You can't compare Despicable Me with Minions... I actually appreciated the fresh premise of a villain adopting children and becoming a good dad... It spoke to me.
@@greenhowie their heart was in it for once, they genuinely wanted to make a quality product, with a compelling story, while still taking plenty of shortcuts on the animation department... But that was fine, because the story and characters, they just worked. 🙂
@@beybladerkid5489 I really liked Megamind, good movie, great characters, excellent story, no critique from me. However, seeing the villain turn good NOT because he was good all along and he was a empathetic and caring guy, but because of these cute obnoxious little monsters, that sneaked into his tiny heart, it spoke to me... He had no shred of sympathy to speak of until his fatherly instincts kicked in. It's movies like these that make me realize how badly I want to be a father someday... It was really well-done in my opinion, and never done before to my knowledge... Illumination is not exactly known for their originality, so gotta give them some credit.
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I hate how the conflict in the first movie is a thing because the koala lied....and what happens in the sequel? The conflict happens because the koala lied again. Nice character development.
That’s Why Buster Moon is the worst character in these movies they expect for us to feel bad for him when he literally lied to a whole group of people and barely has any consequences and he just does the same AGAIN in the second movie I seriously think that the cast of singers in these movies are dumb he lied two times and it isn’t a small lie its a lie which is pretty major to the movie
I’m amazed that Scarlett’s character wanted to still be associated with that koala given his naivete and lying personality. But hey she goes A Star Is Born with the Bono Lion.
The mouse arguably had the most room for development. He could've had a partner that taught him how to be a tolerable person and such. But they cut him
They cut him out of the second movie and same with the actor of Eddie because they both asked for too much money and were probably also busy with other projects
I’m terrified of what Illumination has planned for the Mario movie. I hope Nintendo will be able to convince them to throw a little more money at it, and also make it feel more like the games and less like a feature-length SNL sketch, but I’m not holding my breath.
I am cautiously hopeful. I just wonder how well voice acting can be done for characters that traditionally don’t really make a sound, other than trademark “yoohoo s and it’s a me’s. It just seems like such a concept for a movie that is better presented as a video game. I wanna know how they plan on translating those stories into a feature film
I love how Buster gets away with multiple counts of money laundering and fraud while the asshole wolf is arrested for attempted murder. Not saying he shouldn’t have gotten arrested, but the police were right there. Just grab the tiny-ass koala, jeez.
@@cintronproductions9430 Well in hindsight I'm pretty sure you can let it go for someone who's only worse crime was withholding money and pretending to be someone else illegally compared to some psycho who almost tried to kill someone with full intent. It's a matter of who's worse that gives a pass when this trope comes in play.
To be fair it's not like it's as easy to see someone launder money as it is to see someone attempt murder. Like yeah the cops in the movie were right there but it's not like the koala was laundering money right in front of them and without proof or an accusation how are they going to know?
Sing 2 is the EXACT same plot as the first movie: Buster lies himself into a major production with his ragtag group of amateur singers, and they need to win over a reclusive older performer in order to pull it off. The older performer refuses until the 11th hour when they see the ~passion~ of Buster's troupe, and swoop in to save the day. I mean it's not just superficial, it IS the same plot. Like they wanted a do over on the first one or something. Edit: Oh also how did Johnny's dad get out of prison so fast after not only a major robbery but jailbreak too? There were a lot of plot holes but I think that was the most egregious.
And the pig mum has her conflict over her confidence in the more physical aspects of the show, the gorilla has conflict over his confidence in learning a new skill, Gunther is Gunther, having the time of his life, Elephant girl conflict is related to her shyness.
Dude stop over analyzing the plot holes in this movie, this movie is for kids for crying out loud, don't over analyze it, this is a movie made by illumination, a studio known for its mediocrity, its just a cartoon purely meant for entertainment, don't take it too seriously, this is more of a "turn your brain off and have fun" type movie so of course they won't bother answering those plot holes, its illumination, not disney or pixar, they are the most low brow studio ever, don't expect too much from them lmao, you will be full of disappointments Edit: Admittedly, I was a bit too harsh, I edited my comment to be alot less antagonistic, although my point still stands
@@_neon-xeon_3966 saying, "it's a kids movie" or "it's just a cartoon" is an awful excuse. Anyone should be able to criticize it just for the fact that it's a movie. Take into the spider-verse for example. Technically a "kids" film, and a "cartoon" (these are really meant to be all ages films) yet into the spider-verse was great. Stop bashing people for finding issues with it.
I personally enjoyed it. One thing I think people forget about movies is that they’re supposed to be entertainment first. Doesn’t necessarily need a reason to exist, other than entertaining people. The fact that it did pretty well in box office kinda proves this. Not everything needs to be some groundbreaking film that pushes the envelope and such. While I would agree that people would benefit from really good movies, we also need regular movies that are generic. Those movies around to give brief respite, and allow us to enjoy the regular stuff.
Not too long ago, I needed to watch something stupid, I put on shrek. I have depression, and when that really hits me I need to watch something gruesome/scary/depressing, hunger games fills that (divergent will probably be next). Bambi is a classic, but dead simple film (I like it, just saying). Inside out doesn't have any villains or big conflict or disaster to resolve besides one person's world, yet people love it for that very reason. Many films can do many things, you can't say you like something because of the overarching badass storyline, AND say you like something because it's just a simple, beautiful story, THEN say that a film is bad because it's aimless fun... ummmm, hello? People like that sort of thing? In case it wasn't clear, I agree with you, people need to start judging quality, not the content itself. Otherwise you get horror fans reviewing kids cartoons and saying there's not enough violence. Was Sonic an amazing film? No. But was it good for its target audience? It was fun, funny, engaging and used Sonic to his full potential, so yes. And that second question is all that really matters.
Wait… people forget that movies are supposed to be entertaining? Like, yeah, boring movies are a thing, but 9 times out of 10 they’re not *supposed* to be boring - they just end up that way due to being poorly written, having too much dialogue, or it simply not being the viewer’s kind of movie.
I love the Seth McFarlane mouse He came in, Bullied the elephant, ruined everything, and then it was implied he fucking died with absolutely noone mentioning him again. He is my favorite.
Apparently in some subsections of the Sing Fandom, people adored Seth Macfarlane Mouse. And people were disappointed when no one mentioned him. I remember seeing this movie, and some kid [maybe 10 years old] got mad when he found out the Mouse wasn't in the movie and stormed out of the theater.
@@arnold20139 Yeah he could have at least been mentioned. Ash could have said to Clay Calloway: I guess I know what you go through. It is not sadness that keeps you in this state but guilt. Sadness comes from it. We feel guilty we didn't love others as much as they need it. You know I also lost a friend he was called Mike. We didn't know each other for long it but he helped to fullfill my biggest dream and that made our bond strong. I blamed myself that if I did smth back then maybe I could have saved him. But I couldn't. I had my own problems I was going through break up. He did not communicate his problems to us he played tough guy so we thought he was fine. And then Bear Mafia got him for messing up with some big fish of theirs. But everyone is responsibile for their health and he should have said how he feel about his deeds and emotions instead of running from them. You also had loads of work on your back. Concerts and interwiews. You feel guilty that you didn't spend enough time with her. But she should have taken care of her health. Everyone should take cancer tests regularily. Clay: It's not as simple as it sounds. Sometimes we cannot find good words Ash: I didn't mean to sound cold. My point is that we cannot prevent all tragedies and if those whom we thought close really loved us they would want best for us and they would except our decisions. Only you know what's best for you even if sometimes emotions cloud our judgements. You may not find what you were looking for long but the very act of searching is satistifying enough to move on and and on. And this is where satisfaction comes from reaching for goal not achieving it.
I am only now just realizing that they went “Hey, so we got Seth in the movie, who is he gonna play?” “Eh fuck it just make a g rated Brian griffin he’ll get the jist of it”
Illumination is that coworker who puts the least amount of effort in, and who’s work is always just passable but always seems to be getting more money than the people who actually put real effort into their job.
@@CesarinPillinGaming It really isn't. The characters are really simply and many lack details. The lighting etc. is basic. Yes, the animation is passable for the big screen, but that is just the point: It is all the minimal effort you expect for a movie like this. I mean this is the epitome of capitalism: You have a certain aim and so pay the minimal cost to achieve that aim. So we can hardly blame them.
1:52 And that's what pisses me off about Illumination. They have the talent to make something great and timeless, but they only target to the lowest common denominator by releasing so much mediocrity. Even studios like Sony Animation and Blue Sky (at the time), that don't have the best track record when it comes to quality, can make something fantastic and rewatachble for a long time. I want Illumination to do better, and I'm hoping the Super Mario Movie can break that mold for them.
@@kaiser8659 "Cartoon community", namely adults who are willing to support quality with their money, are a minority. The main target audience for animation and main source of income are families with kids. Doesn't matter if 50k people goes to see a Laika movie 5 times each, if toddlers are more entertained watching Minions, the former will flop.
A joke my friends and I have about Illumination is basically this: "Illumination knows what they are doing, 60% of budget goes to hiring the voice cast, and the other 40% is split in varies quantities for writing and animation"
I honestly enjoyed Sing 2. It was pretty much the Pitch Perfect 2 of Sing. Did we need a sequel? No. But it was enjoyable, and getting U2 was kinda wild and pleasantly fun. There were some scenes where the backgrounds and animation are AMAZING
Have to respect Illumination for still making movies for actual kids and families too. Every other animation studio and the entirety of Disney seem browbeaten into solely appeasing twitter via parading western-stereotypes of various cultures.
@Ana Sevi If Disney really wanted to appeal to certain cultures and minorities on Twitter, they'd actually make full-length movies about it. Instead, they typically advertise what may spark minorities interest by including in ONE short scene something valuable while still being entirely vague about it and / or incorrect. Disney definitely plays both sides in the worst way, I do agree. However, Pixar I argue is the far superior animation company. The problem with illumination is that the content is typically pandering and dumbing down the audience in most of their films. For instance, it's why they market the Minions with lowbrow humor instead of making something engaging for a child, like say any Toy story movie. Studios like Laika and Studio Ghibli also have good movies for families, not necessarily for children, but for anyone to enjoy. Ponyo or even Boxtrolls and Paranorman come to mind as great movies kids and adults alike can enjoy. Movies don't have to be just for a young audience, Pixar has proved many small children enjoy their movies while maintaining that quality seal for any age to enjoy.
I’ll give it credit, the new characters were way more interesting than the main characters. Jimmy Crystal is a spectacular villain. Every time he showed up hating that koala, it was a blast.
I went to see this today and actually really enjoyed the movie. Yes the plot is uhhh well pointless it was still a fun watch and good poppy music and my younger sister really enjoyed too. And I was just enchanted by the incredible animation it was such a beautiful movie! The colours, lighting, backgrounds all of that detail was just amazing! Such talented artists. I’ve always wanted to be an animator and these movies always leave me feeling inspired 🤩
It honestly blow my mind, i doubt at first because well the internet mostly dislike illumination but i actually relly enjoyed it! The actual problem is that buster moon didn't have chatacter development. Other characters pretty good tho.
I loved it too! The animation blew my mind. I agree, the lighting, the details..everything! Characters were great and I understand that Mr. Moon was a liar, but I still enjoyed it. Me too! I am an animator(not the best) and this really inspires me too!❤️
I find it hilarious that minor characters from the previous movie (Johnny's dad and Rosita's husband) had better character development than Moon himself.
Maybe because major character flaws don't disappear overnight? Rosita's husband has never been shown to be abusive or anything towards his wife, both of them obviously were exhausted with the day to day grind, but we had no evidence that Rosita's husband would EVER shit on her dreams or not support her. As for Johnny's dad, all the dad knew is that Johnny was flubbing on him because Johnny was too afraid to tell his dad what was going on. But we know that he loved his son, which is why he was willing to give him a important job to begin with, a job on which their freedom hinged, but when he saw what Johnny really wanted, and saw that he was good at it, he never showed that he wouldn't understand. Buster? He lies when he gets nervous, it is a negative character flaw, and such flaws don't disappear over night, he fell back into his old habits but this time, he didn't just do it for himself, everyone's dreams was hinging on this to work, so he didn't just lie for himself, he lied for the sake of his cast who also were excited to play in the big leagues. And it doesn't overshadow Buster's 'superpower'. The ability to see the talent in the people he casts, willing to push them past their comfort zones because he knows they will grow, adapt and become better for it.
I honestly LOVED this movie. It's Illumination's best in terms of visuals, imo. The hotel/theater/show design blew me away. I'm not jazzed about regular actors being VAs for the sake of popularity, but those casted did a good job. I was really rooting for our main cast from the 1st film. Perfect sequel, instant comfort movie. It doesn't need to be on par with Disney to be a great film.
I agree!! The Sing movies are some of Illuminations best imo, I enjoyed them alot. No immature, dirty jokes (except for 1 in the first movie, but it couldve been worse). They really tried to give these characters their own stories and show their struggles as they try to be better and reach new heights! Idk what the big deal is with this film in some people's eyes lol, they're really fun.
Me and my girlfriend saw Sing 2, I've never seen the first Sing, but she had. I thought it was super fun and really visual beautiful, and my girlfriend thought it was nothing but an improvement from the first. So I don't know if the movie needed to be made or not, all I know is it was a very fantastic movie that we both enjoyed.
The weird thing is that the first two despicable me movies actually had stakes and a great plot for anybody to enjoy, but then they decide to dumb down their movies for no apparent reason other than its eaiser
Refreshing to see some appreciation and respect for Despicable Me 2. I’m sick and tired and of course annoyed with many Illumination haters saying only the first Despicable Me was good and treating the second film the same as the other Illumination films whereas that film at least had some effort and new interesting ideas.
Heard this one before..... XD Anyways, my verdict is that it WAS pointless, but also somewhat entertaining. It was nice to see Buster Moon continue with his "Dream Big Dreams" mantra and everything, so I didn't mind it that much. Didn't expect it to be a big blockbuster, so I enjoyed it. Not anything to remember or forcefully promote/put on a pedestal as the greatest animated movie of all time, so it's a relative opinion.
I am thinking about dropping out of school to focus on my career as a star on TH-cam. I already make a lot of money on TH-cam. School bores me so much. I need more opinions and since I don't have any friends, I gotta ask you, kr
@@AxxLAfriku you should stay from internet, like forever, you are incarnation of shitposting that have gone for too long and for your videos with your cousins makes me think that you do deviant and disturbing things with them.
On on this side. Not going to be the greatest or block buster movie but fun characters, decent animation and can enjoy the songs. It entertaining and doesn't try to be more than that.
I really enjoyed Sing 2, but my biggest issue was the lion's singing voice. If you're gonna have this gruff lion with a gruff voice sing, HAVE IT BE A GRUFF SINGING VOICE.
The biggest thing that annoyed me was they kept saying "you are a bunch of losers from a nowhere town". They were from California. Not even a small town in California, main Hollywood and the theatre is one of the most popular in the country ran by a wealthy heiress.
I personally think Buster's lesson should've been caring about the lives of his coworkers rather than putting their talent out, that's what really threw me off with this movie. If I go to some big shot to prove I have talent and the second the big shot wants to literally kill me because of something petty like making them look bad, I would be more concerned about getting to safety rather than showing my talent.
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My heart actually broke after seeing all of his happiness and positivity instantly disappearing. It was like a ruthless slap in the face as I had the false belief that a modern animated family movie could be such a masterpiece.
Did You really expect anything from Illumination other than Whatever seriously their only good movies are Despicable me 1 and 2 their other movies range from OK to Terrible
Same!! Literally everyone on TikTok was raving about it and giving it positive reviews and then turned around and started making fun of it and I was so confused 😭
"We are illumination, we dont strive for greatness, we strive to make money to make more movies to make more money" "This movie was not necessary" "That is the entire point"
@@supertails0246 but disney has repititive movies and care to overly milk their movies and proceed to buy anything so that they can turn these properties into money printers.
2:30 You have to love how 2 of the 4 icons in the Illumination logo are from the same property. It sort of speaks to a lack of success with their other ones.
@@doesthisIookinfected becuz ppl kept hating on sing 2 idk whats the drama maybe becuz it was too dark for kids cuz my baby sis was scared of mr crstal and i would agree they were wrong making a toxic community
Right? My sister is a big fan of Melanie Martinez and her normal voice and singing voice are so different that if I hadn't seen her speak I would never believe it.
Got to agree with the title, the entire time I was thinking "These are exactly the same plot points and conflicts from the first movie." And while it's still a feel-good movie, which is the only thing I wanted from it, I was hoping to be slightly surprised. I really could see the dog critic from the beginning doing her assesment on Sing 2 : "It's cute, but it won't make it on the big stage." This movie will be forgotten before the next decade.
I kind of feel like that's a much better criticism than the movie didn't need to be made. Because if you're only criticism is that the movie was not necessary, well yeah no movies are necessary. It's a movie.
Saw this last night and I don't remember seeing any fart jokes. So at least the movie has that going for it as it seems illumination was starting to base all it's humor on farts. Admittedly there were a few moments that got a chuckle out of me but I agree it's not the best movie.
Sing 2 is a fabulous movie. Porsha is my favorite character. But not for the reason you might think 😅. Halsey truly brings the character to life in a way the script could not. Her singing and acting is great. Despite Porsha being a spoiled brat, there’s a lot more to her than meets the eye. Her final song: could have been me” is fantastic. I really hope that we get Sing 3. I just want to see more of her.
Porsha's song (or my interpretation of it) was her finally blowing her top and telling off her dad. She instantly became my favorite right then and there.
I can agree that the part was played well, but I just don't understand why I have not seen anyone call out the fact that the main characters randomly deciding to go get her and allow her to be a part of the show made any sense whatsoever. It was rushed, and weird, completely out of place. It is so odd to me that no one is talking about that. It also felt random that she went from spoiled brat calling for her daddy when things did not go her way, to suddenly basically throwing a middle finger to her dad and singing in the show. A lot of things about porsha felt out of nowhere.
I love how people on the Internet think the Sing franchise is either Illumination's best catalog or the worst thing since Santa Claus conquers the martians.
I thought the last act was super fun and I really loved the visuals of their performance. I half expected it to focus more on the backstage stuff with the bad wolf guy rather than the actual show that they had been hyping up this entire time.(think like high school musical) but I was pleasantly surprised that they actually showed the show the whole movie led up to. Was really surprised that the movie made the wolf bad guy like an ACTUAL murderer but I appreciate the tension rather than just "oh no he's gonna ruin the show". The first and second acts were boring and I didn't like them very much. Portia is incredibly irritating. Overall, really predictable, but the characters and visuals make up for the lack of story in a lot of ways. Solid 6/10
@@dangerousmaster66 Almost every sequel is a garbage fire but you changed my opinion, SLOP was okay because when I watched it I was actually hyped, but when I saw the actual movie I was very dissatisfied
Sing 2 was a safe movie that had better character work than the first, 2 thirds of the movie was decent, nothing amazing or inspiring but real talk the final act showing the built up performance was the best, I really enjoyed the energy of it, gorilla dad and his bros going ham and go to peoples elbow a poor goon and the scene cutting just before it could follow through had me laughing quite a bit, its sad that only THIS PART in the last 20-30 minuets of the movie -or so idk- was the good part to me, but thats just me.
I genuinely enjoy the Sing movies. In my opinion, it's all about the spectacle of performing and the plot is just a minor bonus. There doesn't need to be a dynamic storyline when the point is to come and enjoy the music with very pleasing visuals. People may not enjoy that, but I do. It brings me back to my childhood where I'd imagine characters singing and dancing to songs I'd hear on the radio. This is a more glorified version of a child's musical imagination and I am verily grateful for it!
I disagree but i can understand and respect your opinion. Specifically about movie one (because i have actually watched that one) To me if it was about the music and visuals, they underused it (a lot). Many of the characters were ugly and/or reused character models. In fact the movie isnt really very outstanding visually at all. And in the music department, if i remember right, all of the songs were covers. Finally, i do not remember any creative visuals. And yes, they do have a target audience in mind and a target goal: money. However, I do not think art should be soley for money with little regard for quality. I think that they can still make good stuff with a goal of money, they did not need an outstanding plot or anything but more effort in visuals and music would have changed my mind somewhat.
Agreed. It's not a bad movie at all. I genuinely liked it. It had a decent plot. Has character development. More than can be said about most kids' movies.
So even as a non-furry, there is a _very clear_ trend going on bc now yall have got: - Loona. - Roxanne. - Juno AND Legoshi. - The wolf from The Bad Guys. - and now Portia. Somebody out there in media promotion/marketing REALLY likes their anthro wolves 😂
Don't forget the OG, Lily from Alpha and Omega. It's basically an win-win for entertainment companies nowadays. You get appraisal from both the "what a cute wolf" crowd who like wolves, and the furries who.... yeah we don't speak about what they think of these wolves. That said, I'm down for it. Porsha is a certified qt and I like that they actually gave her character development in the film.. just a shame it wasn't made by a superior studio who would've tackled her character 1000x better.
It's not a trend... the media to which those wolf characters belong have numerous OTHER anthro animal species too, it's just that the canine/wolf characters are always the most popular and receive the most attention from people bc *you know why* :v To this day, I still don't understand why the furry fandom is so obsessed with wolves, of all animals.
@@AdaTheWatcher everyone's OC does seem to be either wolves, foxes or wolf-like dogs. Cat OCs are a bit overdone too. Maybe it's just the default, accessibly cute animals with plausible deniability of being cool?
Illumination makes movies that are just simple and good for reruns and rewatch-ability when you want pretty mindless content. It’s like dried sugary dried fruits (or chocolate covered) makes you feel better about eating it then “true” junk food, it’s not totally terrible but definitely not great and fulfilling
I honestly enjoyed the movie, the songs were honestly fantastic, I wasn’t expecting a masterpiece, but I got an altogether fun movie with some funny gags, great voice acting, and great music. A solid 8/10 for me.
i very liked the movie, but can't say any of the songs really struck me like most of the ones from first Sing did; i think my favorite song in this movie though was Wolfgirl's. while i don't usually like characters like hers- or how she was introduced, she got a bit better toward the end :>
Personally, I find Sing 2 an overall improvement from the first, even though I can see some repeated plot beats. I love Portia (platonically! I’m bi but that doesn’t always mean I have the hots for a character in a romantic way!) and I wish we got more time to flesh (fur?) her out. I liked how the first didn’t need a villain to have a conflict, and how in this, Jimmy Crystal didn’t become the villain until his breaking point in the second half.
@@Imperviousdragon Aww you're welcome, I love your avatar! :D That's a fair point, Crystal does say that right off the bat so it's possible he might've just gotten even angrier at Moon.
Everything in this movie was genius. I went in to see this movie with "meh" expectations since I thought the first one was just okay. I am so glad to be proven wrong. I'm not ashamed to admit that this is one of my new favorite animated films. I loved Johnny's arc in particular - Taron played him PERFECTLY, his emotions were so real. The conflict between him and Klaus and the immediate bond between him and Nooshy was so inspiring, and to see him flourishingly rise above Klaus's abuse in "Sky Full Of Stars"... I was bouncing in my seat and cheering him on. Of course, everyone else's stories were played out phenomenally, too. And the songs, oh my gosh the SONGS! I resonated with every single song in this film and every song fit perfectly with what was going on and they fit the situations perfectly. But generally speaking, to have such a mix of current and less current music woven together so perfectly is beautiful. I'm not a U2 fan because I was never really exposed to their music but that does not lessen the impact of Clay Calloway's (Bono) storyline. His connection with Ash got me misty-eyed a few times, and whenever one of his songs was sung in the movie it was always acoustic and slow and solemn, which added so much to how revered his character was in the universe, and felt like a love letter to Bono really. I also really loved how each character is an animal that fits their emotions. Johnny is a gorilla who is trying to find himself and eventually lives up to the confidence his father wants him to have. Meena is an awkward elephant who’s socially awkward. Buster is a cute unintimidating koala while Crystal is a viscous wolf. Finally, Clay is a lion who’s intimidating at times, but is really soft on the inside. Also: props to illumination for giving us a gutsy villain who's willing to do whatever he thinks it takes to get his way. I was pleasantly surprised to see how dark Mr. Crystal was, but that could be just me (I love older darker kids movies like An American Tail or The Black Cauldron and you just don't see movies leaning into that side nowadays). Every character got just enough screen time and story to make me care about them and as a theater kid, I appreciate how we see the strings attached to the final production - wires, harnesses, etc. that really make the show seem applicable to real life. TLDR for this passionate rant: I freaking loved this movie. Best animated film of the year in my opinion and I'll be buying it on DVD as soon as it's available. An amazing cast with a well-thought-out storyline and stunning visuals and music choices. My deepest admiration to Garth Jennings for this masterpiece of a film.
I don’t really care for Illumination movies but I absolutely loved Sing and Sing 2. Sing 2 probably more so. I just really love the characters and the song usage. I also felt like the animation in Sing 2 was really great. There were moments that blew me away.
Something I loved about Sing 2 its the main villain, is there even a main villain Sing 1? Mike doesnt really count for me, hes just the rude, cheeky and thinks hes the best but even I dont think he was a villain.
I enjoyed the second movie more than the first one. I liked the new characters, especially Porsha. She actually had character development instead of Buster lol.
Tbh I didn't think the premise was all that dumb, I liked it. It makes sense, you want your cast of people to be seen as something more than just a local acting troupe. And you want important performance people to see that as well. But I guess I could see why you thought it was pointless since he worked hard for his theatre and just said, "nah I wanna preform on the big stage" but I mean he never said they were never coming back to the theatre, just that he wants his troupe to be seen and recognized, and you do that either through reviews, advertising, traveling performances, etc. Also I think I didn't dislike too much about sing one and two because there just fun, like the characters are fun, and they don't really need to be more than that for these movies. They captivate you enough to enjoy, but not to where your like "omg that's me" and like have a deep connection. Edit - just so y'all know I like saberspark, this ain't a diss, I liked the video as well just disagreed with some stuff is all :)
Introducing a wolf girl and putting her in a skin tight jumpsuit with wide hips and a cute Jersey accent? …yeah, Illumination knew what they were doing.
My verdict: The animation was not bad, the story was passable, just this movie and this entire company is just "That'll do" in my opinion, like nothing amazing since Despicable Me 1 But honestly, just passable, just one of those movies where Mom puts it on and says, "I'll put Sing 2 on if it'll shut you up"
This is basically what I thought too well except they basically reused the first movie’s plot and changed it a little but they did add something new here and now
I thought the movie was quite good. The overall plot was a bit shallow, but I enjoyed the screenplay for the most part. But the thing Illumination always blows away is the visuals. The sets look amazing. I remember thinking the same thing even about Minions
I like the movie because it kind of reminds me as an artist that I always want to see how far my talents could take me and how far I can go with them. Isn't it natural for talented people to see how far they can go and always striving for the stars just to do what they love?
That's pretty much the point that Saberspark missed in the video. Buster and the gang were of course happy that they had their theater and show but dreaming also of how great it would be to be able to take it on tour on even bigger stages and to reach and entertain more people even.
@@MarcMarioMaster We all want to see how far we can go with our talents and skill. It's only natural. I have never met anyone who says that they made to one point but never dream of seeing how much further they can go. The 1st movie was all about getting recognized while the 2nd movie shows on how far they can go with their talents. I mean, look at all the artists on TH-cam. They all have a hard time getting recognized but once they got recognized, they wanted to see how far they can go.
It's pretty common in musicals. A lot of movies use different voice actors and singers for the same character. We usually overlook it because the entire tone shifts. The thing with this movie is the lion talks like Nick Nolte and sings like Bono. It's jarring.
I watched this movie on my birthday. It was a surprise. And I was greatly impressed. Though the finale to the show... Was so bad. It doesn't make sense, and the old, gruff lion that hasn't sang in FIFTEEN Y E A R S sounds like he's in his 20s with a very angelic voice. Wtf.
@@octoA. who the hell wouldn't? Furries are just weirdos trying to get into kid's pants and support trash naughty sites like e621, if I ever see one irl I'm getting a shotgun.
Can't wait for Sing 3. The cinematic universe is building up with alot of promise. The plots get denser by the installment. The depth is of a KUBRICK level and so is the symbolism.
If it's gonna be the finale to the Sing franchise, I wonder if all cast members of the first and second movies will join together to reprise their roles?
@@landontk7696 Sing 3 is most likely going to be confirmed and just look at the box office and it just made 300m in around 2 months snd it made way more then encanto too
Yes yes, i've been waiting for your review on Sing 2 Saberspark and the wait has been worth it!, anyway while i really enjoyed Sing 2 i must admit that it sadly wasn't as good as the first film but it was still a fun one to watch! i especially like Porsha she had such a beautiful singing voice i mean her acting wasn't too great but her singing was first rate! and i admit she was kinda hot in fact the second i first saw her in the trailers i was like "New furry waifu alert" lol...but anyway like i said despite having it's ups and downs like all movies do, i overall enjoyed Sing 2!!!
I don’t like the fact that they try to make us believe the lion character was secluded for years and years and did not want to interact with anyone at all, but then all of a sudden pretty much one interaction where buster (I think it’s him who says it) says “but is this what your wife would’ve wanted” and then the porcupine character just spends a night with him off camera suddenly makes him change his mind and realize he needs to join them is just so dumb. It’s such a cheap way to try and get the crowd invested emotionally in the character by having a sad backstory only for them to have no clue how to resolve the conflict and do it in the worst way possible basically.
We didn't need that... but I'm still glad we did. It was fun and since I liked the first one, I was glad to get more... And no, I don't want to see the "Seth McFarlane mouse" back. He was the worst and I didn't even find him that fun. He got what was coming to him.
What's the deal with this John guy anyway? Not everyone is a fan of Sing 2 I understand that. This John guy shouldn't be toxic and threatening towards someone like Saberspark. As a fan of the movie I didn't like Saber's review of it as well. And I'm a fan of Saber and his content but any review of his that does on a movie he didn't like and it's ones I like, I might hate the review but I respect his opinions on what the film is. But you can't threating someone like that if he or she didn't like the film. John needs to grow up and start to have respect and stop being a toxic baby. Otherwise he'll get picked on throughout his life.
3rd one should be about their group becoming professionals and starting their own journeys. And the Koala guy being very attached to them so it will be hard for him to let them go.
Honestly, I went and watched it immediately after I saw the video title, and I really enjoyed the movie! It's not complicated, and it's really easy to watch. Good family film. Great soundtrack.
Just watched this movie for the first time today, and I'm not going to lie. Clay's story almost made me cry, and I'm not even one to get emotional, at least for movies. Also, Porsha and Nooshy are definitely furry bait, especially Porsha. I'd be surprised if that wasn't at least part of the intention. Porsha is actually the character in this movie who I have the most mixed opinions about. She is annoying for most of the movie, but has a complete turnaround in the climax during the show. I love how she just doesn't care, and goes against her father. Also, Saber not only knows the existence of _that_ website, but has willingly gone to it? Not good for their "I'm not a furry" argument. I just know of it because of The Click, but I've never been there.
I'm not here tryna change ur opinion but there's a video on youtube called "i hate sing" and I feel like it does a good job covering things wrong with the first movie.
I loved these, probably because of the performances. I think it's so sweet how the lion obviously loved every aspect of his lat wife, he kept her wheelchair, he wanted her in every phase she went through. The whole cast basically were following the message of success being relative. I loved it entirely, it was thoroughly conceived message. Even if you tried your best, sometimes it won't be good enough for those you idolize.
"that wolf girl was uh interesting she seemed to be pretty popular already a friend and i checked a certain website if you know, you know but like to see how popular she was and hoooboy" No. N o. N O *SABER NO.*
I disagree, I loved these movies. It’s about art and dreams and what will you do to actually get to your goal. You can be pure and innocent and have the best intentions but still lie to get what you want. In that industry, you have to prove yourself again and again not only to others who look down on you but also prove to yourself. Each character has their own struggles and strengths. And they’re animals to make them more relatable than humans can. Just cuz it’s not like zootopia or beastars, animal characters have always been used to make them more relatable to people. Like Winnie the pooh or any kids show with animals. Or bed time stories. Idk, I enjoy both complex and lore driven stories but also love simplistic fun stories with a few lessons and emotional moments. Thank you for the video as always ^^/
@@aqua2poweros699 I'm pretty sure it could if taken 5 years to make and I'm pretty sure the celebrities delayed the movie because they're really busy and have things to do
I realy liked sing 2. And Yeah i liked sing 1. The song are very good, the coreography is amazing, i loved the animations being soo colerfull and the story is basic butt i dind't realy hope an amazing story
Yeah that’s how I approached sing 2, I found sing 1 to be pretty decent but sing 2 took that concept and made it a lot more enjoyable imo. Sure we were hitting similar plot beats with the whole lying incident but ion if I had really cared too much about it.
I adored Sing 2 from start to finish! I watched Johnny's song like 20 times. It truly is a masterful story about following your passions, and the songs hit just right, I felt like I can really sympathize with the characters, the villains are just the right amount of evil... And we get such a long, juicy feature of what the cast had worked on all movie. I love when a film lets us be a part of the dream fulfillment that the characters have been working towards. I could go on! Can't say enough great things about this movie
You know what's hilarious? Yes Sing 2 is not great, but I somehow enjoyed this movie way more than Hotel Transylvania 4, this Illumination sequel movie somehow tackled mature themes better and is straight up more mature and better than Hotel Transylvania 4, which sounds weird because the Hotel Transylvania franchise is pretty well regarded meanwhile Illumination movies are a laughing stock, I cannot believe it but I far prefer this movie, it somehow is not as childish and stupid and you can really tell they put way more effort this time around, like I really had a good time with this, yes the story is basically the same, the runtime is too short, preventing the characters to have time to be more fleshed out, there are alot of unfunny/corny/cliche scenes here and there, etc... But you can really tell they tried with this one
@@marcogomez5119 I still don't understand how BP's "how you like that" fit into that movie at all tbh. If you need a song for clout at least make it fit.
My problems with Sing 2: • A lot of the scenes are predictable. • The opening sequence was basically a ripoff of the one on Zootopia/ Zootropolis. • The characters are either uninteresting, unlikable, or both. • There is a lack of character development. • One of the new characters is a stereotypical daddy’s girl of someone who has power. • The villain defeat was mediocre at best. • The subplots were forced in. • There is little to no quiet moments. • There’s a song number like every two minutes. • The scene were the lizard lost her eye made me cringe. Positives: • Some of the scenes were funny and/or enjoyable. • At least the porcupine and lion had character development. • The cover of “Girl is on Fire” was good.
Johnny had character development too though because he stood up for himself against the dance teacher and Porscha in a way stood up to her dad in her song scene
This opinion is just a disgusting and you need to fix your humor and stop watching TikTok and hey I don't blame you but most characters development were good actually and not to mention funny and not cringe and yeah it was pretty predictable but still a good movie for me
Some scenes of sing 2 might be a mess. But it had such an important message about how not to give up on life during stressful times and how to deal with depression, especially when you lose somebody you love. I think Saberspark is not seeing the big picture.
I find it very fitting that Seth MacFarlane was in the cast of Sing as both he and this studio have been lowering the bar for animation, just for different demographics
Bring back the Seth McFarlane mouse
ok
Seth MacFarlane was too Good for the Cast of Betas and I am just assuming the bears ate him or something
Sorry but i tink he is dead dead
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 I like Seth MacFarlane mainly because of Family Guy.
Hey Peter
Illumination forgot your character
You can't compare Despicable Me with Minions... I actually appreciated the fresh premise of a villain adopting children and becoming a good dad... It spoke to me.
@Sheldon Propaganda for what?
@@greenhowie
*The only time they cared about making something special
Simply just take out the minions and you have a great movie. I recommend Megamind if you haven't seen it.
@@greenhowie their heart was in it for once, they genuinely wanted to make a quality product, with a compelling story, while still taking plenty of shortcuts on the animation department... But that was fine, because the story and characters, they just worked. 🙂
@@beybladerkid5489 I really liked Megamind, good movie, great characters, excellent story, no critique from me.
However, seeing the villain turn good NOT because he was good all along and he was a empathetic and caring guy, but because of these cute obnoxious little monsters, that sneaked into his tiny heart, it spoke to me... He had no shred of sympathy to speak of until his fatherly instincts kicked in.
It's movies like these that make me realize how badly I want to be a father someday... It was really well-done in my opinion, and never done before to my knowledge... Illumination is not exactly known for their originality, so gotta give them some credit.
I hate how the conflict in the first movie is a thing because the koala lied....and what happens in the sequel? The conflict happens because the koala lied again. Nice character development.
Just because this is an Illumination flick doesn’t give it the excuse to constantly tread old grounds.
I fucking called it!
That’s Why Buster Moon is the worst character in these movies they expect for us to feel bad for him when he literally lied to a whole group of people and barely has any consequences and he just does the same AGAIN in the second movie I seriously think that the cast of singers in these movies are dumb he lied two times and it isn’t a small lie its a lie which is pretty major to the movie
I’m amazed that Scarlett’s character wanted to still be associated with that koala given his naivete and lying personality. But hey she goes A Star Is Born with the Bono Lion.
Sometimes you have to be hit twice with a stick to know it's coming a third time.
The mouse arguably had the most room for development. He could've had a partner that taught him how to be a tolerable person and such. But they cut him
@MorrowStride after that, mouse goes through AA, finds Jesus, relapses, and kills a man
They cut him out of the second movie and same with the actor of Eddie because they both asked for too much money and were probably also busy with other projects
@@Imperviousdragon I thought it was because they knew character was such a jerk. I'm glad they cut him tbh
@@alyssabullock6421 Nah and he was supposed to be in it but kinda wished if he changed or not
@@Imperviousdragon seth mcfarlene asking for too much money? lol guy is loaded
This movie can be easly described in 3 words:
Pointless but fun
Yep and now i can't wait to see "everything wrong with Sing 2 in musical minutes or less"
Me who like the movie:why it's hated?
Three letters/numbers as well:
R34
That’s exactly what I thought about after watching it
@@JoMcD21 E621 would be more accurate.
I’m terrified of what Illumination has planned for the Mario movie. I hope Nintendo will be able to convince them to throw a little more money at it, and also make it feel more like the games and less like a feature-length SNL sketch, but I’m not holding my breath.
I bet it'll be 95% SNL sketch and 5% game, like a quick nod to the source material when the movie's nearly done shitting on it.
I am cautiously hopeful. I just wonder how well voice acting can be done for characters that traditionally don’t really make a sound, other than trademark “yoohoo s and it’s a me’s. It just seems like such a concept for a movie that is better presented as a video game. I wanna know how they plan on translating those stories into a feature film
Get ready for Chris Pratt Mario and Jack black Bowser lol.
Im 100% sure its just gonna be a joke movie or smth lol- the mario movie
I am legitimately scared What they are gonna do to Toad seriously they are gonna turn the Toad species into 2.0 Minions
I love how Buster gets away with multiple counts of money laundering and fraud while the asshole wolf is arrested for attempted murder. Not saying he shouldn’t have gotten arrested, but the police were right there. Just grab the tiny-ass koala, jeez.
Protagonist-centered morality, everyone.
@@cintronproductions9430 Well in hindsight I'm pretty sure you can let it go for someone who's only worse crime was withholding money and pretending to be someone else illegally compared to some psycho who almost tried to kill someone with full intent. It's a matter of who's worse that gives a pass when this trope comes in play.
@@wwehulk8798 yeah, I agree. I think he just meant the Buster shouldn’t have gotten away with his actions.
@@arcanonn True my take was more of a pick your poison
To be fair it's not like it's as easy to see someone launder money as it is to see someone attempt murder. Like yeah the cops in the movie were right there but it's not like the koala was laundering money right in front of them and without proof or an accusation how are they going to know?
Sing 2 is the EXACT same plot as the first movie: Buster lies himself into a major production with his ragtag group of amateur singers, and they need to win over a reclusive older performer in order to pull it off. The older performer refuses until the 11th hour when they see the ~passion~ of Buster's troupe, and swoop in to save the day.
I mean it's not just superficial, it IS the same plot. Like they wanted a do over on the first one or something.
Edit: Oh also how did Johnny's dad get out of prison so fast after not only a major robbery but jailbreak too? There were a lot of plot holes but I think that was the most egregious.
And the pig mum has her conflict over her confidence in the more physical aspects of the show, the gorilla has conflict over his confidence in learning a new skill, Gunther is Gunther, having the time of his life, Elephant girl conflict is related to her shyness.
I think it got played off as bail
Dude stop over analyzing the plot holes in this movie, this movie is for kids for crying out loud, don't over analyze it, this is a movie made by illumination, a studio known for its mediocrity, its just a cartoon purely meant for entertainment, don't take it too seriously, this is more of a "turn your brain off and have fun" type movie so of course they won't bother answering those plot holes, its illumination, not disney or pixar, they are the most low brow studio ever, don't expect too much from them lmao, you will be full of disappointments
Edit: Admittedly, I was a bit too harsh, I edited my comment to be alot less antagonistic, although my point still stands
I think it’s implied in the film that Johnny’s dad and his gang were just doing community service. They’re still serving their sentence.
@@_neon-xeon_3966 saying, "it's a kids movie" or "it's just a cartoon" is an awful excuse. Anyone should be able to criticize it just for the fact that it's a movie. Take into the spider-verse for example. Technically a "kids" film, and a "cartoon" (these are really meant to be all ages films) yet into the spider-verse was great. Stop bashing people for finding issues with it.
I personally enjoyed it. One thing I think people forget about movies is that they’re supposed to be entertainment first. Doesn’t necessarily need a reason to exist, other than entertaining people. The fact that it did pretty well in box office kinda proves this. Not everything needs to be some groundbreaking film that pushes the envelope and such.
While I would agree that people would benefit from really good movies, we also need regular movies that are generic. Those movies around to give brief respite, and allow us to enjoy the regular stuff.
Not too long ago, I needed to watch something stupid, I put on shrek. I have depression, and when that really hits me I need to watch something gruesome/scary/depressing, hunger games fills that (divergent will probably be next).
Bambi is a classic, but dead simple film (I like it, just saying). Inside out doesn't have any villains or big conflict or disaster to resolve besides one person's world, yet people love it for that very reason.
Many films can do many things, you can't say you like something because of the overarching badass storyline, AND say you like something because it's just a simple, beautiful story, THEN say that a film is bad because it's aimless fun... ummmm, hello? People like that sort of thing?
In case it wasn't clear, I agree with you, people need to start judging quality, not the content itself. Otherwise you get horror fans reviewing kids cartoons and saying there's not enough violence. Was Sonic an amazing film? No. But was it good for its target audience? It was fun, funny, engaging and used Sonic to his full potential, so yes. And that second question is all that really matters.
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on point
Agreed
Wait… people forget that movies are supposed to be entertaining? Like, yeah, boring movies are a thing, but 9 times out of 10 they’re not *supposed* to be boring - they just end up that way due to being poorly written, having too much dialogue, or it simply not being the viewer’s kind of movie.
I love the Seth McFarlane mouse
He came in, Bullied the elephant, ruined everything, and then it was implied he fucking died with absolutely noone mentioning him again.
He is my favorite.
Apparently in some subsections of the Sing Fandom, people adored Seth Macfarlane Mouse.
And people were disappointed when no one mentioned him. I remember seeing this movie, and some kid [maybe 10 years old] got mad when he found out the Mouse wasn't in the movie and stormed out of the theater.
@@arnold20139 Yeah he could have at least been mentioned. Ash could have said to Clay Calloway: I guess I know what you go through. It is not sadness that keeps you in this state but guilt. Sadness comes from it. We feel guilty we didn't love others as much as they need it. You know I also lost a friend he was called Mike. We didn't know each other for long it but he helped to fullfill my biggest dream and that made our bond strong. I blamed myself that if I did smth back then maybe I could have saved him. But I couldn't. I had my own problems I was going through break up. He did not communicate his problems to us he played tough guy so we thought he was fine. And then Bear Mafia got him for messing up with some big fish of theirs. But everyone is responsibile for their health and he should have said how he feel about his deeds and emotions instead of running from them. You also had loads of work on your back. Concerts and interwiews. You feel guilty that you didn't spend enough time with her. But she should have taken care of her health. Everyone should take cancer tests regularily.
Clay: It's not as simple as it sounds. Sometimes we cannot find good words
Ash: I didn't mean to sound cold. My point is that we cannot prevent all tragedies and if those whom we thought close really loved us they would want best for us and they would except our decisions. Only you know what's best for you even if sometimes emotions cloud our judgements. You may not find what you were looking for long but the very act of searching is satistifying enough to move on and and on. And this is where satisfaction comes from reaching for goal not achieving it.
I am only now just realizing that they went
“Hey, so we got Seth in the movie, who is he gonna play?”
“Eh fuck it just make a g rated Brian griffin he’ll get the jist of it”
Sing Thriller: (J. Jonah Jameson laughter)
Illumination is that coworker who puts the least amount of effort in, and who’s work is always just passable but always seems to be getting more money than the people who actually put real effort into their job.
That sounds like some TH-camrs lmao
Disagree. The animation is top notch. Story in the other hand...
It's easy to make more money than others when you spend so little.
@@CesarinPillinGaming It really isn't. The characters are really simply and many lack details. The lighting etc. is basic. Yes, the animation is passable for the big screen, but that is just the point: It is all the minimal effort you expect for a movie like this.
I mean this is the epitome of capitalism: You have a certain aim and so pay the minimal cost to achieve that aim. So we can hardly blame them.
illumination does put more effort in than you think
....in their ad campaigns
1:52 And that's what pisses me off about Illumination. They have the talent to make something great and timeless, but they only target to the lowest common denominator by releasing so much mediocrity. Even studios like Sony Animation and Blue Sky (at the time), that don't have the best track record when it comes to quality, can make something fantastic and rewatachble for a long time. I want Illumination to do better, and I'm hoping the Super Mario Movie can break that mold for them.
Yeah but knowing the grinch, I think even the Mario movie might be mediocre like the rest
Honestly the cartoon community only has itself to blame for it. Whenever something experimental and different comes out it's only rarely successful.
@@kaiser8659 that's not the fault of the cartoon community
@@kaiser8659 "Cartoon community", namely adults who are willing to support quality with their money, are a minority. The main target audience for animation and main source of income are families with kids. Doesn't matter if 50k people goes to see a Laika movie 5 times each, if toddlers are more entertained watching Minions, the former will flop.
Honestly they only care about money 💰
A joke my friends and I have about Illumination is basically this: "Illumination knows what they are doing, 60% of budget goes to hiring the voice cast, and the other 40% is split in varies quantities for writing and animation"
60% of the budget goes to marketing, so you can never avoid it.
You mean 40% goes to animation, they don't need to hire writers, they just look up fan fiction
It's mostly put in voice cast and animation with writing taking third place really
not sure how this is a joke but its true
And THAT is why the Super Mario fandom has a lot of anxiety for what's coming...😨
I honestly enjoyed Sing 2. It was pretty much the Pitch Perfect 2 of Sing. Did we need a sequel? No.
But it was enjoyable, and getting U2 was kinda wild and pleasantly fun. There were some scenes where the backgrounds and animation are AMAZING
Personally I feel like a squeal would've been more sense since it doesn't make any sense ending with the first movie
Have to respect Illumination for still making movies for actual kids and families too.
Every other animation studio and the entirety of Disney seem browbeaten into solely appeasing twitter via parading western-stereotypes of various cultures.
@@anasevi9456 wow, that is actually spot on!
I liked it too!
@Ana Sevi If Disney really wanted to appeal to certain cultures and minorities on Twitter, they'd actually make full-length movies about it. Instead, they typically advertise what may spark minorities interest by including in ONE short scene something valuable while still being entirely vague about it and / or incorrect. Disney definitely plays both sides in the worst way, I do agree. However, Pixar I argue is the far superior animation company. The problem with illumination is that the content is typically pandering and dumbing down the audience in most of their films. For instance, it's why they market the Minions with lowbrow humor instead of making something engaging for a child, like say any Toy story movie. Studios like Laika and Studio Ghibli also have good movies for families, not necessarily for children, but for anyone to enjoy. Ponyo or even Boxtrolls and Paranorman come to mind as great movies kids and adults alike can enjoy. Movies don't have to be just for a young audience, Pixar has proved many small children enjoy their movies while maintaining that quality seal for any age to enjoy.
I’ll give it credit, the new characters were way more interesting than the main characters.
Jimmy Crystal is a spectacular villain. Every time he showed up hating that koala, it was a blast.
@mr nobody bot
Buster deserved to be thrown by him tbh
@@Loonlings I absolutely agree.
@@thecinematicmind he lied twice and he’s such an asshole for forcing a guy who went through something traumatic into a pressuring position
I mean I don’t blame Jimmy for hating Moon he is legitimately the most unlikable protagonist ever
I went to see this today and actually really enjoyed the movie. Yes the plot is uhhh well pointless it was still a fun watch and good poppy music and my younger sister really enjoyed too. And I was just enchanted by the incredible animation it was such a beautiful movie! The colours, lighting, backgrounds all of that detail was just amazing! Such talented artists. I’ve always wanted to be an animator and these movies always leave me feeling inspired 🤩
It is amazing but people don't do their research or they haven't even watched the movie
It honestly blow my mind, i doubt at first because well the internet mostly dislike illumination but i actually relly enjoyed it! The actual problem is that buster moon didn't have chatacter development. Other characters pretty good tho.
I loved it too! The animation blew my mind. I agree, the lighting, the details..everything! Characters were great and I understand that Mr. Moon was a liar, but I still enjoyed it. Me too! I am an animator(not the best) and this really inspires me too!❤️
Visuals were spectacular, nothing could replace actually good writing tho HAHAAHH.
I find it hilarious that minor characters from the previous movie (Johnny's dad and Rosita's husband) had better character development than Moon himself.
Maybe because major character flaws don't disappear overnight? Rosita's husband has never been shown to be abusive or anything towards his wife, both of them obviously were exhausted with the day to day grind, but we had no evidence that Rosita's husband would EVER shit on her dreams or not support her. As for Johnny's dad, all the dad knew is that Johnny was flubbing on him because Johnny was too afraid to tell his dad what was going on. But we know that he loved his son, which is why he was willing to give him a important job to begin with, a job on which their freedom hinged, but when he saw what Johnny really wanted, and saw that he was good at it, he never showed that he wouldn't understand.
Buster? He lies when he gets nervous, it is a negative character flaw, and such flaws don't disappear over night, he fell back into his old habits but this time, he didn't just do it for himself, everyone's dreams was hinging on this to work, so he didn't just lie for himself, he lied for the sake of his cast who also were excited to play in the big leagues. And it doesn't overshadow Buster's 'superpower'. The ability to see the talent in the people he casts, willing to push them past their comfort zones because he knows they will grow, adapt and become better for it.
Jerry had better character development
I honestly LOVED this movie. It's Illumination's best in terms of visuals, imo. The hotel/theater/show design blew me away. I'm not jazzed about regular actors being VAs for the sake of popularity, but those casted did a good job. I was really rooting for our main cast from the 1st film. Perfect sequel, instant comfort movie. It doesn't need to be on par with Disney to be a great film.
"It doesn't need to be on par with Disney to be a great film" describes basically all of my favorite movies
I agree!! The Sing movies are some of Illuminations best imo, I enjoyed them alot. No immature, dirty jokes (except for 1 in the first movie, but it couldve been worse).
They really tried to give these characters their own stories and show their struggles as they try to be better and reach new heights!
Idk what the big deal is with this film in some people's eyes lol, they're really fun.
Like #100 for the enthusiasm (I still say the original was perfect, this was fun but not quite there for me personally)
It was a great movie 🍿
I agree
Me and my girlfriend saw Sing 2, I've never seen the first Sing, but she had. I thought it was super fun and really visual beautiful, and my girlfriend thought it was nothing but an improvement from the first. So I don't know if the movie needed to be made or not, all I know is it was a very fantastic movie that we both enjoyed.
I really enjoyed it too! I also like they got rid of one of the worst characters (the mouse).
Sing 2 is a cinematic masterpiece
I enjoyed PORSHA. LOL
Same. Also never saw the first.
In the exact same boat. We both enjoyed it a lot.
The weird thing is that the first two despicable me movies actually had stakes and a great plot for anybody to enjoy, but then they decide to dumb down their movies for no apparent reason other than its eaiser
They do it for money
Refreshing to see some appreciation and respect for Despicable Me 2. I’m sick and tired and of course annoyed with many Illumination haters saying only the first Despicable Me was good and treating the second film the same as the other Illumination films whereas that film at least had some effort and new interesting ideas.
"can't sing no more cuz my wife's dead" might be the best quote in the saberspark lore
Sounds like that troll guy. Forgot his name.
Spoilers for the first trolls film:
He refused to sing cause it killed his grandmother. His words.
@@galacticmoonwolf8462 you mean branch?
@@diamondtime5406 Probably if that's his name
Heard this one before..... XD
Anyways, my verdict is that it WAS pointless, but also somewhat entertaining. It was nice to see Buster Moon continue with his "Dream Big Dreams" mantra and everything, so I didn't mind it that much.
Didn't expect it to be a big blockbuster, so I enjoyed it. Not anything to remember or forcefully promote/put on a pedestal as the greatest animated movie of all time, so it's a relative opinion.
I am thinking about dropping out of school to focus on my career as a star on TH-cam. I already make a lot of money on TH-cam. School bores me so much. I need more opinions and since I don't have any friends, I gotta ask you, kr
@@AxxLAfriku you should stay from internet, like forever, you are incarnation of shitposting that have gone for too long and for your videos with your cousins makes me think that you do deviant and disturbing things with them.
On on this side. Not going to be the greatest or block buster movie but fun characters, decent animation and can enjoy the songs. It entertaining and doesn't try to be more than that.
@@rohgadriscol he’s like the internet ghost that haunts the comment sections “some say that he still shitposts to this day ooohhoohohhoo😶🌫️”
I really enjoyed Sing 2, but my biggest issue was the lion's singing voice. If you're gonna have this gruff lion with a gruff voice sing, HAVE IT BE A GRUFF SINGING VOICE.
Yeah when I heard it I sat here wondering how the hell he still has that voice, even though it was mentioned many times he hasn't sung for awhile.
It is Bono, the lead singer for U2
@@thunderbolt4494 I know that, but it doesn't fit the character.
@@ThePhenomenalEX I found it weird too but he probably still had that good voice but was lying about it
@@Imperviousdragon We put commas before "but".
The biggest thing that annoyed me was they kept saying "you are a bunch of losers from a nowhere town".
They were from California. Not even a small town in California, main Hollywood and the theatre is one of the most popular in the country ran by a wealthy heiress.
@Angel valkery X I’m saying I’m pretty sure the new city is like the equivalent of Las Vegas or something so i don’t get it either
I personally think Buster's lesson should've been caring about the lives of his coworkers rather than putting their talent out, that's what really threw me off with this movie.
If I go to some big shot to prove I have talent and the second the big shot wants to literally kill me because of something petty like making them look bad, I would be more concerned about getting to safety rather than showing my talent.
My heart actually broke after seeing all of his happiness and positivity instantly disappearing. It was like a ruthless slap in the face as I had the false belief that a modern animated family movie could be such a masterpiece.
Did You really expect anything from Illumination other than Whatever seriously their only good movies are Despicable me 1 and 2 their other movies range from OK to Terrible
wrong video
Wtf I thought bots only went after really large channels.
@@jorami4838 He's got over a million subs.
Same!! Literally everyone on TikTok was raving about it and giving it positive reviews and then turned around and started making fun of it and I was so confused 😭
"We are illumination, we dont strive for greatness, we strive to make money to make more movies to make more money"
"This movie was not necessary"
"That is the entire point"
This also applies to Disney.
@@abandonedchannel1010 not really since they actually put effort to their movies compare to illumination
@@supertails0246 but disney has repititive movies and care to overly milk their movies and proceed to buy anything so that they can turn these properties into money printers.
@@supertails0246 I don't know. The Live action reboots have been pretty dull so far and questionable in terms of effort so far.
@@JustSomeDinosaurPerson no I’m talking about their animated and cgi movies not those cash grab live action movies
2:30 You have to love how 2 of the 4 icons in the Illumination logo are from the same property. It sort of speaks to a lack of success with their other ones.
Literally everything they’ve done has been franchised (except for their Dr. Seuss adaptations)
I feel bad for saber for dealing with a surprisingly toxic community
Yeah, it shocks me that sing 2 out of all movies, has a toxic community.
What happened?
@@doesthisIookinfected look at his twitter
Sing 2 isn't toxic community
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Let me check ✔️
Get ready for my edit
Edit: that was one guy and most of us are nice
@@doesthisIookinfected becuz ppl kept hating on sing 2 idk whats the drama maybe becuz it was too dark for kids cuz my baby sis was scared of mr crstal and i would agree they were wrong making a toxic community
a singing voice being completely different from a speaking voice is more common than most people think.
Adam Levine is great example
Right? My sister is a big fan of Melanie Martinez and her normal voice and singing voice are so different that if I hadn't seen her speak I would never believe it.
@@juliap5907 Huh... I always thought MM's speaking voice sounded the same as her singing voice
Josh Groban. That is the only example you need
Shirley Manson is another
Got to agree with the title, the entire time I was thinking "These are exactly the same plot points and conflicts from the first movie." And while it's still a feel-good movie, which is the only thing I wanted from it, I was hoping to be slightly surprised. I really could see the dog critic from the beginning doing her assesment on Sing 2 : "It's cute, but it won't make it on the big stage."
This movie will be forgotten before the next decade.
I.can forget the 1st exist. This was a solid improvement
I kind of feel like that's a much better criticism than the movie didn't need to be made. Because if you're only criticism is that the movie was not necessary, well yeah no movies are necessary. It's a movie.
Saw this last night and I don't remember seeing any fart jokes. So at least the movie has that going for it as it seems illumination was starting to base all it's humor on farts. Admittedly there were a few moments that got a chuckle out of me but I agree it's not the best movie.
It is a good movie for me and I'm s teenager but we all have our own opinions
@Sheldon obviously you've never loudly farted in a funeral
@Sheldon k
Sing 2 is a fabulous movie. Porsha is my favorite character. But not for the reason you might think 😅. Halsey truly brings the character to life in a way the script could not. Her singing and acting is great. Despite Porsha being a spoiled brat, there’s a lot more to her than meets the eye. Her final song: could have been me” is fantastic. I really hope that we get Sing 3. I just want to see more of her.
Finally a comment I could totally agree on and I'm with you on this one
Yes I agree she also wanted to be a part of the play and she had a great scene
I didnt really care much for her but her last song was great
Porsha's song (or my interpretation of it) was her finally blowing her top and telling off her dad. She instantly became my favorite right then and there.
I can agree that the part was played well, but I just don't understand why I have not seen anyone call out the fact that the main characters randomly deciding to go get her and allow her to be a part of the show made any sense whatsoever. It was rushed, and weird, completely out of place.
It is so odd to me that no one is talking about that. It also felt random that she went from spoiled brat calling for her daddy when things did not go her way, to suddenly basically throwing a middle finger to her dad and singing in the show. A lot of things about porsha felt out of nowhere.
We really didn't need Sing 2 but I think that it's a lot better than the first.
There are so many spam bots omg
i agree
I didn't go to Sing 2 for a radical plot. I just really like the animation / songs they chose, and it was a fun time. *shrug*
I love how people on the Internet think the Sing franchise is either Illumination's best catalog or the worst thing since Santa Claus conquers the martians.
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO HAS SEEN THAT PILE OF MARTIAN SHIT MOVIE
I thought the last act was super fun and I really loved the visuals of their performance. I half expected it to focus more on the backstage stuff with the bad wolf guy rather than the actual show that they had been hyping up this entire time.(think like high school musical) but I was pleasantly surprised that they actually showed the show the whole movie led up to. Was really surprised that the movie made the wolf bad guy like an ACTUAL murderer but I appreciate the tension rather than just "oh no he's gonna ruin the show". The first and second acts were boring and I didn't like them very much. Portia is incredibly irritating. Overall, really predictable, but the characters and visuals make up for the lack of story in a lot of ways. Solid 6/10
Understand the characters more and that's what most of the fans did and it actually helps you more
Fun Fact: If you shorten “Secret life Of Pets” into initials, it really proves how bad of a film that was...
SLOP
gottem
HEY. Secret Life of Pets was *good.*
@@PBnJski How old are you?
Is that how Encanto is abbreviated?
@@dangerousmaster66 Almost every sequel is a garbage fire but you changed my opinion, SLOP was okay because when I watched it I was actually hyped, but when I saw the actual movie I was very dissatisfied
Sing 2 was a safe movie that had better character work than the first, 2 thirds of the movie was decent, nothing amazing or inspiring but real talk the final act showing the built up performance was the best, I really enjoyed the energy of it, gorilla dad and his bros going ham and go to peoples elbow a poor goon and the scene cutting just before it could follow through had me laughing quite a bit, its sad that only THIS PART in the last 20-30 minuets of the movie -or so idk- was the good part to me, but thats just me.
Yes thank you
I will say, I am very happy we got to see the final show and it was really cool imo
Thank you
I genuinely enjoy the Sing movies. In my opinion, it's all about the spectacle of performing and the plot is just a minor bonus. There doesn't need to be a dynamic storyline when the point is to come and enjoy the music with very pleasing visuals. People may not enjoy that, but I do. It brings me back to my childhood where I'd imagine characters singing and dancing to songs I'd hear on the radio. This is a more glorified version of a child's musical imagination and I am verily grateful for it!
Then don't advertise it as a movie lol.
Movies need a proper plot to be good.
I couldn't said it better!
imo both movies were very average but I really enjoyed the second one, honestly, but I have seen better movies
I disagree but i can understand and respect your opinion. Specifically about movie one (because i have actually watched that one) To me if it was about the music and visuals, they underused it (a lot). Many of the characters were ugly and/or reused character models. In fact the movie isnt really very outstanding visually at all. And in the music department, if i remember right, all of the songs were covers. Finally, i do not remember any creative visuals. And yes, they do have a target audience in mind and a target goal: money. However, I do not think art should be soley for money with little regard for quality. I think that they can still make good stuff with a goal of money, they did not need an outstanding plot or anything but more effort in visuals and music would have changed my mind somewhat.
Never thought of it like that! The spectacle is why I enjoy the Cats musical so much, so maybe I should approach Sing with spectacle in mind.
Maybe it was pointless. But it gave us soooo much more furry material. The wolf, the lynx, and the saluki dog. Made my life so much brighter.
Looks like someone is honest 😂
Wtf xd
I did think it was kinda unnecessary- but I honestly loved it, too. Mostly the energy and the songs, the new characters, just y e s.
Nobody requested asked for it either but now I watched it and it does make more sense to make another one
Agreed. It's not a bad movie at all. I genuinely liked it. It had a decent plot. Has character development. More than can be said about most kids' movies.
So even as a non-furry, there is a _very clear_ trend going on bc now yall have got:
- Loona.
- Roxanne.
- Juno AND Legoshi.
- The wolf from The Bad Guys.
- and now Portia.
Somebody out there in media promotion/marketing REALLY likes their anthro wolves 😂
Wolves have always been a very popular trope and choice since almost everyone likes dogs and wolves are basically that but more exotic.
Don't forget the OG, Lily from Alpha and Omega.
It's basically an win-win for entertainment companies nowadays. You get appraisal from both the "what a cute wolf" crowd who like wolves, and the furries who.... yeah we don't speak about what they think of these wolves.
That said, I'm down for it. Porsha is a certified qt and I like that they actually gave her character development in the film.. just a shame it wasn't made by a superior studio who would've tackled her character 1000x better.
It's not a trend... the media to which those wolf characters belong have numerous OTHER anthro animal species too, it's just that the canine/wolf characters are always the most popular and receive the most attention from people bc *you know why* :v To this day, I still don't understand why the furry fandom is so obsessed with wolves, of all animals.
The funny part is, I'm a furry and I don't really like all these wolf characters, wolves are kinda overated in my opinion
@@AdaTheWatcher everyone's OC does seem to be either wolves, foxes or wolf-like dogs. Cat OCs are a bit overdone too. Maybe it's just the default, accessibly cute animals with plausible deniability of being cool?
“She’s really making the rounds on websites.”
Okay, that’s a new one
Illumination makes movies that are just simple and good for reruns and rewatch-ability when you want pretty mindless content. It’s like dried sugary dried fruits (or chocolate covered) makes you feel better about eating it then “true” junk food, it’s not totally terrible but definitely not great and fulfilling
I honestly enjoyed the movie, the songs were honestly fantastic, I wasn’t expecting a masterpiece, but I got an altogether fun movie with some funny gags, great voice acting, and great music.
A solid 8/10 for me.
I agree Sing 2 is a masterpiece one of the best movies ever made
Wtf they just copied Songs in the second Movie
i very liked the movie, but can't say any of the songs really struck me like most of the ones from first Sing did; i think my favorite song in this movie though was Wolfgirl's. while i don't usually like characters like hers- or how she was introduced, she got a bit better toward the end :>
😑🔫
@@PussInBootsTheLastWishFan2003 That’s not what they’re saying.
I actually liked it more than the first. It felt like the characters had come into their own. Regardless of plot
The plot was actually ok and people who said it was bad are people who either agree with everyone says or it's their opinion
Personally, I find Sing 2 an overall improvement from the first, even though I can see some repeated plot beats. I love Portia (platonically! I’m bi but that doesn’t always mean I have the hots for a character in a romantic way!) and I wish we got more time to flesh (fur?) her out.
I liked how the first didn’t need a villain to have a conflict, and how in this, Jimmy Crystal didn’t become the villain until his breaking point in the second half.
thank you 😌
Finally someone who gets it but I think Jimmy Crystal was always a villain since he didn't hesitate before throwing buster moon
@@Imperviousdragon Aww you're welcome, I love your avatar! :D
That's a fair point, Crystal does say that right off the bat so it's possible he might've just gotten even angrier at Moon.
The way he handled his anger was not the best thats why he became the villain lol
nooshy IS cool
@@jojopossom_marcelaopossom Yep! I also love her!
Everything in this movie was genius. I went in to see this movie with "meh" expectations since I thought the first one was just okay. I am so glad to be proven wrong. I'm not ashamed to admit that this is one of my new favorite animated films.
I loved Johnny's arc in particular - Taron played him PERFECTLY, his emotions were so real. The conflict between him and Klaus and the immediate bond between him and Nooshy was so inspiring, and to see him flourishingly rise above Klaus's abuse in "Sky Full Of Stars"... I was bouncing in my seat and cheering him on. Of course, everyone else's stories were played out phenomenally, too.
And the songs, oh my gosh the SONGS! I resonated with every single song in this film and every song fit perfectly with what was going on and they fit the situations perfectly. But generally speaking, to have such a mix of current and less current music woven together so perfectly is beautiful.
I'm not a U2 fan because I was never really exposed to their music but that does not lessen the impact of Clay Calloway's (Bono) storyline. His connection with Ash got me misty-eyed a few times, and whenever one of his songs was sung in the movie it was always acoustic and slow and solemn, which added so much to how revered his character was in the universe, and felt like a love letter to Bono really.
I also really loved how each character is an animal that fits their emotions. Johnny is a gorilla who is trying to find himself and eventually lives up to the confidence his father wants him to have. Meena is an awkward elephant who’s socially awkward. Buster is a cute unintimidating koala while Crystal is a viscous wolf. Finally, Clay is a lion who’s intimidating at times, but is really soft on the inside.
Also: props to illumination for giving us a gutsy villain who's willing to do whatever he thinks it takes to get his way. I was pleasantly surprised to see how dark Mr. Crystal was, but that could be just me (I love older darker kids movies like An American Tail or The Black Cauldron and you just don't see movies leaning into that side nowadays).
Every character got just enough screen time and story to make me care about them and as a theater kid, I appreciate how we see the strings attached to the final production - wires, harnesses, etc. that really make the show seem applicable to real life.
TLDR for this passionate rant: I freaking loved this movie. Best animated film of the year in my opinion and I'll be buying it on DVD as soon as it's available. An amazing cast with a well-thought-out storyline and stunning visuals and music choices. My deepest admiration to Garth Jennings for this masterpiece of a film.
I don’t really care for Illumination movies but I absolutely loved Sing and Sing 2. Sing 2 probably more so. I just really love the characters and the song usage. I also felt like the animation in Sing 2 was really great. There were moments that blew me away.
I agree
I agree the movie was really good
Something I loved about Sing 2 its the main villain, is there even a main villain Sing 1? Mike doesnt really count for me, hes just the rude, cheeky and thinks hes the best but even I dont think he was a villain.
i agree, it deserves the recognition it has if not more
I enjoyed the second movie more than the first one. I liked the new characters, especially Porsha. She actually had character development instead of Buster lol.
A great many of the spectators love Porsha; including me. She is so cute
Busta, straight busta - Ryder
Tbh I didn't think the premise was all that dumb, I liked it. It makes sense, you want your cast of people to be seen as something more than just a local acting troupe. And you want important performance people to see that as well. But I guess I could see why you thought it was pointless since he worked hard for his theatre and just said, "nah I wanna preform on the big stage" but I mean he never said they were never coming back to the theatre, just that he wants his troupe to be seen and recognized, and you do that either through reviews, advertising, traveling performances, etc. Also I think I didn't dislike too much about sing one and two because there just fun, like the characters are fun, and they don't really need to be more than that for these movies. They captivate you enough to enjoy, but not to where your like "omg that's me" and like have a deep connection.
Edit - just so y'all know I like saberspark, this ain't a diss, I liked the video as well just disagreed with some stuff is all :)
Preach
@Sheldon I keep seeing your god awful replies everywhere pls shut up no offense
Introducing a wolf girl and putting her in a skin tight jumpsuit with wide hips and a cute Jersey accent?
…yeah, Illumination knew what they were doing.
My verdict:
The animation was not bad, the story was passable, just this movie and this entire company is just "That'll do" in my opinion, like nothing amazing since Despicable Me 1
But honestly, just passable, just one of those movies where Mom puts it on and says, "I'll put Sing 2 on if it'll shut you up"
This is basically what I thought too
well except they basically reused the first movie’s plot and changed it a little but they did add something new here and now
I thought the movie was quite good. The overall plot was a bit shallow, but I enjoyed the screenplay for the most part. But the thing Illumination always blows away is the visuals. The sets look amazing. I remember thinking the same thing even about Minions
Same the movie was good
I like the movie because it kind of reminds me as an artist that I always want to see how far my talents could take me and how far I can go with them.
Isn't it natural for talented people to see how far they can go and always striving for the stars just to do what they love?
Cringy
That's pretty much the point that Saberspark missed in the video. Buster and the gang were of course happy that they had their theater and show but dreaming also of how great it would be to be able to take it on tour on even bigger stages and to reach and entertain more people even.
@@MarcMarioMaster We all want to see how far we can go with our talents and skill. It's only natural. I have never met anyone who says that they made to one point but never dream of seeing how much further they can go. The 1st movie was all about getting recognized while the 2nd movie shows on how far they can go with their talents. I mean, look at all the artists on TH-cam. They all have a hard time getting recognized but once they got recognized, they wanted to see how far they can go.
I just realized this is kinda more like Zootopia, where the animal serving ice cream is an elephant.
I know it wasn't a great movie
but as an animator
holy hell was the animation on point
True
No it wasn't that good
@@softnoobgirl73 mmm I think it was good but oke
The weird contrast between normal talking and singing voices is common in Spain and maybe on other countries when they dub the English movies.
It's pretty common in musicals. A lot of movies use different voice actors and singers for the same character. We usually overlook it because the entire tone shifts. The thing with this movie is the lion talks like Nick Nolte and sings like Bono. It's jarring.
@@frizzlefriar4417 I see
I watched this movie on my birthday. It was a surprise. And I was greatly impressed. Though the finale to the show... Was so bad. It doesn't make sense, and the old, gruff lion that hasn't sang in FIFTEEN Y E A R S sounds like he's in his 20s with a very angelic voice. Wtf.
I can't help it, I adore these movies. Good ol' bubblegum fluff. Also it introduced me to The Struts, which is a plus.
the only really emotion i felt watching the movie with my family was thinking the wolf girl was cute. literally that was all my mind focused on
Ew furry
@@calebproductions1264 Is there a problem with that?
@@calebproductions1264 *you have a problem with furries?*
Liking a furry character doesn't make you a furry and it's already been confirmed
@@octoA. who the hell wouldn't? Furries are just weirdos trying to get into kid's pants and support trash naughty sites like e621, if I ever see one irl I'm getting a shotgun.
Can't wait for Sing 3.
The cinematic universe is building up with alot of promise. The plots get denser by the installment. The depth is of a KUBRICK level and so is the symbolism.
Yes and finally people who agrees
If it's gonna be the finale to the Sing franchise, I wonder if all cast members of the first and second movies will join together to reprise their roles?
I’m SO excited for Sing 3 Sing 2 was so good I was getting chills at the theatre I hope there’s more than just 3
@@landontk7696 Sing 3 is most likely going to be confirmed and just look at the box office and it just made 300m in around 2 months snd it made way more then encanto too
@@Imperviousdragon Love your Pfp I loved Porsha’s girl on fire and her performance and attitude
Yes yes, i've been waiting for your review on Sing 2 Saberspark and the wait has been worth it!, anyway while i really enjoyed Sing 2 i must admit that it sadly wasn't as good as the first film but it was still a fun one to watch! i especially like Porsha she had such a beautiful singing voice i mean her acting wasn't too great but her singing was first rate! and i admit she was kinda hot in fact the second i first saw her in the trailers i was like "New furry waifu alert" lol...but anyway like i said despite having it's ups and downs like all movies do, i overall enjoyed Sing 2!!!
I like her dad…totally shipping him with johnnys dad now
@@finkahata5663 bro, nobody asked
@@realrealwarpet SOBBING WHAT
@@jumpyyjasminee5315 both are in jail, and the rich guy needs a new bodyguard. So why not johnnys dad?
Wasn't as good as the first movie?
Dude I think you need to rewatch it
I miss Mike, they should have brought him back in the sequel, he was such a great character.
Not a good character just the only one that isn't ooh, I'm a good cute animal and still likeable, he was my favorite as well
Apparently Seth Macfarlane wanted the company to pay lots of money towards him in order for him to be in the second movie. So yea.
Sing Thriller: As you wish… but only for a brief few seconds.
I don’t like the fact that they try to make us believe the lion character was secluded for years and years and did not want to interact with anyone at all, but then all of a sudden pretty much one interaction where buster (I think it’s him who says it) says “but is this what your wife would’ve wanted” and then the porcupine character just spends a night with him off camera suddenly makes him change his mind and realize he needs to join them is just so dumb. It’s such a cheap way to try and get the crowd invested emotionally in the character by having a sad backstory only for them to have no clue how to resolve the conflict and do it in the worst way possible basically.
We didn't need that... but I'm still glad we did. It was fun and since I liked the first one, I was glad to get more...
And no, I don't want to see the "Seth McFarlane mouse" back. He was the worst and I didn't even find him that fun. He got what was coming to him.
Not gonna lie, the art of her on e621 is pretty well done. Kudos to the artists for making the wonderful pieces.
Awesome video Saberspark!
Saberspark: yeah these movies are kinda bad.
John: so you have chosen…death
Who's John?
@@ctdaniels7049 He's some nut job who's obsessed with Sing and starts harassing people who say it's bad he's currently after LS Mark
What's the deal with this John guy anyway? Not everyone is a fan of Sing 2 I understand that. This John guy shouldn't be toxic and threatening towards someone like Saberspark. As a fan of the movie I didn't like Saber's review of it as well. And I'm a fan of Saber and his content but any review of his that does on a movie he didn't like and it's ones I like, I might hate the review but I respect his opinions on what the film is. But you can't threating someone like that if he or she didn't like the film. John needs to grow up and start to have respect and stop being a toxic baby. Otherwise he'll get picked on throughout his life.
7:44 “I CaNt SiNg nO MoRe BeCauSe mY wIfE iS dEaD”
That’s shouldn’t have made me laugh, but it did
0:28
I bet all the Roxanne Wolf simps felt that
This is one of the best videos you did in a long time. it's like half-drunk rambling. I lover that unrefined content
3rd one should be about their group becoming professionals and starting their own journeys.
And the Koala guy being very attached to them so it will be hard for him to let them go.
Sorry Mike couldn't make It In the sequel because he and his girlfriend are still on the run from those mafia bears from the last movie.
Honestly, I went and watched it immediately after I saw the video title, and I really enjoyed the movie! It's not complicated, and it's really easy to watch.
Good family film. Great soundtrack.
AND THEY GOT *IT COULD HAVE BEEN ME* by _THE STRUTS!!!_
Just watched this movie for the first time today, and I'm not going to lie. Clay's story almost made me cry, and I'm not even one to get emotional, at least for movies.
Also, Porsha and Nooshy are definitely furry bait, especially Porsha. I'd be surprised if that wasn't at least part of the intention. Porsha is actually the character in this movie who I have the most mixed opinions about. She is annoying for most of the movie, but has a complete turnaround in the climax during the show. I love how she just doesn't care, and goes against her father.
Also, Saber not only knows the existence of _that_ website, but has willingly gone to it? Not good for their "I'm not a furry" argument. I just know of it because of The Click, but I've never been there.
I actually liked the Sing movies. They're fun. Not masterpieces, but not terrible. I personally don't understand the hate.
I was actually expecting a good conversation in the replies, but no. Just bots
People want Pixar quality on any 3d movie. Sometimes just simple works. *Cough* Luca *Cough*
They think because its illumination that itll suck. Plus the first movie can not long after Zootopia, so people thought it was a rip off
I'm not here tryna change ur opinion but there's a video on youtube called "i hate sing" and I feel like it does a good job covering things wrong with the first movie.
@@burmessafox3939 Pretty much
4:05 This is why I hate movie trailers, they ruin great surprises. I want a trailer where it gets people hyped while not ruining itself
That's true
3:42 “Pig mom. Yeah, you can sing too.” Pun intended?
Wheres that fool john?
lol we must find him to have closure and peace
I'm going to be honest, I really liked this movie a lot. It was just fun.
Saber: why do people think I'm a furry?
also saber: 0:33
Not having Seth on this one is quite a bummer, I loved his character and I love his singing
I loved these, probably because of the performances. I think it's so sweet how the lion obviously loved every aspect of his lat wife, he kept her wheelchair, he wanted her in every phase she went through. The whole cast basically were following the message of success being relative. I loved it entirely, it was thoroughly conceived message. Even if you tried your best, sometimes it won't be good enough for those you idolize.
"that wolf girl was uh interesting
she seemed to be pretty popular already
a friend and i checked a certain
website
if you know, you know
but like to see how popular she was and hoooboy"
No. N o. N O
*SABER NO.*
He has been lost to the furries, he will be remembered.
Porsha Crystal
I disagree, I loved these movies. It’s about art and dreams and what will you do to actually get to your goal. You can be pure and innocent and have the best intentions but still lie to get what you want. In that industry, you have to prove yourself again and again not only to others who look down on you but also prove to yourself. Each character has their own struggles and strengths.
And they’re animals to make them more relatable than humans can. Just cuz it’s not like zootopia or beastars, animal characters have always been used to make them more relatable to people. Like Winnie the pooh or any kids show with animals. Or bed time stories.
Idk, I enjoy both complex and lore driven stories but also love simplistic fun stories with a few lessons and emotional moments. Thank you for the video as always ^^/
I agree with your opinion
Thank you
yeah. imo, i find Sing 2 FAR superior than Sing 1. Just it took 6 YEARS to make the sequel
@Gundam sandrock John Lewis from twitter 😂 and yeah not all are like that and it's rare to find a toxic fan and sing 2 fans are mostly really kind
@@aqua2poweros699 I'm pretty sure it could if taken 5 years to make and I'm pretty sure the celebrities delayed the movie because they're really busy and have things to do
“We didn’t need this.”
Well it gave us Porsche so I think I will need to disagree.
YOU HAVE GENUINELY ANGERED ME
The one thing I LOVE about this movie: Buster *finally* has an actual house.
I realy liked sing 2. And Yeah i liked sing 1. The song are very good, the coreography is amazing, i loved the animations being soo colerfull and the story is basic butt i dind't realy hope an amazing story
Yeah that’s how I approached sing 2, I found sing 1 to be pretty decent but sing 2 took that concept and made it a lot more enjoyable imo.
Sure we were hitting similar plot beats with the whole lying incident but ion if I had really cared too much about it.
This is a certified furry moment
The spelling checks out
@blech ?
@@voidtuck4061 sorry but english is not my primary language
Sing 2 feels like an amazing show
I adored Sing 2 from start to finish! I watched Johnny's song like 20 times. It truly is a masterful story about following your passions, and the songs hit just right, I felt like I can really sympathize with the characters, the villains are just the right amount of evil... And we get such a long, juicy feature of what the cast had worked on all movie. I love when a film lets us be a part of the dream fulfillment that the characters have been working towards. I could go on! Can't say enough great things about this movie
I am jealous of the people who don’t know what he was talking about in the first couple minutes of the video
You know what's hilarious? Yes Sing 2 is not great, but I somehow enjoyed this movie way more than Hotel Transylvania 4, this Illumination sequel movie somehow tackled mature themes better and is straight up more mature and better than Hotel Transylvania 4, which sounds weird because the Hotel Transylvania franchise is pretty well regarded meanwhile Illumination movies are a laughing stock, I cannot believe it but I far prefer this movie, it somehow is not as childish and stupid and you can really tell they put way more effort this time around, like I really had a good time with this, yes the story is basically the same, the runtime is too short, preventing the characters to have time to be more fleshed out, there are alot of unfunny/corny/cliche scenes here and there, etc... But you can really tell they tried with this one
That’s for sure, I could watch this again but forget hotel trans 4 even exist
Hotel transylvania 4 just made an effort to include one Blackpink's song to attract more public.
@@HeilRay wait WHAT??? THERE'S A 4TH HOTEL TRANSYLVANIA MOVIE??? OMG I FORGOT
Dude sing 2 is a Masterpiece but the other movie is so bad
@@marcogomez5119
I still don't understand how BP's "how you like that" fit into that movie at all tbh. If you need a song for clout at least make it fit.
My problems with Sing 2:
• A lot of the scenes are predictable.
• The opening sequence was basically a ripoff of the one on Zootopia/ Zootropolis.
• The characters are either uninteresting, unlikable, or both.
• There is a lack of character development.
• One of the new characters is a stereotypical daddy’s girl of someone who has power.
• The villain defeat was mediocre at best.
• The subplots were forced in.
• There is little to no quiet moments.
• There’s a song number like every two minutes.
• The scene were the lizard lost her eye made me cringe.
Positives:
• Some of the scenes were funny and/or enjoyable.
• At least the porcupine and lion had character development.
• The cover of “Girl is on Fire” was good.
Johnny had character development too though because he stood up for himself against the dance teacher and Porscha in a way stood up to her dad in her song scene
This opinion is just a disgusting and you need to fix your humor and stop watching TikTok and hey I don't blame you but most characters development were good actually and not to mention funny and not cringe and yeah it was pretty predictable but still a good movie for me
@@ohnahtayyy_ You have a point there. So I guess that’s four characters who had development.
@@Imperviousdragon
What the fuck.
Fun fact: zootopia has spoiled everyone when it comes to animals and world building
Some scenes of sing 2 might be a mess. But it had such an important message about how not to give up on life during stressful times and how to deal with depression, especially when you lose somebody you love. I think Saberspark is not seeing the big picture.
i agree. This is one of the rare times I feel like Saber isnt as correct
I find it very fitting that Seth MacFarlane was in the cast of Sing as both he and this studio have been lowering the bar for animation, just for different demographics
5:17 OH MY GOD, SABER SAID THEATER CORRECTLY FOR ONCE
I thought they cut Mike because he was freakin dead. Last we saw him, it was implied the gangster bear got to him and his girl.
"I'm not a furry, but I seeked out furry porn of this character just to check how popular she is. But I'm not a furry."
-Saberspark 2022
Yup. Definitely not furry. I've also done some research myself. Can relate.