Which Tows Better? 2018 Infiniti QX80 vs GMC Yukon Denali vs World's Toughest Towing Test
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You didn't have the tow mode on in the Infiniti. If you did, the green lighted TOW MODE would have been ON in your dash views. Your entire run needs to be done over so you can score this vehicle properly. You would have better shifting, better times, less braking and better gas mileage using the tow mode button. You said you were using it, but the dash light not being lit up is a dead give away that you forgot. You have to turn it on every time you start it, as the ignition cancels it out when you turn it off.
How come you used the weight distributing hitch for the Denali and not for the QX80? Doesn't that dramatically affect squat and sway?
That was hilarious when Andre got under Mr. Truck’s skin about keeping it at 60mph. It wasn’t the first time he’s done that either lol.
He didn't appreciate that...lol
I love that you can see the trunion bars are missing while he measures the "squat".
9:07 clearly shows they weren't using the trunion bars on the WDH while towing with the QX80 either.
Not only does using a WDH on the Yukon but not the QX80 make this an unequal comparison, but if the trailer weighs over 5000 pounds, they're not following the QX80's recommendationed towing practices by failing to use a WDH.
I own a 2017 Infiniti qx80 and I am in love with the 2018 qx80. 100% trading mine in!
I would take the QX80 over the denali any day!
You smoking crack if you take the QX80 over the Denali.
@j_o1ne483 not now but 3 years ago when this video was posted I would.
At 7:45 in video when you're reviewing the interior, you'll notice there is a button labeled "Tow Mode". Did you engage it? Granted it won't change the axle ratio but it does change the shift points.
I have one as well and when tow mode is engaged you will see in green letters on you cluster tow mode. I didn't see it in there test.
Great to see you all are still enthusiastic and having fun after years of doing this!
Trucks and towing are in our blood. We cannot imagine another life.
How come you used the WDH on the GMC and not the Infiniti? Seems like a constant that should have been the same on both! Great video, keep it up!
keep going guys
you are providing towing information like nobody else
thanks
WOW> What a comparison. Andre goes and complains about the squat on the Infinity QX80...then when you actually look they performed the whole test without a weight distribution hitch on the infinity but had it set up on the GM... NO SHIT SHERLOCK... You will get more squat when you don't use a weight distribution hitch.. Probably much more sway and shitty feel too. Nice comparison boys..
I like how you guys did the Gold Hitch Award Videos better before, rather than all these back and forth/behind the scenes clips. Nevertheless, the video was accurate and really explained the fairness behind your tests up the IKE Gauntelt!
Nice video! I have been wondering how the QX80 tows.
Awesome video, thanks guys... Keep up the good work!
Thanks.
Sooo, you didn’t use the WDH on the Infiniti?
The Tesla Model X is rated to tow 5000 lbs in Norway. Towing that up the Ike Gauntlet and down and seeing what happens to the range would be really interesting. It would get you guys a shipload of views too!
Yep, we agree. But we have not been able to get a Model X yet.
Yes, I bet it would be a real PITA to tow in snowy hill country with the X, then find no recharge stations and hope for a motel with some power outlets. Except, you could just punish a $10K used SUV to do that (massive waste of money to rag out a $100K car with limited utility, for this towing purpose).
With the cold weather, and A heavy trailer, just save your money and buy a bicycle. It probably can go farther.😏😏
The reason why the Infiniti was squatting is due to the lack of a weight distribution hitch. We towed our less than 7,700 lb RV with our 2011 QX56 and we had a weight distribution hitch and it did very well towing
Great video guys,very helpful..but i still prefer the Infiniti everytime..
Greetings from Yemen
A video that I'd like to see, is a little more detail on trailering. What are all of the electrical connections? What are the different, or state of the art, connections? For example, my old truck has a different connector and I need to use an adapter to match most trailers. What is lacking in this scenario? How, when, and why do you use a brake controller? How much of a trailer do you need before you start worrying about the brake controller? How many of us just want to get out of town and find electrical issues with their trailer? (My hand is raised.) What are some good debug strategies?
It looked like even in the new 10 speed Yukon trans your RPMs were bouncing. Did the Yukon have a hard time finding the right gear to climb? I don't tow enough to justify a tow specific vehicle so Im considering buying a slightly used 2018 Yukon XL Denali. Thx
3:10 --"I like the stitching." ** Camera man zooms into misaligned stitches... C'mon, GM.
David Gatto Lmaoo
David Gatto I Saw that too
Yeah I was about to comment on that too
100 % true :D
I saw that too!
I love the redesign on that Infiniti 😁
I have a Nissan Armada which is about the same as the Infinity. I liked your test, except for the subjective part. (I like all of the evidence to be empirical.) I believe that the Infinity (a glorified Nissan Patrol) would have been faster up the hill with a changed rear end ratio (like 3.23's) and a 10 speed transmission. I am basing that on book knowledge AND by seeing the amount revs that were lost on up-shifts and gained on down-shifts. But your test was true. It wasn't a 'what if' test, it was a 'as is' test. One thing the viewers should consider is that; if the rear end squats, the viewer should compensate the height difference by buying a tongue with a drop or rise that will level the trailer with the truck. Oh, the Nissan/Infinity mirrors DO suck. Good job👍
I think y’all guys are awesome I love truck
But the Mirrors, on the GMC isn't there an option to upgrade them for larger one's for towing... I'm sure it might be in the GM option book? GM Performance catalog...
That QX is gorgeous.
@@leonardrice1500 no u and its Infiniti
It’s hideous
Less ugly than last gen. Nice interior
Andre gets a little attitude in the Infinity.....
Why didn’t you press the tow button on the Infiniti QX80?
I’ll better go for the infinity qx80 it look more sporty, luxury and less problem.
To save money get a Nissan Armada.
Mt. Truck makes this channel legit! Awesome video!
Thanks, but I'm really not a mountain
"I like the little way they've done the stitching here" -> Crooked interior panels
Andre and Kent are like that couple thats been married for 100yrs and are on a road trip with no a/c😂
Love my Denali every time I’m
in it. ❤️
Mr Truck loves to show off the trailer.
Please do a mid size suv trailer review on the 2019 honda pilot vs the kia telluride.
I like the style of the infinity but I really like the GMC
Great review, who’s playing the song??
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see a single manual downshift in this video nor any other ike gauntlet video. It seems like you guys let the automatic transmissions do all the thinking which makes a world of difference to rpm consistency and torque delivery.
I don't understand the huge jump and drop in engine RPM between gears on the Infinity, like it has a 3-speed trans. Something seems very wrong with the transmission control unit. The rear end sag from trailer tongue weight isn't good. I'm guessing that Infinity expects less than 1% of the QX-80 owners will tow anything heavier than a single axle trailer with a couple Harleys on it.
A real test would be to do it with how these trucks are typically used, load up a family of four with gear, and attach a 27 or 30 foot camper trailer.
How much did this trailer and load weigh? I did not hear you mention it even once in the video. I hear about how you have water in there and that is your weight... great to know... HOW MUCH WEIGHT?
If those were 330 gal totes they weigh 2,750lbs a tote if 220 1,835lbs. And that trailer it’s self is probably in the neighborhood of 3-4,000lbs 🤷♂️.
Rated for 8500 was sagging like every bit of 8500 was on that hitch.
@@blaing3354 Maybe because they (for some reason) did not use an equalizer hitch on the Infinity while they did on the GMC. Then they say the Infinity squatted, No Shit tSherlock. Look at time stamp 9.07. No equalizer hitch, just a conventional ball and hitch used.
y'all should do a towing vid of an 8.1 suburban or Yukon xl
No, we have not tested the 8.1L.
1988toyota i own a 8.1 and while it would be at lower rpm i think the 6.2 will outperform a 8.1 in the hills. but the 8.1 will out last these small blocks
GM fan I agree!..i also own a 8.1. mine is in a 2002 Yukon xl with 458000 on the engine. doesn't smoke, tick or make any funny noises..besides an exhaust leak😂
You should do an Old vs.New with the Yukon and its' '70s equivalent (which would be more likely a Buick Estate Wagon or Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser than the actual GMC SUVs of the time).
GMC Yukon vs GMC Jimmy
and how many times did you see one of those two '70s vehicles towing that much in that size trailer? I'm going to guess never. It'd be more appropriate to compare a '70s F250 pickup.
That 2.97 axle ratio is brutally tall. Like pedaling a bike up a hill in your 21st speed
Why doesnt the infiniti have the trunion bars installed?
Infiniti has way less problems.
98durangopack I would love to agree here because my QX56 was a nice truck but it was plagued with inherit issues. Exhaust manifolds leaked, HVAC door actuators failed, air suspension leaked down, ABS VSS lights came on and went out randomly. HID light drivers failed. These issues happened to every owner over on the Nissan forum I was part of. Otherwise it was a ok truck own but so many issues over time. I hope they ironed these nagging issues out so long term owners don't get burned.
As I can't tell you my job I will agree with you. The problems you brought up are certainly issues with that platform. I will say this. Just read about the drivetrain of the Ecoboost is as well as the (LS) based vehicles. LS starts right about the time AFM on the 2007 1500s GM. Before then was ok.
The point I'm going after is, the VK56 is without a doubt one of the most robust engines being made from 04-15 aka Gen 1.
Failure rate one of the lowest. Egoboost and GM can't say that even if all sales were equal.
98durangopack Oh yea the VK engine is sweet. Lots of low end power for a cammer and very reliable. Jatco transmissions are very good too. Despite the numbers on paper it seemed to have more power than it was rated for.
Geoff Moore ofc. Every car has its issues, but it also does depend on how well you take care of it too.
Geoff Moore truck?
No answer back about WDH on the gm and not on the Qx?
I think one of the main reason why the Yukon has smaller mirrors is because it has lane departure warning. So you can adjust your mirrors On the trailer it self. But that’s just my opinion.
It's because it's considered a luxury vehicle for people who don't really tow much... just has the truck platform so it "can" if you need it to. Bigger mirrors would have been unsightly for the 96% of the time it's not being used to tow and if you really want to have good towing mirrors and can spend $80K on a vehicle to do it, you really ought to scrounge up another $300 for towing mirrors. They are not hard to install, but of course you'd be well enough off to pay someone to do that too.
I have the same 2018 qx80 and towed for the first time last night my 24 foot camper that weighs 4700 pounds with the tongue weight of around 470 pounds. Used a weight distribution hitch. I felt a little bit of stuttering or jerkiness when when accelerating at from a stop but mostly it was buttery smooth. Did you guys notice any of that? Any tips on connecting or disconnecting with the air ride suspension? Should you do this with the truck on or off?
i'm in love with the QX80
Woof! Looks like we got the same Infiniti QX80 for our video! Come by and visit, woof woof :) Infiniti looks good but side by side next to this GM... we kinda like the GM exterior more!
And how much is with the Infiniti QX60 2014 Engine 3.5
Completely paid by GMC..lol
I have that T-shirt Nathan is wearing
What was the "tongue weight" of that Monster?...Towing weight?
I dint know what it is, but Infiniti looks better. Maybe its the curves vs the block styling. I am surprised it squatted so much though. But interior was much nicer than that if the GMC. Great video, maybe lexus LX, vs all these or have a full shootout with all these big boys. Thx fellas
Btw, did Andre and ken seem lil chippy with one another in couple of these clips??
We're like an old married couple, we have to argue. We we agreed on everything, it wouldn't help the comparison. We should see the trucks from different angle. Mostly I'm right
Dave Lusk Infiniti is by far my top pick. Got much more room, and much more luxurious features.
I LOVE Infiniti QX80
Did they give the overall score for the ike?
JK, i was impatient
The Infinity is on par with the Cadillac not GMC, Price wise
I can tell you're making a paid commercial for the GMC, because I have both of them and there is no way that is truth.
You don't have both. Stop the cap.
How did you know?
Just because you can't afford shit 😅 ,it doesn't mean that I can't 😂😂
“Americans make big and inefficient engines” lol at the infinity fuel economy
CyberVeg you realize that engine production has nothing to do with how efficient it is right..?
3:08 stitching doesn’t line up
grifster981234567890 Lmaoo. That’s how shitty their interior is..
I was curious if anyone else would notice that.
That would irritate me to no end spending that much $$$
omg it does
Thank goodness someone else noticed that. It was driving me insane
Test the Sequoia! I'd love to see how it compares.
Thank
I have an 09 infiniti QX 5.6 and I love it... I has 240,000 miles and and no problems what's so ever... runs strong and I also have an 2018 yukon but with a 5.3 and the infiniti is way stronger
Who the heck is gonna tow something with an Infiniti?
Thesportsfan me
Me u got a problem
Me u got a problem
I am, I have a 20ft car hauler to take my car to the track and rented a U-Haul to move (Tx/CA). I live in SoCal and most soccer moms have Yukon or Tahoes, them chicks ain’t ever towing
The car on this I talk lot LOL 😹😹
When's the new lincoln navigator going up the gauntlet?
But the Infinity Q80 only has a rear axle ration of 2.93,..hardly suitable for towing, and especially that load.
I wonder what the numbers would have been if the Infinity had a taller gear ratio?
This has been going on for a while now. But you can tell these 2 annoy each other. Andre fuels the situation with his attitude and Mr. Truck fights back (don’t blame him) as he should. They need to sit down and talk it out.
Expensive SUV that can’t pull or Platinum F450 same price.
Kent stay tuff you got teased about the single hay bale and now your driving....Mr. Truck is literally the driving factor in the Ike Gauntlet Test.
Thanks, that's my middle name "tuff"
Steven Ruble Infiniti’s got more room, and much more luxurious features as well as a better looking interior. QX looks more appealing to me. And in general the QX sounds badass
why do you rely on the computer for fuel mileage? has the computer ever been right on the mpg loop? no...and id rather see a 60 to 0 mph to compare each trucks brakes or 30 to 0 if you dont want to beat on the trucks
, not how often i have to brake on the way down
We do it because there are no gas stations at over 11,000 feet of elevation. The logistics become too complicated to do a pump mpg check on the Ike Gauntlet. If we get more subscribers and more views, our budget will be higher and we can do more.
Your comparing two different things. Brake applications shows the software and drivetrains ability to safely manage a load down hill. Where as distance is more about crash avoidance
8:54 - 9:14
That was shade...
Ok once again guys a good job! I have to say though, the Infinity must loose at least 10 points because it’s so ugly! Weird looking to. But the GMC gave it a good thrashing! About 30 sec quicker and 30% better mileage!
Do a ram power wagon or 2010 ram rebel
We towed with a Ram Power Wagon last year. You should check it out.
Do you guys not manual shift going uphill? Is the point of the test to see what the automatic does? I always let the transmission do a downshift when needed then follow it down manually and keep it there until I get to the top of the hill. This way it wont hunt and keeps the engine in a good rev range.
They let the vehicle do all the shifting on its own to see how the shift algorithms compare between models.
06RedfireGT I see. I don't think that will ever work well until there is a way for the driver to enter the estimated load weight or select different levels of tow/haul aggressiveness.
You can see the GM shifting a bunch in the one scene and the tach flying all over the place. Then you see the Infiniti stuck in a high gear and the truck loosing speed even though he said his foot was too the floor. Both scenarios are hard on the transmission and reduce power going to the pavement.
They use tow/haul mode if the truck has it and leave the rest up to the trucks software. Its done this way to keep it even as if they started doing it the test kinda nullified as not everyone will do it the same or at all.
My dad has a infiniti and he once smoked a Corvette and a lamborghini I saw one yesterday
in the infinity they were averaging 4.4 mpg lmao
Why didn't they just set the cruise control at 60mph?
Because its unsafe to tow on hills with cruise...in fact many manuals explicitly say do not do it
I’m buying the Infiniti
You to use third gear towing up in the qx80
QX80 looks beautifull
I emailed tfl and nobody responded could you please
Please respond
Pls
Connor Boehler How long have you been waiting?
Please resend your question to andreontrucks@gmail.com
I’m sorry but a 4 for the Yukon in features and a 3 for the Infiniti. Cmon, be a little bit less biased.
Gmc turns off by itself after 20 minutes. Try taking a nap at the restop in cold weather In that car. Gm I s doing some pretty stupid things lately. I'll go with infinity just for that. Plus I want my v8 working all the time.
The Happy Hippo always does well in everything but mpg .... did Cliffhanger with no sweat, too. Beautiful interior .... boring exterior color choices
2018 Ford Expedition has same crappy mpg.
A barn will never get good mileage, but Expedition towed the Ike @ 3.8 mpg vs Yukon's 4.7 mpg. I think Ford left the Eco out of the Ecoboost...
Qx 80 best of best suv
Darn I hate that crosstrex commercial.
He raced both cars at the same time
2019
If you want to tow get a OneTon turbo charge!!!
Don’t the 2.93 help with fuel economy.? If empty.?
Ranjit Not necessarily. Depends what the top ratio is in the transmission. The overall driveline ratio matters. Not just the final drive ratio.
Ranjit it's really a piece of shit okay anybody can get an upholsterer to go into the vehicle and upgrade it you could take a base GMC and have it upgraded and it would be far superior to anything Infinity whatever make number one number to infinity and GMC do not even compete it's Cadillac
You do not own 2 big ass vehicles that are 70k plus.
@09infintig37x Seems like a waste of good garage space to have so much utility overlap and yet to have wasted the space on the QX80 when the one thing it would have needed to do as well, it can't. As far as creature comforts and people hauling, there's no need to waste fuel on something that large. Unless the occupants are whales.
Qx80 is the best
I love Infiniti best suv
I would like to see this test with a Yukon or Tahoe with the 5.3.
Infiniti or Lexus?
Lexus. Best in the world. Will last forever
Hopefully they fixed Infiniti's oil burning issues...
RadoMark408 I’ve owned an Infiniti QX56 for 10 years and I’ve never heard of or experienced such a thing of “oil burning issue”
I think your confused with GM burning oil, piston slapping etc. No they haven't addressed it. Nissan know now to build an engine.
Little tense there from 8:55-9:13. Andre stop being annoying and cool it Mr. Truck.
Dash in the Yukon looks like it's from 2006! Unacceptable in 78k vehicle!!!
Andy Hass the Infiniti's center stack though...
mike wellington I would buy the infinity just so I could put my gun in the Dash! Lol
Andy Hass I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not but the GMC doesn't compete with the infinity it competes with Cadillac
Mike Cav what kind of stupid comment is that?! They r both in the 80k range! Heck escalates r over 100k. Who cares? They r all over priced crap.
Andy Hass Infiniti is by far much better looking and appealing. It’s Got much more room, and much more luxurious.
its 2018 and trucks are still hunting for gears. embarrassing.