Anakin asks Obi-Wan for HELP!
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Anakin vs Obi-wan revenge of the sith deleted scene. Anakin asks obiwan for help.
The making of star wars revenge of the sith reveals a lot more about this brutal scene. More dialogue after obiwan defeated anakin was suppose to occur. And some of it was only muted so we can still see it. While sliding down the hill anakin reaches out his hand and You can see his mouth moving as if hes speaking, so what was he saying?
Help me, master!
Obiwans original reply of I love you, but I cant help you ended up being altered by George Lucas.
Lucas wanted to drive home the point that obi wan felt anakin was dead to him, (from a certain point of view) which is why the line was changed to be past tense. I loved you. But I could not help you.( i loved you)
It’s only then that Anakin’s eyes turn from blue to the Sith red - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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I always swore I heard "help me" in the the theater
Hmm maybe another altered thing by Lucas..
I didn't watch it in theaters, but I could have sworn that I heard the full "Master, help me"
He changed it but some theaters had the original
That was the old man behind you choking on his popcorn.
Same thing with the originals trilogy when Luke was at Hoth I coulda swore he called out “Ben” 3 different times before Han appeared but when I look it up it’s only twice
"I hate you" is a powerful statement
He should've listen what Yoda said?
Yeah but he wasn’t just speaking to Oni-Wan, I feel like he was also speaking of Palpatine, of the Jedi order, of the life of slavery he was “rescued” from only to be used as a pawn by the Jedi council, etc. etc. and ultimately, “Vader” is speaking to Anakin himself, realizing that his mistrust and obsession with power had cost him everything he ever loved.
I feel like it was more of a “I hate everything” sentiment behind it
And powerful is the best thing a thing can be.
Hate is the path to the dark
Only if you give those words "power." Talk is cheap. Actions are whqt we are ultimately judged
Qui Gon was probably tweakin tf out for this entire movie
I read tweakin as twerking and I was so confused 😭😭😭
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Meanwhile In The Force Netherworld:
Qui-Gon Jinn: OBI-WAN !!! help the boy!!!
That would have been heartbreaking to hear
Qui-Gon “Obi-wan, promise me you will help the boy!”
@@phantomstar1248😂😂
@@phantomstar1248Obi Wan “ Nah”
Yeah but in 25 years they'd all be chilling in the Netherworld-
-Remember when you killed all those kids?
-What about when you chopped off me legs? And I chopped off my son's hand?
-Um... Anakin you ended up killing me anyway. What about all those genocides you implemented? And you tortured your daughter.. twice! Actually wtf are you doing here, were all those star Wars for nothing? Billions died! And now you're rewarded here in the Netherworld!
-Yeah well, JarJar did things to me. PTSD. You enabled it. Mom lied too. She was a whore Obi-Wan. How do you think i could afford the bits for c3-pO?
The eyes changing color, the hate in his voice and the statement "i hate you" is absolutely gut-wrenching, powerful and sad.
But, his eyes were already red when he killed the separatists leaders...
His body and vocal chords were starting to burn and char so when he said it to Obi-Wan his voice sounds almost demonic…😢
would have been cooler if obi-wan lost to anakin here on the high ground, because the ground shifts below their feet. spiritual.
They should've kept this line. Or at least Anakin's line asking for help.
The fact that Obi-Wan not only didn't help but also rejected him and looked away would make Vader's absolute hatred of him later on much more understandable, as Obi-Wan's part in Vader's creation would have been that much clearer.
I understand why they cut it though. By having Anakin scream for help and Obi-Wan to outright refuse would have made Anakin too sympathetic and Obi-Wan look like a dick.
@thecarolinabull01 yeah. At the time Obi Wan would have to be obligated to help as Anakin was a literal cripple. So audience would definitely take offense to that.
@@thecarolinabull01Umm no not really
It’s Disney’s fault the line is gone 😂
@@idbadgeman5943wtf no it’s not Disney didn’t make episode III of star wars
Oh I would cry if that was included
That is what was included.
Bro I almost cried during order 66 and during anakin and obi wans fight scene
Yeah me too. And this scene already traumatized me enoough when I first waatched it.
I felt some tears accumulating in the back of my eyes watching the short, so I think I would’ve cried lol I wish this trilogy would’ve been as high-quality as the Lord of the rings trilogy, but there’s still some really great moments.
Yeah pretty powerful scene. You could almost feel the pain of both of them.
Missed opportunity “help me Obiwan…you’re my only hope!”
Yikes, that’s... harrowing.
Dude why
20 years later: Father help me...your my only hope!!!
xD
Wow it's like poetry
One thing they completely turned the volume down for was before Vader got his mask on for the first time he says “Padme help me”
A theory is that he tried calling for her but he couldn't say it properly and it came out as more of a whisper, because his vocal cords were burnt from him being on fire
A theory is that he tried calling for her but he couldn't say it properly and it came out as more of a whisper, because his vocal cords were burnt from him being on fire
Honestly the "help me master" is to clear to see that I always just interpreted in a matter of "he has no strength to speak it but he asks for help one last time".
As if it was the last attempt of anakin to speak and Vader would not let the voice come through.
The sith takeover is more about silencing the good in you as opposed to another persona essentially taking over, which is how they phrase it most of the times.
It's not Vader killing anakin, is anaking fading into Vader.
And that scene is a clear demonstration of it
If this video is true, Thats already incredibly heavy.
But if what you just said would have happened it would have been even heavier than that
Master, help me.
I loved you, I couldn't save you.
I Hate YOU!!!
Because he loves darkside
I believe if Qui Gon was training Anakin, he would never have gone to the dark side.
Doubtful, Qui-Gon probably could have had a more proper father role with Anakin but in the end the situation would have been the same.
@@zacharyradford5552I don’t think so. Qui-Gon would’ve been the perfect teacher for Anakin. You can see it in parts in the first Episode. An emotionally balanced Jedi Master who didn’t live to follow the Jedi Council but the will of the living force. A father figure to guide him on how to conquer his emotions was exactly what Anakin needed…Sidious knew this so he trained & sent Darth Maul to kill him. Maul nearly killed Obi-Wan too except for Obi-Wan is one of the greatest all-around Jedi in history & survived. “Obi-Wan is a great teacher. As wise as Master Windu, & as powerful as Master Yoda.” - Anakin, AOTC
I believe it is implied that Qui-Gon would have been the father figure anakin needed. I believe this was the beginning of a chain reaction that led to anakin’s downfall to the dark side.
@@Darkesstknight What lead to Anakin's downfall was the Jedi Council's refusal to help his mother. That deeply hurt Anakin and is really what lead to him following Sidious.He knew exactly how to manipulate Anakin ,he knew Anakin blamed and held the council responsible for his mother's death and Sidious used that against him and Anakin had so much hate at that point that he couldn't see that.
“I am not your failure, Obi-Wan. You didn’t kill Anakin Skywalker. I did.”
Trash dialogue
Anakins hate for the Jedi was justified. That‘s the only reason he turned to the dark side. Now they go with this Venom-like second personality… it‘s a joke. As if Anakin has multiple personality disorder…
Corny af. Disney isn’t cannon. They’ve ruined Star Wars and our beloved characters.
I will agree that Disney screwed up SW past the point of return, but some things are pretty cool recently. All, in my mind, have to do with Vader.
And to the split personality thing, I think it’s entirely probable. If you say it’s not possible, then you’ve never heard of blackout rage. Vader kept himself alive on pure rage and hatred. When you are in a state of anger like that, you forget everything, and Vader was absolutely livid at this point.
Just my view. I hate the sequels, I completely agree there. Never saw the last one, and I never will. Only thing I’d ever consider watching from Disney is a Vader movie. However, I wouldn’t hold high hopes for it.
That's the way he copes
_”…from a certain point of view.”_
I swear that his quote made me think about his life choices along the way.
I woulda finished anakin and cried about it in the car
Underrated comment 😂
Anakin did just wipe out Obiwan's friends, all his co workers, bosses, and little innocent kids. I will end it so Anakin wont hurt anyone else. Also he is suffering quite a bit. I'll put him out of his misery.
😂😂😂😂😂
@@alexlilano1931 exactly as much as obiwan loved him it was time to go
Lol but it not the Jedi way. & Obi-Wan’s thoughts were that *he wouldn’t have been able to live with himself* if he walked down the hill & executed his (now evil) little brother
“Help you what??? You just spent the last 20 minutes trying to kill me!”
"You were my brother Anakin, I loved you"
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Vader the Pained? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you.
Qui-Gon would have been so disappointed.
Not exactly he shares his true thoughts in the books not exactly disappointed just saddened
He should have been disappointed.
1. Disappointed with Anakin.
2. Disappointed that Obi-Wan didn't finish the job like he was supposed to. Instead leaving Anakin to suffer and survive.
@@Unethical.DodgsonNah. With Obi-Wan for being a mere knight, without being jedi. A real Jedi would have been persuasive and talk to Anakin, try his best to awake is conscience again. Obi-Wan did not make any effort there. Just condemning Anakin and saying "I will do what I must" is not something you would expect from a Jedi master. Obi-Wan could fight, but he never had that sensitivity and trust in the force Qui-Gon had. He knew about Anakin's emotional instability and insecureness but still never tried to connect to him and secure him in the light side. A Jedi master should be able to feel fear and conflict in his apprentice through the force and react in time. All things Qui-Gon would have done for Anakin.
Remember Obi-Wan's response to Qui-Gon when he told him he would take Anakin as an apprentice, no matter what the council said? He just labeled Anakin as dangerous. That was already the beginning of the whole tragedy. Distrust and no real intend to help Anakin to overcome his feelings.
Wouldn’t he say “I told you so”?
Lol anakin just have what he was asking for actions have consecuencies @@Conan2403
His eyes had already turned before he even arrived!
If you go back and watch the movie, they alternated between his normal color and Sith yellow because he was so conflicted. There were moments his eyes were yellow like when he killed the younglings. But they didnt go full red until the end of the battle with Obi-Wan because he was finally completely consumed by hate.
I think it’s meant to be anakins last cry for help as he breaks through the hate of the dark side and the grip of vader
@@andrewmurray634anakin is Vader. You acting like they are different people takes all the blame away from Anakin. Who is to blame for his fall.
@@frogalex8915 You are legit not intelligent enough to watch fiction. This isn't a criminal court in the US. It's basically fantasy.
No. Anakin is NOT absolved but Vader is the thing he became. He killed everything he was in order to turn. He lived under that persona for so long that Anakin was, for all intents and purposes, destroyed.
If you aren't intelligent enough to even understand fiction, how are you supposed to fare in a comment debate?
@@Unethical.Dodgson hahaha you clearly never watched Star Wars. But keep it up buddy. Anakin made choices and those choices lead to what he became. Remind me who is the one that killed the Tuscan village?
That actually makes the "I HATE YOU" make more sense because it was intended to come after Obi Wan admitted that he couldn't help him
wow good catch
I'm glad they editied this line, out. It would have toen my heart to shreds
Haha that Lucas pic of him laughing was funny
Anakin had no chance. Obi Wan had the high ground.
The geography that he stood compared him superior
Then what about when Darth Maul had the high ground ? .... Plot armor is the proper term
@@WhiteTupacI wish I knew the link, there's a great explanation of that.
In Phantom Obi uses the exact same move to kill darth maul, or cut him in half.
So Obi wS the one who taught that to Anakin, he knew Anakin was gonna try it and that's why it failed.
@@WhiteTupacno Obi is a better swordsman that’s what it comes down to.
Did he mean “moral high ground”? I thought he actually want standing much higher than Anakin.
It’s over Anakin, I have the High Heels! -Disney 2024
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"Woke propaganda is ruining everything" ahh comment
Don't forget the strap on lightsaber
Someone’s a little sensitive aren’t they. Seeing women as main characters makes them feel uncomfortable
@@frogalex8915reminds me of when they also had " blacks shouldn't be on TV too" so it's no surprise that gay and women are catching heat over it.
But it doesn't help that unlike back then some of this writing is just god awful.
Like who in the writers room is creating this terrible dialog?
Bear in mind, a Sith would do such a thing as ask his former Jedi master for help, and strike him down once he lowers his guard. That Sith would say something like "His compassion was his weakness" as justification. Obi Wan would've known this. He would've known that Anakin had already given his heart to the dark side, and that a plea for help was not in fact the same as repentance. Anakin had already drank the poison and was only crying out as it took effect, and no help from Obi Wan could reverse that. Obi Wan did no wrong when he refused to help Anakin. He should've put him out of his misery then and there.
A true Sith would. But Anakin always had moments of heavy confliction and regret. He probably would've repented had Obi-Wan of reached out. It just wasn't meant to be though.
@@shamrock73this is pretty much proven especially one time when he’s literally crying after all the bad shit he did
Good thing Luke missed the memo on that one, eh?
That's some deep shit.
@@UpsonPrattJr.Когда он рубит королей сепаратистов
Lucas put so much thought into his stories. Now Disney is destroying them.
These prequels movies are worse than modern Disney Star Wars
@@TheMarlinlask Nah, are you high?
@@TheMarlinlasknope
@@TheMarlinlaskoh really? Everyone love prequel much than disney itself
You can see it was Anakin tried to say it but obi wan didn’t hear his cry, because of this Anakin thought he ignored his plead
When Anakin says "I have to try" it may seem like a normal thing that Anakin would say, until you remember that the Jedi dont try, they do. Which makes this scene even more heartbreaking.
Obi Wan watched his friend and brother kneel before Sidious, he slaughtered Jedi, he killed younglings, he watched him choke his pregnant wife, and then Anakin used his hatred to try and kill him. Why would Obi Wan help him?
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Because Anakin was dying, and it's his duty as a Jedi. Help him by saving his live and let him live as a cripple some place he could not hurt people (like some kind of prison or something like that) or kill him here and there, to stop the pain. Even if now, Anakin (well, Vader) is his enemy. Letting him burn alive for hours is just not human. And not the way of the Jedi.
But if Anakin dies to the fire (which I always assumed Obi Wan thought would happen) he doesn't have to be the one to kill Anakin. He may not be his brother anymore, but he still can't bring himself to kill Anakin. He never finds that strength, even with at least 2 more opportunities throughout his life. Instead he lets Anakin kill him in the end.
Pity, mercy, remorse, hope. We've been taught these are for the weak when the opposite is true. He truly failed Anakin as a Jedi
Tis' the way of the jedi ? Is it not ?
The scene where his todger flies off into the lava is when Anakin screams I hate you 😂
Obi-wan had every chance to help Anakin and every time Anakin reached Obi-wan failed him.
Obi wan was there for him whenever Anakin needed him.
He knew about Padme but didn’t expose Anakin to the Jedi.
It’s not his fault that Anakin has negative IQ and literally trusted a Sith Lord who betrayed his previous apprentice.
@@paperplane-db8qf Read the lore buddy Obi-wan screwed Anakin over as a mentor. Prime example look at how many times Anakin wanted to reach out to Obi-wan and he didn’t listen or how many times he down played Anakin. Or how many times he ignored obvious signs of Anakin over stepping bounds
@@TheWeezyflylol no, Anakin was just arrogant and consumed by pride, and fear
@@SL92018 Yes and no
@@TheWeezyflyyes, no disscusion
No GL wussed out and didn't want people to view Obi-wan negatively. Really it would have shown giving into the darkness and allowing Anakin to die a horrible death not knowing Palpatine would arrive to rescue him. Now Obi has to live with the horror of his brush with the dark side, the monster he created, and whether he could have saved Anakin on Mustafar at his weakest. God the tragedy of Anakin Skywalker would have been even more dark.....
Anakin went crazy and broke the trust of everybody as far as I’m concerned I would not even get near him you don’t know if he’s gonna try to kill Obi-Wan . But I kind of understand now why he constantly wanted revenge against Obi-Wan in the future
I thought his eyes were already red by that point
Yes, the current "I loved you" is after his eyes changed and when he calls him his brother. The removed dialogue would have been before the eyes changed, around when obiwan steps back and holsters his saber.
Yeah I thought his eyes were red before obi wan even showed up
Pretty sure they were already changed before they fought. It's been a hot minute for my watching the movie though.
@@cloud101787his eyes seemed to flash the sith yellow when he was particularly in the Darkside like when he sacked the Jedi Temple and killed the younglings or killed the Separatist leaders on Mustafa. They seem to lose the Sith yellow when speaking to Padme and Obi-Wan on Mustafa but them go full Sith Yellow sunburst with red outer layer when falling into the lava and screaming his hatred of Obi-Wan
I also thought they changed during order 66, I had to check. I was wrong! They infact do not turn yellow until this scene when he's lying on the ground with his limbs cut off. While going back to check I noticed something else though, Yoda's eyes are yellow too! Wtf? 😄
It also implies that he would’ve protected Anikan and Padme’s relationship, if Anikan had told him. Because he’s already broken the Jedi code and had an attachment to Anikan. Which would be a gut punch when Vader realize’s it.
Arguably Obi Wan did know about Anakin's relationship. Theres a scene in the clone wars show where he almost walks in on Anakin calling Padme and Captain Rex trys to cover for him by lieing and stopping Obi from going inside, but Obi simply says tell padmé i said hello and leaves. This implys that Obi isn't stupid and was aware of their relationship the entire time, he just cared for anakin and trusted him so ignored it.
@@gajilly Yoda also knew about their relationship and refused to try to bring it to an end. He concluded Anakin would almost certainly leave the Jedi order if anybody tried or succeeded at ending his relationship with her, and that it was something that made him happy and he needed it.
Anakin was always on the brink of caving to the dark side, he even taps into and uses it multiple times prior to his full acceptance of it, like when he used it to defeat Count Dooku on the invisible hand in Revenge of The Sith. Yoda knew this and wanted to do everything possible to prevent him from fully giving in to it, he wanted Anakin to use it as sparingly as possible and remain on the light side of the force, only drawing upon it for additional power when absolutely necessary, much like Mace Windu.
@@arthurfleck629this is why mace windu should’ve trained Anakin
@@Topg924 that would probably be the most deadly duo bro I stg!
@@speedreaper666 fr Anakin was already a top tier duelist. Training with windu would make him unstoppable and we know that windu uses the both the light and dark side in his fights so it’s basically Anakin but with complete control of the dark side while not becoming a sith. He’d also have been a much better father figure than obi wan
Anakin Skywalker had already turned to the DARK SIDE.
You mean what would have made this scene more heartbreaking.
They should have left that in
Nice touch putting Darth Vitiate's theme in this vid, one of the best Dark Side themes since the Emperor's Theme from ROTJ.
That “help me master” jolted me a bit then, almost like a child asking a parent
If this wasn’t right after he killed 30 children I’d almost feel sorry for him. 😢
I mean he also killed an entire community of the Tuscans. Including the women and children. Anakin was a bad dude for a very long time.
@@frogalex8915 Nah, the Tuskens deserve it. You can't hate the Tuskens enough.
@@xSilentZeroXx Truth.
It makes sense why they cut it. If Anakin cried out for help , it would've made the denial of any good left in Anakin really bad , as that would be a VERY CLEAR sign. And would make Obi-wan and Yoda look much worse. Futhermore it would've probably created a misconception of the Sith and created fan sympathy. The way it is in the movie is better.
Not really. It would have given a better and more clear reason why Obi-wan always seemed to have a guilty look when thinking about Anakin/Vader. He feels guilt about his friend, and his part in turning Anakin into Vader.
@@GyorBox ya hay razón más que suficiente, el era su maestro y la promesa que no pudo cumplir a Qui gon Jin
I posted this on an edit of this scene but I'll do it here, too.
A lot of people say that Anakin's "I hate you" sounded so real and genuine, but I never agreed. To me it always felt forced. At this point he still loved Obi-wan, you can see it in his face when Obi-wan is scolding him... "You were the Chosen one... destroy the sith not join it..." Watch his face closely in that scene. Anakin is regretful, sorrowful. He didnt hate Obi-wan but he hated what Obi-wan believed in, he hated the Jedi council, their code. It was this scene where we really see Obi-wan come out and truely express himself to Anakin, that they were brothers and did love each other. Thats why when Obi-wan leaves him to die does Anakin truely hate Obi-wan, as he was abandoned by everyone who ever loved him, betrayed. Obi-wan turned his back on Anakin when he needed Obi-wan most.
From that point of view when Vader says "I am what you made me" its way, way more impactful, because Vader is right. Obi-wan's abandonment is what pushed him over the edge to the dark side.
Which makes why he changed back to the light even more organic, because for the first time in his life somebody sought Anakin out to express love and compassion. What he had been chasing for so long, the one thing he really wanted. Acceptance.
Yeah, he was just pissed and in a lot of pain. He was still childlike. They were more like Father and Son, not brothers, though OW said that.
This is later confirmed by the fact that when he was wearing a helmet, he says: Padme help me. When Obi-wan gave up on him, he was looking for someone who loved him, Padme in this.She was the last person Anakin could hope for. But she died, too, so what happened happened.
I used a translator from Russian to English, sorry for the inaccuracies.
@jamesb8193 I've always looked at it as an older brother trying to fill the role of a father.
By all means, obi-wan failed him regardless.
But if he was never given the task of being Anikins master, he may not have ever turned.
Like OP stated. Everyone he ever loved and trusted was either taken from him or abandoned him. Turned their backs on him for various reasons. No WONDER he turned btw.
But Obi-Wans failure was exponentially more inpactful than the others. He couldn't stop seeing Ani as this child who wasn't ready. Much like someone who raised a child would feel, but they fight and bicker as brothers would.
His brother, mentor, father figure, friend.
Losing all of that in one go is enough to send most people over
I Approve of this change... Could you imagine, this was about as grotesque a deed as could ever be done, there should be no remorse for letting him burn😡
I believe it's why I get so emotional watching that scene from the Obi-Wan series. The moment he apologized to Anakin--for "EVERYTHING" 😭💔
I have the novelization the opening and this scene kill me every time
The opening is a monologue on the age of heroes how all of courascant is terrified because palpatine has been kidnapped and how much hope springs when anakin and obi wan appeared
Every one on the comments sympathizing with Anakin forgetting this scene was a couple hours after he massacred couple hundred children
Yea and you probably voted for a baby killer
And he had murdered multiple entire Tuskin families before that.
And had just finished his attempt to kill padme and obi
True, but let's be utilitarian. Had Obi-Wan saved him, he could have at last deprived Palpatine of a loyal follower, thus reducing further death toll
@@user-dm1xz5yq8f”obi-wan thought Anakin was dead to him” there was no saving Anakin..he had already passed the point of no return. Obi-Wan was not there to save Anakin, he was there to destroy Darth Vader. (It’s not the Jedi way to execute an unarmed criminal) Vader only survived because his hatred fueled the dark side and sustained his spirit
they were going to have an anime villain hero monologue. obi wan was going to explain in detail with cut scene aids on why the high ground worked, while anakin was burning, and anakin was going to curse himself said he could have done something else. obi wan will then reveal that he has another trump card up his sleeve so the stuff anakin was going to do won't work either
And also that probably drove anakins hate more for obi wan and the jedi. It really solidified it. I can see why George didn’t go that route
It’s amazing how many people are defending Anakin here.
It says a lot about our society now. They blame everyone except Anakin for what Anakin did.
Fascinating.
Agreed. Foolish people who sympathise with evil.
Everyone cheers for the criminals now
Sympathizing with his situation and saying what he did was right is two totally different things.
BRO!!! YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICES THIS! People today choose the side of those they want to like. Not the side that's right. They do this all the time now.
I have noticed a person being insulted, then when that person snaps back in defense, everybody stands against the one who was first insulted.
THAT'S where our society is. It's not about right or wrong anymore. Its about popularity and who people CHOOSE to forgive.
You and another person can do the exact same thing. They will toss you out and forgive the other person for NO OTHER REASON than they have nice hair.
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Yeah but his situation wasn't bad enough to do what he did. It was just horrible writing.
Holy shit, I would've cried
Obi-Wan: “You were my brother Anakin…I loved you…but I cannot help you.”
Anakin: “…I HATE YOU.”
Wow that FK'D up..... This makes what anakin did to obi in his series when he dragged him through the fire gives more meaning to it. Excellent video
I know this is all fantasy land. But Anakin was a child murderer, amongst other very evil things, he got off light. But again, to each their own.
He was manipulated and mind controled by sidius.
@@notjohncena6492Not exactly. He didn't want to lose anyone else, and since he saw the hypocrisy of he Jedi he would do anything to protect those he cared for, but he found no support even in his worst moments, causing him to snap, and after the death of his wife, despite everything he did to prevent losing everything he found he did regardless.
Ironically enough, if he reached out for support(after his mother's death) from padame or obi wan right before the death of windu, this could have been prevented, but for whatever reason at this point he didn't trust obi wan.
Sidious took advantage of the hive mind mentality of the Jedi, but the Jedi were at fault for their hypocrisy the last straw.
@@notjohncena6492
Note:
Anakin constantly predicted threats, but no one listened, and the hive mind mentality(no action unless everyone agrees) ruined Anakin's life until the death of his mother, which Anakin could have prevented if not for that stupid rule.
Mace, one of the main people constantly trying to convince Anakin to follow said rule didn't follow it himself, deciding to ignore the decision of the whole to kill palp, anyone would be angered by this hypocrisy, hence the death of windu.
At said point the Jedi had betrayed him, and up to this point he had no way of reaching out, as it went against the Jedi code.
The only way Anakin could have won is if he betrayed the code, or betrayed the council ahead of time, before their hubris killed them all.
@@notjohncena6492he wasn't mind controlled and though he may have been manipulated he was still responsible for his actions. I'm tired of fans like you taking the blame off him and acting like hes innocent
@@ven0m_spider073 he's not innocent but he's not totally blamable either.
Plus if people see itachi like a saint, vader getting a pass as well.
Depending on ip vader is a completely different person and sometimes he's just anakin but bad. In that mystery we cant blame anakin and he redeemed for that more than enough.
If obi wan forgave him and luke forgave him thats more than enough you can keep your openions to yourself.
This movie was the best of all the films
Yea I always thought in my opinion that revenge of the sith was peak Star Wars
Empire would be a close second for me but yes I agree
Bahahahaha no it wasn't. This scene was great, but there are such ridiculous logic leaps and straight up stupid fucking scenes I still can't get over it. They made Anakin into a complete simpleton and the entire Jedi Council into a bunch of morons, too.
of all star wars films? cuz if u mean of all films in general, then youre tweakin tf out XD
@@seynpurrp I think that’s what he meant lol. The “of all THE films” means of that franchise
What if Vader let Anakin “take control back” briefly just so he could feel the burns and remorse. Damn that’s effing brutal.
"I love you but I can't save you!" that made me cry
The reason Obi Wan can’t help Anakin was due to him sensing Palpatine approaching. He reasoned that he can’t carry or end Anakin without directly confronting Palpatine himself
The book by Mathew is even more, Anakin gave Obiwan a chance, to let him meditate but Obiwan chose to fight anyway😢
Why should he? "Sithism" is uncureable disease. Has any Sith turned back to good guy ever?
In legends, yes. Quite a few even. Disney canon, no.
How interesting after he slaughtered hundreds of his former colleagues.
@@timppaUT Darth Vader literally does this.
I'm glad this was edited out. Far more believable for Anakin to be so consumed by hatred and pride, than to think he would ask for help from Obi-Wan while at rock bottom. If Anakin had actually asked for help in this scene, and Obi-Wan refused him, Obi-Wan would forever be dead to me.
Help me master" would have been too heavy. It would've made Obi's rejection that much harsher.
I lost the respect of Obiwan after seeing how he really thought of anakin during the obiwan kenobi show amd episode 3
What r u talking about? There is only the movies 1-6 and the extended universe.
@@user-ez7qw3io2uthere is a whole series about obi wan and also a series of mandolorian
What did he thought of anakin in that show?
highground...HIGHGROUND....HiGhGrOuNd !!!!
YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY POWER!
@@RealComfyNerd H.I.G.H.G.R.O.U.N.D. !.!.!.
This is probably my favorite scene of any movie, so powerful.
I think the saddest part is these two super hero’s fighting all of a sudden ends with “I have the high ground”
Obi Wan should have saved Anakin and brought him back back to the light with Ahsoka. Padame would not die of sadness if Anakin hadn't gone dark.
If it hadn‘t been that the OG trilogy was shot before, it could probably have happened, but they weren‘t going to alter the story. What I could imagine though would be „What if?“ like with Marvel, but for Star Wars
@@drc6912Exactly. Eliminate Darth Vader altogether, and destroy all previous films in a series as they just become totally irrelevant.
Because of the original trilogy, Anakin's fate was always sealed. Even if it was out of character for Obi-Wan to just abandon him knowing that he should be saved, the original trilogy had to happen. Had Anakin been saved right then and there, there would be no OT in the way it was made. Anakin had to fully fall. He had to fully be abandoned by everyone. He had to become the near irredeemable Darth Vader that he ended up ultimately becoming. An alternate timeline as some of these other comments suggest would be absolutely goated though. I would love to see sidious suffer knowing that he lost his pride apprentice that he's groomed since a very young age.
@@steelrideproductions371 I know!!! But it's heart breaking and you can't blame me for wishing it was different. Hits even harder after Clone Wars!
@@irisflorals9561 No. I don't blame you. I fully sympathize with you. But that also further embodies the heart and soul of the prequel trilogy. It was always supposed to be heart-wrenching and full of decisions that we wish that we could have changed. We as the viewers don't know the internal clockwork of the events that the films stories portray. It's a lot more complicated than that. Put yourself in Obi-Wan's shoes, and you just watched Anakin, your former apprentice just slaughter all of your friends and the closest things that you had to family in the Jedi Temple. In your heart, you know what must be done. You might hesitate, which Obi-Wan technically did by not actually delivering a killing blow to Anakin on mustafar, but you feel betrayed. You do what you feel like you have to do. Now us the viewer don't know the depth of the emotions that the individual characters have, but we can speculate and we can also make fun theories and alternate timelines! That's the beauty about Star Wars. We can make fan fictions and it was heavily encouraged by George Lucas. A lot of fan made projects were actually made Canon in Legends. So why don't you go on and write a fanfic? Maybe an alternate story where Obi-Wan doesn't just leave Anakin? I would read it. I'm sure many of us would. If you were talented enough and had skilled friends who could act, you could even make a very compelling and story-driven fan series.
Except his eyes turned red much earlier in the film
Yeah when he's fully immersed or tapping into the dark side his eyes turn yellow.
I think it went back and forth throughout the fight but it's been years
It was blue during the whole fight
They were only red during his slaughter of the separatist leaders because he actually hated them. He didn’t have sith eyes at any other point because he didn’t want to kill the Jedi and only when he did Sidious rewarded him and allowed him to kill the people he wanted to kill for years. After he kills them his eyes turn back to blue and he cries as he regrets killing the Jedi and younglings. Even during Obis duel with him his eyes remain blue until this scene
when he wasnt conflicted between the light and darkside. the whole fight against Obiwan, Vader's eyes are blue,so he was conflicted/weakened but when Obiwan didnt help him, his conflict was gone for this moment because of his suffering and his hate for obiwan
"You were my brother Anakin, I *loved* you."
Almost always makes me cry
One of the best scenes I think in a movie so much emotion between the fight that was just had and his confusion on right and wrong and the eye color change 💯
I keep wondering what would've happened if he did help him out of there and helped him to keep the dark side at bay
Definitely should have left it in.
I loved you, you were like a brother to me Anakin.
They are so good at directing these movies!
He still could have been saved. If only he would have been loved at the last minute. That is truly heartbreaking.
I mean.. he just killed a bunch of kids.. I think that "Help me" ship sailed..
@Doggyps3 Oooooooo....ouch. I forgot about the kids. That ship did not just sail. That ship sunk. Lol.
@@Doggyps3Not just kids order 66 is partially his fault too he did help the emperor
I understand what Lucas may’ve been going for here but I think it was a smart choice omitting the extra dialogue. Anakin nearly killed all the Jedi and assaulted not only his master, but his own wife. He was too far gone to deserve any help, much less ask for it.
Actually, to me at least, it would make a whole lot of sense for Anakin to ask for help out of fear. You don't simply develop the character to go down with the consequences of your actions on the spot without significant impetus.
Obi Wan not helping him due to the things he has done, understandable and believable. And it gives further motive for Vader to hate him into the future, so it works.
I imagine a panicked and fearful "Help me, Master!" as he desperately tries to prevent himself from sliding into the lava. But Kenobi looks down, says "You were my brother Anakin. I loved you. But after what you have done, I can't help you.", then somberly walks away. Then Anakin would slide down further with a look of despair, and yell "I HATE YOU!' as he starts to catch fire.
As usual when no one objected George, we get what we got...
The fact that anakins eyes change first after being rejected is the truly sad part. Becouse it means that obi-wan in fact could still help him.
not first time, they had changed before temporarily during his earlier actions.
Best Trilogy
1st} Original trilogy
2nd} Prequel trilogy
I still dont consider the new trilogy as canon/// its a fanfic for me... :P
The new trilogy is absolute ass, completely ruined the story of star wars for me, I just pretend there are the original 6 movies.
They should have done 10,11,12 then did 7, 8, 9. That’s why they sucked.
@@donnyosrs8282 same
Anakin crashed out completely within the span of like 4 days 😂
Them nightmares being projected into his brain did him in cuh
I think that is somewhere similar to dookus exekution where they were both incapacitated and the old masters thought of no more use by kepping them alive
I am what u made me-vader
Anakin's eyes turned Sith red after he killed the Vice Roy, long before his fight with Obi one
Rewatch the movies man. They flicker in and out of sith yellow. Hell even in this short you see it happening come on now
Did you know that cutting off limbs is frowned upon by the Jedi order. Not killing your opponent immediately, thus allowing them to suffer, is considered to be dark.
So obi wan dipped into the dark side to beat his old padawan, damn
@@eclipsethefox4397 Once with Darth Maul and again with Anakin.
And both returned to try and seek revenge.
Obi Wan is a maverick Jedi same as Qui-Gon.
@@Admiral_tintin Nah, Obi-Wan killed Maul with that move. Maul never came back nonsensically in any TV shows, nope.
@@xSilentZeroXx 😂😂 Well depends I suppose if we follow the lore or who owns and distribution of the franchise.
I never noticed Anakin's pupils were changing back and forth during the high ground scene until now
" Rejection never dies. It becomes the catalyst in all emotions to
be that very identity in Revenge ".
Wonderchek III. . .
The thing that makes the scene more powerful is the thing that isn’t actually in the scene? Cool.
Yes
Warm
Sith eyes are yellow not red
They are yellow in the middle, but they have a red outer edge. And some sith eyes can have red around the pupil as well so either color is pretty interchangeable when talking about sith eyes.
I know it was set in stone that Vader was coming. But its crazy that Obi Wan wouldnt help him OR finish him off.
the line was 'You were my brother, Anakin! I loved you!'. I never heard what this says the line was.
With all he did, maybe it was here mercy, love and the knowledge that Padme was okay might have brought him back to the good side. He did horrible things out of fear of losing those he loved, like with his mom, but there was still good in Anakin.
The Jedi created Darth Vader
No shit, Sherlock!? Aren't ALL Sith Lords former Jedis!? :D
@@timppaUTno they are not
@@notoriousjtizzle Name a few that aren't?
@@timppaUTDarth bane. Darth nihilus. Darth maul. Darth zana. Darth sidious. Shall I name more?
@@timppaUTsomething tell me you dont know a lot of star wars mmmm
This movie was a true masterpiece rather you say so or not, incredibly powerful
Hands down the gratest villain origin in cinema history
Obi-Wan's mistake was not pushing Anakin into the Lava.
To borrow from another series:
"Do not be so quick to deal out death and judgement. Even the very wisest cannot see all ends."
Had he killed Vader, Palpatine would have never been stopped. Anakin needed to remain to fulfill the prophecy.
@@patjacksonpodiumnah cause luke would’ve been born so there’d be still be hope.
and much less jedi would’ve been wiped out due to the lack of vader
@@aidanmills6570 There's no way Luke takes out Palpatine. No chance. Especially when his training is as thrown together as it was. And for whatever it's worth, by the time of the Vader/Obi Wan duel, most of the Jedi who were gonna die in Order 66 were already dead.
Obi Wan killing Vader would have just ended up making it so The Chosen One would have been unable to fulfil the prophecy. Would have done nothing but make a bad situation worse.
@@patjacksonpodium Luke has literally been shown to surpass Palpatine bro.
I lost all respect for Obi Wan in this scene. First of all, he resorted to CHEATING in order to beat Anakin, pulling out that Sith inspired lightsaber strike. Not to mention butchering your opponent is expressly forbidden by the jedi, yet Kenobi is always doing it. Second, why didnt Kenobi finish him off? Or at LEAST pull him away from the lava. With limbs missing, Anakin was no longer a threat, so why add insult to injury and allow the lava to consume him? He had to know the lava wouldnt kill him, just add to his suffering. If Kenobi had either finished Anakin off, OR pulled him away from the lava, i would still have respect for him.
Because he couldn’t bring himself to kill his defenseless brother. Because the Jedi were all but extinct, so the rules were a bit gray at that point. It was literally kill or be slaughtered. You’ve never had to fight for your life and it shows.
He couldn't kill Anakin because it would have broken canon :P.
It was war, anakin became a very great threat and needed to be stopped at any means necessary. He was never going to stop hunting the jedi until there're all extinct.
Obi-Wan didn't even want to fight him, but he was left with no choice. There were only 2 master left at that point, and no other survivor jedi could have else gotten the job done except yoda or obi-wan.
The reason he didn't finish him off cuz he still loved him like a brother. He didn't wanted to kill him but he knew anakin had to be stopped. So he let fate decide if he live or die after severely injurying him.
Some may argue that if he did help him, he would not be Darth Vader after all.
The second Qui Gon died this was all destin to happen. No one on the council trusted Anakin from the beginning and Obi Wan was put into a bad spot having to train him so young. Obi Wan did the absolute best he could in training Anakin but the problem was Anakin needed a father figure - which was what Qui Gon was going to be. And when you look at what Anakin went through it’s hard to blame him for falling into Palpatines trap
I always loved how his eyes turned red in the same shot.
Funny enough, this line was actually included in the video game based on the movie
The lines "I am what you made me" and "Anakin is gone; I am what remains" now have so much more meaning.
With the excluded dialogue, you now see that it was the sense of abandonment (later interpreted as betrayal in his cognitive dissonance) that finally pushed Anakin over the edge to fully embrace the dark side.
This scene makes me cry everytime