This is now my “amp.” Decades of carrying around tube amps from Fender, Marshall, Laney and Vox, and I’m super happy with the Lion - and so is my back! Just an incredible bit of kit.
James Santiago should get the Nobel Peace Prize for his incredible knowledge of all this tone history and coming out with products like this! Cheers to you James and UA team!!
What? That prize is awarded to those who have "done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses." Your use of the example is illogical.
He should also get the Darwin award for most useless connectivity regarding editing UAFX pedals ! It's the absolutely worst solution I have ever seen in my entire life ! Why they decide to go with Bluetooth and Mobile instead of a standard USB connection is a mystery ! On a positive note he must have the best ears in the business to create the Lion 68 ! I simply think sound wise the Lion 68 is the closest to the real deal ! Too bad that the editor is Bluetooth and SUCK !
@@tobbebergman7583 You can do USB, and use UA Connect. That's what I do. I have 4(?) UAFX pedals. (Edit: for updates; not for presets, so yeah... agreed. Lack of a "direct connect" editing option is an oversight.)
the best video display of this pedal. Because there's lots of top notch guitarists that make it sound so different, and great, to suit their style/feel. Sounds massive
It might be but after reading all the problems with Bluetooth, users are having I am NOT ordering anything from Universal Audio ! Plus the fact that it is vertically impossible to reach out to Universal Audio to get answers for a product !
Bluetooth and App sucks so much. That was the most horrible decision for these pedals. And don't get me start with the OX Stomp, the retarded app destroyed the product.
@@UniversalAudio First I'd like to say that I am a very proud owner of a Universal Audio sound card and has always thought Universal Audio to be my first choice when it comes to audio equipment ! I have been searching a long time for a product that can deliver authentic Marshall Plexi sounds to use in my home studio. That's why I was thrilled when I found out that UA had developed the Lion 68 and even more thrilled after hearing a dozen TH-cam reviews. I was just about to put an order when I read about the first Bluetooth issues and the fact that there is no ordinary PC editor for the Lion 68. This means that I have no possibility to edit any of the UAFX pedals as I am very interested in several of them. My Android tablet is simply too old ! I am old school and pretty much hate Smartphones and tablets ! Why are there no ordinary PC editor ?
This was great to watch! It reminded me of one of Rick Beato's great sessions when he is interviewing multiple players and letting each of them play during the session. Super informative and super fun!
I'm getting mine in a few days and I can't wait. finally I can gig and jam without having to carry a heavy amp. yesterday we where at the studio and I had to carry it 4 floors up :)) a lot of sims let me down but this seems really solid
Please make more collective videos like this, with players interacting with each other and sharing experiences, instead of just wanking by themselves. Btw the product sounds great.
Sounds great! I Wondering if the team could produce a Dual Rectifier "in a box" version soon. The late 90's/early 2000 metal tone is such a staple for many guitarists of my generation! I would buy in a heartbeat. Great video btw!
Love my Lion but to be perfect, it should have the option to switch to the stock 5000pF bright cap and not only between the modded 100pf and no cap... I miss that agressiveness that the stock bright cap gives to the amp
I have a question about this pedal. I know its now the amp, but where are you placing things like reverb and delay pedals on it? Does it have an effects loop for that?
12:12 with the EV got very 70’s Nugent. In general though, all the sounds have too soft an edge to them. I tried a 65 dream (as in bought) and it just didn’t sound like I had mic’d a decent Deluxe Reverb. It lacked a little in almost every aspect. Punch, dynamics, sweetness. I tried to stick with it for a while to see if I could find my way in dialing it and it just never came together. Tried it in amp, loop returns and direct.
How do you set the interface’s gain with this pedal? Is there a number on the meter you are shooting for, or 0 gain like the Neural DSP plugins, or just enough to not clip, etc…?
Can someone please answer this question: I see other companies like this coming out with single amp pedals. Why choose these instead of something like tonex, helix, etc. especially as much as they cost? I am fully willing to consider it, but when I could have an infinite number of amps vs. Just one.
Our goal is to absolutely positively nail, the perfect version of one amp per pedal. Many players have very specific amps that they want to use. We do understand where you’re coming from, for example, a guitarist in a cover band needs to cover a lot of ground. But we see lots of users using UAFX pedals together to accomplish this as well.
Simplicity is the main reason. There’s a lot of players who don’t want a million amps in a single pedal. All they want is something that they can plug into, just like the the real amp, and set their eq and volume and go. It’s especially easy for guys that come from having a lot of tube Amps, a guitar, and a pedalboard. So this way, they can replace their marshal full stack with this pedal instead, either for recording or gigs where they don’t want to bring a full rig. One thing is for sure, sometimes simplicity and limiting your options can make creating music way easier. There’s something to be said for just being able to plug in your guitar, open your DAW of choice, and go. All your pedals and settings are ready to go, and you don’t have to scroll thru a hundred amps you don’t want to use. Also, the UAD stuff is just really good quality. You are kind of paying for that quality and consistency. Where as if you by something like a helix,you may have to play around a ton to get a good Marshall sound that sounds anywhere as close to this pedal. But like I said originally, simplicity is really the reason.
@@UniversalAudio Guitars in any cover band should be going for a good tone overall and then nailing the song, not trying to have a patch per song with completely different effects. You'll never be 20 guitar players, you will always just be you.
@@anotheryoutubedExactly! I'm playing in a hobby level band, just for fun in a rehearsal space. Only using a xotic sl drive and reverb, it force me to use the volume control alot.
Using a real guitar amp is like unlocking the soul of your instrument. There's a certain magic in the way a true amp responds to your playing, capturing every nuance of your touch and transforming it into a rich, organic sound. Unlike digital emulations, which can feel sterile or lifeless, a real amp breathes and interacts with you, creating a dynamic relationship between the player and the music. The warmth of the tubes, the bite of the overdrive, and the sheer presence that fills a room cannot be replicated. It’s not just about hearing the music; it’s about feeling it resonate through your bones, vibrating with the raw energy and authenticity that only a real amp can deliver. Whether you're chasing the perfect tone or simply want to experience the pure, unfiltered voice of your guitar, nothing compares to the power and presence of a real amp.
When will we see an upgrade or addition of a 5k or 5000pf bright cap.. the 100pf that the pedal was modeled with just doesn't cut it for the cutting edge you get using the stock 5000pf bright cap... the Randy Rhoads, EVH or YJM tone can only be achieved with a 5000pf cap.. 100pf is cool but still love the Marshall Super Lead.. glass bottles on the finger tips sounds... bright bass notes not the flabbiness of a 100pf bright cap..
Yes, I understand I can have a Reverb pedal after. But why not have it it is already possible? I just gigged with it and the sound guys tried to use the room emulation but after few tries they just told me to shut it off because it sounded bad
The sound guys had no reverb unit to play with on their mixing desk? No outboard gear at all? Sorry, these can't be called "sound guys". What you need is a modeller with built in multiple effects.
Yes, there is no reverb. For early VH, use the “Brown” presets or “Mean Green Street”. “Brown Devil” = Running with the Devil (VH 1) and “Mean Green Street” = Mean Street (Fair Warning). I think some of the presets even have a slight reverb included, but you might use an additional plate for the long decay times…
Please also do some videos on violin and saxophone. UA is too much about drums, guitar and voice. We would like you to also cover recording other instruments.
Wish I could’ve got these tones at Sweetwater guitarfest today. The guy behind the n95 mask not once, but twice shut the irs off on the pedal saying I didn’t need them on because they were coming from a different pedal in the chain and I would be doubling the irs or something. The pedal sounded like crap when he did it. I waited 20 min or so to play through one and that experience turned me off from the whole thing.
90% of the product demos you see on TH-cam are a form of commercial. Unless the person tells you outright that they're not getting paid or that they purchased the product for themselves.
Too bad you have awful customer service. Charging $90/hr on repair work for pedals that cost $400 is criminal. Glad I learned this before ever giving this company any of my money! 👍🏻
Some amazing acting in this. Good on whoever realized Angela hadn't said or contributed anything, made sure she said something, and still contributed nothing of substance to the video.
Sounds pretty clear to me on headphones. It may be the speakers you are listening to it on. If anything, I thought it had a bit too much treble at some parts, but that’s really a tonal preference. Either way, it sounds like a well recorded Marshall to me.
I have the Dream and the lion already, both are killer. Make a 5150 or dual rec next and i'll be complete. A side note, plz make a Binson echorec it's kinda surprising UAD haven't done one up to this point but a man can dream
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This is now my “amp.” Decades of carrying around tube amps from Fender, Marshall, Laney and Vox, and I’m super happy with the Lion - and so is my back! Just an incredible bit of kit.
James is the man... without question... killler product after killer product coming out of UA with his finger prints all over them.
🤘🏻
James Santiago should get the Nobel Peace Prize for his incredible knowledge of all this tone history and coming out with products like this! Cheers to you James and UA team!!
What? That prize is awarded to those who have "done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses." Your use of the example is illogical.
@@XXjg_Whoa this guy just taught me something new with that very informative comment. He should win the Nobel Peace Prize for that.
He should also get the Darwin award for most useless connectivity regarding editing UAFX pedals !
It's the absolutely worst solution I have ever seen in my entire life !
Why they decide to go with Bluetooth and Mobile instead of a standard USB connection is a mystery !
On a positive note he must have the best ears in the business to create the Lion 68 !
I simply think sound wise the Lion 68 is the closest to the real deal !
Too bad that the editor is Bluetooth and SUCK !
@@tobbebergman7583 You can do USB, and use UA Connect. That's what I do. I have 4(?) UAFX pedals. (Edit: for updates; not for presets, so yeah... agreed. Lack of a "direct connect" editing option is an oversight.)
James Santiago is also a monster guitarist and musician.
Dweezle’s dad really had a musical philosophical impact on his son.
the best video display of this pedal. Because there's lots of top notch guitarists that make it sound so different, and great, to suit their style/feel. Sounds massive
I could listen to them talk and play for hours. Great stuff!
This kind of video format with the roundtable is very informative. You should do one with the Dream 65
Really cool to see John Notto and Angela Petrilli in this video.
I love this pedal. Of course it sounds great dirty, but one of the best things about it is the clean. It’s my favorite clean tone!
Mind sharing your clean settings?
James Santiago is an absolute treasure.....the guy continues to find lightning in a bottle.
The technology is jawdroppingly great.
It's the best pedal I've purchased, period.
It might be but after reading all the problems with Bluetooth, users are having I am NOT ordering anything from Universal Audio !
Plus the fact that it is vertically impossible to reach out to Universal Audio to get answers for a product !
We've released updated firmware that has fixed most/all problems. We're here and happy to answer any questions you have. Fire away!
Bluetooth and App sucks so much. That was the most horrible decision for these pedals. And don't get me start with the OX Stomp, the retarded app destroyed the product.
@@UniversalAudio
First I'd like to say that I am a very proud owner of a Universal Audio sound card and has always thought Universal Audio to be my first choice when it comes to audio equipment !
I have been searching a long time for a product that can deliver authentic Marshall Plexi sounds to use in my home studio.
That's why I was thrilled when I found out that UA had developed the Lion 68 and even more thrilled after hearing a dozen TH-cam reviews.
I was just about to put an order when I read about the first Bluetooth issues and the fact that there is no ordinary PC editor for the Lion 68. This means that I have no possibility to edit any of the UAFX pedals as I am very interested in several of them. My Android tablet is simply too old !
I am old school and pretty much hate Smartphones and tablets !
Why are there no ordinary PC editor ?
@@tobbebergman7583 Everything needed is right on the pedal. There are a few things in the app, but many users never touch it.
An absolute stellar bit of kit. Love mine.
This is the best video you could have made for this product. Everyone in the room is just in their element! 🤘
What did everyone use to monitor the Lion during this video shoot? Are there wedges off camera or large studio monitors, etc…?
Playing a gig tomorrow with this beast!!! One output to the baord another to a Fryette Powerstation into 1x12 for stage volume.
🤘🏻
UA is always QUALITY.
This was great to watch! It reminded me of one of Rick Beato's great sessions when he is interviewing multiple players and letting each of them play during the session. Super informative and super fun!
I wish everybody had friend like James Santiago. And by ”everybody” I mean ”I wish I had friend like JS”.
Love my Lion play it everyday and found everyday that my tone is a little better ! John notto is the man really like his playing ❤
Well done James and UFAX💪 This has got to be one of the best pedals EVER created..... followed by the Ruby....to my ears.
I'm getting mine in a few days and I can't wait. finally I can gig and jam without having to carry a heavy amp. yesterday we where at the studio and I had to carry it 4 floors up :)) a lot of sims let me down but this seems really solid
You need to get George Lynch, Warren DeMartini & Jake E Lee all together and do a video of them playing this!
@@jeffallen3382 I'd be willing to pay for that.
Yesssssssss🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🥹🥹🥹
Why? What would they add to this video?
@@MW47742 OLD SCHOOL 80's METAL sound. Not just rock. I am considering buying this right now but I wanna know if it will do old school metal.
I have the Lion ‘68 and Dream ‘65 into a Fender FR-12. Great with pedals too. Done.
Please make more collective videos like this, with players interacting with each other and sharing experiences, instead of just wanking by themselves. Btw the product sounds great.
I totally agree. I started to hate those videos where there are five virtuosos competing in meaningless wanking and showing off
Sounds great! I Wondering if the team could produce a Dual Rectifier "in a box" version soon. The late 90's/early 2000 metal tone is such a staple for many guitarists of my generation! I would buy in a heartbeat. Great video btw!
Love my Lion but to be perfect, it should have the option to switch to the stock 5000pF bright cap and not only between the modded 100pf and no cap...
I miss that agressiveness that the stock bright cap gives to the amp
Love mine - sounds awesome! If you love the Marshall sound just grab one of these - it's a no brainer.
Sell the DSP versions of these for Apollo interfaces please...
The pedal is phenomenal. The smartphone app….not so much, even after the recent update. If we could have a desktop app it would be amazing.
UA can you put the plate reverb there as an option ? it is only in JS preset, but can it be feature, so I can have it in both channels ?
Awesome 👏
When are the artists presets coming to Lion?
I have a question about this pedal. I know its now the amp, but where are you placing things like reverb and delay pedals on it? Does it have an effects loop for that?
12:12 with the EV got very 70’s Nugent. In general though, all the sounds have too soft an edge to them. I tried a 65 dream (as in bought) and it just didn’t sound like I had mic’d a decent Deluxe Reverb. It lacked a little in almost every aspect. Punch, dynamics, sweetness. I tried to stick with it for a while to see if I could find my way in dialing it and it just never came together. Tried it in amp, loop returns and direct.
When will UA update OX Box with these?
Sooo when are we getting that big reverb sound from the pedal itself? 😗
Will there be a Satch head version ? - please. 😁
Sounds great. What is the signal path? Lion straight to the PA?
yes.
How do you set the interface’s gain with this pedal? Is there a number on the meter you are shooting for, or 0 gain like the Neural DSP plugins, or just enough to not clip, etc…?
It works like an amp, just plug in and dial it like a regular plexi. No input gain or capture reamp level nonsense
-12 db average with max peaks of -6db - like literally everything else going to an interface
@@rzk2755 except Neural DSP plugins
@@rzk2755 lol that is way too hot to be running digital signals, you don't need peaks higher than -20 anymore...
So it goes guitar into the lion and from the Lions straight to the interface???
yup!
What was the back line for how the Lion was amplified?
The video is just the output of the pedal. But many users use FRFR cabs for stage monitoring.
@@UniversalAudio Cheers. How we're you monitoring in the room as you demoed the Lion- through an FRFR?
Can someone please answer this question: I see other companies like this coming out with single amp pedals. Why choose these instead of something like tonex, helix, etc. especially as much as they cost? I am fully willing to consider it, but when I could have an infinite number of amps vs. Just one.
Our goal is to absolutely positively nail, the perfect version of one amp per pedal. Many players have very specific amps that they want to use. We do understand where you’re coming from, for example, a guitarist in a cover band needs to cover a lot of ground. But we see lots of users using UAFX pedals together to accomplish this as well.
You have to buy more products to get variety of sounds. That simple.
Simplicity is the main reason. There’s a lot of players who don’t want a million amps in a single pedal. All they want is something that they can plug into, just like the the real amp, and set their eq and volume and go. It’s especially easy for guys that come from having a lot of tube Amps, a guitar, and a pedalboard. So this way, they can replace their marshal full stack with this pedal instead, either for recording or gigs where they don’t want to bring a full rig. One thing is for sure, sometimes simplicity and limiting your options can make creating music way easier. There’s something to be said for just being able to plug in your guitar, open your DAW of choice, and go. All your pedals and settings are ready to go, and you don’t have to scroll thru a hundred amps you don’t want to use.
Also, the UAD stuff is just really good quality. You are kind of paying for that quality and consistency. Where as if you by something like a helix,you may have to play around a ton to get a good Marshall sound that sounds anywhere as close to this pedal. But like I said originally, simplicity is really the reason.
@@UniversalAudio Guitars in any cover band should be going for a good tone overall and then nailing the song, not trying to have a patch per song with completely different effects. You'll never be 20 guitar players, you will always just be you.
@@anotheryoutubedExactly! I'm playing in a hobby level band, just for fun in a rehearsal space. Only using a xotic sl drive and reverb, it force me to use the volume control alot.
A little bit info-mercial but s😢still a good video. I’m a UA fan, so I’m biased ❤
14:25 Armed and Ready “🤘
Thank you! Was gonna ask what that riff was as I hear Leon Todd playing it all the time and had no clue. Consider me educated
And it sounded GREAT for it also. OMG I think I may have to snag one of these up.
@@duncanmarriott5909 Micheal Schenker \m/ \m/
Using a real guitar amp is like unlocking the soul of your instrument. There's a certain magic in the way a true amp responds to your playing, capturing every nuance of your touch and transforming it into a rich, organic sound. Unlike digital emulations, which can feel sterile or lifeless, a real amp breathes and interacts with you, creating a dynamic relationship between the player and the music. The warmth of the tubes, the bite of the overdrive, and the sheer presence that fills a room cannot be replicated. It’s not just about hearing the music; it’s about feeling it resonate through your bones, vibrating with the raw energy and authenticity that only a real amp can deliver. Whether you're chasing the perfect tone or simply want to experience the pure, unfiltered voice of your guitar, nothing compares to the power and presence of a real amp.
You are not right. To much philosophyng and ovethinking. Did you try Tonex od NAM?
@@VanjaSpirin I don't have to be right, I need Rock and Roll. Best of luck, do what makes you happy. ;)
Please do Ampeg Bass in the next box
Lotta buckers and weighty sounds, let’s hear an ultimate big strat sound pleeezze
When will we see an upgrade or addition of a 5k or 5000pf bright cap.. the 100pf that the pedal was modeled with just doesn't cut it for the cutting edge you get using the stock 5000pf bright cap... the Randy Rhoads, EVH or YJM tone can only be achieved with a 5000pf cap.. 100pf is cool but still love the Marshall Super Lead.. glass bottles on the finger tips sounds... bright bass notes not the flabbiness of a 100pf bright cap..
Yes, I understand I can have a Reverb pedal after. But why not have it it is already possible? I just gigged with it and the sound guys tried to use the room emulation but after few tries they just told me to shut it off because it sounded bad
The sound guys had no reverb unit to play with on their mixing desk? No outboard gear at all? Sorry, these can't be called "sound guys". What you need is a modeller with built in multiple effects.
so they had a budget for only one guitar cable?
#inflation!!! 🤣
can you run this thing in front of my amps clean channel?
Sure.
Which reverb setting in the pedal is best for the early EVH sound?
Plate reverb panned left. Use your ears and understand the settings, no witchcraft…
@@7Boots Thanks. I get that. I know its a plate panned to one side. What I asked was which preset or reverb from the pedal would work best.
@@rikshredderthe pedal doesn’t have reverb
Yes, there is no reverb. For early VH, use the “Brown” presets or “Mean Green Street”. “Brown Devil” = Running with the Devil (VH 1) and “Mean Green Street” = Mean Street (Fair Warning).
I think some of the presets even have a slight reverb included, but you might use an additional plate for the long decay times…
@@7Boots Thanks.
Thought viper closed down…
1/2 as much $ and I'd be sold.
Please also do some videos on violin and saxophone. UA is too much about drums, guitar and voice. We would like you to also cover recording other instruments.
Wish I could’ve got these tones at Sweetwater guitarfest today. The guy behind the n95 mask not once, but twice shut the irs off on the pedal saying I didn’t need them on because they were coming from a different pedal in the chain and I would be doubling the irs or something. The pedal sounded like crap when he did it. I waited 20 min or so to play through one and that experience turned me off from the whole thing.
That is not Rock and Roll. Let me hate that guy for you.
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience. All the more reason a vid like this is valuable!
Do Ace Frehley 1977
sounds like a recording of a plexi
is it just me or does Dweezil Zappa sound (and look) more than a little like Rick Beato? lol
I bought the dream 65’ and after watching this … or I bought the wrong one or I have to buy the Lion 😅 dang
No such thing as the "wrong one"!!! Dream is AMAZING!!!
should have had an FX loop, V2
Jackson Eric Jones Edward Lopez Jason
well it is a infomercial
90% of the product demos you see on TH-cam are a form of commercial. Unless the person tells you outright that they're not getting paid or that they purchased the product for themselves.
and still you watched it
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Lewis Daniel Moore Cynthia Garcia Jeffrey
I can feel the latency. Make the analog version!
Paroles encore trop de paroles
Allen George Davis Kenneth Walker Margaret
Too bad you have awful customer service. Charging $90/hr on repair work for pedals that cost $400 is criminal. Glad I learned this before ever giving this company any of my money! 👍🏻
Some amazing acting in this. Good on whoever realized Angela hadn't said or contributed anything, made sure she said something, and still contributed nothing of substance to the video.
Great players but the EA Lion has always sounded like a fuzz box, nothing more no matter what guitar.
So not rock'n'roll
sounds pretty muddy here
No. It's UA
It's difficult to find where anything by them sounds average.The best company.The range of sounds is perfect.
Sounds pretty clear to me on headphones. It may be the speakers you are listening to it on. If anything, I thought it had a bit too much treble at some parts, but that’s really a tonal preference. Either way, it sounds like a well recorded Marshall to me.
This actually impressed me a lot more than the Dream DR reverb pedal has so far.
I have the Dream and the lion already, both are killer. Make a 5150 or dual rec next and i'll be complete. A side note, plz make a Binson echorec it's kinda surprising UAD haven't done one up to this point but a man can dream
Zappa should shut up more