I know this is script but her ever smiling mother left her a 4 million debt...quite a royal piggy. Drink, food and parties given in her later years. Her daughter was not like her. I doubt her father was like her mother either.
My 88 year old grandma called my 65 year old mother a "foolish child" for selling her favorite teapot at a garage sale 2 weeks ago. "You know how I bring it out every time I entertain people I LIKE. This teapot was a symbol to others that I liked them. That their company was welcome. My friends revered the teapot. I will NEVER find another with a goose design like this. They stopped making them in 1959 I'VE LOOKED" wish I was kidding. But I thought of this scene for some reason after that dressing down
Think of the First Elizabeth’s father, Henry VIII, who thought that as King of England he could literally do whatever he pleased because it was gods will that he was King. Yet he split from the Church founded by one of Christ’s Disciples (while corrupt at the time and through the centuries, is Still Saint Peter’s church and the first instrument of Christianity), and killed most of his 6 wives (murder would be appropriate to call it) because he wanted a male heir so badly. He harmed his two daughters who he had declared love for at points in time while latter treating them like unwanted children. Yet Elizabeth I crippled Spain, the most powerful empire at time, and proved certain body parts didn’t make you a great ruler.
@@lunartears6761 What humanises Henry VIII is learning that for most of his life he suffered from incurable leg wounds from jousting which included small splinters of bone slowly and painfully working their way through the flesh. That amount of incurable daily agony for decades with zero pain relief would make anyone crazy. Just saying, it's an interesting fact that helped me view him with more understanding and kindness.
@@BubbleGumzKorner it's up to you how you view him but to me personally knowing about this pain helped me to feel empathy for him. I hope people will have some empathy for you next time you hurt yourself, but hey. Not really trying to argue a point, just extending an alternative perspective, take it or leave it 💕
Tell me about it. A couple of years ago my 90 year old mother dressed me down like a ten year old for installing a shelf in her hall linen closet without consulting her first.
@@AmyWarriorPrincess I feel your pain. I guess all you can do is roll your eyes behind her back. Right back to High School days. Oh well, as long as we can laugh at it.
My mum does this a lot, unfortunately. Thankfully, my husband comes to my defense when I argue back. I don't recall my grandmother ever doing this to my mum, but I've heard horror stories of my great-grandmother being this way.
The Queen Mother was of the old school; and had wise words to give -- and be respected. However, Queen Elizabeth looked to the future -- and saw the monarchy for what it was, an institution *allowed* by the people, not one of simple might and the historical fiefdom. Queen Elizabeth was indeed divinely inspired -- but not in the say the Queen Mother believed; Queen Elizabeth was *inspired* by the Divine; not a claimant of it. The monachy and the Crown was indeed, her birthright, but one given by a gracious people. God rest you, Your Majesty. And thank you.
It is said, by people who worked for the royal family, that the Queen mother controlled everyone. And that Elizabeth II became more "informal" after the Queen Mother passed away. 😂😂
Did any of those people happen to confirm whether the Queen ever actually felt sad about Diana dying? As opposed to being glad to be rid of an ever increasing problem for them?
Thats how it goes with all monarchies...every generation becomes more relaxed until eventually the monarchy becomes obsolete and fades away....it takes vigilance and constant maintenance to remain relevant. People born rich dont understand the sacrifices of the generations before to get them to that point and slowly allows apathy to take over. All of it is good in my opinion, monarchies are relics of the past
@@sew_gal7340 every generation has had younger people being anti-monarchists. Cant remember the study but as brits grow up, they come to appreciate the idea of a politically stable and neutral head of state amidst changing prime ministers. As such, absolute monarchies are indeed relics of the past Slimmed down monarchies are the best way forward.
@@darthkahn45 Diana dying was awful for the monarchy. It, ironically, immortalized her. If she'd grown old, lost her looks and made increasingly vacuous remarks and basically demonstrated that she was, at her core, a bit thick (she failed her O levels TWICE) everyone would have gone off her. But dead she was forever the people's princess.
@@sew_gal7340just because monarchies used to exist in the past doesn't mean they shouldn't in present, for the precise reason of it's adaptability and function have they survived in present, and we should keep them as it is. Not everything of the past needs to be done away with
She always wanted to be queen. Even when the Queen Mother was very young, she was very ambitious and power hungry. She initially tried to seduce Edward VIII aka “David” but he rejected her, so she settled for his brother. Margaret and Elizabeth were actually conceived through artificial insemination because the Queen Mother hated sex (at least with her husband that is).
@@kcirtapelyk6060the person who made the claim about artificial insemination is well-known for inventing wild tales about the royals in order to sell books. So also claimed that the Queen's great-grandfather was secretly a french cook, and that Princess Diana had an affair with the king of Spain.
This scene features the best guidelines for commenting on the internet: 1. Does it need to be said? 2. Does it need to be said now? 3. Does it need to be said by me?
I am an element of profound admiration for what gracious and late Queen Elizabeth did in regards of Her Annus Horribilis. Still she remained as divine as ever along her long tenure as a servant. Bravo !
If this was true, the queen mother had no business trying to tell a monarch/queen regnant (a queen in her own right) how to conduct herself. The queen mother was never a monarch; just the spouse of one. She ultimately had never held that responsibility. By this point, the Queen had been queen for much longer than the queen mother was on the throne with her husband. At this stage, the Queen had been queen for almost 50 years. The queen mother was only Queen (the spouse of the King) for 16 years.
Mother is mother at the end of the day. Doesn’t matter who you are or what you do. But, the Queen Mother still knew what it meant to be a monarch. As consort, she not only stood alongside the King, but but helped guide and advise him. She was a major figure throughout World War II. She knew the English people.
@@corydestein3160I am sure she was wise and influential figure in her time but now she was completely out of touch with modern English society and didn't understand the modern values and needs of new generation. That's why she should have mind her own business and let the monarch do her duty. The current generation don't even believe in God anymore what's makes her think that they would believe in the divinity of their monarch.
@@kapilshastryshe was just like Mary of Teck. The Crown is the Crown, it supersedes all else. When you put the crown on your are transfigured to being above everyone else. So lesser people shouldn’t be made aware of how you feel. Protect the crown at all cost. It was an archaic tradition. One that Queen Elizabeth gladly put down finally. But I totally understand where Queen Mother and Mary of Teck come from. They are just part of the old world. They were of nobility and Royality before both their marriages. So it’s just something passed down
@@intellectualmind9512the Queen mother although archaic held her own kind of wisdom when she advised her daughter to conceal her emotions rather than display them outright. I think I understand where she was coming from!
I once heard that the Queen Mother, when she was visiting someone else's house and saw a piece of furniture she liked, would make a point of saying so and wouldn't leave till it was offered to her.
@@romanikkoralph1553Like 3/4th of the Europe at that time? She belonged to a different generation. She was born when Queen Victoria was in power. Stop judging ppl on today’s perspectives.
Primarily she was a woman respected for her sense of duty and support. When WW2 started in 1939 "there was some suggestion that the Queen and her daughters should evacuate to North America or Canada. To this the Queen made her famous reply: 'The children won't go without me. I won't leave the King. And the King will never leave." Hitler called her "the most dangerous woman in Europe".
i hate how she didn’t have enough screen time for seasons 5 and 6. she was indeed a hidden antagonist in the plot but they failed going steady with that like what they did with seasons 1 to 4.
I think they barely used her season 3 and 4. Other than the episode with the secret cousins, I don't remember her doing much except smiling in the back of scenes. She was well known for her wit and day-drinking, and could have been a great comic relief character.
@@chasef89 Well one major role she had was in season 3, the plot where she arranged Camilla to be married to Andrew Parker Bowles which ended Charles and Camilla's hidden relationship.
As if Her Maj needed her mum's advice after nearly 40 years on the throne. I know how much she loved her mother, but the Queen Mother was happy to dip her oar in wherever she wasn't wanted.
That’s why the RF couldn’t rid of the Victorian norms until Queen Mother’s death. Queen literally earned her complete autonomy after her mother’s death. Her mother had always been her advisor and she always got influenced by her mother’s opinions.
@@fahimfaisalmahir567I just wondered if from reading your response here, this is maybe at least part of the reason why the Queen never gave up her reign while she was alive for Charles to take over. She knew from both sides what it was like to have a previous monarch not fully able to relinquish their role, and how difficult it would be for King Charles to still have his mother the former queen alive during the beginning of his reign. She understood how hard it would be on them both from this kind of experience.
@@Loulizabeth British Monarchs do not generally abdicate. It is a taboo for them. Abdication breaks the very solemn oath they pledged before God when they were crowned. If they are unfit to work, they declare a regency and the regent performs the duty on behalf of the monarch. And there are 6 counsellors of state as well who take up the duties of the monarch in their absence. That's why in Queen's older days, most of her duties were performed by King Charles, Queen Camilla, William and Kate.
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 Thanks for that. I'm actually from Britain. I guess the media just didn't make that clear enough during her reign. In fact you had so many people in the media talking about why the Queen should step aside to allow Charles to have a longer reign, that I think there were possibly quite a few people not really knowing what the actual situation really was. Surely this should have been talked about more in the media to help people know what the real situation was.
@@falconeshieldin 1997, that moron Tony Blair took Britannia and refused to replace it. He played up his people's princess schtick. Now: Her Late Majesty is as much loved in death as she was in life. Blair? Despised and best forgotten.
I think she felt that she had to be extra strong and forceful so often that once things cooled, she didn't know how to stop. Add upper class snobbery into the mix and you have a dangerous situation
I loved H.M. Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother. However, that being said...sometimes she acted like a bit of an "Ostrich ". She was basically acting the way Her Late Majesty Queen Mary did as well...previously
She never really had the power. Her husband was the one with the true power, but she was so danged bossy she tried her best to take over his reign. He let her get away with it quite a bit, especially in the very beginning and again when he was so ill at the end. She tried her best to continue after he died and caused a *lot* of conflict in Elizabeth's and Phillip's marriage with her interference. She was extremely strict with her older daughter and expected to be able to run her daughter's life after she ascended the throne, but Phillip managed to work around her and back up his wife.
It's always baffled me that the queen mother was reputed to be such a snob with her background. Her lineage/background is beneath that of a typical spouse of a monarch. Usually, spouses of monarchs are royal: princesses and princes. While her background was respectable since her family was aristocratic, it was beneath that of all other spouses of monarchs. She was not royal. I've also noted that she seemed to put on the biggest show with her waves and hand flourishes, which I never found to be dignified. No one else in the family waved in that manner. It has always seemed to me that she had something to prove and that being "queen-like" was something she had to put on.
Of course she had to put on a show to prove herself as real queen because she never would have imagined in her wildest dreams that one day she will become the future queen consort of England as she was a noble lady from a humble aristocrat family background who was married to a disabled spare prince.
She married the spare, not the heir, she was never supposed to be Queen Consort. Also by the 1920s the custom of marrying other royals was beginning to die out because WWI had wiped out a great deal of European monarchies. And again the wave she gave was actually how royals did wave in the earlier parts of the 20th century. You will see Queen Mary had the same wave.
Yes I've always found it odd she looked down on Philip who was more royal by birth than her or even Elizabeth was (because of the Queen mother's lineage). She really was a piece of work.
Not that I disagree with you, but the concepts of deserving, public opinion, and fairness have no place in an institution like monarchy. They get what they get because either they were born into or by marriage. No king or Queen ever got the throne because they deserved it, even if they were good people.
Totally out of touch with real life. Interesting to think how different it might have been if she had not lived to be over a hundred. No one dared do anything without asking her permission. She had to be pandered to. Several others of her generation like Princess Mary and Princess Marina did not live to a great age, despite also being widowed young. I think she played on it all her life and used as a stick to beat David and Wallis with.
Great acting and cinematography. Good point about someone's privacy, obviously you're not responsible for anyone's actions but your own, but also the journalist made absolutely a great point highlighting how monarchy isn't legitimate.
I heard that she hated Simpson because she had a thing for Edward VIII, herself and he preferred Wallis Simpson. The idea that she never forgave George 8 for putting her husband in a position that killed him is ludicrous as the man was responsible for smoking himself into lung cancer….
The Queen wanted her people to know that the Monarchy is regale, but also human. From birth they were taught to show only perfection, they weren't allowed to show feelings of sadness, regret or remorse, and I believe that was what made Elizabeth seem so cold hearted in her subjects eyes, just to uphold an ugly traditional standard. I also believe that the reason Princess Diana was so loved by the people was not only by her charity and good deeds, but by her openness to show love and compassion. She never tried to tower herself over others and stayed humble until the very end. God rest Queen Elizabeth. And may God rest Princess Diana, a Queen the world didn't deserve.
It has been said that Queen Elizabeth II was said when her mother died, but also relieved of the burden of following her rules and the guilt she put upon current her family.
I'm not surprised at the QM's controlling, they got placed in the highest position of the land completely unexpectedly, anyone with that opportunity would do anything to keep it
The Queen Mother was the one aspect of The Crown that I never liked. She was a famously approachable yet firm person, yet she was always portrayed as a mousey character. Marion Bailey was the only one who came close to portraying her as she really was, imo. I think Imelda Staunton would've been a great casting choice for the Queen Mother, but she did do great as the Queen herself.
People gave her hell for not giving a public display of her pain, but Elizabeth put her job as a grandmother first. She had a 12 yr old & 16 yr old boy who had just suffered the greatest loss in a young man's life. I always respected her for that. Their mother had just been chased to her death by paparazzi...the same folks foaming at the mouth to get a pic of her sons in their agony... Ngl, it made me feel some type of way about the British people DEMANDING she expose her grief publicly. This speech was her compromise and imo it was far more than they "deserved"
It was an iconic speech. It humanised her and softened hearts to the crown.
What was the speech?
@jaredf6205 the famous Queen's 'annus horribilis' speech at the Guildhall in London, England. 1992
The event was for her Ruby jubilee.
❤
@@rosehill9537 that's a bad name for a speech lol
@@jaredf6205 sadly the history names them by date and location. It's also known simply as the annus horribilis Speech. Which I think is just as bad.
I know this is script but her ever smiling mother left her a 4 million debt...quite a royal piggy. Drink, food and parties given in her later years. Her daughter was not like her. I doubt her father was like her mother either.
Professor Umbridge calling anyone "mummy" just makes me laugh
HAHAHA finally someone brings up Umbridge 😂😂
I can still see the glitter in her eyes as she forced the writing lines on poor Harry’s hand
I still see walls
of kitten plates🤦🏽♀️
😂🤣😂🤣💀
We mustn’t tell lies, Mummy
The way the Queen Mother said "APOLOGY?" As if Elizabeth just uttered the F word 😂😂😂😂
She’s like “I just threw up in my mouth a little bit” 😂
😂😂😂
Lol
Monarchy, Hip-Hop, what have you... its all the same 😅
The Queen blossomed after her mother died so I believe she was controlled be her to some degree
I've heard that before and would agree that her mother who was stronger than George VI , was indeed a dominating force in rhe RF
@@niallmcdonaghcosolicitors1201remember what Hitler said he used to see her the QM as his biggest threat in Europe.
thats why Phillip used to call her a Beach
Definitely.
I noticed that too.
"Know what, that their Queen is depressed?" That makes me laugh. lol
And her facial expression while saying that 🤣
same kkkkkkkk
Yes, depressed. It IS a human emotion that exists, even in the monarchy. Face it.
@@hillarydesmond-mcnaughton8839nobody said that come down of your liberal show horse
@@hillarydesmond-mcnaughton8839 to hell with the monarchy
Elizabeth II was a real queen, THE Queen. She will forever be my monarch, and i respect her greatly.
I still can not say "King" Charles. I don't think I ever will. The Queen is my monarch.
My 88 year old grandma called my 65 year old mother a "foolish child" for selling her favorite teapot at a garage sale 2 weeks ago. "You know how I bring it out every time I entertain people I LIKE. This teapot was a symbol to others that I liked them. That their company was welcome. My friends revered the teapot. I will NEVER find another with a goose design like this. They stopped making them in 1959 I'VE LOOKED"
wish I was kidding. But I thought of this scene for some reason after that dressing down
It does seem a little strange to sell off an appreciated item that cannot be bought again.
God bless their sweet soul, I've read your comment with a smile on my face.
Mothers. They just know.
@@Novarcharesk Maybe she was no longer entertaining. She is 88.
I don't know why I mentally read that in an old lady's voice and tone😂
The “Queen Mother” never gave up her reign.
Quite true, she should have been sent to Balmoral to live.
Agreed! Living a pipe dream through her daughter! The same way American parents live that dream forcing their children through sports
@@CallemJayNZ nah Castle of Mey, would have been a better place
Just away, period. She would have had a better life than a Nursing Home or Assisted Living, American style. Paz be with us all 🙏. "Isa"
She was a right ol’ pain on the a~~ for sure.
Its said she told her mother that all the monarchies that vanished in the 20th century also never knew the word "apology".
Yeah.. pride was the beginning of their fall and yet they used God, a symbol of humbleness
Think of the First Elizabeth’s father, Henry VIII, who thought that as King of England he could literally do whatever he pleased because it was gods will that he was King. Yet he split from the Church founded by one of Christ’s Disciples (while corrupt at the time and through the centuries, is Still Saint Peter’s church and the first instrument of Christianity), and killed most of his 6 wives (murder would be appropriate to call it) because he wanted a male heir so badly. He harmed his two daughters who he had declared love for at points in time while latter treating them like unwanted children. Yet Elizabeth I crippled Spain, the most powerful empire at time, and proved certain body parts didn’t make you a great ruler.
@@lunartears6761 What humanises Henry VIII is learning that for most of his life he suffered from incurable leg wounds from jousting which included small splinters of bone slowly and painfully working their way through the flesh. That amount of incurable daily agony for decades with zero pain relief would make anyone crazy. Just saying, it's an interesting fact that helped me view him with more understanding and kindness.
@@ConstableCinnamon kindness? He joisted and didn't wear protection. He literally did it to himself
@@BubbleGumzKorner it's up to you how you view him but to me personally knowing about this pain helped me to feel empathy for him. I hope people will have some empathy for you next time you hurt yourself, but hey. Not really trying to argue a point, just extending an alternative perspective, take it or leave it 💕
Imagine being a mature grown woman of a certain age, being scolded by your mother another even more grown woman of an even more certain age.
Tell me about it. A couple of years ago my 90 year old mother dressed me down like a ten year old for installing a shelf in her hall linen closet without consulting her first.
I know the feeling. My 86 year old mother does it to me all the time
@@AmyWarriorPrincess I feel your pain. I guess all you can do is roll your eyes behind her back. Right back to High School days. Oh well, as long as we can laugh at it.
My mum does this a lot, unfortunately. Thankfully, my husband comes to my defense when I argue back. I don't recall my grandmother ever doing this to my mum, but I've heard horror stories of my great-grandmother being this way.
Oh I don’t have to imagine
I love how they have Prince Philip defending her
Well yeah. It's why she fell for him. Authority means nothing without girth.
They were very close cousins after all!
well she died the year after his death, they truly loved each other
@@RealAadilFarooqui She was 95 already, it's not that weird.
Prince Phillip had her heat turned off so she would leave the Palace
We don't forget. 2002, 10 years later, may be a more devastating one, losing the two loved ones continuously.
?
The Queen Mother was of the old school; and had wise words to give -- and be respected. However, Queen Elizabeth looked to the future -- and saw the monarchy for what it was, an institution *allowed* by the people, not one of simple might and the historical fiefdom.
Queen Elizabeth was indeed divinely inspired -- but not in the say the Queen Mother believed; Queen Elizabeth was *inspired* by the Divine; not a claimant of it. The monachy and the Crown was indeed, her birthright, but one given by a gracious people.
God rest you, Your Majesty. And thank you.
Hear, hear. Well said!
I was Happy we got to appreciate what she did and thank her for never evé making it about herself uncle mega liar
Before making comments about the monarchy, at least know how to spell it! 👎
It’s… really not ‘allowed’ by the people 😂 It exists entirely divorced from someone’s opinion.
@@Novarchareskbut it is. If it wasn't wanted it would be deposed like most of the others.
It is said, by people who worked for the royal family, that the Queen mother controlled everyone. And that Elizabeth II became more "informal" after the Queen Mother passed away. 😂😂
Did any of those people happen to confirm whether the Queen ever actually felt sad about Diana dying? As opposed to being glad to be rid of an ever increasing problem for them?
Thats how it goes with all monarchies...every generation becomes more relaxed until eventually the monarchy becomes obsolete and fades away....it takes vigilance and constant maintenance to remain relevant. People born rich dont understand the sacrifices of the generations before to get them to that point and slowly allows apathy to take over.
All of it is good in my opinion, monarchies are relics of the past
@@sew_gal7340 every generation has had younger people being anti-monarchists. Cant remember the study but as brits grow up, they come to appreciate the idea of a politically stable and neutral head of state amidst changing prime ministers.
As such, absolute monarchies are indeed relics of the past Slimmed down monarchies are the best way forward.
@@darthkahn45 Diana dying was awful for the monarchy. It, ironically, immortalized her.
If she'd grown old, lost her looks and made increasingly vacuous remarks and basically demonstrated that she was, at her core, a bit thick (she failed her O levels TWICE) everyone would have gone off her. But dead she was forever the people's princess.
@@sew_gal7340just because monarchies used to exist in the past doesn't mean they shouldn't in present, for the precise reason of it's adaptability and function have they survived in present, and we should keep them as it is. Not everything of the past needs to be done away with
For a woman who did not want to be Queen, she sure did a lot of Queening, even more so after George VI died.
She always wanted to be queen. Even when the Queen Mother was very young, she was very ambitious and power hungry. She initially tried to seduce Edward VIII aka “David” but he rejected her, so she settled for his brother. Margaret and Elizabeth were actually conceived through artificial insemination because the Queen Mother hated sex (at least with her husband that is).
@@kcirtapelyk6060the person who made the claim about artificial insemination is well-known for inventing wild tales about the royals in order to sell books.
So also claimed that the Queen's great-grandfather was secretly a french cook, and that Princess Diana had an affair with the king of Spain.
She did want to be queen that's why she detested David because she had hoped to marry him but he was not interested in her.
@@misscoutts6193ohh now I see that’s why she hated his wife Wallis the American socialite. It makes sense now.
@@misscoutts6193 - She rejected a date from him once.
'Mommeh' is quite cute
This scene features the best guidelines for commenting on the internet:
1. Does it need to be said?
2. Does it need to be said now?
3. Does it need to be said by me?
Lol, that's one thing that social media is good for is giving us platform to be opinionated.
@@tiffanygrever8092 😂💯
No one will take this advice 😂
@@harleyb7880 You're not wrong!
I've written this down - and going to do my best to live by it. Thanks for saying it.
I am an element of profound admiration for what gracious and late Queen Elizabeth did in regards of Her Annus Horribilis. Still she remained as divine as ever along her long tenure as a servant. Bravo !
If this was true, the queen mother had no business trying to tell a monarch/queen regnant (a queen in her own right) how to conduct herself. The queen mother was never a monarch; just the spouse of one. She ultimately had never held that responsibility. By this point, the Queen had been queen for much longer than the queen mother was on the throne with her husband. At this stage, the Queen had been queen for almost 50 years. The queen mother was only Queen (the spouse of the King) for 16 years.
40 years. This happened in 1992
Mother is mother at the end of the day. Doesn’t matter who you are or what you do. But, the Queen Mother still knew what it meant to be a monarch. As consort, she not only stood alongside the King, but but helped guide and advise him. She was a major figure throughout World War II. She knew the English people.
@@corydestein3160I am sure she was wise and influential figure in her time but now she was completely out of touch with modern English society and didn't understand the modern values and needs of new generation. That's why she should have mind her own business and let the monarch do her duty.
The current generation don't even believe in God anymore what's makes her think that they would believe in the divinity of their monarch.
@@kapilshastryshe was just like Mary of Teck. The Crown is the Crown, it supersedes all else. When you put the crown on your are transfigured to being above everyone else. So lesser people shouldn’t be made aware of how you feel. Protect the crown at all cost. It was an archaic tradition. One that Queen Elizabeth gladly put down finally. But I totally understand where Queen Mother and Mary of Teck come from. They are just part of the old world. They were of nobility and Royality before both their marriages. So it’s just something passed down
@@intellectualmind9512the Queen mother although archaic held her own kind of wisdom when she advised her daughter to conceal her emotions rather than display them outright. I think I understand where she was coming from!
I once heard that the Queen Mother, when she was visiting someone else's house and saw a piece of furniture she liked, would make a point of saying so and wouldn't leave till it was offered to her.
That was Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth II's grandmother, who reportedly did that.
That was Queen Mary
I thought that was Prince I thought that was Queen Mary of Teck who did that?
@christhody7112 yes, I'm told that the peerage used to hide their good furniture and good jewelry when they knew Queen Mary was coming for a visit.
This is a television show and a fictional conversation. No need to use it to impugn the Queen Mother, who was very well loved.
The queen mother in The Queen (the movie) was amazing and really captured her gait. This woman is nothing like her.
How do you know she wasn't like this
@@AmyWarriorPrincessQween Mother also looks nothing like her...
"Queen" Mother was a bossy snob and, regular party goer, who wasted royal money. Elizabeth II. inherited the Grace of her father. RIP
yeah, she watched her father go though it.
You forgot that she was a racist too
@@romanikkoralph1553Like 3/4th of the Europe at that time? She belonged to a different generation. She was born when Queen Victoria was in power. Stop judging ppl on today’s perspectives.
Primarily she was a woman respected for her sense of duty and support. When WW2 started in 1939 "there was some suggestion that the Queen and her daughters should evacuate to North America or Canada. To this the Queen made her famous reply: 'The children won't go without me. I won't leave the King. And the King will never leave." Hitler called her "the most dangerous woman in Europe".
So she was just like the rest of them?
i hate how she didn’t have enough screen time for seasons 5 and 6. she was indeed a hidden antagonist in the plot but they failed going steady with that like what they did with seasons 1 to 4.
I think they barely used her season 3 and 4. Other than the episode with the secret cousins, I don't remember her doing much except smiling in the back of scenes. She was well known for her wit and day-drinking, and could have been a great comic relief character.
@@chasef89 Well one major role she had was in season 3, the plot where she arranged Camilla to be married to Andrew Parker Bowles which ended Charles and Camilla's hidden relationship.
Exactly, as if she hadn't been someone who was always involved in everything in the family, as much as Philip
Incredible acting by all.
As if Her Maj needed her mum's advice after nearly 40 years on the throne. I know how much she loved her mother, but the Queen Mother was happy to dip her oar in wherever she wasn't wanted.
That’s why the RF couldn’t rid of the Victorian norms until Queen Mother’s death. Queen literally earned her complete autonomy after her mother’s death. Her mother had always been her advisor and she always got influenced by her mother’s opinions.
@@fahimfaisalmahir567I just wondered if from reading your response here, this is maybe at least part of the reason why the Queen never gave up her reign while she was alive for Charles to take over. She knew from both sides what it was like to have a previous monarch not fully able to relinquish their role, and how difficult it would be for King Charles to still have his mother the former queen alive during the beginning of his reign. She understood how hard it would be on them both from this kind of experience.
@@Loulizabeth British Monarchs do not generally abdicate. It is a taboo for them. Abdication breaks the very solemn oath they pledged before God when they were crowned. If they are unfit to work, they declare a regency and the regent performs the duty on behalf of the monarch. And there are 6 counsellors of state as well who take up the duties of the monarch in their absence. That's why in Queen's older days, most of her duties were performed by King Charles, Queen Camilla, William and Kate.
@@fahimfaisalmahir567 Thanks for that. I'm actually from Britain. I guess the media just didn't make that clear enough during her reign. In fact you had so many people in the media talking about why the Queen should step aside to allow Charles to have a longer reign, that I think there were possibly quite a few people not really knowing what the actual situation really was. Surely this should have been talked about more in the media to help people know what the real situation was.
@ 2:11 that older woman who says "i feel like one of those bright young people" ....she makes me smile every time
Both Queen Mother and Queen Mary had the same principles. The Crown is never weak, nor does it show any emotion or admits a failure.
"Never complain; never explain."
This kind of talk from the Queen Mother is a great example of why some royals don't deserve their royalty.
I'm sure some random modern dude understands royalty better than royalty, yes.
The queen mother was a major snob and tried being controlling even after she was just the queen mother.
❤
For Queen Mother she was always her little Lilibet.
She made the Queen to make up the "Queen mother" title 😂😂
How do you know this? Explain please
@@sarahmurphy8030 only because it would have been confusing to have two Queen Elizabeths
It's crazy how her mother lives on in her daughter's old age still coherent.
Victoria Hamilton was the best cast as Queen Mother.
Queen's "annus horribilis" was 1992.. Fire, divorces,etc..
For historians, 1997 wasn't a good year either. And the troubles were still going on.
@@falconeshieldin 1997, that moron Tony Blair took Britannia and refused to replace it. He played up his people's princess schtick.
Now: Her Late Majesty is as much loved in death as she was in life.
Blair? Despised and best forgotten.
The old dear never learned to step back did she. I’m sure there was a huge sense of exhausted relief when she eventually popped her clogs.
Thank you Phillip! Way to man up!
imagine you were raised the idea that you are better than the rest, I think the mother had difficulty to adapt to the changed world.
I think she felt that she had to be extra strong and forceful so often that once things cooled, she didn't know how to stop. Add upper class snobbery into the mix and you have a dangerous situation
Some people are better than most
“It could be interpreted as an admission…of our FEELINGS!”
Oooo God forbid 🙄
brilliant dialogue, brilliant acting, the 3 of them, but the QM steals the scene with the impetus of her “scolding” - great scene!!
I loved H.M. Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother. However, that being said...sometimes she acted like a bit of an "Ostrich ". She was basically acting the way Her Late Majesty Queen Mary did as well...previously
Does anyone else see Kate becoming a Queen Mary?
I cried so much during season 6.
Keep it coming with the crown scenes.
The actress that plays Queen Mummy was in a great episode of Keeping Up Appearances.
I just realized.. is that Bunty??? How's ole' Dorian??? 😂😂😂😂 so glad to see her! 😊 The Bucket woman actually was able to meet some royalty after all!
Gosh im gonna miss the amazing writing of this show
The Queen Mother's performance.....BRILLIANT
I would like them to stitch together the 3 Princess Margarets: Vanessa Kirby, Helena Bonham-Carter, and Leslie Manville.
the QUEEN MOTHER spent money...loved the publicity...EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS NO LONGER IN POWER
She was in power.
She never really had the power. Her husband was the one with the true power, but she was so danged bossy she tried her best to take over his reign. He let her get away with it quite a bit, especially in the very beginning and again when he was so ill at the end. She tried her best to continue after he died and caused a *lot* of conflict in Elizabeth's and Phillip's marriage with her interference. She was extremely strict with her older daughter and expected to be able to run her daughter's life after she ascended the throne, but Phillip managed to work around her and back up his wife.
Queen Elizabeth 11 was the greatest a human monarch ❤
It's always baffled me that the queen mother was reputed to be such a snob with her background. Her lineage/background is beneath that of a typical spouse of a monarch. Usually, spouses of monarchs are royal: princesses and princes. While her background was respectable since her family was aristocratic, it was beneath that of all other spouses of monarchs. She was not royal. I've also noted that she seemed to put on the biggest show with her waves and hand flourishes, which I never found to be dignified. No one else in the family waved in that manner. It has always seemed to me that she had something to prove and that being "queen-like" was something she had to put on.
There are plenty of middle class snobs that are all ego and no self awareness
Of course she had to put on a show to prove herself as real queen because she never would have imagined in her wildest dreams that one day she will become the future queen consort of England as she was a noble lady from a humble aristocrat family background who was married to a disabled spare prince.
She married the spare, not the heir, she was never supposed to be Queen Consort. Also by the 1920s the custom of marrying other royals was beginning to die out because WWI had wiped out a great deal of European monarchies. And again the wave she gave was actually how royals did wave in the earlier parts of the 20th century. You will see Queen Mary had the same wave.
Why would that surprise you? That's exactly how I would expect an insecure bourgeois person to behave.
Yes I've always found it odd she looked down on Philip who was more royal by birth than her or even Elizabeth was (because of the Queen mother's lineage). She really was a piece of work.
We can't blame the Queen mother too much there were other times , Thank God now we know better
Any royalty that doesn't have the word "apologies" in their vocabulary, does not deserve to be royalty
Not that I disagree with you, but the concepts of deserving, public opinion, and fairness have no place in an institution like monarchy. They get what they get because either they were born into or by marriage. No king or Queen ever got the throne because they deserved it, even if they were good people.
Great actors 👌
Queen Elizabeth's 'annus horribilis' speech made her more loved that almost anything in her long career.
The *Queen Mother* was always dropping facts about the role and expectations of the Monarchy
Had the Queen not made changes, the monarchy wouldn't still exist in Britain. This had to be done.
It seems to me that the Queen Mother and Tommy in earlier seasons were framed like the villains of The Crown. And rightly so it seems.
In literally every season of the show the Queen Mother was trying to make the monarchy as snobby and out of touch as possible
Totally out of touch with real life.
Interesting to think how different it might have been if she had not lived to be over a hundred. No one dared do anything without asking her permission. She had to be pandered to. Several others of her generation like Princess Mary and Princess Marina did not live to a great age, despite also being widowed young.
I think she played on it all her life and used as a stick to beat David and Wallis with.
Its a miracle the Queen never caved to her as we probably wouldn't have a monarchy by now... and this is coming from a fierce anti mornachist...
Great acting and cinematography. Good point about someone's privacy, obviously you're not responsible for anyone's actions but your own, but also the journalist made absolutely a great point highlighting how monarchy isn't legitimate.
Eu gosto que na hora o Philip aparece na hora defendendo Elizabeth.
"Monarchy is the only part of the constitution that has an element of the divine." Damn, in spite of its flaws that's a hell of a point.
Bro what no she didn’t 😅
No, that's what we call delusions of grandeur.
The Queen Mother- the one and only whom Hitler referred to as the most dangerous woman in Europe.
That's just spin by the Royal courtiers. Old Lizzy was a vacuous old bag
Sono discussioni tra madre e figlia siete voi tutti snob non la regina madre
And that was just on the bar bill.
"I know of no authority above that of the king"
"It is upon that issue, that this war was fought"
I heard that she hated Simpson because she had a thing for Edward VIII, herself and he preferred Wallis Simpson. The idea that she never forgave George 8 for putting her husband in a position that killed him is ludicrous as the man was responsible for smoking himself into lung cancer….
"Apology? That word shouldn't be in your vocabulary " Queen mother wanted to live vicariously through her
So beautiful
Never complain never explain
I’m not kidding this is a real motto for the royals
The Queen wanted her people to know that the Monarchy is regale, but also human. From birth they were taught to show only perfection, they weren't allowed to show feelings of sadness, regret or remorse, and I believe that was what made Elizabeth seem so cold hearted in her subjects eyes, just to uphold an ugly traditional standard.
I also believe that the reason Princess Diana was so loved by the people was not only by her charity and good deeds, but by her openness to show love and compassion. She never tried to tower herself over others and stayed humble until the very end.
God rest Queen Elizabeth.
And may God rest Princess Diana, a Queen the world didn't deserve.
@@heavencanwaite Queen came from a generation where showing emotions in public was frowned upon.
As much as I hate umbridge, I think that this is some of the best acting that this actress ever did.
The acting is stellar! 😃
To think being in "power" makes you better than anyone else is ridiculous. We all die just the same.
She was soo funny in vicious
"Mummy, meanwhile, back in the 21st Century..."
Yes, she wanted to keep things as they always were for her own benefit which meant being a spendthrift without responsibility or accountability.
Bunty!!! She was in “Keeping Up Appearances”. It’s wild she’s still acting! That’s awesome
Who recorded my mom and I talking? Rude.
No matter how old you get moms will always be momming
Professor Umbrige and the High Sparrow ....lovely couple
It worked very well. She is a human being and has feelings of her own not that they are any business of us commoners lol.
Yes motherrrrr
Mothers never know when to stop.
I couldn’t imagine my mother saying the word apology shouldn’t be in my vocabulary. That’s deep.
The Queen Mother was famously once described as a ‘marshmallow made on a welding machine’ and this scene further illustrates why
"This is because of the abdication!" - The Queen Mother, probably
It has been said that Queen Elizabeth II was said when her mother died, but also relieved of the burden of following her rules and the guilt she put upon current her family.
Am I the only one that did not take to the Queen mother. To me, she thought she was still Queen. But our Queen Elizabeth I as lots do miss her😢
Phillip looking like the damn skull emoji in the corner 💀
I'm not surprised at the QM's controlling, they got placed in the highest position of the land completely unexpectedly, anyone with that opportunity would do anything to keep it
Pride the queen mother was full of pride, thinks they don't make mistakes.
The Queen Mother was the one aspect of The Crown that I never liked. She was a famously approachable yet firm person, yet she was always portrayed as a mousey character. Marion Bailey was the only one who came close to portraying her as she really was, imo. I think Imelda Staunton would've been a great casting choice for the Queen Mother, but she did do great as the Queen herself.
It's disgusting, how mom talks like they're gods or some such garbage.
One of the established rights of monarchy is the divine righf, hence, why she speak that way
David, Duke of Windsor, said it was drilled into them as children, never forget who you are.
My Queen 😭😭
My mom when I tell her I’m depressed 😂😂
Queen mother like keeping up appearances. Says every thing
I love this show
Queen Mum was right the Queen wears the Crown and the Crown never bows
I was impressed by the Queen when she acknowledged that she was 'human'!
Ummm they are human
How Penelope get in the Palace
😂
Hard to forget Imelda Staunton as Knotgrass from Maleficent 🧚
The Queen Mother was played by Marcia Warren. She also played the senile but hilarious character Penelope in "Vicious".
Not sure about their choice in the character of queen mother, don’t think that was the best choice
"The Divine Right Of Fools"!
People gave her hell for not giving a public display of her pain, but Elizabeth put her job as a grandmother first. She had a 12 yr old & 16 yr old boy who had just suffered the greatest loss in a young man's life. I always respected her for that. Their mother had just been chased to her death by paparazzi...the same folks foaming at the mouth to get a pic of her sons in their agony... Ngl, it made me feel some type of way about the British people DEMANDING she expose her grief publicly. This speech was her compromise and imo it was far more than they "deserved"