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I have both. I value both. Of course, I only use one: the Smart Lid. Why? Simply because when pressure cooking with the Smart Lid machine, I can also select a time at which the machine will automatically release the built up pressure; for example, for eggs, after selecting 4 minutes of pressure cooking, I can also select that the machine will release the built up pressure immediately. Or when pressure cooking dried beans, I can select 30 minutes, and then select a 10 minute delay for the machine to automatically release pressure. . With the Pro version of the machine, you have to manual release the pressure. Also, with the Smart Lid, is an option to get an internal thermometer, which will stop the cooking once needed internal temperature is reached; for example, for fish, the machine will stop cooking once internal temperature reaches 145 degrees; for chicken, 165 degrees. (You change the selected temps if you need.) I was blessed to be a caregiver for my Mom. Sometimes my focus was narrow, I was subject to forgetting or working outside the kitchen. So I spent the dollars to get the Smart Lid for the purpose of more "hand off food prep." The Smart Lid is a great machine. But it cooks the same as the Pro. Regarding the Smart Lid machines "SteamCrisp" option. The Pro does not provide this option. However, unless you are into exotic bread making (some bread benefits from chewy crust due to baking under steam), the "SteamCrisp" option is not a satisfactory replacement for, say, pressure cooking a whole chicken - relatively fast, tender, juicy - then pouring out the water and air frying for about 15 minutes. The outer of the chicken is far crispier than with the (unsatisfactory) "StreamCrisp" option; it just follows the commonsense physics, you can't get as much crispy in a steamy (soggy) cooker.. Neither I, nor any others I have found on the web, have been satisfied by the SmartLid's "SteamCrisp" (again, excepting some bread making). Given my personal experience, I would buy the Pro: The added automatic features of the Smart Lid are nice in theory, but did not translate into meaningful practical benefit. But machines cook equally great. The Pro costs less and produces every bit equally in high quality cooking. Both machines have more than lived up to the hype and hope. Over time, my kitchen work / nutrition output has evolved to be far better than ever before. I made a very good decision to purchase.
The smart lid is self cleaning as you run pressure and steam cycles to melt off grease. The older version could not be cleaned without voiding your warranty and taking it apart.
Mine still seems fine... I due a cleaning once in a while and steam cleans more often than that. Still looks new inside an di haven't noticed any lingering smells or anything just yet. We did a cleaning video for this also, in case that's something that interests you... Here's the link, just in case. th-cam.com/video/Y7lksA_17Ao/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much! there are so many videos out there about these machines, without facts or comparisons... you went just straight to the point, never wasted a second! 100% Awesome!
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but, here is what Ninja says: "While you can still find some Foodi's at retailers, Ninja has discontinued making them, or anything with a pressure cooker function." Went to the Ninja site to see what models of pressure cookers -- NOTHING. All that is left is what is in retailers warehouses. Also, warranty and parts may not be honored. Even some models listed on Amazon say "NO LONGER AVAILABLE".
Heya. Ninja had to discontinue all of their pressure cooker line... I know there was some sort of settlement where people had the pressure lid explode off, so this might have something to do with it. For pressure cooker shoppers, I do have a review up for the Chef IQ, which is pretty neat. Here is the link if you'd like to see that. th-cam.com/video/fzJatNkt5UE/w-d-xo.html
@@JoesPhenomenal probably good to include this information. I am just literally click away from buying but thanks to this comment I am looking else where
I live in the U.K. I bought the 11in1 as I live alone. We have an energy crisis here hence my purchase as it’s too expensive to run the main now. So far I’m absolutely in love with this, I never considered the other one with 2 lids that meant finding storage for the second lid. And the steam air fry function on the 11in1 is amazing. Pressure cooked gammon joint is another great option too. All under one lid.
I know this is an older review but I'm faced with this dilemma trying to consolidate some appliances. The smart lid concern is that we use our air fryer sometimes multiple times daily. While I like the access to clean the smart lid, I don't really want to have to do it to the extent that you did - yours is spotless! I'm thinking that if I miss something with the clean up on the smart lid, whatever I missed ends up dripping into my next pressure cooked meal? Of course reading comments below, the fact that the smart lid cleans itself is its own bonus.... Geez! What to do...what to do...lol. Thank you for the super comprehensive review video!
Thanks! I wouldn't worry about the smart lid dripping stuff into new cooks too much. That heating element burns a lot of that off. If you're doing mostly air frys probably you won't get TOO much up in there. Man.. If they designed it with a removable coil, that would. Hav made it so much easier.
Watch The Salted Pepper's comparison demo of the p4essure cookers. She demos how to do first time pressure cooker to clean it. It's super easy, and I donit at least once a week while I'm doing after-dinner clean-up. The smart lid models are well worth it imho
Great video! 👏🏾 The 13-in-1 and 14-in-1 Ninja Food Smart Lid Pressure Cooker is on sale on Amazon, Walmart, and eBay at the moment. I still have an old Crockpot slow cooker and was researching all the hype about air fryers and pressure cookers. Your video helped me in the decision making progress tremendously. Thank you 👍🏾
All the extra functions of the newer machine can also be done on the older model. The function settings are just setting, temp and time, which can be manually set.
I've had mine for a few months though, can confirm the lid stays way cleaner than my old Foodi. That thing was impossible to clean the grill. It basically self cleans when you steam fry. You definitely need to keep an eye on the gasket ring collecting stuff, but that's the same as the old one.
Good to know! Yeah.. when I made my cleaning video for the smart lid version, there wasn't really a whole lot to actually clean up in there. Was pleasantly surprised.
Thank you for this comparison. I have the old machine. I’m a little disappointed that it doesn’t have the slow cook mode but then I have a crock pot anyway so no big deal. I have a 3 quart Instant Pot that does have the slow cook mode. I found I need to put it on high when doing the slow cook mode as suggested on another video. It’s just me and my husband so we rarely need a large slow cooker. This was helpful in that I don’t have any question whether I need to upgrade or not. I’m going to keep my machine. It’s ain’t broke so I ain’t “fixing it”. Thanks again !
@@IdaHorner Thank you for that. I tried it I THOUGHT and it went to a high heat. I’ll need to read up on it or of course, maybe a TH-cam ! Thanks again !
It's not really all that different anyway. A couple of extra features and the single lid. If I wasn't running a TH-cam Channel and needed it for content, I likely wouldn't have spent the extra money, myself. I do like it a lot though..... like the old one!
Marvid, they do! Way too many models... I have to look this stuff up constantly to keep it straight.. Also depending on the retailer, they offer slightly different models and numbers for "exclusive" bundles and things like that....
It seems like it takes longer to pressurize due to the extra volume in the smart lid. The lid is simply higher up from the pot and; therefore, takes longer to pressurize the chamber.
Great comparison! So, going by what you’ve shown, Ninja hasn’t made the smart lid foodie better than the pro model but just different with a couple of extra functions.
Yeah. It's a little better, and that smart lid is cool, since I kinda hated flipping open the lid on the other one and clamping on the pressure cooker lid (the outer lid isn't removable so it just dangles there when pressure cooking), but functionally it's about the same.
Hey Joe! I decided to go for the smart lid one 8 Qt, and just purchased one on QVC! It just having one lid is what got me! Can’t wait for it to arrive! Your demo video is awesome! My justification for the upgrade is that I already have one like the old model in 5 Qt, its awesome and I love it, but need an 8qt, and don’t really want that two lid storage problem.
@@HappyBeeTV-BeeHappy nice! Glad you liked it! I thought about doing the 8qt too, but I have such a space problem that I needed to save every inch... Probably should have just got that one, myself... It can do 3 layered cooking too.... Pretty sweet.
So, I watched both videos... but no mention of which one is easier to clean? I mean the ones one the pro look easier to clean since the new one has an exposed heating element.. but you'd need to clean 2 lids some of the time & like you said the new one has a better drip cannal going to the drip tray.
Heya, Twenty... Actually working on a cleaning video for this.... They're both a little bit of a pain in the neck, to be honest. The pro hides the heating element a litle better, but you have to remove a bunch of screws to clean back behind the the plate, The smart lid version doesn't have that plate, but like you said, everything is exposed more. For me It's still easier on the smart lid one, since I didn't have to break out a toolbox to get into where I wanted to. For the most part, they stay pretty surprisingly clean if you are wiping down after each use, for if your using it often, I'd still do a better cleaning every few weeks... will work on getting that video out.
Here is the information I got from Ninja Kitchen: ceramic-coated pot: Nonstick, PTFE/PFOA free, and easy to hand-wash. XL 5-qt. Cook & Crisp™ Basket: Large-capacity, ceramic-coated, PTFE/PFOA-free nonstick basket is dishwasher safe and holds up to a 7-lb. Hope that helps.
Finally a more haunted video, I can read the features, modes and appreciate what it looks like on Amazon. So many videos simply outline this for 10 mins which makes the review redundant imho. Thank you for going into more detail and showing the differences using food. One minor point is that it would of been nice if you went into a little more detail about the main modes, ie broiling vs air frying a joint or wings Otherwise great video
I just found the older one at Walmart for new $130 tax included I have the original first one and use it almost every day it’s around 3 years old and still going strong,just wanted an additional one at a discount price.Apparently they are discounting/clearance them
Thanks for the review. On my old ninja the heating element and fan get dirty after air frying a lot. I wonder if on the new one the same happens, and if that dirt mixes up with food being cooked with pressure since the lid is the same. Can you share your thoughts on that? Thank you
Mine has stayed pretty clean... It doesn't have the guard down below the heating element, so it's a lot easier to get up in there for cleaning, though. You can also run steam cycles on it with some water, lemon juice, and detergent, and that can do a pretty great job, also. I do have a video on here someplace about cleaning that machine also that might be helpful, also.
@@JoesPhenomenal thank you for your replay . I really like your review video. I checked again on ninja Website all the foodi seems same width and high...
Hi, Monisha! I checked on those dimensions and it appears that the 6.5 qt models are about 16x14x13 and the 8 qt. Version is 16x15x14.... So a little bigger, but not by as much as I thought... And I was rounding a little too!
Sorry @@JoesPhenomenal, wrong terminology...the crisp element. How do you clean behind it? The only reason I haven't bought a Ninja is the fact I cant imagine getting it clean...could you advice from your experience?
Heya... Depends on the function. The loudest is the air fry function and that gets up to about 78 decibels due to the fan noise. It loud, but for me, it's not horrible.
Whoa that’s weird. My smartlid is touch screen. How come yours has buttons? But yeah, i use my smart lid mainly for pressure cooking and that bad boy takes forever. I have had to restart in because i wasn’t sure if it was working or not. Great machine though. My buddy gifted it to me for Christmas.
They change the design on those constantly. Might have to get one of the touch ones. The pressure cooking is weird if you've never done it before... Had to build all that pressure up before it does anything. If you use the low setting it's way faster though. I've gotten used to waiting on it a little.
No mention of the included thermometer with the smart lid version, that for me was a great addition, i am giving the older unit, which is still a great bit of kit to my dsaughter.
Heya Paul! Ours didn't have the thermometer feature. At the time, I think only the 8qt version had that. Definitely would love to take advantage of that though.
@@LeonardoSummers they made a few different versions of the smartlid one. Mine didn't have the probe on it. Would have been a nice feature to have though.
Heya! Thanks for the tip. Thought about that one at first, and according to the manuals, the power ratings are identical. After a while I did notice the the rubber seal inside of the smartlid was a tiny bis twisted, so I removed it and cleaned everything up really good and re-installed it, and it seems to be better than it was... so I'm thinking maybe the seal was leaking a little due to that under lower pressure.
What if I want to cook several sorts..like rice and mest.. I have to cook rice first..then meat ? I mean I cannot cook together but separately inside the mashine??
You can use the rack to layer stuff if you like, or you can cook stuff together. It still works out. If you're using dry rice, I would still try to layer it though, since you don't want to end up adding or losing water that might absorb into other stuff..... You could end up with hard or overcooked rice that way.
It depends what you primarily cook. If your main use for the machine is pressure cooking, thne the old machine is easier, since the pressure cooking lid is separate and doesn't have anything hanging off it. For pretty much everything else, the smart lid version is better, because the main lid of the old machine has that big grate on it covering everything up that is hard to clean behind.
Yeah.. It still gets dirty up in there... It's harder to clean because of the guard also. That can be removed if you have some of the security hex bits though. I suppose it's good protection, but I've never had mine full enough to where there was anything sitting up high enough to need that.
@@JoesPhenomenal yeah, because I'm thinking old one is better. It will last longer. It's never a good idea to mix heating elements and high pressure water. And one thing goes wrong on this thing, everything is junk.
@@JoesPhenomenal I'm reading the manual here... it talks about a cook and crisp basket. There is no basket ..there is a second smaller black pan, a rack and a crisp plate I guess. I don't see a basket.
The basket is an option you can buy from the website. It works like the flat Crisping plate that you have, except it's a basket and has a coupple of little handles on it.
@@JoesPhenomenal Oh, so the website just assumes I bought the crisping basket already. I'm trying to cook the chicken on the provided rack. OMG the fan is annoyingly LOUD. I am in my bedroom and I can hear it spinning from the kitchen... dam ... that is loud!! Is that normal??? I have to listen to this for 50 minutes..lol... I might take it back.
Yep... It's pretty loud whne you're running the air fry on it. Luckily noise has never really bothered me that much so I can block it out a bit.. Unless it's a crying baby in a plane. Haha
I have the one with the smart lid, and am soo sorry I bought it !!! Pressure cooking is great, but, air frying is awful, it is soo loud and noisy that I have to wear headphones while cooking !!! Next time I will buy the one with the 2 lids, cannot believe the company would actually sell something so loud and annoying !!!
Yeah... It's exemely loud. Might be part of the reason Ninja doesn't do Pressure cookers anymore. I have a Chef IQ one that I'm working on a review for that's really great, however, it doesn't do air frys.
I do.. we have 4 different dressings.. all super low calorie with zero preservatives.. I have some videos about them on the channel but they are super old.. Ironically, I happen to be re recording those today.. haha. If you look at our videos page, they are all the way at the bottom... with all the other horribly recorded stuff. We have info about them on our website also at: www.joesphenomenal.com
Heya AK... Most of your comment got cut off there, so I can't really see the whole thing.... If I remember right, they both should give you a countdown timer for pressure cooking.
Hi, I purchased this a few months ago mainly for the pressure cooking setting. I tried the pressure setting a few times and always gets the "no pressure" message. I add more liquid, and it still happens. So freaking frustrating!! I bought this to speed up the process and end up spending much more time trying over and over and end up cooking on the stove top. I'm about to throw this shit away. Why do you think this keeps happening. I usually have let's say: 1/4 to 1/3 with solids (meat, chicken, rice etc) the the rest liquid. Never more than 1/ 2 to 2/3 full total.. I'm I doing something wrong or is my machine defective. Or am I just stupid? I have the newer version BTW
Hmm... Let's see if we can trouble shoot this..... as far as I know, there are 3 things that can give you the no pressure error (other than the thing just being busted). First, it could be not enough water in there. Looks like you got that one covered though. Second, check the big rubber seal in the lid and make sure it's freely moving and not getting pinched or squished anywhere. Third, check the pressure valve on the top and make sure it isn't set to open..... I do this one ALL THE DANG TIME. I flip it to release pressure, and always forget to put it back for the next time...hopefully, it's one of those for you.
@JoesPhenomenal thanks. I'll recheck when I get home. I used it last night. First, I made beef Stew with the liquids needed, and it pressurized perfectly for 12 minutes. I released the pressure.. perfect. Then, I went to add rice and pressure for another 10 min or so, and that's when the message kept appearing. It looked to have more than enough liquid. But u went on and added another cup of water And still, the same error. That's what keeps happening to me. I ending up cooking the rice in there on the steam mode and luckily it worked. But idk why this happens. All in all, the pot was about halfway full. I understand it there was just too much stuff and it doesn't have space to pressure but I doubt that was it. Very frustrating as that function was the reason why I bought the damn thing. Lol. I will check the seal, but I doubt it because it did the beef just fine. It happened once I added the rice. I'm gonna have to contact customer service.. thanks again brother. Keep up the great content!!
At the end of a program (air fryer in this case) what happens on yours? I tried to do crispy chicken in two batches, the the first lot finished I couldn't find a way back to the menu so I could start it again. The only way out I found was to power off and on again. (this is my first day with the Ninja, but with only a Start/stop button and a menu selector wheel, I can't see what else I could be missing).
Hmm.. Which model do you have? On the ones with the smart lid, when the air fry finishes, it blinks a message about being done a few times, and then goes back to the menu. If you open it up before it gets done, then you have to hit the stop button to get it to do the same thing. It takes a few seconds though. Do you have the older version with the 2 different lids?
I wonder if I'm the only one who sees a problem in this second generation multicooker? If in the old one the grill is not used in the main modes, then in the new one, even if you cook soup, you pollute the grill very much !!!!! The old one has a second lid for cooking, but the new one has one for everything! I think this is an epically stupid technical solution.
You know.. It's funny that you say that. That's kind of what I thought it was going to be like before picking up the second Gen machine. In my personal experience (and that can really vary depending on the person), I haven't had any issues with the inside of the lid getting all gross. Used it pretty extensively too.... Really all they did was add the pressure plates into the regular lid so it can pressure seal. Other than that it's really pretty similar. The grate not being there hasn't seemed to make a ton of difference for me...one thing that bugs me about it is that fact if you rely on it too much, and it breaks or something, then you effectively lose most of your cooking functions...i suppose you could day that about a lot of machines though.
We are in the UK and just received a Ninja Foodi max 11-in-1 multi-cooker and wonder how the time & temp compares with our oven. For example, we are fans of frozen Thai Prawn Fishcakes which Waitrose recommends are cooked at 200 C deg (fan) for 30mins which seems to be on the high side for similar recipes suggested for Air frying in Ninja cookbooks? Any thoughts?
Sure... keep in mind that it's a much smaller area to heat, so it will take less time to get it up to temperature, and also will maintain that temp better... not to mention that the functions that use the fan will benefit from less distance that the air has to move. The time and temp differences will vary according to what you're putting in there, so you might have to experiment a little, but a good starting point for me was knocking time and temp down about 10% and moving around from there... it to be easier, you can just use the same temp, but cut down the time a little more.... That second one is what I nomally do... then you only have to worry about messing with one setting.
It's pretty loud.... Certainly can be annoying. The main lid on the Pro is pretty close, volume-wise. Noise has always been a weird issue with Ninja products.... Mostly that noise it coming from the fan blade design. Computers used to have the same issue with those whiney cpu fans also. Really wish they would get some better control over that.
Ughhh that ugly slider is soooo not long nails friendly… puts me off to pay $349 to break my nails… as you know good manicure is average $90. Why they didn’t put nice circular turn knob instead of slider like they got on the bottom
I think the mechanical spider might have had something to do with the pressure cooking feature... Of the ones I've seen, I don't really call any pressure lids using an electric motors to seal that on... They've all been mechanical with some sort of lever... Maybe it needs to be that way do to safety? I dunno.
I don't do long nails anyway, so I don't have that problem.manicured nails always made so many every day hands-on tasks way more awkward than they need to ge....just mho
I didn't have that one available at the time. When I did this video the thermometer version only came in the 8qt size... Nit sure if it's made its way to the 6.5 yet or not off the top of my head, but if it's available in that size, it's a definite go-to feature. I usually steer towards the smaller machines due to super limited counter space.
Yeah.... That whine can be annoying. It's mostly evident when air frying. It doesn't bother me too much, but I can definitely see how it can with a lot of people.
Is the New Ninja Foodi Pressure Cooker Steam Fryer with Smart Lid different enough from the old version to be compelling to you? ? Let me know! If you liked this video, you might want to see the full reviews of these here: th-cam.com/video/7u6OVgMwQlA/w-d-xo.html, th-cam.com/video/KUYGHSh9Y6M/w-d-xo.html
I have both. I value both. Of course, I only use one: the Smart Lid. Why? Simply because when pressure cooking with the Smart Lid machine, I can also select a time at which the machine will automatically release the built up pressure; for example, for eggs, after selecting 4 minutes of pressure cooking, I can also select that the machine will release the built up pressure immediately. Or when pressure cooking dried beans, I can select 30 minutes, and then select a 10 minute delay for the machine to automatically release pressure. . With the Pro version of the machine, you have to manual release the pressure.
Also, with the Smart Lid, is an option to get an internal thermometer, which will stop the cooking once needed internal temperature is reached; for example, for fish, the machine will stop cooking once internal temperature reaches 145 degrees; for chicken, 165 degrees. (You change the selected temps if you need.)
I was blessed to be a caregiver for my Mom. Sometimes my focus was narrow, I was subject to forgetting or working outside the kitchen. So I spent the dollars to get the Smart Lid for the purpose of more "hand off food prep." The Smart Lid is a great machine. But it cooks the same as the Pro.
Regarding the Smart Lid machines "SteamCrisp" option. The Pro does not provide this option. However, unless you are into exotic bread making (some bread benefits from chewy crust due to baking under steam), the "SteamCrisp" option is not a satisfactory replacement for, say, pressure cooking a whole chicken - relatively fast, tender, juicy - then pouring out the water and air frying for about 15 minutes. The outer of the chicken is far crispier than with the (unsatisfactory) "StreamCrisp" option; it just follows the commonsense physics, you can't get as much crispy in a steamy (soggy) cooker.. Neither I, nor any others I have found on the web, have been satisfied by the SmartLid's "SteamCrisp" (again, excepting some bread making).
Given my personal experience, I would buy the Pro: The added automatic features of the Smart Lid are nice in theory, but did not translate into meaningful practical benefit. But machines cook equally great. The Pro costs less and produces every bit equally in high quality cooking.
Both machines have more than lived up to the hype and hope. Over time, my kitchen work / nutrition output has evolved to be far better than ever before. I made a very good decision to purchase.
Thanks, Steve! That is amazing info and insight!
The smart lid is self cleaning as you run pressure and steam cycles to melt off grease. The older version could not be cleaned without voiding your warranty and taking it apart.
That right there is an awesome bit of information! Thanks, Kris. That definitely tilts the scales more towards the smart lid version more!
Ah, just the confirmation to my hypothesis that I needed.. is the steam/pressure valve removable though? I imagine it can get clogged up.
@@twentyfifthjt7888 very unlikely to clog, it steam cleans itself
Yeah.. Mine seems to stay pretty clean. When I clean the pressure valve cover, there's never really anything on it.
Mine still seems fine... I due a cleaning once in a while and steam cleans more often than that. Still looks new inside an di haven't noticed any lingering smells or anything just yet. We did a cleaning video for this also, in case that's something that interests you... Here's the link, just in case. th-cam.com/video/Y7lksA_17Ao/w-d-xo.html
Thank you so much!
there are so many videos out there about these machines, without facts or comparisons... you went just straight to the point, never wasted a second! 100% Awesome!
You're welcome! Glad I could help ya out
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but, here is what Ninja says: "While you can still find some Foodi's at retailers, Ninja has discontinued making them, or anything with a pressure cooker function." Went to the Ninja site to see what models of pressure cookers -- NOTHING. All that is left is what is in retailers warehouses. Also, warranty and parts may not be honored. Even some models listed on Amazon say "NO LONGER AVAILABLE".
Heya. Ninja had to discontinue all of their pressure cooker line... I know there was some sort of settlement where people had the pressure lid explode off, so this might have something to do with it. For pressure cooker shoppers, I do have a review up for the Chef IQ, which is pretty neat. Here is the link if you'd like to see that. th-cam.com/video/fzJatNkt5UE/w-d-xo.html
@@JoesPhenomenal probably good to include this information. I am just literally click away from buying but thanks to this comment I am looking else where
@harrykuo2573 agreed... Will put it in the pinned comment. This is an older video and all those shinanigans are relatively recent.
I live in the U.K. I bought the 11in1 as I live alone. We have an energy crisis here hence my purchase as it’s too expensive to run the main now. So far I’m absolutely in love with this, I never considered the other one with 2 lids that meant finding storage for the second lid. And the steam air fry function on the 11in1 is amazing. Pressure cooked gammon joint is another great option too. All under one lid.
I love it too.... It makes a lot of stuff soooo easy. I was able to eliminate my crock pot, too.
We are in the UK too and just bought the 11in1; did yours include the thermometer? I was disappointed that ours didn't.
I know this is an older review but I'm faced with this dilemma trying to consolidate some appliances. The smart lid concern is that we use our air fryer sometimes multiple times daily. While I like the access to clean the smart lid, I don't really want to have to do it to the extent that you did - yours is spotless! I'm thinking that if I miss something with the clean up on the smart lid, whatever I missed ends up dripping into my next pressure cooked meal? Of course reading comments below, the fact that the smart lid cleans itself is its own bonus.... Geez! What to do...what to do...lol. Thank you for the super comprehensive review video!
Thanks! I wouldn't worry about the smart lid dripping stuff into new cooks too much. That heating element burns a lot of that off. If you're doing mostly air frys probably you won't get TOO much up in there. Man.. If they designed it with a removable coil, that would. Hav made it so much easier.
. Good point Joe.
Watch The Salted Pepper's comparison demo of the p4essure cookers. She demos how to do first time pressure cooker to clean it. It's super easy, and I donit at least once a week while I'm doing after-dinner clean-up. The smart lid models are well worth it imho
I have the 8qt wi5h smart lid and I love it! It is my main cooking appliance now, with using the stove top on occasion.
Great video! 👏🏾 The 13-in-1 and 14-in-1 Ninja Food Smart Lid Pressure Cooker is on sale on Amazon, Walmart, and eBay at the moment. I still have an old Crockpot slow cooker and was researching all the hype about air fryers and pressure cookers. Your video helped me in the decision making progress tremendously.
Thank you 👍🏾
You got it! My wife was addicted to her slow cooker also...until she saw that these can slow cook just as well, too.
All the extra functions of the newer machine can also be done on the older model. The function settings are just setting, temp and time, which can be manually set.
Yep... Just takes a little bit of tinkering is all. Thanks for the insight!
@@JoesPhenomenal Yes, can be done 👍
I've had mine for a few months though, can confirm the lid stays way cleaner than my old Foodi. That thing was impossible to clean the grill. It basically self cleans when you steam fry. You definitely need to keep an eye on the gasket ring collecting stuff, but that's the same as the old one.
Good to know! Yeah.. when I made my cleaning video for the smart lid version, there wasn't really a whole lot to actually clean up in there. Was pleasantly surprised.
Thanks Joe. I guess I will go buy a smart for me and my mom now. I appreciate it.
Glad to help
Right to the point. Very informative and no kids in the background haha!
LOL.... but there are loud cats, dogs, and crickets making all sorts of noise.... I gotta time my words sometimes so I can edit it all out. haha.
Thank you for this comparison. I have the old machine. I’m a little disappointed that it doesn’t have the slow cook mode but then I have a crock pot anyway so no big deal. I have a 3 quart Instant Pot that does have the slow cook mode. I found I need to put it on high when doing the slow cook mode as suggested on another video. It’s just me and my husband so we rarely need a large slow cooker.
This was helpful in that I don’t have any question whether I need to upgrade or not. I’m going to keep my machine. It’s ain’t broke so I ain’t “fixing it”. Thanks again !
I have the old version (9 in one) and it definitely has a slow cook function. It is the same button as the “yoghurt button”
@@IdaHorner Thank you for that. I tried it I THOUGHT and it went to a high heat. I’ll need to read up on it or of course, maybe a TH-cam ! Thanks again !
It's not really all that different anyway. A couple of extra features and the single lid. If I wasn't running a TH-cam Channel and needed it for content, I likely wouldn't have spent the extra money, myself. I do like it a lot though..... like the old one!
There ya go... There's almost always some sort of work around. Thanks!
All these different names and model numbers for the Ninja Foodies confuse people. Thank you for the review.
Marvid, they do! Way too many models... I have to look this stuff up constantly to keep it straight.. Also depending on the retailer, they offer slightly different models and numbers for "exclusive" bundles and things like that....
It seems like it takes longer to pressurize due to the extra volume in the smart lid. The lid is simply higher up from the pot and; therefore, takes longer to pressurize the chamber.
That's what I was thinking as well.
Great comparison! So, going by what you’ve shown, Ninja hasn’t made the smart lid foodie better than the pro model but just different with a couple of extra functions.
Yeah. It's a little better, and that smart lid is cool, since I kinda hated flipping open the lid on the other one and clamping on the pressure cooker lid (the outer lid isn't removable so it just dangles there when pressure cooking), but functionally it's about the same.
Hey Joe! I decided to go for the smart lid one 8 Qt, and just purchased one on QVC! It just having one lid is what got me! Can’t wait for it to arrive! Your demo video is awesome!
My justification for the upgrade is that I already have one like the old model in 5 Qt, its awesome and I love it, but need an 8qt, and don’t really want that two lid storage problem.
@@HappyBeeTV-BeeHappy nice! Glad you liked it! I thought about doing the 8qt too, but I have such a space problem that I needed to save every inch... Probably should have just got that one, myself... It can do 3 layered cooking too.... Pretty sweet.
This video deserves many likes. Great explanation.
Glad you liked it!
Really informative review, thank you!
My pleasure!
So, I watched both videos... but no mention of which one is easier to clean?
I mean the ones one the pro look easier to clean since the new one has an exposed heating element.. but you'd need to clean 2 lids some of the time & like you said the new one has a better drip cannal going to the drip tray.
Heya, Twenty... Actually working on a cleaning video for this.... They're both a little bit of a pain in the neck, to be honest. The pro hides the heating element a litle better, but you have to remove a bunch of screws to clean back behind the the plate, The smart lid version doesn't have that plate, but like you said, everything is exposed more. For me It's still easier on the smart lid one, since I didn't have to break out a toolbox to get into where I wanted to. For the most part, they stay pretty surprisingly clean if you are wiping down after each use, for if your using it often, I'd still do a better cleaning every few weeks... will work on getting that video out.
Thanks, great review. Have you tried the Instant Duo Crisp with Ultimate lid? It would be great to compare them, including the size. Thanks!
Not yet! Will have to look into that!
hey Joe, are the non stickie layers of both pans P F O A FREE? Orcan you tell me what matherials are the non stickielayers made of?
Here is the information I got from Ninja Kitchen: ceramic-coated pot: Nonstick, PTFE/PFOA free, and easy to hand-wash. XL 5-qt. Cook & Crisp™ Basket: Large-capacity, ceramic-coated, PTFE/PFOA-free nonstick basket is dishwasher safe and holds up to a 7-lb. Hope that helps.
Hi! Great content! I am your New subscriber 😊
Thank you! Much appreciated!
hi Joeboth, are the non stickie layers of both pans P F O A FREE? Or what matherials are the non stickielayers made of?
Will have to find out... The Ninja nonstick pans are PFOA free though... So, hopefully.
Finally a more haunted video, I can read the features, modes and appreciate what it looks like on Amazon. So many videos simply outline this for 10 mins which makes the review redundant imho. Thank you for going into more detail and showing the differences using food.
One minor point is that it would of been nice if you went into a little more detail about the main modes, ie broiling vs air frying a joint or wings
Otherwise great video
Thanks, Johnny. Great ideas there! Will have to incorporate mor eof that type of stuff!
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Meant nuanced and not haunted 😂
Lol... I figured that out.... At first I thought you were commenting on my Halloween stuff. Haha!
I just found the older one at Walmart for new $130 tax included I have the original first one and use it almost every day it’s around 3 years old and still going strong,just wanted an additional one at a discount price.Apparently they are discounting/clearance them
That's a steal! Yeah... They put new models out so often, that you can find deals on the older ones all the time... and they're great machines, too!
what is the size of your smart lid? also is that the 15-in-1 or 14-in-1
Mine is the 6.5qt 14-in-1 version.
Nice video! Yea my ninja xl grill sounds louder than both, i just dont like the pitch is higher in the one lid haha.
Yeah.. I think the fan is spinning faster.. I got used to it, but it was definitely surprising when I heard it at first.
I went with the smart lid after watching this review and reading the comments . Thank you Mine hit me for $128
You're welcome! That's a good price, too.
wow great deal was it on promotion? quite expensive right now at 250 Usd
Thank your for your test and advice !
You're welcome.
Thanks for the review. On my old ninja the heating element and fan get dirty after air frying a lot. I wonder if on the new one the same happens, and if that dirt mixes up with food being cooked with pressure since the lid is the same.
Can you share your thoughts on that?
Thank you
Mine has stayed pretty clean... It doesn't have the guard down below the heating element, so it's a lot easier to get up in there for cleaning, though. You can also run steam cycles on it with some water, lemon juice, and detergent, and that can do a pretty great job, also. I do have a video on here someplace about cleaning that machine also that might be helpful, also.
Whooshy.... 🤣 I do understand though! Thanks fir the info. I have the pro but tired of switching lids.
Lol.... I like to get super-techy. Haha. Yeah, I like not having to find a place to store the pressure lid.
Amazing review!! thank you!!
You betcha. Thanks for checking it out!
Hi what do you think about 15 in 1 OL 750? Which one is better to get ? Thank you
Well the 750 is bigger, it has the thermometer, and also has the fry basket, so I'd say it's a win, as long as you have the counter space for it.
@@JoesPhenomenal thank you for your replay . I really like your review video. I checked again on ninja Website all the foodi seems same width and high...
Hi, Monisha! I checked on those dimensions and it appears that the 6.5 qt models are about 16x14x13 and the 8 qt. Version is 16x15x14.... So a little bigger, but not by as much as I thought... And I was rounding a little too!
Hello @@JoesPhenomenal thank you for your replay. Which one is the newest model?
@@JoesPhenomenal I just wonder which one is better ninja foodi or instant pot ?
How about cleaning behind the grill element? Will it be easier with the smart lid?
Yes... The smart lid verso doesn't have that grill z so it's easier to get behind it... Still not super fun though.
Sorry @@JoesPhenomenal, wrong terminology...the crisp element.
How do you clean behind it? The only reason I haven't bought a Ninja is the fact I cant imagine getting it clean...could you advice from your experience?
Thanks Joe. Great comparison I know which one I’m getting. 😊 one lid sounds better for me.
Thanks, Christina! Glad I could help!
Hi how much decibels is the sound in the smart lid please ?
Heya... Depends on the function. The loudest is the air fry function and that gets up to about 78 decibels due to the fan noise. It loud, but for me, it's not horrible.
Whoa that’s weird. My smartlid is touch screen. How come yours has buttons? But yeah, i use my smart lid mainly for pressure cooking and that bad boy takes forever. I have had to restart in because i wasn’t sure if it was working or not. Great machine though. My buddy gifted it to me for Christmas.
They change the design on those constantly. Might have to get one of the touch ones. The pressure cooking is weird if you've never done it before... Had to build all that pressure up before it does anything. If you use the low setting it's way faster though. I've gotten used to waiting on it a little.
hi joe are the non stickie layers of the pans PFOA FREE?
I think they are. Will have to double check, but I know their nonstick pans are, so you'd think they would use the same materials.
No mention of the included thermometer with the smart lid version, that for me was a great addition, i am giving the older unit, which is still a great bit of kit to my dsaughter.
Heya Paul! Ours didn't have the thermometer feature. At the time, I think only the 8qt version had that. Definitely would love to take advantage of that though.
We are in the UK & just purchased the 11-in-1 SmartLid version expecting a thermometer but one wasn't included......
Can you make rice with these the same as in a rice cooker?
Yep... Sure can.. I still like using my rice cooker more, but you can do it in the Ninja Foodi no problem if you don't have one available.
@@JoesPhenomenal Thank you. I purchased the newer version. Excited to see how it works.
Cool! Let me k ow how ya like it!
Does the smart one not come with an internal temperature probe that you insert into the meat. I thought you would show that.
@@LeonardoSummers they made a few different versions of the smartlid one. Mine didn't have the probe on it. Would have been a nice feature to have though.
Is the inner pot for the new upgraded version ceramic non-stick BPA/BPE free?
The ceramic-coated nonstick inner pot is PTFE- and PFOA-free. Just checked with Ninja on it to be sure.
@@JoesPhenomenal Awesome! Thanks for the info.
You got it!
Which is easier to clean?
The smart lid one is a little easier. The coils are still in the way, but at least you don't have to deal with the grate.
can we utilise the thermometer in baking bread?
Should be able to. My version doesn't have the thermometer though... bummer.
Check the power consumption. If they are not rated the same, then the Smartlid will take longer.
Heya! Thanks for the tip. Thought about that one at first, and according to the manuals, the power ratings are identical. After a while I did notice the the rubber seal inside of the smartlid was a tiny bis twisted, so I removed it and cleaned everything up really good and re-installed it, and it seems to be better than it was... so I'm thinking maybe the seal was leaking a little due to that under lower pressure.
Loved this! Thank you!
You're welcome, Jamie!
What if I want to cook several sorts..like rice and mest.. I have to cook rice first..then meat ? I mean I cannot cook together but separately inside the mashine??
You can use the rack to layer stuff if you like, or you can cook stuff together. It still works out. If you're using dry rice, I would still try to layer it though, since you don't want to end up adding or losing water that might absorb into other stuff..... You could end up with hard or overcooked rice that way.
Which one is easier to wash? Please
It depends what you primarily cook. If your main use for the machine is pressure cooking, thne the old machine is easier, since the pressure cooking lid is separate and doesn't have anything hanging off it. For pretty much everything else, the smart lid version is better, because the main lid of the old machine has that big grate on it covering everything up that is hard to clean behind.
@@JoesPhenomenal thanks a mill!
@@padtag1742 any time
Thanks for the info. 😁
Does the old version, with that protector get dirty on heating elements? Is it good protection?
Yeah.. It still gets dirty up in there... It's harder to clean because of the guard also. That can be removed if you have some of the security hex bits though. I suppose it's good protection, but I've never had mine full enough to where there was anything sitting up high enough to need that.
@@JoesPhenomenal yeah, because I'm thinking old one is better. It will last longer. It's never a good idea to mix heating elements and high pressure water. And one thing goes wrong on this thing, everything is junk.
@nebojsa1976 very true! Ours has done really well so far though, so that's been a nice surprise. No pressure leak or anything.
very informative and to the point!
Glad it was helpful!
Hello does the ol750 model have delayed cooking and if it's yes how we can use it ? Thanks
I don't think it had a delayed start timer on it. I will have to take a look and get back to you on that one.
@@JoesPhenomenal I appreciate my brother
Informational video. I did not know all it can do.
I want to pressure cook some beans
It does beans really well... makes really nice chili too.
I got the smart lid version for $139.00 at Sams, I'm happy...
Wow... Good deal!
@@JoesPhenomenal I'm reading the manual here... it talks about a cook and crisp basket. There is no basket ..there is a second smaller black pan, a rack and a crisp plate I guess. I don't see a basket.
The basket is an option you can buy from the website. It works like the flat Crisping plate that you have, except it's a basket and has a coupple of little handles on it.
@@JoesPhenomenal Oh, so the website just assumes I bought the crisping basket already. I'm trying to cook the chicken on the provided rack. OMG the fan is annoyingly LOUD. I am in my bedroom and I can hear it spinning from the kitchen... dam ... that is loud!! Is that normal??? I have to listen to this for 50 minutes..lol... I might take it back.
Yep... It's pretty loud whne you're running the air fry on it. Luckily noise has never really bothered me that much so I can block it out a bit.. Unless it's a crying baby in a plane. Haha
Thanks for another great video. The music is so distracting tho 😢
Sorry about that... I have a few videos like that when I was still figuring a lot of stuff out, unfortunately.
I have the one with the smart lid, and am soo sorry I bought it !!! Pressure cooking is great, but, air frying is awful, it is soo loud and noisy that I have to wear headphones while cooking !!! Next time I will buy the one with the 2 lids, cannot believe the company would actually sell something so loud and annoying !!!
Yeah... It's exemely loud. Might be part of the reason Ninja doesn't do Pressure cookers anymore. I have a Chef IQ one that I'm working on a review for that's really great, however, it doesn't do air frys.
Can you make pizza ,curry and stews in the one lid one I’m between this and the crock pot ninja
Yes. I use the slow cooker function on it all the time. Haven't brought out the crock pot since.
Also i dont remember but didnt you sell gourmet dressings of the sort? How do i find out more about that.
I do.. we have 4 different dressings.. all super low calorie with zero preservatives.. I have some videos about them on the channel but they are super old.. Ironically, I happen to be re recording those today.. haha. If you look at our videos page, they are all the way at the bottom... with all the other horribly recorded stuff. We have info about them on our website also at: www.joesphenomenal.com
Do the Ninja Speedi Rapid Cooker review please!
Yeah... I need to get one of those and do that. Been wanting to.
at the pressure function the legt model when does it show the time. mine is just showing pres....
Heya AK... Most of your comment got cut off there, so I can't really see the whole thing.... If I remember right, they both should give you a countdown timer for pressure cooking.
Can you make bread in the new smart lid version?
Yep. You can do the proofing in there too. It doesn't make the largest loafs though.
How are these compared to Instapot?
Verey similar. Instapot machines are nice too. The Ninjas might have a few more functions though.
Hi, I purchased this a few months ago mainly for the pressure cooking setting. I tried the pressure setting a few times and always gets the "no pressure" message. I add more liquid, and it still happens. So freaking frustrating!! I bought this to speed up the process and end up spending much more time trying over and over and end up cooking on the stove top. I'm about to throw this shit away. Why do you think this keeps happening. I usually have let's say: 1/4 to 1/3 with solids (meat, chicken, rice etc) the the rest liquid. Never more than 1/ 2 to 2/3 full total.. I'm I doing something wrong or is my machine defective. Or am I just stupid?
I have the newer version BTW
Hmm... Let's see if we can trouble shoot this..... as far as I know, there are 3 things that can give you the no pressure error (other than the thing just being busted). First, it could be not enough water in there. Looks like you got that one covered though. Second, check the big rubber seal in the lid and make sure it's freely moving and not getting pinched or squished anywhere. Third, check the pressure valve on the top and make sure it isn't set to open..... I do this one ALL THE DANG TIME. I flip it to release pressure, and always forget to put it back for the next time...hopefully, it's one of those for you.
@JoesPhenomenal thanks. I'll recheck when I get home. I used it last night. First, I made beef Stew with the liquids needed, and it pressurized perfectly for 12 minutes. I released the pressure.. perfect. Then, I went to add rice and pressure for another 10 min or so, and that's when the message kept appearing. It looked to have more than enough liquid. But u went on and added another cup of water And still, the same error. That's what keeps happening to me. I ending up cooking the rice in there on the steam mode and luckily it worked. But idk why this happens. All in all, the pot was about halfway full. I understand it there was just too much stuff and it doesn't have space to pressure but I doubt that was it. Very frustrating as that function was the reason why I bought the damn thing. Lol. I will check the seal, but I doubt it because it did the beef just fine. It happened once I added the rice. I'm gonna have to contact customer service.. thanks again brother. Keep up the great content!!
Does the smart lid version have the removable black basket?
This one comes with the crisping plate instead of the basket. Been thinking about ordering the basket though.
@@JoesPhenomenal is there a basket available for the 6.5 quart? I’m debating between the 6.5 and the 8 specifically because of the basket.
How many watts does it use kooking rise???
Both versions of this 6.5qt size should be 1460w.. I think the larger ones get up to 1700-1800w.
At the end of a program (air fryer in this case) what happens on yours?
I tried to do crispy chicken in two batches, the the first lot finished I couldn't find a way back to the menu so I could start it again. The only way out I found was to power off and on again.
(this is my first day with the Ninja, but with only a Start/stop button and a menu selector wheel, I can't see what else I could be missing).
Hmm.. Which model do you have? On the ones with the smart lid, when the air fry finishes, it blinks a message about being done a few times, and then goes back to the menu. If you open it up before it gets done, then you have to hit the stop button to get it to do the same thing. It takes a few seconds though. Do you have the older version with the 2 different lids?
@@JoesPhenomenal It is the smart lid version. I will try again today and see if I leave it longer it goes to the menu.
@@rassman48 ok, cool. Mine takes like 5 or 6 seconds.
I like the 1 lid if it is good.
Yeah... I like the smart lid too.
@@JoesPhenomenal it’s on sale for $279. I have one that was just over $100 at Wally World. Is there a $150 difference?
I wonder if I'm the only one who sees a problem in this second generation multicooker? If in the old one the grill is not used in the main modes, then in the new one, even if you cook soup, you pollute the grill very much !!!!! The old one has a second lid for cooking, but the new one has one for everything! I think this is an epically stupid technical solution.
You know.. It's funny that you say that. That's kind of what I thought it was going to be like before picking up the second Gen machine. In my personal experience (and that can really vary depending on the person), I haven't had any issues with the inside of the lid getting all gross. Used it pretty extensively too.... Really all they did was add the pressure plates into the regular lid so it can pressure seal. Other than that it's really pretty similar. The grate not being there hasn't seemed to make a ton of difference for me...one thing that bugs me about it is that fact if you rely on it too much, and it breaks or something, then you effectively lose most of your cooking functions...i suppose you could day that about a lot of machines though.
Youre no SHMOE, Joe, we like your show! Your Shaina Punim is AGLOW! ~
Lol.... That's awesome.
What’s the difference in 13 in 1 and 14 in 1
The 14 in 1 has a proof function.
We are in the UK and just received a Ninja Foodi max 11-in-1 multi-cooker and wonder how the time & temp compares with our oven. For example, we are fans of frozen Thai Prawn Fishcakes which Waitrose recommends are cooked at 200 C deg (fan) for 30mins which seems to be on the high side for similar recipes suggested for Air frying in Ninja cookbooks? Any thoughts?
Sure... keep in mind that it's a much smaller area to heat, so it will take less time to get it up to temperature, and also will maintain that temp better... not to mention that the functions that use the fan will benefit from less distance that the air has to move. The time and temp differences will vary according to what you're putting in there, so you might have to experiment a little, but a good starting point for me was knocking time and temp down about 10% and moving around from there... it to be easier, you can just use the same temp, but cut down the time a little more.... That second one is what I nomally do... then you only have to worry about messing with one setting.
Thanks you very much for your explanation I really enjoyed it
You are welcome!
MAN I GOT A NINJA 5 YEARS AGO, I HAVE NOT USED MY STOVE OR OVEN IN 5 YEARS
Yeah, those things are super convenient. I use the slow cook on it a few times a week.
THANK YOU
You're welcome!
Like the music. Too loud. Bump it down a touch. lol
Gotcha! Thanks Larry!
Can it make Coffee? ☕
Good question... probably not. might be tough to get that thing to make it anywhere near as good as even the cheapest hotel coffee maker...
How can I clean the element on the smart lid plz
Hi, Mandy. I did this video a while back showing how to clean that whole machine... Here goes the link! th-cam.com/video/Y7lksA_17Ao/w-d-xo.html
Oh, the noise is a downer
It is.... I don't really notice it that much anymore though. I think my brain just blocks it out. lol
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that smart lid sounds terrible put that thing in the basement
It's pretty loud.... Certainly can be annoying. The main lid on the Pro is pretty close, volume-wise. Noise has always been a weird issue with Ninja products.... Mostly that noise it coming from the fan blade design. Computers used to have the same issue with those whiney cpu fans also. Really wish they would get some better control over that.
Clvp en frencee
Ughhh that ugly slider is soooo not long nails friendly… puts me off to pay $349 to break my nails… as you know good manicure is average $90. Why they didn’t put nice circular turn knob instead of slider like they got on the bottom
I think the mechanical spider might have had something to do with the pressure cooking feature... Of the ones I've seen, I don't really call any pressure lids using an electric motors to seal that on... They've all been mechanical with some sort of lever... Maybe it needs to be that way do to safety? I dunno.
Poor you 😭 life is so unfair 😢
Vanity over convenience 😅😂
Why don't you just pinch it between your knuckles?
I don't do long nails anyway, so I don't have that problem.manicured nails always made so many every day hands-on tasks way more awkward than they need to ge....just mho
What about the built in thermometer version?
I didn't have that one available at the time. When I did this video the thermometer version only came in the 8qt size... Nit sure if it's made its way to the 6.5 yet or not off the top of my head, but if it's available in that size, it's a definite go-to feature. I usually steer towards the smaller machines due to super limited counter space.
I love my Ninja and with my new 15 in 1 version I have many more ways to burn myself
At least 15 more ways? Haha!
Well, that ridiculous noise might be enough to skip buying one of these. Guess that saves me $130!
Yeah.... That whine can be annoying. It's mostly evident when air frying. It doesn't bother me too much, but I can definitely see how it can with a lot of people.