In my early career after graduating, I was the only one who knocks off on time. >90% chose to work overtime. I didn't care about what people think of me, neither do I play office politics. I just delivered results and focused on productivity.
@@abhaysahu3520 Retirement is a fallacy for most pple. Enjoy for 1-3 years max. Then there is huge loss in sense of purpose. I was most unhappy when I had most and was surprised with this revelation. This taught me to invest in more impt things for eternity - religion, relationships, continue to enjoy working, picking up new hobbies.
He did not talk about doing smart work in place of putting hard efforts. He just explain the mentality of people seeing hard efforts as success rather than their results., perception of things can change the world
For me, this subject is central to creating an automated future society. It's amazing how many people can't see beyond a world where we work, and define ourselves by our job. Sooner or later we'll have to let go of the concept of working for a living and let the technology take over, at which point we can let our interests and hobbies define us, as hard as that might be for some people.
Not really going to happen. AI can replace some mundane tasks, but it us terrible with nuance and actual people skills. Not going to an AI doc or therapist or call a robocop.
I would die rather than be paid by the government without providing enough value for society and solving real problems through my effort being like a parasite.
My father worked hard in his mission. My mother work hard in her mission. Then I started working hard on everything. In my world, Pain/labour = honesty, industry, contribution. I took this pain loving sensibilities into relationship, self-worth. I felt I am betraying my loved one when I don't work hard in various aspect of my existence. I reached to a point when I fell into deep sadness/lifelessness. I took refuse in nature. And when I did that my brother saw that as an escape. Then I realized my me and family thought that some kind of pain/effort is your real worth. It is not the way. It is most insincere and unkind to myself. Now I am able to see my beliefs in front of me and not be dragged by it. I feel alive. I feel light. I see what is in front of me. It shows me what can I do. I am allowing it to be done well. No rushing. Not attaching my self-esteem with what I am doing. I accept my spontaneity. Leave the rest.
Exactly. Modern workforce is time owed, which encourages lackluster productivity as well. Finishing work early (doing. A better job than expected), should be rewarded, but instead it is punished.
I worked at jpmorgan for several years and omg the wastage was insane, I’d say people spend a day, as in a whole day, doing about 90 minutes of work. Every single thing is drawn out so that the employees can go as slow as possible. I’m no slave driver, people should feel comfortable at work but I found it painfully boring as things moved too slowly even for me.
Respected Dr. Azim Sheriff, your talk finally gave me peace of mind at the realization of my hardworking ethics. I didn't know why I was so hard working. I'm almost close to retirement but never want to give up. Bless you for the timely appearance 🙏 in my life. I'm glad I am on the same BC soil.
I think only giving morality to the result or meaningfulness of the result, we then only would appreciate ppl who can give the best results. While economically speaking this is optimal, but socially speaking it lets those, who cannot produce extraordinary results, behind. I think both is important, good results and reasonable good effort.
Striking a balance between effort and results is important. The amount of effort is often related to the complexity of a challenge. And to show you can put the effort in and achieve a result demonstrates grit which is a highly desireable trait.
but if one has put in the effort outside of work - and get the SAME job done in half the time - do I "pretend" to put in effort now - when I did before - just to look good to a boss? I can do what I am good at so much faster and with no mistakes than others - and I am penalized if I have to work face to face or side by side with the others
He said, though, that this attitude exists in all societies, modern or not. The need to be useful to our community is very deeply ingrained in us. Living in a fully automated utopia would, I think, feel like a neverending childhood except I would be too old for that.
@@tommihorttana860 key-word: *think* No one knows what life in a society that doesn’t require labor thanks to modern tech would look like. Who says there wouldn’t still be things that need to get done? Who says there wouldn’t still be ways to be ‘useful?’ Who says we can’t just *be* ?
I'm an avid learner and I'm from Vietnam. I'm here to practice my English listening skills. I leave a comment so as to mark my progress. Thank you so much for this invaluable content! Lots of love from Vietnam.
This really got me! I've been working for some time now and something that has always bothered me is this extreme demand from some of my bosses of me and my coworkers to participate and engage in some social media/msg groups to show that we are actually "working" what led me to think, and by what he said, that what matters is to deliver some bullsh** job than to do some meaningful.
It's so obviously counter-productive to make You do social media as a sign you're doing work! It's so easy to type how hard one is working whether they are or not. And of course the ones spending more time typing about how hard they are working have less time to actually work, but they're seen as the most productive. It's a perfect example of exactly what the Professor said is using the wrong signal to demonstrate the expected goal.
Yeah im 30. Very good, very hard worker, very mindfull, always giving valuable feedback and suggestions of problem solving.l, im specialized in many spheres inside and outside the job. And i tried to prove myself that with hard work you can earn some better life. Guess what... I was wrong. Oh how much i was and ak wrong in that
Virtue has nothing to do with work ethic or the product of work volume/productivity. just because a Dr or RN works hard to save your life in the emergency room or ICU-because they are being compensated & expected to do so, doesn’t mean that they would walk across the street to feed or shelter you from starving or freezing to death. Many would just stare & step over you while telling themselves that someone else will save you. Maybe, if they felt generous, they might tell you to eat or get out of the cold. their incentive is $$$ not sparing life in such a case. The lines blurred to the onlookers. Where you intersected them would likely determine if you lived or died that day, not their virtues or a willingness to only “do good work”.
Why is feeding and housing losers in society moral? If you want to, please do so. But don't force others through government spending of our productive labor to bail out losers. Society only needs to losers as an example of who not to be.
I always thought that working hard is what will make me to succeed in life, but recently I started to think in another way. Now I think that working smart will make me succeed. This video convinced me that even more. Thank you.
I agree, we work to live... at least at *employment*. But if somebody does absolutely nothing, because they don't have to do anything, that's less appealing and valuable of a person than someone who doesn't have to do anything and chooses to garden, make crafts, build something, program, help people, emotionally support people, etc.
Employers don’t care about employees. I would be good letting the AI do the work while I get paid to enjoy other aspects of life. I definitely would not be “doing nothing”. Life is too short!
@@StarSystemAndromeda The assumption of "doing nothing" I had was passively consuming entertainment (eg wasting 5 years of my life watching youtube), or filling time with isolating non-selfgrowth participation activities (singleplayer/unsocial nonstory videogames, and 90rnogr@phy/m@s7urb@710n) Avoiding these things whether by work or by socializing, or by a hobby, or staying productive in some other way, or by indulging in something more creative seems like over a lifetime it would be a better outcome than I have chosen thusfar in my life.
More than that. A "job" does not define an individual. Any person can do any other job around given the training. And any other job may have elements that you can create more value in. The hard question is - where is the additional value needed enough to justify paying a living wage for a person.
The fact is that not everyone is going to launch a startup or create a revolutionary app or pioneer something. But we can all decide for ourselves the things that give meaning in our lives. Those things can be big or small. So by all means, work enough to pay the bills (and spend wisely). But also make time for doing what brings meaning to your life. These two don't always have to intersect though, and that's perfectly OK.
In career this might translate to “visibility” (to upper management). I think what happened is: 1. observers being detached from subjects (don’t really understand what happened), falls to generalization more effort is better. FIX: get better understanding from metrics like “Business Analytics” e.g. level of expertise for a given subject, processing time, quality of work. 2. Subjects expected to work as agreement as Scope Of Work (SoW) but in reality that SoW keeps shifting to the point of outside the expertise, depending on specific interpretation circumstances this results in wording: burnout, imposter syndrome, peter principle, etc. FIX: better effort on SoW communication alignment, don’t stop at blanket statements but drill down to specific points.
This lecture explores the concept of the moralization of effort, which is to consider hard work as a moral virtue regardless of the results obtained. Studies show that people perceive those who put in more effort to be more trustworthy, moral, and cooperative, even if their efforts don't provide additional value. However, this moralization of effort can have problematic consequences when applied at the scale of society, creating a work culture where activity is privileged to the detriment of real productivity. The speaker emphasizes the need to focus more on producing meaningful results rather than just valuing the appearance of hard work.
On the one hand, in school and at uni, it was validated to be able to do your homework faster than other people, to be smart without effort. As a kid, we used to go to a ski club cabin and keep the place running. It used to be gamified work, installing electricity with solar panels, cutting wood, replacing broken furnitures. People had fun being part of this community. I don't know if nostalgia muddles my perspective but I don't think so. There was not the competitive and judgmental streak that I see in people my age. If I had to keep the place running now. I feel that I would always feel judged by my peers. I have mental illnesses symptoms entitling me to invalidity. They would make me feel that I m lesser than them, not fast enough, to much of a slacker even if I m helping for free. Now, you have to be on top of the competition to consume more than other people. You're always in a hurry, close doors and appliances with pent up violence, destroy your flat, replace everything with diy that will last ten years. Just for the instagram aesthetic that fades in enthropy. We should value results that last and redefine the notion of parasite. Objects are vampirising us. I m as guilty of that as anyone else. But work geared toward producing unnecessary goods or even harmful products should not have the legitimation it has.
When one sees a sea of Earnies sacrificing their lives so that the owners can play golf all day, one quickly sees through the lie of morality through hard work. There are plenty of people who work real hard that are left broken and spent at the end of a short life.
@@andreas0101 Whoa! What reality are you living in. The "Owners" get the government bailouts and the PPP Loans that are forgiven, whereas the working class gets shafted anytime a dollar of profit is available.
@@andreas0101 How many times did Trump declare business bankruptcy to avoid his financial responsibilities? Five times. Try getting away from a Student Loan by declaring bankruptcy,. THAT ISN'T ALLOWED. The worker class takes student loans. The owner class doesn't need student loans.
I don't think that's the type of working hard that most people envision, first of all. You could also say that those who receive the short end of the stick are all "working hard". But what about the people "working hard" that go beyond their comfort zones to do things? That's what people envision when they see the admirable quality of working hard.
It is so deep that i or many might misunderstood to eliminate other option of counting hours, ig here it is talked about how we can start producing and tracking meaningful progress addon to counting hours! Differentiating meaningful progress than unmeaningful work!
The speed of modern life is an oppressive thing, and the corporate world is quick to punish those with an honest heart. Qualities such as ‘nice, honest, kind, happy, relaxed, sincere, innocent’ are frowned upon as weaknesses. Yet these values are the essence of a good person. Unfortunately, if you don’t keep the balance, they can be lost like sand through your fingers. Fennel Hudson
Really good talk! I think the important part is that we need to learn to reflect and to be truthfull with ourselve and otherd. I dont want to just signal that I can sit 8 hours a day at my work place and look laborous. I want to create value and i want to create a cooperative working Environment where we produce meaningful products. Yet, it seems that there is this strong underlying heuristic used that "working less than 8 hours is just lazyiness". I think that people using such a heuristic should engage in more truthfull self reflection. 😅
Busyness is just virtue signaling. But why should we perceive them as virtuous? Maybe they fail to have healthy boundaries and are not able to self actualize.
Efficiency is, but another attempt at better hard-working. Efforts, on the other hand, show reliability and principles. They are two sides of the same coin. Work doesn't ALWAYS have to produce meaningful, cost effective results. Evolution didn't take the most effective paths did it? We didn't get this far by calculating every little thing. We got this far by endless stubborn conviction in the things we believe in. We work hard, and a long the way, we get some great minds that improve the efficiency of our works. But great minds aren't easy to find and as reliable as hardworking.
Not if you ignore your family/loved ones..a strong work ethic is a good thing but workaholics are not easy to live with..workaholics are always working but not always finishing
I used to exercise a lot and was disciplined BUT was so angry at myself for never being good enough I took out stress on others and essentially emotionally abused them. (I was in middle school haha) The crazy thing is I justified and rationalized exercising hard because it would make me learn how to put up with pain so therefore I would be a more patient person in real life. Makes sense right? But since I was more focused on the effort I was putting into exercise than I was anything else the purpose was lost. I was putting in effort for efforts sakes not caring about how it hurt others cause of course I was in the right I was working hard. But obviously that wasn’t true. This Ted talk is wisdom
We can't blame work hard as a false method since it builds our civilisation. In this case, I agree with him and he diligently said about the worse case of work hard as an ideology, workism. I haven't thought about this one. Meaning is very prominent in our society if we want to thrive in this stressful world, so work smart is a novel way to move our society into resilience era.
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Most of us are not working for money, because life is not only about eating and having money but it is about struggling and challanging ourselves. the more knowledge you get about something the more respect you will gain.
I was reluctant to watch at first, thinking he was gonna discredit hardwork. But it turns out he talks about how we need to redirect hardwork towards something meaningful
What's more scary about this theory is that, people tend to create difficulties on purpose during working just to make themselves more moral, at least in their own eyes. As result, people sacrifice for nothing at all. Resources are wasted, time is gone, but we are so touched by ourselves. What's the meaning of all that?
Relating morality with harder work makes sense to me. If I see two persons: One achieving something without much effort, & the other achieving the same but with much more effort, I will respect the 2nd person. I myself suffer from OCD, which make me finish things after a long time compared with others, because of my brain's effort in dealing with both productivity & OCD.
There is a study that landlords receiving rents and do nothing feel more unfortunate than ordinary workers. But i think authentic work means just work with meaning in that case.
Hard work does nothing to build character. It just wears you out. To build character, you have to spend some time thinking. Mind numbing work doesn't lend itself to deep thought.
His name “Azim” means perseverance. What a luxury it is to be able to do academic work on one's own name 😅 I also found it very interesting that his last name is Shariff. He has the same surname as Muzaffer Shariff, a Turkish-American scientist who is one of the founding fathers of social psychology and who did many important experiments such as the Robbers Cave experiment. Maybe it's just a coincidence, because this last name is common in the Islamic world. But it's interesting that Mr. Azim is also studying social psychology.
Hard work rewards actual results. Actually learning whatever you’re doing. I don’t work hard because I want to be seen as a kinder or more compassionate person or what have you. This video is just for people who want a pat on the back for being lazier than others. Money is not always the gratification a human seeks and most of the lifeforms on this planet don’t understand that.
There's a lot of hard working people that are terrible examples to be a part of a healthy relationship. Work can and has been utilized by culture, society as a way to escape personal accountability for self reflection, mental health and relationship development
Great talk! Though I think he missed a point, although hard working people are a better choice, sometimes they have to work hard not because they want to but because they struggle to get it done unlike others who make it look easier than it is, which often leave them exhausted
There are way more than enough people in the world to do what needs to be done. If we destigmatized leisure and distributed proceeds more equitably, we could have necessary functions staffed 24-7 while not requiring any individual to work more than 8 hours a day, 3-4 days a week.
no there is not. people are retiring/dying and we do not have a work force capable of sustaining the complexity and throughput of current jobs. work isn't just brawn, this is not middle ages; most people are literally unable to fill most roles which allow society to maintain itself. the individualism in current generations makes people unable to see need of learning things, they just want cash fast for whatever diversion.
@@DuckieMcduck so kill the slackers? Sounds like a training problem, not a shortage of people overall. We need a value shift anyway if our species is going to survive.
@@cafiend how do we propose value shift if people are to assume that the virtue in hard work is an illusion, and that it will be someone else who will be responsible for needed work rather than their own selves? what happens when everybody thinks like so?
Thanks for bringing up this interesting subject. The value we give to the workaholics was on my mind for the past few weeks. But there was one thing in particular that intrested me in your speech, Don't you think we assume hard-work people succcesful so that's why we unconsciously admire them? I would be glad to know your opinion on this.
I’d be interested to see what happens when you flip the original equation. Same output, but B takes longer = B is “more good” But what if they both put in 12hrs, but A produces more? - the effort is equal, but as A is more efficient and produces more, they’ve spent equal time, despite knowing less effort was actually required to deliver the same amount . Does this not make A “more good”?
It differs from my opinion about working. I tought that warking hard and doing difficult tasks, increase my value. but does my value associate with working?!
Business expects 60- 85% productivity. The only reason to work harder is being behind on quota or overachieve to reach a bonus. Beware of getting a job with billable hours.
so I work in retail and I see this sort of ideology all the time but in a weaponised form. I see the company that I work for making cuts to staff and contracts in order to maximize profits. however, on the employee side, I see people trying to work harder than they were before in order to make up the slack. when I asked 1 of the guys I work with why he was doing that he stated that he didn't want to leave the extra work that needed doing to other people. having watched this I can't help wondering if it's because of a need to be perceived as hardworking and reliable.
Hello, very interesting video. But I have a question about the cobras story, if anybody can enlighten me. I feel like there was a reward for cobra's skin, so it's not the same thing. They don't breed them for the sake of being the most efficient killer, but probably because that a) an easier way than to chase cobras all around the city b) a good money income. So, I see that more as a work strategy to have more, than an effort to be the best, hardworker fellow. That might indeed lead to bad consequences, but it seems to me they chose to do less to have more. Isn't it the opposite ?
In my early career after graduating, I was the only one who knocks off on time. >90% chose to work overtime. I didn't care about what people think of me, neither do I play office politics. I just delivered results and focused on productivity.
If everyone would have worked like this, we would have a totally different working environments.
are you rich now?
@@fintech1378 I 'retired' at 38. But I intend to work forever to remain purposeful.
@@winstonl1629 u retired at 38. Isn't that what everyone wants!! So it DOES means that workholism is really helpful.
@@abhaysahu3520 Retirement is a fallacy for most pple. Enjoy for 1-3 years max. Then there is huge loss in sense of purpose. I was most unhappy when I had most and was surprised with this revelation. This taught me to invest in more impt things for eternity - religion, relationships, continue to enjoy working, picking up new hobbies.
The broader explanation of why we should work smart and not hard, but with actual meaningful results. Thank you for this! :)
He did not talk about doing smart work in place of putting hard efforts. He just explain the mentality of people seeing hard efforts as success rather than their results., perception of things can change the world
For me, this subject is central to creating an automated future society. It's amazing how many people can't see beyond a world where we work, and define ourselves by our job. Sooner or later we'll have to let go of the concept of working for a living and let the technology take over, at which point we can let our interests and hobbies define us, as hard as that might be for some people.
omg
Love this
Not really going to happen. AI can replace some mundane tasks, but it us terrible with nuance and actual people skills. Not going to an AI doc or therapist or call a robocop.
I would die rather than be paid by the government without providing enough value for society and solving real problems through my effort being like a parasite.
@Mojtaba Peyrovian Then you’re a slave.
My father worked hard in his mission. My mother work hard in her mission. Then I started working hard on everything. In my world, Pain/labour = honesty, industry, contribution. I took this pain loving sensibilities into relationship, self-worth. I felt I am betraying my loved one when I don't work hard in various aspect of my existence. I reached to a point when I fell into deep sadness/lifelessness. I took refuse in nature. And when I did that my brother saw that as an escape. Then I realized my me and family thought that some kind of pain/effort is your real worth. It is not the way. It is most insincere and unkind to myself. Now I am able to see my beliefs in front of me and not be dragged by it. I feel alive. I feel light. I see what is in front of me. It shows me what can I do. I am allowing it to be done well. No rushing. Not attaching my self-esteem with what I am doing. I accept my spontaneity. Leave the rest.
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I think this is one of the most valuable TED Talks I've seen in a while. Thank you.
We need to finish evaluating work by counting hours. We need to evaluate results.
Exactly. Modern workforce is time owed, which encourages lackluster productivity as well.
Finishing work early (doing. A better job than expected), should be rewarded, but instead it is punished.
I worked at jpmorgan for several years and omg the wastage was insane, I’d say people spend a day, as in a whole day, doing about 90 minutes of work. Every single thing is drawn out so that the employees can go as slow as possible. I’m no slave driver, people should feel comfortable at work but I found it painfully boring as things moved too slowly even for me.
Respected Dr. Azim Sheriff, your talk finally gave me peace of mind at the realization of my hardworking ethics.
I didn't know why I was so hard working.
I'm almost close to retirement but never want to give up.
Bless you for the timely appearance 🙏 in my life.
I'm glad I am on the same BC soil.
I think only giving morality to the result or meaningfulness of the result, we then only would appreciate ppl who can give the best results. While economically speaking this is optimal, but socially speaking it lets those, who cannot produce extraordinary results, behind.
I think both is important, good results and reasonable good effort.
Striking a balance between effort and results is important. The amount of effort is often related to the complexity of a challenge. And to show you can put the effort in and achieve a result demonstrates grit which is a highly desireable trait.
but if one has put in the effort outside of work - and get the SAME job done in half the time - do I "pretend" to put in effort now - when I did before - just to look good to a boss? I can do what I am good at so much faster and with no mistakes than others - and I am penalized if I have to work face to face or side by side with the others
Amazing ! May this video spread all over the world, so people realize this world we built can be changed thru our minds.
I want this shared everywhere. He’s articulating what I think is a deep rooted problem with the values of modern society.
Bertrand Russell’s book “In Praise of Idleness” also touches upon the same topic.
He said, though, that this attitude exists in all societies, modern or not. The need to be useful to our community is very deeply ingrained in us. Living in a fully automated utopia would, I think, feel like a neverending childhood except I would be too old for that.
@@tommihorttana860 key-word: *think*
No one knows what life in a society that doesn’t require labor thanks to modern tech would look like. Who says there wouldn’t still be things that need to get done? Who says there wouldn’t still be ways to be ‘useful?’ Who says we can’t just *be* ?
I'm an avid learner and I'm from Vietnam. I'm here to practice my English listening skills. I leave a comment so as to mark my progress. Thank you so much for this invaluable content! Lots of love from Vietnam.
This really got me! I've been working for some time now and something that has always bothered me is this extreme demand from some of my bosses of me and my coworkers to participate and engage in some social media/msg groups to show that we are actually "working" what led me to think, and by what he said, that what matters is to deliver some bullsh** job than to do some meaningful.
It's so obviously counter-productive to make You do social media as a sign you're doing work!
It's so easy to type how hard one is working whether they are or not.
And of course the ones spending more time typing about how hard they are working have less time to actually work,
but they're seen as the most productive.
It's a perfect example of exactly what the Professor said is using the wrong signal to demonstrate the expected goal.
That is one of a few recent Ted talk that actually holds some interesting idea worth spreading. Thank You, I wish more videos would be like this
Yeah im 30. Very good, very hard worker, very mindfull, always giving valuable feedback and suggestions of problem solving.l, im specialized in many spheres inside and outside the job.
And i tried to prove myself that with hard work you can earn some better life.
Guess what... I was wrong. Oh how much i was and ak wrong in that
Virtue has nothing to do with work ethic or the product of work volume/productivity. just because a Dr or RN works hard to save your life in the emergency room or ICU-because they are being compensated & expected to do so, doesn’t mean that they would walk across the street to feed or shelter you from starving or freezing to death. Many would just stare & step over you while telling themselves that someone else will save you. Maybe, if they felt generous, they might tell you to eat or get out of the cold. their incentive is $$$ not sparing life in such a case. The lines blurred to the onlookers. Where you intersected them would likely determine if you lived or died that day, not their virtues or a willingness to only “do good work”.
Why is feeding and housing losers in society moral? If you want to, please do so. But don't force others through government spending of our productive labor to bail out losers. Society only needs to losers as an example of who not to be.
friggen amazingly articulated series of questions and arguments
Can't agree more. We were forced into workism rather than choosing it. Some people even foreget that we work in order to live, not vice versa.
I always thought that working hard is what will make me to succeed in life, but recently I started to think in another way. Now I think that working smart will make me succeed. This video convinced me that even more. Thank you.
I absolutely refuse to make work my life. We are worth more than our jobs.
I agree, we work to live... at least at *employment*. But if somebody does absolutely nothing, because they don't have to do anything, that's less appealing and valuable of a person than someone who doesn't have to do anything and chooses to garden, make crafts, build something, program, help people, emotionally support people, etc.
Employers don’t care about employees. I would be good letting the AI do the work while I get paid to enjoy other aspects of life. I definitely would not be “doing nothing”. Life is too short!
@@StarSystemAndromeda Exactly. I would devote more time to my activism. In particular I would do more hands on activism.
@@StarSystemAndromeda The assumption of "doing nothing" I had was passively consuming entertainment (eg wasting 5 years of my life watching youtube), or filling time with isolating non-selfgrowth participation activities (singleplayer/unsocial nonstory videogames, and 90rnogr@phy/m@s7urb@710n) Avoiding these things whether by work or by socializing, or by a hobby, or staying productive in some other way, or by indulging in something more creative seems like over a lifetime it would be a better outcome than I have chosen thusfar in my life.
More than that. A "job" does not define an individual. Any person can do any other job around given the training. And any other job may have elements that you can create more value in.
The hard question is - where is the additional value needed enough to justify paying a living wage for a person.
The fact is that not everyone is going to launch a startup or create a revolutionary app or pioneer something. But we can all decide for ourselves the things that give meaning in our lives. Those things can be big or small. So by all means, work enough to pay the bills (and spend wisely). But also make time for doing what brings meaning to your life. These two don't always have to intersect though, and that's perfectly OK.
In career this might translate to “visibility” (to upper management).
I think what happened is:
1. observers being detached from subjects (don’t really understand what happened), falls to generalization more effort is better. FIX: get better understanding from metrics like “Business Analytics” e.g. level of expertise for a given subject, processing time, quality of work.
2. Subjects expected to work as agreement as Scope Of Work (SoW) but in reality that SoW keeps shifting to the point of outside the expertise, depending on specific interpretation circumstances this results in wording: burnout, imposter syndrome, peter principle, etc. FIX: better effort on SoW communication alignment, don’t stop at blanket statements but drill down to specific points.
this. Thank you.
This lecture explores the concept of the moralization of effort, which is to consider hard work as a moral virtue regardless of the results obtained. Studies show that people perceive those who put in more effort to be more trustworthy, moral, and cooperative, even if their efforts don't provide additional value. However, this moralization of effort can have problematic consequences when applied at the scale of society, creating a work culture where activity is privileged to the detriment of real productivity. The speaker emphasizes the need to focus more on producing meaningful results rather than just valuing the appearance of hard work.
For me, meaningful work is what I seek instead of making hard work effortless.
On the one hand, in school and at uni, it was validated to be able to do your homework faster than other people, to be smart without effort.
As a kid, we used to go to a ski club cabin and keep the place running. It used to be gamified work, installing electricity with solar panels, cutting wood, replacing broken furnitures.
People had fun being part of this community. I don't know if nostalgia muddles my perspective but I don't think so.
There was not the competitive and judgmental streak that I see in people my age. If I had to keep the place running now. I feel that I would always feel judged by my peers. I have mental illnesses symptoms entitling me to invalidity. They would make me feel that I m lesser than them, not fast enough, to much of a slacker even if I m helping for free.
Now, you have to be on top of the competition to consume more than other people. You're always in a hurry, close doors and appliances with pent up violence, destroy your flat, replace everything with diy that will last ten years.
Just for the instagram aesthetic that fades in enthropy.
We should value results that last and redefine the notion of parasite.
Objects are vampirising us.
I m as guilty of that as anyone else.
But work geared toward producing unnecessary goods or even harmful products should not have the legitimation it has.
When one sees a sea of Earnies sacrificing their lives so that the owners can play golf all day, one quickly sees through the lie of morality through hard work. There are plenty of people who work real hard that are left broken and spent at the end of a short life.
Sounds like a jealous loser mentality to me. The owners take the risk and should be rewarded for it.
@@andreas0101 Whoa! What reality are you living in. The "Owners" get the government bailouts and the PPP Loans that are forgiven, whereas the working class gets shafted anytime a dollar of profit is available.
@@andreas0101 How many times did Trump declare business bankruptcy to avoid his financial responsibilities? Five times. Try getting away from a Student Loan by declaring bankruptcy,. THAT ISN'T ALLOWED. The worker class takes student loans. The owner class doesn't need student loans.
One doesn’t value money that one doesn’t earn.
I don't think that's the type of working hard that most people envision, first of all. You could also say that those who receive the short end of the stick are all "working hard". But what about the people "working hard" that go beyond their comfort zones to do things? That's what people envision when they see the admirable quality of working hard.
This deserves way more credit, absolutely well-presented!
Those who put more value on work than its value simply don't know what to do with their lives other than work.
but how much of the effort we spend now is done to build nothing but our own reputations 💔
This video enlightened me to think differently about hard-working
"Look at me, I can make myself do something I really hate to do to the direct benefit of no one."
- Long distance runners
This is one of the most insightful lectures I've ever watched
It is so deep that i or many might misunderstood to eliminate other option of counting hours, ig here it is talked about how we can start producing and tracking meaningful progress addon to counting hours! Differentiating meaningful progress than unmeaningful work!
very insightful. I needed this.
The speed of modern life is an oppressive thing, and the corporate world is quick to punish those with an honest heart. Qualities such as ‘nice, honest, kind, happy, relaxed, sincere, innocent’ are frowned upon as weaknesses. Yet these values are the essence of a good person. Unfortunately, if you don’t keep the balance, they can be lost like sand through your fingers.
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Exactly! Our work aren’t our live, i love it
Bravo, Azim! That was genuinely insightful.
A very different perspective. You said it right we are so wired that Effort is the value. We need to be constantly aware to rewire ourselves.
Really good talk! I think the important part is that we need to learn to reflect and to be truthfull with ourselve and otherd. I dont want to just signal that I can sit 8 hours a day at my work place and look laborous. I want to create value and i want to create a cooperative working Environment where we produce meaningful products. Yet, it seems that there is this strong underlying heuristic used that "working less than 8 hours is just lazyiness". I think that people using such a heuristic should engage in more truthfull self reflection. 😅
Busyness is just virtue signaling. But why should we perceive them as virtuous? Maybe they fail to have healthy boundaries and are not able to self actualize.
Efficiency is, but another attempt at better hard-working. Efforts, on the other hand, show reliability and principles. They are two sides of the same coin. Work doesn't ALWAYS have to produce meaningful, cost effective results. Evolution didn't take the most effective paths did it?
We didn't get this far by calculating every little thing. We got this far by endless stubborn conviction in the things we believe in. We work hard, and a long the way, we get some great minds that improve the efficiency of our works. But great minds aren't easy to find and as reliable as hardworking.
The DIg at France work culture, just lovely.
Not if you ignore your family/loved ones..a strong work ethic is a good thing but workaholics are not easy to live with..workaholics are always working but not always finishing
I used to exercise a lot and was disciplined BUT was so angry at myself for never being good enough I took out stress on others and essentially emotionally abused them. (I was in middle school haha)
The crazy thing is I justified and rationalized exercising hard because it would make me learn how to put up with pain so therefore I would be a more patient person in real life.
Makes sense right?
But since I was more focused on the effort I was putting into exercise than I was anything else the purpose was lost. I was putting in effort for efforts sakes not caring about how it hurt others cause of course I was in the right I was working hard.
But obviously that wasn’t true. This Ted talk is wisdom
hard work is a blessing
We can't blame work hard as a false method since it builds our civilisation. In this case, I agree with him and he diligently said about the worse case of work hard as an ideology, workism. I haven't thought about this one. Meaning is very prominent in our society if we want to thrive in this stressful world, so work smart is a novel way to move our society into resilience era.
If we ask each other, to produce something meaningful... 🙏
put incentives to philosophical effort, social effort,
Focus on productivity rather than activities is my learning 😊
This video coherently tapped into the workaholic asceticism that people are addicted to.
And he ain't all so wrong
Hard and smart work are both part of the binomial to reach your goals.
Can't wait to watch this!
Then stop commenting and scroll up? lmao
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excellent, a huge thank you
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I think it has to do with handling stress, they may not add much value but they sure are disciplined and you know they can handle the workload
There's no value in hard work. The value is in useful productivity. If working hard was the ideal we'd give up all modernity.
Most of us are not working for money, because life is not only about eating and having money but it is about struggling and challanging ourselves.
the more knowledge you get about something the more respect you will gain.
I was reluctant to watch at first, thinking he was gonna discredit hardwork. But it turns out he talks about how we need to redirect hardwork towards something meaningful
What's more scary about this theory is that, people tend to create difficulties on purpose during working just to make themselves more moral, at least in their own eyes. As result, people sacrifice for nothing at all. Resources are wasted, time is gone, but we are so touched by ourselves. What's the meaning of all that?
Ego and false pride maybe.
Either way it's Self-delusion.
Relating morality with harder work makes sense to me. If I see two persons: One achieving something without much effort, & the other achieving the same but with much more effort, I will respect the 2nd person. I myself suffer from OCD, which make me finish things after a long time compared with others, because of my brain's effort in dealing with both productivity & OCD.
At least you admit you have a mental problem that leads to irrationality.
No one on his deathbed said “I wish I worked more”
There is a study that landlords receiving rents and do nothing feel more unfortunate than ordinary workers. But i think authentic work means just work with meaning in that case.
Yes.
Great talk!
Hard work does nothing to build character. It just wears you out. To build character, you have to spend some time thinking. Mind numbing work doesn't lend itself to deep thought.
Consistency is very soothing to our neurological system
to your habits sure, not the meaning of the work though
Bravo, he is absolutly right
Nice Talk.
I would start at 1:47.
Thanks so much
His name “Azim” means perseverance. What a luxury it is to be able to do academic work on one's own name 😅
I also found it very interesting that his last name is Shariff. He has the same surname as Muzaffer Shariff, a Turkish-American scientist who is one of the founding fathers of social psychology and who did many important experiments such as the Robbers Cave experiment. Maybe it's just a coincidence, because this last name is common in the Islamic world. But it's interesting that Mr. Azim is also studying social psychology.
Hard work rewards actual results. Actually learning whatever you’re doing. I don’t work hard because I want to be seen as a kinder or more compassionate person or what have you. This video is just for people who want a pat on the back for being lazier than others. Money is not always the gratification a human seeks and most of the lifeforms on this planet don’t understand that.
working hard makes a good hard worker.
Thank you
Lovely Ted talk ❤😊
"From each according to his ability..."
Hmm, where have I heard this before.
There's a lot of hard working people that are terrible examples to be a part of a healthy relationship. Work can and has been utilized by culture, society as a way to escape personal accountability for self reflection, mental health and relationship development
I really appreciate, thanks prof
Great talk! Though I think he missed a point, although hard working people are a better choice, sometimes they have to work hard not because they want to but because they struggle to get it done unlike others who make it look easier than it is, which often leave them exhausted
I’m curious if you have to change the fabric in there ever? Won’t it get all gummed up?
this is about process vs product. and clearly he is a product person.
There are way more than enough people in the world to do what needs to be done. If we destigmatized leisure and distributed proceeds more equitably, we could have necessary functions staffed 24-7 while not requiring any individual to work more than 8 hours a day, 3-4 days a week.
no there is not. people are retiring/dying and we do not have a work force capable of sustaining the complexity and throughput of current jobs.
work isn't just brawn, this is not middle ages; most people are literally unable to fill most roles which allow society to maintain itself.
the individualism in current generations makes people unable to see need of learning things, they just want cash fast for whatever diversion.
@@DuckieMcduck so kill the slackers? Sounds like a training problem, not a shortage of people overall. We need a value shift anyway if our species is going to survive.
@@cafiend how do we propose value shift if people are to assume that the virtue in hard work is an illusion, and that it will be someone else who will be responsible for needed work rather than their own selves? what happens when everybody thinks like so?
it's a smart , sensitive topic💡
Wow… thank you 🙌🏽🙌🏽
Thanks for bringing up this interesting subject.
The value we give to the workaholics was on my mind for the past few weeks.
But there was one thing in particular that intrested me in your speech, Don't you think we assume hard-work people succcesful so that's why we unconsciously admire them?
I would be glad to know your opinion on this.
I’d be interested to see what happens when you flip the original equation.
Same output, but B takes longer = B is “more good”
But what if they both put in 12hrs, but A produces more?
- the effort is equal, but as A is more efficient and produces more, they’ve spent equal time, despite knowing less effort was actually required to deliver the same amount . Does this not make A “more good”?
Great talk
Really useful points from Azim, the Keanu Reeves of Psychology.
I feel like the example he uses of the cobras also speaks to our increasing homeless population.
It differs from my opinion about working. I tought that warking hard and doing difficult tasks, increase my value. but does my value associate with working?!
Probably, result better than process. Trying freaking hard without having a purpose may lead to nothing.
This talk was beautifully crafted it seems A.I generated.
I am still waiting to see when Ted is gonna talk...
Business expects 60- 85% productivity. The only reason to work harder is being behind on quota or overachieve to reach a bonus. Beware of getting a job with billable hours.
this is very good
indeed
so I work in retail and I see this sort of ideology all the time but in a weaponised form. I see the company that I work for making cuts to staff and contracts in order to maximize profits. however, on the employee side, I see people trying to work harder than they were before in order to make up the slack. when I asked 1 of the guys I work with why he was doing that he stated that he didn't want to leave the extra work that needed doing to other people. having watched this I can't help wondering if it's because of a need to be perceived as hardworking and reliable.
Ur words are very true bro
Leave comment before watch. Thanks for uploading
Wonderfully well-spoken
so what should be a good solution to the cobras problem?
Hello, very interesting video. But I have a question about the cobras story, if anybody can enlighten me. I feel like there was a reward for cobra's skin, so it's not the same thing. They don't breed them for the sake of being the most efficient killer, but probably because that a) an easier way than to chase cobras all around the city b) a good money income. So, I see that more as a work strategy to have more, than an effort to be the best, hardworker fellow. That might indeed lead to bad consequences, but it seems to me they chose to do less to have more. Isn't it the opposite ?