Why I'm Ditching Carbon Shoes..
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- I'm ditching carbon shoes for my training. What are your thoughts on training in carbon shoes? Drop your comments below and let's spark a conversation! 🔥👟
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Literally reducing his carbon footprint.
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actually carbon shoes is a good way of storing carbon :P
Winner 😂
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Damm Lionel is fking running bro I’m so fkin happy to see this
This dude would rather be running than fking
love that motivation in the second round of 200s by the camera man 😂
Cameraman's on a Segway 😂
Beautiful edit on this one Talbot….had me hooked from start to finish.
Ditto
Me too
Agreed man, top quality production, and the music was wikid. Need to find out those track listings 😂 (pun intended)
Ditto
Its just the guy running and music. I kinda scrolled through and skipped parts and found it still boring.
Sitting here eating my breakfast getting absolutely pumped for my workout later watching this. Awesome content!
Damn! Gotta find a way. Me too. Im 65 and after 7 years of no running I am back! Well not quite yet, comeback in progress! I even want to get back on the track after this clip.
Following Lionel since the start of this channel now, actually seeing a difference and loving it- keep it up!
FANTASTIC editing Talbot! Watched this running off bike on the treadmill. Loved the video angles, music, info on splits, your commentary on those last efforts - fantastic. More of these training vids please!
what a great episode guys! awesome light and edit Talbot!
That consistency set to set was 👌
FInd a way! That hit me hard, so simple, but yet such a strong mentality which applies to everything in life.
Brilliant. And I am looking forward to see some top of the podium results coming from this change in training. Never understood why so many train in carbon shoes but I suppose I am just old school too.
I’m glad to know you will be using carbons on race day. When I saw the title I thought: Lionel don’t do what everyone else is doing to win! Glad is just for training.
That run looks strong. Looks like your pretty much healed up from last couple years,sometimes the body just needs time to heal. Way to stick with it,you know your body and you know what you need. Do what feels right,your doing great and as always still Motivating us all!
hard work pays off !!! mega job Lionel!
Damn it Lionel - i just got hit by a car last week on my run & I'm supposed to rest, but this video makes me want to run... keep up the hard work. This year is the year for you to win again
What a difference of stride at high speed! Well done!
Liking how much content your putting out. Keep it up!
No more doubts - the real Lionel is born again! And with him - his self motivation at its best!
And with it, free motivation for all of us 😁
Great job on the video Talbot, edits and music were perfect
It’s strange to see Lionel with hair
Loving the fire in his belly and the video is just ace, nice work Talbot
Super nice and motivating video, as usual. Keep going ! Any news about the aero testing in the wind tunnel in Germany with the Canyon guys (as announced in a previous video) ?
8:00 @Talbot such a motivator!! Onwards and Upwards 💪🏽❗️❗
Just rewatched this after the Oceanside win. Amazing Lionel! No Limits. I like my HOKA Mach 5s too.
Impressive how he hits those numbers with almost no springiness on his feet and heel striking, imagining how colossal his aerobic base is
Human eye (not even the best coaches') can't tell which running technique/style is more economical than the other. So this doesn't really say anything 😅
a decent amount of top proffessionals heel strike
heel strike has zero impact on efficiency
Talbot’s choice of music is impeccable as always
Find a way!! 💪🏽
I train in a heavy shoe and race in a lightweight shoe (both non carbon). It feels so good to run in a lightweight shoe come race day.
That’s the thing, people seem to have forgot that the race shoes give you a benefit when RACING. If you train in them too, no benefit.
Same here, good strategy
Lionel it looks like your running form has gotten better! Keep going brother and put the work in now to celebrate later!!!
Beautifully shot and edited 🤟🏽
I had gone to carbon shoes for a summer and loved having the faster splits in training but in the end I stopped and run only in the taper in my carbon racers… With this approach I’ve hit so many more PBs. I’m not as quick as you but now that you’re on to my secret no chance of catching you.. Also I’ve added in some zero drop shoes for one run a week and that is usually a trail run, I found that helps too.
Brilliant video. Super motivational guys.
And doesn't Lionel's form look better when he's doing speedwork?
that bit at the end was so motivational
Way to go Lionel! Out hustle and out grind everyone, then transcend this work in your races. You do Lionel. Gut it out until the finish line.
Awesome workout Lionel ! You are going to kill it in your next race !
thanks for putting paces in km too
I'm on the other side of the world but when I watch your running videos I feel a connection.
Wow what happened to Lionel’s “limp”… it seems to be smoothing out some…. Crushing it💪
This is exactly it. I have said it over, over and over. Apparently not in any place where people see it. The best approach to training and race day times is to save the carbons for your last two weeks before a race. This will give your body time to adjust to the race day set up and pace. Glad to see you taking up this approach. As you said... put in the work now, enjoy the benefits later!
These videos are an inspiration. Lionel never give up. No Limits for life! Keep it up brother!
Giving up on carbon shoes though. ;)
Incredible video production!!
Quietly video - only just found your channel - great work 👍🏻👍🏻
Dude, how late are you training? What happened to getting it done early, food and recovery? Cool video though, great edit. Heart on sleeve ❤
Was there any rest in between each rep? You killing it bro💪🏽🔥
it's like Lionel forgot that he almost won the Ironman World Championship in a pair of Skechers.
Those sketchers were pretty good carbon racers
@@MilanSmorethey were not carbon shoes
@@jmw2224 look up Skechers GOrun Speed Elite Hyper
I try to use my carbon a few times a year for hard efforts and races, but otherwise use normal and trail shoes. I like the mental boost for races that carbons give me.
Yeah the mental, and the lack of pressure on knees is a game changer. I always keep 2 pair and break them in then use one for training once a week. Important to train in it regularly to get the full benefit. Hopefully they get cheaper!
Wear one carbon plated shoe and one regular shoe and change every mile.
Love it Talbot Cox!!! Just love it!!
looks like you are slightly overstriding. a bit more of a forward lean and trying to land under your center of gravity might be a good thing to focus on
Good training motivation Lionel 🔥
I like his point. You should train in hard conditions to be at your best on race day. I´ve been using carbon over the last year and I feel I am slower than before when I go back to non-carbons
totally agree with this. I only plate up for races. I love the confidence of running decent session in Hoka Arahi's or similar non glamorous daily trainer.
Beautiful video production 😊
Please don't overtrain again, get the recovery/rest both physically and mentally, when you can 2nd in Kona it seems you did the work and boom after you seemed to over do everything and it hurt you, plz don't jump into that lane again, your deserve the big one.
Running with less shoe tech + more speed might be the best chance Lionel has at balancing and fixing his stride mechanics. From those of us in the biomechanics, physiology world, let's all wish him luck
carbon takes a lot of strain off your lower leg muscles and ligaments which means you're more fresh the next day but also impedes growth and strength development in those ligaments. i thikn it's better longterm to keep carbon for races. i like using the NB1400v6 on the track because it's a super simple flat but they're discontinued. the hoka mach 5 you're using is probably too heavy for a track session but i recommend something like the takumi sen. it doesn't have a carbon plate and is lightweight enough for a fast track session. good middleground between carbon and a low-cushion flat
Takumi Sen still has fiberglass rods though. I am glad I still have a few pairs of Reebok Run Fast Pros to use for track sessions.
Love my Mach 5’s. Recently switched to the Mach X they’re superb.
With Lionel rocking the blonde hair the theme song for this video should have been Quit Playing Games (with my heart)
I am sensing something coming!!
one helluva workout! awesome!
Carbon takes the work/impact away from your feet and ankles. If I do track WOs in carbons, I do a barefoot cool down and always easy runs in non-carbons
Great content and video work.
Those are cool pair of shades..what are those? And these footage pump me to go back to running, great work
The reason people like you Lionel is because you represent the idea that working harder makes you better. 👏 bravo
im using my novablast 3 for everything interval and Marathon Pace training. I had vaporflys, and i loved them. but they broke at the end of last year. i never really went back to plated shoes for my Street running. I am an ultra Trail runner primarily, and my shoe of choice in the Hoka Tecton X. probably the best shoe ive ever had. its like a slightly bouncier plated mach 5.
I just now bought a a metaspeed sky paris for a few HMs coming up. but thats about it.
I'm curious, do you ever run the track in reverse (clockwise) for any reps? great vids lately.....all the vids are great really.....thanks for creating the content!
I know you're asking LS and not me, but I thought I'd weigh in on this.. I run both directions, I'm left-handed and left foot Dominant. Clockwise is easier for me to achieve pace targets. But running both directions balances the force put through both sides equally so I try to ensure I stay balanced, help avoid injury. It also reminds me to push through my legs consistently on corners 💪💪
Every video in which Lionel makes a change, my confidence in him is renewed
So your confidence is renewed weekly lol
He is absolutely right - you lose something. I also ran in them for years and yes they help, but they also make your hoof lazy or lazier. Lionel has especially lazy hoof, he has very little airtime in his step.
If his foot spends more time on the ground it would require more foot strength 🫤
Love to see Lionel do a pure marathon event as part of prep
Lionel what was your "rest" during the 200s? A 200m jog?
I also like my Hoka Mach 5 shoes! Good choice
Haven’t tried the carbon ones yet. Rich people problems ?!?
i did. the same thing i went back to running my fast workouts in non carbon shoes after i really struggled to hit 3:45 min/k in Training sessions were i didn’t have any available.
In fact I still do some of my runs in a pair of 83 Pegasus which were used in marathons back when they were released with great results. This approach helps strengthen my feet and ligaments so that when I go with my Nike Kipchoge AlphaFly's I feel like I can't be stopped.
Have you considered doing some of your training (very little at first) on barefoot running shoes or at least shoes with zero drop? These should strengthen your feet and calves. Better start by only walking in them at first.
Best wishes for the best season of your life. We're looking forward to it.
It would just be INSANE to see what he could do if he changed his form to not have a heel strike
ohh new video!! awesome
There is some thought that the carbon shoes reduce injuries, allowing for increased volume and training. Will be interesting to see if that has any impact on Lionel.
I asked him this in the video but I did not feel it needed to be added but we looked it up and that’s just opinion no scientific evidence behind that statement but you’re right time will tell
its actually the opposite .. carbon shoes can increase injuries
@@David-rh2feno they don’t. The opposite has been proven
@@TalbotCoxMediath-cam.com/video/v_5j7B31V9Y/w-d-xo.html
@@Juan_More_Mile "Long term usage of carbon shoes weakens the achilles" Jordan Donnelly, Athlete Innovation Lead at On
Epic running montage
I for one have never tried carbons due to cost. I can’t afford to race right now much less afford that shoe. In another case I’m running 7:45 tempo pace now so don’t really need them till I can consistently be in the 6’s and faster.
#soinspiring. Incredible production value as always. May I ask the title & artists of the song used throughout? it's dreamy
Very good the sutitle in portuguese tks. For up, guy!
Wachitng from Brazil.
There was a time to watch Lionel run was painful for the viewer, he looks much more "pain free" and smooth in his running today....
He is literally doing what people like me on budget do to conserve their carbon plated shoes. It is expensive so I only use them for fast workout few weeks before race day and race day.
Lionel, come back to your origens! A lot of indoor training and huge passion. Keep simple and believe. In this way, you were second in Kona and you can win the hawaiian crown. Cheers 🤙
Yeah, I like the super shoes, but I don't wear them for every interval workout. It's nice to do some workouts in regular trainers to notice the difference more on race day.
I kind of refused to go down the carbon route. 1 because of cost and 2 because I thought they were a gimmick. But just found a £50 pair of Scott rc carbon shoes. So for that price why not. Very good but only for racing and the odd training run. 95% I'll stick with good old fashioned shoes.
Lionel D1OS Sanders!!! We are two brothers of 9 and 10 years old, we are from Spain, we are your number 1 fans!!! Someday we will win the Ironman of Hawaii, but first we want to see you being the king of the island.
Best training video in recent memory.
How long of recovery do you take between the segments of each distance?
IMO and experience, going from carbon fiber-based shoes to Hokas is like going from the most responsive side to the least responsive side of the spectrum. Hokas have bounce, but my Cliftons were way less responsive from heel-to-toe. A mid-point standard construction brand like Brooks might be what you’re looking for (I use the Adrenalines)
Love this.
Would love to see him run in Raramuri sandals in the next video
the overcast + sunrise aesthetic of this video + the music choices just hit for me idk.
Good call on ditching the carbons.
Is LS going to revisit his lactate tests from the fall? The plan was every 8 weeks.
Rate these so much and even have them in the same colour! 🎉
Back to box section aluminum wheels on the TT bike?
Carbons only come out race week for me. I also found that to much carbon usage leads to calf and achilles issues.
Love it...save the plated shoes for race day. Its easy to get in a mindset of racing your training runs and its not a good thing.
I train in daily shoes and do speedwork in a lighter show. Carbons are for race day and with the cost of them I need to save them anyway. I think their harsh on the feet too to run in all the time.