What Happens to Men? John Quincy Adams - Childhood Trauma
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- What happens to men? John Quincy Adams - Childhood Trauma
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Books referenced:
Louisa - The Extraordinary Life Of Mrs. Adams
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JQA - American Visionary
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Abigail Adams - Witness to A Revolution
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Topics covered in this video: JOHNQUINCYADAMS, john quincy adams, john adams, abigail adams, american revolution, louisa adams, treaty of ghent, war of 1812, napoleon, weakness, selfish, psychology, healing, inner child, adulting, toxic parents, security, toxic family system, ifs, self-healing, journalling ,toxic relationships, triggers, childhood trauma, inner child, inner child work, c-ptsd, ptsd, toxic parents, narcissistic abuse, assertion, mind reading, moods, healing, abusive parents, emotional abuse, childhood ptsd, repressed memories, hypervigilance, narcissistic parents, emotionally abusive parents, child abuse, narcissistic father, childhood emotional neglect, abuse, narcissistic mother, NPD, BPD, dysfunctional family
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:05 Hypothetical Case Example Begins
16:18 Connect With Me
16:48 History and Mental Health
28:01 Hypothetical Case Example (continued)
49:37 Hypothetical Case Example - What Happens to Men?
57:50 Adam's Family Genogram
1:01:35 Hypothetical Case Example - What Happens to Men? (continued)
1:04:48 Final Thoughts
1:09:17 Outro
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As a trauma survivor, I watch a lot of your content, but this is the first video where my own profession as a historian has been relevant. All I can say is that your retention and relay of this history is super impressive. You could easily have just as well been a history professor as a therapist. Really cool.
I loved this!!! Halos me understand my own father and mother, and how it may have caused some of my own childhood emotional neglect.
Omg same here!!😮😊 I'm a historian as well and I'm currently doing my Master Thesis on John Adams!!
It's interesting, as a childhood trauma survivor, from an alcoholic family, descendants of John Quincy Adams! 😊👋
Right, therapy with a story. That actually makes sense, clearly.
Cool to hear that from an actual historian b/c I was wondering……
Wow!! I, Payson Louisa Adams, am a direct descendent of John/John Quincy Adams - Daughter of the American Revolution (DAR) growing up in Connecticut, surrounded by other descendents of the Founding Families.
Your description of this guy could have been describing my father William Barker Adams, minus the fluent French!! WHAT a fabulous gift to examine my Inter-Generational trauma by! Sticking to his guns based on principles, rigid and moralistic is my father to a T.... I sure don't feel so singular and alone! Thank You!
Thank you!
What a gift to stumble on! :)
JQ Adams, your forefather, is my favorite president. I found the historical breakdown of his trauma fascinating. Also interesting to know that you are able to identify additional generational trauma threads with recent history.
It’s okay I’m related to two presidents! Yes, my life was was different too, I now know I’m not alone. Yes, there’s a lot to tell.
Robinson/Robison DAR
Margaret Adams is my 5th Great Grandmother.
37:31-37:39 "Just because something is culturally common and era specific at the time, doesn't mean it's not damaging". I keep telling myself something similar when I get into "was it really that bad" spirals. Just because something is common, doesn't make it right, normal, or healthy. Just because it's common doesn't mean it's not damaging.
Your right I am related to well know people and let’s just say the apple didn’t fall from the try historically for more the a few generations and not in a good way.
So true ,and thank you for stating those things so adeptly.
MoonstarGem1, oh I see, you were repeating what CCF said. I think I missed hearing it: so I'm glad you wrote it.
One thing people said to account for is that while certain things may have seemed harder in the past by our standards, people of the past were far more resilient. Are the longest time scales comfort and convenience, except in the very rarest of circumstances, always breeds people who are less capable of dealing with life's hardships.
Such as porn!
PLEASE do more of these! I already enjoy your analyses of human behavior, but to bring a new set of eyes to history as well is just very cool and something I haven't seen before.
I absolutely agree. History is chalk full of people who made a mark, good or bad. It adds so much more than whatever one paragraph most of our teachers shoved at us. Unless you dig deeper into the the person, not the story. When that happens, for me at least, the historical moment then becomes so much more relevant. When history ‘comes alive’. Growing up in that area, many people find comfort and life hacks that still apply today. Good, Bad, & the Grey.
Bonus: It also helps you at trivia games. Most people remember people far easier than a meaningless factoid. With that comes the answer to any question thrown your way, very likely it’ll be right. Simply because you now know the person, not the mythos. So remembering exactly where they were that year becomes a lot easier, as you know exactly where they were because of how upset/happy you remembered that person was & why.
Hearing the emotions and the facts just put that info into two very different sections of the brain. One of the two will remind the other..
And you’ll look like a genius.
I second the motion! Please share the historical aspect as well!
Yes!, please. I love Hx also. (Live 18 mi from Williamsburg VA.)
Yes please!
Please do more of these. So educational and entertaining. I think the Roosevelts would be a great learning tool. Thank you for everything you do to set us free from the ghosts of our childhood pain.
Fascinatiing how you envision John Quincy Adams. I'm a good bit older than you, I grew up before men were expected to be involved in a caretaking sense with their children, particularly when they were young. Certainly they might not be closely involved with their grandchildren. Women were consigned to the role of managing the household, cleaning, cooking, laundry etc and hands-on care of the children. Only single women were able to have a career, and they would choose school teacher, nurse or secretary. The expectation for the husbands and fathers was achievement outside the home in the role of provider. Both of these stereotypes were even more rigid in the 18th and 19th Centuries. And in those centuries, there were so many deaths around everyone from so many causes. Girls were taught to embroider samplers which mentioned that death could take them at anytime. Both girls and boys were praying at bedtime, "If I should die before I wake I pray the Lord my soul to take". Couples were lucky if more than 50 percent of the children born to them lived to adulthood. Woman had no contraception and there was a 50 percent likelihood that in any pregnancy the mother or the infant or both would die during the pregnancy or as a result of unsanitary procedures of the attendant during the delivery.
I cannot imagine what a good mentality would be when all those threats and restrictions were the norm. Religion might provide some solace. But that is another story in reality.
Would you cite the reference for your comment about couples being lucky if 50% of their children made it to adulthood. Thank you.
I did a lot of genealogical work for several years, really I was mostly interested in how women lived in earlier times, starting with my own ancestors and then branching out to working for others. That 50% stat is one that stuck in my head but I don't remember the source, much has been written about the "weaker sex" dying young then because of the risks of pregnancy and childbirth. It is quite true however that a great many women died young as a result of complications of pregnancy or childbirth. There was no contraception, and consequently in most marriages a pregnancy occurred at intervals of 2 years or less. There was also no popular knowledge yet of the "germ theory of disease" which was based on understanding that disease is transmitted by unseen creatures called germs spreading it from one person to another.
Until the late ninteenth century sanitary practices such as handwashing and sterilizing instruments used in childbirth was unknown. There was a "disease" that is now known not to be a disease called "puerperal fever" that they thought caused the death of the mother during ir after childbirth. This was not caused by the childbirth, it was caused by germs that infected the mother during delivery due to these unsanitary practices, the result of the unclean hands, sometimes of many people, and unclean instruments such as forceps being inserted into the mother's bleeding womb during delivery. Often the infected mother died within 6 weeks of birth and her infant often died as well. There was the issue of having milk for the baby. Unpasteurized cows milk becomes infected quickly and is not a good substitute if mother's milk was not available or not sufficient. The mother may have been weakened after having had many children or simply she was frail or unhealthy at this point in her life.
There are also many complications in childbirth that now can be solved by Caesarian Section which was not done then. Or the mother and baby can be saved by antibiotics if an infection has occurred. You can see why the odds of death were so high.
In my own family lines, there have been several mother's deaths in or shortly after childbirth, sometimes followed by the ensuing death of the infant unless good urgent care and human milk happened to be available.
My paternal greatgrandfather was married four times, not due to divorce of course but because his wives died long before he did. In 1875 his first wife died shortly after delivery of her fifth child. Fortunately a woman who could take care of the baby was found and the little one survived. In 1920, my grandmother, my mother's mother, died in childbirth from eclampsia bearing her 5th child. Women can still die of eclampsia unless it is foreseen early enough to terminate the pregnancy.
Of course I think that stat of 50% of the mothers or babies or both will died of complications of pregnancy and childbirth is someone's estimate, there aren't thst many records to research, so many babies were born at home then, and there were no registered death certificates, but to me it rings true. If it is an exaggeration, it's not by much.
@@suzanneantippas8420 Around which decade did your ancestors come to this country?
@@iUnderstand When my ancestors came to what is now the US depends on which line is being looked at. My Montgomery's, Donnell's and Hamilton's came to Pennsylvania before 1730 (and probably I have other lines that did the same butI haven't researched them yet). They were part of a great migration of mostly Protestants to PA who were Scottish, Scots-Irish or from the German Duchies (there was no unified Germany at that time). These migrations lasted to the beginning of the Revolutionary War. I can see them in early Pennsylvania records but I haven't found the ships that brought them there. The Chases are another early line who arrived in Massachusetts territory in the 1600's, after the Mayflower. My French ancestors the Gillett's [sic] were Huguenots who fled France for England and then also came here in the 1600's. These immigrants were mostly homesteaders who needed land that wasn't available in Great Britain. Over the centuries, this group would spread out going from East to West and North to South as new settlements opened up. These New Englanders include my Winn, Winfrey, and Briton lines, all have Revolutionary War ancestors. My most recent migrant ancestors are Robert Burrows of Lancashire England who arrived in New York City in 1853 followed by his wife, Hannah Oldham, and their 3 year old son Alfred in 1855. Hannah died in childbirth in 1875 bearing her 5th child who survived. I have some other lines like the Bentons who came from England to the port of Charleston rather than New England before the Revolutionary War who I don't know much about.
If you're thinking my name doesn't fit, Antippas is my exhusband's last name. Why did you ask?🙂
Perfect timing for this, since my own dad ignored my 30th birthday yesterday because he’s mad at me for setting a boundary about how he can’t yell/fight with my mom around my kids.
As always, I appreciate your videos. ❤️
Wow Amanda, stand your ground. Too bad I'm not fluent in english but I can still tell you that what your are doing to end the cycle of abuse is tremendously important. Keep on and be proud of you.
My dad didn’t know I was in Mexico for a week! When I made the honor roll in High School he was ecstatic and I was surprised he knew or acknowledged it. He worked a lot. I live next door to he and my mom and they didn’t visit me.
Happy belated birthday to you. Sorry he forgot
Happy birthday.
Its strange to me that a 30 yo would think there father would even celebrate a bday ..crazy
Fascinating. Just an idea. How about one depicting what happens to women who are trapped into motherhood roles they are not prepared to fulfill well? How patriarchy and religion played a role? As always immense gratitude for all you do.❤
Why not the experience of frogs? Because this is about men and Patrick is a man. It’s not personal to you or women. Men need guidance more than women who are naturally more social and connection oriented.
@@eelfoodLies, BOTH WOMEN AND MEN need guidance and support, if not humanity falls.
@@eelfood No group of human beings is a monolith sir. Most humans have the exact same problems they just show up differently 😅🥲.
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I know the point of this video was psychoanalysis, but I just wanted to let you know that this, imo, was exceptional storytelling. Thank you for your hard work in putting this video together. It certainly gave me a lot of empathy and insights.
Omigosh! Healing us, letting us know we aren’t alone, teaching super interesting history! You’re the best, Patrick!! Thank you so much!!!
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Healing using historical figures by talking about the person as a whole, I personally find quite interesting and helpful.
Full disclosure: I’m completely biased as I grew up not very far from Quincy. But this entire family is incredibly interesting to dig into.
I’d love to see Patrick break down this very complex family and how it informed their decisions. In this case the very people who helped formed a nation.
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My father lost two sets of parents by the age of 16 so my sister snd I were warned by our mother that he was emotionally stunted but I still wish he could have expressed himself further...rest in peace dad, I forgive you
This is like two of my favourite things meshed together - mental health and history 🎉
As a fellow lover of history and diagnosed with CPTSD last summer, I thoroughly enjoyed watching this video. It sounds like a ton of work went into it and I greatly appreciate your posting it for us. Thank you, Patrick!
This is a wonderful outline of psychological challenges in history. I would also love to hear your take on coping strategies that have been lost to time. When people lived in larger multigenerational families, when it was rarely economically feasible to break away and divorce was very rare. What kind of mental fitness, relationship building strengths, tolerance and compassion do you think was more common? How did people live day to day with people they didn't always like or were just toxic? Do you think there are some relationship skills/mental fitness exercises that we could learn from today?
For those of us who are interested, and fascinated, by history, this was really fun. Combining psychology, history and imagining a psychotherapy session with John Quincy Adams (wait, was that with his father?). One might think the two subjects are like oil and water, but they are so intricately intertwined it appears invisible. This was unexpected, but made my morning start on a thought provoking note.
I like this video. It is worth emphasizing that people are much more complicated than they seem. Made me think of my own father, who was an angry man, but also an artist, a loner, a thinker, but very disconnected from others. His life, like Adams, was extremely hard in many ways, and often I was dismissive because he wasn't the great father I needed him to be. As Thoreau wrote: "The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation." He was a survivor, and a wounded soul. Looking at both the man and the father, I get a better sense of the human condition, he struggled silently with a life of hardship. I inherited a lot of that pain, but I got a lot of his goodness and talents. My takeaway from watching this is that I'd rather be grateful than bitter, of course I'll be both, but when I think of my father as a man I see myself more clearly, and more honestly.
Have you delved into your father's childhood and family history. It can give so much background to their behaviour.
I love how you talk about historical events as having an impact on Adams's mental health. This is true for most people, actually. A therapist I know said that the political divisiveness of the Trump administration and covid both created very big spikes in her own practice and in demand for counselors in general. She said the overall mental health of her pre-existing clients plummeted in both cases.
I had two different therapists through the Trump/ Covid era. Both of them told me the same thing. Huge spike in mental health issues across their practices. The first one literally went deaf and had to emergency retire. She got a strange bug and lost her hearing in Trumps 3rd year. I’m not saying direct cause and effect here but interesting none the less. I miss her
HEGELIAN DIALECTIC
It's been in effect throughout time.
Wars work too. Also famine and economic depressions.
It's planned. Follow the money.
I listen to you from time to time as I explore the notion that my issues may be in part due to childhood trauma, both direct and inherited. But hearing your evaluations in the context of the lives of real people and history is just fabulous. I wish you had a history channel. You are the best professor!
Patrick! First you analyze and heal your patients, then you heal on You Tube (the world), now you're analyzing historical figures (the dead). Clearly you've found your calling. Ambitious!
Isn’t it just amazing! A true calling realised. What a way to be able to serve in the world. 🫶🏽
The eminent historian David McCullough would be proud of you, Patrick!💫✅
Thank you for your time and putting your mind to draw together a wonderfully thoughtful, insightful and candid analysis of J Q Adams and his struggles, his family, and the era in which he lived.
I had hoped to be a teacher of American History- unfortunately after yrs of pursuing my degree PT, working & living on my own after leaving home t 17, I was diagnosed with a chronic illness that ended my college career & the possibility of any full time career or work. I retained my love of the subject, though it's been too long since reading any good history books- so this video was EXACTLY the kind of video I needed tonight! Fascinating. I was totally absorbed! even better than reading about psychology/mental health topics by themselves- very intriguing look at how cptsd/abusive family systems/ trauma affected ppl of great privilege & impressive intellect. Really , this was just so cool. I'd love more videos that combine my original passion, w/ the current focus of my life - healing from complex trauma.
If your desire to teach is still there, you could entertain the idea of doing your own TH-cam videos or podcast :) especially if you have a niche you are passionate about (such as food throughout history or certain time eras)
You may not get a lot of views but there are other people that love learning and would love to watch and it could be a good outlet for you!
I'm a family historian with abundant generational traumas and family secrets. I've had only mild push back from my family as I've tried to seek answers... they are just worried it's making me more depressed. Thanks for doing this. It was well-timed for me, and helped me feel less crazy for pursuing answers through the past. Thank you. Great job, as always. (I add my voice to the commenters who would love to hear more of these. Great content.)
I love how you used a historical person to illustrate trauma. This is extremely interesting. I’d love to hear lots more like this. Thanks!
I'm a regular viewer & also a professional historian (although I specialize in a somewhat later period in U. S. history), & I thought this was wonderful. So many people think of history as dry, boring, & irrelevant to them personally, but as you show, it's all around us, within us, & can shed light on so many disparate aspects of our lives. I thought you did a really nice job of respecting the real people & the differences of the times, while using their experiences to shed light on the present & personal. Despite your own challenging childhood you were able to connect with the history around you growing up, & I find this really heartening.
I do a lot of family history research (mine and others) and it becomes very clear trauma is carried down through the generations.
Yes! It's awesome to hear that kind of confirmation of his teachings, from someone in your profession 😄
I had two history teachers who actually broke through the barriers of my retention and relation. 7th grade SS and 10th grade U.S. History. These teachers each had an engaging storytelling ability and an evident passion for what they were teaching about, and they just knew how to relate things in the lesson plan to things in our lives or in our realm of understanding at those ages. Learning about mass production in 7th grade, we actually made an assembly line. Learning about war times and poor times, we actually were made to eat SPAM. And in 10 grade, my teacher was like a comedian, and his face reminded me of Zack Galifianakis. He did reenactments and he made things become relevant. Loved those teachers so much! Miss Gannon and Mr. Lyons
Yes, with "dry boring history" men, like my father, thought they needed to emulate these heros without the thorough understanding that Patrick brings us here. Patrick visibly presents here our true American history, passed down generations, with his admirably balanced perspective to life itself in his work.
Indeed, history & psychology have much in common, probably one reason I'm so fascinated by both subjects. An accurate analysis necessitates acknowledging that people are complex, flawed, contradictory. Yes, there are some true villains ~ in our families & in historical narratives ~ & many unforgivable things may have been done, but any simple, black-&-white conclusion, without consideration of cause & effect , is bound to distort the reality & get in the way of true understanding.
It's so great to recognize that in the midst of generational trauma is a history of people who have gone through similar experiences to us today! No one is alone, and we can take comfort in that as we move forward as change-makers.
My dad is a political science professor who loves John Adams and I’m named after Abigail Adams, so this was very fascinating to me. I also love how compassionate you are with your observations, because I see these problematic and generational “habits” in my family and in the historical family’s that we idolize and find that it’s easy to just blame one person, when really it is much more complicated than that. Thanks for this video and I’d love to see more like it!
I was raised very familiar with PARTS of this story. I am related to John Adams and John Quincy Adams on my mother’s side. It’s interesting learning about the generational trauma that indeed was passed down! Also, the unknown illness Louisa had, with the fainting and fatigue is something I deal with (POTS and EDS). This video was SO interesting and really made a LOT of sense!!
Loved it! I’m originally from Europe and went to college to study History but I wasn’t exposed to a lot of American history. The historian in me loved this video.
American history is the most interesting IMHO bc we have cowboys & the pony express & everyone else doesn't so
That was amazing! I love history!!! I also related to a bunch of it. One being that my mom in particular thought of us kids as bad kids. I remember being close by in the church library (she was the librarian) & over-hearing her talk with a friend of the family. She was saying how awful we (my siblings & I) were. I remember the family friend being incredulous with her and telling her that she had no idea what a bad kid was. He talked of the things we were doing. How other parents have this and that to deal with….that we were not doing these things. 2 things stood out to me about that……1) someone thought I was a good kid……2) that it just wasn’t me, that she thought that way about my older sister and older brother (who was the ‘golden’ child, the planned child) as well. Did not hear that at home much. It was for the most part me who was picked on and abused😢. Was told I was not wanted and very specifically told by my mom that she wishes she had miscarried me (she was having some medical issues that almost caused her to have a miscarriage while pregnant with me). I did have good people around me (they had no clue what was actually happening to me at home) who showed me loving families and welcomed me in. One in particular was my Sunday afternoon sanctuary pretty much every week when I was a teenager. Such a blessing!!!!
Patrick, loved the history today….more please😂
I used to work at Peacefield and the birthplaces in Quincy, MA! You did a wonderful job depicting what life was like for the family back then and it was interesting viewing the family through the perspective of a modern day therapist. I can tell you put a lot of research and hard work into this video, well done!
This is so wonderful!! I have often speculated on how people in the past have coped, or even thrived while bearing enormous emotional wounds. I hope you do more.
Named my daughter Abigail after the First Lady... this is right up my alley!
What a great analogue. A therapy period piece. It could probably be a feature length film!
The first hour+ long TH-cam I’ve watched in quite some time.
Well done. Thank you.
Wow Patrick. This was really cool.
Thank you so much! I loved your hypothetical diagnosis as well! ❤️
This was impressive I think because it captivated my mind with a refreshing flow, your voice and insights!
Initially I wasn't sure if it had the moment today, a case study on men, and a president.
However, I found myself doing my morning routine, very there in sortof a historical film via voice. There, with JQA, there with Abigail , the brothers, the uncles, there as a diplomat, the family honor, there with upholding values, there in fears and life struggles.
Although this was a focus of JQA and even his father. The connections made with the matriarch, the wives, the sisters and daughters, spoke alot to me. How his life was shaped...how our lives with those two figures are shaped.
I'm so glad you did this because even without knowing like a true teacher, be it history, psychology or life, you are speaking to me, us to get out of our own way, do things that are different, that we have interest in, create, and not fear. So Thank you again 🙏
This was FASCINATING. I was sad to hear you don’t access history in this context often. But great job!
I have started reading Louisa and it occurs to me, Puritanism was a very pronounced influence on how QA was raised.
He coped very well with his trauma given the circumstances.
Patrick ☘️, I said in a previous post that you would make a wonderful high school teacher. Now I would add history professor to that. Very well done! I watched it twice!
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This was very interesting! I hope this can become a series because it really gave me a new perspective on people form history. It's good to see them in a more human way, like they had families and trauma and relationships, and they still managed to make a difference. Great video!
Love this. The channel Cinema Therapy does this with movies. Therapizing interesting historical figures is a great idea! There's the historical fiction genre, why not historical therapy? 👍😁
Fantastic video as always. As a huge history buff seeing John Quincy Adams in the thumbnail and the topic alone, I was already on board.
However I find myself wondering yet again how often we may have crossed paths, unknowingly. Not trying to make a false connection.
More the Bostonian in me finding the dark humor in the places we clearly visited, deep knowledge, started via location, and a deep, thought out, ‘What If’.
This is so informational. It's easier to see the dysfunction from a distance and then bring it home to me.
Well, there's a new netflix series, 'The time traveler's therapy patient'
I just wanted to pop by here today Patrick, on your most recent video in the hope that you see this comment, to say how grateful I am and no doubt thousands of others are, that you are here on this planet. I have been on another TH-cam channel and seen a comment from a young person about his abuse and trauma and feelings of how he can even cope being here, and wherever I can, I'm sending people to your channel because I think you may be literally saving lives. May you too be at peace Patrick, and may you be well. God Bless you and everyone reading this today.
Love this! Also, like Patrick, I find learning history has an incredibly connecting, humanizing effect as well. As well as just being so darn interesting!
As a professional historian, this was fantastic! And, yes, studying history helps with perspective on the state of the world. When our own personal history doesn't overwhelm us, anyway. Thank you for all you do. 🤗
I hope you keep doing videos like this! I've seen a lot of TH-cam therapists use pop culture to talk about stuff like this but not history and never this in-depth.
I loved this! Thanks for sharing. Really cool to combine history, politics, and psychology. Plus very interesting how your own life was interwoven with the Adams family. And on a personal note, I was reminded of my own childhood abandonment issues. As a missionary kid, I felt so guilty wanting my parents' time because i felt their work for God must be more important than me. Also relate to JQA's travel at a young age and "representing" the family and their beliefs. And perfectionism and the "must produce" mentality. Very insightful and just plain fun! Thanks, Patrick. I hope you do more like this, even if they are not from your home town.
Loved that! What a refreshing perspective to track patterns in lives of historical figures and see how those pass through the generations.
Things that jumped out to me:
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An 11 year old kid BY HIMSELF stuck on a 6 week voyage back home by ship.
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15 pregnancies and 9 miscarriages
Wow… really enjoyed this and YES
parentification
triangulation
abandonment
alcoholism suicide pain repression
Labor of kids age 10
It really is true kids were little adults and it’s why I’m grateful I was allowed to do so many things on my own
Not to be condescending but we really do baby our babies a lot longer these days and I’m not certain we haven’t overcorrected
I suppose there will be “hypothetical therapy sessions” 100 years from now trying to provide some context.
Thanks for doing this.
AND the title isn’t clickbait. Really appreciate that.
Fascinating! I could listen to an entire series. Thank you.
imagine a tchaikovsky one, or a machado de assis or a virginia woolf episode
idk why i turned to writers but the possibilities get me fired up lol. This was a great video
Patrick you are true hero. Real life. No Hollywood fantasy.
I loved every minute of this! I grew up in Braintree, then lived on Quincy center for 16 years. I am in Plymouth now.
Your hypothetical adds such an important layer to our history. Thank you
I saw this live, but didn't get a chance to comment. This was such a special treat! Loved it! Thanks!
Found this to be so interesting. I too am a descendant of John Adams. My mother was an Adams and the things you have described have added so much depth to the way I see her.and I understand her so much better. Thanks for passing on all of this knowledge.
Well I just love this! It blends 2 of my favorite things history and mental health topics! I'd love to hear more of these.
Love this video - my husband's family was very similar to John Quincy Adams..sadly my husband was a very talented physician who had a very dysfunctional enmeshed family sadly passed from alcoholism in January 2023....very valuable information for me as I grieve and heal. Thank you
Patrick.
I am a descendant of John Adams and John Quincy Adams! Only eight generations back ☺️ I love your channel and it was super fun to see this. Thank you for what you do! Side note, my dad was a very ill equipped father and I have strong suspicion he was undiagnosed on the autism spectrum. His brother has ASD and then my son was diagnosed ASD. Can you speak on having a neurodivergent parent without knowing it? It has been a challenge to separate his struggles from my identity and feeling like I’m the problem. Now I see he was struggling and it wasn’t me.
Oh my gosh I absolutely LOVED this episode. I would literally watch ANY of these with historical figures, this was just absolutely wonderful psychological archaeology or historical psychology (not sure if there is a term for this exactly) but this is just so absolutely interesting. Thank you from a history nerd who also is interested in mental health. This kind of surgical evaluation of generational trauma is -- (like you said around 15ish minutes somewhere) -- like peeling back the onions to get closer to understanding these continued (and compounded) psychological damages and that is such a unique perspective. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and expertise with this! (edited for clarity. ty!)
Fascinating. Please do more of these types of historical context videos. Loved it
I am so glad I found your channel. It really dives deep into the things I'm currently studying. I hope to have my license one day and specialize in addiction recovery, and foster care counseling. My heart is engulfed in helping people before and after thier hardships. My focus on preventing these behaviors before they happen. We need to save the kids, BEFORE they choose a bad path
Thank you for this. I just finished reading The Adams Chronicles section about John Quincy's life. I am a Texan, but I have been drawn to the stories of the Adams family (no, not THAT one!) as far back as I can remember. When I finally got to visit Massachusetts, Quincy was on my "must see" list.
More please! Patrick you are sooo multi talented & such a wonderful storyteller & teacher!
👏👏👏History & psychology are two of my faves & MAGIC together 🤩
This perspective is fantastic 💝
You're a gifted storyteller with profound emotional insights.
Love this! Thank you, Patrick.
Trauma is trauma, regardless of the time period or socioeconomic status. Thank goodness for therapy and Dr Tehan! Now we can move be forward with compassion ❤️
Oh… another observation.
At some point I remember thinking: wow… this is great storytelling… similar to Malcolm Gladwell.
In other words… please be inspired to give this as a TED Talk.
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Patrick this is such an unexpected gift! Please do more of these. May I suggest videos about Eleanor Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln?
Great subject suggestions. I heartily second both! PlEase, Patrick - Do more of these. This is ABSOLUTELY PRICELESS work! Thank you 💜
I really like Lincoln he seems to have been wearing the weight of the world on his shoulders. His ability to do what no one else could do and tackle slavery at the risk of the Union. It’s amazing to me, so much respect for both Abe and Mary.
My 7th great grandfather Arthur Middleton signed the declaration of independence. I imagine he walked and talked with these men and it blows my mind.
Greetings from Cape Cod, MA. Just finished reading the Ethan Allan Biography so this fits nicely
This was FASCINATING! I recently had the privilege of visiting Washington D.C., which I’m sure you’ve been several times, given your location, but being from Alaska, I had never been before. I went to Mt. Vernon and learned about George Washington, it was one of the highlights of the trip. Just fascinating stuff! Thank you for this. I thoroughly enjoyed this style of video. I love learning about U.S. president/history AND CPTSD. Who would have thought those things would go together so well ❤️
I LOVED this! I am a massive fan of the Adams. It started when David McCullough's book came out. I completely understand Luisa's feeling of comfort she derived from her father in law later in his life. Reading that first book, i felt as if i had gained a grandfather i actually loved. Frustrating warts and all.
Your interpretation of their lives seemed spot on and was completely fascinating. Are you up for the Roosevelts next? 😀
Thank you so much for this. I gained so much insight and understanding.
Absolutely fascinating! I was somewhat familiar with the Adamses from the HBO series, but I learned a lot here. Also teared up a bit when you talked about what history means to you. TE Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia) would be another good hypothetical case study to look at... I'd recommend the biography A Prince of Our Disorder by psychiatrist John E Mack.
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Just read NY Times review. Sounds like it's slow in parts
this guy is so good, amazing content. We're living in a different paradigm of healing and trauma awareness these days. It's a totally different world now. Healing knowledge for all.
Fascinating! I, too, am a history buff, probably since growing up just outside of Boston. Please do more!
“Progress is happening but progress is slow” @Patrick Teahan LICSW I think that even thinking about the history and the future of mental health is not even considered by most. When I hear this from you I know that you are not only in this for yourself and your children but for the good of humanity.
Please do more of these. I could listen all day.
Wow. The problems in the Adams family as a whole and with the individuals is so resonant, particularly the "living in survivor mode", the New England wintery distance between people and their emotions, as a child having a role to fulfill instead of a life to figure out, and the priority on public service and work. work. work. being the go-to solution to all difficulty. (and all that can be done on a very low-budget scheme, you don't have to be rich to have those problems.)
By the time we get to a place of greater understanding, it seems impossible to reach out to our children and attempt to right some of what went wrong, and that is a deep regret.
LOVE this video. I too got calmness and comfort from studying history. Adding current trauma-informed insights are excellent.
What a creative genius we have here. Dr. Ramani - just beats her drum non stop. Anna Runkle - Uses her success story as a way to root for AA recovery for non AA folks, and is the wind beneath Pete Walker's wings more than any other content creator. Dr. Les Carter is there for an aww-shucks trip to Team Healthy, and then there's Tim Fletcher who gives 20 ted talks worth of lectures on re-parenting every Friday night. Patrick finds a new way for us survivors to pull at our inner child's heart strings, and blow dust off our repressed trauma in a meaningful way that stands out of the crowd!
This is amazing. I get the same thing from learning about history as you mentioned, I find it really comforting. It also takes me out of the narrow lens of my own (boring) life. Human history is wild.
Perfect timing for this video! Thank you for making it.
LOVE this format. I have always loved American history and so this has been extra fascinating to learn more about the Adams family. I have ancestors on one side of my family that were signers of the Declaration of Independence (not the Adams,but other signers) and this insight into what their lives might have been like is especially wonderful. Fantastic job on your research (I felt like I was in a college history class), and bringing in the childhood trauma aspect helps my mind connect things and keep my inner adult in the drivers seat all the more. Please do more of these historical videos. You are so gifted, I’m so thankful for all the work you do in making the world a better place!
I just hit the 29 minute mark, and You talk about Quincy dropping off letters for you to read. I've often thought about sending my therapist an email, albeit a long one, so they would have fundamental information that may get lost or overlooked in therapy. Is that a bad idea?
Yes. It’s a hypothetical in the video but a boundary issue in real therapy life.
@@patrickteahanofficial Thank you for the follow up. Can you explain how that may be a boundary issue in therapy? I think that sometimes I have boundary issues when it comes to sharing information, but I feel like people should be informed, especially my therapist when we only have such limited time each week. My reasoning is is that if I send them the information, they can choose better how to direct the session, since I've been to a couple of therapists and I am a terrible session leader.
Truly impressive video. I also love American History and history in general, just finished a book the letters between John Adams and Abigail Adams. Trying to get my hands on John Quincy Adams diaries, he started those at age 10! Thank you for this video! Fabulous reminder that we are all just human, no matter the time era. I lost my daughter a few years ago and I often find myself thinking about these mom and dads in the past who lost multiple children, the pain and trauma. Makes me feel not alone.
It's so great to recognize that in the midst of generational trauma is a history of people who have gone through similar experiences to us today! No one is alone, and we can take comfort in that as we move forward as change-makers. Thanks for this analysis Patrick!
I loved this video!!! How fascinating to psychologically view history. You are on to something🏆🌟🏆🌟❣️
Fascinating! Thank you for sharing!
I know this video is 2 months old but I just wanted to say thank you for such a fascinating video. Last year I read David McCullough’s biography of John Adams. I remember reading about how, at the age of 10, John Quincy Adams accompany his father on a perilous sea voyage to France. Then, when he was only 14, he accompanied Francis Dana to Russia to serve as his secretary/translator because by then, he was fluent in French. As I read these, I kept thinking about how so much was expected of JQA, especially being the oldest son (I am the oldest child so I could relate to that!) and I wondered how that affected him on a psychological level. I was glad to see that you actually delved into that. If you read David McCullough’s “John Adams” you will see that “the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree!”.
Interesting that you grew up in this very area of so much history you are passionate about. It wouldn't surprise me if you are a reincarnation of John Adams completing the circle of growth and lessons.
What a lovely episode! I was waiting patiently for your next video and I'm so glad you took your time with this. It's really interesting and impactful
How cool. I was just gifted a book about Abigail Adams at the book festival here in Tucson, and now this from you Patrick. Synchronous and speaks to my soul. Your insights are jewels l. What a treat!
Meant to be in bed 2 hours ago ~ watched this all the way through being a history / war buff.
You did a fascinating job of interpreting the players lives in the context of modern trauma based therapy.
Makes me ponder why do we say something as stupid as "be brave" to anyone facing a crisis?
Like you say break down ~ no one in the room is going to die because you didn't repress your emotions.
Sweet talk - regards
Brilliant video. Love all your content but this is over the top awesome in considering what has happened internally to historical figures. I have hope for our future because you teach people to think about behaviors and help us all learn how to heal!!!!
Patrick, this is so very fascinating!!!
Thanks for your perspective!
The historical trauma is being transmitted, and you are assisting the process.
Bless you dear!!!
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What a fascinating life story and thank you for all the details and analysis. Would love to hear more of these! :)
I LOVED this video. Please do this more. I think of this kinda thing with historical figures all the time and you obviously know your history!
Thorough and thoughtful!
You are such an engaging storyteller! I love your content. Very high quality.
As someone who loves doing passed life readings to help people heal karma as well as a childhood trauma survivor, this is absolutely AMAZING!!!
You’ve really hit it on this one! Hub and I share love of US history. I’m CPTSD myDad was WW II vet with major PTSD, who later married & had us 3 kids in his 40’s. Looking forward to tomorrow’s LIVE. We’re here in Whtm lol
This was a brilliant idea Patrick! Thank you. You are so creative. Fascinating!!!
This was so fun to watch and so compelling. I love your creativity and your story telling. Grateful🙏🏽