I love seeing good stratigraphic pictures for point sequences and this was fantastic. In the great Basin, we also tend to lack Clovis sites in near proximity to the pluvial lakes, where stem points are common on top of the eroded lake sediments. There are Clovis sites along the far southern shorelines and ancient rivers on the southern shorelines. I always wonder if there are older Clovis and Stem Points berried in the Sediment.
I’m a long-time historian and member of the Archeological Society of Ohio. Great presentation. I’ve been published 2x in our quarterly journal-The Ohio Archaeologist and have surface hunted for 50 years. Fascinating lecture. 🫡 Semper Fi
The variation in points after Clovis probably due to the human population being decimated and scattered following the Younger Dryas. Kudos to one of the few who give the credit to those who made the finds and not taking the credit for the others who initially made them and made your work possible.
Who do I contact if I find quite a few artifacts tools,writings,and quite a lot more on my family land I've been wanting to understand more of what I have and the writings and stone art that I'm finding and I'm very green but learning ro recognize them alot more than when I first started finding them but I'm kinda needing advice
If you own the artifacts and wish to retain ownership, the best thing is do not lend them out, because you may not get them back. This includes lending them to archeologists and museums. I'm not suggesting they are all like this because they are not, but some of them see themselves as the rightful keepers of these kinds of artifacts, and you may never see them again, at least not without a long fight. If you do lend them out, have a proper iron clad contract with signatures that protects your interests and specifies the lending conditions. Having given you that warning, I hope you can find answers to your questions and learn about the history of your place. Just be careful.
Colorado native here found folsom yuma scottsbluffs and other paleo stuff in my opinion about clovis being big game hunters is that people really focus on the larger animals and forget that even the smaller animals beaver and other varmints were all over sized and would have fed a few people so I'm sure and the archeological evidence proves they killed big animals but I'm sure that the majority of thier diet meat wise was the smaller animals which were much more prevalent but being opportunistic hunters obviously killed larger animals when a chance arose!
I must have missed the dating of sites in the first half. As far as meat, they celebrated, cut into strips, smoked or sun dried for latter use, they amount of individuals in the tribe can be speculated by the number of associates tools found and campfire remains.
3 surface finds of Clovis points on the Baja Peninsula of Mexico by friends I met in February 2024 Clovis points found on the flat plains and one in the mountains near Ciudad Constitución. The latter mountain side location sure would not be the habitat of either Bison Antiquous of Mammoth, so go figure.
As for points being left behind in large numbers I would say that the need to get away from the kill site due to predators also winter kills make it easy to lose stuff and thirdly on kill sites of multiple animals I've seen that many times animals were sometimes only butchered on one side just the sheer weight of these animals especially if piled up in a draw would definitely be a place where many points simply just were not worth the risk or the effort to recover these points for instance the lindimier site there was no bison tails left on the eleven buffalo killed in this winter hunt suggesting that a great haste was exorcised in loading up the meat in the hides tail still attached and hauling ass these great plains kill sites out in the open were not a good place to hang around due to large predators and scavengers!
Native Americans are the people/culture. Clovis and Folsom is a technology of stone work. They were both made by the same native Americans. The natives adapted their technology as the world around them changed. They were not different people. The “Folsom” people were the ancestors of the so called “Clovis” people. All native Americans. Calling them two different “people’s” like that is today’s equivalent of calling people from the 1800,s horse people and the modern generation as car people, or metal people and plastic people. Other than that it’s a pretty good video. Thanks
Native American is more of a ethnicity rather than a culture. Within the native american population there were/are many distinct cultures. Through archeology we identify those pre-historic cultures largely through the artifacts and other evidence that were left. In this case, Clovis points are emblematic of a rapidly spreading culture, distinct from the representational artifacts from different regions and different periods.
Wow! I grew up helping my grandmother, Aileen McKinney, run off the PCAS newsletter! What a wonderful surprise to find this excellent talk. Thank you.
I love seeing good stratigraphic pictures for point sequences and this was fantastic. In the great Basin, we also tend to lack Clovis sites in near proximity to the pluvial lakes, where stem points are common on top of the eroded lake sediments. There are Clovis sites along the far southern shorelines and ancient rivers on the southern shorelines. I always wonder if there are older Clovis and Stem Points berried in the Sediment.
I’m a long-time historian and member of the Archeological Society of Ohio. Great presentation. I’ve been published 2x in our quarterly journal-The Ohio Archaeologist and have surface hunted for 50 years. Fascinating lecture. 🫡 Semper Fi
The variation in points after Clovis probably due to the human population being decimated and scattered following the Younger Dryas. Kudos to one of the few who give the credit to those who made the finds and not taking the credit for the others who initially made them and made your work possible.
The younger dryas catastrophe is pseudoscience
Who do I contact if I find quite a few artifacts tools,writings,and quite a lot more on my family land I've been wanting to understand more of what I have and the writings and stone art that I'm finding and I'm very green but learning ro recognize them alot more than when I first started finding them but I'm kinda needing advice
If you own the artifacts and wish to retain ownership, the best thing is do not lend them out, because you may not get them back. This includes lending them to archeologists and museums. I'm not suggesting they are all like this because they are not, but some of them see themselves as the rightful keepers of these kinds of artifacts, and you may never see them again, at least not without a long fight. If you do lend them out, have a proper iron clad contract with signatures that protects your interests and specifies the lending conditions. Having given you that warning, I hope you can find answers to your questions and learn about the history of your place. Just be careful.
Stemmed points are found in all parts of the US. Clovis are not the only ones with a wide distribution.
Colorado native here found folsom yuma scottsbluffs and other paleo stuff in my opinion about clovis being big game hunters is that people really focus on the larger animals and forget that even the smaller animals beaver and other varmints were all over sized and would have fed a few people so I'm sure and the archeological evidence proves they killed big animals but I'm sure that the majority of thier diet meat wise was the smaller animals which were much more prevalent but being opportunistic hunters obviously killed larger animals when a chance arose!
I agree, but use punctuation!
I must have missed the dating of sites in the first half. As far as meat, they celebrated, cut into strips, smoked or sun dried for latter use, they amount of individuals in the tribe can be speculated by the number of associates tools found and campfire remains.
3 surface finds of Clovis points on the Baja Peninsula of Mexico by friends I met in February 2024 Clovis points found on the flat plains and one in the mountains near Ciudad Constitución. The latter mountain side location sure would not be the habitat of either Bison Antiquous of Mammoth, so go figure.
As for points being left behind in large numbers I would say that the need to get away from the kill site due to predators also winter kills make it easy to lose stuff and thirdly on kill sites of multiple animals I've seen that many times animals were sometimes only butchered on one side just the sheer weight of these animals especially if piled up in a draw would definitely be a place where many points simply just were not worth the risk or the effort to recover these points for instance the lindimier site there was no bison tails left on the eleven buffalo killed in this winter hunt suggesting that a great haste was exorcised in loading up the meat in the hides tail still attached and hauling ass these great plains kill sites out in the open were not a good place to hang around due to large predators and scavengers!
now wait a minute, butchered only one side by people who wasted nothing? lol like the buffalo jumps, kill all you can , take what you want.
What about the Windover site in Florida? Actually there’s a couple sites in Florida. 7000 year old grave yards that scream European..
Native Americans are the people/culture. Clovis and Folsom is a technology of stone work. They were both made by the same native Americans. The natives adapted their technology as the world around them changed. They were not different people. The “Folsom” people were the ancestors of the so called “Clovis” people. All native Americans. Calling them two different “people’s” like that is today’s equivalent of calling people from the 1800,s horse people and the modern generation as car people, or metal people and plastic people. Other than that it’s a pretty good video. Thanks
Native American is more of a ethnicity rather than a culture. Within the native american population there were/are many distinct cultures. Through archeology we identify those pre-historic cultures largely through the artifacts and other evidence that were left. In this case, Clovis points are emblematic of a rapidly spreading culture, distinct from the representational artifacts from different regions and different periods.
where are all the human bones?
Maybe they cremated their dead?
Get someone who can read.