Msho! So cute the real cuteness of an African woman loading + brains. You make us proud . You are the best role model our African girl children should be exposed to. Not the spaza shop riff ruffles
@bysisuwekalemba6044 .. do not be blinded by beauty,cuteness and race issues ... facts .. facts and facts is what matters .... your beauty could fall into a deadly trap ... you can see how Mshololo is trying to let Kinindja loose to prove he's not injured .... letting Kinindja off to check whether the pictures depict George Koch hostel or Basotho Vosloorus hostel ... can you really believe that ? Kinindja of all people ... be allowed to go and better his version on pictures .. oh! ....don't allow Kinindja out any corner...just box him hard sothat his owner should come out ... cute and race aside. Also should make Kinindja admit that the investigative task team never worked together in this case ... not assist him to even say they worked together for whatever number of months!!!!!!
Gininda's emotional intelligence cannot be challenged and disputed. If it was other witmess he/she would have lost his temper and leave the court because defense's behavior sometimes is very inappropriate
Wow. Btig Gininda is on another level. The way he is presenting himself. 2:51"How do you trust the information given by a police officer who has been sittinf with information since 2014......""Its not a question of trust, its about investigating the information he is giving you to go to the truth.... 'i am promoting you to be the minister of police /justice whatever it is. 🙌🙌🙌
But interestingly it was a question of trust when he decided not to bring in Kelly's mother for an ID parade of the accused since she had already pointed out a wrong person (i.e. he didn't trust her anymore). So, it's a question of trust when it suits Gininda and his narrative: when it doesn't fit his narrative, it's not a question of trust. Makes you think, doesn't it?
GININDA SAYS AN INVESTIGATOR CANNOT DISMISS EVIDENCE BUT HE DISMISSED EVIDENCE OF CONSTABLE DLAMINI WHO SAID A BULLET CATRIDGE WAS TAKEN IN THE CRIME SCENE AND HE DISMISSED A WITNESS WHO SAID THE KILLER WAS SOME GUY WHO WANTED DAGGA. WHO SAID MAKHUBO DIDNT HAVE EVIDENCE ?
The risk of asking an open question is that the answer may go further than you wanted it to go Framing a question during cross examination is a skill that does not come as easily. "Stop right there!" is not so helpful when the respondent gives you a long version of their answer..
Because the might Gininja didnt do any investigations bet relied on statements provided... A whole lead investigator who is able to tell the court that he wasn't in court when burning issues relating to witnesses that provided him with statements are asked to him as the IO😢
But Brig was intelligent in answering Adv Mshololo when she was putting to her that she would be asking him questions and not Brig asking her. I love the way Gininda answered her by emphasizing that he may ask for clarity otherwise he might answear wrongly. Keep it up Brig, never b swayed by the defence cause their duty is to protect criminals
He didn't forget he said brother inlaw's evidence is hearsay, and all he needed was Tumelo to confirm it, but ke he denied it and did again touch base on Sefularo's evidence that Mangena took nothing from the scene as Sap13 shows those projectiles booked in by LCRC .He called those claims baseless and explained cartridge and bullet not found in one place ect .Allegedly
@reginahmutewera5563 section 205 of Tumelo are there, and they prove that he called Sifiso Meyiwa, not Hlophe .Tumelo says he never told Sifiso that Senzo got shot by mistake, but he said "kudubuleke uSenzo" when they were fighting the intruders I boyfriend ka Zandi pushed them so there was a fight .If people walked in and shot Senzo, he was going to say "badubule uSenzo ".The friends zika Senzo were made to believe it was a robbery gone wrong and they blamed Longwe because he didn't cooperate little did they know that it was planned there's nothing these 2 friends could've done kelly ordered the hit .She explained her Asine song to Robert Marawa live and look at what's happening today .She premeditated this murder .Allegedly
@reginahmutewera5563 they were not read though the record but they've been submitted through 220 submission neither the state nor the defense find it necessary .What Hlophe heard from Tumelo is not evidence. DOWNLOADS+ FROM ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE HOUSE WERE DONE AND ONLY LINKS WERE KK,Longwe and accused 3.Accused 5 communicated with kk no one else from the people that were in the house communicated or had links with these guys .allegedly
Partriachy is rive even in the legal fraternity The Judge is hard on Adv. Mshololo and always undermines her, compared to the male counsel. Go Mshololo go..we are with you. Do not ever doubt your gifting and purpose. You are doing extremely well
Thank you,Adv Mshololo. For clarifying the issue of weakness, not allowed to come to court and hear other testifying. It's disturbing to see that occurring. And the court doesn't say anything as it's busy sorting collaboration with the state
I can see Mshololo fans are busy praising her lools instead of looking at her questioning line...Her coligues were called the best lawyers in the planet.
It's funny how Gininda keeps on saying there is evidence that places suspects ebasuthu hostel while he's talking about statements which were made by his friends...😢😢😢 This guy is a liar.
Those where in the house knows everything including Kell anina nembeza ufile yhoo be strong Meyiwa family unkulunkulu uzoniphe ndulela and akaphenduli ngendlela esibonangayo unezakhe indlele inyembezi zenu azingekhe zawa njee for fun
Aba basendlini naba basenkantolo if omnye wabo angateta inyani elityala lingahambela pambili kodwa abantu ababengeko paya bamile ukuba bubuxoki. Then my question is how do we know okwesibini, do we really want the truth to be reve
Lol that means you didn't listen to the evidence of enatis expert .The only accused without a license dealings is Ntanzi.He never bought a car ,he never booked a license he just liked walking .Allegedly
@@Chibvunzayou are highly demeaning unto Ntanzi what's wrong with ntanzi walking. And he will WALK free from that prison if you care to know. Stop belittling other people!!!!
@lindiwelindiwe6109 lol with all due respect , you are dom .Ntanzi has already been convicted, 2 confessions , admission of guilt. He should've just taken the deal to be state witness and testify against his co accused.I wanna tell you straight in your face your Ntanzi is a liar he never paid lobolo for anyone ,azange ahlawule ngisho abantwana 2.Ntanzi is dom he deposited the hit money for the hit into his bank account 3x his salary uNtanzi plus that he has 10 mouths to feed he can't explain where the money came from ,but his confession tells us where he got the money ,he says he took a loan but doesn't show on the credit bureaus .So if you love him so much start putting away money for besoek e Kgosi Mampuru ngoba ngeke aphume ngisho ngembobo Ka khiya.Allegedly
We comentator must bear it in mind that someone died here, court proceedings are here get to an amicable finding as to who killed senzo and why. So criticizing the judge or state or witnesses makes no meaning to us,the only thing is u may find yourself exposing your iq. Gininda is right will always be right cos he brings evidence and supports his evidence. The case is that senzo was killed, then by whom. Those who comment are hitmen too, or are enemies of senzo or pirates. Watch their English it tells u so much.kelly is coming to jail. Keep it up gininda, yo English, iq and educational background can not be explained, distinction, infact you far better than the advocates.keep it up, don't be intimidated. You more than a cop your iq. Salute.
Personally I find the comments unhelpful most of the time. I find most commentators behave like they are watching a football match - just screaming for their idol rather than pondering on the issues raised.
Just a few days ago, Adv Nxumalo was completely unprepared. The judge had to literally assist him. In this one, Adv Mshololo seems to be more concerned with what looks like rather than what it is. The fact that the judge had to give a lesson on critical thinking. It's disappointing. Too many incorrect interpretations of the law of evidence.
It's disturbing that Mshololo wants to retain an interpreter who does not only consistently misinterprets 'police interrogation' as a 'job interview' (inhlolokhono). Apart from his questionable knowledge of IsiZulu, Jonas often doesn't interpret the Defence's questions but only interprets Gininda's answers. To me Jonas's competence is highly questionable and it beggars belief why Mshololo doesn't want him replaced on Mon and Tue 🤸♀🤸♀🤸♀
Well he is a Chief Interpreter for a reason but I think this has nothing to do with his abilities but rather Mshololo buying time for what I wouldn't guess
🤮friday strategy ba ya go tagwa matagwa ko di shebining🤣she started ka go laa putting things in order mosadi wa lelwapa wiira jalo⛔️ska ntena STOP RIGHT THERE🫷🏿 🚮niknax is nonsensial ka remarks tsa 💩💩
This case was cooked after Afri Forum was involved and there was much pressure whereby all the state shenanigans would have been exposed...So they needed a master chef like Gininda and Baloyi to save the state from embarrassment of their criminality.Big bosses knows that this is the travesty of justice.
Yes Ad. Mshololo, Gininda have tendency of long conversation which is not needed instead of be short and straight in his anwers. To me he tries to confuse ad. he is very much cleaver in cooking and win the cases
1=How those guys knew Senzo will be at Kelly's home 2=Senzo was Supposed to be at Mahamutsa's party, was Kelly knew he will agree to dodge his wife or leave the party. 3=If Kelly planned the murder , how he allowed Senzo to come with his Friends? = all those who were in the house knew what happened =
I like how mushololo kept her cool. She did her best to stay focused and not be emotional... impressive. From what I have seen of her throughout this case it's an effort for her. 🎉
This lady called Mshololo she is really bend so low for the legal aid money. What is this postponement all about. I did said Ratha is the one allowing this lawyers to make his court a creche since he has been prisiding on this case. What notes is Msho looking for? Where did she slept. Not prepared again.
2:35 Gininda says you can't dismiss what a witness inform you about yet he did dismiss Hlophe's statement claiming that Tumelo had called him immediately after the incident. He said in court that Tumelo refuted the claim hence he (Gininda) couldn't pursue the matter. According to his evidence today he was supposed have investigated Hlophe's claim by among others, obtaining a section 205 of both Hlophe and Tumelo for that specific night.
@nokuthulagloria9153 lol iqiniso laku Twitter ngoba thina saz ukuth i 375 lith "arrest people that were in the house they will talk🤣🤣🤣no investigation all that happened is they assaulted mthoko they coerced him to say he said he was not by the khumalos that day (whats app message are there as proof) unlike Ntanzi &Muzi he didn't change his story because he knows nothing .Muzi and Ntanzi sang .375 further put Tumelo in witnesses protection with a hope that he'd change his story and testify against the people that were in the house &lastly 375 took Tumelo to Senzo's grave with hopes that he'd talk lol ay 375 is whack.636 brought us 50years on the bench judge ,Giant prosecutor "Baloyi",cellphone expert ,crimescene expert ,dental expert, ballistic expert,avl expert ,dna expert, enatis expert and best leader Brig Ginanda as Ratha says .Allegedly
Is it not obvious that Gininda asked Mam has Ntuli rented a car from you in 2014? and her coming back to say I only have a record of Ntuli using my car in 2016 I cant find 2014 records for now
Brigadier Gininda is politically connected. It is very rare to grow that quick in public service if you not politically connected. That is why the public service is so f#ckedup. We fight each other instead of focusing on delivery.
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Mshololo u are the best ❤
Msho! So cute the real cuteness of an African woman loading + brains. You make us proud . You are the best role model our African girl children should be exposed to. Not the spaza shop riff ruffles
@bysisuwekalemba6044 .. do not be blinded by beauty,cuteness and race issues ... facts .. facts and facts is what matters .... your beauty could fall into a deadly trap ... you can see how Mshololo is trying to let Kinindja loose to prove he's not injured .... letting Kinindja off to check whether the pictures depict George Koch hostel or Basotho Vosloorus hostel ... can you really believe that ? Kinindja of all people ... be allowed to go and better his version on pictures .. oh! ....don't allow Kinindja out any corner...just box him hard sothat his owner should come out ... cute and race aside. Also should make Kinindja admit that the investigative task team never worked together in this case ... not assist him to even say they worked together for whatever number of months!!!!!!
I had to rewatch this, this lady is amazing😂😂❤❤
Mbokodo this Advocate💪💪💪
Queen Mshoza Gininda i wil be asking qeastions not virsa versa and plz be short if i need exaplation i will indicate💃💃💃💃💃💃💃❤❤❤❤
She is rude this woman
No no no, she's not rude. She's a strong woman aware of woman abuse😂😂😂😂😂bathathe mbokodo 🎉🎉🎉😊
@gladysmkhizcerye4085 very rude
@@gladysmkhize4085you sick
@@gladysmkhize4085 I love the rudeness in her because he does what the brig does to the defence. 1 - 1 draw😂😂😂😂
Gininda is a smart liar
Gininda's emotional intelligence cannot be challenged and disputed. If it was other witmess he/she would have lost his temper and leave the court because defense's behavior sometimes is very inappropriate
They are bored by this sweet tong and essay man mgulugudu.
Very true. And this time Mushololo tried to be calmer than usual.
If there was money from Miss KK to the accused why is she not part of the case in court?
It because the money waz not paid electronically
Did they trace her Bank to confirm the or Trace money trail?@@MthembeniAlbertNdlovu-k2b
Baloyi should answer that question.
Baloy
Brigadier of Liar
Our Mshololo 💞💖💞💖
Gininda, you're a star. ❤❤❤ here for you.
Stupid star
You dumb to think Gininda has everything under control... Mshololo is even laughing at him on the low
Always there for the state ❤❤❤❤
@@Thulani-mr1wcMshololo ppl are so emotional like her..I said this last week and here we are again😂😂
@@Thulani-mr1wclol you are dumb Mshololo doesn't have questions to ask Gininda and asked for an adjournment 😂😂😂😂. Gininda is uncontainable
Wow. Btig Gininda is on another level. The way he is presenting himself. 2:51"How do you trust the information given by a police officer who has been sittinf with information since 2014......""Its not a question of trust, its about investigating the information he is giving you to go to the truth.... 'i am promoting you to be the minister of police /justice whatever it is. 🙌🙌🙌
But interestingly it was a question of trust when he decided not to bring in Kelly's mother for an ID parade of the accused since she had already pointed out a wrong person (i.e. he didn't trust her anymore). So, it's a question of trust when it suits Gininda and his narrative: when it doesn't fit his narrative, it's not a question of trust. Makes you think, doesn't it?
He is one of the kind 🤞🏽one could see why this case was finally cracked down .i mean like no ordinary investigator was gonna crack this
@@SonOfTheSoil834Exactly like that madala Makhubu,he is very weak.
@Catch-a-fire .....very funny, hey? 😅😂
The Team work for defence is 👌👌👌👌
GININDA SAYS AN INVESTIGATOR CANNOT DISMISS EVIDENCE BUT HE DISMISSED EVIDENCE OF CONSTABLE DLAMINI WHO SAID A BULLET CATRIDGE WAS TAKEN IN THE CRIME SCENE AND HE DISMISSED A WITNESS WHO SAID THE KILLER WAS SOME GUY WHO WANTED DAGGA. WHO SAID MAKHUBO DIDNT HAVE EVIDENCE ?
You Follow thw Case indeed..
This man doesn't understand him self
you guys choose not to understand what Gininda said.
He said "you can't ask for a source to a policeman
The risk of asking an open question is that the answer may go further than you wanted it to go Framing a question during cross examination is a skill that does not come as easily. "Stop right there!" is not so helpful when the respondent gives you a long version of their answer..
GININDA ALWAYS ACT LIKE HE IS SMART HE IS HERE FORGET WHA HE SAID BEFORE
Viva queen of South Africa 🇿🇦 🎉🎉
Gininda you are not shaken 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Tsek
Very true
Well done Mshololo
mshololo you are the best but pliz tell Baloyi yo keep quit and Ratha
Basically we are relying on hearsay evidence in this whole case
Because the might Gininja didnt do any investigations bet relied on statements provided... A whole lead investigator who is able to tell the court that he wasn't in court when burning issues relating to witnesses that provided him with statements are asked to him as the IO😢
But Brig was intelligent in answering Adv Mshololo when she was putting to her that she would be asking him questions and not Brig asking her. I love the way Gininda answered her by emphasizing that he may ask for clarity otherwise he might answear wrongly. Keep it up Brig, never b swayed by the defence cause their duty is to protect criminals
Welele kanti inganekwane 😅😅
Brigadier G is brilliant indeed
😅😅😅😅 wena u must be a comedian, no skhumba nd d rest ur a jokester. I love yo hustle somahlaya of d year😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅❤❤❤
He wants room to lie... Unenkani
Well done Mshololo now we know that Zungu is protecting Kelly just like Gininda
You can see hori accused 5 is dangerous.
But calm at the same time
All of them expecially those three seating together ther you’ll even see it in their face the number of lives they have taken 🤦♂️
@@SonOfTheSoil834lol
😂😂😂😂 kodwa ngo Maphisa@@SonOfTheSoil834
Very true
Gininda is forgetting that he dismiss Senzo's brother in law evidence and the police officer saw mangena took something from the door 🚪
He didn't forget he said brother inlaw's evidence is hearsay, and all he needed was Tumelo to confirm it, but ke he denied it and did again touch base on Sefularo's evidence that Mangena took nothing from the scene as Sap13 shows those projectiles booked in by LCRC .He called those claims baseless and explained cartridge and bullet not found in one place ect .Allegedly
@Chibvunza why he did not use Tumelo 205 to prove that he never call Senzo brother in law on 26 October 2014
@reginahmutewera5563 section 205 of Tumelo are there, and they prove that he called Sifiso Meyiwa, not Hlophe .Tumelo says he never told Sifiso that Senzo got shot by mistake, but he said "kudubuleke uSenzo" when they were fighting the intruders I boyfriend ka Zandi pushed them so there was a fight .If people walked in and shot Senzo, he was going to say "badubule uSenzo ".The friends zika Senzo were made to believe it was a robbery gone wrong and they blamed Longwe because he didn't cooperate little did they know that it was planned there's nothing these 2 friends could've done kelly ordered the hit .She explained her Asine song to Robert Marawa live and look at what's happening today .She premeditated this murder .Allegedly
@Chibvunza when was Tumelo 205 was read into the record don't lie to us
@reginahmutewera5563 they were not read though the record but they've been submitted through 220 submission neither the state nor the defense find it necessary .What Hlophe heard from Tumelo is not evidence. DOWNLOADS+ FROM ALL THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THE HOUSE WERE DONE AND ONLY LINKS WERE KK,Longwe and accused 3.Accused 5 communicated with kk no one else from the people that were in the house communicated or had links with these guys .allegedly
It is very difficult to defend this accused
Partriachy is rive even in the legal fraternity The Judge is hard on Adv. Mshololo and always undermines her, compared to the male counsel. Go Mshololo go..we are with you. Do not ever doubt your gifting and purpose. You are doing extremely well
She's rude and likes challenging the judge even when she's made a ruling .She doesn't argue but shouts that's a fact.Allegedly
If you don't respect people no one will respect you either.....
Unfortunately it is all her doing...she likes being a starring this one
Msho you did very well to deal with the facts here and not hearsay what what
My home girl my favourite ❤❤❤❤
Another waste of time by the defense, and you blame the Judge.
I mean the lady had more than a week to prepare questions for Gininda n she could only ask for about 2 hours 🤔and says she misplaced her questions
He is a decorated cop indeed,by the way Kretcher was sentenced to 35yrs because of part of his evidence
Exactly Charlotte....6/12/2024
I remember that case very well
I don't trust him after this case
Undermining a witness is no sign of intelligence, especially one who is as intelligent and competent as Gininda😂😂😂
Adv Mshololo is trying to scare Brig as a state witness in her introduction
Wow our msholo🎉🎉🎉
Thank you,Adv Mshololo. For clarifying the issue of weakness, not allowed to come to court and hear other testifying. It's disturbing to see that occurring. And the court doesn't say anything as it's busy sorting collaboration with the state
I can see Mshololo fans are busy praising her lools instead of looking at her questioning line...Her coligues were called the best lawyers in the planet.
I don't like advocate Mnisi body language today and yesterday,he presents himself as someone who is defeated and disconnected.
Couldn't agree more 💯
Maybe he is realizing that his cross examination was not up to standard,but I noticed that as well
Waste of time mshololo again
and apparently they don't want a replacement prosecutor so the case might not continue on Monday n Tuesday madness if you ask me
Why ningambimbi kelly
Mshololo don't play that game Gininda is an investigator of case and there are confessions statement in front of you
It's funny how Gininda keeps on saying there is evidence that places suspects ebasuthu hostel while he's talking about statements which were made by his friends...😢😢😢
This guy is a liar.
Those where in the house knows everything including Kell anina nembeza ufile yhoo be strong Meyiwa family unkulunkulu uzoniphe ndulela and akaphenduli ngendlela esibonangayo unezakhe indlele inyembezi zenu azingekhe zawa njee for fun
Aba basendlini naba basenkantolo if omnye wabo angateta inyani elityala lingahambela pambili kodwa abantu ababengeko paya bamile ukuba bubuxoki. Then my question is how do we know okwesibini, do we really want the truth to be reve
What if Ntuli was not having a licence in 2014? Mshololo should have checked that part
Please correct me, do you hire a car from a company without drivers license?
The problem with that information, they have not yet disputed the evidence that he was hiring cars
Lol that means you didn't listen to the evidence of enatis expert .The only accused without a license dealings is Ntanzi.He never bought a car ,he never booked a license he just liked walking .Allegedly
@@Chibvunzayou are highly demeaning unto Ntanzi what's wrong with ntanzi walking. And he will WALK free from that prison if you care to know. Stop belittling other people!!!!
@lindiwelindiwe6109 lol with all due respect , you are dom .Ntanzi has already been convicted, 2 confessions , admission of guilt. He should've just taken the deal to be state witness and testify against his co accused.I wanna tell you straight in your face your Ntanzi is a liar he never paid lobolo for anyone ,azange ahlawule ngisho abantwana 2.Ntanzi is dom he deposited the hit money for the hit into his bank account 3x his salary uNtanzi plus that he has 10 mouths to feed he can't explain where the money came from ,but his confession tells us where he got the money ,he says he took a loan but doesn't show on the credit bureaus .So if you love him so much start putting away money for besoek e Kgosi Mampuru ngoba ngeke aphume ngisho ngembobo Ka khiya.Allegedly
We comentator must bear it in mind that someone died here, court proceedings are here get to an amicable finding as to who killed senzo and why. So criticizing the judge or state or witnesses makes no meaning to us,the only thing is u may find yourself exposing your iq. Gininda is right will always be right cos he brings evidence and supports his evidence. The case is that senzo was killed, then by whom. Those who comment are hitmen too, or are enemies of senzo or pirates. Watch their English it tells u so much.kelly is coming to jail. Keep it up gininda, yo English, iq and educational background can not be explained, distinction, infact you far better than the advocates.keep it up, don't be intimidated. You more than a cop your iq. Salute.
you are on point 👋
You are rite, some commentators here are disgusting
Personally I find the comments unhelpful most of the time. I find most commentators behave like they are watching a football match - just screaming for their idol rather than pondering on the issues raised.
That's true
It's very crucial that people take meds as per doctors order. Mental illness is a disease. Let d citizens b safe😮😮😮😮 yah
Brigadier knows his story. He is very intelligent. Mshololo is trying her best to confuse the Brigadier. Take a bow Brigadier Ginida👏👏 2:34:55
This case is around the bush
Judge you are bribed you must be fired your swine
Just a few days ago, Adv Nxumalo was completely unprepared. The judge had to literally assist him. In this one, Adv Mshololo seems to be more concerned with what looks like rather than what it is. The fact that the judge had to give a lesson on critical thinking. It's disappointing. Too many incorrect interpretations of the law of evidence.
Uthini??????😒😒😒
Brigadier knows his story. He is very intelligent. Mshololo is trying her best to confuse the Brigadier. Take a bow Brigadier Ginida👏👏
Gwinyinja Will be paralised
Is it necessary to insult this witness?
Nope,but the Pitbull is saving his energy for him ❤❤❤#mgo
The defense must call those two officers that they say there were no intruders
They are coming
No need to call
Uphakamsani we Sgelekeqe
They are coming.... Relax
It's disturbing that Mshololo wants to retain an interpreter who does not only consistently misinterprets 'police interrogation' as a 'job interview' (inhlolokhono). Apart from his questionable knowledge of IsiZulu, Jonas often doesn't interpret the Defence's questions but only interprets Gininda's answers. To me Jonas's competence is highly questionable and it beggars belief why Mshololo doesn't want him replaced on Mon and Tue 🤸♀🤸♀🤸♀
I think it has nothing to dp with thw interpreter, ayashisa amatekkie ka Gininda, he is not a walk in the park
Well he is a Chief Interpreter for a reason but I think this has nothing to do with his abilities but rather Mshololo buying time for what I wouldn't guess
I think mshololo was clear there was no evidence linking the accused's with the offense,i don't understand what Ratha is saying
Well this judge always threaten the defense
So biased he is...that is why a petition was once signed..for him to be removed...allegedly
Gininda 👌👌👌
🤮friday strategy ba ya go tagwa matagwa ko di shebining🤣she started ka go laa putting things in order mosadi wa lelwapa wiira jalo⛔️ska ntena STOP RIGHT THERE🫷🏿
🚮niknax is nonsensial ka remarks tsa 💩💩
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Lol true.
Kahle kahle kelly khumalo wanika bani lemali
@@NtsaraAltinaMokhudu i climbed the truth hahahah
@@MagamaFoster what about her money i am not zulu pliz
Thatha Brigadiya
Why are they choosing docket 375 over 636 😂😂😂😂😂 i give up on this case😂😂😂😂😂
Case 375 was opened because, there was evidence which was stolen by Gininda...in short he stole the statement of Senzo Meyiwa's brother in law..
Go and open your own case 636 you seem to know something
Say 636 over 375👍🏽
@@TheLan70 Don't wear Sunglasses indoors.
Mshololo trying her best stipidity questions to discredit Gininda. So far she is failing to find dirt on Gininda.
And completely failing....this witness Brig BN Gininda is rock solid...he is unshakable...6/12/2024
@Greatness528 d5 STUPID GININDA IS EXPOSED LONG TIME AGO HE IS HITMAN 😂😂
True
Wait until she finishes
Her job is not to find dirt on gininda but to discredit the fake evidence 😅
The accused could now see that the ship is sinking
Deep sinking and nobody to savit
I see most comments are from the mgulukudus
@@carolinesimayile952 why worry about comments so much?
This case SAPS vs. SAPS; maybe they should also check Pretoria (Prosecutors) vs. Johannesburg (Prosecutors)
Wht a wasted day by Mshololo😢
Take it easy Greatness...you are too harsh on her...6/12/2024
You're obviously not listening and that's okay
This case was cooked after Afri Forum was involved and there was much pressure whereby all the state shenanigans would have been exposed...So they needed a master chef like Gininda and Baloyi to save the state from embarrassment of their criminality.Big bosses knows that this is the travesty of justice.
Adv Mshololo💃💃💃❤️
Yes Ad. Mshololo, Gininda have tendency of long conversation which is not needed instead of be short and straight in his anwers. To me he tries to confuse ad. he is very much cleaver in cooking and win the cases
Brigadier Gininda outsmarted all these advocates by sticking in his answering format. They try to tell him how to reply but he doesn't bow to them.
1=How those guys knew Senzo will be at Kelly's home
2=Senzo was Supposed to be at Mahamutsa's party, was Kelly knew he will agree to dodge his wife or leave the party.
3=If Kelly planned the murder , how he allowed Senzo to come with his Friends?
= all those who were in the house knew what happened =
Gininda must be arrested
For what?
@@luckynduze1761 for nonsense investigation
Ngu tsotsi lo swine ka gininda
For properly investigating the case and get the alleged perpetrators to face justicev
Mshololo kuthiwa, You may stop. You can't say, Stop it. Iqaba ke leli
She is rude
Too much
Exhib Hh nd JJ implicates KK.as mastermind nd you did not do anything and she is not even a state witness
Mazishe😅🤣
As leading investigation....
They are lying under oath
Agreed with ɓaloyi we need to finish with this witness in January we need new witnesses
I like how mushololo kept her cool. She did her best to stay focused and not be emotional... impressive. From what I have seen of her throughout this case it's an effort for her. 🎉
She couldn't dance on Gininda's head. She knows he is able to call them to order.
Gininda forgets that he is under cross examination and speak like he is giving a national reports on tv.
You are smart Mshololo 🎉🎉🎉
This guy uyanyanyisa with his lies nxe
The source must be verified.
Amanga😢 angaka Bhuti uGininda shyme
This lady called Mshololo she is really bend so low for the legal aid money. What is this postponement all about. I did said Ratha is the one allowing this lawyers to make his court a creche since he has been prisiding on this case. What notes is Msho looking for? Where did she slept. Not prepared again.
Breath in and out, relax now😂😂😂
I did said Rara also, she did slept in court
You need to calm down 😂😂😂
@zwelimkhize3071 as hitman Gininda and crook BALOYIS do whatever they want as they are in tarven...so please don't cry 😅😅
Take a sip of water and pinch of salt
Msho! So cute the cuteness of an African woman loading + brains. You make us proud
Lazy !Lazy! Lazy !Lazy! lawyers
Legal Aid will not take top notch .....
2:35 Gininda says you can't dismiss what a witness inform you about yet he did dismiss Hlophe's statement claiming that Tumelo had called him immediately after the incident. He said in court that Tumelo refuted the claim hence he (Gininda) couldn't pursue the matter. According to his evidence today he was supposed have investigated Hlophe's claim by among others, obtaining a section 205 of both Hlophe and Tumelo for that specific night.
But Tumelo said he never did that ,
Mshololo ❤✊️
Guys tel me, wats answer "Yes no"
Mshololo uyabhedisana ❤👊
The correct process he he heee aay Gininda sharing the correct process while he never investigated Kelly Kumalo
So why did you split if they was no conflict?this guys is very dull😅
Ngaze ngamuthanda Makhubo ngingamazi uneqiniso
@nokuthulagloria9153 lol iqiniso laku Twitter ngoba thina saz ukuth i 375 lith "arrest people that were in the house they will talk🤣🤣🤣no investigation all that happened is they assaulted mthoko they coerced him to say he said he was not by the khumalos that day (whats app message are there as proof) unlike Ntanzi &Muzi he didn't change his story because he knows nothing .Muzi and Ntanzi sang .375 further put Tumelo in witnesses protection with a hope that he'd change his story and testify against the people that were in the house &lastly 375 took Tumelo to Senzo's grave with hopes that he'd talk lol ay 375 is whack.636 brought us 50years on the bench judge ,Giant prosecutor "Baloyi",cellphone expert ,crimescene expert ,dental expert, ballistic expert,avl expert ,dna expert, enatis expert and best leader Brig Ginanda as Ratha says .Allegedly
These people are lazy
Evidence of SS Zungu is hearsay from his father Absolom Zungu. Absolom should come and testify
Difficult to catch Gninda out Too sharp😂❤
Genius
Yes msho, someone will understand better than. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,!
Queen Mushololo put Gininda in order. Stop it 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
If Gininda as the I.O. cannot be provided with the source of info.for safety reasons,it means that the police officers cannot be trusted.
So clever mshololo
This JUDGE!!!
Shame it's very difficult to some questions because he was not there
Bangene Mshololo...
Who mentioned Fisokuhle to her for her to mention the hiring of 2016 because she was in request of 2014 records... 🤔
Is it not obvious that Gininda asked Mam has Ntuli rented a car from you in 2014? and her coming back to say I only have a record of Ntuli using my car in 2016 I cant find 2014 records for now
"Hhayi uzonkanta" 😂😂😂😂😂😂 hhayi u Gininda usehlule
Lol umzwile uMshololo😂😂
Brigadier knows his story. He is very intelligent. Mshololo is trying her best to confuse the Brigadier. Take a bow Brigadier Ginida👏👏 2:34:55
Brigadier Gininda is politically connected. It is very rare to grow that quick in public service if you not politically connected. That is why the public service is so f#ckedup. We fight each other instead of focusing on delivery.
But whoevet promoted him had South Africa s best interest at heart. He is rge best, the beast in law
Zandi was very Chilled today
Well done mshololo