have been second hand.
I've never really understood WHY people insist on talking about mileage when they talk about engines and their upkeeping. Coming from a marine background engines should be based on TIME not distance. A low mileage car like this could have spent years in traffic jams in town with the engine running while a similar car could have spent years trundling up and down the motorway. Low mileage is NOT the sign of a little used engine although this one seems to be simply old but unused. Aircraft have a similar log book to marine craft and the consequences are dire if you break down. You don't care HOW far or NEAR you've been. The cambelt is changed whether you like it or not at fixed times.
@@uranusneptun5239 Even MORE reason to judge engines by the TIME they are running/not running, and NOT their mileage. Belt change every 5 years regardless of mileage is correct OR upon inspection, if needed.
Souch a shame how steep the road tax is on these now. £ 265 when I had one, now £ 305 just for a 1.6 I think . And then there is the variator about £110 in 2012 , now £ 250 . I would probably have another as a second car if it wasn't so expensive.
Neil, in regard the cambelt kit Gates say their’s are guaranteed for 5 years which is way over the 2 years offered by most manufacturers. Can you tell me why so many garages always seem to say genuine Alfa genuine Alfa when their life expectancy time and again is crap- e.g. suspension bits. I just don’t get it. I’d be running as fast as I could from the original stuff to quality such as SKF or Febi etc.
Na Na skf i prefer but people want genuine where possible. Just not a fan of gates due to there bad rep, think that’s why they offer 5 years now. Ps have you ever tried to get your money/labour back if one failed after 12 months.
Can you point me in the right direction in where the best place to buy a kit is? I look on euros they don’t include the balance shaft belt or the idlers
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My 156 1.8 TS has a similar engine, is 21 years old, 45,000 miles, first Cam belt Change since new this week, felt it was time ! The car was sparingly run some years, I know the belt should have been changed but being mechanical I on occasion would inspect its condition by partially removing the belt cover.. So just for the record the removed belt still looks and feels okay, no oil or anything, bit shiny on the back, and some small cracking on the back when folded, teeth side was flawless, original white toothed tensioner bearing still smooth, no free play, plain tensioner had a very slight play, I took the seals of the bearing and washed the old grease out, the ball bearings and cage was still good, bearing balls not as shiny as a new bearing, with new grease could run a while more. The water pump also was fine, smooth no wear.. Gates make strong quality Belts, I have some experience with Gates Belts in my previous work as offshore, never saw one snap for no reason, contamination or bearing failures being the main causes..Great Video., long live Alfa Romeo !
Brought my 145 QV with 80k and 8 years later 141k. Still had the white tensioner too🤙 Maybe these Italian engines deserves more credit than they get. My old belt was ok considering. Bit crispy but no real bad signs of cracks.
i love 145's cant wait for my restoration to be finished.
BTW, when I did replace the cambelts after my ownership of 60k miles - no idea how many more miles it was done when I brought the car with 80k, the cambelt was a Gates belt. This belt had racked up 60k+.
wow thanks for the vlog of15year old cam-belt and tensioner
Even better at my 147. The first time suspension arms were changed this week. After 17 years! Upper ones had AR logo on them and it's impossible to buy as new. Original spare parts are made by TRW. It had to be mounted at the factory.
WOW !!! And people blame Alfa engineering when the belts snap !!
Yes, rightfully so aswell. Chains should be used.
@volci321 On the scale you're talking about, weight is insignificant. They also require tensioner replacement too. Lubrication is not an issue with chains as they are IN the engine and can have a direct oil feed. The ONLY reason for the use of a timing belt is to cut corners in order to save money, end of.
I was wondering: what do you think about changing the main bearings on the 1.8 Twin Spark and the 2.5 v6 in a 156 as a precaution? I've heard people do it on the 2 litre Twinnys and some folks suggested the later model 1.8 litre and the 2.5 v6 would be more robust in regards to that. Since having these done just to have peace of mind is quite a luxury, I thought I get your opinion on this.
Cheers
Cuantos años lleva sin cambiar la correa de distribución 15 años?
Hard to believe the cambelt lasted so long without coming apart/breaking.
Tell me about it
Hello, congratulations for your videos, could you tell me if the camshafts especially admitted in the 2.0 ts and 2.0 jts engines are the same? If not, what is the difference? Thanks greetings
Nope different
Any chance you could point me in the right direction for cheap belts and water pumps? Been told that vauxhall, fiat and saab use the same belts, I've been quoted over £500 to have stuff fitted that says alfa on the package
Fantastic video as always, keep rocking!
The belt lasted well the one on my vectors was 14 years old with 96,000 on it when I bought it
1st thing I did was get the belt changed
The interval is 10 years or 100,000 miles it was badly cracked
well done i'm a big fan of you i like to fix my car with myself, i have 147 ts 1.6 model 2001 i buy it used with 130000km , on the first startup i hear rattle noise only for few seconds then it's dissapear if i start the enginge after a while 2 or 3 hours then i hear the noise again i dont know if it's the lifters of the variator or bad oil brand i added new 10/40 semi syn do i have to flush the engine or what
Good stuff. Thanks for watching.
Now this is a good cars sale advertisement for me i suppose, if you want a reliable car buy it.
SpecialVeloce if u want reliability don’t get a Alfa
We had 2 brand new 157s one a v6 and one 2.slow twinspark
They were shit
Electrical nightmares not reliable cars at all and rust for fun
Brad Kells oh wow 157 nice. so you had a car that doesn‘t exist? fuck off moron
@@kells77 it's taken me buying an 18 year old 147 T Spark that had been left on a driveway for years to have a breakdown in an Alfa Romeo when the corroded old crank sensor died and all my Alfa's have been second hand.
I've never really understood WHY people insist on talking about mileage when they talk about engines and their upkeeping.
Coming from a marine background engines should be based on TIME not distance.
A low mileage car like this could have spent years in traffic jams in town with the engine running while a similar car could have spent years trundling up and down the motorway.
Low mileage is NOT the sign of a little used engine although this one seems to be simply old but unused.
Aircraft have a similar log book to marine craft and the consequences are dire if you break down.
You don't care HOW far or NEAR you've been. The cambelt is changed whether you like it or not at fixed times.
Even if it is standing most of the time, the belt gets old.
@@uranusneptun5239 Even MORE reason to judge engines by the TIME they are running/not running, and NOT their mileage.
Belt change every 5 years regardless of mileage is correct OR upon inspection, if needed.
@@team3383 True!
amazing
I had mine for 9 years on my ibiza 1.4 16v
@Italia Autos Hello, Wich timing belt for Alfa 147 1.6 tspark? Original Ricambi - SKF- GATES- DAYCO ? Thanks.
Whats the best brand to buy for the Cambelt and water pump replacement kit?
Skf
@@ItaliaAutos thanks....mine snaped a few days ago while stationary :( Should i expect a lot of damage? 1.6ts 16v
@@leonperko7561 How many km and how old was your belt?
Souch a shame how steep the road tax is on these now. £ 265 when I had one, now £ 305 just for a 1.6 I think . And then there is the variator about £110 in 2012 , now £ 250 . I would probably have another as a second car if it wasn't so expensive.
Neil, in regard the cambelt kit Gates say their’s are guaranteed for 5 years which is way over the 2 years offered by most manufacturers. Can you tell me why so many garages always seem to say genuine Alfa genuine Alfa when their life expectancy time and again is crap- e.g. suspension bits. I just don’t get it. I’d be running as fast as I could from the original stuff to quality such as SKF or Febi etc.
Na Na skf i prefer but people want genuine where possible. Just not a fan of gates due to there bad rep, think that’s why they offer 5 years now. Ps have you ever tried to get your money/labour back if one failed after 12 months.
Can you show how to use the gauge for TDC on the pistons please, mine is due a change (14 years) and I'll have to do it myself.
Next belt change I will.
@@ItaliaAutos
Cheers mate, I've shared your channel on F.B groups, hope you get more sign ups
Thanks. 👍👍
Can you point me in the right direction in where the best place to buy a kit is? I look on euros they don’t include the balance shaft belt or the idlers
You have to order separately
Try AUTODOC they have way more selection and do kits that include the pump.
What about water pump?
All done.
@@ItaliaAutos wp also changed after 15y?
Was the water pump bad then to why he wanted it changed?
no faults with water pump but changed anyway.
When you do this service. You change everything you don't won't to risk peacose of the pump or some stupid roller
@@MrVukovicivan on the cambelt and balance belt side yes.
Phase variator!
That was perfectly fine and silent
Did you do the variatior too? Sounds a bit rattly
Variator is fine. It's just audio on the camera. 😁👍
Variator also still in shape?
MrKkprince yes that was fine still.
I can hear from this video that it's not ok...🤔🤔
15years😱😱😱😱😱😱
Italia autos e parla straniero e che roba o
Cambelt every 3 years ??
Thank god I don’t own a Alfa
your loss