Finally someone posted a video for this! I bought myself an APX A1 a few months ago as a birthday present for myself and to get the rebate. I ordered the Trijicon mounting plate from Beretta, and I just started to look at mounting a Holosum HS507C on it last weekend. Thinking that the same screw holes for the factory cover plate would be reused, I noticed that 2 holes in the new mounting plate did not match. Beretta has no information about this on their web site or with their mounting plate, prompting me to call Beretta today. I was assured that by removing the factory cover plate I would indeed be able to view how to attach my red dot. Being wary of removing anything installed at the factory without knowing specifically what to expect, I appreciate your video immensely. Beretta did include longer screws with their Trijicon plate kit, and I am hoping that I do not run into the same issue you faced. The screws also appear to have a dry thread locker substance on them. I guess I will find out tomorrow when I try again.
Hey Bud, please update us about your progress I am looking to get the APX A1 compact. I also have a Holosun 507 C, that I would like to install on my next purchase. Looking forward to seeing your setup.
@@ASapWheelie Part of the reason why I am hesitant about getting the APX is because of the issue with optics. I think the Trijicon plate should work but the screws are an issue from what I read. Also holsters are a B**** to find.
@citadelchase8858 ive heard you can request longer screws in your order notes or through email support. its been mixed so far. it sucks cuz this is the first time ive taken a chance on an optics cut gun because i like how the OG apx felt and this is the same gun basically. ill be irritated if i cant figure out a solution shortly for the optics stuff.
@@ASapWheelie It's worth a shot, worst come to worse take a trip to home depot. I really wish Beretta was more proactive when it came to customer support.
I'm not a red dot guy but as an APX fan I want to thank you for making a video to address this. Still the best deal on the market for an optic cut pistol even if the process is somewhat confusing at first.
I think that optic cuts will become more and more common from now on. I remember when mounting an optic meant waiting a month for a gunsmith to mill the slide for hundreds of dollars. I'm just glad it's becoming more and more accessible, even if people don't use it. Thanks for watching!
This is very helpful, thank you. Stinks, Beretta used to give you one free optic plate if you registered your warranty. That being said, paying $300 for the gun (including rebate) makes paying for screws and an optics plate more than palatable.
I was hesitant about buying one of these because of how they’re priced (thinking it’s cheap) but I absolutely love it. Most ergonomic piece I have. My only complaint would be the trigger. It’s a little spongy. Doesn’t affect it as far as durability and reliability; minor complaint. Awesome gun!
The reason you feel like the factory plate screws were easy to strip with a standard Allen key is because those aren't Allen screws. They're TORX, and you need a TORX key to be able to tighten those down properly without stripping. Allen key will strip away those 'starred' TORX edges.
I was a new owner of the APX A1, excitingly got a Bushnell RXS-100 thinking it would be plug and play. Later found out I need an optic plate, fair enough, coughed up 35 bucks for a Leupold optic plate, plate came and fit, problem was the screws that came with it are wayyy too long. In the US M3.5 screws with that specific thread pitch and countersunk is close to non-existence, ended up having to order 2 screws all the way from UK for another 30 bucks (5 for the screws and 25 for shipping.. ouch). Am I happy with the result? yeah kinda, after zeroed the optic performed quite well and accurate. But the whole process was a pain.
While my experience wasnt as rough as yours, I definitely think that Beretta throwing in a plate or two and some good screws in the box would have REALLY helped with customer experiences like yours. Glad you got it squared away though. Thanks for watching!
I had same issue when I bought mine in October. The other problem is the Allen heads are so small and chincy they are rounded out and can’t remove. Had to send gun in for warranty work last week and couldn’t take optic off. I told Beretta to take it off and give me some real screws. Will see what happens.
@@realpracticaltactical The screws that come with the Leupold DPP plate are plenty long enough. However, a 5/64" bit DOES NOT fit the screw properly when tightening. As best I could discover through internet searches, you will need a 2mm bit to fit those screws. When I find one, I'll report my results.
Something else to know, Berettas dovetail sight cut is "proprietary". Meaning your aftermarket choices are limited be it regular sights or supressor height.
I have the APX A1 Tactical and SwampFox green dot optic that I mounted without the mounting adapter. I've tried to zero it with a 9mm sight tool...I've lowered the green dot as far as possible, but it's still above the sight tool beam. Will the mounting adapter fix that issue?
@@jodokast2000 I love these guns, but that's pretty disappointing. Seems like quite the oversight / missed opportunity... Or a glaring indicator of greed.
@@lilyvogrin3271 there were supposed to be screws that came with the optic plate I ordered from Beretta, but there weren’t. I contacted Beretta and they sent me the screws for free. Unfortunately, the screws wouldn’t stay tight even with loctite, cheap pot metal screws. I have optics on a half dozen other Handguns with no issues and have an inch-lb torque wrench and name brand loctite, letting it harden for 48 hours before shooting. I gave up on putting an optic on the gun and am saving the optic for another gun in the future. Great gun, very accurate, reliable, still use it for home defense if I can’t get to my AR.
can someone tell me which plate will allow me to mount an optic with the RMR/407C/507C footprint? im looking at a Cyelee ct2 or wolf0 greendot for my apx a1 compact. thanks for anyone who can help❤
No firearms manufacturer should be making slides that aren't cut for some standard optic. I feel like everyone wants to be able to cowitness and these designs make that basically impossible.
I feel like its not the cut being shallow so much as it is having the right height sights, which is a simple fix. For me, bottom line if its optic cut it should come with cowitness sights. Thanks for watiching!
Beretta mess it up with this "Optics ready" I came across your video because I'm having this similar problem, but the screws not even engage at all.. 😢
To anyone watching this I’ve had the same exact issue on my apx a-1 tactical while mounting primary arms slx rs 10. The screws have very little contact and after doing some simple research most screw kits on Amazon will have multiple length screws that will work
Same problem here!! On top of the optic nonsense I can’t get this gun to run. FTE’s galore!!!! I can’t get a mag down range tried everything all different ammo 115 124 147 no good. Sent gun back to beretta three weeks later got gun back stating nothing wrong with gun??????? Taking it back to range tomorrow I’ll let you know what happens
Finally someone posted a video for this! I bought myself an APX A1 a few months ago as a birthday present for myself and to get the rebate. I ordered the Trijicon mounting plate from Beretta, and I just started to look at mounting a Holosum HS507C on it last weekend. Thinking that the same screw holes for the factory cover plate would be reused, I noticed that 2 holes in the new mounting plate did not match. Beretta has no information about this on their web site or with their mounting plate, prompting me to call Beretta today. I was assured that by removing the factory cover plate I would indeed be able to view how to attach my red dot. Being wary of removing anything installed at the factory without knowing specifically what to expect, I appreciate your video immensely. Beretta did include longer screws with their Trijicon plate kit, and I am hoping that I do not run into the same issue you faced. The screws also appear to have a dry thread locker substance on them. I guess I will find out tomorrow when I try again.
Hey Bud, please update us about your progress I am looking to get the APX A1 compact. I also have a Holosun 507 C, that I would like to install on my next purchase. Looking forward to seeing your setup.
hello, so youre saying you used the trijicon apx a1 plate to mount your 507c? Did it work? any update appreciated.
@@ASapWheelie Part of the reason why I am hesitant about getting the APX is because of the issue with optics. I think the Trijicon plate should work but the screws are an issue from what I read. Also holsters are a B**** to find.
@citadelchase8858 ive heard you can request longer screws in your order notes or through email support. its been mixed so far. it sucks cuz this is the first time ive taken a chance on an optics cut gun because i like how the OG apx felt and this is the same gun basically. ill be irritated if i cant figure out a solution shortly for the optics stuff.
@@ASapWheelie It's worth a shot, worst come to worse take a trip to home depot. I really wish Beretta was more proactive when it came to customer support.
I'm not a red dot guy but as an APX fan I want to thank you for making a video to address this. Still the best deal on the market for an optic cut pistol even if the process is somewhat confusing at first.
I think that optic cuts will become more and more common from now on. I remember when mounting an optic meant waiting a month for a gunsmith to mill the slide for hundreds of dollars. I'm just glad it's becoming more and more accessible, even if people don't use it. Thanks for watching!
This is very helpful, thank you. Stinks, Beretta used to give you one free optic plate if you registered your warranty. That being said, paying $300 for the gun (including rebate) makes paying for screws and an optics plate more than palatable.
Totally agree. Its easy to complain but think of how the idea of a $300 Beretta would have sounded like 15 years ago! Thanks for watching
Mine came with an Allen key and a cleaning tool, have you checked behind the foam? That’s where I found it.
so helpful for info I could not find anywhere on the web..thank you!
It's what I'm here for! Glad to help
I was hesitant about buying one of these because of how they’re priced (thinking it’s cheap) but I absolutely love it. Most ergonomic piece I have. My only complaint would be the trigger. It’s a little spongy. Doesn’t affect it as far as durability and reliability; minor complaint. Awesome gun!
tactical compact is on the way with the raised sights for a can. I will see if those clear for co-witnessing.
Keep us posted, I'm definitely interested in testing a set of cowitness/suppressor height sights. Thanks for watching!
Any luck on sights??
They don’t clear but aftermarket taller sights are available
The reason you feel like the factory plate screws were easy to strip with a standard Allen key is because those aren't Allen screws. They're TORX, and you need a TORX key to be able to tighten those down properly without stripping. Allen key will strip away those 'starred' TORX edges.
What is the screw size and pitch? The screws sent by Beretta are too short?
Great video, quick and helpful. It would be nice if you added a link or description of the screws needed. FYI, many of the links on your blog post.
Swampfox box had the proper screws in my case. Tactical tall sights do cowitness.
That answers my question, thanks.
I was a new owner of the APX A1, excitingly got a Bushnell RXS-100 thinking it would be plug and play. Later found out I need an optic plate, fair enough, coughed up 35 bucks for a Leupold optic plate, plate came and fit, problem was the screws that came with it are wayyy too long. In the US M3.5 screws with that specific thread pitch and countersunk is close to non-existence, ended up having to order 2 screws all the way from UK for another 30 bucks (5 for the screws and 25 for shipping.. ouch). Am I happy with the result? yeah kinda, after zeroed the optic performed quite well and accurate. But the whole process was a pain.
While my experience wasnt as rough as yours, I definitely think that Beretta throwing in a plate or two and some good screws in the box would have REALLY helped with customer experiences like yours. Glad you got it squared away though. Thanks for watching!
I had same issue when I bought mine in October. The other problem is the Allen heads are so small and chincy they are rounded out and can’t remove. Had to send gun in for warranty work last week and couldn’t take optic off. I told Beretta to take it off and give me some real screws. Will see what happens.
What the hell was that audio glitch at 2:34. I thought my speakers farted.
Any tips for a stripped screw ?
Drill
Thanks for the heads-up!
Thanks for watching!
@@realpracticaltactical The screws that come with the Leupold DPP plate are plenty long enough. However, a 5/64" bit DOES NOT fit the screw properly when tightening. As best I could discover through internet searches, you will need a 2mm bit to fit those screws. When I find one, I'll report my results.
Something else to know, Berettas dovetail sight cut is "proprietary". Meaning your aftermarket choices are limited be it regular sights or supressor height.
Interesting. I didn’t know this. Any suggestions for co-witness irons?
Do you have accessory recommendations for the apx 1 A1?
Thanks for the info
I have the APX A1 Tactical and SwampFox green dot optic that I mounted without the mounting adapter. I've tried to zero it with a 9mm sight tool...I've lowered the green dot as far as possible, but it's still above the sight tool beam. Will the mounting adapter fix that issue?
I’m trying to put a SIG SAUER RomeoZero Elite red dot on my Apx A1 but can’t find the plate that would fit it on their page.
I guess is there a proper optic that will allow it to cowitness?
SUPER.. APX A1 ❤
Thanks for watching!
The screws they supplied are huge You ever figure out the thread pitch?
Wait, so there’s no red dot foot print that will automatically work with the apx? It has to have an adapter plate?
Yes a plate is needed.
@@jodokast2000 I love these guns, but that's pretty disappointing. Seems like quite the oversight / missed opportunity... Or a glaring indicator of greed.
Bummer..iive never ever had a optics before and im still learning a ton..sounding like it can be a process.
The complete lack of co-witness I also do not like. I have the 507c on mine. Any suggestions for co-witness irons?
E02416 - Beretta M9A3/92 Vertec Suppressor Height Sights. Available on the Beretta web site. These fit on the APX-A1 full size.
Anyones has ever find an holster for apx a1 with light and red dot? thanks to all of you
Did you ever figure out what length of screws and thread pitch you needed?
Did you figure it out?
@@lilyvogrin3271 there were supposed to be screws that came with the optic plate I ordered from Beretta, but there weren’t. I contacted Beretta and they sent me the screws for free.
Unfortunately, the screws wouldn’t stay tight even with loctite, cheap pot metal screws. I have optics on a half dozen other Handguns with no issues and have an inch-lb torque wrench and name brand loctite, letting it harden for 48 hours before shooting. I gave up on putting an optic on the gun and am saving the optic for another gun in the future.
Great gun, very accurate, reliable, still use it for home defense if I can’t get to my AR.
can someone tell me which plate will allow me to mount an optic with the RMR/407C/507C footprint?
im looking at a Cyelee ct2 or wolf0 greendot for my apx a1 compact.
thanks for anyone who can help❤
Where can I order the footprint from. Your link is doo doo
What red dot is that and where can I find it
Optic is a Swampfox Justice. Direct links are on the blog! Thanks for watching 👍🏽
No firearms manufacturer should be making slides that aren't cut for some standard optic. I feel like everyone wants to be able to cowitness and these designs make that basically impossible.
I feel like its not the cut being shallow so much as it is having the right height sights, which is a simple fix. For me, bottom line if its optic cut it should come with cowitness sights. Thanks for watiching!
Beretta mess it up with this "Optics ready" I came across your video because I'm having this similar problem, but the screws not even engage at all.. 😢
How to contact you😀
shoot me an email! practicaltacticalblog@gmail.com
To anyone watching this I’ve had the same exact issue on my apx a-1 tactical while mounting primary arms slx rs 10. The screws have very little contact and after doing some simple research most screw kits on Amazon will have multiple length screws that will work
Now the steel sights are optic height.
You mean on the tactical version? Beretta doesn’t even sell those sights.
Same problem here!! On top of the optic nonsense I can’t get this gun to run. FTE’s galore!!!! I can’t get a mag down range tried everything all different ammo 115 124 147 no good. Sent gun back to beretta three weeks later got gun back stating nothing wrong with gun??????? Taking it back to range tomorrow I’ll let you know what happens
Sounds like....user error? Did you figure out your virtually unheard of issues with this gun? Running a Silencer?
@@harpsitardomine runs fine even with a heavy aluminum hill Billy home built can on it.
After a glock 32 would not.
glad i dont want an optic on this pistol its a great deal without
Shoot a video eh? Eh? Eh? I'll see myself out
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