ikr, like i thought he it was always earth, the ending i just figured history repeats itself and humans lost without the advanced human. the criss crossing ihad no idea about, adds a whole new layer, a sequel would have explained it im sure, but too bad we never got it.
Well it wouldn't make sense because hes from the future and it didnt happen in his history he would know his own history since it happened already and since it didnt happen it never happened
I always assumed the ending meant that the apes were doomed to repeat the mistakes of man no matter what, but your take does clean up a few loose ends.
His explanation is not the best if you think about it... if the apes changed history... how in the f can the new "ape" history copy humans history so perfectly, down to an ape Abraham Lincoln... his explanation makes no sense, even the director and writers have said the ending was just made up to beat the originals ending.
@@smit1000 except the movie’s end is the books ending and the explanation does make sense. The problem isn’t time travel but like you said copying human history with a ape twist to it. Here’s the thing though, everything we have is nothing more than a modified and improved version of what we already had in the past and depending on what year the apes landed they can just take over and pick up where we left off. Abraham Lincoln wasn’t the first president so if they landed a few years before or during his reign then they could take over and that’s how you get Apebraham Lincoln. Before that it was the era of Kings and Queens before the world (or atleast the us) became a democracy so same thing.
@@dennissanfilippo8836 actually it is, the original planet of the apes movie is the one that changed the ending the remake stuck to the book. There are 2 separate planets and the protagonist was never on earth the whole time and the apes did take over our earth. HOWEVER the remake didn’t finish the books ending and ended the movie too soon because the protagonist was never arrested by the apes.
I never understood why people hated this movie or didn't like it. The movie is supposed to be crazy and weird, the costumes and story are different from any other movie and very creative and cool. Reminds me Dark Crystal, very dark and adventurous. It's a weird concept so why can't it be a *WEIRD MOVIE??!!* I liked it when I first saw it.
It's because certain smart ass channels like Everything Wrong With have made it cool to turn around and ridicule things that most people thought were cool. It's mainly content for zoomers who weren't there.
It is a movie that surprises all the time, surely those who did not like it were those who were fans of the previous ones, but this is hevha in another way, I like it and wow what an incredible ending, how many have gone more than one go to the movies to understand that unexpected ending.
@@mr_rogersM320 this movie was back in 2001, im pretty sure a lot of people hated it and this was WAY years ago before youtube existed. Hence why it didnt get a sequel. Either ways, the trilogy reboot/prequels is very awesome tho.
@@ianfudo5040 Why are you telling me when this movie came out? I saw it in theatres. Didn't hear anyone griping until blogs and youtube came out, which made it cool to make fun of literally everything for clout.
@@generalyellor8188 the plot wasn’t that bad and the acting was spot on. I know you only hate it because “iT iS nOtHiNg LiKe ThE oRiGiNaL” and maybe it shouldn’t have been
Finally someone thinking like me. I liked this film a lot and never understood why it is so hated. It was my first DVD and even the first movie I bought, and that even without knowing the film beforehand! The makeup, the characters, the costumes, the twist, the tributes to the old films, it was really good!
harrylongbaugh1 especially the make-up instead of cgi! I love practical effects. it bothers me less, when there is a little stiffness in the faces because of the mask, than aged cgi
Zappel Practical effects will always be timeless, but you'd have to be arrogant not to admit that the apes in War for the Planet of the Apes looked indistinguishable from life.
harrylongbaugh1 I would never go that far. And all the movies are about how humans are bad, and how we have to prove worthy of survival. Especially the original.
Everyone remembers the twist ending of the 1968 original along with Cesar saying No. What a lot of fans of The Planet of the Apes franchise is the jaw dropping moment in the 2001 film "General Thade" outstretching his arm and pointing the gun at Leo. Granted it lacks the impact of the "Cesar No" moment but just think of a moment. Thade just by sniffing and studying the gun for a single moment figures out how to hold it and use it...oh and the look of total shock and horror on Leo's face is priceless
I have my own opinion about this movie. When I watched it as a child, it amazed me. I have always hoped for a sequel to be made. It is unfortunate that Tim and the production team did not receive the recognition they deserved. The movie was made with great attention to detail and passion. It would be great if they could connect the existing storyline with the newer films and the 2001 Apes movie. On a different note, the scene where Mark Wahlberg's character returns to space through the rift always gives me chills. The music perfectly complements the moment. I find it haunting and satisfying. The ending is one of the best and leaves you wanting more.
It would have, if the reviews were better. There was more said and done in this film that went over many folks heads...Just like today. Many folks don't pay attention to dialogue for key thoughts the writers put in.
@@pawfan Exactly. I think the main problem is that too many people kept comparing it to the original with Charleton Heston, which was a bit more straightforward with it's narrative for people to understand. Plus, some of the parallels between this one and original didn't help either honestly.
"What you hold in your hand is the proof of their power. Their power of invention! Their power of technology! Against this, our strength means nothing! This has the power of a thousand spears! I warn you their ingenuity goes hand in hand with their cruelty. No creature is as devious, as violent." - Zaius He's not exactly wrong.
The same would happen to any species that evolved like humans with civilizations, writing, science and technology. Once an animal becomes intelligent to create these things, they first develop an ego or a sense of self. Once that happens, an animal or creature has a sense of self, they then recognize that they have possessions. Having possessions makes a 'self' want more. Then a system of specialties is created so that one self/animal does one thing that individuals need and others do other things that are needed. Then they create a system of bartering and exchanging their work, service, utensils for someone else's, then an economy develops and before you know it there are Walmarts popping up all over the place (or maybe Wahlbergs). And then one self/animal has more than others and they employ many people and working just to pay rent while one percent of them run the place and create problems that everyone else is jealous of. All that comes with intelligence. Thinking that there are going to be societies somewhere that have the foresight to avoid competition and wars is kind of a childish idea of societies and the nature of individuals and the species as a whole, like human nature. We all hate war, but it's human nature to want more of something and compete for dominance to attain it. War was and is inevitable. It's human nature and it would be the nature of any species that developed intelligence.
Interesting points. I Do think it is possible that eventually a civilization could become so advanced that war and physical conflict would become obsolete.
@@ddddd9665 Since, imo, war and crime became a thing due to intelligence, which results in ego (sense of me and mine), which are human nature, it would take evolving into another species, to whom a sense of self and possession don't have the same expression. Maybe that is something like Odo's species in Deep Space 9, that exists as a liquid like thing that is part of ocean of similar beings with no boundaries of self.
I remember hearing that Burton filmed 5 different endings for this film - one being the original film’s ending, and no one knew which he would use. To my knowledge, those endings have never been released, but I’d love to see them.
The ending is actually almost the same as the ending in the original book. The astronaut gets back to Earth and finds out apes rule there also. Just uses DC instead of Paris.
@@HTMN161 I know. But it was still almost exactly how the book ended. Just without him leaving again, and future chimps in a solar sail spaceship finding his note in space.
Thank you. This movie is so underrated, and undeservedly so. It was a marvel and still is today. The craft and dedication in the ape society and cosplay alone are quite possibly unmatched.
The film could've taken the book's ending even further with its prologue and epilogue; two ape astronauts find the Mark Wahlberg character's account of the film's story and dismiss it as fiction because, to them, human intelligence doesn't exist.
The Thing was far removed from the original, same with others like Thin Red Line...Also, for your information, The Thing was critically bashed when it first came out, Ebert is on record as saying it's nothing but shock value crap. But that's just Carpenter being ahead of his time.
general Thade single handedly made this entire movie. He was so deep in nature and character and I fully understand his motives and fears. I think Tim Roth was astounding in the film. It was way better than what Mark Whalberg could lead in my opinion. The ending was so fitting and I felt made it even more clear that there wasnt a right and wrong or good Vs evil in the film. Different perspectives with one driven by fear and the other driven by empathy.
@@Perkeletricksterservantofrher uh yeah just because a movie gets discussed doesn't make it a cult classic lol. This movie literally never gets discussed in the planet of the apes fandom outside of people calling it a failure. Also bashing a movie also doesn't make it a cult classic. I will bash the movie "earth girls are easy" till the day I die and I can assure you that movie is not a cult classic
The whole last in first out (and reversed) is pretty understandable and yet still really weird and hard to believe, I think even if you have seen a lot of other sci fi. That apes (probably Thade) could repair the other capsule and would want to and did take over Earth is yet weirder and less believable.
I'll try to explain: You have two parallel freeways (A and B) connected by a bridge. If you wanted to get to freeway B from freeway A you just take the bridge. Only thing is if you are near the end of freeway A and cross the bridge you arrive at the beginning of freeway B! This works for both freeways. (If you are at end of freeway B and cross bridge you arrive at start of Freeway A) So to put into context: The chimp on Freeway A crosses bridge first and arrives at the end of Freeway B. The spaceship on Freeway A crossed bridge last so ends up at the beginning of Freeway B! What is said in the video is that the apes (on Freeway B) finally found out how to cross the bridge waaaay later, so they arrive at start of Freeway A, ready to take over somehow and advance planet earth. Its so cool because either way Mark Wahlberg is in between so ends up always in the "middle" of any freeway he goes to. So when he travels back to earth, the apes who left way after him got there first! Still confused? Blame the bridge. Hope this cleared it up a bit. Obviously this is not possible (that we know) and may take some thought exercise to wrap your head around because your brain will keep telling you "that's not how traveling works."
After watching this film recently, I came to the opinion that Planet of the Apes (2001) is not only a very underrated film but a very misunderstood film as well. The ending, in my opinion, is one of the most memorable twists of modern films. Thade traveling through a wormhole altering the past that Leo wasn't aware of can often be compared to Back to the Future Part II where Biff gives himself the sports almanac and altering the future (1985) in 1955 while Marty & Doc were still in 2015 and not aware of yet until they travel back to the altered 1985 that would technically be the past of 2015 that slowly altered when Biff returned.
@@KaptainCanuckThe original started out as if it was another planet with a parallel evolution. Hints were provided throughout. The surprise ending tied everything together in an logically coherent way, unlike the remake which took a step too far to be satisfying. It was like the Game of Thrones ending.
@@propheteyebert7063, I did not see or hear any hints in the remake and that makes it even more of a "satisfaction" for me. What would be nice is to now see a book-accurate film made. The main reason the original was done that way is that it was much less expensive. I dd not watch GOT because I find the dialogue in period-type pieces poorly written.
I'm a big fan of Tim Burton and have always found something to love about all his movies. I actually loved his Planet of the Apes (and love how you explained Caeser going back further in Earth's timeline so it fully makes sense!) because of Helena Bonham Carter's performance. This was the movie that absolutely made me love her and track her career. I agree, Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes wasn't perfect, but it wasn't terrible. What's terrible is that the story wasn't continued
I enjoyed this film when it came out but I was also only 19 at the time, I was always confused about that ending but the way you explained how the interplanetary travel thru worm holes worked actually makes so much sense, Thank you
@@ic5312 As they fly over Paris, Orly Airport and the Eiffel Tower look the same. When they land, however, they are greeted by a field officer in a Jeep who is a gorilla.
@@ic5312 basically the humans manage to escape and come back to earth but then the reveal is it's modern times and Earth is controlled by apes. Just like this one
Plus the whole book was a manuscript that a couple found on vacation and were reading and you find out at the very end that they're actually apes as well.
Jonathan Wingerter Rise handled most things better. (BTW I haven't forgotten the cheeky mention of astronauts that got lost on their mission in Rise. Just saying'....)
I'm not convinced this is the first generation of humans to reach the space age. No telling how mamy times we advanced and had to start back to the stone age. As we see now one wrong move and its back to the stone age. And who gonna take all the credit in the new space age.
You helped me with working out the end of this movie. It was the only part, I couldn’t wrap my head around, but that graphic you showed really helped with your explanation on your idea.
the problem with this theory is simple: when the pod got inside the wormhole, the on-board computer started displaying the date and the years went very fast forward. when the lost pod went back into the wormhole, the years went backwards.
I loved this movie, just watched it. I was very confused with the ending so i decided to look it up. I was like: "Wait, he was thousands of years in the past on a different planet, how did that alter earths history?" But it makes sense now that you explained the wormhole. I absolutely love this film, really don't get all the hate it gets.
I saw this movie in the theater, absolutely loved it, and was completely shocked at how much everyone else - (including the people I went to the movie with) hated it! This was great to hear😃
Anyone that understood it liked it. I think too many people didn't pay attention to the what was being said in the video log and missed the time travel wormhole angle. A combination of thinking they were on Earth like the original movie and not understanding that time travel was involved (and forgetting that there was working pods between the ship still having power and the original in the lake) so not seeing how the apes took over earth despite the monument making it pretty explicit. If you followed the plot and didn't just focus on the action scenes it all makes sense and is a fun movie. Reactions like this are why movies like the Matrix get dumbed down.
This movie's ending was probably the first negative film going experience I had in my life (I was only 11 at the time) and honestly your explanation made even less sense than the actual ending
My issue with the remake is that it tries to be smarter than the original with those moments, but then has bizarre dancing scenes and rips off the original, undoing all it's good work..
My main issue with the remake is that mark Wahlberg is about as charming as a rotting fruit basket. But I don't think you can accuse a remake of "ripping off the original;" when that's exactly what the filmmakers were getting paid to do. The most recent Apes trilogy was an exact retelling of 'Battle' and 'Conquest.'
Well, not ripping off so much as nods to the original. Ironically, if they hadn't done that then they would've been accused of ignoring the original. I would also say that, at least, their cameos by original actors made sense, weren't tacked on and didn't distract from the movie unlike most cameos I've seen (the one from the remake of "Fright Night" is a personal dislike, it was so pointless and stupid). It's also interesting how the apes in this movie actually acted like intelligent apes and not just hairy humans. They climbed and jumped and some even used their feet like hands. I know the original movie couldn't do that because of effects limitations but it was a nice touch.
Yeah, the actress who played Nova had a cameo as one of the human slaves during that whole scene with the obviously fake branding iron. I don't think she speaks (as a nod to Nova). Yeah, they have totally pissed away and poor Sigourney Weaver's was stuck in the credits somewhere and was about the most wasteful of them all, but at least she lived through her's. :)
The Fundamental Flaw in the original Apes movies rests in the basic assertion that *Chimpanzees are Pacifists* and less mutually violent and aggressive towards each other than Gorillas - They are *NOT.*
My favorite Planet Of The Apes. George Clooney would be more believable as a Charleton Heston-type of Air Force NASA captain. But MW is not terribly bad, he's believable. Anybody but Nicholas Cage.
I never understood why so many people hated this version. It was amazing and so well written and performed. The costumes and make were simply amazing. I think it was the best Planet of the Apes ever made.
This movies have many allegories and point of view from an outside observer, religious thought provoking, people hate it just because they have no knowledge to contextualise it.
@7:29 The original ending of the Planet of the Apes film was "shocking" becuase you learn the fate of Earth (and Mandkind) through Taylor finding an icon symbol. And in the beginning of the film Tayor is explaing to the other crew member that over 2000 years has passed. What is home (earth) after that much time has passed? And I don't think many people criticized the production value of the remake/reboot/re-imagining. My biggest issue with the movie was that all the primitive humans could speck English. It did make Wahlberg character standout from anyone else (other than he did not want to be a slave). There is also some interesting and dark about the original film that's missing from this one. That Dr. Zaius knew about humans and there destruction they caused. That they have the ability to destroy all life within them. That he would capture and labotomize any and every human that showed intelligence. And to keep man from evolving.
It really is a very good movie. The plot is tight, the special effects/costumes are excellent, and Mark Wahlberg does a great job as the lead. I remember being very excited to see it in the theater when it was originally released, and I really liked it a lot. I'm glad I'm not the only one!
I don't care what anyone says I love this movie I grew up watching it this is the movie that introduced me to the apes franchise and the plot twist ending was amazing
Thane uses Wahlberg's ship. He kills the only two apes who know where the ship is. Then Giamati's character takes all of the technical documents from the chimp's ship after it lands. Thane uses those docs to learn how to operate Wahlberg's ship. Your reverse time travel theory is spot on - though not obvious to most on a first view.
They make it a point that Apes can't swim. How did he get the pod out of the water? They don't have construction equipment. Also it was broken and water damaged.
easy way to know that your ending sucks is when you need a diagram to explain it. Also, easy way to know your whole movie sucks is when you have to "imagine" someone else in the lead for it to be watchable.
A very good movie. The look and the atmosphere are perfect. My favorite cinematography of all Burtons movies. I’m just really surprised they didn’t lay down a few more bucks for a better lead actor tho. If they had, this would have been a small masterpiece. Still, I would have gladly accepted him if we would have gotten a trilogy or even one sequel.
Actually the ending its very similar to the novel. I think you´re right. I also think its not that bad. For me the worst part, were the scenes were the apes beheave like humans.You know, adolescent apes using lether jackets, stuff like that. I know that was supoused to be some kind of satire. But it does´nt work for me.
I liked the movie before the ending, I just felt it out of place, because everything was fixed at that time, I just felt it as something from nowhere to create shock value (... and also, that explanation presented in this video is not explained on the movie, the hero would have arrived also very early in the past, and the villain even earlier, both before the Lincoln monument even existed).
Well, no. Let's explain it with a set date. If you travel through the wormhole on that date, you end up on the other side at that exact date. If you travel through it two weeks after that date, you end up two weeks earlier of that date, or vice versa, if you travel through it two weeks before that date, you end up two weeks after. Basically, the longer time passed before you went in, the earlier you go before that date, so the hero went through, say two weeks after the set date, he ended up two weeks earlier on earth. The apes, however, went in several hundreds of years, causing them to arrive on earth before the Lincoln monument existed. Hope that makes sense.
@@SuddenReal Why would the apes specifically love, revere Thade though? That makes most people who understand the time reverse aspect believe, assume Thade himself went to Earth.
@@suarezguy The Lincoln monument was build in 1914 to 1922, after Lincoln died in 1865. Thade was the one who started the whole campaign to conquer Earth and set everything in motion, so they honored him with a statue decades after he died.
@@SuddenReal So how could Thade, seemingly defeated and disgraced at the end, have again won over the apes of his world so much and/or gotten to Earth and then won over and enhanced those apes and conquered Earth?
@@suarezguy Never underestimate the ego of a despot. The moment the strong leader of the humans was gone, Thade doubled down on hunting the humans, restoring the greatness of the apes and planned his revenge on the human world. Also, what do you mean "enchanced those apes"? Those apes were all invaders.
No, the ending still doesn't make sense. Had apes really moved to Earth's past, it still wouldn't have evolved (in terms of architecture and clothing) into a carbon-copy of Earth's design. See those greek pillars? Well, no greek culture, no greek pillars.
If I gave you a futuristic moving library telling you exactly how things worked where they worked with video evidence to back it up, and you hated my people, culture that had better technology than yours, if you found a way to go into the past knowing I'd arrive later what better way to show you won then coopting the entirety of my history, why would you want to do it differently to increase your chances of failure? I can admit the ending is contrived but it would still be consistent with how things worked in the movie
We don't know exactly how far into the psst the apes went to Earth. Plus, the Greek culture could have still existed, as it may have taken some time for the apes to take over the planet. Furthermore, it is likely that there were humans on that alternate Earth dominated by apes. Who knows? Maybe only part of the planet is taken over by apes, and other parts are still dominated by humans, especially if the apes - even with their advanced technology - still were afraid of going into the water.
I think most people dislike the ending because it’s unhappy. They should keep in mind that the original Planet of the Apes’ ending wasn’t either happier or less happy than this one and that not all movie endings are supposed to be happy. As long they end up making sense, they get a pass.
The original movie had a sense of catharsis at the end. The film's whole message was about whether humanity was worthy of surviving or doomed to always fail. The 2001 ending was just a plain "What the fuck?"
@@batmanvsjoker7725 I did watch the video. I just don't agree with his assertion that the ending is good. I think the movie is fine; not great but okay. I absolutely love the practical effects they had in this movie, and the attention to detail on the costume designs. However, this video has a problem of thinking that somehow explaining the movie will save the experience of watching it. I personally disagree with this thinking since it implies that the only way to appreciate a movie is when it's explained to you in a "literal" approach to film criticism. Now, I will say, I have not watched the movie in a while. I do not remember all of it, so perhaps my experience is unreliable. However, even if I don't remember much of the movie, my disagreement with the video still stands.
I freaking loved this movie! The makeup, the acting, the music, everything! The ending actually scared me, I'm not going to lie, because it does pose a frightening scenario.
I liked it and I especially liked the twist ending. Too bad no one is interested in coming up with a sequel in any medium. I liked the makeup effects also. Overall, the Apes franchise is one of the reasons why I thought to create an anthro gorilla character. Thanks a bunch for this video.
I actually never understood the ending until seeing your explanation. It actually makes the movie 10x better
ikr, like i thought he it was always earth, the ending i just figured history repeats itself and humans lost without the advanced human. the criss crossing ihad no idea about, adds a whole new layer, a sequel would have explained it im sure, but too bad we never got it.
Well it wouldn't make sense because hes from the future and it didnt happen in his history he would know his own history since it happened already and since it didnt happen it never happened
lol... it's the simplest and dumbest scene ever
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The chimp crawling into his cage while injured broke my heart in two.
I laughed
@@MrRop-yp3wt you are what’s wrong with society
Lucky you. Mine broke into.. umm., 20-25 pieces. ☻ Need to find a good glue to stick it together now. 😢
@@frontrowviews maybe you are
@@MrRop-yp3wt Quit trying to sound edgy. It doesn't suit you.
I always assumed the ending meant that the apes were doomed to repeat the mistakes of man no matter what, but your take does clean up a few loose ends.
I wish as karma the evil chimp general had ended up in the normal planet of humans.
His explanation is not the best if you think about it... if the apes changed history... how in the f can the new "ape" history copy humans history so perfectly, down to an ape Abraham Lincoln... his explanation makes no sense, even the director and writers have said the ending was just made up to beat the originals ending.
@@smit1000 except the movie’s end is the books ending and the explanation does make sense. The problem isn’t time travel but like you said copying human history with a ape twist to it. Here’s the thing though, everything we have is nothing more than a modified and improved version of what we already had in the past and depending on what year the apes landed they can just take over and pick up where we left off. Abraham Lincoln wasn’t the first president so if they landed a few years before or during his reign then they could take over and that’s how you get Apebraham Lincoln. Before that it was the era of Kings and Queens before the world (or atleast the us) became a democracy so same thing.
This is not how the book ended. Stop spewing bs. The movie ending made no sense at all.
@@dennissanfilippo8836 actually it is, the original planet of the apes movie is the one that changed the ending the remake stuck to the book. There are 2 separate planets and the protagonist was never on earth the whole time and the apes did take over our earth. HOWEVER the remake didn’t finish the books ending and ended the movie too soon because the protagonist was never arrested by the apes.
I never understood why people hated this movie or didn't like it. The movie is supposed to be crazy and weird, the costumes and story are different from any other movie and very creative and cool. Reminds me Dark Crystal, very dark and adventurous. It's a weird concept so why can't it be a *WEIRD MOVIE??!!* I liked it when I first saw it.
Its offensively racistly distasteful
It's because certain smart ass channels like Everything Wrong With have made it cool to turn around and ridicule things that most people thought were cool. It's mainly content for zoomers who weren't there.
It is a movie that surprises all the time, surely those who did not like it were those who were fans of the previous ones, but this is hevha in another way, I like it and wow what an incredible ending, how many have gone more than one go to the movies to understand that unexpected ending.
@@mr_rogersM320 this movie was back in 2001, im pretty sure a lot of people hated it and this was WAY years ago before youtube existed. Hence why it didnt get a sequel. Either ways, the trilogy reboot/prequels is very awesome tho.
@@ianfudo5040 Why are you telling me when this movie came out? I saw it in theatres. Didn't hear anyone griping until blogs and youtube came out, which made it cool to make fun of literally everything for clout.
OMG!!! Finally someone gave a proper explanation of the ending. I always loved the movie but never fully understood the end. You just made my day!
I one hundred percent agree this a great movie that deserves to be better rated
Except he never said it was a great movie. Just that it doesn't deserve "all of your hate".
Esteban Maldonado nope
I personally loved the movie. It's not perfect or great, but I really enjoyed it and the ending was the bomb!
This movie is fine. I agree that the hate is a bit overdone. Go back and watch the originals, they really aren’t that great.
@@dallascowboyshighlights9632 They were groundbreaking for their time, especially the first two.
I really liked Tim Burton’s Planet of the Apes! That intro score was hair raising, the acting was on point, and the ape armor was so detailed
So, you liked the music and some of the costumes. Story, acting, and directing all sucked, but those are trivial things compared to that monkey armor.
@@generalyellor8188 the plot wasn’t that bad and the acting was spot on. I know you only hate it because “iT iS nOtHiNg LiKe ThE oRiGiNaL” and maybe it shouldn’t have been
@@generalyellor8188 I thought the story and acting was great
And the protagonist is an idiot.
@@frontrowviews the acting and script wasn't worthy of YTV's worst.
Finally someone thinking like me. I liked this film a lot and never understood why it is so hated. It was my first DVD and even the first movie I bought, and that even without knowing the film beforehand! The makeup, the characters, the costumes, the twist, the tributes to the old films, it was really good!
harrylongbaugh1 especially the make-up instead of cgi! I love practical effects. it bothers me less, when there is a little stiffness in the faces because of the mask, than aged cgi
Zappel Practical effects will always be timeless, but you'd have to be arrogant not to admit that the apes in War for the Planet of the Apes looked indistinguishable from life.
Only to a 13 year old! That's whose target audience that film was made for
harrylongbaugh1 I would never go that far. And all the movies are about how humans are bad, and how we have to prove worthy of survival. Especially the original.
Zappel What did you think of the visual effects in 'War'?
Everyone remembers the twist ending of the 1968 original along with Cesar saying No. What a lot of fans of The Planet of the Apes franchise is the jaw dropping moment in the 2001 film "General Thade" outstretching his arm and pointing the gun at Leo. Granted it lacks the impact of the "Cesar No" moment but just think of a moment. Thade just by sniffing and studying the gun for a single moment figures out how to hold it and use it...oh and the look of total shock and horror on Leo's face is priceless
I have my own opinion about this movie. When I watched it as a child, it amazed me. I have always hoped for a sequel to be made. It is unfortunate that Tim and the production team did not receive the recognition they deserved. The movie was made with great attention to detail and passion. It would be great if they could connect the existing storyline with the newer films and the 2001 Apes movie. On a different note, the scene where Mark Wahlberg's character returns to space through the rift always gives me chills. The music perfectly complements the moment. I find it haunting and satisfying. The ending is one of the best and leaves you wanting more.
The ending should've at least had a sequel.
Kendyl Bigelow deffo i would love to see whats happened that Earth
Maybe someone will do a fan film sequel to it someday, but i doubt seriously we'll ever see a legit canon sequel to it though.
It would have, if the reviews were better. There was more said and done in this film that went over many folks heads...Just like today. Many folks don't pay attention to dialogue for key thoughts the writers put in.
@@pawfan Exactly. I think the main problem is that too many people kept comparing it to the original with Charleton Heston, which was a bit more straightforward with it's narrative for people to understand. Plus, some of the parallels between this one and original didn't help either honestly.
@@thewolfofwallstreet627 Tim did say it was a 'Re-Thinking' of this genre. His thoughts were more for an audience that is neutral thinking.
"What you hold in your hand is the proof of their power. Their power of invention! Their power of technology! Against this, our strength means nothing! This has the power of a thousand spears! I warn you their ingenuity goes hand in hand with their cruelty. No creature is as devious, as violent."
- Zaius
He's not exactly wrong.
Lol I'm a misnanthrope and I think what you said here is cringe
Apes are angels then.
The same would happen to any species that evolved like humans with civilizations, writing, science and technology. Once an animal becomes intelligent to create these things, they first develop an ego or a sense of self. Once that happens, an animal or creature has a sense of self, they then recognize that they have possessions. Having possessions makes a 'self' want more. Then a system of specialties is created so that one self/animal does one thing that individuals need and others do other things that are needed. Then they create a system of bartering and exchanging their work, service, utensils for someone else's, then an economy develops and before you know it there are Walmarts popping up all over the place (or maybe Wahlbergs). And then one self/animal has more than others and they employ many people and working just to pay rent while one percent of them run the place and create problems that everyone else is jealous of. All that comes with intelligence. Thinking that there are going to be societies somewhere that have the foresight to avoid competition and wars is kind of a childish idea of societies and the nature of individuals and the species as a whole, like human nature. We all hate war, but it's human nature to want more of something and compete for dominance to attain it. War was and is inevitable. It's human nature and it would be the nature of any species that developed intelligence.
Interesting points. I Do think it is possible that eventually a civilization could become so advanced that war and physical conflict would become obsolete.
@@ddddd9665 Since, imo, war and crime became a thing due to intelligence, which results in ego (sense of me and mine), which are human nature, it would take evolving into another species, to whom a sense of self and possession don't have the same expression. Maybe that is something like Odo's species in Deep Space 9, that exists as a liquid like thing that is part of ocean of similar beings with no boundaries of self.
I remember hearing that Burton filmed 5 different endings for this film - one being the original film’s ending, and no one knew which he would use. To my knowledge, those endings have never been released, but I’d love to see them.
Perfect for a possible anniversary edition perhaps?
That's pretty amazing
That's a common strategy to avoid spoiler leaks. You film ALL the endings - that way if you get leaked, no one knows what the real ending is.
What were the 5 endings?
@@Wxtst.3 The five endings were called Alpha, Beta, Charlie, Delta, and Echo.
The ending is actually almost the same as the ending in the original book. The astronaut gets back to Earth and finds out apes rule there also. Just uses DC instead of Paris.
Paris was used because the writer was french
@@HTMN161 I know. But it was still almost exactly how the book ended. Just without him leaving again, and future chimps in a solar sail spaceship finding his note in space.
wasn't it the future earth in the book where the astronauts land and apes rule?
@@cumexolaf3276 yes. Who are highly advanced.
@@HTMN161 No shit laser brain...
Thank you. This movie is so underrated, and undeservedly so. It was a marvel and still is today. The craft and dedication in the ape society and cosplay alone are quite possibly unmatched.
The film could've taken the book's ending even further with its prologue and epilogue; two ape astronauts find the Mark Wahlberg character's account of the film's story and dismiss it as fiction because, to them, human intelligence doesn't exist.
Maybe the Rise films will do that
William Crowe that would be good.
“No remake of a classic will ever be as well received as the original.” So we just gonna dish on John Carpenter’s “The Thing” huh?
quote should be continued to say "as long as the original isn't too old."
@@huskysilverdog The Thing was a remake, but it didn't remake a classic. The same can be said with a lot of good remakes.
The Thing was far removed from the original, same with others like Thin Red Line...Also, for your information, The Thing was critically bashed when it first came out, Ebert is on record as saying it's nothing but shock value crap. But that's just Carpenter being ahead of his time.
Or The Fly
scarface
general Thade single handedly made this entire movie. He was so deep in nature and character and I fully understand his motives and fears. I think Tim Roth was astounding in the film. It was way better than what Mark Whalberg could lead in my opinion. The ending was so fitting and I felt made it even more clear that there wasnt a right and wrong or good Vs evil in the film. Different perspectives with one driven by fear and the other driven by empathy.
Mark whalburg love triangles with a monkey and we get a monkey sex scene within the first 30mins of the film, trust me it is not this deep 😂
You bring up so many points I've believed for years. Tim Roth did such a great job. He was terrifying! The intensity of his eyes and voice were scary.
The ending deserves a sequel, what happened after he got arrested?
Yeah i agree with you i just finished watching it today and its the first planet of the apes that i watched
I love this movie. yep, I said it. It was my first dvd.
Mine was Tombstone.
My first was lake placid
Spaceballs was my first DVD.
Haha mine aswell!
That's what I said I had it on vhs
I finally get a decent explaining for this movie's ending. Great job!
When I work out Donnie Darko I'll let you know.
@@ryanarey There is nothing to work out. If you are confused, try the Director's Cut.
So the idea that drives the plot of this film pretty much went over all the audiences and critics heads
the ideas in the movie weren't that great. Definitely not enough to turn a mediocre movie such as this into a cult classic
@@matthewkyriakides5237 if its not a cult classic why is it talked about a decade later & bash by you two decades later ?...lol
@@Perkeletricksterservantofrher uh yeah just because a movie gets discussed doesn't make it a cult classic lol. This movie literally never gets discussed in the planet of the apes fandom outside of people calling it a failure. Also bashing a movie also doesn't make it a cult classic. I will bash the movie "earth girls are easy" till the day I die and I can assure you that movie is not a cult classic
The whole last in first out (and reversed) is pretty understandable and yet still really weird and hard to believe, I think even if you have seen a lot of other sci fi. That apes (probably Thade) could repair the other capsule and would want to and did take over Earth is yet weirder and less believable.
It’s not too late for a sequel.
Tim Burton just did beetle juice 2 so who knows , if enough fans say something
This movie was extremely underrated. Indeed, Charleston Heston's final role, to me was his best ever!
I actually liked it cuz it felt like an old-school sci-fi novel.
Ok, the whole "wormhole alternate timeline" thing confused the hell out of me.
right...?
Aw man, that's what makes this one so good. You gotta watch it again and understand what's going on.
I'll try to explain: You have two parallel freeways (A and B) connected by a bridge. If you wanted to get to freeway B from freeway A you just take the bridge. Only thing is if you are near the end of freeway A and cross the bridge you arrive at the beginning of freeway B!
This works for both freeways. (If you are at end of freeway B and cross bridge you arrive at start of Freeway A)
So to put into context: The chimp on Freeway A crosses bridge first and arrives at the end of Freeway B. The spaceship on Freeway A crossed bridge last so ends up at the beginning of Freeway B!
What is said in the video is that the apes (on Freeway B) finally found out how to cross the bridge waaaay later, so they arrive at start of Freeway A, ready to take over somehow and advance planet earth.
Its so cool because either way Mark Wahlberg is in between so ends up always in the "middle" of any freeway he goes to. So when he travels back to earth, the apes who left way after him got there first!
Still confused? Blame the bridge.
Hope this cleared it up a bit. Obviously this is not possible (that we know) and may take some thought exercise to wrap your head around because your brain will keep telling you "that's not how traveling works."
all that wormhole shit wasn't set up in the movie's storyline, the movie LOOKED awesome but it sucked....sucked hard
@@SteezLoki he's not gonna understand that, the movie was so simple .maybe he should watch a few star trek episodes or back to the future.
After watching this film recently, I came to the opinion that Planet of the Apes (2001) is not only a very underrated film but a very misunderstood film as well. The ending, in my opinion, is one of the most memorable twists of modern films. Thade traveling through a wormhole altering the past that Leo wasn't aware of can often be compared to Back to the Future Part II where Biff gives himself the sports almanac and altering the future (1985) in 1955 while Marty & Doc were still in 2015 and not aware of yet until they travel back to the altered 1985 that would technically be the past of 2015 that slowly altered when Biff returned.
The ending was arbitrary and contrived Nothing in the movie properly foreshadowed that outcome, so it was not a clever twist.
@@KaptainCanuckThe original started out as if it was another planet with a parallel evolution. Hints were provided throughout. The surprise ending tied everything together in an logically coherent way, unlike the remake which took a step too far to be satisfying. It was like the Game of Thrones ending.
@@propheteyebert7063, I did not see or hear any hints in the remake and that makes it even more of a "satisfaction" for me. What would be nice is to now see a book-accurate film made. The main reason the original was done that way is that it was much less expensive. I dd not watch GOT because I find the dialogue in period-type pieces poorly written.
@@KaptainCanuck GOT was just poorly written to start with, the series actually improved it. Odd but there it is.
I'm a big fan of Tim Burton and have always found something to love about all his movies. I actually loved his Planet of the Apes (and love how you explained Caeser going back further in Earth's timeline so it fully makes sense!) because of Helena Bonham Carter's performance. This was the movie that absolutely made me love her and track her career. I agree, Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes wasn't perfect, but it wasn't terrible. What's terrible is that the story wasn't continued
I enjoyed this film when it came out but I was also only 19 at the time, I was always confused about that ending but the way you explained how the interplanetary travel thru worm holes worked actually makes so much sense, Thank you
The ending is pretty close to the original book ending
@@ic5312 As they fly over Paris, Orly Airport and the Eiffel Tower look the same. When they land, however, they are greeted by a field officer in a Jeep who is a gorilla.
@@ic5312 basically the humans manage to escape and come back to earth but then the reveal is it's modern times and Earth is controlled by apes. Just like this one
Plus the whole book was a manuscript that a couple found on vacation and were reading and you find out at the very end that they're actually apes as well.
The book is really good btw, shame it's a bit forgotten now
@@MichaelDavis-bj2bs Which was all a child's dream and when he wakes up he is a chimp.
TAKE YOUR HANDS OF ME YOU DAMN DIRTY HUMAN!
just stop movie just stop!
oh yeah
Rise handled this better.
Dodge: Get your stinkin paw off me you damn dirty ape.
Caesar: (towers over him) NOOOOOOOOOO
Jonathan Wingerter I liked that reference. It was a great nod to the original.
Julian Shipp But what do you think of Charlton weston's "DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL!"?
Jonathan Wingerter Rise handled most things better. (BTW I haven't forgotten the cheeky mention of astronauts that got lost on their mission in Rise. Just saying'....)
6:42 - BLEW MY MIND AND MADE ME LOVE THE MOVIE!!
Tim Burton’s Sleepy Hollow falls into his “Lazy Period”?????
Hell no!!!!
Agree also Sweeney Todd is a Masterpiece 🙏
Alice 2 was lazy not the first one ***
General can not escape the spaceship since it is only able to work with finger prints of humans
yeah well that's just like.....your opinion man
hey prison mike, hows prison life?
You pull any of your crazy shit, pulling a piece on the lanes, and I'm gonna take it from you.
MargotRobbieIsBae〈3 that escalated quickly
Probably one of the best comments ever
Dude, Are you fucking this up?!
“It subverts the audience’s expectations.” Where have I heard that before?
In a lot of other good movies because that's a totally valid way of writing a story.
This doesn't neccesarly mean that it is bad writing
@@eldhand did I say it necessarily meant bad writing? The joke clearly went over your head . . .
@@dohnjoe9211 you didn't say that, but it really felt that you implied that all subverting of the expectations are bad since star wars 8 was shit
@@eldhand are you implying that I think Episode VIII was shit? For all you know, it might be my favorite Star Wars.
5000 thousand years later we have screen crush lmfao
The pinnacle of human culture.
Yeah it was a good one XD
I'm not convinced this is the first generation of humans to reach the space age. No telling how mamy times we advanced and had to start back to the stone age. As we see now one wrong move and its back to the stone age. And who gonna take all the credit in the new space age.
You helped me with working out the end of this movie. It was the only part, I couldn’t wrap my head around, but that graphic you showed really helped with your explanation on your idea.
the problem with this theory is simple: when the pod got inside the wormhole, the on-board computer started displaying the date and the years went very fast forward. when the lost pod went back into the wormhole, the years went backwards.
Agreed. And the historical radio transmissions received before he initially entered the wormhole.
I loved this movie, just watched it. I was very confused with the ending so i decided to look it up. I was like: "Wait, he was thousands of years in the past on a different planet, how did that alter earths history?" But it makes sense now that you explained the wormhole. I absolutely love this film, really don't get all the hate it gets.
I saw this movie in the theater, absolutely loved it, and was completely shocked at how much everyone else - (including the people I went to the movie with) hated it! This was great to hear😃
Anyone that understood it liked it. I think too many people didn't pay attention to the what was being said in the video log and missed the time travel wormhole angle. A combination of thinking they were on Earth like the original movie and not understanding that time travel was involved (and forgetting that there was working pods between the ship still having power and the original in the lake) so not seeing how the apes took over earth despite the monument making it pretty explicit. If you followed the plot and didn't just focus on the action scenes it all makes sense and is a fun movie.
Reactions like this are why movies like the Matrix get dumbed down.
Take THAT, Nostalgia Critic!
People didnt get the ending because it was ahead of the multiverse fad
Facts I liked this planet of the apes more than the new ones , that ending went right over peoples heads. And that was when mark cared about acting
Was always waiting for the part 2 that was never made
This movie's ending was probably the first negative film going experience I had in my life (I was only 11 at the time) and honestly your explanation made even less sense than the actual ending
LOL!!!
dude its ok, you are a smoothbrain.
You must be the token comment that disliked the 2001 remake. I 100% agree with you, It's idiotic.
I thought I was the only person on the planet who actually liked it. I thought the ending was great!
My issue with the remake is that it tries to be smarter than the original with those moments, but then has bizarre dancing scenes and rips off the original, undoing all it's good work..
My main issue with the remake is that mark Wahlberg is about as charming as a rotting fruit basket. But I don't think you can accuse a remake of "ripping off the original;" when that's exactly what the filmmakers were getting paid to do. The most recent Apes trilogy was an exact retelling of 'Battle' and 'Conquest.'
Well, not ripping off so much as nods to the original. Ironically, if they hadn't done that then they would've been accused of ignoring the original. I would also say that, at least, their cameos by original actors made sense, weren't tacked on and didn't distract from the movie unlike most cameos I've seen (the one from the remake of "Fright Night" is a personal dislike, it was so pointless and stupid).
It's also interesting how the apes in this movie actually acted like intelligent apes and not just hairy humans. They climbed and jumped and some even used their feet like hands. I know the original movie couldn't do that because of effects limitations but it was a nice touch.
Was there a previous actor cameo apart from Charlton Heston? The new Ghostbusters gave a master class in how not to do an original cast member cameo.
Yeah, the actress who played Nova had a cameo as one of the human slaves during that whole scene with the obviously fake branding iron. I don't think she speaks (as a nod to Nova).
Yeah, they have totally pissed away and poor Sigourney Weaver's was stuck in the credits somewhere and was about the most wasteful of them all, but at least she lived through her's. :)
Had no idea Sigourney Weaver had a cut cameo. The more you know.
You're actually pretty spot on with the ending. There was another pod on the ship that Thane figures out how to fly and goes through the wormhole.
Thanks for the wormhole diagram, explaining the ending - you explained what I had always been wondering about !
Never understood the hate for this film. I saw the originals and loved them. Loved this too.
Never understood that the humans stopped existing on earth. I just thought it was an alternate dimension at the end.
It was a different planet in a different demension
Maybe the remaining human (which probably almost extinct) were placed in zoo or cages like we do now
Same here
I never thought the movie was bad. Tim Burton is a genius. People just didn't get the movie.
It's my favorite. Awesome look and great cast.
Somehow Thade is responsible in the ending but how did he do it?
This Explanation is even WEIRDER than the Ending itself ! I love it !! 😀
I loved the movie when I saw it, but I was a kid. I haven't watched it as an adult. But I remember being very entertained.
Next time you clean the house leave it on in the background. You won't regret it.
I LOVED TIM BURTON'S VERSION OF PLANET OF THE APES
Thank you for explaining the ending. That does make it a lot smarter. What a shame we didn't get a sequel.
Never understood how Burton didn’t make this into a series. It was my favorite of all the Apes films
The Fundamental Flaw in the original Apes movies rests in the basic assertion that *Chimpanzees are Pacifists* and less mutually violent and aggressive towards each other than Gorillas - They are *NOT.*
My favorite Planet Of The Apes. George Clooney would be more believable as a Charleton Heston-type of Air Force NASA captain. But MW is not terribly bad, he's believable. Anybody but Nicholas Cage.
"The apes! Not the apes! Ahhhhh! They're in my eyes! They're in my eyes!"
Clooney is absolute garbage of an actor and human being.
How about Christopher Walken or WillemDafoe? XD
5:57 nice dad joke. No literally my dad made that joke the first time we watched this.
Who’s dad didn’t make that joke
Are you sure you explaind the time travel at the end correctly ?
Explain better smartass!
The prosthetics for this movie are still incredible even by today’s standard
Without a sequel people were left with the question how did Thade change the past.
I never understood why so many people hated this version. It was amazing and so well written and performed. The costumes and make were simply amazing. I think it was the best Planet of the Apes ever made.
Who is out here saying that this is the “WORST” Planet of the Apes movie??? 🤔 This movie is AMAZING!
APES.TOGETHER.STRONG
HUMANS.ALONE.WEAK
Koba: Caesar weak.
Caesar: Koba weaker.
Odysseus vs ajax for achilles armour, simplified to monumentally insipid
Finally an explanation for a movie no one cares for and it still makes no sense, and it's pointless.
This movies have many allegories and point of view from an outside observer, religious thought provoking, people hate it just because they have no knowledge to contextualise it.
I Never got that ending before you just explained it. Thank you!!
@7:29 The original ending of the Planet of the Apes film was "shocking" becuase you learn the fate of Earth (and Mandkind) through Taylor finding an icon symbol.
And in the beginning of the film Tayor is explaing to the other crew member that over 2000 years has passed. What is home (earth) after that much time has passed?
And I don't think many people criticized the production value of the remake/reboot/re-imagining.
My biggest issue with the movie was that all the primitive humans could speck English. It did make Wahlberg character standout from anyone else (other than he did not want to be a slave).
There is also some interesting and dark about the original film that's missing from this one. That Dr. Zaius knew about humans and there destruction they caused. That they have the ability to destroy all life within them. That he would capture and labotomize any and every human that showed intelligence. And to keep man from evolving.
It really is a very good movie. The plot is tight, the special effects/costumes are excellent, and Mark Wahlberg does a great job as the lead. I remember being very excited to see it in the theater when it was originally released, and I really liked it a lot. I'm glad I'm not the only one!
was always waiting on the sequel to this and never got one....
I can quote this entire movie. Name a line and I will comment the next line.
lmao.
'i'm having a bad hair day' ...
I agree , I think the 2001 remake was pretty, good.
In spite of Matk Wahlberg.
I don't care what anyone says I love this movie I grew up watching it this is the movie that introduced me to the apes franchise and the plot twist ending was amazing
I was worried this was going to be one of those "the prequels weren't that bad" vids. This actually made some good points
They weren't that bad. Except for all the things that were.
The ending comes directly from the book.
Thane uses Wahlberg's ship. He kills the only two apes who know where the ship is. Then Giamati's character takes all of the technical documents from the chimp's ship after it lands. Thane uses those docs to learn how to operate Wahlberg's ship. Your reverse time travel theory is spot on - though not obvious to most on a first view.
They make it a point that Apes can't swim. How did he get the pod out of the water? They don't have construction equipment. Also it was broken and water damaged.
This was actually my favorite one after the original one
easy way to know that your ending sucks is when you need a diagram to explain it. Also, easy way to know your whole movie sucks is when you have to "imagine" someone else in the lead for it to be watchable.
A very good movie. The look and the atmosphere are perfect. My favorite cinematography of all Burtons movies. I’m just really surprised they didn’t lay down a few more bucks for a better lead actor tho. If they had, this would have been a small masterpiece. Still, I would have gladly accepted him if we would have gotten a trilogy or even one sequel.
Nah this movie makes no sense just because others hate it and you say nah doesn’t mean you’re right
Space-Time: That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. It was a cool ending, but the explanation is...no...it just isn't, ok? Wow.
I never got why this film garnered so much hate. Haters will always hate. That's the only thing they seem to do!
It was OK and yet really bad compared to the original especially the star. The basic story was so similar that you have to compare.
I actually really liked this movie XD
2001 version was the best adaptation of POTA movies, even recent ones, I wish we got the sequels
This movie was cool as a kid the only thing I hate is that we never got a follow up to the ending
I actually love this take on the Planet of the Apes saga....your explanation of the ending makes sense.
Actually the ending its very similar to the novel. I think you´re right. I also think its not that bad. For me the worst part, were the scenes were the apes beheave like humans.You know, adolescent apes using lether jackets, stuff like that. I know that was supoused to be some kind of satire. But it does´nt work for me.
I liked the movie before the ending, I just felt it out of place, because everything was fixed at that time, I just felt it as something from nowhere to create shock value (... and also, that explanation presented in this video is not explained on the movie, the hero would have arrived also very early in the past, and the villain even earlier, both before the Lincoln monument even existed).
Well, no. Let's explain it with a set date. If you travel through the wormhole on that date, you end up on the other side at that exact date. If you travel through it two weeks after that date, you end up two weeks earlier of that date, or vice versa, if you travel through it two weeks before that date, you end up two weeks after. Basically, the longer time passed before you went in, the earlier you go before that date, so the hero went through, say two weeks after the set date, he ended up two weeks earlier on earth. The apes, however, went in several hundreds of years, causing them to arrive on earth before the Lincoln monument existed. Hope that makes sense.
@@SuddenReal Why would the apes specifically love, revere Thade though? That makes most people who understand the time reverse aspect believe, assume Thade himself went to Earth.
@@suarezguy The Lincoln monument was build in 1914 to 1922, after Lincoln died in 1865. Thade was the one who started the whole campaign to conquer Earth and set everything in motion, so they honored him with a statue decades after he died.
@@SuddenReal So how could Thade, seemingly defeated and disgraced at the end, have again won over the apes of his world so much and/or gotten to Earth and then won over and enhanced those apes and conquered Earth?
@@suarezguy Never underestimate the ego of a despot. The moment the strong leader of the humans was gone, Thade doubled down on hunting the humans, restoring the greatness of the apes and planned his revenge on the human world. Also, what do you mean "enchanced those apes"? Those apes were all invaders.
No, the ending still doesn't make sense. Had apes really moved to Earth's past, it still wouldn't have evolved (in terms of architecture and clothing) into a carbon-copy of Earth's design. See those greek pillars? Well, no greek culture, no greek pillars.
If I gave you a futuristic moving library telling you exactly how things worked where they worked with video evidence to back it up, and you hated my people, culture that had better technology than yours, if you found a way to go into the past knowing I'd arrive later what better way to show you won then coopting the entirety of my history, why would you want to do it differently to increase your chances of failure?
I can admit the ending is contrived but it would still be consistent with how things worked in the movie
We don't know exactly how far into the psst the apes went to Earth. Plus, the Greek culture could have still existed, as it may have taken some time for the apes to take over the planet. Furthermore, it is likely that there were humans on that alternate Earth dominated by apes. Who knows? Maybe only part of the planet is taken over by apes, and other parts are still dominated by humans, especially if the apes - even with their advanced technology - still were afraid of going into the water.
I think most people dislike the ending because it’s unhappy. They should keep in mind that the original Planet of the Apes’ ending wasn’t either happier or less happy than this one and that not all movie endings are supposed to be happy. As long they end up making sense, they get a pass.
The original movie had a sense of catharsis at the end. The film's whole message was about whether humanity was worthy of surviving or doomed to always fail.
The 2001 ending was just a plain "What the fuck?"
@@eliasalbarracin5549 Have you even watched the video?
@@batmanvsjoker7725 I did watch the video. I just don't agree with his assertion that the ending is good. I think the movie is fine; not great but okay. I absolutely love the practical effects they had in this movie, and the attention to detail on the costume designs.
However, this video has a problem of thinking that somehow explaining the movie will save the experience of watching it. I personally disagree with this thinking since it implies that the only way to appreciate a movie is when it's explained to you in a "literal" approach to film criticism.
Now, I will say, I have not watched the movie in a while. I do not remember all of it, so perhaps my experience is unreliable. However, even if I don't remember much of the movie, my disagreement with the video still stands.
I never understood why people hated the film
I freaking loved this movie! The makeup, the acting, the music, everything! The ending actually scared me, I'm not going to lie, because it does pose a frightening scenario.
I liked it and I especially liked the twist ending. Too bad no one is interested in coming up with a sequel in any medium. I liked the makeup effects also.
Overall, the Apes franchise is one of the reasons why I thought to create an anthro gorilla character.
Thanks a bunch for this video.
2:05 "armor inspired by ancient egipcian warrior's" has no similarities besides helmet and bracelets(by a stretch)
Criminally underrated movie
"Her art make is ... uh 😳 ... confusing."