HOW TO MAKE YOUR RIDING LOOK 2X FASTER! (almost) [english motovlog]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
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press here to skip to the sample videos: 11:00
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the Motobasterds RAW: • Yamaha R1M on the Sust...
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The most important lesson to learn though is that once your video got compressed by TH-cam it will look like crap - no matter if you've been using an ND filter or not...
But especially when you take a look at the scenery and the green bits in the side by side comparison you should see the difference. Personally I think the "smoothed" results with ND filter look more cinematic while the ones without filter will deliver more of "documentary style" - images.
It's also quite funny to notice how the ND filter manipulates the colors of the video image a bit. Even though it's called "neutral" density... Usually ND filters come in different steps/strengths, dependent on how much light they block (= how dark they are). The darker, the more it'll manipulate your colors. Unfortunately it doesn't say anywhere how many stops the PolarPro filter has. Yet another reason why I'm suspecting them not to be exactly the highest quality filter products out there...
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Their description at least sounds a lot more promising regarding decent quality!
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Unfortunately I can't even remember where I got my GoPro to 52mm adapter from. I bought it a long time ago. I think it was Amazon. All I remember is that it was dirt cheap. But as you can see even the PolarPro version I was using for all the sample videos still does the job. Even if it "handles" a bit nerve-wracking. Here's what I bought from PolarPro:
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audio: ZOOM H1 (see the tutorial video: • HOW TO IMPROVE YOUR MO... )
edit: Adobe Premiere Pro CS6
Color Correction: Filmconvert
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jump times for quick comparisons:
Honda CB500:
11:00 - 2.7K/25fps - SuperView - with ND (scaled down/protune ON/no correction)
12:47 - 2.7K/25fps - SuperView - without ND (scaled down/protune ON/no correction)
Africa Twin:
13:35 - 2.7K/25fps - SuperView - with ND (scaled down/protune ON/no correction)
Multistrada:
14:21 - 2.7K/25fps - SuperView - with ND (scaled down/protune ON/no correction)
Honda CB500:
11:18 - 1080p/25fps - SuperView - with ND (protune ON/no correction)
13:08 - 1080p/25fps - SuperView - without ND (protune ON/no correction)
11:42 - 1080p/50fps - SuperView - with ND (protune ON/no correction)
13:18 - 1080p/50fps - SuperView - without ND (protune ON/no correction)
12:14 - 4K/25fps - NO SuperView - with ND (scaled down/protune ON/no correction)
15:12 - Side by side comparisons
Hi, do you have the exact settings for 11:42?
Thank you
@@Flaffi78 Huh? I didn't make this video. I just put a timestamp comment near where the on screen captions show up.
@@josephcote7702 I know but I thought you also might know the settings ;)
Ok, so now you demystified the go pro filter accessory that makes you go faster. Now, what should I buy for a go pro to increase the lean angle?
an old CB500 and patience will help with that :)
and good tires!! :P
You just need a UV filter
A pair of balls. LOL
i'll definetly try it!! Thanks schaaf!!
awesome! You're welcome!
4 years ago, Majes was here :O
Al final lo probaste?
1080P50fps superview wth ND filter.
thanks!
What ISO-setting do you *normally' (sunny day) use to get the shutter speed you want?
max 400
Ok, thanks! :)
Yes I'm glad more people are finding an appreciation for cinematic motion blur! Great video!
thanks man
Skip to 11:00 if you came here to see some spirited riding ;)
I use a Lee Filters "Lee Bug". Pleased with the results, although no videos on here just yet. www.leefilters.com/index.php/camera/system-gopro
thanks for sharing!
Very kind to share your tricks with us instead of doing a secret out of it.
I like the ones with 25fps, Superview and ND filter the most! I like 50fps too but it's more for slow motions stuff I think and when you want that sharp look.
yup! Thanks for the feedback!
Wide angle + ND filter looks amazing omg
thanks!
Thank's man ! I've just ordered one now haha ! :D
1080p50 sv with ND ;)
thanks for the feedback bro!!
Very interesting vlog. Personally I liked the 1080 25fps with ND, the 50fps is killing the ND effect
thanks for the feedback!
1080p 50fps, superview, with nd, protune on, no color correction was my favorite!!
thanks Luke!
I agree... Thank you Schaaf for sharing this, now I will always know when its "speed up". Also your riding with ND filter looks like superbike racing on Isle of man, freaking insane :-D
:D :D :D
Wow Schaaf, thanks for the tips, just tried them this weekend and it really made a huge difference for my own ride video!
Definitely 2.7K/25 fps- superview with ND looks the best on your channel, keep on riding my friend.
thanks a lot, glad I could help!
16:00 is amazing with the ND filter on.
thanks
"1080p 50 fps, superview with ND" looks the best in my opinion, but your riding looks fast with every setting anyway, and all these settings are great... Nice to see some footage with the Africa Twin & the Multistrada at the end :)
thanks my friend!! :) This autumn we'll have lots of RAWS to enjoy for sure :)
So grateful for the many tests you've shared!
The Hero5 allows ajustments of the shutter speed in the Protune settings (the minimum one being equal to the framerate used).
I'm not sure if using a ND helps lowering the shutter speed even more. I might try to see that later but for now, thanks to your video, I went for a ND blender to darken the skies that too often get blown out.
I've taken a Tiffen 0.6 ND blender but the effect isn't strong enough for a bright sunny day (just 2 stops). It's probably good for when it's overcast but a 1.2 should be better when the sun is out.
thanks so much for sharing your insights!! Yes the ND indeed will help lowering your shutter speed quite a lot more. Unfortunately I still don't know how many stops the PolarPro crap has.
Great advice for newcomers and season GoPro users. ND filter at 50fps seems nice. You also forgot to mention that having the ND filter will help the GoPro not to blow out the white balance. :) Good vid dude.
IMO the GoPro's doing a worse job at exposing correctly WITH the ND filter. But it's definitely tolerable!
Why sticking to 50fps? Why not going with 60fps? The 25fps for eu(pal) and 30fps for usa(ntsc) standards were set for old analog television (because of many technical limitations - and images were interlaced(half-images), the output in most editing software was inherited because they were originally used to make analog tv content). We don't have to stick with those, but I see lot of europeans go with 25 or 50. I go 1080/60 and 120 for shorter clips I know I want to slow down later.
because most regions in the world use PAL. Because 60fps can lead to flickering problems when filming in artificial light. Because European productions always get shot in PAL resolutions and framerates.
I tend to agree. However, I think in digital production PAL/NTSC/SECAM standards are obsolete legacy and will be ditched very very soon.
The artificial light flicker may also appear on 25/50fps, but it is more visible on 60 due to refresh rate discrepancy of frame sampling on camera and alternate current feeding the lights (in eu). In theory, the phase difference should always be the same so you would only get brighter or darker lights - not flicker, but in reality you get the flicker from any classic incandescent bulb - it is only less visible if recorded in eu on 25/50. For pro shots, make a test run and replace the bulbs on the path before shooting the ride. :D :D :D
To be honest, I´ve expected the filter to make more of a difference. For me, the main advantage was that the scenes with ND were less washed out.
Still, it's really cool that you share these things, instead of keeping them to yourself. Not only this filter, but your audio setup, your camera settings, your render settings, nice :) .
and I really appreciate the fact that some guys appreciate me sharing these things :) The effect of the ND filter also suffers quite a bit from the heavy TH-cam compression. The difference is much bigger with the uncompressed files.
Schaaf
Yes, I always wondered whether big companies have some agreement with YT that lets them use more bitrate for their files.
Recently, I´ve gotten really lazy and just edit my videos in Avidemux, avoid any re-encoding and only change the container for convenience purposes. With this setup, the hit by YT compression is quite brutal :D .
I even asked TH-cam partner support whether big channels get lower compression. They said no. I don't believe them. I'm using the best possible render settings according to TH-cam and it still looks like shit. Of course images from DSLRs and more professional cameras will always look better and less compressed on TH-cam than the eversharp actioncamera stuff but if we take a look at the GoPro's channel for instance...
Always wondered why so many big channels got these mindblowing GoPro Footages...
But it seems impossible to do.. :(
1090p 50fps with ND filter looks: ahhh, nice for my eyes, but for your fast rides on narrow roads close to stuf and in and between traffic, I feel more "on board" and exposed to your ride without the ND. It kinda have a more profound emotional effect on me with the sharp no-ND filter frames. But maby it's just me... :-)
thanks for the feedback Brian!!
You make an interesting case for using on-camera filters instead of doing this in-post to trick the hardware into using a different shutter speed. except I'm not sure that it's entirely true.
On the Drift Ghost, you could achieve a similar thing by dropping the Exposure Compensation (EV) to -1.
In terms of making things smooth, you can achieve this by dropping to 24fps, or shooting at higher FPS and then exporting out to a compressor at 24fps
you can use exposure comp on the GoPro too but that doesn't work in bright and sunny conditions. Too much light. You'll need an ND filter
I'm in England, we would need some sunshine first for that to ever be a problem ;-)
ahahaha touché
The best way for me to look my riding to be 2 times faster would be to ride faster, I suppose...
Can I ask you something else? I love the sound of your video's. You use a Handy recorder. Where do you put it to get these crazy sounds, without any wind noise? And is this device connected to the Gopro or do you just edit everything together afterwards?
th-cam.com/video/ne8b8DING_A/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the video and the rest of your videos! One question, I always use to record in 1080p and 60fps. I´ve just ordered the ND filters, so, I need to reduce the FPS to 30, right? Any other way the ND filter effect will be removed. Is it right? Thank you man!
It won't be removed but it will be less noticeable
@@Schaaf I will test it. Thank you and congratulations for your channel!
Thanks for the tips Schaff 🙏🏻
Welcome
like a BOSSSSSSS, great riding man. just shows its all about the rider not about having the best bike
thanks man!
1:00 HAHAH :D Geil! :D
stimmt doch ;)
Great stuff man. I actually have 2 SRP ND filters, with the 55mm adapter for the Standard Hero 4 case. They're ND 4/0.6 (2 stops, allows a quarter of light through) and ND 8/0.9 (3 stops, allows an eighth of light through). I'll make a motorbike side by side comparison video when I have the time.
awesome!!
Still waiting for the comparison
I've always hated that blurriness at the edges of the video though. My Sony AS200V does it (even at 60fps with no filter) so it's horrible if you want to take any screen grabs and it gets even worse in the dark.
not only an amazing Rider also a great movie maker 👍👍👍
very well explained
thanks a lot Sam!! Much appreciated!
Gestern kam mein ND Filter an. Hab mich auch von Motobasterds inspirieren lassen :D Wird die Woche direkt mal auf der Nordschleife getestet :) Hab jetzt aber den von Polarpro. Mal gucken was der kann
Hammer!! Ich freu mich schon auf die Videos! Das Teil von PolarPro funktioniert gut genug, würd' ich mal sagen :)
Schaaf. Vielen Dank für dieses Video. Hab bei deinen anderen Videos gesehen, dass Du ND 8 filter verwendest an sonnigen Tagen. Nutzt Du auch andere Stärken und wenn ja unter welchen Bedingungen? Vielen Dank und Gruß
eigentlich nie. ND16 könnte man aber verwenden, wenn die Strecke hauptsächlich in der Sonne liegt.
Klasse! Danke für die schnelle Antwort. Dann werde ich mal mit einem ND 8 anfangen. Die Videos sehen wirklich deutlich geschmeidiger aus mit ND Filter. Keep up the good videos & Schönen ersten Advent!
So you mount the camera without the waterproof case? Do you use the 'frame' mount? Thanks - great video, and gopro tip :)
yes I do!
Schaaf I have a question if you don't mind... I have the Multistrada but can't find a good place for my GoPro, helmet mount is a little bit too high as I can't mount it on my chin and the suction cup will only work on the sides of the bike. Should I go for a cheap full face helmet which can mount on the chin?
no please don't sacrifice your safety for your filming. What kind of helmet do you have?
Schaaf Shoei Multitech, it's old, but still in good condition. I have mounted from the side, low down, near to the jaw line. The problem is that the GoPro is not level, it's on the same angle as the curve of the helmet so I need an extra joint to straighten the camera so it is upright. I've ordered a mixed bag of parts now so hopefully the 'elbow' mount will allow infinite adjustment of the angle. I have also ordered the XCSOURCE 58mm adaptor with an ND4 filter :-) can't want to try, I just hope I can get the GoPro straight.
once again I'm here looking for this examples, thank you so much, 12 years of being a photographer and I'm still learning thanks to guys like you. What is your favourite setting for youtube and do you change the settings for Instagram stories?
thanks man. I use Premiere Presets for TH-cam exports and I don't do Stories
FINALLY! Someone in the motovlogging game who's showing the differences of using different video resolutions and frame rates! I'm a Brit vlogging out in Saudi Arabia and I've been using an ND2 or ND4 filter on my GoPro since I started out here as it's always sunny and there's a lot of light reflected off the desert - never thought about how that would influence the video in terms of shutter speeds etc. though I'm still learning. 👍🏻
Now Sub'd too. 😎
I'm very glad that at least some folks are able to appreciate what I'm doing here :) Thank you very much & welcome to the Club!
Schaaf Every day's a school day. People starting out need to learn from those who know what they're doing. Cheers. 👍🏻
It's funny you released this just after GoPro came out with the update where you can control shutter speed and iso. So you can set it to a low shutter speed in ProTune, although you still need a ND filter if you're riding during the day otherwise everything is blown out.
yup!
loved the second setting the most!
or the first one u use when riding the second bike
thanks for the feedback!
Hi Schaaf! I am probably only one who vote 1080p/50 without superview and ND on. I dont like superview, because image its too wide for me and geometry its just not right. Anyway i like your videos very much! They are one of the best in TH-cam and surely most funny videos about onboard motorcycle drives! Look at Road Trooper videos, his camera setup is for me best.
thanks a lot for the feedback!!
Thank you very much for your advice. I have learned a lot and hope to improve the quality of my videos. Greetings from Madrid.
awesome! Greetings from Vienna!
I always liked superview because it makes the edges of the road flow past more which gives a better sense of speed. I have a tough time calling which I like better though. Either 1080p/50fps without filter or 1080p/25fps with the filter.
50fps gives a smoother picture which on TH-cam works better in my opinion (youtube compression sucks when it comes to speed) but 50fps with the ND filter is too dark for my taste. However I like the color balance of the ND filter at 25fps better compared to 50fps and no filter and you don't lose a lot of the smoothness at 25fps because the filter is on. In the end I guess either one works for me :P
awesome :D Thanks for this great feedback!!
1080/50 Rockt sieht am schärfsten aus
danke!
hab mir auch nd filter bestellt... heute mal getestet.... 1080/50 ND4 alles aus protune an auf flat weissabgleich auto... alles viel zu hell sieht aus als würde man nen monitor kontrast volle kanne hochdrehn...
ja, wenn man ProTune verwendet, muss man nachher in der Postproduktion halt auch was machen. Ist durchaus so gedacht :) Wobei der ND-Filter die Helligkeitswechsel etwas langsamer macht, da kann man nichts dagegen unternehmen.
With the latest firmware you can adjust the fps too. So say (of course) you go for the minimal ISO and are filming at 25 fps, should you manually set the shutter speed at 1/50 as per the rule of thumb (or any other shutter speed) or just leave it on automatic? I can imagine that for somewhat switching lighting conditions like on a motorcycle it would be best to just leave it on auto to prevent over/ under exposure
I always used automatic!
Thank you for sharing ur setting. This is a Great help to me.
welcome!
I'm going to be difficult and suggest none of the settings that you've used in this video... kind of.
I personally think that 25fps with the ND filter looks best (I'm a fan on the traditional 24fps film look), however I suspect that the quality would massively benefit from being filmed and uploaded to TH-cam in true 25fps as opposed to the 50 you've used here. The bit rate that TH-cam uses for 50fps probably isn't actually that much higher to what it uses for 25fps, so the footage would likely look better in true 25fps due to less TH-cam compression for a similar bandwidth. This, combined with uploading in either 2.5K or 4K for some super sharpness should look great.
Either way, I'm sure your videos will still look great!
2.7K & 25fps looks a lot better on TH-cam indeed. I filmed a couple of RAWS in this resolution this year. Soon you guys will see them :)
Thanks for this! Yes I didn't dedicate a moment to think about and was just annoyed the go pro killed the sense of speed of my rides so certainly this will help also never worked the protune guess need a more powerful Mac :) but if one puts the filter over the gopro as I read then issue will be wind noise so another mic is an option mute the clip. The one that you had over the transparent housing was not good enough? The ND examples were taken with which one the ugly one from beginning or the second you showed?
the ugly one! It works well enough but it's a bit difficult to handle.
Beautiful riding, bud!
thanks bud
1080p / 50fps / ND filter looks awesome!
thanks Clement!
Thanks for the tip! I always thought my recordings looked a little slow eventhough it was pretty fast (for me) great to know thnx Schaaf!
thank YOU for the comment, Rick!
Old video that i've just discovered but still very interesting as a noob, thanks ;)
glad I could help!
well, the only wisdom about ND filters i have are:
- never use "variable" ND filters, because your pictures (or video) will look "striped" even if you are not a pixel peeper.
- always use the "slim" versions, and if you are using a wide angle lens (or even anything below 35mm equivalent), then use a slim step-up ring and use a filter 1-2 sizes bigger than the original filter thread on the lens to avoid vignetting as much as possible
nice way btw to trick the gopro :) thanks for the tip (i'll tell my mom&wife the vacation videos look so fast, because of the ND8 filter :D )
ahahaha looking at my recent RAWs I recorded in Italia I'm also glad I can bring the ND filter excuse ;) Thanks a lot for sharing your insights, Dan!!
Holy balls, that first one with the ND filter looks SOO fast! I shall try this method. Thanks
welcome!
Thanks for the tutorials. I’m gonna try an ND4 on my GoPro 5 session tomorrow morning. Hoping I lose some of the glare and gain some pro blur.
Best of luck!
I bought the polar pro after watching the Motobasterds vid (which is a great RAW!) and yeah, I'm not too impressed either. It's hard to get smear free and has also picked up a couple of scratches/chips that are visible in the footage. After only a couple of uses, too, which is a shame. Need something harder wearing for high-speed use!
thanks for your insights, Travis!!
soo, you did not say which ND Filter would you recommend, ND4, 16.8?? ? Thank you!
ND8
Servus, möchte mir gerne auch einen nd filter bestellen. Welchen würdest du empfehlen? (Von Stärke ND4 bis ND32) oder kommt das auf die Bedingungen an? Gruß
Ich verwende immer ND8 :)
@@Schaaf super, danke dir! :)
this is amazing video! Thanks so much! yeah 50fps 1080p nd filter looks great
you're welcome mate!! Thank you!
Nice video, time to go buy some ND filters!
Do it!
Just checked out the linked R1M video.... they never posted anything again after that? What happened to them? 😮
Probably they have better things to do (jobs, wives)
Quick question, do you change your shutter speed or do you just slap it on and use auto?
Auto!
I hope in future video's we will here knee sliders scraping, as wel as pegs gotta love the sound!, thanks for the tips very usefull!
always depends on the bike. Filmed another Daytona RAW for example this year with massive slider noise ;)
please upload asap 🐒
will do. But ASAP in my case means not very soon unfortunately.
A video from Schaaf is worth the wait.
Du solltest mehr vlogs machen! Du redest keine doofen Brei sondern kommst beim Thema direkt zur Sache. Darum sind deine vlogs auch immer so interessant. Wäre super wenn du mehr solcher Vlogs machen würdest. in deutsch Englisch ist mir eigentlich egal :D
ahahaha du bist der erste, der das sagt. Ich wiederhole mich eig. ständig und möchte an meiner "inhaltlichen Präzision" arbeiten. Aber bei diesen spontanen Vlogs kann ich das leider nicht wirklich verhindern. Aber danke vielmals für das Lob :) Im Herbst möchte ich, so fern es die Zeit zulässt, tatsächlich ein paar mehr Vlogs aufnehmen.
Love the grossglockner sticker in the tankbag xD
well spotted :)
What great tests! Awesome comparisons. To me I prefer 50/60fps, with or without ND. It's smooth and you ride very fast anyways :) I feel I experience your rides better :)
thank you :)
Damn, your riding skills are sick!
thanks man!
what did you do to remove the crackling in the audio?
I shot video with a gopro on the top of my vehicle. But I need the video looks slower. Any solution?
I had a feeling that the R1M/Sustenpass video inspired you for this ;)
So far, I haven't used my ND filter for the GoPro much. It's not so easy to use for my car videos since I have multiple angles and one of them is in-car. I haven't tested it but I'd say the in-car footage would look strange with a motion blur effect.
But it works great for motorcycle videos!
Thanks for the comment my friend! Yea in-car I definitely would not use one either
And then it would look odd switching between blur and no blur images. But on a bike it gives you this tunnel vision effect, which works superb!
btw, I can see now how that Multistrada issue happened ;) I'd say that's the quickest (and going by km/h, not blur) a Multistrada was hammered on roads like these. Usually that is a bit of a mid-life crysis bike for the Touring Gentleman. Not the speed junkie ;)
I'll have to heavily use my censoring skills whenever I hit 4th gear with that thing ;) And you're probably right with the touring gentleman. It's probably why that one Italian biker approached me at the end of passo Giovo where I was waiting for my friend. I overtook that dude and - instead of complaining like most Austrians would do whenever they see me riding - he gave me a pat on the shoulder with two thumbs up and a couple of enthusiastic Italian words I unfortunately didn't understand ;) Gotta love Italia!
With your riding it might be easier to tape something on the speedo :p
Maybe it was Italian sarcasm and the was jelling at you ;)
hahaha no no, his genuine smile couldn't be a sarcastic one ;) I'd love to tape the speedo but then the word "Vorsätzlichkeit" comes into play and I think that's never a good idea from a legal point of view.
Thanks for that. Very interesting! I'm going to look for an ND filter now, although it will only be an excuse to give me some blur.
;)
Hi , quick question..if I leave shutter speed on auto with nd filter , is that going to have same effect or I need to change the shutter speed manually using filter . Thanks
Auto works!
Hey Schaaf, very informative & interesting video, I just have a question: do you leave protune on so the ISO is locked and so you can trick the camera more effectively, or does the ND filter achieve the same effect without protune? Thanks in advance
I leave ProTune ON!
and max. ISO locked at 400
Schaaf ok, thank you. But do you know if the effect would be the same with protune turned off?
in light conditions, yes. In darker environments (like riding through forests etc.) probably not that much (because the GoPro would simply crank up the ISO)
Nice tip! I need to add this to my SOny!
do that!
Thak you very much for that informative interesting video... I can use the for mtb downhill pov as well
excellent!
I'm with the 1080P50fps superview wth ND filter team :). Got me some ND Filters a view weeks ago after watching my partially bad looking footage from the last trip to the Alps. Didn’t do much testing yet, but wonder if there's a rule of thumb on what strength to use?
since I don't know about the strength of the PolarPro one I unfortunately can't help. Yet.
Do you still use the polar pro filter nowaday ? (if yes, did you bought a second one because of the usury ?)
haven't got the money for upgrading these days so I still use it, yes
Schaaf well.. if it still work it is ok😄
Hey im not did i already mention or not,but
you were mentioned in my video like 4 times. i tested this and its amazing this filter
just in case, if i did not tell you this month ago not sure. (color correction was in order)
Cheers!
glad it worked for you!
Servus :) wollte fragen was für einen Filter du bei 13:35 zB benutzt hast? Also Nd8 oder Nd4? Danke dir schonmal für die Antwort
servus! Leider gibt PolarPro nicht an, welche Stärke der ND-Filter hat :/
Oh Okay Danke trotzdem ;) und sauber gefahren (Y)
Nice demonstration.
thank you
Any resolutions superview 25fps with ND filter so f*cking sick!!
Thanks
@@Schaaf hey man, can i ask what did you set your Iso min and Iso max to. also if you set the shutter speed to auto and color to flat? your video look clean and smooth. Thanks
looks good, i want one too now!! ride safe!
thanks, you too ride safe!
Moin, 1080p50 mitm ND Filter sieht bombe aus - soweit ich das mit meiner Bambusleitung, dank der ich sowieso nur auf 720p gucken kann, beurteilen kann :D Ansonsten cool, dass du uns den Tipp mitteilst, bin mir sicher das viele das Dingens zumindest nur im zusammenhang mit DSLRs und Fotos kannten. Falls du mal häufiger Vlogs machen willst, guck bitte das du am Mic was drehst! :)
Bambusleitung :D :D Ja, in Zukunft verwend ich wieder mein altes Mic-Setup!
Sir Schaaf, may i know what settings you use in protune when you have your nd filter equip in gopro hero 4? Thanks in advanced.
All stock with ISO locked to 100
@@Schaaf thankyou idol schaaf
Thanks for the video ! Do you go on auto or manual shutter speed ?
Auto!
What bikes were the other 2 showed? And will you upload a complete vid of them?
1996 Africa Twin and a 2016 Ducati Multistrada Enduro! Of course I will but it will take a while!
I think you are able to set the shutter speed on the new GoPro Hero 5 aren't you? Which settings would you recommend there? And is a ND filter still better?
yes you can choose the shutter speed. But then you'll need an ND filter even more. I thought I made that clear in the video. Apparently not :D Sorry for my bad explanation :D
Schaaf I understood it like that: the ND filter forces the camera to use longer shutter speeds - so if I set a long shutter speed I don't need the ND anymore or did I get you wrong? :D
Falls du Deutsch kannst, können wir auch gerne auf Deutsch schreiben :D
oh ja, sehr praktisch. Das hast du schon richtig verstanden. Aber wenn du die Kamera nun länger belichten lässt, dann lässt sie auch mehr Licht auf den Sensor fallen. Dein Bild wird bei sonnigen Verhältnissen und bewusst langsamerer Shutterspeed dann einfach komplett überbelichtet sein. Und deswegen musst du dann erst recht einen ND-Filter verwenden. Der lässt viel weniger Licht durch. So, dass die Kamera auch mit den längeren Belichtungszeiten KEIN überbelichtetes Bild liefert. Stattdessen aber korrekt belichtete Bilder mit wesentlich stärkerer Bewegungsunschärfe :)
Mit welchen Einstellungen nimmst du im Protune Modus auf (1080p 50fps mit ND)? Editierst du im Nachgang noch die Schärfe bzw. machst Colorgrading? Ich versuche schon lange mein Videomaterial zu optimieren, aber gerade bei Farbe und Schärfe habe ich extreme Probleme - Ich nehme aktuell alle "Nativen" Einstellungen der Gopro und versuche in der Post alles zu editieren (Leider meist ohne Erfolg)
ProTune ist bei mir auf schärfe Med, color FLAT und WB native. Ich schärfe aber nicht zusätzlich nach bei der Arbeit mit filmconvert
thanks for the nd tip
you're welcome!!
What shutter speed is used with nd filter or is it set to auto?
I always use auto
11:43 1080/50 with ND Personal favourite. I dislike high motion low fps.
thanks!!
Wie immer top....wo bist du denn hier gefahren? wo ist die Strecke? danke
danke! Hier: www.google.at/maps/dir/48.2078031,16.0640943/48.2130215,16.0515215/@48.2086383,16.0521137,16z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!4m1!3e0
Curious why your encoded youtube video is 1080p-50fps and you said that you setup the gopro to record at 1080p-25fps.
I probably was talking about the RAW videos. I film all my RAW videos in 25fps
@@Schaaf So then why double the frame rate at post when you're going for a film frame rate of 25fps? It just doesn't add up to me, maybe you could explain? Thanks.
I don't get it either. Dont you lose quality by doubling in post production? Maybe he wants to save on memory capacity needed. He likes the 25fps cinematic look I think too.
Do you set the shutter speed on manual (2xfps) and then apply the ND or do you leave it on auto?
auto!
Protune ON = GoPro colors or FLAT?
yes
@@Schaaf umm, which one? 😅
Seit dem neuesten Softwareupdate der Hero 4 kann man die Verschlusszeit doch auch manuell einstellen...ist das nicht ein bisschen einfacher als sich extra einen ND-Filter dafür zu holen?
was passiert wohl, wenn es draußen schön hell ist, und du eine lange Verschlusszeit wählst? :)
Hi Schaaf, did you notice any vignetting?
nope you usually only get that with the cheaper models
13:52 rear wheel lock from downshifting? Also what bike is that?
yep, 1996 Africa Twin
What have you set your iso and shutter to? Thanks
100 and Auto
Just came across video and love it.. but I can’t see in the comments which one you personally like???
Take a look at my recent RAW uploads and you'll find the answer in the video descriptions :)
Shutter speed set to auto or 1/50, 1/100 in your case?
auto!
@Schaaf is stabilisation on in these videos?
nope
You are so funny lol. I will have to try one of those filters, thanks for the tip!
thanks ;)
Nice video! Thanks :D
I think i likes the 1080p 50fps, with ND best (Y)
thanks for the feedback!
This might be a silly question, but how do you guys mount your cameras?
I'm using this setup: th-cam.com/video/tRQ4OobrCMw/w-d-xo.html
Thanks! :)
Do polarized filters achieve the same effect?
nope! They usually reduce reflections and in case of the gopro they make the colors "pop" a little!