Yeah buddy congratulations you got it and you’re the first one right out of the gate =) Tomorrow’s Engine episode Wednesday is going to be the Pontiac straight eight
@@What.its.like. If you have never seen the silent movie --- Mabel at the wheel??? It's the first film showing a Motorcycle 🤔... Vintage Auto Race 👏👏👏👏👏✌️
The Entertainer had a massive second run as a hit on the charts in 1973 when composer Marvin Hamlisch placed along side his own music and strung it throughout the masterfully comically suspenseful movie about gamblers starting Newman and Redford, The Sting. Easily one of the most memorable and enjoyable films ever made.
I would love the Pierce Arrow and on seeing this Packard I would love it. The rear passenger area looks so luxurious, perfect for the clothing of the day Thanks Jay, that car show looks excellent
Glad you dig this episode I can’t wait to cover some more cars actually can’t wait to go back to that show it’s left a lasting impression on me and Gary was right it did ruined me but we’re going to Hershey I’m going to spend three days they’re going to cover as much stuff as I possibly can. Hershey is different though they don’t drive the cars around like they do at this show. And that’s what makes it also if you ever go Saturday is the day to go they have what they call a parade at the end of the day all of the people can drive their cars at night with their lights on and that is awesome plus you’re in a town that has different types of streetlights some are electric some are gas Plus you have music in the background lots of like ragtime style piano music people dress the part it was an incredible atmosphere
Engineered before CAD and made with out 5 axis CNC machine centers Real craftsmanship. I had the pleasure to work on a Packard of this vintage What an honor WYR. I take the Packard every time
All of the Above 🥰❤️❤️❤️👍 I could never choose a Winner from those Incredible Machines 👏👏👏👏 A Fantastic Episode ☺️ Your living life right 😉👌.. Enjoy your Adventures, Happy Motoring 👋👋🤠✌️
It's so great that you were able to feature a coachbuilt Packard with some very unique features. And it runs so smoothly! It was also great that the owner took you for a ride in it. What a treat.
This show is absolutely incredible Bill take anybody for a ride all you have to do is ask everybody is so nice and it’s almost like you go back in time for a weekend I was getting emotional walking around that was for sure because I was experiencing a time period that I should’ve been a part of you could go in all of the buildings or most of the buildings and when you push the door you actually have to push it because it’s not like pushing a piece of paper like it is now everything had a quality feel to it with the buildings and that’s something we’re lacking in this modern world..
17 Packard limo 17 Packard Jay, you know I love Packard's and this beautiful packard is one of the reasons why. What a nice automobile. The over the hood sections are even more impressive when viewed while you're actually riding in the car. Unbelievable that they actually had heating in the back of the car that was something that was unheard of in that time period. Talk about Packard being ahead of the curve.
Yeah this car was incredible I saw it drive by earlier that day and I was like wait what is that.. there is so much going on at that show it’s almost overwhelming especially for the very first time ever being there at the show very first time ever being at the Greenfield Village Great choices I still can’t get over how smooth and quiet that engine is even when he reved it up it didn’t get loud
Yeah can’t be in your cell phone and drive this so much going on I should’ve explained the pump a little bit better that air pump was the pressurize the gas tank it didn’t have a fuel pump on it.. So periodically he would have to pump that
1 and 2, both Packard. I had to chuckle a bit when I first saw this car. The first thing that popped in my odd little head was "Welcome, to Downton Abbey"... LOL... What an amazingly beautiful AND complicated machine! Spark adjustment, air mixture, gear changes... talk about seriously driving a car! Could you imagine the PR nightmare of buying a vehicle nowdays, and a driver? Oy... 7 litres, 12 cylinders. and less horsepower than my '72 Pinto had. Technology and innovation has certainly come a very long way in a century. ONLY rear brakes? Jeeesh! Excellent job, Jay on reviewing this! And loved the little snippet about horseshoes. Little trivia things like that are great! It's true, you can learn something new everyday if you try!
Haha that would’ve been an epic Way to start I wish I would’ve thought of that. That car has that vibe.. That car was on the judge and green as well there was a lot of cars on the judge and green we got to do a Rickenbacker/ and Cole that was also on the judging green.. we got to go for a ride in the Cole the Rickenbacker/ that was the very first car that I saw. Super interesting can’t wait to tell the story I’m going to an AMC show on Saturday to film some stuff to separate the early stuff the channel doesn’t my audience isn’t into the early stuff but I want to cover the early stuff because there’s a lot more history to cover and I love talking about histories of companies that don’t exist anymore it’s like one of my favorite things. But also know that I got a cover what my base likes to watch because I don’t want it to become dry and we’ve covered a lot of 20s and 30s cars long stretch of that. So need to get some material to cut it up so to speak =)
@@What.its.like. Hey, throw whatever y like at us! And AMC's (and the companies that formed them before they merged) were awesome. A little out of the mainstream and usually ahead of their time. I mean, look at the Eagle. And what is everyone driving now? Wasn't it Nash that did the first unibody? (or was it Hudson?) Funny to think about, if any of those nameplates survived, they'd be under the Stellantis brand, which is from the Netherlands... We could be driving a 2023 Nash Cross Country which would be just a re-badged Vauxhall Grandland...
Hi Jay. Thanks for a look at a rare car. On the offset cylinder banks, it's particularly obvious on this one, but not unusual. You'd see a bit on a Ford flathead V8 for instance. On starting it with a crank, it's only a couple of years into the existence of the self starter, so the chauffeur would be expected to be able to crank start it. Seven litres would take some heft, but the compression wouldn't be much - like 4.5:1 or thereabouts. That probably also is a factor in the smoothness of the motor. Cars like this gave rise to the business of putting a coin on it's side atop a running motor. It looks like a largely original car - amazing!
That car was absolutely incredible it belong to General tire at one point they used to that as a promotional piece.. I couldn’t figure out where to work that into the video but there still if you type in Google packard imperial limo you’ll see all the advertisements that General tire used, it’s the same car I still can’t get over how smooth it was we were going to do the coin track but it was not parked on level ground. And whisper quite
Hi Jay!: Now I KNOW you had a great time in Michigan! A ride in a Twin Six Packard!! What a COOL experience! And we all got to ride along!! SO EXCITING! You know, you just almost have to feel sorry for the wealthy original owner of such a fine machine! The Chauffeur got to have ALL the fun!! WYR#1 PACKARD! #2 This is a LOT harder! The Locomobile was also one FINE machine, and the Crane-Simplex. I mean Come on! Still have to go with the Twin-Six Packard!!
I wish you could’ve felt what I felt it was absolutely incredible and when the owner asked me when I was done with shooting it we could go for a ride I couldn’t believe what I heard. It was awesome experience I think we covered 15 cars when we were there and we got to ride in almost all of them there’s only a handful of ones that we didn’t ride in and that’s probably only because I didn’t ask to go for a ride. This show is the best show I’ve ever been to because it is what the Classic Car hobby should be. And in my opinion it’s the only way this stuff is going to get saved because a lot of this stuff doesn’t go to your average every day show you always see it at events like this or Concord event that you spend tons of money to go to.. this show I think it’s like $45 for entrance fee but you get a bracelet that get you in the park for both days both Saturday and Sunday Saturday is definitely the day to go not everybody goes back on Sunday Saturday they have this thing called a parade where they at night drive the cars through the streets with the acetylene lamps with the whole town is like that it’s an absolutely incredible experience and if you ever get the chance to go go don’t hesitate. Just go lol i’m going to promote the mess out of it next year when it gets closer to that time because I would love to see you guys go and experience it it is something definitely worth the drive to go to because there isn’t another experience like it, that I’m aware of. 3 1/2 gallons of oil though it’s starting to make me rethink if I want a twinsix Packard the maintenance costs alone just to have this car are astronomical.. so I think I’m going to revise my previous statement if I make it in this life I’m going to get a super eight.. but then again the twin six that comes in the second generation I don’t think are nearly as expensive to own their expensive don’t get me wrong they’re just not to the level that these were because they had a lot more refinement.. and I don’t think the crankcase is as big but I could be wrong Great choices =)
I'm loving the string of pre-war car episodes. I like 50s and 60s cars but seeing original pre-war cars is less common so it's more interesting to see what they're like
Yeah I premiere all the episodes so it gives everybody a free chance at name that tune at the end but it’s generally a minute and a half from when it airs just so everybody can get in the tent so to speak =)
Of all the cars you named I would choose Packard every time! Although the Pierce Arrow gave me pause. Jay Leno has a similar vintage Pierce Arrow video and several on older than this Packards
I’m a huge fan of Leno I think anybody that’s a car guy has watched his episodes he’s inspired me to do this as well as a couple other TH-cam channels.. leno is a guy that would love to just talk cars with =)
Next year I want to try to get a whole group of people to go it’s absolutely incredible I definitely want to take my family I sort of wanna get a pre-war car but I don’t think I’ll be able to afford to take it there besides I could have any car from the 30s it would probably be a 36 or 37 airflow I really want one of those and I want to share it with as many people as I possibly can Next year I want to try to get a whole group of people to go it’s absolutely incredible I definitely want to take my family I sort of wanna get a prewar car but I don’t think I’ll be able to afford to take it there besides I could have any car from the 30s it would probably be a 36 or 37 airflow I really want one of those and I want to share it with as many people as I possibly can That show has inspired me I would love to host a 30-60 era show and encourage people to drive the cars around just like that but I don’t want to charge an entry fee for people to get in or to host the event like a lot of times it becomes a giant money grab and I get it people need paid for things but a lot of times that’s how the car hobby especially the Classic Car hobby is viewed and all it does is hurt the people at the bottom that are trying to experience this stuff for the very first time.
Another fantastic episode! The drives are awesome and I happy you got to do them! What an amazing car and show - thanks for taking us along. WYR: Well, you already know my answers - Packard and Packard (BIATP). ~ Chuck
Off the top of my head here’s a list of all the cars that we covered during that show got the ride in most of them 1917 Cole 1928 Rickenbacker I think it was a 28 I’ll have to double check that 1929 willys knight 1928 falcon knight 1928 whippet 1923 chandler 1931 Chrysler cf 1904 St. Louis 1904 olds curved dash 1917 franklin 192? Franklin 1930 Hupmoblie that one I didn’t get to finish I didn’t get to do the dash I didn’t get to get inside of it or anything so I’m not sure just ran out of time.. 1926 Nash advanced 6 I think that’s it I might’ve missed one or two not sure but the sleeve valve episodes are going to be interesting because the guy explains how the sleeve system works which is awesome Next year I want to try to get a group of people and go up there to that event it’s absolutely incredible I think it cost $40 to get in but I believe the wristbands good for the whole weekend.. Saturday is definitely the day to go Sunday there isn’t as many people there like they pack up and go evidently there’s a tour or some thing that they do on Wednesday Gary from the eye went with Gary from the museum I just met them up there =) You can’t go wrong with the Packard and I still can’t get over how smooth it was
Haha I’m going to an AMC show this weekend to try to cover some stuff to break it all up I also have to reach out to a couple collections I found well I have a couple guys looking for cars for me and they found a 1932 Nash advanced eight not just one they found a collection with 16 of them in there.. so definitely going to do that as well
Jay…a story that is pertinent today, with the release of “Killers of the Flower Moon”. The story is about the Packard dealer in Tulsa. A Osage chief comes into the dealer with his squaw and all of his kids in tow to buy a new Twin Six. As you said, most were coachbuilt, especially with all of the oil money in Tulsa back in those days. Most Osage bought Pierces or Packards. The only car the dealer had in inventory was a hearse that had been ordered and then canceled by a mortuary. The dealer offered to order a new car to be custom built. The chief pulled out a wad of cash and loaded his family in the hearse. The dealer said he could never get the vision of all the kids looking out the hearse’s big windows as it headed back to the Osage reservation.
So many things that are completely irreplaceable. I would hope that photo and 3D printing technology might possibly reproduce things like those headlights one day.
The cowl lights on these early cars were for driving in cities. It was illegal to use your headlights in some cities, because they would scare the horses. It looks like a fun time was had by all in Greenfield Village!
Thank you so much for adding that I always wondered what Cowl lights were for if they were like a early version of fog lights.. just mounted on top instead of on the bottom Greenfield Village was a blast I can’t recommend that show enough it’s definitely should be on everybody’s bucket list at least do once for everyone in the hobby
That show is my favorite show now Gary was right it ruined me I’m still looking forward to Hershey but I wish there was more shows like this one it’s actually inspired me I would love to do a 30 through 1960 show set up just like this one day not in the foreseeable future lol
Thank you so much for the positive vibes and digging this channel we gotta keep this stuff alive and the passion out there are some more people drive this stuff more often especially to the average car show
Haha I should’ve asked the owner what the top speed of this was because a lot of cars didn’t go over 45.. I still can’t get over how smooth that engine is..
Another great car review. Note, as on many pre World War One vehicles, all the fittings were often made of brass. Due to supply constraints during World War One, the use of copper and other more precious metals for ammunition and other war materials, all cars switched away from brass to painted steel (Model T and some other cars) or nickel plating, then later to chrome. If it weren't for the wars, perhaps we would still have brass fittings on our cars today?
Thank you so much for the insight I said chrome because that’s what the owner said should have known lol it was nickel =) So many more coming going to an amc show on Saturday to break up some of the early stuff I wanna get back into doing some later 30s 40s 50s 60s stuff like don’t get me wrong I love the early stuff but we’ve been doing a lot of early stuff as of late and just like to have a variety over the week =) We are coming up on our two year anniversary is actually next week going to do a live show for that but I’m not entirely sure when i’m hoping Tuesday of next week I will definitely give you guys at least a weeks notice It would be awesome if we could do it at 4:30 and it lasts maybe an hour
This show was awesome and they share these cars with everyone goal is to host my own show one day like this with cars from 1930-1960 and encourage people to do the same thing I’m not a rich man but I want people to know what those cars are like.. I would want to do it for free the car hobby gets ruined with money everything has to cost so much money to do and I think it’s baloney.. And honestly that’s what ruins it for kids or younger generation they can’t participate because they can’t afford the show fees, and have to sit those shows out...
I always thought that I wanted to 26 I don’t not sure that I want one this hold and the more research I do they are really expensive car to own a a super eight Costs about half as much to maintain.. But I still can’t get over how smooth that engine was and quiet
Would I rather? For scenario #1, I'm goin' with the Packard. The Pierce Arrow is certainly nice but I never really cared aesthetically for the whole fender headlight thing. For scenario #2, it's a tough call but I'm going for the Crane Simplex. I'm an old sailor and the lines have a, 'nautical' look to me.
First choice the 1917 Peerless, the second the Crane-Simplex, wish you'd caught the guy on the Ford quadracycle and featured it. That one looks so sporty, like Henry thought about the Mustang at the very beginning with his first car.
I have more footage of him driving I’ll include it at the end of the next episode.. for something random those cars were roped off there was some stuff that wasn’t accessible those cars were replicas and they were roped off meanwhile they had two alburns on the outside of the ropes not roped off.. most everything you could walk right up to it except for a few things.. Great choices Canton Auto Museum has a crane Symplex it’s on the list of cars to do I’m going to cover every single car they have one day.. that was a really expensive car
@@What.its.like. Yea, the Crane, Cunningham, Peerless, Locomobiles (got to see one here in Texas ), Wills St Claire , some Pierces and Franklins and others were up there pricewise in their day, $4,000-10,000, haven't done the multiplier in today's dollars, that's more than a new Rolls, and a down payment on a vacation house together .
Haha yeah Rotella is a favorite top of the food chain oil for classic cars or so I’ve been told.. Personally I use dollar general brand oil in my truck because it’s one of the only conventional nonsynthetic oil is left.. everything Walmart sells is synthetic
For WYR, I'll pick the Packard for both scenarios. Why not? I'm impressed with this 106-year-old. But three gallons of oil? Good night, that alone must be expensive.
This car was incredible and it wasn’t that long of a car all things considered it was just really tall I mentioned in the video that I’m 6 foot two and it had probably 2 feet on me maybe more and sitting inside the greenhouse was 2nd to none Some more history about this car this car belong to that collection out in Arizona I can’t think of the guys name it starts with an H he had a huge museum in Arizona general power went and bought six cars from the collection and that this is one of them. They use this car is a promotional piece but I couldn’t find any place in the video to talk about that because they didn’t have it in the beginning they only bought it from the museum to advertise her tires sort of after the fact. It rode really nice some of those cars back then we’re really bouncy like we did a Nash the guy turned and I went with him
As far as motor oil is concerned, if it doesn't have an oil filter, it should ONLY use non-detergent oil. Without a filter, the non-detergent oil allows the heavier contaminants in the oil to fall to the bottom of the oil pan. Although there might be an oil drain plug, or oil drain cock(actuated by a rod accessible from the topside of the engine), there is s ump with a cleanable screen. The main purpose of a modern detergent type of oil is to keep the contaminants suspended in the oil so that they can be removed by a filter. A multi-weight oil is for a matter of convenience , so you don't have to change the weight of oil with the season. The problem is there are not any non-detergent multi-weight motor oils, so they are not for old cars. Using a detergent type of oil in an old car without a filter, the contaminants will end up in the bearings and shorten the life of the engine. Packards of this vintage use poured rod and main bearings. The shops that know how to do this are now far and few between.
It's got a heavy duty frame it sounds like 👍 good to see you Jay I have got to catch up I've been taking care of my uncle he isn't doing well. How did you like riding in it jay?
I have a 8 day eterna car clock in a brass case that looks like an easy mount to an early car. I have noticed that most cars cira 1920 only have Watham clock. I have not found cars that used the 8 day Eterna. I was hoping you could point me in the right direction of where and how the Eterna clock was used. The clock itself is quite common but the case that encloses the clock is well made in excellent condition has original purple felt. I am wondering perhaps this clock is an after market and attached to a circa 1920 following the purchase. The shape looks as though it would fit flush on the dashboard. I am most interested in knowing about the case that the clock fits in. The Watham clock from this 1917 would fit nicely in the case I have. I have pictures but not sure if I can attach them here. Thank you for any comment you have for me.
I have no idea, but I will try to get as much information as I possibly can I have some friends that are totally into cars from that era, i am too but they live breathe those cars I’m just a car enthusiast =)
Put it to you this way its head and shoulders above a 450 SL Mercedes which cost $130,000.. Might do an episode on expensive cars that suck this car doesn’t suck it was I would say it was worth it the engine was super smooth and I’m sure you’ll pay that or more than that now to own this caliber of car..
@@What.its.like. Well, a few more than 20 years ago I lost a relatively extensive automotive library and unfortunately am relying on memories of which I have forgotten more than most people ever knew (or maybe even cared to know). Mr Picky makes mistakes because of that, which is one of the reasons I like your videos. It is a trip down memory lane and I thank you 🫡😁🤯
I think it's 'The Entertainer' by Scott Joplin.
Yeah buddy congratulations you got it and you’re the first one right out of the gate =)
Tomorrow’s Engine episode Wednesday is going to be the Pontiac straight eight
🏆👏👏👏 well done 😊
Mabel at the wheel by Jimmy Dorsey is my favorite 👍 great Charlie Chaplin film 📽️ ☺️ Enjoy your Day 👋👋✌️
@@What.its.like. If you have never seen the silent movie --- Mabel at the wheel???
It's the first film showing a Motorcycle 🤔... Vintage Auto Race 👏👏👏👏👏✌️
The Entertainer had a massive second run as a hit on the charts in 1973 when composer Marvin Hamlisch placed along side his own music and strung it throughout the masterfully comically suspenseful movie about gamblers starting Newman and Redford, The Sting. Easily one of the most memorable and enjoyable films ever made.
I would love the Pierce Arrow and on seeing this Packard I would love it. The rear passenger area looks so luxurious, perfect for the clothing of the day
Thanks Jay, that car show looks excellent
Glad you dig this episode I can’t wait to cover some more cars actually can’t wait to go back to that show it’s left a lasting impression on me and Gary was right it did ruined me but we’re going to Hershey I’m going to spend three days they’re going to cover as much stuff as I possibly can. Hershey is different though they don’t drive the cars around like they do at this show. And that’s what makes it also if you ever go Saturday is the day to go they have what they call a parade at the end of the day all of the people can drive their cars at night with their lights on and that is awesome plus you’re in a town that has different types of streetlights some are electric some are gas Plus you have music in the background lots of like ragtime style piano music people dress the part it was an incredible atmosphere
Always loved the Model 48 Locomobile. Very underrated classic
Would love to cover a locomobile before this year is over =)
Engineered before CAD and made with out 5 axis CNC machine centers Real craftsmanship. I had the pleasure to work on a Packard of this vintage What an honor WYR. I take the Packard every time
All of the Above 🥰❤️❤️❤️👍
I could never choose a Winner from those Incredible Machines 👏👏👏👏
A Fantastic Episode ☺️
Your living life right 😉👌.. Enjoy your Adventures, Happy Motoring 👋👋🤠✌️
=) I still can’t get over how smooth this engine was that show was second to none and it’s absolutely ruined me just like Gary said it would.. haha
It's so great that you were able to feature a coachbuilt Packard with some very unique features. And it runs so smoothly! It was also great that the owner took you for a ride in it. What a treat.
This show is absolutely incredible Bill take anybody for a ride all you have to do is ask everybody is so nice and it’s almost like you go back in time for a weekend I was getting emotional walking around that was for sure because I was experiencing a time period that I should’ve been a part of you could go in all of the buildings or most of the buildings and when you push the door you actually have to push it because it’s not like pushing a piece of paper like it is now everything had a quality feel to it with the buildings and that’s something we’re lacking in this modern world..
17 Packard limo
17 Packard
Jay, you know I love Packard's and this beautiful packard is one of the reasons why. What a nice automobile.
The over the hood sections are even more impressive when viewed while you're actually riding in the car. Unbelievable that they actually had heating in the back of the car that was something that was unheard of in that time period. Talk about Packard being ahead of the curve.
Yeah this car was incredible I saw it drive by earlier that day and I was like wait what is that.. there is so much going on at that show it’s almost overwhelming especially for the very first time ever being there at the show very first time ever being at the Greenfield Village
Great choices I still can’t get over how smooth and quiet that engine is even when he reved it up it didn’t get loud
_nice_ doesn't do it justice.
_Glorious_ is faint praise for this machine.
These are the days YOU HAD to pay attention to Driving! Nice Jay!
Yeah can’t be in your cell phone and drive this so much going on
I should’ve explained the pump a little bit better that air pump was the pressurize the gas tank it didn’t have a fuel pump on it.. So periodically he would have to pump that
1 and 2, both Packard. I had to chuckle a bit when I first saw this car. The first thing that popped in my odd little head was "Welcome, to Downton Abbey"... LOL... What an amazingly beautiful AND complicated machine! Spark adjustment, air mixture, gear changes... talk about seriously driving a car! Could you imagine the PR nightmare of buying a vehicle nowdays, and a driver? Oy... 7 litres, 12 cylinders. and less horsepower than my '72 Pinto had. Technology and innovation has certainly come a very long way in a century. ONLY rear brakes? Jeeesh! Excellent job, Jay on reviewing this! And loved the little snippet about horseshoes. Little trivia things like that are great! It's true, you can learn something new everyday if you try!
Haha that would’ve been an epic Way to start I wish I would’ve thought of that. That car has that vibe.. That car was on the judge and green as well there was a lot of cars on the judge and green we got to do a Rickenbacker/ and Cole that was also on the judging green.. we got to go for a ride in the Cole the Rickenbacker/ that was the very first car that I saw. Super interesting can’t wait to tell the story I’m going to an AMC show on Saturday to film some stuff to separate the early stuff the channel doesn’t my audience isn’t into the early stuff but I want to cover the early stuff because there’s a lot more history to cover and I love talking about histories of companies that don’t exist anymore it’s like one of my favorite things. But also know that I got a cover what my base likes to watch because I don’t want it to become dry and we’ve covered a lot of 20s and 30s cars long stretch of that. So need to get some material to cut it up so to speak =)
@@What.its.like. Hey, throw whatever y like at us! And AMC's (and the companies that formed them before they merged) were awesome. A little out of the mainstream and usually ahead of their time. I mean, look at the Eagle. And what is everyone driving now? Wasn't it Nash that did the first unibody? (or was it Hudson?) Funny to think about, if any of those nameplates survived, they'd be under the Stellantis brand, which is from the Netherlands... We could be driving a 2023 Nash Cross Country which would be just a re-badged Vauxhall Grandland...
Hi Jay. Thanks for a look at a rare car. On the offset cylinder banks, it's particularly obvious on this one, but not unusual. You'd see a bit on a Ford flathead V8 for instance. On starting it with a crank, it's only a couple of years into the existence of the self starter, so the chauffeur would be expected to be able to crank start it. Seven litres would take some heft, but the compression wouldn't be much - like 4.5:1 or thereabouts. That probably also is a factor in the smoothness of the motor. Cars like this gave rise to the business of putting a coin on it's side atop a running motor. It looks like a largely original car - amazing!
That car was absolutely incredible it belong to General tire at one point they used to that as a promotional piece.. I couldn’t figure out where to work that into the video but there still if you type in Google packard imperial limo you’ll see all the advertisements that General tire used, it’s the same car
I still can’t get over how smooth it was we were going to do the coin track but it was not parked on level ground. And whisper quite
Hi Jay!: Now I KNOW you had a great time in Michigan! A ride in a Twin Six Packard!! What a COOL experience! And we all got to ride along!! SO EXCITING! You know, you just almost have to feel sorry for the wealthy original owner of such a fine machine! The Chauffeur got to have ALL the fun!! WYR#1 PACKARD! #2 This is a LOT harder! The Locomobile was also one FINE machine, and the Crane-Simplex. I mean Come on! Still have to go with the Twin-Six Packard!!
I wish you could’ve felt what I felt it was absolutely incredible and when the owner asked me when I was done with shooting it we could go for a ride I couldn’t believe what I heard. It was awesome experience I think we covered 15 cars when we were there and we got to ride in almost all of them there’s only a handful of ones that we didn’t ride in and that’s probably only because I didn’t ask to go for a ride. This show is the best show I’ve ever been to because it is what the Classic Car hobby should be. And in my opinion it’s the only way this stuff is going to get saved because a lot of this stuff doesn’t go to your average every day show you always see it at events like this or Concord event that you spend tons of money to go to.. this show I think it’s like $45 for entrance fee but you get a bracelet that get you in the park for both days both Saturday and Sunday Saturday is definitely the day to go not everybody goes back on Sunday Saturday they have this thing called a parade where they at night drive the cars through the streets with the acetylene lamps with the whole town is like that it’s an absolutely incredible experience and if you ever get the chance to go go don’t hesitate. Just go lol i’m going to promote the mess out of it next year when it gets closer to that time because I would love to see you guys go and experience it it is something definitely worth the drive to go to because there isn’t another experience like it, that I’m aware of.
3 1/2 gallons of oil though it’s starting to make me rethink if I want a twinsix Packard the maintenance costs alone just to have this car are astronomical.. so I think I’m going to revise my previous statement if I make it in this life I’m going to get a super eight.. but then again the twin six that comes in the second generation I don’t think are nearly as expensive to own their expensive don’t get me wrong they’re just not to the level that these were because they had a lot more refinement.. and I don’t think the crankcase is as big but I could be wrong
Great choices =)
i love that tall frame bike on top of those shelves thats me all the way nice
I'm loving the string of pre-war car episodes. I like 50s and 60s cars but seeing original pre-war cars is less common so it's more interesting to see what they're like
Going to an amc show this weekend to split them up more =) hopefully there will be some really cool stuff there
Gave a Like a minute and a half before it started based on previous quality of videos and that Packard name!
Yeah I premiere all the episodes so it gives everybody a free chance at name that tune at the end but it’s generally a minute and a half from when it airs just so everybody can get in the tent so to speak =)
Of all the cars you named I would choose Packard every time! Although the Pierce Arrow gave me pause. Jay Leno has a similar vintage Pierce Arrow video and several on older than this Packards
I’m a huge fan of Leno I think anybody that’s a car guy has watched his episodes he’s inspired me to do this as well as a couple other TH-cam channels.. leno is a guy that would love to just talk cars with =)
Wow! I used to live 2 miles from Greenfield Village and never knew this festival even existed. WYR: I'm with Chuck, Packards all the way!
Next year I want to try to get a whole group of people to go it’s absolutely incredible I definitely want to take my family I sort of wanna get a pre-war car but I don’t think I’ll be able to afford to take it there
besides I could have any car from the 30s it would probably be a 36 or 37 airflow I really want one of those and I want to share it with as many people as I possibly can
Next year I want to try to get a whole group of people to go it’s absolutely incredible I definitely want to take my family I sort of wanna get a prewar car but I don’t think I’ll be able to afford to take it there besides I could have any car from the 30s it would probably be a 36 or 37 airflow I really want one of those and I want to share it with as many people as I possibly can
That show has inspired me I would love to host a 30-60 era show and encourage people to drive the cars around just like that but I don’t want to charge an entry fee for people to get in or to host the event like a lot of times it becomes a giant money grab and I get it people need paid for things but a lot of times that’s how the car hobby especially the Classic Car hobby is viewed and all it does is hurt the people at the bottom that are trying to experience this stuff for the very first time.
Another fantastic episode! The drives are awesome and I happy you got to do them! What an amazing car and show - thanks for taking us along. WYR: Well, you already know my answers - Packard and Packard (BIATP). ~ Chuck
Off the top of my head here’s a list of all the cars that we covered during that show got the ride in most of them
1917 Cole
1928 Rickenbacker I think it was a 28 I’ll have to double check that
1929 willys knight
1928 falcon knight
1928 whippet
1923 chandler
1931 Chrysler cf
1904 St. Louis
1904 olds curved dash
1917 franklin
192? Franklin
1930 Hupmoblie that one I didn’t get to finish I didn’t get to do the dash I didn’t get to get inside of it or anything so I’m not sure just ran out of time..
1926 Nash advanced 6
I think that’s it I might’ve missed one or two not sure but the sleeve valve episodes are going to be interesting because the guy explains how the sleeve system works which is awesome
Next year I want to try to get a group of people and go up there to that event it’s absolutely incredible I think it cost $40 to get in but I believe the wristbands good for the whole weekend.. Saturday is definitely the day to go Sunday there isn’t as many people there like they pack up and go evidently there’s a tour or some thing that they do on Wednesday Gary from the eye went with Gary from the museum I just met them up there =)
You can’t go wrong with the Packard and I still can’t get over how smooth it was
@@What.its.like. Outstanding list of cars. I have to put this on my 2024 calendar.
Haha
I’m going to an AMC show this weekend to try to cover some stuff to break it all up I also have to reach out to a couple collections I found well I have a couple guys looking for cars for me and they found a 1932 Nash advanced eight not just one they found a collection with 16 of them in there.. so definitely going to do that as well
WYR If I had the budget for any of those, I'd take them all, and add a 1914-1917 Pathfinder and a Marmon into the mix.
Jay…a story that is pertinent today, with the release of “Killers of the Flower Moon”.
The story is about the Packard dealer in Tulsa. A Osage chief comes into the dealer with his squaw and all of his kids in tow to buy a new Twin Six. As you said, most were coachbuilt, especially with all of the oil money in Tulsa back in those days. Most Osage bought Pierces or Packards.
The only car the dealer had in inventory was a hearse that had been ordered and then canceled by a mortuary. The dealer offered to order a new car to be custom built. The chief pulled out a wad of cash and loaded his family in the hearse. The dealer said he could never get the vision of all the kids looking out the hearse’s big windows as it headed back to the Osage reservation.
Awesome story thank you so much for sharing that =)
Stunning!!
So many things that are completely irreplaceable. I would hope that photo and 3D printing technology might possibly reproduce things like those headlights one day.
Awesome car packard - crane
Awesome choices =)
The cowl lights on these early cars were for driving in cities. It was illegal to use your headlights in some cities, because they would scare the horses.
It looks like a fun time was had by all in Greenfield Village!
Thank you so much for adding that I always wondered what Cowl lights were for if they were like a early version of fog lights.. just mounted on top instead of on the bottom
Greenfield Village was a blast I can’t recommend that show enough it’s definitely should be on everybody’s bucket list at least do once for everyone in the hobby
A lot of the bright work was nickle plated as chrome wasn't used until 1928. Keep up the great vids!!
Thank you for that correction =)
What a treat!
That show is my favorite show now Gary was right it ruined me I’m still looking forward to Hershey but I wish there was more shows like this one it’s actually inspired me I would love to do a 30 through 1960 show set up just like this one day not in the foreseeable future lol
Thank you for this remarkable content a fabulous automobile.
Thank you so much for the positive vibes and digging this channel we gotta keep this stuff alive and the passion out there are some more people drive this stuff more often especially to the average car show
The rear fender flares are for when he adds the slicks at the dragstrip. lol🤪
Haha I should’ve asked the owner what the top speed of this was because a lot of cars didn’t go over 45..
I still can’t get over how smooth that engine is..
Another great car review. Note, as on many pre World War One vehicles, all the fittings were often made of brass. Due to supply constraints during World War One, the use of copper and other more precious metals for ammunition and other war materials, all cars switched away from brass to painted steel (Model T and some other cars) or nickel plating, then later to chrome. If it weren't for the wars, perhaps we would still have brass fittings on our cars today?
Thank you so much for the insight I said chrome because that’s what the owner said should have known lol it was nickel =)
So many more coming going to an amc show on Saturday to break up some of the early stuff I wanna get back into doing some later 30s 40s 50s 60s stuff like don’t get me wrong I love the early stuff but we’ve been doing a lot of early stuff as of late and just like to have a variety over the week =)
We are coming up on our two year anniversary is actually next week going to do a live show for that but I’m not entirely sure when i’m hoping Tuesday of next week I will definitely give you guys at least a weeks notice It would be awesome if we could do it at 4:30 and it lasts maybe an hour
Very cool, great vid!!
This show was awesome and they share these cars with everyone goal is to host my own show one day like this with cars from 1930-1960 and encourage people to do the same thing I’m not a rich man but I want people to know what those cars are like..
I would want to do it for free the car hobby gets ruined with money everything has to cost so much money to do and I think it’s baloney..
And honestly that’s what ruins it for kids or younger generation they can’t participate because they can’t afford the show fees, and have to sit those shows out...
The Entertainer by Scott Joplin 🤞🤞
That’s the song And band somebody just beat you to the title though vintage car history beat you for title
@@What.its.like. 🤷 Can't win them all 😂
Keep up the great Work ✌️
Its nice you could ride it. I wouldn't want any car pre 1932, just too quirkey.
I always thought that I wanted to 26 I don’t not sure that I want one this hold and the more research I do they are really expensive car to own a a super eight Costs about half as much to maintain..
But I still can’t get over how smooth that engine was and quiet
My grandfather had late 1910s and early 1920s cars like over 10 years ago but he send them all
Would I rather? For scenario #1, I'm goin' with the Packard. The Pierce Arrow is certainly nice but I never really cared aesthetically for the whole fender headlight thing. For scenario #2, it's a tough call but I'm going for the Crane Simplex. I'm an old sailor and the lines have a, 'nautical' look to me.
Awesome choices going to cover the crane Symplex I wonder if it’s the same car.. at that museum because it’s looks very Similar
First choice the 1917 Peerless, the second the Crane-Simplex, wish you'd caught the guy on the Ford quadracycle and featured it. That one looks so sporty, like Henry thought about the Mustang at the very beginning with his first car.
I have more footage of him driving I’ll include it at the end of the next episode.. for something random those cars were roped off there was some stuff that wasn’t accessible those cars were replicas and they were roped off meanwhile they had two alburns on the outside of the ropes not roped off.. most everything you could walk right up to it except for a few things..
Great choices Canton Auto Museum has a crane Symplex it’s on the list of cars to do I’m going to cover every single car they have one day.. that was a really expensive car
@@What.its.like. Yea, the Crane, Cunningham, Peerless, Locomobiles (got to see one here in Texas ), Wills St Claire , some Pierces and Franklins and others were up there pricewise in their day, $4,000-10,000, haven't done the multiplier in today's dollars, that's more than a new Rolls, and a down payment on a vacation house together .
21:54 lol just like Deric from Vice Grip Garage…
Haha yeah Rotella is a favorite top of the food chain oil for classic cars or so I’ve been told..
Personally I use dollar general brand oil in my truck because it’s one of the only conventional nonsynthetic oil is left.. everything Walmart sells is synthetic
For WYR, I'll pick the Packard for both scenarios. Why not? I'm impressed with this 106-year-old.
But three gallons of oil? Good night, that alone must be expensive.
This car was incredible and it wasn’t that long of a car all things considered it was just really tall I mentioned in the video that I’m 6 foot two and it had probably 2 feet on me maybe more and sitting inside the greenhouse was 2nd to none
Some more history about this car this car belong to that collection out in Arizona I can’t think of the guys name it starts with an H he had a huge museum in Arizona general power went and bought six cars from the collection and that this is one of them. They use this car is a promotional piece but I couldn’t find any place in the video to talk about that because they didn’t have it in the beginning they only bought it from the museum to advertise her tires sort of after the fact.
It rode really nice some of those cars back then we’re really bouncy like we did a Nash the guy turned and I went with him
As far as motor oil is concerned, if it doesn't have an oil filter, it should ONLY use non-detergent oil. Without a filter, the non-detergent oil allows the heavier contaminants in the oil to fall to the bottom of the oil pan. Although there might be an oil drain plug, or oil drain cock(actuated by a rod accessible from the topside of the engine), there is s ump with a cleanable screen.
The main purpose of a modern detergent type of oil is to keep the contaminants suspended in the oil so that they can be removed by a filter.
A multi-weight oil is for a matter of convenience , so you don't have to change the weight of oil with the season. The problem is there are not any non-detergent multi-weight motor oils, so they are not for old cars. Using a detergent type of oil in an old car without a filter, the contaminants will end up in the bearings and shorten the life of the engine. Packards of this vintage use poured rod and main bearings. The shops that know how to do this are now far and few between.
Awesome information it was great talking to you this evening =)
17 Packard Imperial
17 Locomobile they were the biggest of the era! And used to be steam!
Great choices
I would love to cover at least one steam car before this year is over but I really want the owner to explain how everything works =)
It's got a heavy duty frame it sounds like 👍 good to see you Jay I have got to catch up I've been taking care of my uncle he isn't doing well. How did you like riding in it jay?
Silk smooth was the ride =)
I’m pretty sure got o drive one these many years ago
1: One of each so I can rent 2 of them out.
2: One of each so I can drive them all.
That thing needs a custom built garage for it to even fit.
Great choices yeah it would need a high entrance way to get in that’s for sure
I have a 8 day eterna car clock in a brass case that looks like an easy mount to an early car. I have noticed that most cars cira 1920 only have Watham clock. I have not found cars that used the 8 day Eterna. I was hoping you could point me in the right direction of where and how the Eterna clock was used. The clock itself is quite common but the case that encloses the clock is well made in excellent condition has original purple felt. I am wondering perhaps this clock is an after market and attached to a circa 1920 following the purchase. The shape looks as though it would fit flush on the dashboard. I am most interested in knowing about the case that the clock fits in. The Watham clock from this 1917 would fit nicely in the case I have. I have pictures but not sure if I can attach them here. Thank you for any comment you have for me.
I have no idea, but I will try to get as much information as I possibly can I have some friends that are totally into cars from that era, i am too but they live breathe those cars I’m just a car enthusiast =)
The Entertainer
Yeah buddy
Czar Nicholas II of Russia and his brother both had Packard Twin Sixes.
Awesome trivia
Wasn't the chrome plating you allude to nickel?
Yes it’s nickel
So, having not only looked it over, but also experienced a drive in it……was it worth almost $118,000 in todays money back then?
Put it to you this way its head and shoulders above a 450 SL Mercedes which cost $130,000..
Might do an episode on expensive cars that suck this car doesn’t suck it was I would say it was worth it the engine was super smooth and I’m sure you’ll pay that or more than that now to own this caliber of car..
Pierce
Locomobile
I would love to cover To cover a locomobile before this year is over =)
Packard could not have competed with Lincoln because does not 1917 predate 1921 when the first Lincoln appeared? Mr. Picky strikes again.
Great catch =)
@@What.its.like. Well, a few more than 20 years ago I lost a relatively extensive automotive library and unfortunately am relying on memories of which I have forgotten more than most people ever knew (or maybe even cared to know). Mr Picky makes mistakes because of that, which is one of the reasons I like your videos. It is a trip down memory lane and I thank you 🫡😁🤯
This MFer can't stop; get out of the way keystone cop. 😎
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