Tyler Hamilton: Easy to beat drug testers
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- Tyler Hamilton offers his conservative estimate that 85-90 percent of pro cyclists were doping during his competitive years and explains how he would work with doctors to beat the drug testing system.
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Graham always seems like he’s hearing a funny joke when he’s asking a question
😂😂😂
as if he's saying the most clever thing ever said
Wife : Lance, you look great. you're glowing today.
Lance: Who told you that ?
Great guest and interview Graham. I always enjoy your content
Reminds me of Serena and her panic room when the testers came
Lance is the one person who disliked this video
What is there to like about Tylor....
oh come Lance is really dope lol ;)
Imagine being the 10% of legit riders among a bunch of dopers. Oh man...
there was never a 10%, more like 2-3%
Don’t worry, there aren’t any.
@@Nukleon that’s not even close either.
every athlete plays to the whistle. the problem is not athletes taking advantage of the system. the problem is the system that enables doping by continuing to be so inept at enforcement.
Yeah you're probably right - unless the punishments are there, athletes will take every advantage they can get. Testing has gotten so much better though. But I think we need harsher punishments - especially financial. Armstrong should have nearly all of his money taken by the US government, and I'm not saying this because I think he should be bankrupted - I'm saying it because nearly all the money he made would have been through fraudulent means (defrauding sponsors by claiming he was clean, defrauding race organisers of the prize money, defrauding the public). If he ever made any money through legitimate means, he could keep that. But I don't see what money he has ever made through legitimate means. Even today, he does a podcast, and I don't know if he does make money through this, but if he did, it would again be fraudulent, because the only reason he has a profile at all is due to cheating. And he has money from an Uber investment, but the money he invested presumably has come from race winnings, sponsor money, and/or things like book sales, all of which was gained through fraudulent means.
The financial punishments for cheaters needs to be harsher. Yes we should ban from competition as well, absolutely. That's a very good punishment. But financial punishment needs to be harsher too - we cannot allow people to walk away with money obtained through fraud. Do we let those who commit mortgage fraud get away with their money? Do we let those who get money through identity fraud walk away with the money? Do we let bank robbers get away with the money? Perhaps we should also have jail time. It is nonsensical that cheaters, who have such a MASSIVE impact on their competitors by destroying their careers (especially in the case of Armstrong who actively used his influence to get riders like Christophe Bassons hounded out of the peloton due to Bassons being anti-doping), should be able to walk away. They are materially destroying the careers of their competitors. Fraudulently obtained income from cheating at sports should go into a) anti-doping efforts and research, and b) compensating the clean riders who suffered material financial losses (both in terms of lost winnings and in terms of damage to their brand which might otherwise have brought in significant income through book sales etc. if they had won races instead of the cheaters).
@@dc8890 Indeed. He shouldn't have been allowed to settle his case with the US government for pennies on the dollar. Make the bans so long that it isn't worth the risk (Olympic sports, for example, get a four year ban, no questions asked), if not a lifetime ban for cheaters.
uh olympic athletes do this shit too, working with doctors to beat the drug testing.
Pretty sure one of these riders said there was no test for Epo before 1999. Dr. Ferrari was working with cyclists long before then. I'm wondering what if any drugs LeMonde may have been taking during his TdF runs. Though Lance finally admitted to it, he was never actually caught by a positive test.
Asteriskstrong tested positive multiple times, but UCI covered it up. If you read Tyler Hamilton's book, his story is the main bulk of it with corroborating information as a footnote. When talking about 1999, testers in 2005 went back and tested samples for EPO. Of the tests for the first two weeks, almost every sample for Asteriskstrong was either positive for EPO or showed evidence of microdosing. None did in the third week, where Tyler Hamilton says Motoman went home after the lead was insurmountable. Of the samples from others outside of the Postal Service team, less than 8% tested positive. Ironically, despite the "everyone does it" mentality, it sounds like most of the riders were spooked by the Festina Affair, and avoided doping in competition that year. It's probably why his lead was so strong with a third of the race to go.
I hate how some of these interviews just turn into graham trying to get him to tell stories from his book rather than an actual convo. Like graham just is always trying to get him to say these exact stories or statements that must have been in a book graham read to research the interview or something.
@Morgan Zimmerglass They're interviews for people who are too lazy to read books.
So hammilton rode in the late 90s early 00s all doped to the gills. and just recently we had the fastest tour ever. good thing the sport is clean now. ;) No. the bikes are not that much faster. im not looking for a dumb discussion theres enough channels testing old vs new bikes
It was the PED perfection sought by the East German sports machine.
Poignant stuff, Graham.
If Tyler could avoid drug test you can't tell me that there weren't many rider's that's also did. These riders today still sit on the fence and say they didn't do anything, this pisses me off more. Some are still involved in cycling in 2017.
Why does it piss you off? try riding for 3 weeks as hard and fast as you can and see if you don't want drugs to cope.
I have competed at olympic level so i do understand what it takes. Im pissed off with riders that did the same thing as Tyler that are involved in the sport today that say they didnt take drugs. just own up to what they did. Tyler was one of many brillant cyclist
porta Griffiths Own up to what? If they weren't caught they have nothing to own upto. You can't prove a negative.
its my opion and you have yours
portia Griffiths You're entitled to it. But you're still wrong.
I coached throwers at the U of Oregon once upon a time. Both the mens and womens track teams won the NCAA championships in that era. The drug use at that school was beyond ridiculous, ex-athletes were making a good living supplying current athletes with drugs. Coaches were making a great living supplying current athletes and other world-leading athletes with drugs and how to use them and how not to test positive. None of them ever tested positive and they were at a high level of performance and results. I quit coaching because it wasnt only how good you were at coaching but how knowledgeable you were about drugs and thats just not fair or ethical, at least for a person who has good morals. Obviously the administration, the AD, the head coaches, Bill Dellinger and Tom Heinonen were the lowest of the low when it came to morals but fortunately for them the fans of Eugene would never admit to their darlings being cheaters. I forgot also, Stewart Togher, probably nobody more knowledgeable about the biomechanics of throwing than anybody in the world, but also the drug king, all his athletes were juiced up. They got away because they used small amounts a few times but they still cheated.
Its impossible to stop doping a rider can take many things while training in remote locations if theyve just been tested they also no they wont be due for another test right away.
Who were the two cyclists speaking out against doping?
Christophe Bassons was one.. trying to remember the other... mightve been Frankie Andreu
Greg Lemond / Frankie Andreu
Where can we find these full interviews in the U.K.?
The cyclists of today are riding lighter faster bikes but they are still way slower in the mountains compared to the 90 s
2:44
And what is it all about. GREED...... $$$$$ or £££££.
Ex teammates namely stijn devolder and tom boonen?
Well the fix is easy but UCI will not do it because the races will become boring. 1. All bikes 14 kg ( alloy or carbon) 2. Zero TUE's either you can ride or go home. The first step would make cycling safer as speeds would collapse and eliminate 90 % of all Pro cyclists as they would have to add weight to their bodies and grow a pair of legs. Step 2 would eliminate the other slime balls who have zero health issues but need TUE's. The new cycling would have bigger riders, bigger legs and the Pencil leg 80 year old rider looks would immediately disappear from all Tours.
Danfuerth Gillis 14kg 😂
You can still downhill on a 14 kg bike. What is TUE?
Unbias Every Elite Athlete gets TUE (Therapy Use Exemption). These drugs fall into a grey area that is abused left and right. Seems like elite cyclists all have Asthma and require constant meds. Regarding bike weights do you realize that in 1908 they were already riding 11 kg bikes?. Greg Lemond did not beat Fignon at the Tour the France, he did best him by using a technical advantage such as tt helmet and bars, much lighter bike (7 kg). Fignon did not want to cheat with technical advantages and Lamonde should of been disqualified since his equipment was not really fully authorized to be used by the UCI. Basically according to records no one has ever ridden a 14 kg road bike in any of the Tour de France races in all its history. It took 100 years for lightweight bikes to be affordable to the mass consumers, go over that again in your head A Stupid Bicycle!! Imagine all the products that have come and gone and the mass consumer never had the change to use it. Let me ask you this do you think Hollywood wants a full Panavision kit to be $1000? Of course not it has to be $150,000 in order to keep the mass consumers away from that tech as once the magic is revealed all of a sudden you have 1 billion pro users of Panavision kits. This is the exact reason why a Steadicam kit which costs no more than $500 in metal springs and metal bars with bearings sells for $70,000 in Hollywood production supplies 😂. It’s why it was kept out of the public for decades because you would have 1 billion steadicam users thus destroying the “Pro” monopoly on its use.
Why does he always look like he’s crying
You think lance got cancer from the patch?
The patch goes where and side effects are what?
Yes, put it on your nuts and testicular cancer is a rare side effect.
Don’t understand this interviewer’s smug look. It ruins his videos.
Graham is so damn creepy
This is a big embarrassment for such a big racer as Tyler. All times are different and those time was era of drugs. Avery one does it , I mean from juniors to pro. But for any reason everyone mix with shit team us postal. It’s weird, charged people from 90-00s will never be competitive to present time clean riders. How?
I'm thinking most are still doing something you have borderline ketos which they are all ding not illegal yet asthma inhalers open your winpipes and im sure a 100 other things we don't know about as Brailsford changed british cycling by improving a lot of things a little bit that could mean 5 or 6 just legal borderline improvements its all screwed what is micro dosing it doesn't show big money pushes boundaries in all sports a formula 1 new car has just brought some huge mirror mounts that are in fact a big fib as they help the car by a illegal legal aerofoil
I was looking at the thin arms of cyclist this days and some of them now this sounds ridiculous and far fetched but they seem to have a false shape like a almost less air resistance shape would they have a operation to change the shape of their arms I doubt it but just look at them