Meyiwa murder trial: 'Contradicting testimonies' from state witnesses

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  • @hgfku-tn6hb
    @hgfku-tn6hb ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Lies have been the order of the day in this case from the beginning. You can't expect justice with wrong suspects

    • @wandeywandey1144
      @wandeywandey1144 ปีที่แล้ว

      baloyi is not doing any justice to this case and of course the judge is adding spices to this. A judge who displays her unfairness shoud be viewed otherwise. The world is watching and am serious about this

  • @victorvertuin3942
    @victorvertuin3942 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Elton is so honest in his views nd one can see all the witnesses evidence is all over the place.

  • @PhunyezwaVutuza
    @PhunyezwaVutuza ปีที่แล้ว +28

    In fairness this Judge should do as Elton Hart is suggesting otherwise this prolonged trial is becoming a waste on occupying this court unnecessarily and wasting taxpayers money

  • @sibusisobrian5038
    @sibusisobrian5038 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Can Baloyi bring on Gininda fast fast i want to see something

  • @abutilesego2u59
    @abutilesego2u59 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Elton Hart never disappoint I sometimes wonder if judge fingers watches his analysis cos if he does he'll make him better judge even though he's retired

  • @ThoboSenior
    @ThoboSenior ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The problem with this case isn’t the contradictory statement of witnesses, the judge is the main problem, he is a witness, prosecutor and judge of his own case. I think court president must take control of this image of judiciary is being tainted..

  • @nomhlezondo4819
    @nomhlezondo4819 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Mogola asked about the key 🗝...somehow it was in custody..all a sudden gave to natnzi ..then again ask ntanzi for a key to open the door..jikijiki she makes examples of shoestring.this lady is a liar.

  • @Mavb3AtzSmyth13
    @Mavb3AtzSmyth13 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    HAVE YOU NOTICED GUYS THAT EVERY TIME WHEN RATHA INTERJECT FOLLOWS AN OBJECTION BY BALOYI, HEATED CONVERSATION WHEN MNGOMEZULU TOLD THE COURT THAT THE JUDGE IS ANSWERING FOR THE WITNESS AND USING THE LAW AS AN EXCUSE

  • @legallifeskills519
    @legallifeskills519 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    we need Gininda to come before the court first

  • @NthatiMotsabi
    @NthatiMotsabi ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Alton Hart can judge much better than this judge who doesn't even know his position in court

    • @Eishjo45
      @Eishjo45 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My dear professor of law. Please 🙏kindly explain to us who don't know what his role in court entails. Please your vast knowledge to educate us. I thank you😊

    • @PrincessMchunu-xh2iq
      @PrincessMchunu-xh2iq ปีที่แล้ว +7

      My concern is when he become sarcastic when responding or talking to the defence advocates...

    • @kingkony6252
      @kingkony6252 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      These lawyers are like the public. It's like they don't know criminals lie. These are just court room games and a waste of time. Those guys confessed now they are trying to deny it. We want justice

    • @nomhlezondo4819
      @nomhlezondo4819 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Even if they coerced to confess..does that mean it’s okay..

    • @Eishjo45
      @Eishjo45 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @kingkony6252 You're are in a minority with the smart people who can see through all the bullshit (sorry, I don't know a stronger word). To think they're actually colluding with well known hitmen to ensure that those confessions never see the light of day is a disgrace. As for Elto Hart,he's merely adding fuel to the fire of the glut of conspiracy theories around this case.

  • @keikantsengjoan9614
    @keikantsengjoan9614 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Elton can elaborate this agument accurately, the witnesses are not telling same story

  • @sylvesternkomo9398
    @sylvesternkomo9398 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I've said it many times this prosecutor doubles up as counsel for witnesses and that's wrong

  • @somnandizwidetv
    @somnandizwidetv ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So why was the trouser not left in the house then ???? what a lie by these police

    • @samuelmogashane2988
      @samuelmogashane2988 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He says the trouser was taken by police from him till today. So it might be true that should have given him the trouser back soiled as it was, was gonna be exibit that he was tortured until he messed himself up. So the exibit has to disappear allegedly

  • @somnandizwidetv
    @somnandizwidetv ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Corrupt police i m shocked this Gininda is about to pay very soon

  • @octaviantombzodwatshabalal4531
    @octaviantombzodwatshabalal4531 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This case is a mess ,Watch Daily Maverick and the shenanigans these cops were doing years back up to now same pattern. What the did to Teffo they did to Makhubu. The stealing of the statements from dockets its daily bread kulamaphoyisa. This Mugula is a lie just like Zungu ,the contradictions inganekwane

    • @sarahmelodingvirginia2043
      @sarahmelodingvirginia2043 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And NOW the witnesses they kill them these GANG LEAD BY gininda 💔💔💔 IT IS NOT ONLY THIS CASE OF S.R.MEYIWA
      I SAW ANOTHER 2CASES AROUND EKURULENI (that couple and widower ) AND THE CÀSES ARE AGAINST POLICE (torturing like the case of 636😓💔 ) they know exactly nothing will happen
      THEY ARE ABOVE THE LAW

  • @Wele1210
    @Wele1210 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    If Sgt “my lot” is really mamfundisi then I pity her congregation because she is changing the bible to lies and preaches to the gullible followers

    • @sarahmelodingvirginia2043
      @sarahmelodingvirginia2043 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ai ai ai that LADY can talk
      SHE is tricks
      She is living tricky life
      She have no human sympathy
      SHE HAVE an INFERIORITY COMPLEX
      WHEN SHE WANT TO DO an EVIL she DOESN'T SLEEP 🐍🦉

  • @RosinaMoruane
    @RosinaMoruane ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love Mr Hart he is so honest

  • @willie2036
    @willie2036 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    All these incarcerated pipo are not guilty of having killed Senzo.SA is a failed state in terms of Justice

  • @cyrilbaloyi1668
    @cyrilbaloyi1668 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Today I can agree with most of misleaders to say sgt Mogano lies to say sgt Mogane was at the Phokeng police station when he arrives there. She is not telling the truth and it seems judge Ratha want to agree with her.

  • @portiamaleshoane3425
    @portiamaleshoane3425 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Can all of you who are saying this people are the ones who killed senzo" tell me without confession what is the evidence state have so that we can say state has a prove?

    • @matebellojoang4094
      @matebellojoang4094 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing

    • @matebellojoang4094
      @matebellojoang4094 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Baloyi is relying on the confections nothing else

    • @BeeKay542
      @BeeKay542 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bullet case from gun not seen by eye witness in house. CZ pistol allegedly found in black plastic bags in acc house. When eyewitness says revolver. Hoodies in acc wardrobe. Police uncle who overhead conversation btwn accused at party in a hostel after the murder. Inyanga who performed a cleansing ritual. Also confessions

    • @portiamaleshoane3425
      @portiamaleshoane3425 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BeeKay542 I don't think you follow this case cause if you listened to zungu you can hear that he's been lying and the bullet was never there.

    • @portiamaleshoane3425
      @portiamaleshoane3425 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BeeKay542 and the police didn't find any hood

  • @chukuannah3835
    @chukuannah3835 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Elton hard u are the best ever with the law u deserve every u are honest baloi received brown envelope

  • @ThoboSenior
    @ThoboSenior ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So Ntanzi is already out of the planted live rounds as per the concession of this witness…. What bearing does that have on this trial..

  • @Mavb3AtzSmyth13
    @Mavb3AtzSmyth13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Confessions made willingly by accused persons, right⁉️ So why JMPD officers & SAPS officers team up to take a confession⁉️ If it is made freely and willingly. How come someone who's arrested with unlicensed fire ammunition with a different case docket be linked with Meyiwa few hours after their arrest⁉️ Pocket books are missing, AVL reports telling a different story, Zungu didn't adhere to the court order to go fetch written notes/scripts after confirming he has them

    • @SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
      @SylviaMitchell-tz2sl ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree 💯👍 too many questions and very little answers...it's lies all the way... SAPS hibo

  • @welter_3
    @welter_3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The witnesses are the people who were in the house

  • @NQA1209
    @NQA1209 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In South Africa, a witness has to have a photographic memory in order to be reliable, which is nonsensical

    • @MaefoMawela
      @MaefoMawela ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes you have to remember if indeed what you saying is true

    • @Eishjo45
      @Eishjo45 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really. It's only when it comes to the side the public is against. Like the prosecution in the present.

    • @ziblospo
      @ziblospo ปีที่แล้ว +5

      But they expect the accused to remember things 6 years ago😅😅

  • @Ngcwina
    @Ngcwina ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Akaxoki lesi sifebe

  • @elizabethmokoena8533
    @elizabethmokoena8533 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The shoes he ask to change were they also mased

  • @bongumusamusa-up7rx
    @bongumusamusa-up7rx ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mr Hart always analyze as a lawyer of the accused, then someone who wil analyze in flavor of the state.

    • @victorvertuin3942
      @victorvertuin3942 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      No my friend everyone can see nd hear wats going on including wat the state's shenanigans.

    • @jabulanigumede6951
      @jabulanigumede6951 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@victorvertuin3942some people are trying to defend the indefensible, these so called police are so untruthful it's shameful to even call them police.

    • @sarahmelodingvirginia2043
      @sarahmelodingvirginia2043 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@victorvertuin3942
      Even a dog knows WHO KILL SENZO

    • @victorvertuin3942
      @victorvertuin3942 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sarahmelodingvirginia2043 100% true we all know who is the killer of Senzo the evidence has always been der.

    • @mawethumbusi
      @mawethumbusi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I disagree he speaks on context of what wirneses are saying this trial in a trial is full of lies

  • @vincentnyembe
    @vincentnyembe ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Am sure Gininda or Zungu r wearing that kak stinking Brentwood

  • @MolahlehiJoseph
    @MolahlehiJoseph ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Sometime you try to do a job, sometime you put you self in trouble 😮

  • @nkululekomasilonkululeko4426
    @nkululekomasilonkululeko4426 ปีที่แล้ว

    where is the Law Society when a PP is denying the documents?

  • @lungelomnguni2870
    @lungelomnguni2870 ปีที่แล้ว

    Elton hart the legal expert who don't go side to side who straight to the truth

  • @irenekhumalo-lx3sp
    @irenekhumalo-lx3sp ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mina ngicela amaclips kaSfiso

  • @nokubongamaphalla7166
    @nokubongamaphalla7166 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This witness is also cross exemining the defence 😂

  • @cyrilbaloyi1668
    @cyrilbaloyi1668 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If the first accused he messed himself up after assault and sgt Mogolo took his messed up trouser can this be a true?

    • @portiamaleshoane3425
      @portiamaleshoane3425 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes it can be true to destroy the evidence cause if the accused was to tell the law to go and look for a trouser it will show that he was touched until he messed up, that why they took the it

    • @SylviaMitchell-tz2sl
      @SylviaMitchell-tz2sl ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes and they destroyed the evidence.

  • @cyrilbaloyi1668
    @cyrilbaloyi1668 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree with you

  • @nthabibotsi9855
    @nthabibotsi9855 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lies have short legs😢 BUT in this judge court, seems liike this witness are credible.

  • @Sticknbkid
    @Sticknbkid ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why this man is less and less invited to do these analysis. He has no filter. He tells the truth and some don't like it. Some analysts would be dancing around with all the fancy English words that don't ish.

  • @mxobhungane143
    @mxobhungane143 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sisekakeni bahlali judge prosecutor

  • @awakeningtv8545
    @awakeningtv8545 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Elton did not follow the case fully.

  • @malosemokwena9719
    @malosemokwena9719 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy us damn biased. He crushes everything the state say. He is not helping us, is he the only analyst at newsafrika. It seems he liked by this station.

    • @kennethMulaudzi
      @kennethMulaudzi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so according to you Tsibinki what must he say to suit your narrative

    • @NthatiMotsabi
      @NthatiMotsabi ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@kennethMulaudzihe wants him to be like that judge called Ratha

  • @fezekagojela8731
    @fezekagojela8731 ปีที่แล้ว

    bae booi mnxm listen is skilled

  • @monicanhlanhla
    @monicanhlanhla ปีที่แล้ว

    375

  • @botumileseleke2712
    @botumileseleke2712 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ooooh this Elton is immune to the state , he will oppose everything that comes from prosecution....

    • @Wele1210
      @Wele1210 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Elton can see that the judge is biased, he is supposed 😷and listen not to answer and guide the witnesses

    • @NthatiMotsabi
      @NthatiMotsabi ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Even the judge is immune to the defense team to an extent of judge being a witness and a prosecutor

    • @kiki_blackie
      @kiki_blackie ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it is obvious now that everyone in the country is in favour of the 5accused

    • @prosperk6444
      @prosperk6444 ปีที่แล้ว

      But Elton is saying the truth only can see otherwise

  • @velimasuku8808
    @velimasuku8808 ปีที่แล้ว

    This whole case wreaks of misconduct 😂

  • @jacintaitumo5571
    @jacintaitumo5571 ปีที่แล้ว

    If we expect human beings to remember 100% of events that took place years back then we are wrong. Expect some discrepancies. It's human nature.

    • @Olcool
      @Olcool ปีที่แล้ว +9

      they can remember what suits them and forget what the defence is asking for

    • @NthatiMotsabi
      @NthatiMotsabi ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And they expect accused to remember what happened six years ago failure to do that then the accused will find him/herself in prison

    • @victorvertuin3942
      @victorvertuin3942 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      U dnt forget the truth

    • @JaneDoe76664
      @JaneDoe76664 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The truth does Not change... You forget the lies.... Over time.

    • @victorvertuin3942
      @victorvertuin3942 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JaneDoe76664 brilliantly said

  • @cyrilbaloyi1668
    @cyrilbaloyi1668 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should remember AVL locked it doesn't mean the vehicle stopped but meant that there is no reception in that area which it is why even when they came back the very same sport of about 15 minutes it shows AVL locked not stopped.. your analyst are totally biased.

    • @juniormaila6712
      @juniormaila6712 ปีที่แล้ว

      😂 u r biased go back to the evidence n listen there's stops n there's locked

    • @NthatiMotsabi
      @NthatiMotsabi ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@juniormaila6712he must listen again to Dupree,he said GPS locked means the is no signal

  • @baebooi5885
    @baebooi5885 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This channel and the coloured guy so called legal expert are very biased! What about Ntanzi’s lies? His different versions?.

    • @gladysmkhize4085
      @gladysmkhize4085 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes this guy is looking on one side

    • @TshepoMaake-lm1vb
      @TshepoMaake-lm1vb ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Which lie did ntanzi lied?

    • @NthatiMotsabi
      @NthatiMotsabi ปีที่แล้ว

      Ntanzi never lied but state witnesses are the ones lying and contradicting each other

    • @kiki_blackie
      @kiki_blackie ปีที่แล้ว

      I totally agree with you

    • @nkosikhangelemzilikazi1637
      @nkosikhangelemzilikazi1637 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ntanzi's different versions, have you ever heard contrast in his version of events, or you're just going by whatever you heard some people on your circle say, can you truly mention those?

  • @jabulisiwemchunu5180
    @jabulisiwemchunu5180 ปีที่แล้ว

    kushukuthi amaphoyisa ahamba no brentwood onalokho ayezokwenzani?Ngabe abasile?Izicathulo zona zazishintshelwani? uNamanga uSbiya no Ntanzi kuyasho ukuthi izigebengu ezindala🙄😐