DLC Classes and Who Should Use Them! Fire Emblem Three Houses Wave 4 DLC
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Me: Excited to make Lorenz a Valkyrie
*Realizes the class is female only*
*cries*
Same bro I trained him in flying in preparation for the update and then I was very disappointed to find it was female only
@@banbanthebandit4002 Dude Valkyrie is a mounted class... I think you're mistaking it for the Dark Flier.
Frank Wong I was after a dark flier but yeah I didn’t make that clear.
@@banbanthebandit4002 you can make him a wyvern lord
@@sylverflores3433 my Lorenz was a mage using lance for coverage, I could not get to wyvern when I’m already at chapter 12 of VW.
Dark Flier Lysethia is going to be amazing and having a Warp user that can fly....
Could be pretty powerful. Is it better than having a second warp though?
@@nathanharris8896 I never really found myself using the second Warp all that much, so for me it's not really gonna make much of a difference
@@survivorlast1171 Yeah, I could kinda see that perspective. You only need one warp to cheese a lot of maps and the extra move gives some flexibility.
@@nathanharris8896 late reply but if you recruit linhardt you get to use his as holy knight
@@alexcavazos3341 linhardt is best staying in bishop.
I cant wait to see their timeskip design
It didn’t even occur to me that they’d get timeskip designs :0
@@shinelokabrenna saaaaaame. I only realized this while reading this comment
Rumor is they aren't getting time skip designs, I hope it's not true
@Weston Meyer but... Many characters don't get postimeskip designs soo...
@Weston Meyer i really hope they get redisigns, EVEN THE OLDER ONES, and flayn shouldn't wear that uniform 5 years later, i hate it.
I think Annette will be a great candidate for DF. You get the same perks as Wyvern Anette with the highest move possible for her rallies, and the bases and growths will attribute to her armor slaying well along with Excalibur nuking fliers.
Definitely going war monk Lysithea for aura knuckles memery.
I loved doing that.
L.Y.S.I.T.H.E.A. was born for a lifetime in the Leicester Alliance
I did this with Annette, it was insane. Literally did 45 x 2 damage on everything even in Maddening.
War monk Dorothea was awesome, even if it took forever to do
Trickster's finger gun animation justifies itself.
I hope the Ashen Wolves became playable on the main game after we finish their side story
@Daren Fliflet I did some digging, if you recruit them in the side story, you can use them in the main story
Certain chapters unlock certain Wolves
you probably already know this, but just beat the side story and then you can recruit em pre timeskip in the main story ;)
I can't wait for Lysithea's new class, Dark Flier. She's going to upgrade to a Lockheed AC-130! I can already see this being the next Meta. Alert Stance, High Avoid Battalions, etc. will make her untouchable. Black Tomefaire? Lysithea never needed Dark Tomefaire to nuke enemies.
Valyria Lysithea. While she won't be able to fly over obstacles at least "she'll become the best sniper the world's ever seen above the best sniper the world's ever seen." - Alpharad. Thyrsus + Class Range + Skill Range + nuke damage = One shot, One kill.
And then being Stride... I can't even right now. I want Lysithea's classes now.
Trickster Lysithea not sure but still going to master it.
War Monk same. Going to master this class too.
I'm glad I S+ all of her skills and mastered all classes. So many abilities unlocked.
Trickster is really good just to class into when Lysithea is about to level up. +15 dex and +20 speed growth is huge. Puts her three main stats at 60 mag growth, 75 dex growth, 70 speed growth.
Dude I cannot wait for this DLC I already bought the DLC pass today, I need these classes like rn
I definitely agree with a lot of these points, but i want to add my own input:
Trickster - Anna would definitely like to utilise her better physical offense (even though it’s kind of bad.) and still have access to her faith spells. It can also work well for a mixed manuela build since she’s bad in reason, but i would say there isn’t a need for Dorothea or Marianne to go here rather than MS if you want them to have mixed offense, since their Reason lists are getter then Faith for damage dealing and Ms has a better Str modifier from what i have seen. Byleth would probably work but Enlightend one is probably a better class in general so it might be better to stay there for swords and faith unless you really want locktouch.
War Monk - No disagreements here. Female brawlers want this. If you want brawler byleth but don’t want to train the axe rank for WM/choose female then it would be good for them too.
Dark Flier - Same with WM, it’s just going to be really good on anyone, and these two have the perfect proficiencies.
Valkyrie - This is where i have the biggest disagreement. From what I’ve seen Valkyrie only has 6 movement, so when compared to Dark Knight it actually seems worse in a lot of ways since their range will actually be the same, DK will just have to be closer. It obviously has its uses which i will get to soon but I definitely see Lorenz being better in DK since the tomefaire greatly improves his damage that he has in other magic classes. But Valkyrie would be great as an advanced class for him. I would argue the same for Hanneman who you didn’t include, since he is good in riding and reason. He is also better in DK since it basically has the same range due to its point of move. Valkyrie is probably a really good class for those who struggle to meet the requirements for DK since A riding is really hard for people not proficient in it, so Hubert, Lysithea, Dorothea etc. might just stay in Valkyrie for a while.
My favourite of the new classes is definitely War Monk. We finally get a female brawling class and i’m looking forward to Hilda punching people to death while chanting her name.
I think the biggest advantage with Valkyrie is that it doesn't require Lance rank. And dark knight requires both riding and Lance. So the price for entry is steeper for dark knight on a LOT of mages who can't afford to train so many weapon rankings. Valkyrie is a great middle ground and even a nice final class if you don't want to waste time training up a Lance rank for dark knight. Obviously this doesn't matter for Lorenz but other mages won't be switching between Lance and magic during combat and prefer to stick to reason magic only.
As soon as I read it; my mind automatically played “Hildaaaa, Hilda”
“Valkyrie has less move than Dark Knight so it’s worse”
Well lucky for you, my friend, the dlc classes are all advanced classes, so you can naturally make that promotion
Isn't Valkyrie and Dark Flier female locked tho?
@@Nodnarb59 Dark Flyer is gender-locked, yes, but from what we found "Valkyrie" doesn't seem but it could change.
War monk Mercedes. Make use of her neutral in punching, give her some extra move, aura knuckles for damage, and bolsters her awful str while still keeping her as a powerful mage
So looking back, this isn't as good as I'd hoped since war monk only gets half charges on magic
This seems like a good plan in theory but I’m pretty sure that wouldn’t work
Too bad they’re male-only
@@Mike-zp2co War Monk? No they're not.
@@jerichtandoc7789 I realized my mistake. Although technically it's called war cleric.
In maddening, where all thieves have pass and most physical unit can OHKO player's healers or mages, trickster shines as the ONLY CASTER WITH STEALTH. Anyone who runs assasin knows well how stealth alleviates the issue of defense and resistence. And besides that they both have some excellent growth modifier and bonus. Would surely see this as one of the powerhouses.
I'm planning on running Ingrid as a dark flier. She has the stats to be a mixed attacker, a strength in flying, and her spell list isn't terrible. Falcon Knight is probably still optimal for her, but dark flier seems like a fun alternative (especially since I typically only play on hard so don't really worry about what's optimal).
Same, she’s a great physical unit but imagining her having that spell list on top is nice. Plus I loved any and all magic fliers so that’s bias
Her black magic spell list isn't all that great, but she gets physic and seraphim, any physic is welcom and seraphim destroys monsters it also is a pegasus unit in advance class
Even if you do plan on ending in Falcon Knight, I could see this being something worth taking as an advanced class, since it loses nothing from Pegasus Knight. Depending on how her Str and Mag grow up to level 30, you can then decide to move on or stick with it. Though, I suppose B+ Reason is a bit steep if you're not planning to keep a given unit a caster.
@@Shalakor it actually has better growths than pegasus knight 5 more hp and 5 more res so it could be a good to go to that one but getting her to wyvern rider would be better because she needs the strength
Have the data miners figured out yet what type of seal is needed for certifying in the new classes, does anyone know? If it's just a regular advanced seal then it wouldn't be too big an investment to train reason up to C+ and just accept having the 40 or so percent chance of passing and repeating until you succeed. If it's a unique or hard to find seal of some sort (similar to dark seals), then the cost becomes way higher for anyone just planning to dip in along the way to Falcon Knight.
I had to pause in defense of Marianne. LOL.
Marianne (I personally feel) is one of those units that can shine in any class you put her in if you know how to build her correctly.
First playthrough - magic tank. (like better than ingrid - whom i also love), with gremory.
Second-third playthrough - dancer. it capitalized on her sword strength and magic spells and made her fast enough that you could actually leave her behind (as dancers wont to do) and she could totally take on a lot of things on her own.
Fourth playthrough - Falcon Knight. Marianne actually has a good enough dex (as seen when she uses magic) that she can trigger crits A LOT. the extra speed and avoid only served her well, and she and Ingrid were amazing together.
Fifth Playthrough: Swordmaster give Marianne a wo-dao + give her swordfaire, and sword crit, and she enters EVERY BATTLE with a minimum of 75 percent chance to crit. and - she can dodge a tone because her speed (growing up as a thief/whatnot) is great.
Sixth Playthrough: Magic Assassin. Slap on the Magic staff , fiendish blow, and magic bow, and marianne is good to go. again. just give her bow crit and she's good (if you don't even wanna do magic and go with the killer bow - go for it).
Her spell lists are rather good. and she often crits with them, i feel more so than a lot of other magic mages. (probably due to her dex - and not counting Lysithea). but i feel unlike a lot of units who are good/okayish in other classes, Marianne tends to shine. (but i totally acknowledge my biases LOL)
Her magic crits surprised me. For some reason I never noticed how high they were in my Golden Deer route but I started paying more attention during my Blue Lions route. She can be a monster if she gets the right levels.
He said she has no unique spells but she has silence which I don’t believe any other possible mage has! Correct me if I’m wrong! I just love Marianne since my first play through!
@@matteopereira9584 Manuela has it as well.
I've used Marianne as a Holy Knight, Dancer, and Mortal Savant; and while she was good in the former two, she was amazing as a Mortal Savant (for me at least)
For reference: Noble --> Monk --> Mage --> Myrmidon --> Swordmaster --> Mortal Savant; Levin Sword+ and Blutgang + access to all the spells she can learn.
ZimonZieClown uhhh I would have never thought about that I might just try it!!
I am planning to have Raphael go War Monk. Not the most optimal, but I've wanted to make Raphael into a beefy Healer since I first saw him.
Anna is a no-brainer candidate for Trickster. Every playable iteration of her has been one, a sort of fragile but fast unit with around equal strength and magic, even if neithet are particularly amazing. She makes for someone who can make use of the Magic Bow or Levin Sword. She even has a Trickster outfit/portrait in this game. In Awakening her class used swords and staves and in Fates it used bows and staves. This game's Anna sorta combines all of that and makes her good with swords AND bows as well as give her some white magic. Now, her spell list isn't great, but she's most potent with magical weapons anyway. Plus she gets access to Rescue and Foul Play, which are absolutely busted pseudo-Warps. She can pick off enemies in player phase or alternatively keep some allies safe while opening doors and stealing treasure. Amazing option for her.
This is such a helpful video, thank you!! I am super excited for dark flier, that was always my favourite FE class.
Ingrid gets matching str and magic so Dark Flier looks great for trying Magic based Ingrid. I'm looking forward to that.
How did it go?
Dark flier: Everyone.
But especially Ingrid. It would be *sooooo nice* to go monk>Mage>Pegasus Knight for darting blow if necessary>Dark Flier. Her physical attack has always proven mediocre when I've used her, with her magic being right on its heels.
Probably going to have Ingrid and Byleth as Dark Fliers the moment they're able.
Just wishing there were a master class MaligKnight type class with axefaire so that I could ave all the wyvern goodness whilst also having Edelgard casting spells.
Maligknight would have also been the only magic axe class for Annette and her Crusher.
Totally agree about Ingrid. My entire BL run I spent feeding her Levin Swords as a Peg. Knight. She had basically identical Str/Mag stats my entire playthrough, and never really had a chance to take advantage of either to their fullest extent.
same I also thought about Ingrid, can´t wait to make her a dark flier
Malig knight would be mental in fe3h
Annete, Edel and Hilda could all make use of it
I'm really looking forward to Trickster and Dark Flier! War Monk baffles me, since aside from Byleth, there are no characters in 3H that specialize in both brawling and faith magic. It would have to be a compromise for anyone who wants to spec into that class. My best choices would be Mercedes (neutral in brawl, strong in faith) Caspar (strong in brawl, neutral in faith with an interesting spell pool) and Felix (same as Caspar, but with a better magic stat.)
And Valkyrie just frustrates me. It's just Dark Knight, but with spell range buffs instead of stat boosting skills. It's extremely redundant to me, because anyone who would do well as a Valkyrie would do just as well as a Dark Knight. I guess it's like a precursor to that class? I would have rather seen something that fills a missing niche, like a Spear Master or a Kinshi Knight.
Chaosdude7111 kinshi knight would’ve been cool! But what makes me mad is that they didn’t bring back Gryphon riders- they had them in Awakening, and a Gryphon is seen on Faerghus’ banner so, I better see some damn canon gryphon riders, better add them in the next dlc if they make one
Chaosdude7111 an advanced pegasi class would be nice bc i dont want to make ingrid into any of the advanced classes when going the pegasi route
@@pauldejesus3537 wyvern works great as an advance class for her even if you want her as a falcon, but it is annoying getting that axe rank up.
I know this is very late tp write but Valkyrie Lysithea with Thyrsus is a fun 5 range black magic user who nukes every so far away. For now I have enjoyed making her that.
@@icyplayer1194 Another very late post, buy I'm thinking of running an odd combo of Linhardt as a war monk cause I have Dorothea/Flayn handling healing
1:02 This is Illegal, nobody could crit at 0%!
Wait... You're right!
Good thoughts. Here's my plan:
Dark Flier: F!Byleth, Marianne
War Monk: Hilda, Raphael, (Sylvain)
Trickster: Ignatz, Ingrid
Valkyrie: Lorenz, (Sylvain), Lysethia
Can't decide if I want a War Monk or Valkyrie Sylvain but probably Valkyrie.
Sylvain always wants lances for Swift Strikes.
Imagine a DLC where another continent attacks you
The closest thing to that was Walhart in Awakening
@@KhaiNguyen-ru7lk yeah, thanks for reminding me that
I had my Sylvain use reason and he was pretty good but I was sad he couldn’t use it when I made him a paladin but maybe Valkyrie class would be good too
I mean you could of made him a dark knight? He destroys pretty much everything as one.
My Sylvain got screwed on his magic when I went mage for him. I’ve since put him back on a dragon
Can we get a follow up video to this now that the DLC is out? Also what are the best classes overall for the Ashen Wolves?
These seem great, I'm secretly hoping there are going to be a few new classes in addition to these but I know that probably wont happen. I just really want a spear master class.
I hate that if you are a male Lance user not named Dimitri you have to go paladin. If you're female at least you have pegasus too
@@hajoeijgenraam295 Yeah. The job changing system is full of stuff like that. If they are going to go with this customizable units rout in the future, I would want them to go the FE 9 and 10 rout where classes are not locked to certain weapons. Have unit type and weapon type be separate things you train. I kinda want them to do something like that, but I also kind of want them to get rid of class change altogether sense it kind of makes all the units feel the same.
Minekings101 but, but there was nothing cooler than seeing your myrmidons become litteral gods when upgrading to dread fighters in Echoes...
@@lightbrand_ When I said get rid of class change, I didn't mean getting rid of promotion. Promotion is pretty good and I would argue perfect in games like Echoes. I just don't like Awakening/ Fates/ 3Houses where you can change from a myrmidon to a mage. It isn't as big a deal in Awakening/ Fates as it is in 3Houses, but I still think I prefer the GBA style classes and Echoes.
I’ve done dark flyer and Valkyrie Ingrid, actually worked extremely well!
I always turn my Sylvain into a mage and I feel like he would be amazing as a Valkyrie (the cavalry mage)
Too bad its gender locked to female
It's gender locked tho
Try Dark Knight then
Trickster was one of my favorite classes in Awakening
For a whie noe I've been hoping they'd add dark flier because I want to try it on Ingrid. I like her spell list, but prefer her as a flier to a rider.
I think Anna as trickster is a no brainer given that was her class in Awakening.
Yuri looks like a even gayer Claude mixed with Leon
Well it's in the name
I’m perfectly straight and I am gong to marry the fuck out of him. It simply makes sense, in fact I believe it to be my duty as an FE player.
@@mylesobrien7477 Same he pretty
Appearance-wise he looks a lot like a fusion of Ingrid and Lorenz!
Legit thought he was a female leader which would've evened out the starting female/male leaders.
@@mylesobrien7477 I’m gay and while Yuri is not my type (I prefer guys like Claude, Dimitri, Sylvain, Dedue, and Ferdinand) I heavily considered marrying him as mByleth, but decided not to haha
With Anette I wanted to mix it up so she went mortal savant, but I changed her to a Dark Flier and she is amazing as one.
I've just bought the game and the dlc, just curious how this will affect the first play through.
I think annette can also make use of dark flier. It would give her some much needed mobility to fly around and crush people with her relic.
Dark flier has a really valuable 10% speed growth as well. Lysithea can trade some raw power to be able to double enemies in some modes, especially with Swarm. Mages never had a chance to boost that before in 3h. Also, Galeforce might be possible.
Mage knight has horse stuff hindering it, but for especially for male mages it gives them almost as much power, while being able to keep up with the group and able to snipe from handy spots. If Lysithea doesn't want to lose power and focuses her magic nuke duties she also does great in here. It might outshine the master class, and it's a great class to enter even after going warlock/bishop for a while.
Both of those classes just allow for a much faster paced magic offense then possible before. If they need grounded doublecasting, they can just reclass as they need to, as they will have the needed proficiency for anything but warlock anyway. Gremory is also still a option since the advanced classes look a bit superior to the dark/holy knight for some units.
If Galeforce is the other skill, then Dark Flier is the optimal class for pretty much every female in the game.
@@lcpunkrawk Except Edelgard. She gets more raw power as a wyvern lord, waaay more defenses and she already has a better Galeforce with her weapon.
Still got my 4th playthrough on hold, guess its time for the church run recruiting these. Is it possible to do this after skip you think? Or will i have to load a 10 hour old save? I'll even replay from scratch if i have to.
You do the abyss mode which has a different cycle entirely, doesnt even use your save file as it has it's own.
THEN when you complete S mode you can auto unlock them on regular mode.
Mundus66 if i did a church run, i would put these people into some classes
Manuela: endgame trickster, with her utility w the spells, she's such a good fit
Hanneman: valkyire / mage knight into dark knight since so far mage knight seems to be a downgraded version of dark knight with less stat buffs and less movement but more range
Flayn (if you count her as one): dark flier sounds so good for her as using rescue and healing while flying sounds so OP while also making use of good reason
Catherine: war monk Catherine if you really wanna use her brawling as it has fistfaire
@@pauldejesus3537 Its nice that female characters finally get fistfaire. But i still rather go fist on male characters as warmaster is still imo the best subclass in the game. And war monk is only an advanced class.
Lysithea + Knowledge gem to get the tombfair, haven’t gotten it yet, but just having Thyrus and Canto is lit.
Out of curiosity, would you mind doing a preliminary dlc unit analysis?
In particular, Hapi has a nutso spell list and Constance is flying Lysithea with Rescue instead of Warp.
Lysithea seems better to me. Lysithea's 60% dex growth seems useful when trying to hit with some of the lower hit rate spells.
Aquilenne and her better spd growth
Trickster Yuri with Levin Sword+ is amazing!
Valkyrie looks crazy powerful.
How about Trickster Felix? I haven’t gotten the DLC, I’m just a kid, got the game like a month ago, love it. I plan on working towards buying the DLC, but I’m curious, would Trickster Felix work???
Has war monk been confirmed to be both genders?
yes it has
Doing a maddening run of golden deer rn, and Lysithea does pretty well in both the mounted magic units, and Ignatz does well in trickster. Tried to make Raphael work as the War Monk. He wasn't horrible, but not worth it over something like War Master. :(
im defintely trying..
Trickster: Manuela, Linhardt, Anna
DF: oh god so many.. Marianne, Ingrid, Annette, Lysithea.. imagine Df Lysithea w/ thyrsus and S rank reason. 5 range on a magic flier.. im so not ready.
War Monk: F!Byleth, Dorothea?? idrk probs my least fave class out of the 4
Valkyire / MK: LORENZ, Hubert
im so excited for these classes
i was interested to see others' perspective. for my most recent run i made fbyleth, annette, constance, and mercedes dark fliers ; lysithea, marianne, and hapi valkyries; caspar(!!!) and balthus war monks; felix and yuri tricksters. i really wanted my magic classes to have better mobility earlier on, and valkyrie's requirements are so much easier than holy/dark knight. i love using felix's budding talent (reason; faith is neutral, not difficult to level) and gives him better speed than a mortal savant. caspar.......... i just wanted at least one war monk, and the other grapplers have a weakness in magic, he's neutral 😭 there's literally no other reason. would have liked to put dorothea on a mount, but she has a weakness in both riding and flying. overall not a bad roster for my run 🤷♀️
edit: in further defense of making caspar a war monk, i really don't mind more healers on the field just because. takes a while to build reason for offense as its a weakness of his, but he's a strong brawler and there are plenty of strong mages so it doesn't matter much in the long run.
Unknown ability on dark flier? Could it be...
galeforce?
The classes seems so good. However, I think we should get other master classes, or do some fixes to the ones already in the game.
Oh, is War Monk and War Cleric is basically a same class? I mean, War Monk and War Miko in the previous instalment are different, likw War Monk is melee support unit with spear while War Miko is ranged support unit with bow.
"Other than getting S+" but even if you did, that wouldn't solve the male fistfaire exclusivity since fistfaire from S+ is additive with fistfaire from class specialization. Which means that for all intent and purposes you can consider them like two different passives that just happen to have the same effect. So it's nice that we have a good class for Catherine.
honestly if the magic flying class is Dark flier i wouldn't be surprised that the legendary skill Galeforce returns that would make that class so broken and OP it's not even funny but the expressions of the characters that you picked are funny as hell and the Valkyrie class could be perfect for linhardt
Crystal sanchez galeforce is in the game just in the form of Aymr tho
@@osvaldoalcala9151 i meant not as a weapon i meant as a skill that the dark fliers get at level 10 in awakening now that the dark fliers are coming to three houses i am guessing it will come with it as well.
Crystal sanchez yeah Ik but I was just saying aymr has the effect so they can easily port it over to dark flier
@@osvaldoalcala9151 whatever i dont count weapon effects as skills.
I can't WAIT to try War Monk Hilda, War Monk Catherine, Trickster Manuela, Dark Flier Annette, Valkyrie Hanneman and Valkyrie Linhardt. I think Valkyrie is an amazing way to start off the units you want to eventually make a Holy or Dark Knight! Hilda and Catherine deserve brawling classes. I really love these new classes and them being available to mages is great, because like you said, there really wasn't a whole lot of variety in classes for mages. Honestly, every playthrough I've done with Mercedes, Flayn, Lysithea, Annette and Dorothea has resulted in them becoming Gremories, Linhardt and Marianne usually go Holy Knight and Hubert is stuck in Dark Bishop (although I did try and make him a Dark Knight last CF playthrough and he kicked major ass). I think Mercedes and Dorothea are still better off as Gremories (they're capable of taking hits), but glass canons like Lysithea, Annette and Flayn will really profit off of being able to hit and then retreat too safety. I can't wait to use Lysithea + Valkyrie + Thyrsus + S-rank Reason lmao
Hell, Trickster & the other Faith based DLC class are great, aka the one that focuses on Brawling. Both of the Master abilities gained thru them are excellent.
Ok i know i late to this but am crazy for wanting to put Claude into the trickster class since c'mon it's claude it's like he was born for this class
so far my only complaint is that the war monk is still using the base brawler animations, i was hoping that, like the mortal savant, they would have more eastern martial artsy animations. but we dont see that many attacks, so maybe there is more of that unshown.
If I already bought the DLC pack do I need buy this apart?
Nope! It’s included in the expansion pass
I think making Mercedes, Marianne and Flayn Tricksters can boost their Dex and Skill to the same growth % as Lysithea, thus making them more usable and giving you the possibility of having 4 glass cannons instead of one.
Then of course, every mage should master DF for Transmute, transforming them into enemy phase mage killers
Noob question but, if i buy the DLC have to start a new game to run the new quest and have the new classes? For the characters
Cindered Shadows is a sidequest that you enter via the main menu, it uses different save files. You just pick a difficulty and Byleth and go. After completing it, the four new students will appear in the main game, where you can recruit them.
The side story uses separate save files, clearing certain chapters in the side story unlocks certain Wolves
I think ingrid could make use of the dark flier, she has equal strength and magic as well, so that could be a way to use her magic stat that would otherwise be difficult to utilize.
Speaking as someone who is using Dark Flyer Ingrid, she can extremely well
Doesn’t Thyrsus drain Hubert’s health since he lacks the crest for it?
The new unknown skill for Dark Flier is likely Galeforce, from awakening which allows the unit to move and act again if they kill their first opponent, if that is the case, every female character should grind out DF for that skill.
Balthus kicks ass. So much strength, good speed and defense. Good supports too ( Lysithia! ) He’s very good in maddening.
I made Linhardt a war monk and Ferdinand a trickster.
My god, that combo was scarily broken
Personally, I am of the opinion that the best use of the Abyss classes is to give them to Byleth - which is why I set up a second Blue Lions game, just so I can see what a War Cleric Byleth is like - & otherwise give them to whomever they're best suited for. Which, for me, is anybody who has a Budding Talent that works with it. For example, although in the DLC Constance is a Dark Flier, when you have her in your class you find out she actually has a Budding Talent for Brawling. So, I'm making her a War Cleric. Hapi's Budding Talent is Axe-wielding, so I decided to make her a Valkyrie on the way to being a Dark Knight - if I feel like changing her out of the Valkyrie class.
The same holds true for the regular class members & their Budding Talents. Lysithea's Budding Talent is Swordsmanship. So, she'll become a Trickster before I make her a Mortal Savant. Meanwhile, Hubert's is Lance-wielding, so naturally he'll be made into a Dark Knight. Mercedes, on the other hand, has a Budding Talent in Archery, so I'd make her a Thief then a Trickster then an Assassin & finally a Holy Knight.
Things like that.
Imagine if that unidentified skill on Dark Flier is Galeforce. (Vietnam flashbacks)
Lysithea with Thyrsus. Who can fly and has Canto. And Galeforce.
Also you can't put Lorenze on a mounted class because that would take away his ability to Lorenzcopter.
What does Canto do?
@@mysterium368 it lets a unit move after attacking (or other actions like trade). This is very broken and abusable by high mobility/range units like Thyrsus!Lysithea on a pegasus.
I've come to the conclusion that I must have been extremely, mind-bogglingly lucky with my unit growths in this game. Because every time I read about a unit that's been really strong for me, it feels like most people are saying that they actually aren't very good. Like how this gentleman was talking about Marianne. I agree, that flying magic class will probably be *better* for her, but as a Holy Knight she was an absolute force of nature both in combat and as a healer in my Golden Deer run. She got crits on what felt like every other attack, and I didn't have to give up her healing.
That's the beauty of a random growth system. Never the same twice, and with a large sample size from all the units and all the runs, outliers are bound to happen, for good and for worse. Like my Ignatz with 35% strength growth not leveling strength once from level 1 to 30, but my Leonie with 40% strength growth having 47 strength at level 40. And my Lysithea has leveled up all stats on a level up multiple times, which is a 5.1e(-4)% chance
For me:
Dark flier: Ingrid, Mercedes, ANNETTE, Lysithea, MARIANNE, FLAYN.
Trickster: Edelgard, Linhardt, INGRID, Annette, Mercedes, Claude (for lolz), Marianne, Ignatz, LYSITHEA, MANUELA
Valkyrie: LINHARDT, HUBERT, Sylvain, MERCEDES, ANNETTE, Lysithea, MARIANNE, Manuela, Flayn, HANNEMEN.
War Monk: Edelgard, Dorothea, Sylvain, Felix, Ingrid, Annette, Mercedes, HILDA, Raphael (for lolz), Ignatz, CATHERINE.
I'm just waiting for someone to mention the war monk for those who decided to take Raphael through the priest line lol
Just out of curiosity, why in the world would you make Raphael a priest lmao
@@SvanEsch123 It's apparently a meme/joke with some ppl
Priest Raphael? That makes as much sense as Gremory Petra!
I think sylvain would be really good in the mounted magic class
he's a good dark knight I find from my runs, Valkyrie eases that transition into magic as well
Yuri looks like the lord of the ashen wolves. If that's true, do u think trickster is his special lord class?
trickster is for everyone
but he is the lord
sooo, no gale force?
I'm going dark flier all the way my favorite class.
Sleeping Forest Wouldn’t that make Dark Flier your favourite class? :p
@@HiddenGemCollector indeed it is,but too bad that I'm a male tho I wish it wasn't just for females.
I’m willing to bet the “unknown” skill for Dark Flier is Gale Force. Anyone who has played older FE titles should be familiar how absolutely broken that ability was and still is especially when paired up with a dance unit 👌🏻
There's a part of me that is surprised that there is so much min maxing in 3 houses. Its a very easy FE game, I never thought about it this in depth because the game never needed me too since there wasn't a difficulty barrier. Reading the comments, I'll try some of the paths people took on units, working on finishing last two routes of Black Eagles
Cylith try maddening?? first time i tried i got stuck on chap 1 LMAO
War monk Hilda, that is all
Annette makes a fantastic war monk.
Flying Lysithea? *Sign me the fuck up.*
I will use dark flier for Lysithea, the dark mage and dark bishop classes are male only and for now the only male dark magic user is Hubert, not a good idea. Non dark magic users find bennefit in these two classes, but Lysithea and Edelgard are dark magic users and don't have access to a class like that until master. The dlc is nice and I hope we get more dlc, I doubt that there will be anything anymore but I really want more
Hanneman is going to love Valkyrie. Giving that Nuke a horse and +1 ranged Meteor. From there, just grind to S for Black Tomefaire and you’re good
UltraShiko hanneman cant acces valkyrie
No Sylvain mention? He wants Valkyrie for Dark Knight Sylvain which is is my favorite build for him
Valkyrie (and Dark Flier) is female only
marianne doesn't have anything special?? As a holy knight she gets a magic scaling sword to double with, a lance weapon art that scales with magic, and sick nasty magic attack spells. She carried my first playthrough of three houses.
In the trailer yuri gets a crit but has 0 crit chance🤔
I guess they figured a flying nuke with 1-5 range and dual dark Tomefaire would be too broken. As if lysithea wasn’t broken enough already
Raising Flayns budding talent in Reason and making her a Dark Flier is the only way I use her now tbh
I thought it was also datamined that Dark Flier and Valkyrie is female locked?
From everything I have seen, dark flier is the only confirmed gender locked dlc class.
We should have gotten a magic axe class like Maligknight for the likes of Edelguard and Annette.
Whoop Some Monkey Ass that sounds more like a master class with three skills than an advanced class but u can always use annette with the axe on dark flier and i think she would still slay
i was so sad that both the mounted mage classes ended up being female only, poor lorenz, idk why they even do that just make it so everyone can be any class....
Ferdinand would be unstoppable if he could get into falcon knight. With falcon knight speed growth, and darting blow from pegasus knight, theoretically not much would double him on maddening, and in lower difficulty he would double anything. And avoid +10 synergizes with his personal skill, as does alert stance. And Lancefaire+swift strikes is stupid.
@@louiesatterwhite3885 I'm not sure he is so fast that he wont get doubled on maddening. But yea it's not a bad class for him
@@thekingofnido with his base 50% speed growth as well as speed growth boosts from pegasus line, and darting blow, the only things that would ever really double him on maddening would be assassins and enemy fliers. On player phase at least. This is all just theoretical though and I don't want to sit down and calculate doubling thresholds and how lucky he would need his growths to hit them.
@@louiesatterwhite3885 I mean even Petra gets doubled sometimes on maddening. Just saying.
@@thekingofnido personally, havent had it happen except from quick reposte units, maybe I got lucky speed growths with my Assassin Petra with darting blow.
My Sylvain is 100% becoming the Valkyrie/Strategist. A mid-tier cavalry with magic is just what he needed before Dark Knight
Laughs in war monk Annette
I made Ingrid into a dark flier and Edelgard into a War Cleric. I REGRET NOTHING.
Flayn is the best war cleric, it's actually stupid how good she is.
What about Edelgard for WarMonk? She os a buffier Hilda...
YOu could double with bolting range
Sure Marianne is an option for the 1st class, but I don’t think that can rival her as a holy knight, as for the dark flier, if it wasn’t female only I would give it to Lorenz, for me it’s a good class for Lysithea to reclass into just so you can stride, warp her into the death knight and finish the map in 1 turn, and for Hapi’s class, it’s a better dark knight and that’s about it, and for the new brawling class, it honestly seems useless
Creative Username i think war monk's pretty good if u want any backup healers that is normally focused on physical attacks. and since it's the only non gender-locked brawling class, u can get good brawling females such as catherine as one
Do you know that those classes are from fe awakening btw the Trickster is for Anna like in awakening, War monk or war cleric for lissa and libra, Valkyrie for maribelle and dark flier for aversa you are a bot #FED
I think you forgot that Valkyrie is Female only. Real bummer cus yea, Lorentz would have been perfect for that class. Why the hell they have to go & make some of the best DLC classes gender specific?
My only really complain about this is that while Trickster and War monk give us some cool new options , Dark Flier and Strategist almost invalidates every other spell caster classes in the game. The extra mobility and range is just too powerful.
246Rennie dark knight just seems like a better version of strategist from what ive seen so far as it seems like strategist has less movement and traded away the stat buffs for more magic range.
@@pauldejesus3537 Dark knight is a master class while Strategist is a advanced so it requires you to level up less stuff you don't need to get to it, also when dismounted strat is still considered a mage unit so it can move freely in sand while DK still as infantry movement penalty. Also if you are planning on going to Dark knight going for Strat as your advanced is a more natural progression then Warlock.
no Sentinel rip
So excited to finally put Hubert on a gd Horse. Wish I could make him fly too. Hate that pegasus units are always gender-locked. Thought we got over that in Fates.
Still upset no Master classes
They should at least improve the master classes we have now so they're actually sought after rather than just sticking to advance classes. Kind of sucks, cause I like to keep training classes even if they don't really go well with a build just so I'll have more options with that character in new game+ yet only a few of the master classes are even worth unlocking.
@@Draylin41 sigh
The list of good dark fliers is all the female characters with rescue warp or standard dark magic. Fliers are broken in this game. Even lysithea might be best as a dark flier.
Ingrid makes a wonderful dark flyer, she has a neat spell list, and she likes to study flying