Oh i do hope so nVidia could use a good kick in the gut ATI/AMD has always been force over finesse when it came to GPU performance and they have the tech to throw out more raw compute power than nVidia's architecture could come close to matching almost half the fab size and their infinity fabric will make for some amazing cards.
How is it a nightmare? it takes literally twenty seconds or less to disable crossfire if it causes a problem, and the benefits when it works well is quite significant.
A piece of History? This thing runs on the first iteration of the GCN architecture. Yes the same GCN that vega is the 5th iteration of. With crossfire working well this dual gpu will stomp a 1060 or RX 580 and it will keep up with cards like the 1070. The 7000 series is the best AMD has produced in recent years and its not obsolete as "piece of history" implies as shown in the video.
@@hans-joachimbierwirth4727 No it doesn't. Amd recommendations for psu are grossly over specced, just like nvidias. I mean damn, the ask 400w psus for gpus without a power connector, basically for gpus that can draw at max 75w.
You mad? I own one of this cards, and it shuts down my 750W bequiet! PSU within two or three minutes of gaming but runs well with my Antec 1300W PSU due to bad asic quality of both GPUs. Full system load is around 800W (7990 + Q6600 + X38 chipset).
i had 2 of these in crossfire X, it ran at 101 degrees (on Ark not even stress test), I genuinely did not require a heater for my room, thank you AMD! :D
I use a GTX 1070 8GB as my daily GPU, but sometimes put my R9 290X in my PC for nostalgia! the 290X is kind of a beast. draws power like crazy tho. I remember overclocking it so far that it made my 750 watt PSU shut off from overload.
Not V-Sync, it's called "Frame Pacing". It'll lower average FPS by up to 10% (usually only 0-5% hit tho) to sync the frames sent out by the crossfired cards, and eliminate >90% of microstutter. Crossfire has become a lot more usable since that setting got implemented.
@@DragoCubX When he said syncing I thought it could be but thanks for the information. What I still think about v-sync is that it can make some stuttering during some games. For example csgo.
sometimes even pc repair shop owners can be total idiots i bought a "faulty" asus p67 board with i5 2500k from an online listing and picked it up for just $30 saying when cpu and ram is installed nothing happens but when either of those are removed it starts to beep, and all i had to do was just clean the entire thing and the damn thing booted
Multi-gpu in UE4 not supported(some issues with deffered rendering and msaa, if i recall corectly). Also, i own laptop with 750m in sli and for past-gen games(and some current-gen) it was a perfect deal, but for now m-gpu solutions have sense only for benchmark insanity - you literally have +40-60% of perfomance for +100%(if you already have atleast mobo with m-gpu support and beafy psu) of money, consumption and noise. And it's only for 2-way sli/cf, 3 or 4-way is just crazy unefficient.
Dude I’ve been wanting one of these cards since they came out!! Freaking love your channel , you’re the only person reviewing shit like this it’s awesome!!
i had 2x Geforce 9800 GTX+ in SLI on my old computer, both had problems though, i had to under clock them both because one had a temperature shutdown issue at higher clock speeds, the other was an ovenbake re-flow and would still show artifact if it got too warm, but overall, the 2 in SLI was about 70-80% better than either one of them alone :)
Love the video!! I have a 7950 Boost on my GF's PC and I have 1 970s in SLi in mine. Multi card configs are not optimal but it's much better than advertised everywhere... When I bought my 2 970s there was no 980Ti yet... Yet this setup is about 5% faster or about a factory OCed 980Ti. We owners of multi-gpu setups simply look in the internet for info on SLi/crossfire support before buying games, and it's never a bad thing, from the games I own, only 20% doesn't offer SLi support and only the games that support are the ones that would really need it. It's a much less painful thing than is decribed everywhere.
Yeah, I love my duel Fury so much, I'm going to try 4x once I get a board that supports it. Those 2x Fury cost $400 total and beat my Titan Xp (now only $800 used, though I paid $1200 earlier this year), so all 4x Fury cost the same as 1 used Titan... Not a bad deal considering 2x was already better. Running 4k: Furys make a nice smooth 60 fps in Crysis 3 Ultra (no AA) with Titan Xp collectors edition making ~50 fps and much choppier. I really want to try running some games at 3x 4k, but obviously the single Titan just wasn't going to cut it when it makes only 67 fps in Fortnite at 4k (no AA).
@Nikola - One card with 2 GPUs has to duplicate memory the same way multi cards do. This card has two sets of 3gb, each assigned to one GPU and it behaves as such. It came out at a time where this wasn't common knowledge and manufacturers took advantage with their marketing.
Still wrong. The way this card is designed is with 6GB of VRAM, it is 6gb of VRAM per card, the cards may still be on the same pcb but each "card" has access to its own 6gb therefor in practice it is still a 6gb card. no it doesnt stack and no this doesnt make this a 12gb card. it just means that its 2 6gb cards on the same pcb.
@@JWI515 .... Its a "6gb" card.. Does this mean as its double it's got 12gb shared? NO. Its 2*3gb. Do you think AMD would not take advantage of the maximum value they could claim? They did take advantage of it, and its 3gb of usable VRAM, for each GPU.
Nice I've been wanting to upgrade to that combo (or an rx 480). Granted a 1050ti can (almost) match the consoles depending on how demanding the game is cough shadow of the tomb raider can't hit 60 fps locked right now on an i3 8100, gtx 1050ti, and 16 GB ddr4 ram cough.
Once I saw that title, I KNEW this is going to be one of the best ones! Too bad it was the last gen that featured GPUs like this... otherwise, as soon as you can, please get a hold of a GTX 295 or an HD 6990. Keep it up man!
Can you find a good price on a Radeon Pro Duo Polaris? Basically 2 RX 580s on a card, though I think it's a professional grade piece that only has the default blower style cooler.
Great cards. I used to use 5970s for hashing back in the day and they were pretty damn fast, at the expense of sounding like a soviet fighter jet with the throttle stuck open. That had flickering sky/fog issues on a good few games including Skyrim when running in crossfire mode
Amazing card and to get it at all considering the performance of it and it being a different sort of card you are lucky man. A great video as always. Also watching this keeps pushing me to buy old hardware for sale where I am. Recently I have seen some good deals but a little short on green to pull the trigger on buying the cards. Anyway happy graphics card hunting in the future everyone.
when two cards in sli or crossfire, their individual VRAM doesn't combine coz both have to have the same image every time either card renders it, therefore it still is 3gb effectively not 6gb. sorry for broke english. :-p
That is really strange that Fortnite wouldn't even run with crossfire enabled. I have a SLI setup and while games don't always take advantage of both cards, they normally boot up and run just fine regardless.
Yeah, probably just because they are older cards and less supported. My duel Fury didn't need that. I also have a Titan Xp, but for any game that supports multi-GPU (most of mine) then the 2x Fury wins. For some fun, I went ahead and bought some more so I can try 4x Fury (same price used as the cheapest I've found my Titan). They are cheap enough, if I blow a couple up with LN2 benchmarking, I really won't care. I saw the Radeon world record Firestrike looking pretty low with 4x Fury X, and I think it will be a fun challenge to see if I can break that record with 4x Fury (non-X) with hardware voltage mods. Like I said, if they ALL break, its still less cost than breaking a Titan, and I HATE overclocking Pascal. When I tell a card what to do, it's not a negotiation, but Pascal thinks it is...
Its easier to force Nvidia SLI in games that do not support it, But there are vary few games I've found that wont scale perfectly, Crossfire is a bit different, you can't always force crossfire from what i've tested and played with or results in crashing stutter or flickering with no other option to really disable it and use a single card.
This brings to mind my recent purchase of a SAPPHIRE 290X Tri X for $65 on ebay... I won the bid @ $80 but had a $15 off coupon and shipping was free :) It also reminds me of how the R9 280X was a rehash of the 7970 & the 290X was new architecture at that time (also rebranded as the R9 390 thereafter)... Hardware is aging better and netter, but we'll see an end to that once games can advance once more when a new round of consoles come out... Just the way of the gaming world :\ I would love to see another Crysis come around where the latest GPUs are taken to their knees with a title that even the best consoles cannot run... I would pay $100+ for something like that.
Going for a card marked as not working or having problems can sometime net a bargain. I bought a GTX 780Ti that was listed as artificating and thus was being sold as spares or repair. I paid £32 for it including shipping. Opening the card up and I found that the thermal paste was only covering half the GPU Die, so a clean and a fresh application of thermal paste later and the card now runs as it should. Of course I ran the risk of paying £32 for something that just couldn't be repaired but at least I'd have some nice wall art to display.
I had two 7770's back then in crossfire that I got for a great deal. Crossfire worked pretty well in most games. I haven't tried a dual card setup since picking up a 1080ti in 2017.
i had a powercolor devil 13 in my previous computer for maybe 2 weeks, i sold my 7950 to get it that shit used insane power and went over 80c regularly
Still running a HD7970 an original sapphire reference card but flashed to an msi lightning be ghz card, runs at 1050mhz gpu clock and 1500mhz on the memory with lower voltages than the original and i love it it's still going strong in 2018!
@@Titan69 he already has the 7990 and the PSU that can handle it. The thing is, there is no reason for comparison because the results would be pretty much the same. Only thing is thermals and throttling of 7990 vs taking up more space of 2x 7970/280x...
I am writing this on a PC with 2 x 7990's (that's right two of the above in Quadfire). It doubles as a space heater in winter as they warm the room up (literally). 1250 Watts out of the wall socket to power just the computer at full power.
I used to run a pair of GTX 650 Ti Boost in SLI. What a fantastic budget setup that was! You basically had the performance of an overclocked GTX 680 2GB, but for roughly 60% of what the 680 would cost you. That setup could even match the supreme Asus HD 7970 Matrix Platinum in raw performance numbers, and in some games running in 1080p It was also capable of running certain games in 1440p at decent framerates. It was a surprisingly smooth running setup too. I never had that many issues regarding micro-stuttering either, so that was a nice plus. And I could really utilize the cards to their full potential when I upgraded my CPU back in 2014. Went from the FX-8120 to the Core i7 4790K, and what a difference that made! Of course, titles that came after the Kepler era would be harder to run.
Im gonna build my first gaming rig: Gpu: GTX 1080 Rog STRIX 8gb Cpu: Intel core i5 8600k Motherboard: Rog STRIX z370-e Psu: coolermaster V650 Ram: HyperX predator DDR4 4 GB (2x) (1440/1080p gaming at 60 to 144 fps Max settings PUBG and cities skylines with alot of mods) Any tips for me?
jansen Not really it’s just if you’re trying to save money I’m pretty good at finding budget parts that will do more than Knouff for games but if you’re getting a 1080 then I probably don’t have much to offer
I had 2 7970 Ghz Editions in CrossFire for 3 years before getting a 390X, then currently 2 980 TIs in SLI. I still have one of the 7970s in its box with everything original. I loved that card.
As always! Great video. Sniper Elite 4 and Strange Brigade perfect examples for Crossfire testing. Keep that in mind. I'm running on r7 1700 3.9ghz and 2 RX480 from MSI. Both game utilizing my GPU's %100 all the time at 1080p and i'm getting 120 - 170 FPS. Try out one of this games out. p.s.Sorry for bad English :)
A UPS with a monitoring screen or a power meter (think that's what it's called) will actually give you a pretty clear idea (if the PC is only running) on how much wattage your whole system is pulling from the wall, though you'd need to invest in a pretty beefy one for the former.
@@RandomGaminginHD even me lol, I want you to revive this game please Project reality battlefiled 2 Its a free awesome game but people dont know it Pls spread it , you will love it trust me
Checked this list anything ? amdcrossfire.wikia.com/wiki/Crossfire_Game_Compatibility_List Pretty good compiled list here. Only crossfire I've messed about with is recently with two hd 5770's in a core 2 quad q6600 system overclocked too 3.0 ghz & 4 gb 1066 mhz ram. Card will probably last quite well if you do stick with an fps limiter on for most older titles with a game profile in the drivers & say 72 fps on something like Borderlands 2 in a spare system.
I thought the same with my rig which pulls around 1000 watts at full tilt, thats just the rig, not sure how much im pulling with my monitors my 400 watt speakers hard drive toasters, though even gaming I'm still pulling over 500 watts, and I game on it pretty often, My bill hasn't went up at all vs it off and not setup for 3 months here in Arizona.
@@dcikaruga Even idle it uses a good chunck of power, a 5960x 4.5ghz uses more than 100w at idle, both 1070s use probably around that at idle, top of 9 120mm fans 8 sticks or ram, pcie wifi card, 2 usb 3.1 cards, 12 different usb devices idle it will use quite a bit at idle. Wish i had a watt meter.
As you noted, flickering is an SLI/Crossfire issue. I'm not sure what the AMD equivalent setting is, but Alternate Frame Rendering Mode 2 in the Nvidia Control Panel usually solves it.
I happen to have a HD 6990; one core refuses to work (also a fully working GTX 295 and a artifacting GTX 590; previous owner treated it like crap,clogged up etc) I just like the design and work that went into making ‘em
This one TH-camr's friend he had the 7990's successor the r9 295x2 and he had little to no games that took advantage of the card the only thing the card would be useful just like the 7990 and 690 now a days is for mining bitcoins. So he replaced it with a Vega 64. Man you got an awesome deal at under $80 bucks for a dual GPU card nice find. Yeah some graphics cards can become flakey if they do not have enough power. With my r9 290 that I got in 2014 when I built my i7 4790k build I used only 1 PCI-E power connector instead of two separate ones to connect the graphics card to the Power Supply and man that was a big mistake because I was getting black screen lockups and once I put another PCI-E power cable in the mix it fixed everything.
still running a 7970 and i agree with regular cleaning my card still runs a dream currently testing the division 2 beta on a 7970 and it runs great so far
I rocked gtx 660 ti in sli for a long time then upgraded to dual gtx 680 4gb for 50 bucks. so it was a well worth upgrade and im still rocking them. been thinking of upgrading to a 980 ti
I love SLI, I've had multiple cards in my rig for the last 6 years now, but i'd never recommend it to anyone. The reality of it is if you have an SLI setup you will experience issues, it's just about whether that insane level of performance is worth the headache. With programs like Nvidia inspector you can get most games that don't support SLI to work with it anyway, but most people don't want to deal with the trouble. For me, it's worth it, I currently run two 1080s that I got on launch day two years ago and they still chew through just about anything with max settings at 4K, it's just sometimes a pain in the ass to get them started.
I ran 2 r9 290s in crossfire till late 2016 and gamed at 4k. Close to 0 issues om crossfire and performance was quite solid. It was a meagre 5fps avg improvement when i switched to a 1080
Through a game of chance, I acquired an XFX DD Radeon 7990(ive actually not seen another like it, its the triple fan version though, and is a full triple slot card) anyway, I have Fortnite running on it just fine with Crossfire enabled. I have not done a lot of experimentation yet, its possible the newer drivers either auto disable it internally when a game does not support it, or it is possible they worked something out and it now supports it, OR... its possible Fortnite now supports crossfire... but regardless, everything seems to be working fine. I also had no problems enabling Crossfire either, I installed the driver, it recognized a 7900 series card, restarted and it saw both cards and offered up crossfire support
I have a GT 740 FTW 2GB from EVGA. Unlike the original version this one has a base clock of 1202MHz, however it uses an extra 6-pin connector. The base TDP is 65W, and it has good overclocking capabilities (i got mine over 1300MHz with no voltage issues and no crashes). If you manage to get your hands in one it could be a good review in the future, as the 2GB version might be the rarest of the 700-series. For reference, I managed to reach almost 40FPS average in the open beta of BF1 at minimun settings, with the 1% around 23FPS when multiple things were happening at the same time. Since my CPU is an FX-8150, I believe the graphics card was bottlenecking the CPU just by a small margin.
The TDP is only 65W but it needs a 6-pin? Interesting. I have heard that 75W is the max a card can get from the PCI-E slot by itself, but maybe that is just the theoretical maximum and perhaps it's safer or more reliable to get additional power.
It requires the extra 6 pin solely for overclocking purposes, my old EVGA 750ti needed a 6 pin although there were 750ti models that would solely work off of PCI-E power
I've played many hours of Far Cry 3 at 5760x1080 with two HD7970's in crossfire. Having the graphics set to max quality was a bit too much to ask but at 1920x1080 it was a very pleasant experience. Having them heat the whole house was a nice extra as well, i guess.
My 7990 lasted me until last year when it died and I had to replace it with a GTX 1060. It handled all of the games I played with flying colors, It did use alot of power, but with a beefy PSU it was awesome!
A dual GPU Titan RTX would be amazing, and expensive as hell. There are PSUs with 8 8-pin connectors, so you could potentially use two at once for maximum overkill.
I had the same problem with my hd5990 back in the day when I flashed a higher voltage in vbios but I did it only to one GPU cuz I didn't read the instructions fully for dual chip card.. 6 months later I discovered I flashed only one and when I flashed both with same vbios it worked perfectly.
It's amazing how well Metro Redux is optimized. The ryzen 5 1600 barely went over 50% usage while feeding two GPU that are pumping out more than 150fps. No wonder it runs so great on consoles.
I can't wait for this man's RTX 2080ti review 8 years from now.
@Mary Graziano what the
@Mary Graziano awesome go scam elsewhere
more like 3090
there already was a 3070 on release...
Lol, yea
I miss the days of whacking 2 Top Tier GPUs together and calling it their best in the line-up. Still the Pro-Duo exists....Thatd be worth grabbng
May not be far off from seeing this as the norm even on the low end AMD cards, infinity fabric + 7nm + vega = all of the tflops.
Hi (:
@@bdhale34: Definitely looks to be the case.
Yeah the Radeon Pro Duo is a damn beast
Oh i do hope so nVidia could use a good kick in the gut ATI/AMD has always been force over finesse when it came to GPU performance and they have the tech to throw out more raw compute power than nVidia's architecture could come close to matching almost half the fab size and their infinity fabric will make for some amazing cards.
For a casul pc user, it's a nightmare. For a techy enthousiast, it's a piece of history and a dream come true to get one of this bad boy!
How is it a nightmare? it takes literally twenty seconds or less to disable crossfire if it causes a problem, and the benefits when it works well is quite significant.
A piece of History? This thing runs on the first iteration of the GCN architecture. Yes the same GCN that vega is the 5th iteration of. With crossfire working well this dual gpu will stomp a 1060 or RX 580 and it will keep up with cards like the 1070. The 7000 series is the best AMD has produced in recent years and its not obsolete as "piece of history" implies as shown in the video.
@Cuzeg Spiked i'm assuming that that's autocorrect, right?
Nvidias top-tier stuff is only metaphorically overpriced shit
@Cuzeg Spiked lol yup
A nightmare? it seems to me that you never used an igpu before
Genuinely, thank you for the flashing images warning! Nobody includes them these days, so it's really awesome to see them. Legend.
Hey mate, that 7990 is a pretty nice catch for 60 pounds. Congrats!
ikr it's like a good price for a single 7970 even, so he basically got a second one for free :D
I payed 7980 hd for 10 euros
Difference is, a 7990 easily shuts most PSUs down while a 7970 won't.
@@hans-joachimbierwirth4727 No it doesn't. Amd recommendations for psu are grossly over specced, just like nvidias. I mean damn, the ask 400w psus for gpus without a power connector, basically for gpus that can draw at max 75w.
You mad? I own one of this cards, and it shuts down my 750W bequiet! PSU within two or three minutes of gaming but runs well with my Antec 1300W PSU due to bad asic quality of both GPUs. Full system load is around 800W (7990 + Q6600 + X38 chipset).
i had 2 of these in crossfire X, it ran at 101 degrees (on Ark not even stress test), I genuinely did not require a heater for my room, thank you AMD! :D
2 7990 are you mad
@@notcraig255 Might be able to simulate a universe with that much power!
U should change the thermal paste
101 frames... Degrees😂😂
Honestly they were entirely pointless, nothing ever used crossfire x with any success XD I changed em both out for a 1080ti and never looked back :)
I use a GTX 1070 8GB as my daily GPU, but sometimes put my R9 290X in my PC for nostalgia! the 290X is kind of a beast. draws power like crazy tho. I remember overclocking it so far that it made my 750 watt PSU shut off from overload.
Timothy Cousineau my 290 made my PSU explode, lucky it didn’t take anything with it
This channel is one of my favourites. Good content posted often
Though it's even better when Dave is around.
I had this beast crossfired with 7970. Great in benchmarks but microsttuter was horrible in gaming.
Dorian Przybyła i cant remember what it was but you had to disable some kind of syncing to meditate that
@@kebab4387 V-Sync?
Not V-Sync, it's called "Frame Pacing". It'll lower average FPS by up to 10% (usually only 0-5% hit tho) to sync the frames sent out by the crossfired cards, and eliminate >90% of microstutter.
Crossfire has become a lot more usable since that setting got implemented.
@@DragoCubX When he said syncing I thought it could be but thanks for the information. What I still think about v-sync is that it can make some stuttering during some games. For example csgo.
@@DragoCubX p
sometimes even pc repair shop owners can be total idiots i bought a "faulty" asus p67 board with i5 2500k from an online listing and picked it up for just $30 saying when cpu and ram is installed nothing happens but when either of those are removed it starts to beep, and all i had to do was just clean the entire thing and the damn thing booted
If you get it for a steal it can be, especially considering being able to flip it for profit if it works
2nd gen intel I series aren't really ancient. Still more than capable of most tasks now.
@@johnwolf2349 ikr. I still have it and it works great on esportd
sandy bridge is far from ancient, the 2500K is still a great cpu. Ran a 2400 myself up till like next year and it worked very well still
that 2500k is worth more than 30 for sure.
"hello everyone and welcome" never gonna get old.
What a great find! These old dual gpu graphics cards are really amazing to look at and test!
i have 2 GTX 690 and HD 6990 :D
I`m 69 all the way!
Your room must be 69°c as well... xD
I recently picked up a GTX 690 and GTX 590! Both broken, but I have fixed them. I really want to get another 690 to try quad SLI in my old rig!
I have a core 2 quad q6700 and a i7 6700k
@@janisir4529 67 hmmmm
It's actually 69F but he lives in alaska
I HAVE THIS CARD :D
I bought mine a year ago from CEX and its running like a dream :) Cant believe you reviewed this :D made my night that has
Multi-gpu in UE4 not supported(some issues with deffered rendering and msaa, if i recall corectly).
Also, i own laptop with 750m in sli and for past-gen games(and some current-gen) it was a perfect deal, but for now m-gpu solutions have sense only for benchmark insanity - you literally have +40-60% of perfomance for +100%(if you already have atleast mobo with m-gpu support and beafy psu) of money, consumption and noise. And it's only for 2-way sli/cf, 3 or 4-way is just crazy unefficient.
Dude I’ve been wanting one of these cards since they came out!! Freaking love your channel , you’re the only person reviewing shit like this it’s awesome!!
i had 2x Geforce 9800 GTX+ in SLI on my old computer, both had problems though, i had to under clock them both because one had a temperature shutdown issue at higher clock speeds, the other was an ovenbake re-flow and would still show artifact if it got too warm, but overall, the 2 in SLI was about 70-80% better than either one of them alone :)
Liar
God damn 9800 sli
I hope you meant 980
r/thathappened
@@malcolmcampbell1968 Why is he lying?
im using baked gt 9800 for 12 years :)
Love the video!! I have a 7950 Boost on my GF's PC and I have 1 970s in SLi in mine. Multi card configs are not optimal but it's much better than advertised everywhere... When I bought my 2 970s there was no 980Ti yet... Yet this setup is about 5% faster or about a factory OCed 980Ti. We owners of multi-gpu setups simply look in the internet for info on SLi/crossfire support before buying games, and it's never a bad thing, from the games I own, only 20% doesn't offer SLi support and only the games that support are the ones that would really need it. It's a much less painful thing than is decribed everywhere.
Yeah, I love my duel Fury so much, I'm going to try 4x once I get a board that supports it. Those 2x Fury cost $400 total and beat my Titan Xp (now only $800 used, though I paid $1200 earlier this year), so all 4x Fury cost the same as 1 used Titan... Not a bad deal considering 2x was already better.
Running 4k: Furys make a nice smooth 60 fps in Crysis 3 Ultra (no AA) with Titan Xp collectors edition making ~50 fps and much choppier. I really want to try running some games at 3x 4k, but obviously the single Titan just wasn't going to cut it when it makes only 67 fps in Fortnite at 4k (no AA).
Hey mate,
You should consider maybe buying an open air test bench for working on the gpus , troubleshooting etc, they can be affordable.
hell NAH! i used on of those with a pentium 4 and it fking darkened my wooden table from how hot the fker gets.
Memory does not add up when you use Crossfire or SLI. While this card has 6GB of VRAM, it still uses only 3 in games.
It doesn't stack up if you use 2 separate cards
This card uses 6gb lol
@Nikola - One card with 2 GPUs has to duplicate memory the same way multi cards do. This card has two sets of 3gb, each assigned to one GPU and it behaves as such. It came out at a time where this wasn't common knowledge and manufacturers took advantage with their marketing.
Still wrong. The way this card is designed is with 6GB of VRAM, it is 6gb of VRAM per card, the cards may still be on the same pcb but each "card" has access to its own 6gb therefor in practice it is still a 6gb card. no it doesnt stack and no this doesnt make this a 12gb card. it just means that its 2 6gb cards on the same pcb.
Nope. Look at the video at 3:38. GPU-Z clearly states that 1 of the GPUs only has access to 3GB of memory.
@@JWI515 .... Its a "6gb" card.. Does this mean as its double it's got 12gb shared? NO.
Its 2*3gb. Do you think AMD would not take advantage of the maximum value they could claim?
They did take advantage of it, and its 3gb of usable VRAM, for each GPU.
Indeed, a 7970 is great card, its aged perhaps the best of all GPUs.
Somewhat true.
I really have been watching you for over an year. I just love your channel. And I have a low spec pc :D (not working.))
I just got my GTX 1060+i5-8400 gaming pc...I moved from Intel HD finally.....So happy right now cuz games look beatiful at ultra 1080p :O
awesome my dude :D cheers on that
Nice I've been wanting to upgrade to that combo (or an rx 480). Granted a 1050ti can (almost) match the consoles depending on how demanding the game is cough shadow of the tomb raider can't hit 60 fps locked right now on an i3 8100, gtx 1050ti, and 16 GB ddr4 ram cough.
Speedster Blur i dont think that a console would do 60 fps neither
Nice bro I have the same CPU with a gtx1050 ti tho
Noob, Get a 1070.
Just kidding, Welcome to the PC world!
This is why competition is good. Both companies produce each their own innovations and competitive pricing.
DH 7990
Its great to watch your videos. It makes ne wanna retain my socket 775 rig and give it more loving.
I've renamed my hd 7990 the griddle it's brilliant for cooking chops
Once I saw that title, I KNEW this is going to be one of the best ones! Too bad it was the last gen that featured GPUs like this... otherwise, as soon as you can, please get a hold of a GTX 295 or an HD 6990. Keep it up man!
Can you find a good price on a Radeon Pro Duo Polaris? Basically 2 RX 580s on a card, though
I think it's a professional grade piece that only has the default blower style cooler.
Oi mate, where are you?
More than a week without uploads, nothing new on Twitter.
Is everything alright? I'm genuinely worried!
Great cards. I used to use 5970s for hashing back in the day and they were pretty damn fast, at the expense of sounding like a soviet fighter jet with the throttle stuck open. That had flickering sky/fog issues on a good few games including Skyrim when running in crossfire mode
This card is much better than my gtx 1050
u must have a terrible cpu then lol
Amazing card and to get it at all considering the performance of it and it being a different sort of card you are lucky man. A great video as always. Also watching this keeps pushing me to buy old hardware for sale where I am. Recently I have seen some good deals but a little short on green to pull the trigger on buying the cards. Anyway happy graphics card hunting in the future everyone.
when two cards in sli or crossfire, their individual VRAM doesn't combine coz both have to have the same image every time either card renders it, therefore it still is 3gb effectively not 6gb.
sorry for broke english. :-p
Lmao you're dumb
@@Drewless hes right, vram does not stack on dual gpu systems
Your content is very good,you show to people that is not necessary to buy a modern GPU and there are old gpus that are capable even in new titles
I dont know why i watch these videos when owning a 1080Ti, but i love it.
weird flex but ok
Helluva find!!! Great job with the channel!!
That is really strange that Fortnite wouldn't even run with crossfire enabled. I have a SLI setup and while games don't always take advantage of both cards, they normally boot up and run just fine regardless.
Yeah, probably just because they are older cards and less supported. My duel Fury didn't need that. I also have a Titan Xp, but for any game that supports multi-GPU (most of mine) then the 2x Fury wins. For some fun, I went ahead and bought some more so I can try 4x Fury (same price used as the cheapest I've found my Titan).
They are cheap enough, if I blow a couple up with LN2 benchmarking, I really won't care. I saw the Radeon world record Firestrike looking pretty low with 4x Fury X, and I think it will be a fun challenge to see if I can break that record with 4x Fury (non-X) with hardware voltage mods. Like I said, if they ALL break, its still less cost than breaking a Titan, and I HATE overclocking Pascal. When I tell a card what to do, it's not a negotiation, but Pascal thinks it is...
Its easier to force Nvidia SLI in games that do not support it, But there are vary few games I've found that wont scale perfectly, Crossfire is a bit different, you can't always force crossfire from what i've tested and played with or results in crashing stutter or flickering with no other option to really disable it and use a single card.
It's always a good moment when these videos are released
I remember this being the GPU used during the BF3 trailer
Battlefield 4, Baku Mission and seeing levolution for the first time, with HD7990 powering it was so exciting and mind blowing at the time
This brings to mind my recent purchase of a SAPPHIRE 290X Tri X for $65 on ebay... I won the bid @ $80 but had a $15 off coupon and shipping was free :) It also reminds me of how the R9 280X was a rehash of the 7970 & the 290X was new architecture at that time (also rebranded as the R9 390 thereafter)... Hardware is aging better and netter, but we'll see an end to that once games can advance once more when a new round of consoles come out... Just the way of the gaming world :\ I would love to see another Crysis come around where the latest GPUs are taken to their knees with a title that even the best consoles cannot run... I would pay $100+ for something like that.
ahh yes the card that was featured in every fake facebook giveaway during my childhood
Hahahhha! So true like and share with your friends to win this card 😎😎😎😂😂
Going for a card marked as not working or having problems can sometime net a bargain. I bought a GTX 780Ti that was listed as artificating and thus was being sold as spares or repair. I paid £32 for it including shipping.
Opening the card up and I found that the thermal paste was only covering half the GPU Die, so a clean and a fresh application of thermal paste later and the card now runs as it should.
Of course I ran the risk of paying £32 for something that just couldn't be repaired but at least I'd have some nice wall art to display.
Looks like your compression settings for recording are a bit too low - very visible artefacts. Other than that, good video!
Unprofessional? It's nice to give a recommendation, but to act like you want a refund is ridiculous!
I had a 7990 a few years ago. Ran fine on a 650W quality PSU. No issues whatsoever,
Great card. I miss it. :)
i had TWO of these in my build, literally 92 degrees on ark! they did do some good work though!
Either of those setups would be great for BOINC (scientific computing) and Gridcoin.
@@paranoidnela im afraid i dont know exact numbers but im using a 1300 watt power supply put it that way XD
I had two 7770's back then in crossfire that I got for a great deal. Crossfire worked pretty well in most games. I haven't tried a dual card setup since picking up a 1080ti in 2017.
"Hello everyone and WELLCOMEE to another video" love it
plus for only 60 pounds this is a hell of a deal.
i had a powercolor devil 13 in my previous computer for maybe 2 weeks, i sold my 7950 to get it
that shit used insane power and went over 80c regularly
Still running a HD7970 an original sapphire reference card but flashed to an msi lightning be ghz card, runs at 1050mhz gpu clock and 1500mhz on the memory with lower voltages than the original and i love it it's still going strong in 2018!
Do two 7970s in crossfire vs the 7990. Fps, temps, noise, power draw!?
Don't do crossfire lol, too many problems and too many games not supporting it, plus you'll need some serious power.
@@Titan69 he already has the 7990 and the PSU that can handle it. The thing is, there is no reason for comparison because the results would be pretty much the same.
Only thing is thermals and throttling of 7990 vs taking up more space of 2x 7970/280x...
Really wishing u could find deals like these on my end. Happy for you, man.
That thing is longer than my whole computer
I am writing this on a PC with 2 x 7990's (that's right two of the above in Quadfire). It doubles as a space heater in winter as they warm the room up (literally). 1250 Watts out of the wall socket to power just the computer at full power.
Oh will it run modern games tho???
YES
Yes , but the amount of power it needs and heat it produces is not worth it.
depends on the game if it supports crossfire or not
criS I am a 750 W PSU it’s just an old PSU so I don’t know if I would trust it that’s why I’m going with the 1050 for my first gaming build
Um... I believe he ran Wofensten NO, and FC5... both newer titles...
I used to run a pair of GTX 650 Ti Boost in SLI.
What a fantastic budget setup that was! You basically had the performance of an overclocked GTX 680 2GB, but for roughly 60% of what the 680 would cost you.
That setup could even match the supreme Asus HD 7970 Matrix Platinum in raw performance numbers, and in some games running in 1080p
It was also capable of running certain games in 1440p at decent framerates.
It was a surprisingly smooth running setup too. I never had that many issues regarding micro-stuttering either, so that was a nice plus.
And I could really utilize the cards to their full potential when I upgraded my CPU back in 2014. Went from the FX-8120 to the Core i7 4790K, and what a difference that made!
Of course, titles that came after the Kepler era would be harder to run.
Hey I saw that same card on eBay lol
No crashes no issues at all plays all games fine!
Ati HD 5970
Best card ever made....
I am very thank full.
that thing is a good space heater??
edit: On the crysis something was not right the card was only using 50% of capabilities?!
It very likely is, my r9 390 which uses less power is able to heat my house in the winter, it also heats up the globe by 2° every year
Albert Cazares . I know it's a joke, well mostly, but even small electric heaters provide more heat.
nice :-)
I appreciate your videos. Thanks for making them.
Im gonna build my first gaming rig:
Gpu: GTX 1080 Rog STRIX 8gb
Cpu: Intel core i5 8600k
Motherboard: Rog STRIX z370-e
Psu: coolermaster V650
Ram: HyperX predator DDR4
4 GB (2x)
(1440/1080p gaming at 60 to 144 fps Max settings PUBG and cities skylines with alot of mods)
Any tips for me?
Don't put too much thermal paste
Do you mean with 4gb (2x) you have 8gb dual channel ram? If so, yes
jansen Is your motherboard a z370 motherboard? Do some overclocking and this build is more than enough for 1440p on everything ultra, good build
jansen Not really it’s just if you’re trying to save money I’m pretty good at finding budget parts that will do more than Knouff for games but if you’re getting a 1080 then I probably don’t have much to offer
just wait a bit. maybe 1 month.
Pascal cards will be cheaper for sure.
I had 2 7970 Ghz Editions in CrossFire for 3 years before getting a 390X, then currently 2 980 TIs in SLI. I still have one of the 7970s in its box with everything original. I loved that card.
Wanna sell it?;)
Hello, what is your name ?! Been watching your channel since mounths now, and i don't know what your name is !
LigmaBalls xD
Ok Srsy Idk
Steve
His name is Steve, if I remember correctly:)
It's Steve
No, his seagull is Steve
As always! Great video.
Sniper Elite 4 and Strange Brigade perfect examples for Crossfire testing. Keep that in mind. I'm running on r7 1700 3.9ghz and 2 RX480 from MSI. Both game utilizing my GPU's %100 all the time at 1080p and i'm getting 120 - 170 FPS. Try out one of this games out.
p.s.Sorry for bad English :)
4:11 benchmarks
thanks mate
A UPS with a monitoring screen or a power meter (think that's what it's called) will actually give you a pretty clear idea (if the PC is only running) on how much wattage your whole system is pulling from the wall, though you'd need to invest in a pretty beefy one for the former.
Dude! Electricity is not free..
It is when you put a huge magnet on electricity meter 🙄🙄🙄🙄
It is in Venezuela
@@malcolmcampbell1968 Nicola Tesla
In Siberia it is dirt cheap, and cooling is... not an issue...
Very particular but interesting topic. I like seeing how budget gpus can run newer and more demanding games surprisingly well
I love your channel can i have a shout out
Yes.
No
@@RandomGaminginHD even me lol,
I want you to revive this game please
Project reality battlefiled 2
Its a free awesome game but people dont know it
Pls spread it , you will love it trust me
Checked this list anything ? amdcrossfire.wikia.com/wiki/Crossfire_Game_Compatibility_List
Pretty good compiled list here.
Only crossfire I've messed about with is recently with two hd 5770's in a core 2 quad q6600 system overclocked too 3.0 ghz & 4 gb 1066 mhz ram.
Card will probably last quite well if you do stick with an fps limiter on for most older titles with a game profile in the drivers & say 72 fps on something like Borderlands 2 in a spare system.
I would like a shoutout as well.
The R9-280X is also the 'updated' (refreshed) classic 7970, and the non-X being the 7950, so you can look at those as well.
I thinking about the electricity bill, no thanks!!!!!
I thought the same with my rig which pulls around 1000 watts at full tilt, thats just the rig, not sure how much im pulling with my monitors my 400 watt speakers hard drive toasters, though even gaming I'm still pulling over 500 watts, and I game on it pretty often, My bill hasn't went up at all vs it off and not setup for 3 months here in Arizona.
Depends what your doing most of the time, full load your looking at 1000 watts, but just basic stuff your probably pulling 100 or so.....
@@dcikaruga Even idle it uses a good chunck of power, a 5960x 4.5ghz uses more than 100w at idle, both 1070s use probably around that at idle, top of 9 120mm fans 8 sticks or ram, pcie wifi card, 2 usb 3.1 cards, 12 different usb devices idle it will use quite a bit at idle. Wish i had a watt meter.
My 1060 +i5 6400 peaks at around 200 when playing games, idle and I can squeeze 50, even down to 40 sometimes.
So u playin on intel hd?
As you noted, flickering is an SLI/Crossfire issue. I'm not sure what the AMD equivalent setting is, but Alternate Frame Rendering Mode 2 in the Nvidia Control Panel usually solves it.
Still run my powercolor 7990, had it 4 years and it's still runs games well
I happen to have a HD 6990; one core refuses to work (also a fully working GTX 295 and a artifacting GTX 590; previous owner treated it like crap,clogged up etc)
I just like the design and work that went into making ‘em
This one TH-camr's friend he had the 7990's successor the r9 295x2 and he had little to no games that took advantage of the card the only thing the card would be useful just like the 7990 and 690 now a days is for mining bitcoins. So he replaced it with a Vega 64. Man you got an awesome deal at under $80 bucks for a dual GPU card nice find. Yeah some graphics cards can become flakey if they do not have enough power. With my r9 290 that I got in 2014 when I built my i7 4790k build I used only 1 PCI-E power connector instead of two separate ones to connect the graphics card to the Power Supply and man that was a big mistake because I was getting black screen lockups and once I put another PCI-E power cable in the mix it fixed everything.
Nice video.. I have the 7990 sitting in storage now may come out to play one day with a budget build..
Love the looks of it! Great video!!!!!! - here i found working (listed as working) for around 130-ish €
still running a 7970 and i agree with regular cleaning my card still runs a dream currently testing the division 2 beta on a 7970 and it runs great so far
Thanks for adding the temps!
I rocked gtx 660 ti in sli for a long time then upgraded to dual gtx 680 4gb for 50 bucks. so it was a well worth upgrade and im still rocking them. been thinking of upgrading to a 980 ti
5:09
"And SLI...sorry...Crossfire.."
The HD 7990 card in inside: TRIGERRED
nunca pense en encontrar el canal del alguien igual de enfermo que yo por las gpus. sencillamente me encanta.
I remember when I first got into 4k gaming and I bought a 295x2. Great card for the time!
I love SLI, I've had multiple cards in my rig for the last 6 years now, but i'd never recommend it to anyone. The reality of it is if you have an SLI setup you will experience issues, it's just about whether that insane level of performance is worth the headache. With programs like Nvidia inspector you can get most games that don't support SLI to work with it anyway, but most people don't want to deal with the trouble. For me, it's worth it, I currently run two 1080s that I got on launch day two years ago and they still chew through just about anything with max settings at 4K, it's just sometimes a pain in the ass to get them started.
I ran 2 r9 290s in crossfire till late 2016 and gamed at 4k. Close to 0 issues om crossfire and performance was quite solid. It was a meagre 5fps avg improvement when i switched to a 1080
Dude! Been eyeing these for years!!!!
I still have my 7950 which overclocked to 7970 level easy. Absolutely stunning a card like this still powers games just fine all these years later.
Through a game of chance, I acquired an XFX DD Radeon 7990(ive actually not seen another like it, its the triple fan version though, and is a full triple slot card) anyway, I have Fortnite running on it just fine with Crossfire enabled. I have not done a lot of experimentation yet, its possible the newer drivers either auto disable it internally when a game does not support it, or it is possible they worked something out and it now supports it, OR... its possible Fortnite now supports crossfire... but regardless, everything seems to be working fine. I also had no problems enabling Crossfire either, I installed the driver, it recognized a 7900 series card, restarted and it saw both cards and offered up crossfire support
I have a GT 740 FTW 2GB from EVGA. Unlike the original version this one has a base clock of 1202MHz, however it uses an extra 6-pin connector. The base TDP is 65W, and it has good overclocking capabilities (i got mine over 1300MHz with no voltage issues and no crashes). If you manage to get your hands in one it could be a good review in the future, as the 2GB version might be the rarest of the 700-series.
For reference, I managed to reach almost 40FPS average in the open beta of BF1 at minimun settings, with the 1% around 23FPS when multiple things were happening at the same time. Since my CPU is an FX-8150, I believe the graphics card was bottlenecking the CPU just by a small margin.
The TDP is only 65W but it needs a 6-pin? Interesting. I have heard that 75W is the max a card can get from the PCI-E slot by itself, but maybe that is just the theoretical maximum and perhaps it's safer or more reliable to get additional power.
It requires the extra 6 pin solely for overclocking purposes, my old EVGA 750ti needed a 6 pin although there were 750ti models that would solely work off of PCI-E power
UnabatingTrauma Strangely enough, the card couldn't boot without the 6-pin plugged in it.
Felipe Calzadilla that’s so interesting! Must have been programmed to be that way maybe for PCI-E longevity or a redundancy feature
Excellent video mate! Lucky guy! I'd love to have 1 of those. My son has a HD 7970.
Wow what a hell of a deal! Even 1 7970 today performs great in games.
other youtubers scream in your headphones while this guy warns about slight flickering. that is gentleman.
HD7000 series is a beast even now, got 7970 4 years ago and still happy with it's performance
I've played many hours of Far Cry 3 at 5760x1080 with two HD7970's in crossfire. Having the graphics set to max quality was a bit too much to ask but at 1920x1080 it was a very pleasant experience. Having them heat the whole house was a nice extra as well, i guess.
What an absolute unit. That lad is quite the bargain. I know many people, including me, who would have paid into a full bidding war for that thing.
My 7990 lasted me until last year when it died and I had to replace it with a GTX 1060. It handled all of the games I played with flying colors, It did use alot of power, but with a beefy PSU it was awesome!
Wow!! When games take advantage of both cards, that's really really good performance for the price! Might balance out with that power bill though. .
A dual GPU Titan RTX would be amazing, and expensive as hell. There are PSUs with 8 8-pin connectors, so you could potentially use two at once for maximum overkill.
In awe at the size of this lad, ABSOLUTE UNIT
I am patiently waiting for the gpu of my generation to surface on your channel, that is the Nvidia GT 6800 lol
I had the same problem with my hd5990 back in the day when I flashed a higher voltage in vbios but I did it only to one GPU cuz I didn't read the instructions fully for dual chip card.. 6 months later I discovered I flashed only one and when I flashed both with same vbios it worked perfectly.
It's amazing how well Metro Redux is optimized. The ryzen 5 1600 barely went over 50% usage while feeding two GPU that are pumping out more than 150fps. No wonder it runs so great on consoles.