FOSI V3 Amp: WATTS of FUN!

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  • @MrBenherrmann
    @MrBenherrmann ปีที่แล้ว +8

    If you don't mind my chiming in here - I've long since discovered that for those Chi-Fi amps that allow for Op-Amp change outs (sort of like tube rolling, with the exception that your Op-Amp rolling), replacing the typical stock NE5532 op amps that they install with better ones, can make a world of difference.
    For example, with the V3, it has 2 changeable/replaceable Op-Amp slots. As I did with the Fosi BT20A Pro before it, I changed out the stock Op-Amps in the V3 with the absolutely gorgeous Sparkos Labs SS3602 "Discrete" dual channel Op-Amps (the V3 takes two of them). Now, right up front, both Op-Amps will cost more than the V3 itself, but the improvements in sound quality are quite noticeable - that being a smoother, fuller sound with wider sound-staging and more depth.
    Sure, there are a wealth of other Op-Amps that you can experiment with. There are two types of Op-Amp categories: 1) The most common variety found in many amplifiers and other audio components are the "IC" based types (which is what the stock NE5532 Op Amps inside the V3 are) - these are characterized by being very small and less expensive (running anywhere from $2 up to approx $40 like the MUSES02 versions). 2) The other category is the "Discrete" variety - these are typically larger (and the Sparkos Labs versions are much larger). Two of the best known and reviewed discrete manufacturers are Burson and Sparkos Labs. The Burson selections are smaller (about twice the size of the IC based versions), and the Sparkos Labs Op-Amps are larger, being some 3-4 times the size of the little IC types.
    Op Amps are very simple to change out, however, do keep in mind, you must know which end points in what direction - otherwise, you will instantaneously burn out the Op Amp and even hurt the amplifier itself if you insert them backwards. Each Op Amp has a direction indicator on it so you know how to put it in - it's that simple.
    Read up on this. All I can add is that the addition of discrete Op Amps can make a huge difference. , If you wish to stay with the smaller IC versions, I strongly recommend the approx $40 MUSES02 version. Unless you have tin ears, changing out the Op-Amps in these Chi-Fi mini amplifiers can make a world of difference.
    Sorry - just wanted to chime in here. Since the V3 is now one of the most popular selling of the Chi-Fi amps on the market, knowing how to make it even better is nice information to share.
    Ben Herrmann
    North Carolina

    • @isometrus
      @isometrus ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree. Changing Op-amps can be very useful. As mentioned in the video, V3 sounds very nice detailed and clean, but can sound a little bit bright or thin with some speakers, as was the case with my set of Mission LX-2 Plus bookshelfs. I wanted to try the Sparkos ss3602 also but they were a bit over my budget, so decided to give a try to the Burson V5i semi discrete opamps and they sound impressive to me. Now the sound is fuller, warmer, but still as detailed and clean as before. The deepness of the stage is also noticeable better. Hopefully someday I will try the ss3602 which everyone is raving about.

  • @michaelwright1602
    @michaelwright1602 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sitting here with mom... Yes, my mother. She used to sell audio gear at Sears, back in the day... She sold a lot of Bose gear... Both of us simply cracking up! You had so many one liners in there, classic! And the pillows! Keep these Saturday Morning HiFi Fun Club videos coming! What a hoot!

  • @Simon_Hawkshaw
    @Simon_Hawkshaw ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great childhood memories and a good start to the day. Love the 'HiFi Fun Club' Thanks for sharing this with us all. A great time was had 'playing' with both new and old 'stuff' by all. Take care, Sir.

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks, Simon! Maybe I should have stayed in bed. My experiment flopped😀Thanks for being a part of this community!

    • @Simon_Hawkshaw
      @Simon_Hawkshaw ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesofAnalog Don't think of it as a flop, but rather an opportunity to grow and expand our experience in fun.

    • @unstablenetwork4744
      @unstablenetwork4744 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@UnitedStatesofAnalog Not a flop Bob. Any time you dust off old gear, there is a gamble. Keep up with the concept. Love the title Hi-Fi Fun Club. Stick with it.

  • @JR-ho5qm
    @JR-ho5qm ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would be cool if a company like Fosi built a true beast of a amp. A true 300 watts for 350$ could be kinda fun! Great video!

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We can only dream! I forgot to mention that it was disconcerting to have to turn the volume to 3 or four o'clock to get punchy sound levels!

    • @jrdelat5
      @jrdelat5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a power, sir...

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jrdelat5 for sure, preamp helps that situation.

    • @Douglas_Blake_579
      @Douglas_Blake_579 ปีที่แล้ว

      FWIW .... the V3 (and just about any other TPA3255 based amp) can deliver over 100 watts rms on 8 ohms and 220 rms on 4 ohms at very low distortion, with the 48 volt power supply.
      On the stock 32 watt supply it will deliver 55 watts on 8 ohms and 90 watts on 4 ohms with less than 0.1% distortion.
      It is a "true beast of an amp" ... that it's small is even better.

    • @RanTausi
      @RanTausi ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesofAnalog Thanks for this video and keep up your good job, I have order the Fosi P3 just for fun , My system is consisting two listening system. I have the Sony STR DB830 I am using it as a pre amp to The ADCOM 545MK2 Power amp The speakers are Mint Bose 501 series 4. My second system Is ADCOM GFP 565 Preamp and ADCOM GFA 555 MK2 Power amp which I have bought two years ago it was new never used one. We did had Fun I agree with you. all the best from ISRAEL 👍👍

  • @Anand.Asrani
    @Anand.Asrani ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was such a fun review & Shocking to hear no big differences between the Technics & the Fosi amp , thanks Bob

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Both clean and fun... but that Technics has some real special sauce. Plus lots of connectivity, and better than they have to be phono and headphones section. It$ reasonable, but it ain't cheap! Thanks for watching!

  • @unstablenetwork4744
    @unstablenetwork4744 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saturday Fun Club - Set up a headphone rig for my son at his work station. Fluance RT81 Elite/Wiim Pro/Douk T4Pro/Phillips SHP9600 Spinning Billy Joel - The Stranger.
    On a separate note - been tempted to add the Fosi V3 to my list of Chi-Fi, but just haven't pulled the trigger. Instead, I bought the HTA200 from Dayton Audio/Parts Express. It's a bit more money, and is a hybrid tube Class A/B integrated amplifier. I haven't seen many reviews on it, so I ventured on my own to check it out.
    What's on top of my bedroom speakers.....More Speakers.

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm sure the Fosi will go on sale again!!!!! How do you like the little amp you bought?

    • @unstablenetwork4744
      @unstablenetwork4744 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesofAnalog I'm a sucker for tubes. I have the Aiyima T9 that I compared the 2 side by side. The Dayton has a bigger soundstage for sure, but the little Aiyima holds it's own. HTA200 is a bit warmer tone as well, with a tiny bit more detail.
      Just jumping into the headphone side of things, so no comparison yet on the Douk T4Pro, but the feature set made things easy.

  • @dsnyder0cnn
    @dsnyder0cnn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the concept. I did something similar a few years ago with a Raspberry Pi3 and a HIFIBerry AMP2 board (25 wpc). Loudspeakers were JBL 4311B, a pair that I bought on eBay for a trip down memory lane. Sound was not quite as full as I remembered from the early 80's with Crown amplification, but it was still a blast seeing those big white woofers moving air again.

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree! I think that we sometimes forget to stop down and play with our stuff!!!!

  • @tmdillon1969
    @tmdillon1969 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought the V3 as the core of my planned soundbar replacement system. I'm building some CSS Torii as the mains. Undecided if I'll go with a sub at all. The wife hates the way they look. I'm going to run a WIIM Pro and Topping DAC as a sort of combined pre-amp. I'm either going to need to use a splitter or a different amp as the wife now want's a turntable in the system and the Fosi only has one analog input.

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're gonna need a small preamp or you'll be spending time in the dog house! What kind of turntable are you going to run!

  • @anthonytube
    @anthonytube ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ordered one! Okay more importantly we should never stop playing and eating sugary cereals! I need to find my old hot wheels and go crazy!! :-) Thanks for the video!

  • @cpta03
    @cpta03 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another fun video, Bob. Earlier this summer I got a Douk Audio St-01 amp. I hooked an old Sony DVD player via coax, a Fluance turntable via Fosi Audio Phono Box X2, WiiM Mini streamer, and an old pair of Wharfedale W35 speakers. I’m retired so I don’t remember if it was a Saturday, but it was a lot of fun! Surprisingly good sounding setup. Looking forward to more of your videos.

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We're having fun again with hi-fi. It ain't got to be so serious! Throw a bunch of stuff in the bowl, mix it up and see what comes out! Sometimes it's amazing! Thanks for watching!

    • @cpta03
      @cpta03 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesofAnalogDigging into specs and listening critically is too much like work. If it sounds good, go with it. I saw all the inputs on the little Douk Audio amp and just starting connecting stuff. I didn’t know that my old Sony DVD player could be used as a CD transport.

  • @carlsitler9071
    @carlsitler9071 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I already have an Aiyima A07 I rarely use. In the livingroom, I use it connected to the TV via a Prozar dac. It actually sounds outstanding running Mirage OM-9s. Obviously not audiophile like my man cave system.

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sometimes you just need a little black box to get by! Happy listening!

  • @boatformypotplants
    @boatformypotplants ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hooray! Nilsson Scmilsson showed up again! Jolly good too.

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, Man... you want the best- you got the best! Put the lime in the coconut!

  • @JMJM75257
    @JMJM75257 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This amp truly is a decent little thing! I run mine albeit tweaked with upgraded op amps and psu but damn does it sound great!

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed! Mucho bang for the buck!

    • @JMJM75257
      @JMJM75257 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesofAnalog it'll be interesting to see how you think this amp does with some higher end speakers. I have a feeling it may surprise you!

    • @iikatinggangsengii2471
      @iikatinggangsengii2471 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hm, it does sound competitive to more expensive offerings, which very confusing at first

  • @williamjoelserson4898
    @williamjoelserson4898 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just helped fund the P3. The P3 will have the tone controls, Bluetooth (I know, ugh), and headphone jack, and sounds like that P3 and V3 go well together. I have my master system with much better gear, but the V3 and P3 combined could make a nice 2nd system, garage setup, office setup, dorm setup, etc... I'm excited!

  • @FunFiEmpire
    @FunFiEmpire ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HiFi Fun Club!! Love it. Want to live it. Sorry to hear the speakers did not work. Did the magic sparkle dust leave the Bose over time? Did you try another set to see if the sound worked with the setup sans Bose?

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The V3 set-up rocked my big Klipsch Fortes! So I know it's possible! Thanks for watching!

  • @jimfarrell4635
    @jimfarrell4635 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Like you I had no need for a V3 but they kept sending me offers till my resolve cracked. Also I did want the bigger power supply for my op amp modded BT20A Pro and it ended up only slightly more expensive to get the V3 with bigger power supply than the power supply alone.
    The bigger supply makes a big difference to the grunt on board and helps reduce that thinness.
    Incidentally, I think you have broken new ground. I can't think of a single TH-cam hifi video to feature a Bose product other than noise cancelling headphones. Bose are normally used as a synonym for crap.

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's how they getcha! I would be getting the bigger power supply soon! Thanks for watching!!!

  • @scottlowell493
    @scottlowell493 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WhatI I find hilarious about gatekeeping audio snobs:
    Some of the most vaunted audio products have the worst measurements. Wilson watt/puppy 5, D'augustino amp and Passlabs. Lots of frequency anomalies and distortions, but hey, at least they are expensive!

  • @frischma1
    @frischma1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was a fun video. I’ve always wanted to check out the 601s. I heard a pair at a record store and they were pretty good. I wonder if those woofers or the crossovers are maybe off a bit. Cheers!

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very well could be off! I also dug up a manual and it said they should be placed against a wall... not it to the room! I'm going to experiment more and report back! Thanks for watching!

    • @frischma1
      @frischma1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesofAnalog the placement could do it. My uncle had 901s and they had to be placed just so. He had them hanging from the ceiling

  • @gregcarson3444
    @gregcarson3444 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow did not know Bose made a 601, back in the day mid 70’s I have a pair of Bose 501’s series II, had to have an soundcraftman eq with those, they had this nasty 60 hz hump. Powers by 110 wats a per side, Sansui intergrated amp

  • @scottlowell493
    @scottlowell493 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I rebuilt a set of that series 601. 5% metal poly cap in the crossover. Much better than stock. I've use PE parts, and the drivers are better than bose. bose had it's era with me, but it comes down to "thump and sizzle" , and smearing sound everywhere with no focus.

  • @scottbaylor6215
    @scottbaylor6215 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it. 🤘🏼🎸🤘🏼

  • @Crmsnraider
    @Crmsnraider ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heya mate, cool beans, keep doin what ya doing. Interesting vid, good production and editing *thumbsup*
    check ya on the next innit

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate the kudos... we've got a lot of work to do and a lot to learn... but we'll get there!

  • @cbayardelle
    @cbayardelle 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If the amp didn’t sound good, the Bose speakers are the problem, I had a pair many years ago, pretty bad speakers. The Fosi put out 191 watts per channel measured by Audioscience. excellent amp, drives elac speakers that drop to 3.7 ohms imaging & soundstage on the elacs ub 5 are amazing, the speakers do a disappearing act. Magic never happens with Bose speakers.

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They have gotten away with murder for years!

  • @jim010109
    @jim010109 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need to drag out some stuff build a Frankenstein system, I can see my wife rolling her eyes now!😂😂😅

  • @Douglas_Blake_579
    @Douglas_Blake_579 ปีที่แล้ว

    By measurement ...
    Stock 32volt supply ... 55 watts rms per channel on 8 ohms, 90 on 4 ohms with less than 0.1% distortion.
    48 volt supply ... 110 watts/ch on 8 ohms, 220 on 4 ohms.
    Yeah... real watts... If you want to know what they can really do, hook them up to a decent pair of "workhorse' speakers like the Heresy or L-100... they will surprise you.

  • @1mctous
    @1mctous ปีที่แล้ว

    141 W at 4 ohms with the 48 V power supply according to Audio Science Review. BTW it has a large ultrasonic peak with 8 ohm and higher loads.

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว

      Why do they preach 300w?

    • @1mctous
      @1mctous ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@UnitedStatesofAnalog They can claim anything they want in China without fear of class action suits.

    • @AxelPixel-cx4wg
      @AxelPixel-cx4wg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually, is Texas Inst. that says so.
      This is taken from TI datasheet for TPA3255:
      Differential Analog Inputs
      Total Output Power at 10%THD+N
      315-W Stereo into 4 Ω in BTL Configuration
      185-W Stereo into 8 Ω in BTL Configuration
      !!!600-W Mono into 2 Ω in PBTL Configuration!!!
      Total Output Power at 1%THD+N
      260-W Stereo into 4 Ω in BTL Configuration
      150-W Stereo into 8 Ω in BTL Configuration
      480-W Mono into 2 Ω in PBTL Configuration
      Advanced Integrated Feedback Design with High-speed Gate Driver Error Correction
      (PurePath™ Ultra-HD)
      Signal Bandwidth up to 100 kHz for High Frequency Content From HD Sources
      Ultra Low 0.006% THD+N at 1 W into 4 Ω and 65 dB PSRR (BTL, 1 kHz, No Input Signal)
      111 dB (A Weighted) SNR
      Also the voltage can go up to 53.5Volt, and if it has at least 12A it can put out those 600W on 2Ohm speakers.
      So it’s not a “chinese” claim, actually it’s an USA claim, definitely not fear of any kind of class action for them since they’re simply reporting the producer specs!!!
      @@UnitedStatesofAnalog

  • @jazzbase412
    @jazzbase412 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wondering if the Bose might make a good rear Atmos speaker 🤔

  • @HeyYall398
    @HeyYall398 ปีที่แล้ว

    "We're gonna get out the strippers" 🤣

  • @HeyYall398
    @HeyYall398 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fosi exaggerates the power rating like others. It puts out a max of 141 W @ 4hms! Thanks to ASR!

  • @PGRPGRPG
    @PGRPGRPG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aren’t BOSE speakers intended to play in combination solely with BOSE amps…?

    • @unstablenetwork4744
      @unstablenetwork4744 ปีที่แล้ว

      201 and 301 could play off of anything. 601 and 901 were tougher to drive.

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't think so. Maybe the 901s, which have that module. I think the here was a spatial audioBose had in the day for the 601s. There are three terminals. Is the amp fully necessary or a whole lot of marketing?

    • @unstablenetwork4744
      @unstablenetwork4744 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UnitedStatesofAnalog Did a little research and found the owner's manual online through Bose. You may not have wired them up properly. Check it out, maybe we can make these sing again!

  • @m4nc1n1
    @m4nc1n1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great little amp, but to get 300w you need to go 2 Ohm then it goes into protection. If you have the 48v PSU you can expect about 75w RMS @ 8 Ohm which is great for it's size but the BS needs to stop with these companies. Oh and banana plugs do not fit...you need pin type plugs which is VERY annoying.

    • @isometrus
      @isometrus ปีที่แล้ว

      I've tried several banana plugs on my V3 and they all fitted flawlessly

  • @Scrufboy
    @Scrufboy ปีที่แล้ว

    There is more bad with the pass-through. Please test this yourself if you can.
    First... The pass-through works both ways... You can input via the 3.5mm too. Then you would use the RCA as outputs. Just like the Aiyima A07. It is really only a Y cable. Not even a line out.
    So here is the nail in the V3 coffin. I found out last night that the RCA and 3.5mm pass-through of the V3 are wired wrong and when another device is plugged into the V3, while conducting an isolated L-R stereo separation test, reveals the crossed signals. This error doesn't happen when you only use the RCA(or 3.5mm) input alone... But as soon as you plug something into the V3 for output... L-R tests reveal the cross-fed signals. When testing, the left channel will play and a reduced signal will play in the right channel too and vice versa. This should not happen. Fosi Audio obviously copied the original circuit layout of the Aiyima A07. The A07 also had this error in their first run... They did fix it... So they say...
    For Shame Fosi! You will have to split your signal before your V3 and feed your secondary device that way. You cannot use the pass-through in the V3. The entire first run of this device is junk for anyone needing that pass-through to work as intended. Buyer Beware!

  • @vinyljoe1940
    @vinyljoe1940 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Haha what I wouldn't give to be thin and confused

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ah... your looking good Joe! Tall and handsome like powerful tower speaker!!!

    • @1mctous
      @1mctous ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd rather be fat and clear-headed.

  • @hmrowland6114
    @hmrowland6114 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The power supply needs upgrade to attain 300w.

    • @UnitedStatesofAnalog
      @UnitedStatesofAnalog  ปีที่แล้ว

      Power supply is on the way!!!! Now I need to figure out a good application for the amp! I have too many systems going already. Maybe a small near field system with the LS50 Metas and the Fosi, that I can easily strike and store when I'm not using it. Thanks for watching!!!!

  • @DA-jw6nm
    @DA-jw6nm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you review a device that contributes to sound production and all you do is talk.