@R AJ Actually yes people do. They are torture testing these rigs by towing (some of them) max tow weight set trailers up a an extreme grade. People towing will encounter this situation either using the trucks for work or towing up mountain passes. If you want to watch flat towing check out their mpg loops where they are on flat ground. #tfltruck
@R AJ you've obviously never driven around with guys who work. Trucks get pushed hard when your not looking. Anyways, if the trucks can handle the torture test then it's capable in the general public's untrained hands. That's the whole point.
@@JohnDoe-nz6bk I think the Jeep did well towing its maximum weight. It did much better time than the 2020 GM 2500 gasser towing its own max weight and did it with better MPG than 1500 and F250 as well. WDH should have been used on all but the F250. That being said, I'll be towing 8000 lbs with an F250 and NOT with a Jeep :)
Could you guys do a towing and mpg test of two of the same HD truck, same build and motor. but with different axle ratios? Like 3.73 vs 4.10 “ram” or 3.55 vs 4.30 “ford”. I really want to SEE what difference there is in towing time and fuel consumption. Both with and without a trailer, 0-60 time, and time up the Ike gauntlet 👍🙏
Mike Hunt I second this test. I am looking to buy a new XLT/Lariat F150 that will be my daily/adventure rig. I come from an off-roading background and like high geared vehicles, but have never really cared about fuel economy up until I moved to CA.
I believe they already did the fuel economy test on the 4.30 vs 3.55 Ford, they haven’t done the max load tow test on the 3.55, only on the 4.30 blue F250 where it killed it on the Ike, probably my next power train for sure and I’m currently in a 6.7 Cummins. I think the 4.30 cost them about 2 mpg on an empty highway run.
I'm also curious about the Powerstrokes with the 3.31 axle. Everything I see has the 3.55, and I'm wondering if there's an appreciable diference in performance or mpg with the taller rear end.
FINALLY a test using the same trailer, I HATE when MotorTrend or C&D tests trucks with a percentage of their max trailer capacity... that doesn't help at all! If I have a 4000 boat and trailer or 6000 pound camper or 8000 pound horse trailer, I want to know how well various trucks can tow THAT trailer, not as a function of their max capability. I'm most surprised by the fuel economy of the Godzilla powered F250, the whole point of that design (other than low maintenance) was MPGs. I'll have to watch the mpg loop tow test to see how it fared. At any rate, nice test guys!
You guys really need to do this with three of the same brand truck. Like Colorado vs Silverado 1500 vs 2500, or ranger vs f150 vs f250. This test is kind of apples and oranges
I mean we've actually seen from the other tests that the segments are actually pretty close to each other. The mid-size trucks reform about the same as each other and the full size 1/2 tons perform about the same. That becomes even more true when you have the same load between all of the vehicles. This test shows that I'd expect, that maxing out a midsize truck is much worse for towing then putting barely any weight on a 3/4 ton or a good working load on a half ton.
@@SSMJ yea but the ranger and the colorado/canyon dont have a engine desgined for a minivan in it unlike the gladiator. i think colorado 3.6 vs the silverado 5.3 would be a good comparison. and you shouldnt be cross shopping a colorado and a heavy duty in my opinion if the truck is consistantly towing 80% or more of a half tons limit or past that limit than get a heavy duty otherwise you dont need it (i would say ranger vs f-150 but the engine options cause to much diffrentiation and youd need to test every power terrain and thats not reasonable)
@@shaunclancey1107 Hate to break it to you, the 3.8 liter was the one designed for the minivan, the 3.6 has been put in either sports cars or the Wrangler lol. Having driven all three, knowing the powerband and Dyno results for all three, they're incredibly similar, with the Taco being the slowest, the Gladiator being the next, and the Colorado being the fastest and in my opinion the most fun-to-drive. I'm going to stand by my point that this is a fair comparison, feel free to disagree.
@@SSMJ hate to break it to you but the 3.6 pentastar is in the dodge caravan. yes its also in the v6 "sports cars" but its not the desired engine option for a reason. second even if you were right those two classes being a budget sports car and a off road dedicated suv are not meant for towing or hauling and neither is the gladiator. i say i would like to see a comparison that is against 2 trucks that are likely to be cross shopped and are meant to do a trucks job. and this a is a towing comparison video i couldnt care less about your claimed dyno results as i dont care about a 0-60 on a truck meant to do a trucks job. now i say id like to see a video of colorado vs 1500 because someone who tows there boat or small camper or even consistant 5000lbs towing runs might want to know which fits there needs better while being the best bang for there buck in reliability and on fuel now i think this is a unfair comparison because the gladiator is so out of its desgined purpose proof being that it doesnt have a trailer brake and that from this test they seemed very worried when it was being tested and its partly due to a suspension thats not made for towing you are welcome to disagree but this video is meant to help find someones correct truck for jobs that can be done by both but possibly better or cheaper by another which is why my opinion is what it is
Everyone seems to want many different tests but the reality is these guys have 3 trucks that they own and they have access to trucks made available to the Press by manufacturers, they have no say in what is in the Press pool. They don't go to dealers and pick any truck they want. They are dealt a hand and can only test what they are given to choose from. They did obtain another 7.3 Ford recently and did a MPG test with 3:55 and 4:30 but one was with the Tremor package so not exactly the same. They do a very good job with what is available but will never be able to please everyone because of limited access to makes and models.
The F-250 is an xlt I believe. The other ones are higher end trims. I'm not sure about the trailboss, but that rubicon is top trim level. Jeep Gladiators are overpriced for sure.
@@josephwhiskeybeale Yeah -what I was meant was that I don't know what the trailboss is trim wise. I know its an offload package, but I don't know where it sits in the lineup.
For that kind of daily work, 5 times a month or more the 3/4 ton truck is definitely the way to go. If I was pulling 7000lbs once or twice a month or so then maybe a 1/2 would be more livable day to day. In the 1/2 ton truck I'd probably spec it out with the 6.2 or the 3.5 EcoBoost if it was a Ford. Extra power is always a good thing to keep in reserve.
Something I'd really like to see is these tests is acceleration (like 0-60 or maybe 0-30) compared when towing a trailer. You guys have done plenty of drag races before, and of course we know a f150 ecoboost or a ram 1500 hemi are always going to beat a heavy duty, but what is the power & acceleration difference with a trailer. I suspect the heavy/super duty might fair a bit better than it does in the truck-only races, but i'd like to find out. Ideally with a diesel in there, but i'd be happy with these trucks you've been using too. Thanks guys, love your content.
I enjoy that you reviewed the way the trucks handled with cruise control (CC). I personally never use CC when towing, but our trailers are generally twice as heavy as the 7,000lbs weight of this trailer. I love the channel and love the videos. Keep up the amazing work! Cheers from sunny Hollister, CA.
Zach any truck or car will run for 41 years if you keep repairing it The bad thing about your Ford is that you repair more often than others. And that’s the truth you ain’t convincing anybody bro.
Carlos Cortez you certainly don’t know about ford best selling truck for more than 41 consecutive years so all those pepole that buy them would buy another piece of crap huh lol ford For Only Real Drivers
@@carloscortez1442 did you not hear me, I said "all original" the only thing replaced was a fuel pump gasket and I didn't really have to replace it because it didn't leak that much, I just like a clean truck.
I could watch you all everyday. To tell you the truth I've been in the debate for a year of what I want my next truck to be. Heavy duty or med. And to tell you the truth after watching this and what the fuel will cost me I'm going to stick with a gasser and go with 1500. Thanks again guy for everything you do. Keep up the great work
Great idea, can't believe noone thought about this before! :-) I don't use cruise control going up hill like this. Also, the F250 was perfectly suited for this weight. My friend pulls 6k lbs behind F250 6.2 V8 for living and he would never pull it with half ton. Great job, TFL!
@@kidamere2408 6K on a flatbed, weight properly distributed, tongue weight at 10% trailer weight...sure, but you're still going to see a lot of squat. 6600lb toy hauler, heavy on the tongue, high profile, HELL NAH! Not even with a weight distribution hitch.
@@hittman801 my god everyone acts like you need a semi to tow a pallet of pillows , my toy hauler toys just fine but yes i use the weight distr hitch and if you dont drive like a fool your fine, been towing mine for years never an issue
@@kidamere2408 Stay safe, my man! Wish my Sierra 1500 5.3 8spd and my toyhauler were a good combo, but after a 300 mile round trip with the engine screaming at me over mountain passes and not so steep hills, getting bumped in and out of my lane by wind and sheer from other vehicles, it wasn't a safe or comfortable solution. A lot of factors at play, but just because you fall in line with manufacturer's specs, doesn't mean performance is going to be enjoyable or even acceptable. I stepped up to a 2500 cummins and towing is a breeze, but daily driving isn't as enjoyable as in the 1/2 ton. Weigh your needs and options and go with what works for you...
I think if I had to tow 7K lbs regularly the SD is the way to go. If it's once in a while the 1/2 ton would be fine. Also, keep in mind most of us don't have the Rockies to cross on a regular basis.
Yeah that 24 gallon fuel tank on the chev has got to be bigger, i own a chev with that fuel tank and i hate it. Ford offers a 36 gallon on the F150 so as it stands the Ford will be my next truck.
Newton Washinton I love my 2012 F150. Problem is a new Chevy 1500 that’s similarly equipped as an F150 Lariat is about 8-9 grand cheaper. An LT is pretty much the same as an XLT except it offers dual climate control where as in the Ford, I have to step up to a Lariat. Dual climate control is a must cuz the wife and I always fight over the thermostat in my XLT. And I hate the way Ford packages everything right now. Almost any option I select on a base lariat automatically upgrades it to mid lariat, chrome/sport package, etc! 🤬 The only deal breaker on a new Chevy/GMC is that dinky gas tank. It’s even smaller on the diesel 1500. Except give it some time and Titan tanks and TransferFlow will offer an upgrade tank. But those little diesels are slugs. 😑
Obviously the biggest truck will tow the most/best and the smallest truck will tow the least/worst but it's important to pick the right tool for the right job. Midsize is meant for offroading (Gladiator mostly), camping, overlanding and needing a bed for occasional large items like a couch or plywood. 1500s are meant for the average person who occasionally tow a camper, larger boat or haul construction equipment but typically just daily drive. 2500s and up are meant for towing and work. Period. I wouldn't want a midsize to tow a trailer long distance nor would I want a F250 to drive to and from work every day
Great test! Using a modest (7000 lb) trailer weight for the Chevy and Ford is a closer metric for most drivers than towing the maximum. So, this test broadens the perspective. Even knowing the Gladiator has the smallest engine, I was surprised that it got the best mileage. Then again, your prior tests with other Ram products revealed their computed MPG was not as realistic as Chevy & Ford.
The Ranger and Colorado both have lower tow ratings. Would have had to use a small enough trailer to not really distinguish between the 1500 and Super Duty. So few people consider a Ram 2500 relative to Ford or Chevy so it wouldn't be quite useful for most people - and you really shouldn't get a Ram 1500 if you plan on towing a lot, the capability is there when new, but they eat transmissions.
I ordered an f250 xlt tremor with the 7.3, seems like it should be perfect for my needs. Same dealer that y'all got yours from. Fun fact, got mine basically fully loaded for the package and the price difference between yours and mine wasn't much.
Should be nice. I think that 7.3 is going to be a good engine for Ford. Hope FCA has something on the back burner to answer that doesn't involve forced induction coming for the PW.
One of you best test. Seven thousands pounds is a good weight for the average person that might be towing a average size camper at a safe speed up the Hill
R AJ they were showing what the average joe shmo once a month trailer towing person would do. The gladiator is not a truck to pull 7,000 pounds regardless if it says. Someone is going to get hurt with no experience towing but because Jeep said they can they shouldn’t
Howdy from Sacramento! You guys are near my old hood! I lived in Arvada for 5 years and took that route thru the Eisenhower every winter on my way to Breckinridge and all the other resorts off the 70. Loved Colorado!
Great video guys Roman I know you voted for the Chevy but you need to rewind this video and watch it yourself the two of you had smiles that reached across your face when you were driving the F2 50 I think just by us watching the video we can easily see the Ford was the one you enjoyed the most
Horatio Robinson I love your comment I really don’t know sometimes I watch their faces during the videos and then look to see how they vote and I can see a contradiction sometimes I wonder if it’s brand loyalty I know I suffer with it also
@@ripfletching I am not saying you are wrong or anything. But I see how he could go for the chevy and I am surprised that it did so well given the difference in displacement size.
Great video! I personally only use cruise control on level ground if towing, I like the extra control up and down hills without it, but, super interesting to see how they do using it!
I agree. I'm a Ford guy, but I like the idea of the Trail Boss. It comes from the factory how I would set up my truck anyway. All I'd need to add is window tint and rear airbags.
Rickey Cooley my son and I have ‘15 and ‘17 Crewmax 4x4s. Currently negotiating for 3.0 Chevys. Toyota refuses to bring their Diesel engine here. We’re DONE!
GraysdadCal is that the small Diesel? 3.0? I know they have one for the Colorado but couldent remember the size. Toyota used to ( way back in late 70’s. Maybe very early 80’s. Didn’t see many , it was a camper kind of rig on a 1 ton pickup with heavy duty suspension. Ain’t seen one in forever,got my brain spinning now!🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
I will use cruise control on smaller rolling hills, but for steep grades, I'll throw my 09 F-150 in 4th or 3rd to keep my Rpms between 3500-5000 and hold the gear on the way up and down. This keeps my truck right where I want it without all the shifting in cruise or regular drive.
I love that you guys are doing this! Thanks for listening to your viewers and trying to do as many real-world tests as possible. I wish instead of the Gladiator that you guys were doing this with a Colorado diesel because I feel that is the best towing mid-size out there (bias because I own one). Anyway, looking forward to the third episode. Thanks again!
As I’ve recommended for you guys before. Kurt Echo Bluetooth Brake control! Works great and no install. I use it with my Taco. Works better than my built in on my HD.
Once again another great video from you guys. I use cruise control and not only my personal vehicle but my work truck which is an 18-wheeler. I use it fairly often going up hills with a medium sized load. Never really maxed out. I think if you guys incorporate cruise control common it should be from start to finish as opposed to turning it off at different points during the Ike gauntlet. Thank you guys for doing what you do
No matter how you look at a 3/4 ton regular cab is the most universel pick up it does everything a pick needs to do ok to good. But as a travel trailer truck the 4 door wins. A everyday family travel boat truck the 1/2 ton Chevy wins.
Midsize trucks are given that title. They are meant more for towing/ hauling a PWC, snowmobile, or quads to play places, maybe hauling stuff from the hardware store, etc. If I was going to tow heavy loads all the time, I'd be in a half or 3/4 ton truck, depending on my needs. As it is, with my towing requirements, which are few and far between, my Colorado fits the bill.
@@FishFind3000 They truck just fine. They're specially built for those who buy a truck for recreation instead of commercial duty, and wants it to actually fit in their garage
Definitely like the cruise control method on the way up and way down. I also like running the test with no weight distribution hitch. I think it’s a better stock comparison between trucks. Lastly I enjoy having Andre as the truck guru in almost every video he does a great job keeping it fun and informative.
@@simonsays6701 in Germany it would, since we are only allowed to pull 7000 pounds max, no matter what you are pulling with. (that does not apply to gooseneck trailers) So it would be very interesting to see if a bigger engine will consume less fuel then a smaller engine since it does not have work so hard, and if it does, how much less. We had that same effect with big over the road trucks, very interesting to see if it will be the same on a much smaller scale.
Great test video. I do enjoy my adaptive cruise control, in my car, and use it all of the time when not driving in the city. Just makes for a much more easier drive. I'll be downwszing my truck this summer from my papa bear F-250 to a mama bear p/u this summer. Being 76 I'm doing less hauling and lighter loads than I did almost 30 years ago when I bought my F-250.
@@jaymoar3561 '04 6.0 4x4 with 280k of DC metropolitan area towing, hauling, and plowing miles. I have had every make of truck. Others faster others more powerful others more capable, but none as reliable.
I really want to see the new ford gas F350 7.3 vs 6.2 test. They are both available in the 350 and both have the 10 speed. I want to see how much of the new performance is due to more and closer gears and how much is due to the 7.3 having a lower rpm torque curve. It would be super interesting to see, basically how much difference does a newer transmission make? Same goes for the Rams. You can get the same basic truck right now with a 6 speed or an 8 speed. The selfish reason I'm curious is because I have a 19 F350 with the 6.2 6 speed and I feel like with a 10 speed it would probably pull hills without losing speed, but the 6 speed gears are just too far apart.
Since the price points are close, for me it's the Ford and what I'd use it for. I asked my wife and she said the Jeep because "it's so cute". So just depends on the person.
I had an 88 Jeep Comanche Pioneer longbox 4x4 very much like yours which I set up for towing. I occasionally pulled a travel trailer which when loaded for the trip scaled at 4760 lbs for trailer only. The Jeep only scaled out at only 3400 pounds without driver. But included full tank of gas and class III receiver hitch, adjustable hitch, equalizer bars plus the friction sway controller. The trailer had a tongue weight of 640 lbs. (820 with water on board, so I did not tow with water on board.) the Jeep was not happy towing that travel trailer without the equalizer and sway controller hooked up. The teter totter effect was serious. It was not safe to drive because it transferred a significant amount of weight off the front wheels and effected both steering and front end braking. Using the equalizer bars as recommended and instructed, had almost a worse effect. They transferred to much weight to the front axle. Wound up over loading the front axle and tires and wound up with only about 900 pounds on the rear axle. It “looked right” but was not. (All this was done using a platform scale to obtain axle weights.) The hitch had 2 adjustments. Hitch ball height and pitch. The pitch controlled the horizontal angle of the equalizer bars. Essentially the load they carried and transferred to the front of the tow vehicle. (It also had an additional effect of transferring sone of the tongue weight to the trailer axles) That load was also controlled by the number of chain links you used between the bar and the hook on the trailer tongue. My goal was to tune the load to get close to a 50/50 weight distribution on the front and rear axle. When I was done fooling around with the adjustments (it took quite a while, as it was a learning process as well) I achieved the weight balance. But due to the softer rate leaf springs on the rear axle vs the front, the rear end squatted more. There was about a 4.5 inch bumper drop) So the truck had a bit of rear squat when viewed from the side. There was still plenty of suspension travel left in the rear however. (Comanche has a LOT of rear suspension travel!) when all was said and done, I had the load carrying, braking and handling optimized for the package. At the end of the day, it towed the load almost as well as my 1989 F-150 2x4 which is equipped with a class IV 6800 pound tow rating. The 150 has a bigger engine and weighs considerably more. With its canopy and gas, tips the scales at around 4700 lbs.
Here's proof that not using weight distribution hitches while towing maximum weights, is asking for a 'world of woes' especially in the lighter weight / smaller wheelbase trucks. For my hauling needs the Chevy SIlverado is tops, BUT I would use weight those weight distribution bars! Of course this is why they make trucks of different sizes,...if I just HAD to have a Gladiator, I wouldn't tow ANYTHING over 5,000 pounds.
It's nice to see the capabilities of what 55k in truck terms gets you. If towing frequently then the F250 for sure, if occasional towing, mpg and some off roading are in being done then the Silverado. The jeep makes no sense at all especially if you factor in discounts by the manufacturer which I'm sure is zero. I think if you're looking at midsize trucks, pony up at least to a 1500/150 series. Price, mileage is similar. Other capabilities not so much.
J M FCA is offering discounts on the Gladiator. It’s marketed to the same people that weigh wrangler vs 4Runner vs Tacoma. It makes sense if you want a truck and like off roading. I’d get a Gladiator if I didn’t already have an F150 FX4. Which also validates your point. For what a Tacoma TRD Pro costs you can get an F150 SCREW 4x4 that gets better MPG and can tow more.
Ranchers Farmers Construction people need big strong trucks, the F250 is that, most of us need though only need a regular pickup, the Silverado excelled, however neither of these great 2 bigger trucks dimmed my love for the Gladiator, would never purchase one, but I really can’t think of another vehicle I enjoy seeing more out in the road, starting to see the young folks modify them now, I’m loving it, lifts bigger tires lights and graphics. I have found folks either love the Gladiator’s design or hate it, no in between, of the 3 the Silverado would be my choice to buy.
Gladiators look great with big old tires. Automotive shops are going to be happy too, with all the guys running 37s there's going to be so many new axle shafts to install!
It all depends on personal preference and how often you tow. There's no perfect science to it, but... If you're just pulling your camper to the campground in the spring and back home in the fall, then the midsize is fine, just take it easy. If you're towing short distances a few times a month then the half ton. If your towing pretty much daily or cross country then HD.
I would love to put my 2006 ram2500 5.9 Cummins in the mix to see how it compairs, mpg and power. I always think I want a new truck but mine just works so well.
As an owner of one of these trucks, I wouldn’t hesitate to downshift on the downhill... it would be interesting to see how the truck holds against manual downshifts...
TFL thank you for this type of comparison review because this is exactly what I have been waiting for. I have been trying decided between a HD or a 1500 to tow a 7.5K trailer and there is only one safe choice for me for cross country travel HD ! Chevy really only a 24 gal fuel tank it's time to wake up !
Trailer sway is the biggest issue for smaller trucks. I used a Jeep to haul my trailer when I started my lawn care business. Luckly I never had an accident. Now I tow with a half ton. I don't want to be in a Jeep being tossed around by it's own trailer.
I wouldnt get this exact full size but for me the full size segement is the swiss army knife of trucks. They ride great(not to stiff without payload), some can tow near that Hd F250, they have to have "relatively" ok MPG and they fit in most under ground carparks.
I think it'd be interesting if TFL tested the same truck on the IKE twice with same weight and the first time used cruise control and the second time controlled the gear shifts manually and compared fuel & time between the two.
In my experience using cruise control while towingit actually works better than my foot does because it controls how much throttle it gives it better than my heavy foot .but that's on the interstate at over 70 mph
I would like to see a test with a 7,000lb travel trailer. Aero and sway are different with longer trailers. Maybe test different WDH and anti sway systems too.
Hauling 7k horse trailer regularly with a Jeep = new transmission later. The people that do this are usually airlifted to the hospital after their crash or worse.
At 23:11, thank you for posting the stats on the screen all at the same time. Posting multiple stats one truck at a time makes it hard to remember. Much better when they are all on display simultaneously.
Cruise control should be used. I know I use it pretty much all the time I'm on the highway. I'd presume that it's use would be pretty much a given by most drivers.
The lieniancy of cruise control( 2 or 3 mph before it interviens) skews the results. The constant foot throttle is more accurate. If u do switch methods then retest the perfect time. Because the f250 should have had a perfect 8 not 8.2 and it struggled less than the trail boss
Not really. Ride down the road and try to keep the same speed with your foot . Once it drops on the Ike and recovers it’s probably gonna hold the gear. How fast they got to 60 can change the result if they both held it . 1 second is nothing on this test
Hey do you guys think you could pull some camper trailers I've towed both horse trailers and camper trailers and I think a camper is alot more challenging with sway
Matt Stuart Travel trailers on half tons and fifth wheels on HD’s. They’ll find out real quick that a half ton shouldn’t be towing a travel trailer anywhere near it’s rating on weight .
I'd still like to see a mpg test & ike test while towing 3000lbs-3500lbs. Then go upto 10,000lbs towing and test 1/2 ton (gas) vs 3/4 ton (gas) vs 1 ton (diesel). Just ideas...
I always let the cruise control do all the work when towing. Plus when you have grade braking on trucks most of the time it has to be in cruise control to work.
Jeep needs an inline 6 like modernized the 4.0 for all truck/Jeep-like (cringed) duty so it can be efficient, low emissions, bulletproof, and torquey. Plus this test is not comparable, it's about what size/weight class of your needs for what you use it for. The f250 is better suited for this test, the Silverado (my favorite) is better for off-roading and back trails and other uses, but the Jeep is the best off-roader in this group and can climb mountains and carry your outdoor gear. No winner/loser here just choose which one of these rigs that suits your needs depends on what you use it for.
Goldilocks Ep.3 off-road: th-cam.com/video/q_by-85J6yc/w-d-xo.html and Ep.1: th-cam.com/video/hk87LDfpcUg/w-d-xo.html
Tfl killing it with the real world testing! Nobody actually tests towing properly! Props guy!
I definitely would not tow with the jeep!
@R AJ Actually yes people do. They are torture testing these rigs by towing (some of them) max tow weight set trailers up a an extreme grade. People towing will encounter this situation either using the trucks for work or towing up mountain passes. If you want to watch flat towing check out their mpg loops where they are on flat ground. #tfltruck
@R AJ you've obviously never driven around with guys who work. Trucks get pushed hard when your not looking. Anyways, if the trucks can handle the torture test then it's capable in the general public's untrained hands. That's the whole point.
@@JohnDoe-nz6bk I think the Jeep did well towing its maximum weight. It did much better time than the 2020 GM 2500 gasser towing its own max weight and did it with better MPG than 1500 and F250 as well. WDH should have been used on all but the F250.
That being said, I'll be towing 8000 lbs with an F250 and NOT with a Jeep :)
I really enjoyed this test video. I personally use cruise control almost more often than I use my gas pedal here in SoCal. I still drive an old F150
Could you guys do a towing and mpg test of two of the same HD truck, same build and motor. but with different axle ratios? Like 3.73 vs 4.10 “ram” or 3.55 vs 4.30 “ford”. I really want to SEE what difference there is in towing time and fuel consumption. Both with and without a trailer, 0-60 time, and time up the Ike gauntlet 👍🙏
Mike Hunt I second this test. I am looking to buy a new XLT/Lariat F150 that will be my daily/adventure rig. I come from an off-roading background and like high geared vehicles, but have never really cared about fuel economy up until I moved to CA.
I believe they already did the fuel economy test on the 4.30 vs 3.55 Ford, they haven’t done the max load tow test on the 3.55, only on the 4.30 blue F250 where it killed it on the Ike, probably my next power train for sure and I’m currently in a 6.7 Cummins. I think the 4.30 cost them about 2 mpg on an empty highway run.
Yes! This please!
Mike Parlin my 18 F150 with the 5.0 gets 20mpg if I stay 74 or less. At 75 and up it drops to 18. I average about 18.5 city/hwy. 3.55 gears in mine.
I'm also curious about the Powerstrokes with the 3.31 axle. Everything I see has the 3.55, and I'm wondering if there's an appreciable diference in performance or mpg with the taller rear end.
FINALLY a test using the same trailer, I HATE when MotorTrend or C&D tests trucks with a percentage of their max trailer capacity... that doesn't help at all! If I have a 4000 boat and trailer or 6000 pound camper or 8000 pound horse trailer, I want to know how well various trucks can tow THAT trailer, not as a function of their max capability. I'm most surprised by the fuel economy of the Godzilla powered F250, the whole point of that design (other than low maintenance) was MPGs. I'll have to watch the mpg loop tow test to see how it fared. At any rate, nice test guys!
when talking about capability, "Jeep, more for people who live in the city."
Oh the irony lol.
Kane LOL 😂
Lol
jeep the new poser truck
And not fit for man sizes! Great for a college girl going to the beach!
You guys really need to do this with three of the same brand truck. Like Colorado vs Silverado 1500 vs 2500, or ranger vs f150 vs f250. This test is kind of apples and oranges
I mean we've actually seen from the other tests that the segments are actually pretty close to each other. The mid-size trucks reform about the same as each other and the full size 1/2 tons perform about the same. That becomes even more true when you have the same load between all of the vehicles. This test shows that I'd expect, that maxing out a midsize truck is much worse for towing then putting barely any weight on a 3/4 ton or a good working load on a half ton.
@@SSMJ yea but the ranger and the colorado/canyon dont have a engine desgined for a minivan in it unlike the gladiator. i think colorado 3.6 vs the silverado 5.3 would be a good comparison. and you shouldnt be cross shopping a colorado and a heavy duty in my opinion if the truck is consistantly towing 80% or more of a half tons limit or past that limit than get a heavy duty otherwise you dont need it (i would say ranger vs f-150 but the engine options cause to much diffrentiation and youd need to test every power terrain and thats not reasonable)
@@shaunclancey1107 Hate to break it to you, the 3.8 liter was the one designed for the minivan, the 3.6 has been put in either sports cars or the Wrangler lol.
Having driven all three, knowing the powerband and Dyno results for all three, they're incredibly similar, with the Taco being the slowest, the Gladiator being the next, and the Colorado being the fastest and in my opinion the most fun-to-drive.
I'm going to stand by my point that this is a fair comparison, feel free to disagree.
@@SSMJ hate to break it to you but the 3.6 pentastar is in the dodge caravan. yes its also in the v6 "sports cars" but its not the desired engine option for a reason.
second even if you were right those two classes being a budget sports car and a off road dedicated suv are not meant for towing or hauling and neither is the gladiator.
i say i would like to see a comparison that is against 2 trucks that are likely to be cross shopped and are meant to do a trucks job. and this a is a towing comparison video i couldnt care less about your claimed dyno results as i dont care about a 0-60 on a truck meant to do a trucks job.
now i say id like to see a video of colorado vs 1500 because someone who tows there boat or small camper or even consistant 5000lbs towing runs might want to know which fits there needs better while being the best bang for there buck in reliability and on fuel
now i think this is a unfair comparison because the gladiator is so out of its desgined purpose proof being that it doesnt have a trailer brake and that from this test they seemed very worried when it was being tested and its partly due to a suspension thats not made for towing
you are welcome to disagree but this video is meant to help find someones correct truck for jobs that can be done by both but possibly better or cheaper by another which is why my opinion is what it is
Everyone seems to want many different tests but the reality is these guys have 3 trucks that they own and they have access to trucks made available to the Press by manufacturers, they have no say in what is in the Press pool. They don't go to dealers and pick any truck they want. They are dealt a hand and can only test what they are given to choose from. They did obtain another 7.3 Ford recently and did a MPG test with 3:55 and 4:30 but one was with the Tremor package so not exactly the same. They do a very good job with what is available but will never be able to please everyone because of limited access to makes and models.
Thanks TFL. This is exactly the kind of video we need to see. Very informative
The next test you need to do is a Mid-size truck MPG test between the ZR2 diesel and the GMC canyon diesel. I'm torn between which truck I want.
All the same price, Ill take the SuperDuty thanks.
Jeep engineers just unsubscribed.
Everyone says fords prices are outrageous but it was the same price as the other 2 and can do twice the amount of work
Dirty Harry What truck/trim did you get?
The F-250 is an xlt I believe. The other ones are higher end trims. I'm not sure about the trailboss, but that rubicon is top trim level. Jeep Gladiators are overpriced for sure.
Nicholas Desmarais LT would be Chevrolets equivalent of Fords XLT.
@@josephwhiskeybeale Yeah -what I was meant was that I don't know what the trailboss is trim wise. I know its an offload package, but I don't know where it sits in the lineup.
Nicholas Desmarais well the Chevy is an LT Trail Boss so it would compete with a Ford XLT FX4.
If I were shopping for a new truck, I put capability before luxury options. So the F250 over the others for the money.
Wow, that jeep was screaming at the top more then my wife does at me fir tossing dishes in the sink. 😉😁 . Excellent work guys another great video
For that kind of daily work, 5 times a month or more the 3/4 ton truck is definitely the way to go. If I was pulling 7000lbs once or twice a month or so then maybe a 1/2 would be more livable day to day. In the 1/2 ton truck I'd probably spec it out with the 6.2 or the 3.5 EcoBoost if it was a Ford. Extra power is always a good thing to keep in reserve.
Chris Gill agree 100% with you! Couldn’t have been said better
The 5.7 Hemi is a good choice as well.
No such thing as a f150 with a 6.2...
@@myname9856 There was until 2015 but he didn't say Ford with a 6.2.
He is saying the 6.2 chevy rather than 5.3, or, if a ford, then the 3.5.
Really appreciate these guys thank you. You can really tell how much work goes into them. Much appreciated.
721000 subs. Good job Roman. Give Andre a bonus!
I like the cruise control on the way up. I like to know my vehicle can do that. It makes the drive easier when pulling with a family in the car.
I don't use cruise control ever.
@R AJ you are probably one of those that passes someone for 15 min and and slowing down traffic for miles.
Something I'd really like to see is these tests is acceleration (like 0-60 or maybe 0-30) compared when towing a trailer. You guys have done plenty of drag races before, and of course we know a f150 ecoboost or a ram 1500 hemi are always going to beat a heavy duty, but what is the power & acceleration difference with a trailer. I suspect the heavy/super duty might fair a bit better than it does in the truck-only races, but i'd like to find out. Ideally with a diesel in there, but i'd be happy with these trucks you've been using too. Thanks guys, love your content.
Damn I'm worried for the Gladiator already...
You guys are awesome !! You are like the old top gear of TH-cam. Your fun and very informative.. great video!!
I enjoy that you reviewed the way the trucks handled with cruise control (CC). I personally never use CC when towing, but our trailers are generally twice as heavy as the 7,000lbs weight of this trailer. I love the channel and love the videos. Keep up the amazing work! Cheers from sunny Hollister, CA.
Since theyre all the same price Id get the f250 for sure. I tow 2 atvs and that truck would last forever. 🤘👌
Yeah the F250 will last forever if you keep repairing it. Ford lasting forever ha ha You’re Funny!!
@@carloscortez1442 I daily an all original 41 year old f250 and it's not slowing down anytime soon.
Zach any truck or car will run for 41 years if you keep repairing it The bad thing about your Ford is that you repair more often than others. And that’s the truth you ain’t convincing anybody bro.
Carlos Cortez you certainly don’t know about ford best selling truck for more than 41 consecutive years so all those pepole that buy them would buy another piece of crap huh lol
ford For Only Real Drivers
@@carloscortez1442 did you not hear me, I said "all original" the only thing replaced was a fuel pump gasket and I didn't really have to replace it because it didn't leak that much, I just like a clean truck.
I could watch you all everyday. To tell you the truth I've been in the debate for a year of what I want my next truck to be. Heavy duty or med. And to tell you the truth after watching this and what the fuel will cost me I'm going to stick with a gasser and go with 1500. Thanks again guy for everything you do. Keep up the great work
Great idea, can't believe noone thought about this before! :-) I don't use cruise control going up hill like this. Also, the F250 was perfectly suited for this weight. My friend pulls 6k lbs behind F250 6.2 V8 for living and he would never pull it with half ton. Great job, TFL!
Really 6k behind a half ton is nothing
@@kidamere2408 6K on a flatbed, weight properly distributed, tongue weight at 10% trailer weight...sure, but you're still going to see a lot of squat. 6600lb toy hauler, heavy on the tongue, high profile, HELL NAH! Not even with a weight distribution hitch.
@@hittman801 my god everyone acts like you need a semi to tow a pallet of pillows , my toy hauler toys just fine but yes i use the weight distr hitch and if you dont drive like a fool your fine, been towing mine for years never an issue
@@kidamere2408 Stay safe, my man! Wish my Sierra 1500 5.3 8spd and my toyhauler were a good combo, but after a 300 mile round trip with the engine screaming at me over mountain passes and not so steep hills, getting bumped in and out of my lane by wind and sheer from other vehicles, it wasn't a safe or comfortable solution. A lot of factors at play, but just because you fall in line with manufacturer's specs, doesn't mean performance is going to be enjoyable or even acceptable. I stepped up to a 2500 cummins and towing is a breeze, but daily driving isn't as enjoyable as in the 1/2 ton. Weigh your needs and options and go with what works for you...
Great video! Nice to see how the different sizes compare while pulling the same weight. Looking forward to the off road portion!!
I think if I had to tow 7K lbs regularly the SD is the way to go. If it's once in a while the 1/2 ton would be fine. Also, keep in mind most of us don't have the Rockies to cross on a regular basis.
Yeah that 24 gallon fuel tank on the chev has got to be bigger, i own a chev with that fuel tank and i hate it. Ford offers a 36 gallon on the F150 so as it stands the Ford will be my next truck.
You could always get a HD truck and get a 52 gallon tank 😂
We have a 34 or 36 gal tank on our f150 really nice so you don’t have to fill up all the time.
Newton Washinton I love my 2012 F150. Problem is a new Chevy 1500 that’s similarly equipped as an F150 Lariat is about 8-9 grand cheaper. An LT is pretty much the same as an XLT except it offers dual climate control where as in the Ford, I have to step up to a Lariat. Dual climate control is a must cuz the wife and I always fight over the thermostat in my XLT. And I hate the way Ford packages everything right now. Almost any option I select on a base lariat automatically upgrades it to mid lariat, chrome/sport package, etc! 🤬
The only deal breaker on a new Chevy/GMC is that dinky gas tank. It’s even smaller on the diesel 1500. Except give it some time and Titan tanks and TransferFlow will offer an upgrade tank. But those little diesels are slugs. 😑
Only certain one most fords that are crew cab with features have the 23 gallon tan so worse
My f150 has the 36 gallon tank and it gets like 600 miles of range
Love the idea of y'all runnin with cruise control up the Ike. 100% as "fair" As possible
Obviously the biggest truck will tow the most/best and the smallest truck will tow the least/worst but it's important to pick the right tool for the right job.
Midsize is meant for offroading (Gladiator mostly), camping, overlanding and needing a bed for occasional large items like a couch or plywood.
1500s are meant for the average person who occasionally tow a camper, larger boat or haul construction equipment but typically just daily drive.
2500s and up are meant for towing and work. Period.
I wouldn't want a midsize to tow a trailer long distance nor would I want a F250 to drive to and from work every day
Great test! Using a modest (7000 lb) trailer weight for the Chevy and Ford is a closer metric for most drivers than towing the maximum. So, this test broadens the perspective. Even knowing the Gladiator has the smallest engine, I was surprised that it got the best mileage. Then again, your prior tests with other Ram products revealed their computed MPG was not as realistic as Chevy & Ford.
This test would've been awesome using all 3 from the same manufacturer. IE ranger F150 F250. Or Colorado Silverado Silverado HD
The Ranger and Colorado both have lower tow ratings. Would have had to use a small enough trailer to not really distinguish between the 1500 and Super Duty. So few people consider a Ram 2500 relative to Ford or Chevy so it wouldn't be quite useful for most people - and you really shouldn't get a Ram 1500 if you plan on towing a lot, the capability is there when new, but they eat transmissions.
I ordered an f250 xlt tremor with the 7.3, seems like it should be perfect for my needs. Same dealer that y'all got yours from. Fun fact, got mine basically fully loaded for the package and the price difference between yours and mine wasn't much.
Should be nice. I think that 7.3 is going to be a good engine for Ford. Hope FCA has something on the back burner to answer that doesn't involve forced induction coming for the PW.
Nice but why 7.3 you should use 6.2 also
One of you best test. Seven thousands pounds is a good weight for the average person that might be towing a average size camper at a safe speed up the Hill
R AJ they were showing what the average joe shmo once a month trailer towing person would do. The gladiator is not a truck to pull 7,000 pounds regardless if it says. Someone is going to get hurt with no experience towing but because Jeep said they can they shouldn’t
Good test, the load seemed appropriate. the Chevy seemed to rev way to high for my liking.
You guys are my favorite channel
I really liked this video , comparing same weight over three different classes of trucks is great . To show the differences in capability .
The Gladiator was maxed out here, it's the smaller off-road option. Towing was not it's main duty or why someone would buy it anyways.
Howdy from Sacramento! You guys are near my old hood! I lived in Arvada for 5 years and took that route thru the Eisenhower every winter on my way to Breckinridge and all the other resorts off the 70. Loved Colorado!
Truck pricing is out of wack how are these trucks all the same price ?
Trim levels.
@@jghall00 base model fx4. Best value all around
Jeep is always overpriced.
The Jeep sounds like its ready to throw a rod
I laughed to god damn hard at this
Great video guys Roman I know you voted for the Chevy but you need to rewind this video and watch it yourself the two of you had smiles that reached across your face when you were driving the F2 50 I think just by us watching the video we can easily see the Ford was the one you enjoyed the most
So, even so he voted for the chevy, you doubt him, lol.
Horatio Robinson I love your comment I really don’t know sometimes I watch their faces during the videos and then look to see how they vote and I can see a contradiction sometimes I wonder if it’s brand loyalty I know I suffer with it also
@@ripfletching I am not saying you are wrong or anything. But I see how he could go for the chevy and I am surprised that it did so well given the difference in displacement size.
Horatio Robinson yep did good
Great video! I personally only use cruise control on level ground if towing, I like the extra control up and down hills without it, but, super interesting to see how they do using it!
I’m a Toyota guy but that boss is nice🍀
I agree. I'm a Ford guy, but I like the idea of the Trail Boss. It comes from the factory how I would set up my truck anyway. All I'd need to add is window tint and rear airbags.
Looking to sell eith my 14' 4runner or 14' explorer xlt. Explorer is loaded with 30k less miles and worth $5g less.🤣🤷♂️
Northern Rider Offroad my bro, I would let go the Explorer , ska new slippers on 4Runner and live happy. Just a though! 🍀
Rickey Cooley my son and I have ‘15 and ‘17 Crewmax 4x4s. Currently negotiating for 3.0 Chevys. Toyota refuses to bring their Diesel engine here. We’re DONE!
GraysdadCal is that the small Diesel? 3.0? I know they have one for the Colorado but couldent remember the size. Toyota used to ( way back in late 70’s. Maybe very early 80’s. Didn’t see many , it was a camper kind of rig on a 1 ton pickup with heavy duty suspension. Ain’t seen one in forever,got my brain spinning now!🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀🍀
I think this is a great test.
I will use cruise control on smaller rolling hills, but for steep grades, I'll throw my 09 F-150 in 4th or 3rd to keep my Rpms between 3500-5000 and hold the gear on the way up and down. This keeps my truck right where I want it without all the shifting in cruise or regular drive.
I love that you guys are doing this! Thanks for listening to your viewers and trying to do as many real-world tests as possible. I wish instead of the Gladiator that you guys were doing this with a Colorado diesel because I feel that is the best towing mid-size out there (bias because I own one). Anyway, looking forward to the third episode. Thanks again!
OK, its official. I am a Andre fan. You're cool as well Roman. keep up the good work.
That poor v6. Having to rev up to redline all the time.
As I’ve recommended for you guys before.
Kurt Echo Bluetooth Brake control!
Works great and no install. I use it with my Taco. Works better than my built in on my HD.
At 7:40 Andre's face is priceless
90% of the reason I tune in
So true, Almost as good as when the military vehicle began flooding with water at the testing grounds.
I love your music choices for these! Oh, and the editing and scripting isn't half-bad, either. 😉😎
Keep up the good work, you guys!
Once again another great video from you guys. I use cruise control and not only my personal vehicle but my work truck which is an 18-wheeler. I use it fairly often going up hills with a medium sized load. Never really maxed out. I think if you guys incorporate cruise control common it should be from start to finish as opposed to turning it off at different points during the Ike gauntlet. Thank you guys for doing what you do
I like the idea of using cruise control on these runs. The tests are for the trucks. So lets see what the trucks can do.
I love the HD’s... if you’re gonna be a bear, be a grizzly bear 😁
No matter how you look at a 3/4 ton regular cab is the most universel pick up it does everything a pick needs to do ok to good. But as a travel trailer truck the 4 door wins. A everyday family travel boat truck the 1/2 ton Chevy wins.
I like that “lifestyle truck” a euphemism for it can’t haul very well
It can haul very well for the type of vehicle it is though.
Midsize trucks are given that title. They are meant more for towing/ hauling a PWC, snowmobile, or quads to play places, maybe hauling stuff from the hardware store, etc. If I was going to tow heavy loads all the time, I'd be in a half or 3/4 ton truck, depending on my needs. As it is, with my towing requirements, which are few and far between, my Colorado fits the bill.
You mean it can’t “truck” very well.
@@FishFind3000 They truck just fine. They're specially built for those who buy a truck for recreation instead of commercial duty, and wants it to actually fit in their garage
All show no go. 5.3 swap it and have some real fun. "Hipster truck"
Definitely like the cruise control method on the way up and way down. I also like running the test with no weight distribution hitch. I think it’s a better stock comparison between trucks. Lastly I enjoy having Andre as the truck guru in almost every video he does a great job keeping it fun and informative.
Great video!! Would be great if you do the same with diesel bears (same species of bear but diesels)
That needs so much more likes!
A f250 with a 6.7 diesel is way over kill for a 7k trailer
That wouldn’t even be anything close to real world
@@simonsays6701 in Germany it would, since we are only allowed to pull 7000 pounds max, no matter what you are pulling with.
(that does not apply to gooseneck trailers)
So it would be very interesting to see if a bigger engine will consume less fuel then a smaller engine since it does not have work so hard, and if it does, how much less.
We had that same effect with big over the road trucks, very interesting to see if it will be the same on a much smaller scale.
Great test video. I do enjoy my adaptive cruise control, in my car, and use it all of the time when not driving in the city. Just makes for a much more easier drive. I'll be downwszing my truck this summer from my papa bear F-250 to a mama bear p/u this summer. Being 76 I'm doing less hauling and lighter loads than I did almost 30 years ago when I bought my F-250.
I love your Channel! Best entertainment during these lockdown period. Keep it up!
I'll keep my 2500HD, its paid off.
Dirty Harry where did you buy your truck
What year is it?
@@jaymoar3561 '04 6.0 4x4 with 280k of DC metropolitan area towing, hauling, and plowing miles. I have had every make of truck. Others faster others more powerful others more capable, but none as reliable.
Tiersmoke92555 I like the 7.3 early models, not much in power but that thing will run forever.
I really want to see the new ford gas F350 7.3 vs 6.2 test. They are both available in the 350 and both have the 10 speed. I want to see how much of the new performance is due to more and closer gears and how much is due to the 7.3 having a lower rpm torque curve. It would be super interesting to see, basically how much difference does a newer transmission make? Same goes for the Rams. You can get the same basic truck right now with a 6 speed or an 8 speed.
The selfish reason I'm curious is because I have a 19 F350 with the 6.2 6 speed and I feel like with a 10 speed it would probably pull hills without losing speed, but the 6 speed gears are just too far apart.
Since the price points are close, for me it's the Ford and what I'd use it for. I asked my wife and she said the Jeep because "it's so cute". So just depends on the person.
Papa all the way. Especially if there the same price
You mean the 3/4 ton heavy duty truck towed the best?What a shocker.....lol....
Maybe in the future you could talk about turning radius between the trucks. Great video. I’ m always ready for the next.
Godzilla has this in the bag.
Cruise control helps with hill decent as well. My 2012 yukon xl with the 5.3 will downshift and spin the engine up to 3,500 rpm to decrease speed
Goldilocks series is genius
I really enjoy this test and it’s a really good source of information
I had an 88 Jeep Comanche Pioneer longbox 4x4 very much like yours which I set up for towing. I occasionally pulled a travel trailer which when loaded for the trip scaled at 4760 lbs for trailer only. The Jeep only scaled out at only 3400 pounds without driver. But included full tank of gas and class III receiver hitch, adjustable hitch, equalizer bars plus the friction sway controller. The trailer had a tongue weight of 640 lbs. (820 with water on board, so I did not tow with water on board.) the Jeep was not happy towing that travel trailer without the equalizer and sway controller hooked up. The teter totter effect was serious. It was not safe to drive because it transferred a significant amount of weight off the front wheels and effected both steering and front end braking. Using the equalizer bars as recommended and instructed, had almost a worse effect. They transferred to much weight to the front axle. Wound up over loading the front axle and tires and wound up with only about 900 pounds on the rear axle. It “looked right” but was not. (All this was done using a platform scale to obtain axle weights.) The hitch had 2 adjustments. Hitch ball height and pitch. The pitch controlled the horizontal angle of the equalizer bars. Essentially the load they carried and transferred to the front of the tow vehicle. (It also had an additional effect of transferring sone of the tongue weight to the trailer axles) That load was also controlled by the number of chain links you used between the bar and the hook on the trailer tongue. My goal was to tune the load to get close to a 50/50 weight distribution on the front and rear axle. When I was done fooling around with the adjustments (it took quite a while, as it was a learning process as well) I achieved the weight balance. But due to the softer rate leaf springs on the rear axle vs the front, the rear end squatted more. There was about a 4.5 inch bumper drop) So the truck had a bit of rear squat when viewed from the side. There was still plenty of suspension travel left in the rear however. (Comanche has a LOT of rear suspension travel!) when all was said and done, I had the load carrying, braking and handling optimized for the package. At the end of the day, it towed the load almost as well as my 1989 F-150 2x4 which is equipped with a class IV 6800 pound tow rating. The 150 has a bigger engine and weighs considerably more. With its canopy and gas, tips the scales at around 4700 lbs.
Here's proof that not using weight distribution hitches while towing maximum weights, is asking for a 'world of woes' especially in the lighter weight / smaller wheelbase trucks.
For my hauling needs the Chevy SIlverado is tops, BUT I would use weight those weight distribution bars!
Of course this is why they make trucks of different sizes,...if I just HAD to have a Gladiator, I wouldn't tow ANYTHING over 5,000 pounds.
It's nice to see the capabilities of what 55k in truck terms gets you. If towing frequently then the F250 for sure, if occasional towing, mpg and some off roading are in being done then the Silverado. The jeep makes no sense at all especially if you factor in discounts by the manufacturer which I'm sure is zero. I think if you're looking at midsize trucks, pony up at least to a 1500/150 series. Price, mileage is similar. Other capabilities not so much.
J M FCA is offering discounts on the Gladiator. It’s marketed to the same people that weigh wrangler vs 4Runner vs Tacoma. It makes sense if you want a truck and like off roading. I’d get a Gladiator if I didn’t already have an F150 FX4.
Which also validates your point. For what a Tacoma TRD Pro costs you can get an F150 SCREW 4x4 that gets better MPG and can tow more.
It makes perfect sense if you want a convertible off road truck.
Andre loves his exhaust .. and so do I on my 2018 gmc sierra 5.3l OMG I cant wait to tow a trailer with it this year
Ford is a super value. I think I'd swap out for the 3.5 turbo for better elevation performance. Great video as always.
I love y’all!! You guys do the best testing!!!
Love the video, great series so far! 👍 can’t wait for the 3rd video
Very good video, guys!! Yes, more Cruise Control !!!!!
Ranchers Farmers Construction people need big strong trucks, the F250 is that, most of us need though only need a regular pickup, the Silverado excelled, however neither of these great 2 bigger trucks dimmed my love for the Gladiator, would never purchase one, but I really can’t think of another vehicle I enjoy seeing more out in the road, starting to see the young folks modify them now, I’m loving it, lifts bigger tires lights and graphics. I have found folks either love the Gladiator’s design or hate it, no in between, of the 3 the Silverado would be my choice to buy.
Gladiators look great with big old tires. Automotive shops are going to be happy too, with all the guys running 37s there's going to be so many new axle shafts to install!
It all depends on personal preference and how often you tow. There's no perfect science to it, but... If you're just pulling your camper to the campground in the spring and back home in the fall, then the midsize is fine, just take it easy. If you're towing short distances a few times a month then the half ton. If your towing pretty much daily or cross country then HD.
I would love to put my 2006 ram2500 5.9 Cummins in the mix to see how it compairs, mpg and power. I always think I want a new truck but mine just works so well.
As an owner of one of these trucks, I wouldn’t hesitate to downshift on the downhill... it would be interesting to see how the truck holds against manual downshifts...
TFL thank you for this type of comparison review because this is exactly what I have been waiting for. I have been trying decided between a HD or a 1500 to tow a 7.5K trailer and there is only one safe choice for me for cross country travel HD !
Chevy really only a 24 gal fuel tank it's time to wake up !
Trailer sway is the biggest issue for smaller trucks. I used a Jeep to haul my trailer when I started my lawn care business. Luckly I never had an accident. Now I tow with a half ton. I don't want to be in a Jeep being tossed around by it's own trailer.
I wouldnt get this exact full size but for me the full size segement is the swiss army knife of trucks. They ride great(not to stiff without payload), some can tow near that Hd F250, they have to have "relatively" ok MPG and they fit in most under ground carparks.
Anything over 20gals is OK for a 1/2ton truck guys. Like this series a lot!
So glad they used a decent mid-size truck rather than the "boutique" Tacoma as usual.
I think it'd be interesting if TFL tested the same truck on the IKE twice with same weight and the first time used cruise control and the second time controlled the gear shifts manually and compared fuel & time between the two.
In my experience using cruise control while towingit actually works better than my foot does because it controls how much throttle it gives it better than my heavy foot .but that's on the interstate at over 70 mph
I would like to see a test with a 7,000lb travel trailer. Aero and sway are different with longer trailers. Maybe test different WDH and anti sway systems too.
Hauling 7k horse trailer regularly with a Jeep = new transmission later. The people that do this are usually airlifted to the hospital after their crash or worse.
James ES44AC -2 stupid is as stupid does.
@@FishFind3000 Your right.
At 23:11, thank you for posting the stats on the screen all at the same time. Posting multiple stats one truck at a time makes it hard to remember. Much better when they are all on display simultaneously.
Cruise control should be used. I know I use it pretty much all the time I'm on the highway. I'd presume that it's use would be pretty much a given by most drivers.
17:40 that's a great shot of Roman talking!
The lieniancy of cruise control( 2 or 3 mph before it interviens) skews the results. The constant foot throttle is more accurate. If u do switch methods then retest the perfect time. Because the f250 should have had a perfect 8 not 8.2 and it struggled less than the trail boss
Not really. Ride down the road and try to keep the same speed with your foot . Once it drops on the Ike and recovers it’s probably gonna hold the gear. How fast they got to 60 can change the result if they both held it . 1 second is nothing on this test
Hey do you guys think you could pull some camper trailers I've towed both horse trailers and camper trailers and I think a camper is alot more challenging with sway
Matt Stuart Travel trailers on half tons and fifth wheels on HD’s. They’ll find out real quick that a half ton shouldn’t be towing a travel trailer anywhere near it’s rating on weight .
Yet again I agree with Andre.
I'd still like to see a mpg test & ike test while towing 3000lbs-3500lbs. Then go upto 10,000lbs towing and test 1/2 ton (gas) vs 3/4 ton (gas) vs 1 ton (diesel). Just ideas...
When are you going to test the ram 6.4 Hemi 2500 with the 8 speed?
I always let the cruise control do all the work when towing. Plus when you have grade braking on trucks most of the time it has to be in cruise control to work.
I would like to see the same test run with the diesels. Colorado, half ton and 1ton. Like to see the numbers and how they feel.
Jeep needs an inline 6 like modernized the 4.0 for all truck/Jeep-like (cringed) duty so it can be efficient, low emissions, bulletproof, and torquey. Plus this test is not comparable, it's about what size/weight class of your needs for what you use it for. The f250 is better suited for this test, the Silverado (my favorite) is better for off-roading and back trails and other uses, but the Jeep is the best off-roader in this group and can climb mountains and carry your outdoor gear. No winner/loser here just choose which one of these rigs that suits your needs depends on what you use it for.