Hands down, my favorite part of the entire series. Saving Rannoch and ending the Geth/Quarian war and having Leigon sacrifice himself will always be the most memorable part of Mass Effect for me.
Yeah. Get the geth and quarians to play together and that whole section becomes an awesome SCREW YOU to the reapers. My favourite bit is taking down the reaper on foot. It's like "I'm not running anymore"
@@Kamhi_ Yeah it made me tear a little the first time I saw it. But when you play it many times and test all the lines, romancing Tali and saving the Geth, then looking at her falling while she's crying. That was the most heartbreaking scene in a video game to me, maybe this with The Last Of Us intro when Joel lost his daughter. These scenes made me cry, and a lot.
@@RXdash78 that 1v1 against the reaper was honestly my least favourite bit.. Took me 15+ minutes to realize I shouldn't move on the last shot, so the drama had outstayed its welcome.. :D
Omg what can I say, i love this! Rannoch is easily one of the best levels in any video game PERIOD! this level was absolutely amazing especially the 2nd time around when your extra strong!! What can be said about 1:19 I mean my god!!!
this was the point in the reaper war where the galaxy said no more now stop running and start fighting and then this lone human stares down an effing reaper i love this mission
It is due to it being more important than people take on. Remember the Reapers were created to stop races making Synthetics or at least Syns from taking over. They always arrive when Syns and their makers get to the point of war on a scale that it affects the galaxy or a race achieves technolgy enough to harvest. Geth/Quarians and before them Prothean/Zha'til. What makes this more epic for me is if you are able to sway both to ceasefire then the galaxy has achieved what they couldn't before, Syns and Organics working together against a much more deadly and common threat.
*The Cliffside just after the Reaper fight* Legion: You cant kill us all! This is genocide! This is Madness! Tali: Madness? THIS-IS-RANNOCH! *Tali-kick Legion off the cliff* Legion: Doesss this uniiiitttttt *splat*
count me in, though killing him would be too much, im more of a fan of a weekly surprise beating, you know apparently the rest of the writing team complained about this but were ultimatly ignored, hence we have this crappy ending. Just google "Casey hudson to blame for mass effect ending" and you will find what im talking about.
It's very convincing to me. I felt like something was up even before the theory. The other alternative is to assume suddenly BW forgot how to write properly and made up deus ex machinia B.S. and plotholes all over the place. It would only be able to compete in crappiness of an ending with KoTOR2's ending, which was bad only because they got super rushed. You're basically insulting BW by suggesting they're liars and bad writers.
ME3 marketing division sold their´s long time ago... they intervened too much on main script so Drew said:"Fuck This Shit"!! and left. i miss Drew Karpyshyn... game lost BIG piece of it´s soul/charisma
You mean the "extended cut" DLC right... that's going to be just a bunch of bullshit for the starkid to give more bullshit reasons as to why the cycle happens.
That moment combined with this music when the alive reaper came out of that hole, it gave me chills. there are very few games who are able to give some feelings, but that moment, it was just awesome
The techno vibes we hear in this theme are similar to the ones we can hear in the Tali's theme of ME2. They represent perfectly the Geth/Quarian rivalry. Everytime I hear them, I get goosebumps.
Great mission for a final confrontation between Geth and Quarians. But if Bioware had more money, I would give a show of Reapers' true depravity - enemies called "Constructs" - a terrifying fusions between Quarians and Geth (similiar to enemies from another wonderful game "Soma") through the Reaper tech who much like Banshees which are biotic masters, they would be tech masters. They would be a final prove that Quarians and Geth both are victims of the war against the one true enemy - the Reapers.
At the intro of this mission, all I kept thinking was Shepard saying to himself: "I promised Tali a home on her homeworld, and I'm damn well gonna build it. And nothing's gonna stop me."
To be fair, I'd rather wait to see how the aftermath DLC will wrap things up. If STORY-WISE it all comes together logically, I personally will have no complaints that they didn't fuck the series up by that moment alone. It can still be wrapped up. It's only if/when that comes, the anger of if it costs and how much but also how beefy the content we're getting is and how much work was put into it.
I still think that attack that Reaper alone and in open fields was the stupidiest idea ever, in real life or any fiction story. I almost feel tempted to consider that in my canon world, Shepard was killed there.
The war started before humans even had cars and computers, and were far from spacefaring - yet the war was ended by a human! Terran Supremacy all the way!!
It's even more tragic because Legion never wanted it. Because go against what Legion says in ME2. Legion says that the Geth are fine living the way they live, and that for them, individualism is a set back than an advancement. Geth are stronger being a Consensus. I blame it on the Reapers. Legion never wanted to use Reaper technology to get individuality, but damn those stupid Quarians. If was not for Tali, I would gladly allow the Geth to destroy them.
Yes, but the indoctrination theory isn't trying to take away the goodness of what happened, it's just trying to explain why everything got so weird after Shepard lost consciousnesses. There's just too many plot holes to justify it even up to that point.
That's what people expected I bet...shit I expected to sit back and watch some spectacular Reaper explosions, then go on to get patched up and see my buddies and go retire somewhere on a beach with Garrus. Instead we get esoteric mindfuck B.S. Sigh. Still hoping for that retirement with my human-turian kids or krogan adoptees.
But consequently, it does take away the closure you get from Anderson and Tim, the only people Shepard actually has any closure with. That's my main beef with it, and the fact that if you apply critical thinking skills to it, the theory falls apart and you can see that it is just confirmation bias and wishful thinking.
This is why I don't like the indoctrination theory, which claims that Shepard never went up to the Citadel. His last moments with Tim and Anderson were good, it's just after that moment that the game needs to be patched up and fixed.
And Indoctrination Theory still leaves us with a half-finished ending that feels unsatisfactory. It might explain the weird crap with the Catalyst, but a Battle in the Centre of the Mind isn't the ending fans wanted to the games, so it's not really any better. In some ways, it's worse, because it suggests that Shep ends up fully indoctrinated in two of the three options, and the Destruction ending just gets you a crappy couple of seconds of Shepard breathing, with Reapers possibly not gone yet.
Luckily the RID theory isn't very convincing and is actually based off of faulty logic, though that might not stop Bioware from adapting it if its supporters push for it.
Seriously? Right, if we all pitch in we should be able to afford every hitman, assassin and professional killer on the planet. Lets teach the gaming industry a very serious lesson about plotlines. :P
To be honest the real culprits are casey hudson and mac walters, apparently they decided to write the final mission and ending without the rest of the team...if we could manage to get the IP for his personal computer we could use any short of method to make his life a living hell.
But at least there were advantages as well as disadvantages to each ending in deus ex. Rather than just 3 slightly different ways to fuck over everyone and everything in the galaxy.
With both Anderson and Shepard dying, while the Crucible fires it's lazor and kills the Reapers. The mass relays survive, ensuring that civilization can still continue. A good ending with high enough EMS has Shepard live and have blue kids with Liara. :D
@GrandChamp1989 It is possible that once the arms of the citidel opened, Hacket ordered a mass retreat because no one knew what would happen. Notice in the ending that there are very few ships fighting and none of them seem to be around when you activate it.
@Blub7400 I personally thought Starship Troopers, which if I remember correctly, is the same composer. Though I'll just side with you on the Robocop thing just because it's better.
@XxDasantekixX What's even more infuriating is that isn't even the ending that's bad; just the last five minutes of it. Everything in the game up to and including the final confrontation with TIM is fan-fucking-tastic, and then the end comes out of left field to punch you in the balls and steal your wallet while you're left wondering "WTF just happened?"
Oh, I really hope Bioware doesn't try and include it. I'd much sooner have an entirely new ending, implausible as that might be. Something based on their dark energy ideas.
@GrandChamp1989 not true! The mass relays may be gone, but the ships still have FTL (Faster Than Light) capability, it will just take them longer to reach Rannoch.
It's because he's being precautious as any logical being would. Shepard had a history of helping the Quarians, and they were at war with the Geth. If it came down to deciding between the Geth and the Quarians (as it did for some people) how could Legion be sure that Shepard would side with the Geth? He couldn't, so he did everything he could to slowly gain Shepard's trust while at the same time hiding data from the Quarians to ensure they couldn't just kill the Geth straight up.
@KarasawaL30 I was playing the MP as Quarian Infiltrator and everyone on my team was laughing at the Banana line. I personally never noticed it was "For Rannoch".
Hands down, my favorite part of the entire series. Saving Rannoch and ending the Geth/Quarian war and having Leigon sacrifice himself will always be the most memorable part of Mass Effect for me.
Yeah. Get the geth and quarians to play together and that whole section becomes an awesome SCREW YOU to the reapers. My favourite bit is taking down the reaper on foot. It's like "I'm not running anymore"
+Chase Benson I cried like a bitch. It was the first time ever I cried because of game/movie. Nothing ever had me brought so much empathy
@@Kamhi_ Yeah it made me tear a little the first time I saw it. But when you play it many times and test all the lines, romancing Tali and saving the Geth, then looking at her falling while she's crying. That was the most heartbreaking scene in a video game to me, maybe this with The Last Of Us intro when Joel lost his daughter. These scenes made me cry, and a lot.
Nothing ever topped Vigil for me...
@@RXdash78 that 1v1 against the reaper was honestly my least favourite bit..
Took me 15+ minutes to realize I shouldn't move on the last shot, so the drama had outstayed its welcome.. :D
1:19 sounds heroic and gives me chills. Sounds like brave warriors going into battle.
makes my mass erect ^_^
I demand that Tali get a house on Rannoch!!
-Signed every Talimancer everywhere
@Commander Shepard 8 months later and I'll agree with you as well.
Yes... indeed
@Commander Shepard I’m a Commander Shepard player, and this is my favorite Commander Shepard on the Citadel.
Im a Talimancer and this is my Favorite Comment on TH-cam
Legion: Shepard-Commander... Good luck!
Shepard: Acknowledged.
Epic moment.
"I'm through saving you"
When the greatest hero of the galaxy says he/she is done saving your worthless ass, you know you done fucked up.
killing geth... brings me back to the first game!
Omg what can I say, i love this! Rannoch is easily one of the best levels in any video game PERIOD! this level was absolutely amazing especially the 2nd time around when your extra strong!! What can be said about 1:19 I mean my god!!!
_"Don't let her down, don't let her down..."_
MASS EFFECT LEGENDARY EDITION N7
This was the most epic mission in the game, and I'm not saying that just because I love Tali
this was the point in the reaper war where the galaxy said no more now stop running and start fighting
and then this lone human stares down an effing reaper
i love this mission
It is due to it being more important than people take on. Remember the Reapers were created to stop races making Synthetics or at least Syns from taking over. They always arrive when Syns and their makers get to the point of war on a scale that it affects the galaxy or a race achieves technolgy enough to harvest. Geth/Quarians and before them Prothean/Zha'til.
What makes this more epic for me is if you are able to sway both to ceasefire then the galaxy has achieved what they couldn't before, Syns and Organics working together against a much more deadly and common threat.
The beginning is a remix of the creation music, love it
To be honest playing many romances in this game, the one with Tali is still the best.
the battle of ran nock disproves your theory
For* Rannoch* Assertion*
Shepard: Keelah se'lai!
Tali: No. I'm ready to KIL'A BITCH!
*The Cliffside just after the Reaper fight*
Legion: You cant kill us all! This is genocide! This is Madness!
Tali: Madness? THIS-IS-RANNOCH!
*Tali-kick Legion off the cliff*
Legion: Doesss this uniiiitttttt *splat*
@helmchenTN The ending also have a Deus Ex vibe. By that I mean "I never asked for this".
He dies in every playthrough old chap.
exactly :(
Legion died in my ME2 playthrough. Please don't punch me! :(
What's the soundtrack that plays right after Gerrel orders the ships to hold fire?
It may be WAAAAY too late, but if you mean the song that plays when Legion dies, its the theme for Mass Effect 1
The game could have ended when anderson said. "We did it" and i wouldnt ave had a problem with it....
Free DLC time
count me in, though killing him would be too much, im more of a fan of a weekly surprise beating, you know apparently the rest of the writing team complained about this but were ultimatly ignored, hence we have this crappy ending.
Just google "Casey hudson to blame for mass effect ending" and you will find what im talking about.
It's very convincing to me. I felt like something was up even before the theory. The other alternative is to assume suddenly BW forgot how to write properly and made up deus ex machinia B.S. and plotholes all over the place. It would only be able to compete in crappiness of an ending with KoTOR2's ending, which was bad only because they got super rushed. You're basically insulting BW by suggesting they're liars and bad writers.
Keelah Se'lai
ME3 marketing division sold their´s long time ago...
they intervened too much on main script so Drew said:"Fuck This Shit"!! and left.
i miss Drew Karpyshyn... game lost BIG piece of it´s soul/charisma
You mean the "extended cut" DLC right... that's going to be just a bunch of bullshit for the starkid to give more bullshit reasons as to why the cycle happens.
agree 100%, would ave prefered xenophobic kids with ashley but still ye :P
Alternative title:
"Keelah se'lai, Keelah si’yah”
*****
It can be that, for that's what all Quarians have been saying for the longest time, 3 centuries prior to the start of the series/franchise.
no, keelah bitch! :D
Keelah se"lai means "to the homeworld we love"
That's beautiful
@@Johnjohnson-zg4ekit is, isn't it?
For Rannoch. For their homeworld! FOR TALI!
Tali: And the rest of the Quarians?
THEM TOO!
Good man.
What a chad.
Damn proud of you.
This, I'm Sorry, and Future for the Krogan are all amazing pieces from this soundtrack
That moment combined with this music when the alive reaper came out of that hole, it gave me chills. there are very few games who are able to give some feelings, but that moment, it was just awesome
i fight for Rannoch like for my own home bec my sweet love Tali
I was confused, I thought Rannoch was the name of the reaper! XD
Actually, Tali isn’t from Rannoch
I just came to realise that this sounds a lot like the "Creation" soundtrack which plays in the beginning of the game.
+Jordan Jordanov Same composers: Cris Valasco and Sascha Dikiciyan.
Same synth riff yeah
The techno vibes we hear in this theme are similar to the ones we can hear in the Tali's theme of ME2. They represent perfectly the Geth/Quarian rivalry. Everytime I hear them, I get goosebumps.
Great mission for a final confrontation between Geth and Quarians. But if Bioware had more money, I would give a show of Reapers' true depravity - enemies called "Constructs" - a terrifying fusions between Quarians and Geth (similiar to enemies from another wonderful game "Soma") through the Reaper tech who much like Banshees which are biotic masters, they would be tech masters. They would be a final prove that Quarians and Geth both are victims of the war against the one true enemy - the Reapers.
At the intro of this mission, all I kept thinking was Shepard saying to himself: "I promised Tali a home on her homeworld, and I'm damn well gonna build it. And nothing's gonna stop me."
Haha. Exactly my thoughts.
So...anyone else who play as Quarian in the multiplayer ever hear "For Rannoch" as "BANANA!" ?
To be fair, I'd rather wait to see how the aftermath DLC will wrap things up. If STORY-WISE it all comes together logically, I personally will have no complaints that they didn't fuck the series up by that moment alone. It can still be wrapped up.
It's only if/when that comes, the anger of if it costs and how much but also how beefy the content we're getting is and how much work was put into it.
I still think that attack that Reaper alone and in open fields was the stupidiest idea ever, in real life or any fiction story.
I almost feel tempted to consider that in my canon world, Shepard was killed there.
Taikoubou07 Why?
Because it was a stupid idea, and should have more than likely left Shepard dead. Still my favorite moment in the game, though
I cried over a sentient robot on Rannoch.
1:20
EMERGENCY induction port.
This theme is epic as fuck. End of, nothing more to add.
"It's just background battle music, probably nothing special". And then I heard 01:19
Rannoch: it's Colorado... IN SPACE!
This one's for you, Tali.
I love Rannoch missions. 300-years war has finally come to an end.
The war started before humans even had cars and computers, and were far from spacefaring - yet the war was ended by a human! Terran Supremacy all the way!!
1:19 What an EPIC part!
I get chills when playing the game at that part WOW!! Sounds likes heroes fight for honor, glory, and justice!
I find it odd that rannoch's theme is the same as the character's creation. Why here rather than anywhere else ?
Never noticed before! even after replayed the entire series 7 times, I will check it out in the remake that Im playing right now. Good observation !
It's even more tragic because Legion never wanted it.
Because go against what Legion says in ME2. Legion says that the Geth are fine living the way they live, and that for them, individualism is a set back than an advancement. Geth are stronger being a Consensus.
I blame it on the Reapers. Legion never wanted to use Reaper technology to get individuality, but damn those stupid Quarians. If was not for Tali, I would gladly allow the Geth to destroy them.
Part of this sounds really similar to the terran soundtrack from sc1!
Very similar to the "Shepard Creation" theme. Amazing.
Yes, but the indoctrination theory isn't trying to take away the goodness of what happened, it's just trying to explain why everything got so weird after Shepard lost consciousnesses. There's just too many plot holes to justify it even up to that point.
That's what people expected I bet...shit I expected to sit back and watch some spectacular Reaper explosions, then go on to get patched up and see my buddies and go retire somewhere on a beach with Garrus. Instead we get esoteric mindfuck B.S. Sigh. Still hoping for that retirement with my human-turian kids or krogan adoptees.
But consequently, it does take away the closure you get from Anderson and Tim, the only people Shepard actually has any closure with. That's my main beef with it, and the fact that if you apply critical thinking skills to it, the theory falls apart and you can see that it is just confirmation bias and wishful thinking.
This is why I don't like the indoctrination theory, which claims that Shepard never went up to the Citadel. His last moments with Tim and Anderson were good, it's just after that moment that the game needs to be patched up and fixed.
And Indoctrination Theory still leaves us with a half-finished ending that feels unsatisfactory. It might explain the weird crap with the Catalyst, but a Battle in the Centre of the Mind isn't the ending fans wanted to the games, so it's not really any better. In some ways, it's worse, because it suggests that Shep ends up fully indoctrinated in two of the three options, and the Destruction ending just gets you a crappy couple of seconds of Shepard breathing, with Reapers possibly not gone yet.
Luckily the RID theory isn't very convincing and is actually based off of faulty logic, though that might not stop Bioware from adapting it if its supporters push for it.
Seriously?
Right, if we all pitch in we should be able to afford every hitman, assassin and professional killer on the planet. Lets teach the gaming industry a very serious lesson about plotlines. :P
To be honest the real culprits are casey hudson and mac walters, apparently they decided to write the final mission and ending without the rest of the team...if we could manage to get the IP for his personal computer we could use any short of method to make his life a living hell.
But at least there were advantages as well as disadvantages to each ending in deus ex. Rather than just 3 slightly different ways to fuck over everyone and everything in the galaxy.
With both Anderson and Shepard dying, while the Crucible fires it's lazor and kills the Reapers. The mass relays survive, ensuring that civilization can still continue. A good ending with high enough EMS has Shepard live and have blue kids with Liara. :D
@GrandChamp1989 It is possible that once the arms of the citidel opened, Hacket ordered a mass retreat because no one knew what would happen. Notice in the ending that there are very few ships fighting and none of them seem to be around when you activate it.
@Blub7400 I personally thought Starship Troopers, which if I remember correctly, is the same composer. Though I'll just side with you on the Robocop thing just because it's better.
@XxDasantekixX What's even more infuriating is that isn't even the ending that's bad; just the last five minutes of it. Everything in the game up to and including the final confrontation with TIM is fan-fucking-tastic, and then the end comes out of left field to punch you in the balls and steal your wallet while you're left wondering "WTF just happened?"
Oh, I really hope Bioware doesn't try and include it. I'd much sooner have an entirely new ending, implausible as that might be. Something based on their dark energy ideas.
@GrandChamp1989 not true! The mass relays may be gone, but the ships still have FTL (Faster Than Light) capability, it will just take them longer to reach Rannoch.
You know that, should the DLC come out, it would never be free.
Still, I'd buy it even for a staggering 3200 Bioware points.
I don't think I've ever been so angry at a video game before for reasons other than it being obscenely difficult.
It's because he's being precautious as any logical being would. Shepard had a history of helping the Quarians, and they were at war with the Geth. If it came down to deciding between the Geth and the Quarians (as it did for some people) how could Legion be sure that Shepard would side with the Geth? He couldn't, so he did everything he could to slowly gain Shepard's trust while at the same time hiding data from the Quarians to ensure they couldn't just kill the Geth straight up.
You know what's funny? There's a rumor going around that Hudson wrote the ending, much to the writers' dismay.
Keelah se'lai
I heard that the writers prematurely celebrated before they were done writing the story....
@KarasawaL30 I was playing the MP as Quarian Infiltrator and everyone on my team was laughing at the Banana line. I personally never noticed it was "For Rannoch".
keelah se'lai
Does anyone know the name of the song that plays when you land to attack the reaper base on rannoch and tali goes on about poetry?
It cant be! Really it cant be, because shep is indic! It is s´just a dream.
we could always attack their servers and websites....just a thought.
Thane does not appear in my game is it because i don´t have a ME2 profile to load in ME3
my favurite is Thane cause HE KICKS SOME ASS [+ hes an assassin and he saved the salarian councilor]
After the suicide mission it shoud've been logical to trust Tali even if not the quarians, and sheppard even if not the humans.
we need more tali, i wanna see an entire cutscene were she is unmasked, not a picture.
Good, no bosh'tet (dislikers). And Keelah se'lai indeed :)
I will build you that house Tali. I promise. Kee'lah se'lai!
Dr. Disrespect brought me here
Tali Zorah Vas Normandy - Keelah Ze Lai.!!!!!
at this poin ANYTHING is better than that ending.
exactly. that is by far the best description of what happened.
it's se'lai
not ze lai...
i'm so picky >:)
So, worthless, hot as hell, and dry?
Does this games company have a soul
Does this unit have a soul?
Legion pretty much went for the synthesis ending, didn't he? And Mordin, too. And so did I - for the galaxy, biatches.
@Blub7400 I won't disagree.
oops didnt see the ME2 bit haha my bad.
@Lootraevefan Me gusta.
mmmyes
God, this is such an awesome track!
This is better score than the game deserves, TBH.