Considering that the Pacific was settled many thousands of years ago, and that Polynesians were (and are) very capable mariners, and given the wide distribution of various forms of humanity (genus Homo) roamed widely, I have always wondered at the scientific insistence on such shallow dates for human habitation of the Americas. Excellent presentation.
Antarctica could also have been used as a land bridge to go from / to Africa, South America and Australia. It's a two days sailing journey from the tip of South America to Antarctica and it is of a similar length to sail from South Africa to Antarctica. From Australia, it takes about a week. Antarctica could provide seal meat and fat for long trips and for waterproofing skin boats.
@@HepCatJack well, that would make sense if they found African DNA in the Americas first inhabitants. There are several ancient human fossils of the Americas first inhabitants, none have Afro DNA, NONE! It's also been known for a long time that diet and environment can dictate ur physical appearance including hair texture and skin color. Seems like the features that ppl think r unique to Black Africans, r not. It's been known for a long time that the Aboriginals of Australia r NOT from Africa, they are from Asia, Eurasia, Polynesia, Oceana to be exact. The Negritos from the Philippines r also not from Africa, they are also from Asia. The discovery of the Denivosons is very significant. There is no, or next to none Denovisan DNA in Africa. The Negritos from the Philippines and the Natives of the Americas and the Natives of New Zealand and Oceana and the Aboriginals of Australia carry it. Some carry more than others but they carry it in a very convincing pattern. Seems like there was a migration out of Asia and they hit so many continents! It happened a very long time ago, very long time ago, in time, U will know. Have faith in younger generation of "experts", don't think they will all squander their real meaning to mankind like the older archiologists and anthropology . Don't think they will be that dogmatic about the "expert" BS that we have been fed.
The footprints are one piece but the issue is that there is no other evidence…like tools, fossils, structures,etc. can’t really have a definitive theory without more evidence
I note not many Clovis points or sites have been found in Arizona. I found one that as best as I can tell I'm the only one who knows where it is beside my point-hunting buddy but he's an old geezer like I am and his memory is fading fast. I'm 71 so I probably won't be around long to tell the story either...😬But I've never told anyone the exact location. I'll disclose it to you if you're interested. Here's a video I made talking about it. th-cam.com/video/dibw1EEG4AM/w-d-xo.html
Ancient history is essential for everyone to know, especially the sixteen original civilizations. 1. The first inhabitants of Italy (K) 2. Thracians (L) 3. Siberians (N) 4. East Assists (O) 5. Medes (PQ) 6.. Western Europeans (R) 7. Mediterranean Greek sea people (T) 8. Hebrews and Arabic (IJ) 9. Elamites (H) 10. Assyrians (G) 11. Arameans (F1) 12. Lydians (F2) 13. Cushites (AB, C & D) 14. Egyptians (E3) 15. Canaanites (E2) 16. Original North African Phoenicians (E1)
Based on the Footprints in 23,000, the paradigm has been much changed about pre-history in America. It 's important that no Mongoloid (since 25-10,000 BP, Dr. William Howells) existed in American continents in that period, Bering strait situation was quite different from the image of Beringia in LGM and no mammoth hunters, so to speak. It was not "express" migration to South America, but "local" slow one. So, standstill model is also not suitable as Ice Free Corridor had been opened up much earlier before 25,000 BP. Not only Siberian, but proto-Japanese Hokkaido Sojin(not Jomon, Ainu) in big northern island (actually connected with Sahalin in that period) of Japanese archipelago are candidates of First Americans. -SGPJ
" *Ice Free Corridor had been opened up much earlier before 25,000 BP* " No, it wasn't open. As far as I understand, newer publications practically dismiss the corridor migration hypothesis. They could trace the migration of American Bison, and Northern Bison (for lack of a better word), and they have met much later than earlier proposed. Basically, the corridor opened a bit later, and it was basically a desert. When bison moved in, it was finally suitable for sustaining life. That's when the human migration could have taken place, and it's really late. I don't remember the latest estimate, but it's way too late. People came to Americas by boats. That's pretty much the only feasible explanation.
@@bakters People live on the ice and have for thousands of years. It is not impossible to live on the ice using Stone Age technology much of it pretty much the same as Inuit of today use. Skin boats, spears, nets and traps. The dna evidence proves a large contribution to modern native dna originated from areas that are now north east Siberia and China.
@@williambrandondavis6897 " *People live on the ice* " On *sea ice* , yes, they do. Both people and animals. On land ice? Even penguins don't nest on ice, there is no life on the interior of Antarctica. North Canada would have looked pretty much like that 20K ya. " *Skin boats* " It seems we agree on that. Yes, I think they used boats. A lot and often. " *dna originated from areas that are now north east Siberia and China* " Yes, that's a given. But it's also interesting to ponder if people did not cross the Atlantic too. Those footprints pretty much prove, that people *had to* cross some ice sheets in order to get to Americas, which does make this hypothesis slightly more probable. And I like that, because I was told I was crazy thinking it's even possible, by people who likely never sailed.
It would seem more reasonable to presume migration from south to north, stopping at/near the glacial line in the Americas… at least for the time necessary for the glacier to retreat and allow real walking access from Beringia.
In the 80s some of these prints were being chiseled out for or by collectors. Don't know where they were but it sounds the same. I hope they will be preserved from theives
Ok great, so when and how did they arrive and where did they come from? We're trying to figure out real answers to these questions so if you have a theory please share your thoughts and we can discuss them.
@Old Seer God said He made many nations & languages & led each nation 2 lands He determined they should live, each with their own language. N.A. still speak the languages God gave each of the many 1000's of tribes on this continent or some now speak imported European languages. The Imported Nigerian, Congo, Igboo, Benin Togo African slaves were forbidden 2 speak their African languages & were made 2 speak English, Portuguese & Spanish languages..
@@stormy-le6pb The majority of the western hemisphere speaks Spanish, not English. There are roughly as many Portuguese speakers as English in the western hemisphere so English is only the 3rd most common language in the new world.
@@stormy-le6pb I get it but in the larger context of the European control of the western hemisphere the English influence in the US is peanuts compared to South and Central America and the absolute domination of the Spanish and Portuguese who completely conquered and converted the vast majority of the indigenous peoples into subjects of the Catholic empire. The English get way too much credit for their feeble efforts.
So important to get modern people who happen to live in the area +15,000 years later with absolutely no cultural, genetic or archaeological evidence connecting them at all. They ain't going to include me in the next Paleo find in Ireland or southern England. But it's so important to include modern indigenous groups. Give me a break
At first i thought this was a bit of a wild statement but no you're right. If we're going to use verbal origin stories and all these other things by modern indegenous groups, we need to establish they have even inhabited the area for as long as they say they have because it could very well be a story passed down from an entirely diffferent geographic area with no relation to the archeological site that is being questioned.
Ok, so there's thousands of ice age animal feet print everywhere and they dated the tracks to roughly 30,000 years ago but when it comes to the human animal tracks they don't know the age? lolol It's only because of this stupid theory that humans got here 14,000 years ago. And, if a mammoth stepped on a human track/foot print while the mud was still wet common sense would dictate that the weight of the mammoth would obliterate the human track, lol and there would absolutely be nothing left of the human track. They just do not want to believe that humans were here waaay before 14,000 years ago, it's just plumb silly.
This is only approx. 2k yrs of Oral Tradition. May be a bit longer, or shorter. No one really knows. 2k yrs. is def. known however. The people call themselves "Dineh" with Navaho given to them by the Anasazi, who called them Navaho. Regardless of the regurgitated definition of Anasazi meaning "Ancient Enemy"/"Enemy Ancestor" and the likes, it simply does not. They can't be ancestors of the Dineh. The Dineh came from the East. Despite others (outsiders who write the histories of the indigenous, without their input, and Oral Tradition is a life long learning process even for the indigenous. The eldest has the most and passes it on, but it is repeated via song, prayer and chant. It is nothing like the 'game of telephone". A child is chosen very young. They are taught daily, and there is an age appropriate learning to it all. Just as you know the lyrics to hundreds of thousands songs, sayings, commercials, it is similar in that way. Hell you sing the "A.B.C.'s" same difference. The Dineh journey from the East towards the west. They saw and crossed big rivers, and once they crossed those, the came upon a sea of grass, as far as one could see. They made home on the panhandle Tx, Ok. and Kansas. Once the scouts returned, they began their journey westward, until they reached what is now the colorado Plateau. IT IS THIS STEPPING UP, meaning they came up from the lower world or bottom world. All of the descendent tribes of the Anasazi, have this concept of being brought up into this current world, from a previous didster. el
Well you know Great basins are key, but a little known basin in alamosa Colorado holds the key to the evolution of Neanderthal into the people in north and south america. It too has a sandy micro climate. This is were man started in the America's.
Wow- you have presented a rambling jumble of tired ass theory taking 32 mins to touch on your title! You left out most of the Clovis density in the South East. A fascinating subject presented as classic boring history talk.
Fantastic job
Considering that the Pacific was settled many thousands of years ago, and that Polynesians were (and are) very capable mariners, and given the wide distribution of various forms of humanity (genus Homo) roamed widely, I have always wondered at the scientific insistence on such shallow dates for human habitation of the Americas. Excellent presentation.
Volcano tidal waves earthquakes and bad weather they had to work for it ,the ancient ocean was much lower shoreline, find your carbon 14 sample!
Antarctica could also have been used as a land bridge to go from / to Africa, South America and Australia. It's a two days sailing journey from the tip of South America to Antarctica and it is of a similar length to sail from South Africa to Antarctica. From Australia, it takes about a week. Antarctica could provide seal meat and fat for long trips and for waterproofing skin boats.
@@HepCatJack well, that would make sense if they found African DNA in the Americas first inhabitants. There are several ancient human fossils of the Americas first inhabitants, none have Afro DNA, NONE! It's also been known for a long time that diet and environment can dictate ur physical appearance including hair texture and skin color. Seems like the features that ppl think r unique to Black Africans, r not. It's been known for a long time that the Aboriginals of Australia r NOT from Africa, they are from Asia, Eurasia, Polynesia, Oceana to be exact. The Negritos from the Philippines r also not from Africa, they are also from Asia. The discovery of the Denivosons is very significant. There is no, or next to none Denovisan DNA in Africa. The Negritos from the Philippines and the Natives of the Americas and the Natives of New Zealand and Oceana and the Aboriginals of Australia carry it. Some carry more than others but they carry it in a very convincing pattern. Seems like there was a migration out of Asia and they hit so many continents! It happened a very long time ago, very long time ago, in time, U will know. Have faith in younger generation of "experts", don't think they will all squander their real meaning to mankind like the older archiologists and anthropology . Don't think they will be that dogmatic about the "expert" BS that we have been fed.
@teresafernandez9849 abso-flipping-lutely. I couldn't agree more. Well said.
Well it took them long enough to get to New Zealand …
So amazing
I don't know why, but I laughed so hard at those 2 old bitties @1:41
The footprints are one piece but the issue is that there is no other evidence…like tools, fossils, structures,etc. can’t really have a definitive theory without more evidence
How else would you explain the footprints
The evidence that is found by citizens is ignored, and we are not allowed to date things. Our history is literally throttled.
Moving the goal posts
You got that right 😂😂😂
@@MrSammer1972it was Bigfoot 😅😅😅
I note not many Clovis points or sites have been found in Arizona. I found one that as best as I can tell I'm the only one who knows where it is beside my point-hunting buddy but he's an old geezer like I am and his memory is fading fast. I'm 71 so I probably won't be around long to tell the story either...😬But I've never told anyone the exact location. I'll disclose it to you if you're interested. Here's a video I made talking about it.
th-cam.com/video/dibw1EEG4AM/w-d-xo.html
Ancient history is essential for everyone to know, especially the sixteen original civilizations.
1. The first inhabitants of Italy (K)
2. Thracians (L)
3. Siberians (N)
4. East Assists (O)
5. Medes (PQ)
6.. Western Europeans (R)
7. Mediterranean Greek sea people (T)
8. Hebrews and Arabic (IJ)
9. Elamites (H)
10. Assyrians (G)
11. Arameans (F1)
12. Lydians (F2)
13. Cushites (AB, C & D)
14. Egyptians (E3)
15. Canaanites (E2)
16. Original North African Phoenicians (E1)
Based on the Footprints in 23,000, the paradigm has been much changed about pre-history in America. It 's important that no Mongoloid (since 25-10,000 BP, Dr. William Howells) existed in American continents in that period, Bering strait situation was quite different from the image of Beringia in LGM and no mammoth hunters, so to speak. It was not "express" migration to South America, but "local" slow one. So, standstill model is also not suitable as Ice Free Corridor had been opened up much earlier before 25,000 BP. Not only Siberian, but proto-Japanese Hokkaido Sojin(not Jomon, Ainu) in big northern island (actually connected with Sahalin in that period) of Japanese archipelago are candidates of First Americans. -SGPJ
" *Ice Free Corridor had been opened up much earlier before 25,000 BP* "
No, it wasn't open. As far as I understand, newer publications practically dismiss the corridor migration hypothesis. They could trace the migration of American Bison, and Northern Bison (for lack of a better word), and they have met much later than earlier proposed.
Basically, the corridor opened a bit later, and it was basically a desert. When bison moved in, it was finally suitable for sustaining life. That's when the human migration could have taken place, and it's really late. I don't remember the latest estimate, but it's way too late.
People came to Americas by boats. That's pretty much the only feasible explanation.
@@bakters People live on the ice and have for thousands of years. It is not impossible to live on the ice using Stone Age technology much of it pretty much the same as Inuit of today use. Skin boats, spears, nets and traps. The dna evidence proves a large contribution to modern native dna originated from areas that are now north east Siberia and China.
@@williambrandondavis6897 " *People live on the ice* "
On *sea ice* , yes, they do. Both people and animals. On land ice? Even penguins don't nest on ice, there is no life on the interior of Antarctica.
North Canada would have looked pretty much like that 20K ya.
" *Skin boats* "
It seems we agree on that. Yes, I think they used boats. A lot and often.
" *dna originated from areas that are now north east Siberia and China* "
Yes, that's a given. But it's also interesting to ponder if people did not cross the Atlantic too.
Those footprints pretty much prove, that people *had to* cross some ice sheets in order to get to Americas, which does make this hypothesis slightly more probable.
And I like that, because I was told I was crazy thinking it's even possible, by people who likely never sailed.
It would seem more reasonable to presume migration from south to north, stopping at/near the glacial line in the Americas… at least for the time necessary for the glacier to retreat and allow real walking access from Beringia.
In the 80s some of these prints were being chiseled out for or by collectors. Don't know where they were but it sounds the same.
I hope they will be preserved from theives
the idaho doll drillers found?
humans were on the North American and South America thousand of years and long before anyone traveled over any Bearing straights.
Ok great, so when and how did they arrive and where did they come from? We're trying to figure out real answers to these questions so if you have a theory please share your thoughts and we can discuss them.
@Old Seer God said He made many nations & languages & led each nation 2 lands He determined they should live, each with their own language. N.A. still speak the languages God gave each of the many 1000's of tribes on this continent or some now speak imported European languages. The Imported Nigerian, Congo, Igboo, Benin Togo African slaves were forbidden 2 speak their African languages & were made 2 speak English, Portuguese & Spanish languages..
@@stormy-le6pb The majority of the western hemisphere speaks Spanish, not English. There are roughly as many Portuguese speakers as English in the western hemisphere so English is only the 3rd most common language in the new world.
@@JackParsons2 I was thinking about just the U.S. but yes, I forgot about the Spanish speakers.
@@stormy-le6pb I get it but in the larger context of the European control of the western hemisphere the English influence in the US is peanuts compared to South and Central America and the absolute domination of the Spanish and Portuguese who completely conquered and converted the vast majority of the indigenous peoples into subjects of the Catholic empire. The English get way too much credit for their feeble efforts.
So important to get modern people who happen to live in the area +15,000 years later with absolutely no cultural, genetic or archaeological evidence connecting them at all.
They ain't going to include me in the next Paleo find in Ireland or southern England. But it's so important to include modern indigenous groups. Give me a break
At first i thought this was a bit of a wild statement but no you're right. If we're going to use verbal origin stories and all these other things by modern indegenous groups, we need to establish they have even inhabited the area for as long as they say they have because it could very well be a story passed down from an entirely diffferent geographic area with no relation to the archeological site that is being questioned.
@@asrielkekker well said. If we are going to be scientists, let's say when we know things, when we don't, and differentiate facts and conjecture.
Thanksgiving is a holiday 😂😂😂
Ok, so there's thousands of ice age animal feet print everywhere and they dated the tracks to roughly 30,000 years ago but when it comes to the human animal tracks they don't know the age? lolol It's only because of this stupid theory that humans got here 14,000 years ago. And, if a mammoth stepped on a human track/foot print while the mud was still wet common sense would dictate that the weight of the mammoth would obliterate the human track, lol and there would absolutely be nothing left of the human track. They just do not want to believe that humans were here waaay before 14,000 years ago, it's just plumb silly.
where are all the bones?????? people were in Americas long before that.
This is only approx. 2k yrs of Oral Tradition. May be a bit longer, or shorter. No one really knows. 2k yrs. is def. known however. The people call themselves "Dineh" with Navaho given to them by the Anasazi, who called them Navaho.
Regardless of the regurgitated definition of Anasazi meaning "Ancient Enemy"/"Enemy Ancestor" and the likes, it simply does not. They can't be ancestors of the Dineh. The Dineh came from the East. Despite others (outsiders who write the histories of the indigenous, without their input, and Oral Tradition is a life long learning process even for the indigenous. The eldest has the most and passes it on, but it is repeated via song, prayer and chant. It is nothing like the 'game of telephone". A child is chosen very young. They are taught daily, and there is an age appropriate learning to it all. Just as you know the lyrics to hundreds of thousands songs, sayings, commercials, it is similar in that way. Hell you sing the "A.B.C.'s" same difference.
The Dineh journey from the East towards the west. They saw and crossed big rivers, and once they crossed those, the came upon a sea of grass, as far as one could see. They made home on the panhandle Tx, Ok. and Kansas. Once the scouts returned, they began their journey westward, until they reached what is now the colorado Plateau. IT IS THIS STEPPING UP, meaning they came up from the lower world or bottom world. All of the descendent tribes of the Anasazi, have this concept of being brought up into this current world, from a previous didster.
el
Why title this The First Americans? Kinda unscientific
He has a good imagination 😂😂
It's right to date these but when a mammoth track overlaps a human print just requires common sense. Try digging much deeper.
They came from South America 😂
1:23 what the hell was that? Lol
Well you know Great basins are key, but a little known basin in alamosa Colorado holds the key to the evolution of Neanderthal into the people in north and south america. It too has a sandy micro climate. This is were man started in the America's.
They just dropped into the middle of Colorado from, where exactly?
Wow- you have presented a rambling jumble of tired ass theory taking 32 mins to touch on your title! You left out most of the Clovis density in the South East. A fascinating subject presented as classic boring history talk.
goodness the interrupting cows out in full force here made this borderline unwatchable with their super rude and super uninspired attitudes
Hes lying about the time.