A criticism for this book that nobody talks about is that Cope is inconsistent on the mass immigration issue. In the long term he's anti-mass immigration because it's obviously caused by imperialism. When imperialism ends, mass immigration will also end. But in the short term he's pro-mass immigration because it helps lower the labor aristocracy's wages. However, and I don't have any economic data to back this up, I don't think immigration alone can end the labor aristocracy cause the borders will never truly open up completely. All it'll probably do is turn the immigrants into labor aristocrats themselves. Even Immanuel Ness admitted that immigrants stop sending remittance money back home eventually. Whatever the case, Cope follows Lenin's example on the issue and takes a strictly materialist position on it despite the fact that it can be considered non-class oppression on the host nation, because they're taking in immigrants who can't readily assimilate. Which is inconsistent because Cope is against non-class oppression. He's stated he's against requiring women and non-white people taking a materialist/pure class struggle position since they're subject to non-class oppression. National demographic decline/replacement is a real phenomenon that should be opposed though, it's non-class oppression. The Native Americans were largely replaced in the name of materialism to build capitalism in North America at the expense of the natives. Now replacement is happening to the white European nations in the name of materialism to essentially build communism at the expense of the Europeans. You could argue they have it coming since it's their own doing through their imperialist actions. But we shouldn't let entire nations be replaced for the sake of materialism. Communists need to be speak out about this issue before it's too late. It's mass non-violent settler-immigration. And people who deny that white people are a nation should also remember that Lenin said black people in the U.S. were a nation. Cope said the same thing. If they're a nation then so are white people. And nations don't change based on oppression status. Communists also need to promote single nation countries and be against multi nation countries and/or unions. Nations need to govern themselves. It's the most logical position. Lenin and Stalin were both concerned about Russian chauvinism in the USSR. And it could've easily been solved by requiring single nation countries. A nation being current historical constitution resemblance and language. Or current race and language. But this is a great book that every communist should read. Even after Cope's defection to capitalism.
What a high level of revisionism! What is this "non-class oppression" you speak of, and how is it delinked from the global capitalist system? The patriarchy, settler-colonialism, homophobia etc. are all linked to capitalism and it's historical conditions. Engels already elaborated on this over 100 years ago, what's your excuse for blaming some impotent version of "materialism" for their oppression? And more egregiously, equating communist demands with settler colonialism, and impoverished immigrants with settlers, pretending that the white Europeans who benefit of imperialism are equal to the native Americans. You call yourself a communist but in reality your viewpoints completely align with the fascist reactionaries. You are a chauvinist of the highest order and your appropiation of communist terms do not fool anyone.
@@madcube1581 There are two main categories of oppression, class (financial) and non-class (non-financial). By non-class oppression I mean the imperialist white European nations are being non-class oppressed by immigration, but not class oppressed since they're labor aristocrats (workers who are not exploited). And this non-class oppression is linked to imperialism, because mass immigration wouldn't exist if imperialism didn't exist. For the sake of clarity, forget about the settlers in the U.S. for a moment and consider that the white European nations in Europe, who are natives themselves and not settlers, are also being replaced. I'm sorry reality bothers you, but communists need to take replacement seriously. I am a communist. White separatists can also be communists, you learned something new today. And the fact that you're promoting identity politics by comparing ridiculous topics like "homophobia" alongside serious topics like the patriarchy and settler-colonialism shows you're less of a communist than me. And bringing Engels into this doesn't work because he stated in 1845 that he was against Irish immigration into England. This was before he learned of the labor aristocracy, but it's still relevant. I actually disagree with Engels here anyways though because European-Irish (white-Irish) people can readily assimilate into the European- English (white-English) nation. They just had to learn English to assimilate. So using them to lower English wages is fine in this instance. Although it's not a thing that the Irish population decreased because of it. It's also amusing you call me a chauvinist for this, but don't hold the same consistency towards Marx and Engels, who made plenty of chauvinist statements against non-white people lol.
@@user-ke1gu9bx1eYour gripe of seeming "replacement" is because of Imperialism. These immigrants from Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, multiple areas of Africa, Iraq, Syria etc are all arriving because of the actions taken by your State and ruling class, ultimately supported and enabled by the masses of Europe. None of this would be occuring without this and to compare the actual plight of ACTUAL Native Americans to your own self induced incel crisis is amazing. Astonishing feat. Marx and Engles chauvinistic statements are merely comments immersed in the material realities of their time, yours however aren't.
@@user-ke1gu9bx1eZak Cope has now degenerated into an open Zionist and defender of "free markets" following the beginning of the genocide in Gaza because of his own background as a Northern Irish loyalist. His brain broke, this just shows you how fake many European "Communists" are, at the drop of a hat they go straight back to being Imperialists when push comes ti shove because their continued life in luxury depends on the subjugation of those in the Global South. Europeans aren't being "replaced" there's no "genocide" occuring, they just don't have children anymore and most of the immigrants arriving are working age due to the structure of unequal exchange and imperialism.
A criticism for this book that nobody talks about is that Cope is inconsistent on the mass immigration issue.
In the long term he's anti-mass immigration because it's obviously caused by imperialism. When imperialism ends, mass immigration will also end. But in the short term he's pro-mass immigration because it helps lower the labor aristocracy's wages. However, and I don't have any economic data to back this up, I don't think immigration alone can end the labor aristocracy cause the borders will never truly open up completely. All it'll probably do is turn the immigrants into labor aristocrats themselves. Even Immanuel Ness admitted that immigrants stop sending remittance money back home eventually.
Whatever the case, Cope follows Lenin's example on the issue and takes a strictly materialist position on it despite the fact that it can be considered non-class oppression on the host nation, because they're taking in immigrants who can't readily assimilate. Which is inconsistent because Cope is against non-class oppression. He's stated he's against requiring women and non-white people taking a materialist/pure class struggle position since they're subject to non-class oppression.
National demographic decline/replacement is a real phenomenon that should be opposed though, it's non-class oppression. The Native Americans were largely replaced in the name of materialism to build capitalism in North America at the expense of the natives. Now replacement is happening to the white European nations in the name of materialism to essentially build communism at the expense of the Europeans. You could argue they have it coming since it's their own doing through their imperialist actions. But we shouldn't let entire nations be replaced for the sake of materialism. Communists need to be speak out about this issue before it's too late. It's mass non-violent settler-immigration.
And people who deny that white people are a nation should also remember that Lenin said black people in the U.S. were a nation. Cope said the same thing. If they're a nation then so are white people. And nations don't change based on oppression status.
Communists also need to promote single nation countries and be against multi nation countries and/or unions. Nations need to govern themselves. It's the most logical position. Lenin and Stalin were both concerned about Russian chauvinism in the USSR. And it could've easily been solved by requiring single nation countries. A nation being current historical constitution resemblance and language. Or current race and language.
But this is a great book that every communist should read. Even after Cope's defection to capitalism.
What a high level of revisionism! What is this "non-class oppression" you speak of, and how is it delinked from the global capitalist system?
The patriarchy, settler-colonialism, homophobia etc. are all linked to capitalism and it's historical conditions. Engels already elaborated on this over 100 years ago, what's your excuse for blaming some impotent version of "materialism" for their oppression?
And more egregiously, equating communist demands with settler colonialism, and impoverished immigrants with settlers, pretending that the white Europeans who benefit of imperialism are equal to the native Americans.
You call yourself a communist but in reality your viewpoints completely align with the fascist reactionaries. You are a chauvinist of the highest order and your appropiation of communist terms do not fool anyone.
@@madcube1581 There are two main categories of oppression, class (financial) and non-class (non-financial). By non-class oppression I mean the imperialist white European nations are being non-class oppressed by immigration, but not class oppressed since they're labor aristocrats (workers who are not exploited). And this non-class oppression is linked to imperialism, because mass immigration wouldn't exist if imperialism didn't exist.
For the sake of clarity, forget about the settlers in the U.S. for a moment and consider that the white European nations in Europe, who are natives themselves and not settlers, are also being replaced.
I'm sorry reality bothers you, but communists need to take replacement seriously. I am a communist. White separatists can also be communists, you learned something new today. And the fact that you're promoting identity politics by comparing ridiculous topics like "homophobia" alongside serious topics like the patriarchy and settler-colonialism shows you're less of a communist than me.
And bringing Engels into this doesn't work because he stated in 1845 that he was against Irish immigration into England. This was before he learned of the labor aristocracy, but it's still relevant. I actually disagree with Engels here anyways though because European-Irish (white-Irish) people can readily assimilate into the European- English (white-English) nation. They just had to learn English to assimilate. So using them to lower English wages is fine in this instance. Although it's not a thing that the Irish population decreased because of it.
It's also amusing you call me a chauvinist for this, but don't hold the same consistency towards Marx and Engels, who made plenty of chauvinist statements against non-white people lol.
@@user-ke1gu9bx1eGo and have more children lmao, immigrants aren't to blame because European reproduction rates are pathetic.
@@user-ke1gu9bx1eYour gripe of seeming "replacement" is because of Imperialism. These immigrants from Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, multiple areas of Africa, Iraq, Syria etc are all arriving because of the actions taken by your State and ruling class, ultimately supported and enabled by the masses of Europe. None of this would be occuring without this and to compare the actual plight of ACTUAL Native Americans to your own self induced incel crisis is amazing. Astonishing feat. Marx and Engles chauvinistic statements are merely comments immersed in the material realities of their time, yours however aren't.
@@user-ke1gu9bx1eZak Cope has now degenerated into an open Zionist and defender of "free markets" following the beginning of the genocide in Gaza because of his own background as a Northern Irish loyalist. His brain broke, this just shows you how fake many European "Communists" are, at the drop of a hat they go straight back to being Imperialists when push comes ti shove because their continued life in luxury depends on the subjugation of those in the Global South. Europeans aren't being "replaced" there's no "genocide" occuring, they just don't have children anymore and most of the immigrants arriving are working age due to the structure of unequal exchange and imperialism.