That's one of the most beautiful explanations i've ever heard, of who GOD is, and of Christ, his beloved son, the Messiah. Born and brought up as an Orthodox Christian, and now a staunch Unitarian, I think this is a very logical definition of my faith. One of many🙂🙂
Well said Dr. Tuggy. Until just a few months ago, I used to be a Trinitarian who believed that people who said Jesus is not God were HERETICS and antichrists! I PERSECUTED THEM! Hated them. I was blind like Saul of Tarsus, but God opened my eyes to the truth, and, like Paul, I was humbled. I love the new understanding He has given me because I actually get to believe the WORDS of Jesus Christ and take what He said at face value! As a Trinitarian, everything that Jesus said had to be translated through the Doctrine I was taught in churches. Almost nothing Jesus said could be taken at face value. For example: Mark 10:18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good-except God alone." As a Trinitarian, I was taught to believe that Jesus was really saying: *wink wink* "You callled me good because I am God" 😉 What kind of a deceptive Jesus would say this?!? Not the Son of God who ONLY SPEAKS TRUTH!
@MarvelNot Yes, there was a catalyst for the revelation of truth I received. Common Sense Christianity did a video on my testimony last week if you're interested. th-cam.com/users/livebzLGdwW5c_c?si=pc9i4dQkl2jZ-2hP
That's a great teaching Dale. God bless you for these short messages. They are very encouraging. Also I would like to know about the virgin birth.... What is UCA stand on this.
There are unitarians that hold to the virgin birth, and also some unitarians that don’t. The UCA doesn’t have a position, but Dr. Tuggy holds to the virgin birth personally.
Is Jesus, the author of life, as it described in that earliest recorded Christian sermon in acts and what does that mean in this particular Unitarian view?
Everyone born of the spirit are partakers of the divine. Dual natures warring against each other. That's why we are called elohim. But only the Father is Elohim (big E). "Is it not said YE are elohim?". Unfortunately the Greek language has caused so much deception and it's translation into English. Jesus was born of the same spirit we are that raises us from spiritual death to new life. Romans 1:3-4, Romans 8:11. He is our brother not our God. He is not our savior or redeemer. Isaiah 43:11, 45:5-7. We are anointed with the same logos and spirit he was. This making us also firstborn of the Father. The same light that dwelled in him dwells in us. This why YHWH is called the Fathers of lights. We too are his literal Sons. Rev. 21:7. Begotten of the same incorruptible seed. I Peter 1:3, 1:23, James 1:18. We are of the ONE SEED of David. Jer. 33:22, Psalm 18:50. The Son of God is not one person Ex 4:22, Hosea 11:1 just like the virgin Bride is not one person. Noted as HIM thruout Scripture. My servant (singular) my witnesses (plural). The very elect. And my SONS will marry you. All creation yearns for the REVEALING of the SONS of God.
Very Good and pedagogical explaination! Have you had the chance to study any of the works of the German Inarah School? Trinitarians like Jay Smith and Mel from Islamic origins are enthusiastically consuming the materials from the Inarah school while you unitarians seem to be passive and not intrested.
Since we want to put earthly limitatio 3:47 ns on God. By that logic it takes chromosomes from male and female to make a human. Yeshua could have only had one side. That by your reasoning would not make Him human.
We don’t get information in the Bible about how God performed that miracle, but why wouldn’t God be able to create the male side? For the record, most of the “limitations” mentioned above are agreed upon by trinitarian scholars too. It’s no criticism of God to say he can’t create a square circle, because it’s a logical contradiction.
@@UnitarianChristianAllianceIt does follow that "only" God is to receive prayer. latreuō is due unto God "alone" (Luke 4:8). One of the ways latreuō can be rendered is by means of "prayer" (Luke 2:37). Since the Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer demonstrates He is the proper recipient of latreuō.
@@kardiognostesministries8150in the passage you mentioned, Luke 2:37, the Greek word latreou is translated as “serving,” not praying. The Greek word for praying (or in this passage, prayers) is deesis. Luke 2:37 says nothing about Jesus being the recipient of deesis. Jesus tells us in Matthew 4 that you should serve (latreou) only the Lord God. The Lord God, in the NT, is the Father alone. Today, we have no temple, therefore we have no ritualistic temple service that we can provide to the Father. We have prayer, though, and we pray to the Father in the name (aka, through the authority/mediation) of Jesus Christ.
@@schappellshowI never asserted the Greek word latreuō is translated as "praying." One of the ways of rendering latreuō is by prayer. When Jesus affirms to only render latreuō unto the Lord God demonstrates Jesus is the Lord God in that He is the proper recipient of prayer - and if one prays then he/she is rendering latreuō.
A prayer is a humble request to someone in authority. When someone goes to court and asks for a ruling on some issue, that is called a prayer. When someone goes to a ruler of a nation, and requests some favour or assistance, that is called a prayer. Jesus has been made Lord (Acts 2:36), of heaven and earth (Matthew 28:18). That means that He is in a unique position to hear and grant almost any requests made of Him, based on the authority and power that has been given to Him. And not only that, but since He is effectively sitting on God's throne with God (Revelation 3:21), He can even attend personally to requests made of God Himself on God's behalf. He has that right because God has given it to Him. And in case you think that sitting with God on His throne means that one is literally God Himself, consider that in Revelation 3:21, Christ promises to grant those who overcome to sit with Him (Christ) on His throne. And since Christ Himself is sitting on God's throne, I'm sure you can work out the implications of what it means to sit with Christ on His throne for yourself.
That's one of the most beautiful explanations i've ever heard, of who GOD is, and of Christ, his beloved son, the Messiah. Born and brought up as an Orthodox Christian, and now a staunch Unitarian, I think this is a very logical definition of my faith. One of many🙂🙂
Well said Dr. Tuggy.
Until just a few months ago, I used to be a Trinitarian who believed that people who said Jesus is not God were HERETICS and antichrists!
I PERSECUTED THEM! Hated them.
I was blind like Saul of Tarsus,
but God opened my eyes to the truth, and, like Paul, I was humbled.
I love the new understanding He has given me because I actually get to believe the WORDS of Jesus Christ and take what He said at face value!
As a Trinitarian, everything that Jesus said had to be translated through the Doctrine I was taught in churches. Almost nothing Jesus said could be taken at face value.
For example:
Mark 10:18 “Why do you call me good?” Jesus answered. “No one is good-except God alone."
As a Trinitarian, I was taught to believe that Jesus was really saying:
*wink wink* "You callled me good because I am God" 😉
What kind of a deceptive Jesus would say this?!?
Not the Son of God who ONLY SPEAKS TRUTH!
Trinitarians are really sick and deceived. Some just promote it for their jobs even though they know it's wrong.
welcome bro. Ive been 6 years the same.
Thanks for sharing, Caleb. Great story. My situation was similar.
That's awesome to hear. Was there any one thing, in particular, that made you begin to question your old way of thinking?
@MarvelNot
Yes, there was a catalyst for the revelation of truth I received.
Common Sense Christianity did a video on my testimony last week if you're interested.
th-cam.com/users/livebzLGdwW5c_c?si=pc9i4dQkl2jZ-2hP
This is so succinct, respectful, and clear!
Wow, great elaboration as to why Jesus isn't a type of "Godman". And you did it all in under 3:30 minutes!
So much grace in your voice and makes sense God bless you
Amen
That's a great teaching Dale. God bless you for these short messages. They are very encouraging. Also I would like to know about the virgin birth.... What is UCA stand on this.
Can you help me with some material either video or pdf file to understand
There are unitarians that hold to the virgin birth, and also some unitarians that don’t. The UCA doesn’t have a position, but Dr. Tuggy holds to the virgin birth personally.
Is Jesus, the author of life, as it described in that earliest recorded Christian sermon in acts and what does that mean in this particular Unitarian view?
Everyone born of the spirit are partakers of the divine. Dual natures warring against each other. That's why we are called elohim. But only the Father is Elohim (big E).
"Is it not said YE are elohim?". Unfortunately the Greek language has caused so much deception and it's translation into English.
Jesus was born of the same spirit we are that raises us from spiritual death to new life. Romans 1:3-4, Romans 8:11. He is our brother not our God. He is not our savior or redeemer. Isaiah 43:11, 45:5-7. We are anointed with the same logos and spirit he was. This making us also firstborn of the Father. The same light that dwelled in him dwells in us. This why YHWH is called the Fathers of lights. We too are his literal Sons. Rev. 21:7. Begotten of the same incorruptible seed. I Peter 1:3, 1:23, James 1:18. We are of the ONE SEED of David. Jer. 33:22, Psalm 18:50. The Son of God is not one person Ex 4:22, Hosea 11:1 just like the virgin Bride is not one person. Noted as HIM thruout Scripture. My servant (singular) my witnesses (plural). The very elect. And my SONS will marry you.
All creation yearns for the REVEALING of the SONS of God.
Very Good and pedagogical explaination! Have you had the chance to study any of the works of the German Inarah School?
Trinitarians like Jay Smith and Mel from Islamic origins are enthusiastically consuming the materials from the Inarah school while you unitarians seem to be passive and not intrested.
Since we want to put earthly limitatio 3:47 ns on God. By that logic it takes chromosomes from male and female to make a human. Yeshua could have only had one side. That by your reasoning would not make Him human.
We don’t get information in the Bible about how God performed that miracle, but why wouldn’t God be able to create the male side?
For the record, most of the “limitations” mentioned above are agreed upon by trinitarian scholars too. It’s no criticism of God to say he can’t create a square circle, because it’s a logical contradiction.
i guess you would deny that God had anything to do with making Adam as well then. As it was just mud and dirt.
Is it not idolatry to worship a created object or individual?
@@anthonybishop2675 not if that ambassador is sent, fully representing the sender.
Grab a dictionary and look up "plenipotentiary"
@@anthonybishop2675
not if the representative was fully authorized to say and receive as if the sender was present.
If this Godman is the proper recipient of prayer then this would prove His claim that He is God.
It doesn’t follow that only God could receive prayer. But, many unitarians don’t pray to Jesus anyway, only to God in Jesus’ name.
@@UnitarianChristianAllianceIt does follow that "only" God is to receive prayer. latreuō is due unto God "alone" (Luke 4:8). One of the ways latreuō can be rendered is by means of "prayer" (Luke 2:37).
Since the Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer demonstrates He is the proper recipient of latreuō.
@@kardiognostesministries8150in the passage you mentioned, Luke 2:37, the Greek word latreou is translated as “serving,” not praying. The Greek word for praying (or in this passage, prayers) is deesis. Luke 2:37 says nothing about Jesus being the recipient of deesis.
Jesus tells us in Matthew 4 that you should serve (latreou) only the Lord God. The Lord God, in the NT, is the Father alone. Today, we have no temple, therefore we have no ritualistic temple service that we can provide to the Father. We have prayer, though, and we pray to the Father in the name (aka, through the authority/mediation) of Jesus Christ.
@@schappellshowI never asserted the Greek word latreuō is translated as "praying." One of the ways of rendering latreuō is by prayer.
When Jesus affirms to only render latreuō unto the Lord God demonstrates Jesus is the Lord God in that He is the proper recipient of prayer - and if one prays then he/she is rendering latreuō.
A prayer is a humble request to someone in authority. When someone goes to court and asks for a ruling on some issue, that is called a prayer. When someone goes to a ruler of a nation, and requests some favour or assistance, that is called a prayer.
Jesus has been made Lord (Acts 2:36), of heaven and earth (Matthew 28:18). That means that He is in a unique position to hear and grant almost any requests made of Him, based on the authority and power that has been given to Him.
And not only that, but since He is effectively sitting on God's throne with God (Revelation 3:21), He can even attend personally to requests made of God Himself on God's behalf. He has that right because God has given it to Him.
And in case you think that sitting with God on His throne means that one is literally God Himself, consider that in Revelation 3:21, Christ promises to grant those who overcome to sit with Him (Christ) on His throne. And since Christ Himself is sitting on God's throne, I'm sure you can work out the implications of what it means to sit with Christ on His throne for yourself.