CAN THE FAMILY OF THIS OLD MAN ADVISE HIM TO BEHAVE HIMSELF, like a Judge, we already see the side he has taken, protect the state at all costs and undermine the defence because is his senses the accused are guilty.
Defence pliz dont agree for the report to be done out of the court .that guy van not risk his billions tender by exposing the police never.besides u need just a phone with internet to put the coordinates together.
But she is standing up for number 5 who can’t really be trusted with that record and what we already know, talking to Kelly a few days before the murder. It’s not as simpke
Who stopped first police who went to take statement from house ppl ,when KK called for them to be dismissed ? They have to begin there so that we know whose behind this whole problem or ANC will loose our votes ,
From day 1 mdhololo appeared,,, Rathas soul is being irritated by this lady ,,,you could hardly see his face. When mdhololo start the Cross examination. She is a bulldozer 😂😂😂😂😂 Grinder 😅😅😅😅
She makes assertions that have no basis and states those assertions as fact. She makes illogical conclusions and states those conclusions as fact. She likes tricking the witnesses. The judge reprimands her when she does that. As a result, her go to phrase is, 'Let me rephrase, my lord
Hope the defense covered the GPS UNLOCK issue in the report ie can GPS be UNLOCKED by the means of vehicle location eg underground, electronic intereferance
i dont agree with such judge's position the parties have agreed that let the report come open as an evidence and not after the report what type of advocacy is that. let the report be distributed to all and let them prepare. why ambushing
Mr. Mngomezulu is smart the way he answered about the status of the report and he just threw Baloyi under the bus and aslo i think judge hates mshololo because mshololo didn't say satisfied with the report yet judge fingers managed to misquote her anyway i pray president judge must always attend this proceedings because we all saw that judge fingers wasn't on Baloyi's side
Mshololo wanted to be naughty and cause drama again for the weekend. The idea was for her to say something controversial and borderline plausible. This would have been the videoclip for the weekend. Luckily, the judge saw through her and cut her short!
😂😂😂😂Ya, Msho is starting to be mischievous. It was Mnisi first, but now he's tamed and he makes a lot of sense. Msho mustn't start now and forget about the "hormones". Ratha will knock her down head down😅😅😅.
I thought a civil trial was also adversarial, while he is correct in seeking determination of the status of the report, he.seems to shoot before aiming(thinking) and walk back his proclamations as he talks a matter through, often changing track and sides.
This judge us absolutely a disgrace to the people of SA. It's ok, when he uses vinecular language but when it's others the machine doesn't recognise it. Usile lotata shame
Yes when they want a half day ...they immediately create a scenario using their language of law....just to enjoy friday.. forgetting that such postponement affect those who are in prison....lempuculu U Baloyi isileeee
@@tatane3243@tatane3243 Read before you answer .The defence is actually challenging it already ,if it will come and not favour them .The plan is to get the report , be furnished with copies and once it doesn't favour them they were going to try not have it hanged up as evidence 👍but my Lord made it clear, since it's a joint exercise from an expert, the court will hear of the findings. My comment was during the argument not 6hours later after the live broadcast ended 👍
@@thandodada7068some of us think bfr we utter something, but some just utter,, we may be anxious n angry and all about the trial and stuff but getting too personal hai😢😢,
I wonder why the defence When the vehicle was in access idle didn't ask "Why was the vehicle in aceess idle" MY THOUGHT "THEY PUT the Acussed In Front of The State Vehicle and threatened to Run Him Over" Its attempted murder because theres no such legal interrogation techniques like that, This defence is slow and weak to ask the proper questions,they harp and harp on things over and over that has no or very little implications on this case, ASK BALOYI,"WHY HAVEN'T YOU CALLED KELLY or LONGWE TI COURT ALREADY "😂
If Thabo bester,s saga will be handled by these Public justice officers uzobahlula uBester uyophuma free discharge, ispecial this old my Lord evn lami ngeke ngimuzwe lowu 😂😂😂
What a WASTE OF TIME niknaks ke matlakala,adjourned til Monday leburu le emisitse case tsiiiiiiiiiiii ⛔️wena 🦍 re batla STATUS OF REPORT 🤲🏿 o lese go tshwara kwa le kwa Stay safe masataforika am a mantle be SOBER 🫦 #justice4senzo 🇩🇪🇧🇼🇿🇦🚩👎🏿🤮
JUDGE SPEAKING TO WITNESSES LIKE HES INDEBTED 2 THEM...YET SPEAKS TO THE DEFENCE IN SUCH AN ARROGANT MANNER 😢😢😢
Ijo this judge is all over the place he is not aware that he is exposing his weaknesses by talking too much trying to show off.
Stop bullying the defence. Let them see the report first
That was not denied by the judge at any one moment during this court session.
What is the defence afraid of? Why are they in doubt?
As they have said that report can be tempered as the witness represent the state that's why they want to perus it first
@@sibiyablessing48as always, i don't know why this time the judge don't allow the defence to see the report and prepare themselves
What a waste of time!Mr Baloyi sure is regretting why he introduced the AVL testimony😮
Mshololo, please include those who were inside the khumalo house to be investigated, truth will prevail.
CAN THE FAMILY OF THIS OLD MAN ADVISE HIM TO BEHAVE HIMSELF, like a Judge, we already see the side he has taken, protect the state at all costs and undermine the defence because is his senses the accused are guilty.
Defence pliz dont agree for the report to be done out of the court .that guy van not risk his billions tender by exposing the police never.besides u need just a phone with internet to put the coordinates together.
True they should make an effort to do the coordinates on their own or find someone to educate them so that they don’t start on ground zero
That is y they said that he is a witness for the state and they will cross examin him. meaning they can or cannot agree with the report.
This guys will consult someone outside about this wait and see
@@hlazo1 you are 100% correct,,, that's what they going to do,, they don't trust the guy.
Thank you defence
Madam Mshololo must stand up for uMa kaSenzo she is the only female in the defense team
But she is standing up for number 5 who can’t really be trusted with that record and what we already know, talking to Kelly a few days before the murder. It’s not as simpke
Ohhh she is standing up for a murderer and making money.
Who stopped first police who went to take statement from house ppl ,when KK called for them to be dismissed ? They have to begin there so that we know whose behind this whole problem or ANC will loose our votes ,
At times Mshololo is too much,she's boring me
What a black Friday in court😂😂😂
Why is the judge making jokes on Ntanzi being beaten this jugde i is so cruel 😢😢
I guess he find this case joke
Ishhh he act like is not old an man is heart breaking ka nnete
Mcm dis judge gogo ratha
The Pedi guy can translate 😂😂😂😂
I wonder if this case will ever be completed? The accused😢 are the ones to suffer behind bars every two days is this or that ,
Remember they're serving sentences in jail for other murders...some of them were involved in political killings in KZN
I thing Mngomezulu is doing a fantastic job. The other defence lawyers are spectators. 😮😮😮😮
Not dat thy are spectators they help each other
Mnisi and Nxumalo are playing with pens like school boys
They are helping him (Mngomezulu)
Also because he is specifically representing accused number 1 and 2
, also remember that the trial within trail is about the admissibility of the confession made by both accused 1 and 2
Thy gave State a chance to sit down wt Du Pree, Mogane nd Gininda so thy can compile their testimonies but why defence councillors why😢😢😢😢😢
@Greatness-dd6pi what r u saying tota u could've jst shut your mouth bcz thr is nothing u r talking about my guy🤐
@Greatness-dd6pi Defence was not wht *exluded* wrong english nd u want to teach me english fotsek
@Greatness-dd6pi plz be kind to others
Who is paying for these accused? They are paying advocates not attorneys. Imagine from Monday to Friday
Point of correction : High court matters are dealt with by the Advocates,or attorneys who have a " right of appearance at a high court ".
Legal Aid
Us
Bring Gininda
Either Mshololo always gets it wrong or Ratha always finds her being wrong or its personal.
Mshololo is Heavy for Rathatha
Ratha is on mission to paralyse Msholos energy ... Ratha does not like that woman
18th and 19th June Baloyi wish if he can remove this dates from 2020 calendar 😂
From day 1 mdhololo appeared,,, Rathas soul is being irritated by this lady ,,,you could hardly see his face. When mdhololo start the Cross examination. She is a bulldozer 😂😂😂😂😂 Grinder 😅😅😅😅
She makes assertions that have no basis and states those assertions as fact. She makes illogical conclusions and states those conclusions as fact. She likes tricking the witnesses. The judge reprimands her when she does that. As a result, her go to phrase is, 'Let me rephrase, my lord
And they must not forget dockets from kzn logbooks and pocketsbooks
Ahhh that one they don't even touch it anymore😅😅😅what is difficult to bring a docket 😅😅😅Gininda sonsense child
😢honest feel for Ntanzi
I don't feel anything but the truth will come out one day
So all Fridays Yu postponing
It’s like saying Friday, tools down
Uma kuwukuthi lababasolwa lelicala abalazi kubuhlungu ngabo uma kunjalo kodwa ngelinye ilanga liyovela iqiniso
Waze wakhuluma kahle
Vele abahlangene nalento lento i simple
@@slindileluthuli3905haaibo wawuhamba nabo yini ngelanga lesigameko njengoba u sune " sure" kangaka. Iqiniso Sonke asazi ukuthi who killed Senzo .
@@thandodada7068 ayi wena uyagula ekhanda futhi abantu abafana nawe angibanaki ikuphi langithekhona ibona ababula ubozijwayeza ukufunda u Bongiwe ufike wabhala akubhalile ngaphendula ngase Ngithi "waze wakhuluma kahle" wenake yini le okhuluma ngayo senajaha nje uku attack umuntu,
But is this not what Mr Mngomezulu asked for at the inception of the AVL evidence by Mr Moganu
thats what he insisted but Mr know it all denied now at the end he is asking the witness if he plot the coordinates 😄😄😃
The acknowledge at the end THANKS 4REPORTERS it comes straight from his chest pain he knows everyone is talking about this court proceedings 😂😂😂
Many pple wants to study law now pple r motivated to go back school Senzo's case has changed people's lives now wooow humanity&justice - intertwined
Jonga ndingomnye wabo wishing I can change my career path after so many years.. 😂😂This trial really has some sort of motivation
We want coordinates as well
Awutati utsini wena
I foresee a brown envelope flying to DuPreez.. data will be altered.
Everytime to you is " the brown envelope" shame on you.
@@thandodada7068 do you understand english very well?
So that they have enough time to temper with the data
Judge is the Chief of the court, he's even referred to as "the court"
Hope the defense covered the GPS UNLOCK issue in the report ie can GPS be UNLOCKED by the means of vehicle location eg underground, electronic intereferance
This court is now becoming a joke...NEVER READY AND ALWAYS LATE PLUS TWO OR THREE ADJOURNMENT PER HOUR
And who are u blaming on to
The whole administration@@mimienuba9789
@@mimienuba9789the state was not ready for this case they thought they'll finish it within 'Trial within trial' kanti akzoba njalo
I knew they will find tricks for early Friday as they always did .Very consistent and predictable 🤦♂️🤦♂️
Bafuna ukubamba ay1 or 2🍻phela this job is stressful
@@nomalungelomthimunye9579 🤣🤣jah neh
@@nomalungelomthimunye9579fa
Sgt Ke Nnete Mogane will be exposed by tracker.
They'll cover it up, wait and see
i dont agree with such judge's position the parties have agreed that let the report come open as an evidence and not after the report what type of advocacy is that. let the report be distributed to all and let them prepare. why ambushing
That is Exactly how I view it myself. This judge is putting the defence in an unfair situation
Mr. Mngomezulu is smart the way he answered about the status of the report and he just threw Baloyi under the bus and aslo i think judge hates mshololo because mshololo didn't say satisfied with the report yet judge fingers managed to misquote her anyway i pray president judge must always attend this proceedings because we all saw that judge fingers wasn't on Baloyi's side
Weh! Iyolala ibonene boPublic Justice officers.
Mpelasonto emnandi.
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Thanks to you too Public Justice officer omkhulu😂😂😂.
Weekend enhle nemnandi nakuwena my learned friend/ colleague 😅😅😅.
Nazo #justice4senzo
Mshololo wanted to be naughty and cause drama again for the weekend. The idea was for her to say something controversial and borderline plausible. This would have been the videoclip for the weekend. Luckily, the judge saw through her and cut her short!
I also notice that she comes up like a storm and end up agreeing with the judge,"yes my Lord" "as it pleases the court".
She is becoming too big for herself
😂😂😂😂Ya, Msho is starting to be mischievous. It was Mnisi first, but now he's tamed and he makes a lot of sense. Msho mustn't start now and forget about the "hormones". Ratha will knock her down head down😅😅😅.
I wish Ratha can stop throwing his arthritis hands around. Uyangi trauma tiza
😂😂😂😂
Yoh 😂😂😂😂😂
This judiciary sexist. He has had a condescending attitude towards Mshololo since she took him earlier on the trial.
I believe Senzo's family have lost interest in this trial, a simple yet unnecessarily taking a long time, this is not fair .
I thought a civil trial was also adversarial, while he is correct in seeking determination of the status of the report, he.seems to shoot before aiming(thinking) and walk back his proclamations as he talks a matter through, often changing track and sides.
This is a wrong move by Defence, they should have sight of the report then cross examination this Police b4 Dupree
Ratha what are you afriaf of? Let baloi and defence decide
Judge Ratha is Bais, he is emotional and I hate the way he responds to the defence 😢
This judge us absolutely a disgrace to the people of SA. It's ok, when he uses vinecular language but when it's others the machine doesn't recognise it. Usile lotata shame
Unezothe and such a bully this old hag. Uyadina yhoo. Mayide iphele nale circus yabo cause akho nyani apha
This is all because of Mnisi who asked if it's possible to see it was in a dumping area
BLACK FRIDAY COURT 🚮🚮
Judge Middle finger ! Is having a personal hype with Mshololo . He has to allow the defence to talk without interruptions.
Yes when they want a half day ...they immediately create a scenario using their language of law....just to enjoy friday.. forgetting that such postponement affect those who are in prison....lempuculu U Baloyi isileeee
I think he was wrong in his reference to factum probanda, should have been facto probantia if referring to evidential facts
And if du preez will be caught out and exposed he will be a disgrace to his company and lose his job 😂
😢l am worried about a report that will be compiled during weekendl hope it must not be fabricated
Me too but they olready have coordinate so they can't change them.
What is this trend that every Friday they make prosponement.
Now the witness may manipulate the area of dumping area
😂😂😂
Every Friday it's postponement until Monday
That's what they do postponing on every fridays
@@njabulojb2994 I really feel for the Meyiwa family. This is too much and surely the government should intervein on this matter
No Baloi he will not simulate or recreate he will follow the coordinates simple. Dont play with us here.
Lol, if ba sure of Ntanzi's version they must not have any doubts but submit the report 😅
You clearly think this is a joke 🤞
Baloyi said the result will be different uzozwa sebethi COOKED or BROWN ENVELOP
Who must submit the report, is it the defence or the state? Listen to understand not answer .
@@tatane3243 the report must be presented in court by the witness ( expert )
@@tatane3243@tatane3243 Read before you answer .The defence is actually challenging it already ,if it will come and not favour them .The plan is to get the report , be furnished with copies and once it doesn't favour them they were going to try not have it hanged up as evidence 👍but my Lord made it clear, since it's a joint exercise from an expert, the court will hear of the findings. My comment was during the argument not 6hours later after the live broadcast ended 👍
Lelijaji ligay , likhuluma ngezandla,
2:56 true that. He is gay
😂😂😂😂😂
Ungaqalisi ungene empilwe I yomuntu e personal. La sihla gene ngecali lika Meyiwa NOT ngempilo ye judge . Funds ukuhlonipha abantu ungabi yisidlova .
😂😂😂
@@thandodada7068some of us think bfr we utter something, but some just utter,, we may be anxious n angry and all about the trial and stuff but getting too personal hai😢😢,
Mnisi has sold the defense cancel of accused 2
Why the Judge is calling Mamshololo as Mr Mshololo?
I think it's just a mistake
This judge he's tsjatsjaragi
@@sifisondaba7019,😂😂😂
This judge liyangicasula instead of aphenye icala he is against maMshololo
She's giving him hard time that's why 😂😂
Baloi's plan is working and defense is playing along
But he won't succeed this time, this case is against him so far
I wonder why the defence When the vehicle was in access idle didn't ask "Why was the vehicle in aceess idle"
MY THOUGHT "THEY PUT the Acussed In Front of The State Vehicle and threatened to Run Him Over"
Its attempted murder because theres no such legal interrogation techniques like that,
This defence is slow and weak to ask the proper questions,they harp and harp on things over and over that has no or very little implications on this case,
ASK BALOYI,"WHY HAVEN'T YOU CALLED KELLY or LONGWE TI COURT ALREADY "😂
Tyt
Late again,when do they ever be on time 😢
If Thabo bester,s saga will be handled by these Public justice officers uzobahlula uBester uyophuma free discharge, ispecial this old my Lord evn lami ngeke ngimuzwe lowu 😂😂😂
Hi
Iyadinisa le jugde etshingeminwe ayinambeko xeim kdwa mdala why ezixhaya defence mxiiiiiiiiim
Sekuzofakaza nomfundi kamatikuletsheni engabe wayemngakanani kubulawa USenzo
Adiqalee
Kubi kanti
What a WASTE OF TIME niknaks ke matlakala,adjourned til Monday leburu le emisitse case tsiiiiiiiiiiii ⛔️wena 🦍 re batla STATUS OF REPORT 🤲🏿 o lese go tshwara kwa le kwa
Stay safe masataforika am a mantle be SOBER 🫦
#justice4senzo
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Allegedly they are still going to check and make changes which will benefit the state. I don't trust the state
@@ziblospoNOBODY trusts them they must do away with their monkey tricks Teffooooonation told him 😘
thus court 💩
this court 💩🤬
@@BMCDelight aggggggg🤮
Why not ratha? What are you running from?
Mnxm😊
Hie friends
Baloyi yoooh
Tjooooooo
Baphi?
They streaming on eNCA TH-cam now
Tolikani phela bafundi
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A b c d e f g
Uthethayo uqalile
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But the using coordinate to find exact spot can be done by anyone since they have coordinate
Hlw kwenzekani😂
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Kant uza nin uGininda
Vele loGininda uyeqhaba kumbiza webaloyi😊
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