@@l10industries Most EV buses use LFP batteries. They charge quickly, last a long time, and don't burn. But they are more affected by cold than standard Li-Ion. So yes, the buses may have effectively (because they just can't deliver a charge) dead batteries in cold weather. Would be interesting to know how the base Model 3 Teslas with the LFP batteries are doing in cold weather - probably a better comparison for the buses than most EVs.
@@MikeBrady-js5rq I understand the issue with buses and having LFP batteries, the issue is that most other buses are diesel and are also greatly affected by the cold. Just leaving either a diesel or LFP bus plugged in greatly helps. From what I understand, it's mostly an issue of charging, not discharging. The base model Tesla Model 3 has to heat the battery first before charging at single digit temps. Well it slows down the line at a supercharger, it's not like it stops them from charging at all. I just get miffed by the idea that electric cars just don't work during the winter. They start and stop much easier than gas cars since they can much better modulate power and a much larger percentage are AWD. That and not having to crank and hope your engine will turn over. Or having to wait for the engine to warm up to get heat. Or killing yourself with CO leaving a car running in the garage while it heats up. Or that there is much less wear and tear in the engine while it is heating up.
I don't understand this sentiment except for specific cases. I enjoy cars, got my first EV 6 months ago and love it and wouldn't go back. I expected to have a learning curve with charging and problems and wanted to explore that aspect. I think if most people got into an EV that is much more quiet than most ICE cars, goes 0-60 in less than 5 seconds and didn't have to smell gas fumes, they would like it. I think the reality of what is a problem (despite all these statistics on people only driving x number of miles a day) range anxiety is a real thing - road trips can be cumbersome.
Everyone has the right to have their vehicle preferences. But, "The People" are buying and leasing a lot of EV's. EV's are experiencing year over year sales growth. A great example of this is the sales comparison between Mach E and traditional Mustang. Mache E outsold the traditional Mustang.
If they were cheaper than the fossil cars , than would...The(at least) top ten sellers, the last two years, are ev's. That said: as enthusiast cars,the petrols are,and will be the best.
Tesla 3 = 4000lb curb weight Nissan Versa = 2600 curb weight Nissan Versa has a much lower curb weight and a higher payload. EVs don’t make sense because the they aren’t more efficient. They are in fact doing more work than a conventional car. W=F*D
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Tesla has a battery but the Nissan Versa has no battery
The documentary was well done. I'd watch a longer, part two.
I would say the high prices are obvious for holding down ev adoption.. but used ev prices are low so adoption will increase..
Its been in the teens for weeks here. EVs are not working in the deep cold. The EV busses are sitting doing nothing.
Strange, my EV's working just fine while my gas cars are stuck on the driveway. Cope harder. 😂
@@l10industries Most EV buses use LFP batteries. They charge quickly, last a long time, and don't burn. But they are more affected by cold than standard Li-Ion. So yes, the buses may have effectively (because they just can't deliver a charge) dead batteries in cold weather. Would be interesting to know how the base Model 3 Teslas with the LFP batteries are doing in cold weather - probably a better comparison for the buses than most EVs.
@@l10industries No one is coping. I just stated facts But if you have to act out like that maybe you should seek a therapist.
@@MikeBrady-js5rq I understand the issue with buses and having LFP batteries, the issue is that most other buses are diesel and are also greatly affected by the cold. Just leaving either a diesel or LFP bus plugged in greatly helps. From what I understand, it's mostly an issue of charging, not discharging. The base model Tesla Model 3 has to heat the battery first before charging at single digit temps. Well it slows down the line at a supercharger, it's not like it stops them from charging at all. I just get miffed by the idea that electric cars just don't work during the winter. They start and stop much easier than gas cars since they can much better modulate power and a much larger percentage are AWD. That and not having to crank and hope your engine will turn over. Or having to wait for the engine to warm up to get heat. Or killing yourself with CO leaving a car running in the garage while it heats up. Or that there is much less wear and tear in the engine while it is heating up.
EV's work just fine in the cold, lots of actual users confirm this.
Because the people don't want electric vehicles
I don't understand this sentiment except for specific cases. I enjoy cars, got my first EV 6 months ago and love it and wouldn't go back. I expected to have a learning curve with charging and problems and wanted to explore that aspect. I think if most people got into an EV that is much more quiet than most ICE cars, goes 0-60 in less than 5 seconds and didn't have to smell gas fumes, they would like it. I think the reality of what is a problem (despite all these statistics on people only driving x number of miles a day) range anxiety is a real thing - road trips can be cumbersome.
Everyone has the right to have their vehicle preferences. But, "The People" are buying and leasing a lot of EV's. EV's are experiencing year over year sales growth. A great example of this is the sales comparison between Mach E and traditional Mustang. Mache E outsold the traditional Mustang.
Stupid people dont want what is better for them if they feel threatened by it. Thats what you meant to say
EV's created 4 leftist woke village idiots
@krusher74 you are probably just parroting what your wife's boyfriend told you.
There is no struggle, we just don't want them.
If they were cheaper than the fossil cars , than would...The(at least) top ten sellers, the last two years, are ev's. That said: as enthusiast cars,the petrols are,and will be the best.
Man that's infuriating that many elected and appointed officials would not make themselves available for interviews.
Why the EV decline? Simple answer. Price. When prices come down the adoption rate will skyrocket.
Extremely boring and preachy. If you actually into cars skip this.
With this opinion your missing the majority opinion. and it aint ev.
Tesla 3 = 4000lb curb weight
Nissan Versa = 2600 curb weight
Nissan Versa has a much lower curb weight and a higher payload.
EVs don’t make sense because the they aren’t more efficient. They are in fact doing more work than a conventional car. W=F*D
Tesla has a battery but the Nissan Versa has no battery
You must be the worst coded bot of all time or 12 years old. Evs are much more efficient