The Gault Site and the Peopling of the Americas
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- For over 400 years we have accepted the idea that the first peoples in the Americas walked here from Asia. We took the original idea and refined it as new data/ideas came to light and finally, after much struggle, decided that the event must have happened around 10-13,000 years ago. There was also some grudging agreement that Clovis technology, existing roughly 12,700-13,500 years ago, must be representative of those people. Parts of this hypothesis never made sense, but those inconsistencies were ignored and a story of the peopling of the Americas developed that we still teach our children. New information in the form of sites older than Clovis, dating of other events, environmental data and challenges to the inconsistencies of the hypotheses have shown that the old story we were all taught is wrong and new hypotheses are being suggested. The Gault Site in Central Texas, an Archaeological Conservancy property, is a very important contributor to these discussions.
Clark Wernecke is the Project Director for the Prehistory Research Project at the University of Texas at Austin and Executive Director of the Gault School of Archaeological Research, a nonprofit dedicated to research and education regarding the earliest peoples in the Americas.
Dr. Wernecke started his academic career with a degree in history from SMU followed by an MBA from Northwestern University, an M.A. in Anthropology from Florida Atlantic, and finally his PhD from the University of Texas at Austin. He came back to archaeology after a career in business and has worked in the Middle East, Mesoamerica, the American Southeast and Southwest, and Texas. Dr. Wernecke’s primary specialty is that of archaeological project management, but he has also written extensively on architecture and Paleoindian art.
The Clovis sight I found in Wyoming is washing out of a hillside. I have a perfect match to every artifacts shown in this video. Including the geometric patterns that seem to be engraved into pieces of clay
Can I see it?
This was so enjoyable!
Reading the comments, it is clear that many have found potential sites but its difficult to get anyone interested. I found a potential site 8' below the surface just 4 miles from a Clovis mammoth kill site. A couple hundred feet away is another potential site 12' below the surface. Its in a wash and more is eroded away with each rain. I haven't disturbed either site and the best I can do is visit every few months and take pictures. If I had the money, I would send in a sample for carbon dating.
I absolutely love and appreciate how open minded you are. It is so important to stay open minded. So much respect.
I did my field school at Gault in 2011, and I really enjoyed my time there. I'm sad the site is closed, but I'm excited to see what all those finds may reveal in the future.
Hello from California, home of the controversial, hated in some cases, Cerutti Mastodon Site. I worked the site off and on for 5 months as well in the lab preparing the material. Truly an amazing site preserving hammer and anvil stones with use wear, refitting lithics, a vertically oriented tusk extending 70 centimeters below he main site, micro flakes throughout the site etc. preserved in original undisturbed context. More information on this truly incredible occurrence is described in a 2017 Nature article titled " A 130,000 year old archaeological site in site Southern California, USA", and the latest paper published in the Journal of Archaeological Science: Reports 34, 2020, " Raman and Optical microscopy of bone micro-residues on cobbles from the Cerutti Mastodon Site". Enjoy.
The evidence is not very convincing, as the only evidence is the broken mastodon bones and some “hammer and anvil stones” reputedly used to break the bones. The stones in question have not shown evidence that they were manipulated by any human or human ancestor in any way. There is an absence of any lithic activity. No flints or flakes, no cut or scrape marks on the bones.
The claim that hominids were present at the Cerutti Mastodon site 130,000 ya is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence. Perhaps that evidence will be found someday but until it is, the claim doesn’t meet any credibility test.
I’m sure you know all this. It still needs to be said for others’ benefit. I don’t want to sound like I’m tearing you down-making discoveries, searching for evidence, and developing a theory only to have the theory shot down IS doing science. Absence of evidence isn’t evidence of absence, so a discredited archaeological hypothesis today might gain traction tomorrow if more evidence is revealed.
And good job scoring the gig! San Diego is a cool town and the Padres are my second favorite baseball team. 😊
Come check out the material in person. We do have evidence of lithic activity in the form of refits, 7 pieces of one shattered andesite cobble in concentration 1 not figured the Nature letter some of these cemented within pedogenic carbonate concretions. One large pegmatite boulder with refits in concentration 2 that was figured in the nature letter. The "hammer and anvil stones" show distinct use wear as well as bone apatite residues found only on the upsides of the "anvil" stones. There are cone flakes of bone with impact notches, micro flakes of stone and bone throughout the site. The vertically oriented tusk was found literally punched 60 to 70 centimeters through several layers of silt and fine sand below the main horizon. Preserved adjacent to the vertical tusk, was the corresponding horizontally oriented tusk. The molars were fragmented as well. Some of the small enamel and dentine fragments were very sharp resembling lithic"struck flakes", exhibiting bulbs of percussion, were found against and underneath the "anvil stones". impact notches with negative flake scars were preserved in 2" thick femur diaphyses fragments adjacent to the absolutetely untouched smaller thoracic vertebrae and ribs. Small bones only light to medium damage while the large massive limb bones are battered and spirally fractured. Taphonomy, taphonomy, taphonomy. High energy breakeage in a very low energy environment summarizes the CMS. So far most of the criticism of the site is based on P M Ferrell's heavy equipment caused damage hypothesis. That paper is absolute fantasy. There were no rock trucks running over the site upwards of " 250 times". No crushing by heavy machinery as he describes. No jamming the tusk vertically into the sediments by the 80 ton track hoe's bucket. Many people cite this terrible poorly researched article. I accept the distinct possibility that humans may not have created the highly unusual taphonomy of the Cerutti site. Of the dozens large mammal sites I've been associated with nothing comes close to this anomalous site. At the very least, I hope this site will cause a rethink what nature can do.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerutti_Mastodon_site
@@MarcosElMalo2Actually 130,000 year is coming around a lot. The absurd idea that animals would be here in north and South America and not have Paleolithic hunters hunting then is just so Morman, just so Lamenite horse pucky.
Someone had to throw in the close-minded dogma...
Who needs a bridge when you can just paddle around the coast? ❤
The silliness of the "human caused the extinction" story should cause deep introspection within the field.
It’s laughable. They couldn’t come up with a explanation so that’s what they are going with. How sad.
@@judd0112 To be fair, the arrival of humans have been associated with many extinctions around the world. They didn't know people got here 10,000+ years prior to Clovis.
@@nmarbletoe8210 Again it is only a theory(man killing off the entire species) and one which I very much dislike or believe. I mean they did not get here with Winchester Pre 64 model 70s shooting 375 H and H caliber or shooting 458 Win mags loaded with 505 grain projos or M67 or M68 or Mk 111 hand grenades to WIPE out a stout species like the Wooly Mammoth or any of the other of the Pleistocene Fauna. Atlatls ,hurling lithic points on shafts of ash , dogwood or willow , feathered with crow, eagle or turkey feathers were the order for the day and it was their heavy weaponry of the day. Trying to throw an atlatl ACCURATELY and at a far distance is most difficult as well. I know because I tried it. Advantage , FAUNA not man.
I got to visit the “bison jump” site on the Knibbe Ranch several years ago. Really cool!
Wonderful! An excellent, thought provoking presentation.
The speaker is very entertining! I hope those classrooms start dispelling myths and teach this!
Science, especially archaeological science, is always evolving. Theories are formed to explain a chronology of events. Theories are routinely modified or overturned based on new information or reexamination of old information. To refer to previous theories as myths is inaccurate at best. Dr. Wernecke is standing on the shoulders of giants, but I don't think he acknowledges it. Previous theories or archaeologists gave Dr. Wernecke a starting point. Without them he would not have even known the best way to excavate an archaeological site.
This has been incredibly informative and very interesting. I live in the North Eastern portion of this continent and have personally found artifacts that, for all intents and purposes, should have been under a sheet of ice according to past research. Of course, they were surface finds and held no true context to origin. But, interesting nonetheless. Thank you for offering this video for all to see.
I do appreciate this work. If I may though, we didn't "think" it was a much later migration, they ENFORCED that it was a late migration. This is an important point.
They only "enforced" this information as nobody had cared to dig deeper into the lower stratigraphy. As the paradigm changes and the more archeologists and academics slowly come around to the realization that there are still pre-clovis layers worth of information that to be discovered the sooner it will be integrated into common knowledge.
Nobody (who's careers aren't tied to the Clovis First model) is uninterested in finding anything older than Clovis and withholding that new information from the public. It's just a matter of those who are driven having access to the funds/permission/and seasonal digging time to further investigate the deeper layers and other potential older sites which will lead to the update of knowledge pertaining to earlier migrations.
Exactly. They find sites that are older than what they say about there’s no pre Clovis people. So they do and try everything they can the fudge the numbers to make them not pre Clovis. The site in CONNECTICUT was just tested to 13,000 years ago. And that was totally unexpected so. The older sites are most likely under water. When the ice sheets melted the sea level rose and submerged the oldest sites that were along the rivers and shoreline like most civilizations. So 50+/-miles offshore lies history. Hudson canyon the ancient river gouged a channel which is clearly visible all the way to the shelf I would love to see what that’s hiding. We used to fish there all the time
I appreciate the honest and forthright answers. I always had doubts about the traditional view of a land crossing. It is my understanding that the great migration began in the Southern Hemisphere and migrated north instead of the other way around. There were clearly some advanced civilizations down there. I have yet to see any comparison in North America.
I have read that the South American archaeological sites are older than in NA.
Thank you for this video. I watched it with my husband and he didn't fall asleep!
I read all of W. Michael Gear and Kathleen O'Neal Gear's books. I had to crack up when you talked about the conferences. Archeologists and alcohol. Fun mixture. ;)
Those Gear novels are great reads!
Yes! Finally , an archaeologist who is not a mockingbird lol
Thank you all for the truth
This was a spectacular interview. I'm 2 hours away. Hope to see you there.
Phenomenal presentation and site!
Outstanding lecture, I could spend a lot of time listening to Clark.
Watched this live yesterday and really enjoyed it.
We're so glad you enjoyed it! Our next Virtual Lecture is coming up on October 7. You can find out more here: www.archaeologicalconservancy.org/virtual-lectures-2021-fall/lyons-bluff/
Thanks....very informative .
Very interesting, thanks !
Great work and analysis! Please keep up the awesome work!
Awesome! My parents lived near Florence and I never knew of this site.
That artist made that glacier you show in the beginning, look like the wall from game of thrones.
I toured the Gault Site last year. It was wonderful tour and he is a wonderful tour guide.
Thank You Sir, you have helped me with my last hunt on the east coast. Cheers
Very interesting I will catch up on the other video's I only subscribed to this You Tube channel last week
Love the last comment about using this video to get to sleep. I just tried it; it doesn’t work. I’m looking forward to touring the site in May. In the meantime, my search for videos to help me sleep continues…😅
That was great!
in my younger days in Georgia I fond Clovis points outside of Reynolds near flint river, digging for fish bait .my boss at the time told me about some mounds about 2 to 3 miles from the river
this is so good
With Sea Levels being a lot lower than they are now, more land mass was exposed. Island hopping by boat from both sides of the Americas is a very distinct possibility for global exploration and migration. Add that to the people who were indigenous to the Americans (Red Headed Giants and Hobbits). I don't accept the "Out of Africa" hypothesis. Natured does NOT create only ONE of a thing in only one place. Nature is not only diverse but tenacious as well. Nature creates options for life to take hold.
Facts made fun ! The truth marches on ! Thankyou to all those seek the truth by physical and mental application against those who would keep us ignorant!🙊🙈🙉🌍
Yes I have found a few midden piles/camps myself. Armadillo, deer, turtles or whatever they could get their hands on it seems. I have watched tons of these archeological style videos and this guy is pure logic. Many of these guys taught in certain schools are just text book thinking not common sense drive. "these people had what they needed they stayed" that is so spot on that it is sad this is the first time I've ever heard someone in a video actual make sense.
Watching this 29th of August 2020 in Hastings East Sussex England
What dating methods were used to get your dates and how reliable are those methods?
I've got what I believe to be a clovis point found in Northern Wisconsin. And the guy I know who collects artifacts along the river their and told me what it was, he was none to surprised what I had found.
Here is my perspective on the region called Texas and Southern USA to northern Mexico.
In the last Ice Age, if you can appreciate Canada. The Ice Glacial lowest regions would have imposed tremendous cold weather patterns deeply south into northern Mexico. Much like the lower tundra regions are to Manitoba, Texas would have been cold snowy in winter, warm in summer but not dry as a desert. It would have been tremendously different than today's shirt sleeves in January with occasional jackets.
The northern Mexico and southern US would have been wet and humid. Humans would have only travelled close to the Ice Sheet because food was available there during summer and spring periods. But people knew, being close to the Ice Sheet in summer comes with a cost. You might get washed away. Remember, there are thousands of miles of above the Glacial Ice Mass pooled up water ready to find its way off the ice sheet and down an opening.
This is why I think we find huge numbers of mega fauna bone piles. The animals come north for sweet grass and young growth forage. Then a massive washout occurs and washes everything away. The cycle begins again for the next group of mammals to get lured north to the sweet grass and another group gets engulfed by a washout.
......yes.....points can tell much.....but I think you should put them on the back burner for a bit......How stone tools were made has been misunderstood......I can help
Would you like to see and talk with me about a human fossil footprint and stone tool that I found in western New York? I would love to bring you to the site if you are really looking for east coast sites. I can show you two both in New York. My find I think it might fall in line with the Brendan Nash finds in Michigan as far of the lack of glaciation in that area. I would love to be part of your organization.
Contact someone at Syracuse please.
How can I get some artifacts looked at that I found in Anderson Indiana near Mounds State Park?
How far away from this site would you expect to find human bones?
You ID the work site, the burial site must be nearby?
oh! wow!!! this is neat
Wow. I mean, wow.
Seems to me like the clovis took over an area from whoever the older artifacts belonged to. I would think that most likely there were different tribes on the continent at the same time with different styles and different craftsmanship and different regions of a same people will also have unique styles of crafting.
A good camping spot is a good camping spot.
perhaps the tech took over by spreading from tribe to tribe
Clovis people were Solutreans from Western Europe. Many of them died out during the ice age but some were still here when the Siberian people crossed Beringia and they interbred.
@@TheCoon1975What are you on, dude?
@@uberkloden I take it you disagree with my theory? I don't have room to type out an entire sourced response in a comment here but there's plenty of evidence out there if you're willing to put in some time to research the topic. Or, you know, you can just reply with another snarky ad hominem, which is what I expect.
Back for the last 20 minutes 30/08/22 I take the historical /scientific videos in chunks easier to digest
Archeologists don’t take into cataclysmic geological effects, in Texas, and Arizona.
Let’s be honest. We can only speculate. I am an avid tool enthusiast and find plenty in context and around multiple stone demolition sites that create many similar objects. Amazing how the archeologist dismiss the art and effigy items. Once again we can only speculate a large percentage
I don't think they dig 4 inches in 2-3 months time just to speculate.
speculation is NOT involved in their careful study. Art and efigies are part of the study , just not as cool as the lithic weapons industry . It is really painstakingly slow and that in itself leaves out speculation. By the way I also flint knapped and still have some chert laying around and my tools , antler , and stone billets but also copper tips and grinding stones as well. Speculation is not even in their trained vocabulary and come to think about it , not even in mine either.
@@jacotacomorocco absolutely
@@user-gt3ps1ir6m yeah so now the nonspeculator lived 10,000 years ago. We can use any words you choose. Reality is the box and category routine screams speculation. Logical guess educated guess. No attempts to get hemmed up over wordplay. Same way you look at context and situ of artifacts. Take a look at the context of the post. Use any word you desire. My mind says every couple years as technology evolves the reality of speculation occurs. Politically correct nowadays. Hmm what exactly does speculate really mean. Exactly go look. No interest in nonsense over a word. I will certainly consider the choice of words now. Amazing how people can grab one word and stress some value to a conversation.
@@williamlake6151 Come on william , don't get your panties all in a wad. You mistook my comment to the person who mentioned speculation and I just agreed. I think you read something into my comment or maybe missed my point. After all we ALL have to do some type of SPECULATION , but it should come from LOGIC , or RESEARCH or BOTH . But at some point PROVEABILITY becomes TRUTH because of the EVIDENCE found. BUT if TRUTH is denied and yet some will DENY TRUTH, it does not change TRUTH. Truth is still truth. Or if not speculated correctly it can and will lead to a LIE , or at best a half-truth. I think you got a bit offcourse there mate. Speculation and Dead Reckoning are synonyms . But if you allow the known position to change then the ERROR of the dead reckoning will INCREASE. I don't want you to blow a head gasket now William and get so far off course that you run aground. Or maybe you already have run aground.
I love him. Wish I weren't 82. I'D FIND HIM AND STUDY UNDER HIS TOUTALIDGE.
It sucks getting old
This professor would have been considered a "pseudoarchaeologist" for making these claims 20 years ago. It is so annoying hearing theories labeled "pseudo" for the simple fact that they go against mainstream thinking. As archaeologists we need to keep our minds open to make really great discoveries.
yup. "pseudo" should be reserved for theories that aren't testable but pretend to be scientific
You’re missing an important aspect of Clark Werneke’s claims: evidence. Without evidence, random theories about the peoples of North America is pseudoscience. Werneke’s team found the evidence and developed theories based on the evidence they found. They did the hard work.
Someone making up a “theory” based on pure speculation and without evidence isn’t doing science. If scientists later discover or develop evidence that match the uninformed speculation, that doesn’t confirm the status the speculator as a scientist. It means they were lucky.
If Wernecke’s team had made these discoveries 20 years ago, they wouldn’t have been considered pseudoscientists. They might have encountered resistance and convincing other scientists might have been more challenging 20 years ago, but they wouldn’t have been discredited for making wild claims.
This is how science works. It doesn’t always work perfectly. Orthodoxies form and orthodoxies are demolished by new evidence. Don’t use new discoveries to feed an anti-expert narrative.
All of the artifacts that were thrown away or dismissed… everything needs to be scoured and reviewed for incompetency
I have a native slant. Being a native Athabaskan, we have a site, 43,000 years. I have my own opinion, but who is going to listen to an indigenous.
That's not why people get called pseudo archaeologist, it's because they have crazy conspiracy theories. Graham Hancock, the king of pseudo does zero scientific research and changes historical facts to fit his novels. This doesn't mean that there's not push back on non mainstream ideas.
I'm one of those who pay dug Lindsey camp (Gault site). Only dug down to Andice layer! Great camp, many staggeringly beautiful artifacts!
I’ll be looking in into the school.Is there a washington state office?
Has anyone noticed there is a lot of similarities with Asians and Europeans living at the same time, similar tools and habits and similar practices and motives, a lot of commonality globally with upper paleolithic people, the American story of the same times matches everywhere else. ✌️🤷♂️🇬🇧
I have some sites someone needs to see. Everyone is going to look back on all the places I post this, and laugh so hard. The archeologist, who finally comes to see them, is going to be science-famous.
Where you at?
Poor turtles!! I think they're always the first to disappear in the archaeological record when humans show up.. Natures original fast(or slow) food! Meal and cooking vessel all in one. Just flip it over and start a fire!!
Blue fish cave
I find the vision of modern academics extremely close minded. The one thing most striking is, if you question their long standing perspective on academic studies. Boy oh boy does hate fill their eyes and destruction of the heretic must be directed at you.
Let's look at the fella whom questioned the Scablands that Randall Carlson speaks about. Talk about trash talking a person. Modern Academics went after this man with as much as possible to destroy him personally and professionally.
Dennis Stanford equally questioned North American and South American human existence. Dennis clearly states in his TH-cam releases, he is still looking for western continent existence evidence from Asian Siberian source materials.
But what we have seen is how thorough the Ice Age Wash Out after effects destroyed human existence evidence. But what has been found. Human existence was here long before Siberians. Much like artist brush strokes, human imprinted methods of crafting tools does not support Siberian source tool makers. Dennis Stanford comments about this and proves this. Siberian Tool makers didn't craft highly skilled tools like Clovis Tool makers. Not even close. Then Dennis proves something else. Clovis tool makers were here a long time before Siberian. Then, something happened. In fact, a lot of time passes by before Siberian source people start showing up. Now Dennis says something else, he doesn't exclude East Asian peoples coming to the West Coast access to the North American continent.
At least Dennis wasn't tunnel visioned but leaves a lot of room to expand academics in human existence of North & South America.
Yet they want u to follow the science with COVID but for some reason don’t apply that concept to other things that should also be followed the same way. There’s your lack of a open mind. And denying the evidence.
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I ment 2022 sorry typo this year
You say weather is local and climate is worldwide. I taught science for many years and our books always said weather is over a shorter period of time, or day to day, while climate was over a longer time period, such as annual, or decadal.
Thank you so much, I've been saying for years that in my opinion given the volcanic evidence, the polar shifts, tacking development of language & technology, man's origin point was more likely in Antarctica
37:15 pre Clovis vs Clovis lithics
9:30
I read that the Salutrians were Neanderthal.
Source? I heard there's no skeletons found but the dates are (mostly?) post-Neanderthal
No, they were modern humans. Neanderthal and cromagnon had been outbred or killed off by the time Solutreans took over.
Leanderthal 😅
Maybe more people would watch if important historical works and everything that came before isn't ridiculoed and mocked.
What do you mean?
@@TheCoon1975 There is such a great story there, I could do without be explained to why every past historical analysis and work is wrong. Ya, it's wrong, but older theories lead to new ones and there is so much we don't know. It just came off as pretentious and self important at the beginning...something a lot of academics do. Maybe I just watched it on a bad day. Super interesting story there, wish I could've got past the delivery.
@@watcherofthewest8597 Oh yeah the guy had a really annoying voice for sure.
Sad that only a few pieces are in a museum. Might as well sell them on eBay to find more sites. I can see how monotonous it would be to painstakingly recover small pieces of tools. And what at the end of the day does it tell us? And if it were such a great place, why did they leave or maybe the flood was later than we think. Who knows?
Carbon dating is flawed.
Wondering what Scott Wolters opinion is? As he has a much greater understanding of the story. I believe this site is a distraction, and the stupidity of the land bridge migration is absolutely ridiculous! Geology has proven that some serious catastrophes have occurred in the last 20,000 years or so.
I like the fact that this guy doesn't corroborate the "clovis story"...😎
Most interesting to me is the horses. I've been lead to believe through different speakers horses were introduced to the America's by the spanards. Wich never made sense to me they could spread so fast to have western natives all be expert riders by the time Americans were heading west
Horses, early species, evolved in North America during the Eocene and Miocene time. Horse teeth are sometimes found here in Virginia. They migrated into Asia, along with a number of other species like camels, and they died off during the Pleistocene times. So, there were no horses here until the Spanish explorers brought them to SW US.
They had horses they stole from the Spanish since the 1500s so they had almost 300 years to master them before the westward expansion of the USA.
I would hate to show an archeologist my collection of stone carved portable art in the shape of Mammoths and other extinct creatures found in the bottom of a gravel pit . I have no desire to hear them deny these works of art are not what they clearly appear to be .
Clovis first today! Clovis first tomorrow! Clovis first forever!
What? Archeological evidence exists that predates Clovis by thousands of years?
DRATS!
LOL...... yep.
Brilliant mind here! 👏🙌👌Clovis; Pre-Clovis, Prehistoric, Megolithic,🗿all are based on Human Tools, & the Artworking of Stone. Geo-Time-Dating helps prove the age of these. Dating can also be by recognizing the type of Stone, & the SPECIFIC craftsmanship of each item. Why a Museum doesn't specialize in only these Mona Lisa objects, is beyond comprehension. I would be happy to donate several of the earliest Quarzatite Tools to have ever been created by anyone. Yes harder then Flint; older then, the Adamic or any other known Culture; & are impossible to recreate, by Knapping. Museum WORTHY; you bet.
I loved this . Having collected 36 Clovis points over my 50 years of collecting, from all over North America some over 5 1/4 inches and heavily published and discovering firsthand in deep dig excavations in Alaska, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, and Mexico , yielding those food sources of Mammoth, Old World Moose, Smilodon, Camelops, bison antiquis , three toed horse , sloth, cave bear. I was always intrigued by early man or even "manlike beings" ( homoinins) who chased the Mammoth and other fauna . Being a DIFFUSIONIST , I reject the Beringia only theory because of obvious age differences on eastern and deep southern paleolithic or possibly neolithic cultures. I believe Gault is significant as you said, because of the abundance and continuance of a STABLE H2O supply FIRST, then a sustainable FAUNA and FLORA supply, SECOND . The fact that BOTH are found at this sight with over 15,000 years of OCCUPATION, and CONTINUAL OCCUPATION at that , shoots down the ROVER theory of the "old" Beringia theorist. Finding a culture of ocean vessel sailing hominoids or hominins, or whatever these real EARLY , manlike beings were , show how all of this comes together in some type of specific order thru your diligence at Gault , It has shown us something down below the so called Clovis culture level. With such a RICH small parcel that your teams and others there , excavated and researched , over a relatively short period , leads one to think that only a short untouched site is yet to yield even more of what and who camped, hunted, and gathered at the Gault site area or those just areas within earshot of it . The possibilities are huge . Who knows if European , Solutrean, Magdalenian periods etc, or their ancestors CAME over here, long before the Clovis culture . You could have possibly been only 300-1000 yards away from a site just waiting for its discovery and new treasures , and truths to yield forth. Forever changing the Peopling of America and its AGES. Surely that is a possibility and seems very durable as well as likely, probable and even provable. Why would a something so small as an Ocean , restrict a manlike being, from circumventing the globe from far away continents, even settling as they go? Settling and Occupying long term just like the Gault. I believe Gault is a ONE of a kind place , especially in North or South America but also anywhere on Earth. You and others who worked there have shown that and some of the old theorist are not happy with that work you and your teams have done. Reputations have been destroyed and harmed as TRUTH rightly destroys theories . You brought up a very important point in your video concerning what you referred to as the older and deeper the site , the harder for evidentiary recovery, being destroyed or lost to the elements and time. Whether lithic , stone , bone or fauna or flora or carbon debitage (evidence) some, as you said, just did not survive. I agree with you and Dr Stanford , Dr Collins and the late Robson Bonnichsen . Diffusionist is the TRUTH of early man like beings traveling the waters and the land and coming upon an Eden like Gault place, could yield something older than Monte Verde or anywhere else for that matter. And only time and more research will yield that truth. Look at how many of the naysayers you have proved wrong already with your work at Gault . NOW PLEASE GET BACK TO DIGGING Sir. We are all waiting for what is next.
Hopefully your grammar in your publishing is better than your writings here. Or maybe you published in TikTok, which, I'm sorry, doesn't count towards your credentials.
@@DucDNA or @T-Dawg Dawg , or @Ducsoup . LEAVE us alone , scorner and get back to your therapist.
@@user-gt3ps1ir6m No. You stop distorting people's comments and learn how to read, and then I will leave imposters who pretend to be published archaeologists like you alone. I think you are projecting with your therapists comments. You seem to be speaking from a position of personal experience when you bring up therapy.
@@user-gt3ps1ir6m And just to educate you, Duc is short for Ducati, something you'll never afford to own or have the skills to ride.
@@DucDNA ???
Has Big Academe declared the 'Science Settled',
when dealing with Anthropology?
And who owes who an Apology?
WAIT!!
The Paisley Underground was in Washington State all along?
Who knew? The Go-Gos?
So 'Going Gault' was a thing during the WisCAAAANsin Ice Age too?
Another HUUUGE mistake. In Current Venezuela, we find the OLDEST PART OF THE EARTH. Meaning, where Pangea first emerged from the earth. Hence, WE ARE THE OLD WORLD. NOT THE NEW WORLD. It is not our fault, Coloumbis was lost at sea in 1492. We were already here!!!! As I conjectured as a Child, Why did Humans not emerge from this land mass as well? we look nothing like anybody else on the planet😉😉
la humanidad originada en un punto es más parsimoniosa
Old world and New world have nothing to do with human origins. Pangaea was a billion years ago, humans have only existed as a species for about a half million years at the absolute longest you could consider them human. Your DNA tells the truth and it says that everyone on the Americas is descended from people that crossed Beringia from Siberia and across the Pacific from Polynesia along with a small signal from Western Europe that came down the Atlantic coast. There's no shame in being a human being anyway so no need to deny science. We're all the same beyond slight differences in phenotypes.
Being Maya/Caribe, I have always rejected the white mans version of our origins. If you really want to know, ask an Original Civilization Person. We do not need validationnof the white Man, to know we are NOT ASIAN.
Your name is Spanish, you must have European ancestry. No hominids evolved in the Americas, everyone on Earth comes from North Africa and Central Asia. Humans had to migrate to the western hemisphere either by the Atlantic coast from Europe, from Siberia across Beringia, or across the Pacific from Polynesia. Genetic evidence shows that all three of those routes contributed to the DNA of all indigenous Americans.
Dr. Clark Wernecke's message is lost in his condescending and sarcastic delivery. I couldn't take more than 5 minutes of listening to him. He seems to have an axe to grind or something. He should be more professional in his presentation if he expects anyone to listen to his ramblings.
To me you sound like the one with the ax to grind not being able to think outside the box..... sad.
Actually @DucDNA , it is you who hates the great work of the discovery of such importance , and since it rubs you raw because your in the "wrong camp" just hurts that much more. I would just suck it up and start to try to listen and learn what exciting things have been happening , perhaps changing the very field before us all . Otherwise you will die in your stubborness and hate anything new under the sun.
@@sullyway51 I totally agree with you sir.
@@user-gt3ps1ir6m It's obvious you have a reading comprehension problem. I don't know how you got any of that from what I wrote. You should find a another hobby you are better at because mind reading is not your thing.
Dr. Clark Wernecke has put together an interesting HYPOTHESIS, but it's just one data point. Everyone before him also had hypotheses supported by data, but Dr. Clark Wernecke arrogantly and ignorantly dismisses all of their work. That is a trait of a close minded ego centric jerk, not a scientist. The archaeologists before him gave him a starting point to work from yet he craps on all of them.
Archaeology is ever evolving as new information is revealed. The peopling of the Americas is complex. The human discovery of technology is also complex. Just because archaeologic evidence may no longer exist for some things, such as written language before the Sumerians, for example, does not mean someone or some culture didn't invent it thousands of years before the Sumerians. It just means it wasn't wide spread or in a form that can survive the test of time, such as clay tablets or stone carvings.
Do yourself a favor, and work on your reading comprehension before responding to people's posts. Also, quit your job as an amateur mind reader because quite frankly, you suck at it.
@@user-gt3ps1ir6m Why do you assume they are a "sir"? That's pretty ignorant of you.
If this site is pre Clovis show me other sites that have similar artifacts that are supposed to be pre Clovis. It has been dug for decades and occupation from Clovis on is absolute. I just do not buy anything earlier than Clovis without significant distribution. Texas is not the first area the first Americans lived or anything close. A single site near water that has been dug for decades can could have been disrupted by a change in water flow, growth of trees, etc. If any of the " pre Clovis" artifacts are legit they would have been found in other Clovis sites. A single location in the southern U.S., mmmmm I do not buy it. The Clovis entered the new world when the ice sheets retreated and allowed it, not before. Two thirds of the new world was covered by think ice buildups that can down to the mid west. Only when the land bridge open did any humans get here not before. One site does not push back proof of the first Americans being hear before Clovis. No such thing as a native American as every human immigrated from the old world. I still think the Clovis people were first. The land bridge also allowed the first horse and camel to move into the old world about the same time. These are what i call native to the new world.
The Clovis people were the Solutreans from Western Europe. They migrated down the Atlantic coast by boat before the LGM and then many died off but the few that remained eventually met the newcomers from Beringia and were absorbed into their greater population as the ice retreated.
This guy is nuts! I cannot listen to him.
Only because you seem incapable of thinking outside the box.
Then move on Howie , MOVE ON.
HORRIBLE PRESENTATION, SPENT TOO MUCH TIME CRITICIZING OTHERS