1904 Oldsmobile model 6C AKA curved dash
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- Today on what it’s like the year is 1904 this Oldsmobile curved dash was one of two models offered by Oldsmobile (the other was the model N) available in a few body’s including delivery wagon. Some background history on Oldsmobile
This is one of my favorite episodes to date tell me what you think in comments =)
Lots of period ads and we get to go for a ride in this one be sure to stick around for name that tune and would you rather at the end also random Quadra cycle stuff at the end
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Really neat! Grew up with Oldsmobiles in the 1960s thinking no greater car existed. Shame GM could not maintain the cutting edge sense of the car.
It was a really sad day when GM decided to pull the plug on Oldsmobile as well as Pontiac for that matter I think Pontiac had some really cool cars at the end of their run aside from the aztec..
@@What.its.like. Moving American Women into positions of authority is a disaster.
Ransom E. Olds was booted from president and left his own company in 1904; they kept the rights to "Olds Motor Works", so Ransom called his new company R.E.O. Motor Car Company. I remember a fella in the HCCA here in Portland with a 1911 R.E.O. Touring Car, and I remember always thinking about how much nicer it was than the average Model T 😂 I love this period of cars, and I hope to see more videos like this!! -- Ooh!! Maybe ask the Henry Ford Museum if they will let you review their replica Quadracycle, and see if they will take you for a ride in it!
My buddy and I built a fairly faithful replica of a 1901 curved dash Oldsmobile. We bought a layout blue print of the original at the Olds museum in Lansing Michigan and built it ground up. The open front can make 20 miles per hour seem too fast. Interesting statistic: there are no original 1901 cdo s in existence. The reason being the front suspension was attached to the wooden body which eventually failed. The 1904 had a steel full frame and survived. We put a full frame under ours
That’s awesome what frame did you use?
@@What.its.like. We fabricated a full frame like the one on a 1904 Olds. It puts the front end load on the steel frame not the wooden body.
Thanks Jay for taking us on a ride in a 1904 Oldsmobile.
You bet =) I wish you could have felt what I felt it was a really cool ride
Nice I went to Greenfield Village in 2022 for my Hudson Essex Terraplane Club National. Infact there's a Hudson connection to the Curved Dash's story.
When new, a young 21 year old man named Roy D. Chapin, who was hired for his photography skills to prepare Olds sales catalog's as well as a test driver in 1901 was tasked to drive the Curved Dash from Detroit to New York for the Automobile Club of America's second annual auto show. The trek was 820 miles and took 7 days to complete. He was initially barred due to his dishelved appearance, but he and the Olds got in.
Roy along with other Oldsmobile employers would later form Hudson in 1909 with backing from department store mogul J.L . Hudson.
Thank you so much for sharing all that history market on your calendar I would love as many people to go up there next year as possible because it’s an experience it’s always the weekend after Labor Day.. and I guess the Auburn court and Duesenberg event is Labor Day weekend I definitely want to do that next year
My Dad was a heavy truck mechanic at the Kroger garage in Livonia Michigan from '53 to '83. He had a reputation of repairing anything. Back then Kroger owned & maintained their own trucks & trailers. In '61 he was assigned to restore a 1901 Curved dash Olds for the marketing department. It was found in a private collection in Ohio & needed to be brought back to original condition. When completed, a fellow mechanic shot a video with my dad's Kodak 8mm camera road test driving the Olds around the outside of the garage. It was then put on display at the main office in Cincinnati. Great memories.
Thank you so much for sharing the stories and memories I’m glad that this episode was able to bring back those memories to you thank you so much for sharing them with us =)
I have family photos from 1903 showing my great great grandfather driving one of these down Central Ave in Phoenix, AZ when Central Ave was still a dirt road. Thank you for the video. It was awesome riding along with you. ~ Rodney...
Awesome thank you so much for sharing your memories of your great grandfather having this car.
If you can ever get out to the Greenfield Village I highly recommend it it is like going back in time it’s a really cool experience that I don’t think exist anywhere else it might but I don’t know of any other experience but this one.
Glad you dig the video =)
Fascinating piece of historical auto innovation! It looked like it was covering some serious ground, and was an exhilarating ride! They all look like they be cool 😎
I wish you guys could’ve felt what the ride was like it was so free I guess the best way I can explain it is if you’ve ever been on the zero turn it’s kind of similar to that but you were up higher and going faster
I highly recommend the R.E Ollds museum in Lansing as well. Thanks for the ride
FWIW, that raised, rounded "peak" detail on the fenders is both a decorative and functional holdover from the horse-drawn era. Fenders were originally made of (usuallly) patent leather, stitched to a frame formed from iron rod. The shape was retained in the metal as the round channel, like the corrogations in the Ford Trimotor or the Citroen 2CV, or the character lines in the Beetle, imparted strength and ridgidty to what would otherwise be a useless bit of sheet-metal flapping in the wind. The detail eventually migrated to the fender's edge in the twenties, when the compound-curves of the fender shape itself gave it the needed stiffness.
Great information thank you so much for sharing all that =)
My hometown has one of these (in very rough shape) on display because it was literally THE first automobile in the town ever, brought by boat up into Canada from Detroit. This answered the question; "what it may have been like to ride in?" Thank you.
Your welcome can’t wait to go back there this year
Glad you dig this episode
Thank you What it's like, it's like riding with you.
You bet I love shooting this in first person who was almost like you’re doing it =)
Love Them oldies 👀😍🤠🇨🇦
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For WYR, I'll pick the 1904 Oldsmobile both scenarios.
This one was interesting! Driving around like that must have been a completely new experience. This car was about as basic as you can get, right down to the kerosene lamps.
My paternal grandmother was born in 1904. It's interesting to get an idea of what was out there when she was born.
Great choices in both scenarios I wish you guys could’ve felt what I felt it was a super smooth driving experience the engine was almost operated almost like a hit and miss engine that might not be the best analogy but it sounded like one..
The best analogy I can give as far as the ride goes think about a zero turn lawnmower but you’re sitting up higher and 20 miles an hour feels really fast. It would get up to the speed really quickly
1904 Western 😉 the Black is a interesting looking car ??? Almost a motorized Carriage 👍🙂..
In my room by the Beach Boy's ??? It's close but I'm not very sure 🤷🤞..
Another great episode
Mercedes reproduction????? -vs- Ford in the last part ???🤔... 👏👏🤠✌️
I’m not sure if that was a Ford Quadra cycle if that was something else Great guess it is not in my room it might be a beach boy song but it’s not that song.. great choices =)
I have a 1902 Curved Dash Olds Just begining the restoration. enjoyed the Video and sent it to my team lets hope it inspires them to action.
Awesome =) they are really cool to ride in
Wow, Jay, that looks like a great car event. You can’t get much older than this 1904 Oldsmobile! So simple and free riding.
That event is awesome I’m going to talk it up next year if anybody wants to go I’m going to see if there’s any way to make that happen it’s definitely a bucket list thing that should definitely be done especially if you’re in the area if your 5 Hour Dr. it’s definitely worth it it’s about a 4 1/2 hour drive for me.. some people even trailed their cars from Vegas which was really cool.
I don’t know if you had a zero turn this thing felt like a lifted zero turn that went faster that’s probably the best analogy I could give just felt free
Nearly 120 years old.
One of many favorite cars.
Hi Jay!: I LOVED this episode! Always had a thing for the "curved dash" Olds. I think this is the first significant American automobile. You can make points for Duryea, but these were mass produced. They were somewhat affordable in the day. Not until the Model T Ford would it be equaled in importance. in American automobile history. I'm sure you had fun riding around in this one, too!
The ride was awesome =) so free glad you dig this episode 1917 Cole today hopefully that’s a interesting one with a car with the last body in existence
Fascinating vid Jay! Must have been a real treat to ride in it. Learned something, I thought Henry Leland engineered standard parts replacement while at Cadillac. Like Olds, Leland left GM and started Lincoln. You're doing a terrific job.
Thank you so much for that ad vintage car history let me know that Cadillac was the first to standardize parts but they did not offer it on an assembly line =)
So much lost history in those early years
The Olds fire was hapened when the curved dash was among a group of prototypes and it ended up being pushed out of the burning factory as a sole survivor of the prototypes so it was what got Olds back in business when they were able to return to production. It allowed them to develop more models by 1904. It was the luck of fate that allowed the curved dash to be produced.
I would choose the Olds in both scenarios. If parts are hard to get for the Olds, they are impossible for the others. Five inches makes sense for the bore--five inches was the largest bore that could be readily manufactured at the time, and for quite a while after. (The Liberty aircraft engine of WWI, designed to be made by many firms, had a five-inch bore.) The bore and stroke make sense for 1.9 liters displacement (1932 cc), but not for 95 CID (1558 cc)--they give 117.8 CID. Thanks for the ride.
Awesome choices
Glad you dig this video thank you so much for the insight
I’ve seen the same model Oldsmobile in magazines and always thought it was bigger than what it really is, which suprised me!
Yeah it’s not very big
WYR: Both times the Oldsmobile. Thank you for sharing this. Think of the changes by 1914, then 1924, then 1934. In short, the leaps in progress each decade. What an experience that must have been from horses a buggies to Duesenbergs. Thank you again ~ Chuck
Awesome choices I was really happy with the advertisements in this one it’s amazing the innovation that took place in the very beginning and it really makes you appreciate Duesenberg because that would’ve been a spaceship model T struggled go 40 miles an hour, while Duesenberg topped out at 120
What a nice ride that was
I have have a scale model of a 1901 Oldsmobile which I have had for 35 years. Also have model of an 1886 Benz 3 wheeler shown at the end of this video. By the way the car Jethro Boudean drove on Beverley Hill Billies was a 1923 Oldsmobile.
My suggestion would be to ask them what they have to do maintenance wise. If you watch some of Jay Leno's TH-cam, he had one where it said do this every hundred miles!! It was hilarious!!
Also ask him if they could take regularly long trips like 60 miles back then.
Thanks for the interesting vid and about that village!!
I can’t wait to go back to the Greenfield Village. I’m going to try to go there twice this year. They have a show called motor Munster. I’ll have to figure out when that is but it’s like 40s 50s and 60s cars maybe some 70s cars in that village, it will be epic.
Very cool Jay I’m sure remember this day and that ride forever I personally liked the Gail in the first choice and the black from the second choice but wow that Gail looks cool and commanding
I think the Gail was cheaper all the options in the second scenario were cheaper Quadra cycles
Very surprised at the pep this vehicle has!
Yeah the ride was like no other car and best greenhouse forgot to add that =D
Wow! What an innovative company and what an interesting car. I'll bet it was a blast to go for a ride. Great video!
Yeah this is one of my favorite episodes from a history perspective glad you dig this video =)
@@What.its.like. Keep up the great work.
Outstanding video. I learned some things, Thank you
I was really happy with the advertising pieces I was able to find on this one =)
Cars like Northern roundabout and Knox Model C and R have the same cantilever suspensions system of Oldsmobile, King the boss of the Northern works in Oldsmobile
Attatboy ! That sound of engine reminds me of it and miss engine , please do a video on them in future , we had a 2 1/2 and 5 hp in the 60’s . Hit & miss engine are so kool ! Thank’s Jay
Yeah I will definitely have to do a hit and miss engine one day glad you dig this episode =)
Way to go Jay! Not too many folks can claim they rode in a curved dash Olds.
Yeah it was incredible I wish you could have felt what that experience was like 20 miles per hour feels fast
1 & 2: One of each so I can enjoy them.
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=) great choices haha I guess it does have vibe
#oldsmobile all the way!
Thanks for posting these for us
Thanks for watching this =)
Great episode! Bet they wished the roads were as good in 1904 as they are now, seem to be making good speed driving down the road in the Olds.
I wish you could’ve experienced what I experienced with the ride I guess the best analogy I could give you is it’s almost like a zero turn lawnmower but it’s up higher and goes faster
@@What.its.like. I really got that impression from both the video and your description! Can you imagine what the first people to experience that felt like? How cool!! Please keep the great content coming! 😊❤️
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Another great car and episode. Appreciate the ride along! First choice the'04 Western Gale the second the '04 6C Curved dash Olds. Reading in my Oldsmobile history book before watching , did a quick glance of info about the 1929-30 Viking. Thanks again for showing the Curved dash.
I want to hit a Viking in the future that is a super interesting car with V8 =)
Glad you dig this episode I think the next one’s going to be the 1917 Cole I’m not entirely sure if it’s going to be tomorrow or Sunday I’m going to an AMC show on Sunday to shoot some stuff to break up the early stuff.. i’m hopeful that they’ll have some bathtub nashes I really want to cover some
@@What.its.like.I dig that on the AMC show, love to see the '49-50 bathtub Nashes, everybody don't like the style, the taillights in the trunklid, and the speedometer pod but i like them especially the ambassador with the longer front. Hope you find a 1961 Ambassador there with that weird front and rear styling, and a '57 Rebel and maybe a rare 6 cylinder Javelin.
Me too I would love to find a 61 ambassador see you there at 61 or 60 it’s the one with the weird front end was one year only
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Your passion, presentation and attention to detail are unmatched.
I love watching your videos and thoroughly enjoy your filming technique and style. I wish youd allow some of the pictures to stay on the screen just a bit longer.
Keep up the good work.
These cars are the absolute best if you ask me. To say they are the epitome of workmanship and art is an understatement.
Cheers!
Thank you so much for the positive vibes it means the world you dig this channel I love the classics, I just wish they where on the road more than special events or tours
@@What.its.like. I agree. I wish they were too. I have seen a few being driven out here from time to time.
I have a question for you as well. About that curved dash Olds you were looking at, do you know what type of steel or wood was used for the axles and suspension parts? And how thick it was?
I've been so curious about the materials and innovations of such vehicles and figured since you're around them all the time up close that maybe you know how they were designed and made it if there is any books or websites with these details.
I conducted some basic searches, but so far couldn't find any real information other than a gloss over.
I don't know the answer to that question but I'm going back to the Greenfield Village this year and I'm sure that guy will be there. I have his name and number I just can't think of what it is off the top of my head I will ask him personally and make a video response...
@@What.its.like. That sounds like fun. Yes, you could possibly ask him about those types of details and reference sources for such details. Nobody has done any videos like that so you'd be the first and only one. Sort of an in depth look at all of the engineering that goes into the components and the making of them and how they work and are put together and why and compare the other designs and maybe even contrast those designs with modern designs. The pros and cons of each design as well. It was such an experimental age. And it gives us new insight into the minds of these inventors.
This is very fascinating stuff and will open up new doors and keep you very busy.
You're the only one I've seen so far that actually has an eye for such details and gets so close to the components and takes a good look at them and points out so much about them including the names of the components. Basically this is about real educational value.
I truly believe you're the man for the job too and will give you a rewarding experience and for us who aren't able to be there.
Also your ride alongs. Do more of those too. You make it feel like we are there.
I hope you do these things.
The level of craftsmanship men had back then is unmatched.
You truly are the best on TH-cam. I really mean that. You keep it interesting too. You have the right voice as well. You sound like a young man from that era. It was the era of optimism and you capture that very well.
This is a gift that you have. It isn't something you can fake. You're a very genuine guy.
I'm very glad I've discovered your videos.
I used to restore classic cars for years, had my own business. Mostly from the 1960s and 1970s. These days I'm much more interested in the 1800s up to the 1940s.
This has opened a whole new interesting world for me and I'm truly fascinated by it. I love very simple things that work and prefer analog over digital for most applications.
To find a young man of your generation as passionate as you are about older things sets you apart automatically and makes you a very rare man. Your videos are not an insignificant thing, but actually a really big deal and highly appreciated. Your deliver and presentation is what makes all the difference in the world. I don't think anyone else can do what you do and do it as well as you do.
I can't wait to see more. I can't wait to see the new videos you make from this year's event.
Cheers!
Thank you so much
Yeah, definitely going to do more ride along maybe some drives in the future..
I've heard you can have two cars are identical and every single way, but they will drive completely different because everything wears out different overtime
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WOW looks like it was fun.
That place was an experience if you can ever get out that way I would definitely say go I think it cost $45 for the weekend but you get a wristband and that gives you access to all of it for the weekend now there are extra charges like if you want to ride the train at seven dollars but that’s not bad at all I didn’t get to ride the train there was a lot of stuff I didn’t get to do you can go in all the buildings I didn’t get to do that I wanted to see all the cars it’s a lot to take in especially if it’s your first time ever going there..
If you ever come across one, please do a video on the 1903 Winton Touring Car. In 1903 Horatio Nelson Jackson and his mechanic Sewall Crocker made the first automobile trip across the United States in a 1903 Winton. There is an excellent documentary made by Ken Burns called " Horatio's Drive" about this trip. They started in San Francisco and drove to New York. I guarantee you'll love this documentary!!
The goal is to cover every single car brand I want to cover every single car between the year is 1930 to 64 in multiple body styles but I would love to do at least one car from every manufacture outside of those dates some of them early companies are extinct and don’t have any cars from their company left.. next year I might be able to make some really cool connections not saying that I didn’t get some really cool connections this year but every year it seems like it gets better and better =)
@@What.its.like. -- By the way, Horatio's original 1903 Winton that he drove across the US is in the Smithsonian Institute.
04 Olds
06 Black
Jay, that's an awesome once in a lifetime experience. When you consider when this vehicle was produced, I think the production numbers are quite high.
So many firsts for Oldsmobile and yet GM decided to kill the line. No respect from GM for Olds history.
Great choices
I love the drive in this that’s why I included a lot of it because you can see the show for what it is that place is absolutely huge and I can’t recommend it enough it was like going to heaven for a day and I got all watery eyed while I was walking around there because I honestly believe I was born too late and it was like going back in time for a weekend.. it really was and it’s not your typical car show people want to share their cars and their stories and take everybody for rides not just me. =)
It’s always the week after Labor Day so mark your calendar I’m definitely going back I want my family to go this time
Hi Justin, good video! Good car show! Your earlier cars from 1900 to about 1925 normally do not get noticed because there is not as many and they are more difficult to restore, except for the Ford model T. During WW II US Government agents would patrol peoples residence and if you had an old car that did not run, the US Government would confiscate the vehicle for scrap metal for the war effort. There where no junk yards during WW II, they where scooped up for scrap metal and tires for rubber. Please reply. Dave...
Great insight and information thank you so much for sharing all of that =)
Great Video 👀🤠🇨🇦
Glad you dig this one =)
Nice is this the earliest car you've featured so far?
Yes so far 1904 is the earliest no I can’t see that I did a Benz Patton wagon that was the earliest 1898
That could be one of 9 zillion late 50’s or early 60’s songs. Come on man!
It’s a 60s song I had to make it harder everybody was getting them too fast
The rearview mirror is definitely not an original item because the car predates rearview mirrors by a fair number of years.
Mas de estos bichos por favor !!!! 👏👐👏👐👏👐
We have an 1804 St. Louis in the pipeline not sure when we’re gonna get to that one though it might be next week it might be the week after
Never knew Olds was the first assembly line. Why does Ford get all the credit? Also never knew about the fire in Baltimore! How did this ride. From the sound of the chugging I'm guessing a bit rough. Sharp little scoot-a-bout! 1) Never heard of it before but love the looks, so Western Gale 2) Olds!
This road super smooth and the feeling that you had while you were gliding through the air second to none..
Great choices
exellent episode jay .I cant wait to go to dearborn and visit that place (this vid came up after i watched kleps garage curved dash olds vid ) his olds had wire wheels???
?what was the song/artist ??
I can’t believe nobody got that one. It’s a beach boys song.
I would like olds in both cases
Sweet =)
Electric cars did catch on in the early days since cell phones did not exist…. People were not used to constantly charging.
Very true all the problems there are with electric cars now they had back then as well plus the vehicles didn’t go as far or as fast.
1:40 that dood blew a head gasket brah 🤔
Do steam cars have head gaskets?
@@stephenholland5930 steam, it’s what’s for dinner brah
Great horseless carriage.
Neat story. Too bad the Oldsmobile is no more. What a shame.
It’s an absolute shame that GM just totally abandon Oldsmobile like they did
@What.its.like. Sales just got too low and the brand couldn't recover. It IS a shame.
I've heard that the originally they used Whale oil as the lubricant.
Maybe i make also a Olds 6C Curved Dash scale model in brass and wood in 1:20 scale, in 2024 i build a similar 1902 Northern roundabout and 1902 Rambler model C
And again the 1904 olds
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A 1904 Oldsmobile
Sweet choices =)
Mr. Sandman by The Chordettes
Great guess but it’s not that song or band
Sandman Inn
Beach Boys --Pet sounds ?
It might be a beach boy song but it’s not from the pet sounds album.. or that song =)
04 Olds
04 Olds, again...
Sweet choices
I don’t see Cup Holders?
Haha
This has to be the oldest vehicle you ever showed on your channel. My great grandfather hadn't even been born yet when this car was made.
We did the earliest car mare Benz Patton wagon here is a playlist of all the really old cars =)
1904 St. Louis is in the pipe line
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Hey j what is the oldest car you own
52 Chevy 1 ton truck and I drive it I gotta go to the hardware store tonight maybe we’ll go for a ride maybe I’ll make it a TH-cam thing I don’t know it’s too hard to video and drive it’s a stick shift I don’t have to double clutch though which is always a good thing. =)
Thats not a car. Its a fency golf cart without without the club store closet 🙄 local had a sears barely worked the olds really worked
Some called these experiments back in the day
Love the history of these cars but they just don't do anything for me .
The ride was really awesome.
I love covering the history of these cars I would never own this particular vehicle for a number of reasons maintenance being a big one. But I really appreciate the people that keep them going because they are interesting and people deserve to see them running, Canton Auto Museum took the St. Louis up there which is awesome it’s another reason I love that museum and the people that run it because they share their cars with as many people as they possibly can and that’s what the car hobby is about or at least that’s what it should be about..
We are going to do a live stream next week hopefully Thursday at the Canton Auto museum with Gary and possibly Howard and just sit around and talk cars and you guys in the live stream could ask questions and we can give you feedback which would be really awesome
Olds all the way !
Sweet =)