@@MrCcfly No one ever knows what Spectrasonics is thinking or what they have in development. I'm guessing it would be too risky to go the hardware route, knowing how much years and time they invested in Omnisphere. I think a hardware stage piano would become a big x-factor in the market for their favor!
My god... it's beautiful! Exactly what I've been after! The headache of running everything through a laptop on stage is a real bummer every time, but this thing giving access to your vlab and pigments presets!? Total gamechanger. Gonna have to start saving up my pennies!
@@hvhvgitaar Sell me something I can use without needing to put on a pair of glasses. At arms length that screen is just small enough that it is unusable for a lot of people that use glasses. This was a design choice, and my musical instrument buying opinion, that screen is not a selling feature.
Great video guys. But Arturia, how is this different from just getting the Keylab and Analog Lab for 1/10 of the price and maybe some extra Analog V synths?
@@cemdasou With all these sounds and functions its a creative machine for inspiration in a homestudio. But for this it lacks the 88 Keys for me. For the Live Stage or traveling its probably better like this, but I prefer more the 76 keys when Im on the stage. Important for stuff like Sound/Patch Splitting on the Keys for a Pad/Bass on the left hand and a Lead on the right. So I probably stay with the Roland Fantom 08 by this pricepoint.😏 For around 800 bucks the Arturia Astrolab will be more a consideration, but for over 1400€ I find this way overpriced for a 61 key synth. There are better alternatives for way less money.
Nice vid eo, and you Anderton's folks rule! Will you guys do a shoot-out between Astrolab and similarly-priced stage keyboards from Korg, Yamaha, Roland, and Casio? Many bonus points if you get Mike Patrick involved, too.
Both my Modx and MPC key have 7" touchscreens and cost less than this. He says oh there's a space for your phone, why not put a bloody screen there. Do you get a discount if you've already bought all the software?
Fun fact, if you read the small print you don't own the software only the hardware, if they didn't want you to use the software at any point they could.
I love it…but having Keylab 2 and Analog V I see no reason to buy this considering the Keylab has many more controls and is 1/3rd the price. Dude. The entire left side has NOTHING. Help me out.
This is for people who are nervous about taking a laptop to a gig. Those things are flimsy and easily break. Depending on where you're playing, they're also easily knocked over by drunks.
It blows my mind when people complain about a small screen. Are they going to play keyboards or watch a movie on the thing? This is clearly a preset machine for the keyboard player. The issue of tweaking the s**t out of the sounds or building your own presets goes deeper than a small screen. First you have to buy the software that only runs on computer, and second you can’t go that deep into sound design on this device anyway even if it had a 44” monitor attached to it. It’s designed to only run analog lab which is basically a preset library and not the full versions of the software instruments.
@@I.M.Guitar-Nerd In that case I understand if your vision is bad. But obviously this is designed for people who play the keys that have purchased the V collection and do all the editing at home and take this out to play the presets they’ve made or someone who just likes Arturia’s presets. My guess is they’re trying to keep the cost down since building something that would tweak all the sounds and have a ton of knobs all over it would be as much as a Fantom or a Montage.
@@spiralminus That bad vision you mention is as simple as anyone using reading glasses. And I get the bit about it using sounds designed at home and used in a gig, but if you have to put on reading glasses so know which preset you are on that is a fail in my book. As for cost, that fancy little screen, which is obviously not an off the self part, probably cost a lot more that a simple LCD used for a phone.. It's a fashion choice that places form over function.
It’s gorgeous. It sounds amazing. It’s not meant to be a new sound though, it’s a new form factor. The screen is kinda different, nice. If it were $500 I’d really want it. This is meant for keyboard players not for synth freaks!
but is not 100 % physical modelling, it's using samples too. Since Augmented strings, augmented piano, the Fairlight CMI, and some pigment prestes use samples like all the granular stuff from pigments.
It is basically a workstation without an arranger. I'm guessing pricing was based on the cost of buying the plugins separately. Which to be fair, if you were planning on buying all of their plugins than this is a steal... Then again the number of people in that boat is probably quite small.
@@AndoShy It has absolutely nothing to do with a workstation. It’s more like a keyboard with a lot of sounds. Workstations are feature packed with useful things for a lot of areas of musical execution, which this is not.
It’s a nice concept … having your library in a box without computer… but indeed, this is not a workstation. (For example,It has only 2 parts and polyphony is too low ) Should be nice to have more live control … more buttons for sound editing, also a professional internal power, bigger keyboard (73 version … at least 😊) I hope there’s also a lock system for buttons. I’m wondering about the sound, what kind of output in a live gig. I should say, it’s a good start for something better 😊
For less than half the cost you can get a Korg Wavestate mk 2 with up to 4 layers, more polyphony, deeper sound design options and sounds as good or better than this.
I think they push to much gear out too fast and wish they would spend more money on construction. I would be scared taking it on a stage because how dodgy their faders can be.
OK nice device, but not for me. I hate it when i can't edit sounds the way I like. If this allowed you to actually design your own sounds using all these engines from the device itself, with perhaps some more dedicated knobs, buttons and sliders, this would be something I'd consider. Also no poly aftertouch is kindof a step back for me. Oh well next time then eh?
Realistically, some of the soft synths (e.g. Pigments) have so many controls you’d need a touch screen. Knobs and faders would never be enough. You can easily edit sounds when you plug it into your computer and run Analog Lab and save your edits to the keyboard. In the end, you spend 95% of the time playing music instead of designing your sound.
@@hvhvgitaar Right, but you could still make a generic layout for most common functions which most synths share. Most of them have oscs, envelopes, filters, LFO's etc, so that would be really helpful if you could change those on the fly. Something like a System 8 layout would work wonders, I think. The downside of course would be that it'd be a more expensive synth.
@@payt01 As the dude in the video said, this is more of a stage piano layout. They put the basic most common controls on there. All the deep editing is done via software. The function of this is the ability to design sounds in the studio, transfer them to your hardware, and go use them live.
Gonna have to say no on this one. I do like the direction this instrument goes, but for me, it doesn't go far enough for the price. I like the ability to 1 for 1 transfer custom sounds to a hardware keyboard. I like the sleek design of it. But, there's so many features it's missing that other keyboards have at this price range. It seems to me that Arturia is banking on their name sake and popularity of their software to carry this product, including their Pigments software, now in a box. I understand this is a "stage piano" type of instrument, but the other selling points being pushed make me think there should be more to it than what's on offer. This seems like it should be a $800 to $1000 product.
I honestly didnt like this when it first came out. However, on reflection I have V collection and pigments. I have a full studio of Synths and Grooveboxs. This is essential. And probably get an Akai MPC 37 keys and Take 5/Teo 5/ ASM Explorer.... Hmmmmm. GAS.
Nice keyboard, but I have to say, I don't know who it's for. Maybe it's a modern version of a family home keyboard. Gigging or aspiring musicians have keyboards that cover the two main roles of chords/accompaniment and solo/melody, from manufacturers such as Nord, Sequential, Yamaha, Roland, ... . In the studio there is a large main control keyboard and several other keyboards. Everything is connected to a PC on which there are several SW synthesizers/keyboards, e.g. Arturia V-Collection or other collections of vintage sounds, Pigments, Spectrasonic Omnisphere ... . No keyboard is required that hosts SW synthesizers directly, stand alone.
Need to make the screen smaller cause theres not enough space on top. I mean knobs??? Really? That’s so yesterday doesn’t Arturia know that our soon installed brain chips will let us telepathically move knobs? Jeeeeeez
Love Oz but need Jack 😥 Not Archuria man but Arturia 😑 This is great but needs more keys, bigger screen and more sliders/knobs. Pigments and a lot of the V Collection are fantastic. I have it and use it regularly. It looks beautiful and undoubtedly sounds good but why would I buy this over a Modx 7 Plus? Also, this guy barely played. Felt this didn't really demo the product that well. Not sure if this guy is a playernor not but even the playing at the end was uninspiring.
Is it racist or nationalist to say that the English cadence does this thing where, they sorta fall off, then it gets slower, and then it gets SO quiet at the end of phrase, to the point that, that my American ears can not follow the conversation? "THIS SYNTH DOES Some things tttthhhhaaatt...(whispered muddle)?" PS:: Sorry UK...love you.
as much as I like what yo are doing I must admit that your com sounds a little like those Honest Joe services. Why would you call your digital products Analog? it s as if the word analog itself would suffice to justify the price, this is clearly a com issue strategy that sounds a bit cheesy
Kind of a fantastic reuse of the Nest Thermostat, haha 💞
I imagine you can also set the temperature in your house using it as well.
Where's JACK?!!
Woaah, i was not expecting this! I'm litteraly throwing money at my computer screeen!!
What Spectrasonics should have done with Omnisphere/Keyscape. I would buy an 88-key version of this Astro Lab for sure.
With poly at
Mozart and Beethoven never played 88 keys but this size 😉
wonder why they never made one hw synth with omni key trilian loaded ,,
@@MrCcfly No one ever knows what Spectrasonics is thinking or what they have in development. I'm guessing it would be too risky to go the hardware route, knowing how much years and time they invested in Omnisphere. I think a hardware stage piano would become a big x-factor in the market for their favor!
That’s exactly what I am waiting for
My god... it's beautiful! Exactly what I've been after! The headache of running everything through a laptop on stage is a real bummer every time, but this thing giving access to your vlab and pigments presets!? Total gamechanger.
Gonna have to start saving up my pennies!
Wot no poly aftertouch?
There is still so much space left...and then such a small display
I have a bigger screen on my watch.
It’s a musical instrument, not a games console…
@@hvhvgitaar Small screens are just stupid mate... we are not asking for an Ipad screen, but clear display to read is just common sense.
On a studio keyboard, I would completely agree, for stage performances, I kinda dig the smaller, understated screen going on here.
@@hvhvgitaar Sell me something I can use without needing to put on a pair of glasses. At arms length that screen is just small enough that it is unusable for a lot of people that use glasses. This was a design choice, and my musical instrument buying opinion, that screen is not a selling feature.
Great video guys. But Arturia, how is this different from just getting the Keylab and Analog Lab for 1/10 of the price and maybe some extra Analog V synths?
I think there are a good few extra sounds on that, or like what you said what's the point.
Analog Lab requires a PC and a keyboard. This is all in one. Tidy. Power on and play. It's not a synth its a stage keyboard.
Doses it come int Black ??
It will
Thanks for posting.
If this was 16-part multitimbral with a suite of knobs and sliders, they’d be getting somewhere. I’ll stick with my Kronos.
I’m good with my NumaX GT and V9 collection, thanks.
Hi! Is the key bed the same as found on Keylab mk2?
Now that Jack’s back - I’d love to hear his take on the Astrolab!
I want a 88 Key Version with Modwheel and Pitchbend on the Left side. Then Im in ;)
For stage this is the perfect compromise. I wouldn’t like to carry 88 keys around plus another extra. This is just perfect for any car or plane etc
and poly aftertouch would make it a slam dunk
@@SamLowryDZ-015 I mean it has aftertouch.
@@cemdasou With all these sounds and functions its a creative machine for inspiration in a homestudio. But for this it lacks the 88 Keys for me.
For the Live Stage or traveling its probably better like this, but I prefer more the 76 keys when Im on the stage. Important for stuff like Sound/Patch Splitting on the Keys for a Pad/Bass on the left hand and a Lead on the right.
So I probably stay with the Roland Fantom 08 by this pricepoint.😏
For around 800 bucks the Arturia Astrolab will be more a consideration, but for over 1400€ I find this way overpriced for a 61 key synth. There are better alternatives for way less money.
but not poly AT@@marcusunivers
Nice vid eo, and you Anderton's folks rule!
Will you guys do a shoot-out between Astrolab and similarly-priced stage keyboards from Korg, Yamaha, Roland, and Casio?
Many bonus points if you get Mike Patrick involved, too.
How do you get sounds without a laptop? What do I need?
How can I buy one to Ghana
Looks so clean. Incredible lack of control. I feel like we just went back to the 80s and 90s.
I'm sure even in the 80s/90s had more control
Please please can we get Jack & Mike to do one for this two 🙏?
Both my Modx and MPC key have 7" touchscreens and cost less than this. He says oh there's a space for your phone, why not put a bloody screen there. Do you get a discount if you've already bought all the software?
Fun fact, if you read the small print you don't own the software only the hardware, if they didn't want you to use the software at any point they could.
I love it…but having Keylab 2 and Analog V I see no reason to buy this considering the Keylab has many more controls and is 1/3rd the price. Dude. The entire left side has NOTHING. Help me out.
Will some company just put all the dials and wheels directly above the keys please?
Love the concept, but too pricey for me. Always wanted Pigments in hardware.
Sorry but this still doesnt replace a laptop and proper midi controller with faders, pads, oh ya also a big screen.
This is for people who are nervous about taking a laptop to a gig. Those things are flimsy and easily break. Depending on where you're playing, they're also easily knocked over by drunks.
Just plug it in and play any sound 🤩 why does anyone playing needs anything like screens or such distractions. I would add a touché or else
That screen small ah hell
It blows my mind when people complain about a small screen. Are they going to play keyboards or watch a movie on the thing? This is clearly a preset machine for the keyboard player. The issue of tweaking the s**t out of the sounds or building your own presets goes deeper than a small screen. First you have to buy the software that only runs on computer, and second you can’t go that deep into sound design on this device anyway even if it had a 44” monitor attached to it. It’s designed to only run analog lab which is basically a preset library and not the full versions of the software instruments.
Exactly.
I'm guessing you don't wear glasses yet.
@@I.M.Guitar-Nerd In that case I understand if your vision is bad. But obviously this is designed for people who play the keys that have purchased the V collection and do all the editing at home and take this out to play the presets they’ve made or someone who just likes Arturia’s presets. My guess is they’re trying to keep the cost down since building something that would tweak all the sounds and have a ton of knobs all over it would be as much as a Fantom or a Montage.
@@spiralminus That bad vision you mention is as simple as anyone using reading glasses. And I get the bit about it using sounds designed at home and used in a gig, but if you have to put on reading glasses so know which preset you are on that is a fail in my book. As for cost, that fancy little screen, which is obviously not an off the self part, probably cost a lot more that a simple LCD used for a phone.. It's a fashion choice that places form over function.
they could've made a bigger screen bro
This looks and sounds interesting… I wish Slate and Ash and my Lekko plugins had a hardware package
It’s gorgeous. It sounds amazing. It’s not meant to be a new sound though, it’s a new form factor. The screen is kinda different, nice. If it were $500 I’d really want it. This is meant for keyboard players not for synth freaks!
Keyboard players want decent polyphony though, and preferably eq. controls etc..
As there is no master tuning setting in Analog Lab V.
Can you change and save the master tuning on this keyboard?
Nest thermostat integrated with keylab mk3
I as hoping for a Mini Pigments like the Mini Freak with 37 🎹s
but is not 100 % physical modelling, it's using samples too. Since Augmented strings, augmented piano, the Fairlight CMI, and some pigment prestes use samples like all the granular stuff from pigments.
Piano V is fully physical modelling. He is talking about the Piano V only.
Does this contain Pigments or not? Slippery answers all around.
Yes it does
1600 bucks for this is idiotic. That’s workstation zone.
Exactly 💯😂
It is basically a workstation without an arranger. I'm guessing pricing was based on the cost of buying the plugins separately.
Which to be fair, if you were planning on buying all of their plugins than this is a steal... Then again the number of people in that boat is probably quite small.
@@AndoShy It has absolutely nothing to do with a workstation. It’s more like a keyboard with a lot of sounds. Workstations are feature packed with useful things for a lot of areas of musical execution, which this is not.
It’s a nice concept … having your library in a box without computer… but indeed, this is not a workstation. (For example,It has only 2 parts and polyphony is too low ) Should be nice to have more live control … more buttons for sound editing, also a professional internal power, bigger keyboard (73 version … at least 😊) I hope there’s also a lock system for buttons. I’m wondering about the sound, what kind of output in a live gig. I should say, it’s a good start for something better 😊
For less than half the cost you can get a Korg Wavestate mk 2 with up to 4 layers, more polyphony, deeper sound design options and sounds as good or better than this.
They should make a Zero version of this, just a standalone box with no keys so we can attach it to any high quality MIDI keyboard like numa x
Arturia just provided the industry's missing link for people like me.
I think they push to much gear out too fast and wish they would spend more money on construction. I would be scared taking it on a stage because how dodgy their faders can be.
Where's Jack?
Whaaa🎉
OK nice device, but not for me. I hate it when i can't edit sounds the way I like. If this allowed you to actually design your own sounds using all these engines from the device itself, with perhaps some more dedicated knobs, buttons and sliders, this would be something I'd consider. Also no poly aftertouch is kindof a step back for me. Oh well next time then eh?
Realistically, some of the soft synths (e.g. Pigments) have so many controls you’d need a touch screen. Knobs and faders would never be enough. You can easily edit sounds when you plug it into your computer and run Analog Lab and save your edits to the keyboard. In the end, you spend 95% of the time playing music instead of designing your sound.
@@hvhvgitaar Right, but you could still make a generic layout for most common functions which most synths share. Most of them have oscs, envelopes, filters, LFO's etc, so that would be really helpful if you could change those on the fly. Something like a System 8 layout would work wonders, I think. The downside of course would be that it'd be a more expensive synth.
@@payt01 As the dude in the video said, this is more of a stage piano layout. They put the basic most common controls on there. All the deep editing is done via software. The function of this is the ability to design sounds in the studio, transfer them to your hardware, and go use them live.
Gonna have to say no on this one. I do like the direction this instrument goes, but for me, it doesn't go far enough for the price. I like the ability to 1 for 1 transfer custom sounds to a hardware keyboard. I like the sleek design of it. But, there's so many features it's missing that other keyboards have at this price range. It seems to me that Arturia is banking on their name sake and popularity of their software to carry this product, including their Pigments software, now in a box. I understand this is a "stage piano" type of instrument, but the other selling points being pushed make me think there should be more to it than what's on offer. This seems like it should be a $800 to $1000 product.
The price seems to be absolutely fair since it’s not a controller but stand alone
@@cemdasou then it should be $1200 max 😮 you still need rhe laptop for doing custom sounds....
"...a path ..." ;)
GastroPub - Astrolab 😄
I honestly didnt like this when it first came out. However, on reflection I have V collection and pigments. I have a full studio of Synths and Grooveboxs. This is essential. And probably get an Akai MPC 37 keys and Take 5/Teo 5/ ASM Explorer.... Hmmmmm. GAS.
Google nest on a keyboard
Nice keyboard, but I have to say, I don't know who it's for. Maybe it's a modern version of a family home keyboard.
Gigging or aspiring musicians have keyboards that cover the two main roles of chords/accompaniment and solo/melody, from manufacturers such as Nord, Sequential, Yamaha, Roland, ... .
In the studio there is a large main control keyboard and several other keyboards. Everything is connected to a PC on which there are several SW synthesizers/keyboards, e.g. Arturia V-Collection or other collections of vintage sounds, Pigments, Spectrasonic Omnisphere ... . No keyboard is required that hosts SW synthesizers directly, stand alone.
Need to make the screen smaller cause theres not enough space on top. I mean knobs??? Really? That’s so yesterday doesn’t Arturia know that our soon installed brain chips will let us telepathically move knobs? Jeeeeeez
They should put at least 9 faders on left empty space for 1600 bucks of 61 keys.
it must be true hell browsing thousands of presets without writing name.
Love Oz but need Jack 😥
Not Archuria man but Arturia 😑
This is great but needs more keys, bigger screen and more sliders/knobs. Pigments and a lot of the V Collection are fantastic. I have it and use it regularly.
It looks beautiful and undoubtedly sounds good but why would I buy this over a Modx 7 Plus?
Also, this guy barely played. Felt this didn't really demo the product that well. Not sure if this guy is a playernor not but even the playing at the end was uninspiring.
Its the new wuldorf noofeld
Is it racist or nationalist to say that the English cadence does this thing where, they sorta fall off, then it gets slower, and then it gets SO quiet at the end of phrase, to the point that, that my American ears can not follow the conversation? "THIS SYNTH DOES Some things tttthhhhaaatt...(whispered muddle)?" PS:: Sorry UK...love you.
100%😂
make no sense to me a tiny screen for a remote controller I got all these sound already what is this for 13oo dollars the sounds are samples stop
as much as I like what yo are doing I must admit that your com sounds a little like those Honest Joe services. Why would you call your digital products Analog? it s as if the word analog itself would suffice to justify the price, this is clearly a com issue strategy that sounds a bit cheesy
What do you think analog means?
If you don't know I will tell you , it the artificial recreation of sound waves. So yes digital is anolog.
No mpe No bye..sorry🤦🤷
Talk talk talk… give us some playing man,
🇮🇳❤👌❤👌❤👌❤
Nope
that little screen is TOO BIG
Please place play; something….
Oh, it's the kid that says "sick" a million times per video. I'm out.
pass
It's a pass from me
Rather underwhelming demo...
Rare Arturia L
no thanks