Yeah I was like "I like yumytvs videos but I already know this"... Then I caught myself way out of my demographic playing videos because the suggestions are shit some days x) At least this is closer to my preference than Lockpicking Lawyer...
@@plmPissekatt At least its not worse than "coming next" videos. I always get videos Ive already watched. Its more or less a loop of 3-4 videos lol. xD
"while your mouse hand is completely free to uh... select enemies precisely and adjust your camera of course what else will you use it for" best advice thanks :)
Well since I have insomnia anyway, here some thoughts about good keybinds: Z,X,C,V and especially space key are IMO the best keybinds for GCD locked non-caster classes, since you can use them with your thumb, while keeping your fingers on the WASD keys, wich is golden in unpredictable movement situations like machinist garden etc. With all other keybinds, you sometimes have to "stance dance", for example when you're strafing to the right with D, while having to press F, or G, which can quickly lead to partial GCD losses. I would really recommend binding jump to middle mouse key or something, since Space and Shift-Space are just such nice keybinds, not only for easier movement, but especially for classes where you have to use one spell a lot. With space, you can thumb-spam your lighning bolts, frost bolts etc., without having to alter the position of your hand on the keyboard, which is very comfy in long sessions. It's a good thing to have all non GCD abilities on your mouse (buttons and mouse wheel up/done etc.), so you don't have to remember which abilities are wich type, and can use them simultaneously with the keyboard abilities without much spamming. Mouse wheel is also one of the coolest buttons, since you can spam it very quickly without much effort. This is particularly nice for abilities with several charges but no GCD, like guardian druids iron skin stacks. Also, binding 2 similar GCD spells (like e.g. damage reductions, taunts, or instant heals) to mouse wheel up and down, gives you the perfect emergency or EITHER-OR button, With one up-and-down mouse wheel flick, you don't risk overhealing or wasting taunts or damage reductions since the GCD prevents both abilities from triggering at the same time, should they both be available, but you can keep flicking it for 1,5 seconds, should you want to trigger the 2nd ability too. And while flicking, you have the other hand still free for movement. IMO, binding often used rotational abilities to a mmo-mouse is a terrible solution, since it comes in your way when you have to move the mouse for target selection, mouse-over dotting, mouse strafing/ movement, etc. But for abilities with longer cooldowns (15sec plus) and more situational spells it's very nice to have. But if it has to many buttons on the side, it will require you A LOT of practice to not accidentaly press those buttons while moving the mouse, since most people are used to move their mouse with a firm grip. 3 or 4 side buttons is IMO more than enough, since you can also combine them with keyboard modifiers, for more binds.
Using your pinkie knuckle for the ctrl key is genius! Curious how you feel about "click healing" vs keyboard keys + mouseover macros? A tip from me: As a tank, I primarily walk/steer/strafe using mouse buttons. This opens up all kinds of keybinds that might otherwise be impossible (ie, Shift + 1 while strafing left). With some practice, you can seamlessly delegate movement to the "less busy" hand when the situation requires it. Also great for kiting DPS classes like Mages and Hunters.
Click healing is always slower than using mouseover macro's. Not just that, but you also don't have to retarged the mob/boss to deal damage to or interrupt. EDIT: 3 years too late, woops.
I use weak auras and keep all my hotbars hidden except for a utility one I use for crafting, hearthing, and misc. I found an MMO mouse to be invaluable. I really don't think you need to KB every single ability that's insane. I have my tank rotation and my oh crap abilities memorized.
Short question: what about lefthanded people? 😅 I'm left handed my self and I ended up having both hands on the keyboard and only use the mouse to Jump around 😅
@@FoxdayMusic so, where isn't that an argument? I mean there an entire modifier missing (ALT in that case) and besides that, it's a fact that for lefthanded keyboards they just switched up the positon of the main keybord and the numblock. So I don't get your point there
I have no idea how I'm supposed to position my hand to press ctrl like he suggested to. That would mean all the other fingers are bent instead of lying flat on the keyboard. Weird
Helpful Resto Druid macros: #showtooltip /use [talent:3/1] Typhoon; [talent:3/2] Maim; [talent:3/3] Incapacitating Roar This will allow you to use the corresponding ability based on the talent selected. #showtooltip /cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Lifebloom;[@target, harm, nodead] Shred #showtooltip /cast [@mouseover, help, nodead]Swiftmend;[@target, harm, nodead] Rake #showtooltip /cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Rejuvenation;[@target, harm, nodead] Rip #showtooltip /cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Wild Growth;[@target, harm, nodead] Ferocious Bite OR: #showtooltip /cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Lifebloom;[@target, harm, nodead] Wrath #showtooltip /cast [@mouseover, help, nodead]Swiftmend;[@target, harm, nodead] Sunfire #showtooltip /cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Rejuvenation;[@target, harm, nodead] Moonfire #showtooltip /cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Regrowth;[@target, harm, nodead] Starsurge #showtooltip /cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Wild Growth;[@target, harm, nodead] Starfire These will allow you to use 2 abilities on the same bind depending on the situation, and help with the druid button bloat. If you are moused over a friendly target, it will take you out of cat or moonkin form and use the heal. If you aren't moused over a friendly target, AND in cat or moonkin form with an enemy targeted, it will use the dps ability. They are, of course, interchangeable if you want different combinations. :)
So do you move your mouse to the target frame to cast the offensive spell? I always think that this risks accidentally mousing over a friendly character model
@@saganakist I mouse click or tab target an enemy nameplate to select a target. The macro does the rest with friendly party or raid frames. I understand the concern, but it doesn't really happen in my experience.
To take the affinity talent row macro to another level, if you are playing more than one druid spec, you do not need to make separate macroes for them. #showtooltip /use [spec:1,talent:3/1][spec:3/4,talent:3/2]Maim;[spec:1/2,talent:3/2][spec:4,talent:3/3]Incapacitating Roar;[spec:1/2/3,talent:3/3]Ursol's Vortex;[spec:2/3/4,talent:3/1]Typhoon; This covers all specs and all affinities.
Do these default to blizz logic if requirements are not met? Like lets say you have no target and ur not mouse over anything? Will lifebloom then go on yourself?
You might notice that some players jump a lot. This is to enable movement while using instant spells. If you jump during movement, you don't lose momentum. For that brief moment your hand is completely free and you can use any instant spell combination you want. I, myself, learned this intuitively - never thought about not putting instants on 2.
Backpeddle is an important bind for tanks. Sometimes you need to position either yourself or mobs a very specific way and/or just a tiny inch and strafing might not do the trick.
yup, in PVE sometimes you need the backpaddle to readjust positioning to shits on ground. Turning camera > strafe > turn camera back is 3 actions, as opposed to back paddling is only 1 action for the same purpose. In pvp back paddling is a bad thing to do
@@semtur8824 I play with left strafe bound to z and right strafe bound to x. Autorun us bound to mousewheel click and alsp bound to a side mouse button. I don't have backpedal bound at all, since there is no need for melee dps to ever backpedal.
I hate modifiers on the keyboard, but modifiers are necassary. My tip: Use a simple gaming mouse (2 thumb buttons are enought) and put 2 modifiers on the mouse. This way you don't have to press any modifiers on the keyboard. Using this since MoP, its fantastic and super easy to learn.
MMO Mouse is an amazing tool, using g600 pretty much since it's release in the 2012. I've tried Naga as well, but didn't like it. So you'll have to check few different mice to figure out what fits you. I'm surprised you haven't mentioned using VuhDo or similar addons, that will allow you to "bind" spells to your left/right/middle/additional mouse buttons when you're hovering the VuhDo frame, saving a lot of keybinds for the other spells. For example I'm learning shaman now, and have binded: LMB: Healing Surge RMB: Chain Heal MMB: Healing Wave Alt + LMB: Riptide Alt + RMB: Unleash Life Ctrl + LMB: Purify Ctrl + RMB: Target
VuhDo is the ONLY way I can heal (I've a lot of alts) but it does have one serious flaw and that's if someone drops mid fight the bars will not update. Meaning if someone new joins I can't "see" them to heal them.
Ive been clicking since vanilla. Just started playing again, after quitting during Legion. I'm actually uncomfortable clicking now, and trying to use keybinds now.
Easiest way to hotkey is get a 12 button gaming mouse and use 1-12 of the mouse and alt+1-12 and shift+1-12 it's the easiest keybinding to learn because you never have to take your hand on wasd
@@PedroHawk1 never i'm too stubborn i'm able to play just fine i have my important buttons key binded though like interuppts, stuns, heals, and defensive just not my offensive spells
Easiest way to hotkey is get a 12 button gaming mouse and use 1-12 of the mouse and alt+1-12 and shift+1-12 it's the easiest keybinding to learn because you never have to take your hand on wasd
Shift+spacebar Ctrl+spacebar Ctrl+alt+scroll up/down Just some odd binds i use If you got a naga mouse. Use the software to macro shift+Ctrl, shift+Alt, Ctrl+Alt on 3 buttons that is hardly used in combat. Now you have 3 new modifiers for all other buttons.
Quick tip: you can bind a rotational instant ability (like rejuvenation) to 2 and you can jump forward and that frees your w/2 finger for a split second
Omg. :,( that cat melted. I couldnt watch the rest.. Joking!! keep adding more cats! Also i agree with keybindings. One tip i can share is to use training dummies to practice your keybindings. Even healers can use dummies to practice healin ^^. (whispers* heal urself ;);)) Also doesnt everyone use their knuckles to press ctrl button? I thought that was the norm.
I really don't know why people are so against clicking. Nobody I've played with has ever known I click until I tell them, and then they want to screen share so they can see me prove it because they refuse to believe anyone could be so competent as a clicker. Play games how you want to play them, man.
@@DriftNick I never said anything about there being no benefits to binding, nor did I claim to be a good player. I said competent. Did you skip primary school reading or something? Get out.
Since I had to rebind a lot of keys, I developed some fixed steps to help organize them: - Clean your whole UI and start from zero. Take this chance to reread all your skills. This will often help you diagnose misuses and come up with better places/binds for your skills. - Organize them visually *before* binding any keys to any place. Your keybinds will often not make any sense visually. - Try not to strain either of your hands too much. Remember you can always bind stuff on your mouse too. Including on scroll up/down and pressing the wheel. Also remember both your mouse and keyboard have a limit to buttons pressed at the same time, so plan well for this. - Group your abilities per use (e.g. "rotation", "damage cooldowns", "defensive cooldowns", "crowd control") and keep them visually together. This way you only need to remember which group they're in to figure where they are. - Make sure to not place important cooldowns bound close to abilities you'll use with frequency (e.g. Interrupt on Q and Divine Shield on shift + Q), as that can cost you dearly. - Every single time you change your keybinds, make sure you do *extensive* testing. You don't want to forget where you put stuff during combat, you don't want to lag, you don't want to press the old key by mistake, and most importantly, you don't want to find out too late that you're having a tough time to cast that while walking around.
Just to make this more interesting, you can use shift+scroll up, down and click, crtl+scroll up, down and click and, finally, alt+scroll up, down and click. 9 spells on your mouse. And if you have a "normal" mouse with the thumb buttons you can add them too... So you can have 17 spells on your mouse if you want...
I really like my "Caps lock" keybind with interrupt on all my characters and shift+space for thing that are like a jump, like goblin racial, disengange, charge, wild charge and so on
I prefer to bind interrupts on scroll up because I figured it's the fastest keybind I can use. But I think I'll try using these ideas of yours in some way.
I unbound backpedal from S and put it on CTRL S. Worked wonders for me and helped retrain my movement quickly, as I now have to think an extra step before pressing it, and eventually that inconvenience retrained me to not rely on it yet still be able to use it easily whilst I was adjusting.
I think the whole anti backpedel narrative is totally overblown personally. Clicking is bad, and keyboard turning is also bad, but backpedaling is absolutely useful and perfectly fine to do in many situations and side strafing backwords as an alternative is clunky and has it's own very real issues in actual practice. If you're trying to run away at full speed while still attacking as a Hunter, that's like one of the few times backpedaling is legitimately bad, but if you're some melee trying to position properly to keep uptime while staying mobile, backpedal is absolutely fine to do. I'll never remove backpedal, it's just another movement tool and to remove it hamstrings your ability to move exactly the way that you want to.
question: is there a particular reason why you use mouseover macros to heal instead of just binding your healing spells to different mouse clicks and modifiers through vuhdo? for example, i bind my rejuv to left click, my swiftmend to shift + left click, etc. this allows me to free up a lot of keyboard binds for rotational/utility/cooldown abilities, and makes it really easy to heal while moving. to me, it's always felt faster than using mouseover macros, but it seems to be a much less popular method for healing. it's always worked well for me, but i'm planning on trying to push keys in shadowlands, so i'm wondering if there's a reason not as many people seem to do it? thanks!
I'm coming back into this game after a 12+ year break. I don't remember having issues with keeping track of keys for my abilities... The biggest issue I had as a tank, is I was completely tunnel visioned on the ability icons themselves. I was constantly watching the timers and to see when things would come off cooldown and I was so hyper focused on watching this, that I had a hell of a hard time knowing what was going on in the actual game itself. It became increasingly stressful the more difficult content became, and by the time I was trying to tank 10 man raids...I quickly burnt out and quit. At least jumping back into the game I'm well aware that this is an issue for me, so I can work on it as I slowly level a new alt up.
I've always rebound movement to esdf since my quakeworld team fortress days 20 years ago. I did it partly for access to more keys, but mostly because as a touch typist it's where my hand naturally wants to be.
the corsair scimitar's [1] button is so close to the desk, I cannot push it without pushing another button. I've always used a razer naga since the very first version and I LOVE it. I always get the new version when its released. Currently using the pro. It's wireless with a dock for quick charging. I FKING LOVE IT!!!!
My set-up: Q,E,R,F,2 main rotation Q builder + shift defensive CD E: spender + shift offensive CD F: proc spell that you need to cast fast + shift - spell that triggers it R/shift+R: AoE spells C interrupt, + shift CC G stun + shift purge/dispell/spellsteal X slow fall, glider Z shield T taunt or some ranged spell 1 slow 2 big dmg spell on CD 3 borrowed spell in expansion - HoA,... 4 big dmg spell on CD 5 pets/adds caps lock: heal Mouse buttons - mount, autorun, blink etc.
Using ESDF instead of WASD has made a huge difference in the comfort of playing and the number of keybinds I can reach with my left hand. Took a few days to get used to but I don't know if I could go back
Listen fam I get aotc and ksm no problem while clicking all my spells. It's fine if you master it. BUT!!! You can do even better by using keybinds. I switched this expansion after 13 years of clicking. It's always going to be better in the long run if you just learn keybinds. An MMO mouse is awesome if you lack dexterity in your left hand.
I'm a mmo NPC I've been playing for years off and on and I am BIG on clicking but I have never done raids or anything past dungeons with players so clicking was always something I did but i wanna get better at wow so I'm gonna HOPE I can get past this phase its really hard getting out of clicking
I came back to wow and keybinded my way to 60 then I started playing with friends of friends, they hate my razer Huntsman clicky clicky keys coming over coms.....I’m now a mouse clicker.
Get an MMO mouse with 10-12 buttons on the side. Keep your left hand on your movement keys. With your thumb and pinky you should have access to SHIFT, CTRL,ALT, SHIFT+ALT, & CTRL+ALT pretty easily. That gives you up to a maximum of 60- 72 keybinds without ever having to move your left hand off WASD for movement and you can still move with the mouse. Once you master this it really opens up movement and control of your character. I found it helpful to have my actual buttons on screen oriented in the same way as the side of the MMO mouse when learning this setup. good luck.
I really disliked WoW until I got a MMO mouse. The game is unplayable for me without it. There are just too many abilities that require mapping and a ton of movement is required in raids compared to the MMO I came from (EQ2). Having a MMO mouse lets me more easily execute my rotation and keeps my left hand free to move to do raid mechanics.
The Logitech g600 is amazing, could not recommend that mouse enough. It has a 3rd click on the far right that acts as a shift click to give all your mouse buttons a second function while you are holding it down. I can bind 24 abilities to my mouse
Keybinding is HUGE. Preach got the message out 8 years ago, Im glad you bring it up and teach as you do, loads of people will benefit from this. I've found 12345QERTFC and shift variations of these being extremely easy to press if youve got less mouse button choices. All my DoT classes have main dots Q/E. All classes interrupt/dispel on 1. R/F is main stuff, Frost Strike/Oblit, Wrath/Starfire, Fireball/Pyroblast etc. Makes classes feel a little similar, but makes multiclassing stuff super easy.
My mouse has 8 click options and then I shift or control. This way using mouse over to cast so I never hit any key’s other than moving, shift and control
Gread video. Can you do a video showing your used addons and settings? :) I use Vuhdo and I'm impressed by the information your interface puts out (Monk stagger value for example)
One thing I like to do with a 12-button mouse is make sure 2 of those buttons are set to A and D keypresses respectively. Being able to completely control your movement with either hand really frees up the amount of binds that you can use on the move.
This all is complicated af. I have 1-6 and q-y. Everything else I click. The only thing I haven’t figured out is how to heal someone without targeting them. I just wanna be able to hover over their name and hit 1 while still targeting enemy to kick his casts. It seems the only way to do this is by doing macros. But I don’t use macros either. Too complicated
How I was taught, and this may work for others as well: I am using a normal keyboard, and a Logitech G502 mouse. I main Monk. I have three main hotbars. The main is R-Q, F-A, V-Z. The second is R-Ctrl (mapped to DPS Shift button) + R-Q, F-A, V-Z. The third is 1-6, and R-Ctrl + 1-6. The two buttons on the top of my mouse, next to the left button, are mapped to 1 and 2, which is for movement abilities. The default back button on the mouse is mapped to autorun toggle. The default forward button now pulls up Opie. I keep two extra hotbars in the corner of my screen for things I just don't need to use often, and are not mapped: revives, Zen Pilgramage, food, gliders, profession skills. I generally reserve R-Q for attacks or main abilities for the spec. F-A for stuns, overflow abilities. V-Z for self heals and cleansers. Ctrl V-Z for mitigators. The numbers bar is reserved for, in this order: Movement, long drink buffs (Mana Tea), mounts, revives.
one note about the corsair mmo mouse, the 1 and 4 keys are practically on the mat i have big hands and find i end up lifting the mouse to press it which is obviously NOT ideal! Im only using it because SOMEBODY spilled beer on my razer naga which i LOVED
I have trouble hitting F4 and F5. Should I wake up 30 minutes each morning before playing WOW and do finger stretches? I've seen M+ guys mash that f5 key like nothing. I feel so weak.
The first step is to backpedal. The next step is to remove backpedal from your binds. The ultimate step is to put backpedal back in your keybindings (and find other binds for those abilities you bound to S), and use it like a pro only whenever you have to. If you don't believe me, try moving out of the cage thing whatever it's called from horrific visions while channeling fists of fury AND dealing damage with it, without backpedaling.
what activities would you suggest doing to get used to the new keybinds? I'm switching from numpad to left hand so I can actually have my hand on the mouse
Now i feel like a pleb since i clicked on this video.
Yeah I was like "I like yumytvs videos but I already know this"... Then I caught myself way out of my demographic playing videos because the suggestions are shit some days x)
At least this is closer to my preference than Lockpicking Lawyer...
Brah I keybound this vid... super helpful!
@@plmPissekatt At least its not worse than "coming next" videos. I always get videos Ive already watched. Its more or less a loop of 3-4 videos lol. xD
I'm a pro clicker.
"while your mouse hand is completely free to uh... select enemies precisely and adjust your camera of course what else will you use it for" best advice thanks :)
Well since I have insomnia anyway, here some thoughts about good keybinds:
Z,X,C,V and especially space key are IMO the best keybinds for GCD locked non-caster classes, since you can use them with your thumb, while keeping your fingers on the WASD keys, wich is golden in unpredictable movement situations like machinist garden etc. With all other keybinds, you sometimes have to "stance dance", for example when you're strafing to the right with D, while having to press F, or G, which can quickly lead to partial GCD losses.
I would really recommend binding jump to middle mouse key or something, since Space and Shift-Space are just such nice keybinds, not only for easier movement, but especially for classes where you have to use one spell a lot. With space, you can thumb-spam your lighning bolts, frost bolts etc., without having to alter the position of your hand on the keyboard, which is very comfy in long sessions.
It's a good thing to have all non GCD abilities on your mouse (buttons and mouse wheel up/done etc.), so you don't have to remember which abilities are wich type, and can use them simultaneously with the keyboard abilities without much spamming.
Mouse wheel is also one of the coolest buttons, since you can spam it very quickly without much effort. This is particularly nice for abilities with several charges but no GCD, like guardian druids iron skin stacks. Also, binding 2 similar GCD spells (like e.g. damage reductions, taunts, or instant heals) to mouse wheel up and down, gives you the perfect emergency or EITHER-OR button, With one up-and-down mouse wheel flick, you don't risk overhealing or wasting taunts or damage reductions since the GCD prevents both abilities from triggering at the same time, should they both be available, but you can keep flicking it for 1,5 seconds, should you want to trigger the 2nd ability too. And while flicking, you have the other hand still free for movement.
IMO, binding often used rotational abilities to a mmo-mouse is a terrible solution, since it comes in your way when you have to move the mouse for target selection, mouse-over dotting, mouse strafing/ movement, etc. But for abilities with longer cooldowns (15sec plus) and more situational spells it's very nice to have. But if it has to many buttons on the side, it will require you A LOT of practice to not accidentaly press those buttons while moving the mouse, since most people are used to move their mouse with a firm grip. 3 or 4 side buttons is IMO more than enough, since you can also combine them with keyboard modifiers, for more binds.
Using your pinkie knuckle for the ctrl key is genius! Curious how you feel about "click healing" vs keyboard keys + mouseover macros?
A tip from me: As a tank, I primarily walk/steer/strafe using mouse buttons. This opens up all kinds of keybinds that might otherwise be impossible (ie, Shift + 1 while strafing left). With some practice, you can seamlessly delegate movement to the "less busy" hand when the situation requires it. Also great for kiting DPS classes like Mages and Hunters.
Click healing is always slower than using mouseover macro's. Not just that, but you also don't have to retarged the mob/boss to deal damage to or interrupt.
EDIT: 3 years too late, woops.
I use weak auras and keep all my hotbars hidden except for a utility one I use for crafting, hearthing, and misc. I found an MMO mouse to be invaluable. I really don't think you need to KB every single ability that's insane. I have my tank rotation and my oh crap abilities memorized.
How did you get that arch progression bar?
Short question: what about lefthanded people? 😅 I'm left handed my self and I ended up having both hands on the keyboard and only use the mouse to Jump around 😅
Buy a mouse with 2 or more buttons. use these for modifiers CRTL/SHIFT/ALT. then use any binds that fit.
There are left handed keyboards out there as well
@@FoxdayMusic I play most of the time on a Notebook😅 and besides: just mirroring something doesn't solve the problem
@@jamoinibims8398 The notebook argument makes sense, the other one doesn't
@@FoxdayMusic so, where isn't that an argument? I mean there an entire modifier missing (ALT in that case) and besides that, it's a fact that for lefthanded keyboards they just switched up the positon of the main keybord and the numblock. So I don't get your point there
are your fingers too long to keep the pinky straight for control haha
I have no idea how I'm supposed to position my hand to press ctrl like he suggested to.
That would mean all the other fingers are bent instead of lying flat on the keyboard. Weird
But but but...its what I do!
the f for executions to pay respects caught me off guard lmao
I put shadow word death on F.
f for overpower and execute on x because x's gonna give it to ya
Loool I always use F for that, and this is way before that scene/meme was born
My Warrior execute was always on F for some reason
I tend to put my executions on the delete button, efficent? No. Fun? Definitely
Helpful Resto Druid macros:
#showtooltip
/use [talent:3/1] Typhoon; [talent:3/2] Maim; [talent:3/3] Incapacitating Roar
This will allow you to use the corresponding ability based on the talent selected.
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Lifebloom;[@target, harm, nodead] Shred
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover, help, nodead]Swiftmend;[@target, harm, nodead] Rake
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Rejuvenation;[@target, harm, nodead] Rip
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Wild Growth;[@target, harm, nodead] Ferocious Bite
OR:
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Lifebloom;[@target, harm, nodead] Wrath
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover, help, nodead]Swiftmend;[@target, harm, nodead] Sunfire
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Rejuvenation;[@target, harm, nodead] Moonfire
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Regrowth;[@target, harm, nodead] Starsurge
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Wild Growth;[@target, harm, nodead] Starfire
These will allow you to use 2 abilities on the same bind depending on the situation, and help with the druid button bloat. If you are moused over a friendly target, it will take you out of cat or moonkin form and use the heal. If you aren't moused over a friendly target, AND in cat or moonkin form with an enemy targeted, it will use the dps ability. They are, of course, interchangeable if you want different combinations. :)
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So do you move your mouse to the target frame to cast the offensive spell? I always think that this risks accidentally mousing over a friendly character model
@@saganakist I mouse click or tab target an enemy nameplate to select a target. The macro does the rest with friendly party or raid frames. I understand the concern, but it doesn't really happen in my experience.
To take the affinity talent row macro to another level, if you are playing more than one druid spec, you do not need to make separate macroes for them.
#showtooltip
/use [spec:1,talent:3/1][spec:3/4,talent:3/2]Maim;[spec:1/2,talent:3/2][spec:4,talent:3/3]Incapacitating Roar;[spec:1/2/3,talent:3/3]Ursol's Vortex;[spec:2/3/4,talent:3/1]Typhoon;
This covers all specs and all affinities.
Do these default to blizz logic if requirements are not met? Like lets say you have no target and ur not mouse over anything? Will lifebloom then go on yourself?
You might notice that some players jump a lot. This is to enable movement while using instant spells. If you jump during movement, you don't lose momentum. For that brief moment your hand is completely free and you can use any instant spell combination you want. I, myself, learned this intuitively - never thought about not putting instants on 2.
Backpeddle is an important bind for tanks. Sometimes you need to position either yourself or mobs a very specific way and/or just a tiny inch and strafing might not do the trick.
yup, in PVE sometimes you need the backpaddle to readjust positioning to shits on ground. Turning camera > strafe > turn camera back is 3 actions, as opposed to back paddling is only 1 action for the same purpose.
In pvp back paddling is a bad thing to do
back pedal goes on mouse keybind if needed and treated as utility hotkey
@@odyssean4305 sure XD
@@semtur8824 I play with left strafe bound to z and right strafe bound to x. Autorun us bound to mousewheel click and alsp bound to a side mouse button. I don't have backpedal bound at all, since there is no need for melee dps to ever backpedal.
I hate modifiers on the keyboard, but modifiers are necassary. My tip: Use a simple gaming mouse (2 thumb buttons are enought) and put 2 modifiers on the mouse. This way you don't have to press any modifiers on the keyboard. Using this since MoP, its fantastic and super easy to learn.
That is actually so smart, I never considered that!!
I’m using this I’m a mouse over and click Andy but this is nice tip i always have issues pressing shift while I use other keys it hurts my hand lol
Before even watching. NEVER!!! must keep clicking!
MMO Mouse is an amazing tool, using g600 pretty much since it's release in the 2012. I've tried Naga as well, but didn't like it. So you'll have to check few different mice to figure out what fits you.
I'm surprised you haven't mentioned using VuhDo or similar addons, that will allow you to "bind" spells to your left/right/middle/additional mouse buttons when you're hovering the VuhDo frame, saving a lot of keybinds for the other spells. For example I'm learning shaman now, and have binded:
LMB: Healing Surge
RMB: Chain Heal
MMB: Healing Wave
Alt + LMB: Riptide
Alt + RMB: Unleash Life
Ctrl + LMB: Purify
Ctrl + RMB: Target
I find it easier to bind spells and abilities to my mouse. 8 buttons
VuhDo is the ONLY way I can heal (I've a lot of alts) but it does have one serious flaw and that's if someone drops mid fight the bars will not update. Meaning if someone new joins I can't "see" them to heal them.
I feel like I've been shamed for like 10 minutes now.
Ive been clicking since vanilla. Just started playing again, after quitting during Legion. I'm actually uncomfortable clicking now, and trying to use keybinds now.
I'm too dumb to keybind but i'm still good enough for mythic raiding
Easiest way to hotkey is get a 12 button gaming mouse and use 1-12 of the mouse and alt+1-12 and shift+1-12 it's the easiest keybinding to learn because you never have to take your hand on wasd
@@ChatGBTChats yeah i'm good it really doesn't matter i only have important stuff binded
Well at the end of the day if you can crank those heals or deeps and follow mechanics it doesn't really matter how you play
It's just force of habit. If you manage to keybind stuff like the video says, you'll notice your performance improving a lot. Guaranteed.
@@PedroHawk1 never i'm too stubborn i'm able to play just fine i have my important buttons key binded though like interuppts, stuns, heals, and defensive just not my offensive spells
I've tried keybinding. Its just way too complicated. At this point I'll just stick to clicking.
Easiest way to hotkey is get a 12 button gaming mouse and use 1-12 of the mouse and alt+1-12 and shift+1-12 it's the easiest keybinding to learn because you never have to take your hand on wasd
Start small with a couple at a time, you'll be surprised how quickly you can master a few at a time.
~ Makes a vid about hotkeys and keybinds
~ Clicks with mouse to target another player :)
I click mount , soulstone and soulwell, cause all comfortable keybinds are taken xD
I mount in combat so much I bind it to "W"
Shift+spacebar
Ctrl+spacebar
Ctrl+alt+scroll up/down
Just some odd binds i use
If you got a naga mouse. Use the software to macro shift+Ctrl, shift+Alt, Ctrl+Alt on 3 buttons that is hardly used in combat. Now you have 3 new modifiers for all other buttons.
@@cpt6691 Agreed. The NAGA plug was great too. But search Amazon. I got a 12button amazing mouse for $30. No more excuses the naga is too much
"But if I use my mouse to turn, how do I click Rend?"
first step:
instead of WASD, use YGHK or yghT.
Quick tip: you can bind a rotational instant ability (like rejuvenation) to 2 and you can jump forward and that frees your w/2 finger for a split second
3:30 Hold in both mouse buttons to move foreward :)
ye but how about choosing a target when moving forward
@@justinkwong6969 click tab
@@killerbean1337 I see you don’t play pvp
@@killerbean1337 and interrupt
@@killerbean1337 omg the enemy caster is casting a full heal on the mobs. Let me just tab until I target it. Oh shit I overtabbed
Omg. :,( that cat melted. I couldnt watch the rest..
Joking!! keep adding more cats! Also i agree with keybindings.
One tip i can share is to use training dummies to practice your keybindings. Even healers can use dummies to practice healin ^^. (whispers* heal urself ;);))
Also doesnt everyone use their knuckles to press ctrl button? I thought that was the norm.
"Every character has around 20-30 unique spells that all need to be keybound." *Laughs in arcane mage*
laughs back in Beastmaster Hunter
Laughs maniacally in demon hunter
i can hear the arcane missiles from here... *cries in resto druid*
I really don't know why people are so against clicking. Nobody I've played with has ever known I click until I tell them, and then they want to screen share so they can see me prove it because they refuse to believe anyone could be so competent as a clicker. Play games how you want to play them, man.
Probably because so many clickers claim they are good players and there is no advantage to keybinding.
@@DriftNick assumptions and nonsense? Just another day on the internet!
@@mydogeatspuke How is that assumptions and nonsense? you literally did it in your comment.
@@DriftNick I never said anything about there being no benefits to binding, nor did I claim to be a good player. I said competent. Did you skip primary school reading or something? Get out.
Since I had to rebind a lot of keys, I developed some fixed steps to help organize them:
- Clean your whole UI and start from zero. Take this chance to reread all your skills. This will often help you diagnose misuses and come up with better places/binds for your skills.
- Organize them visually *before* binding any keys to any place. Your keybinds will often not make any sense visually.
- Try not to strain either of your hands too much. Remember you can always bind stuff on your mouse too. Including on scroll up/down and pressing the wheel. Also remember both your mouse and keyboard have a limit to buttons pressed at the same time, so plan well for this.
- Group your abilities per use (e.g. "rotation", "damage cooldowns", "defensive cooldowns", "crowd control") and keep them visually together. This way you only need to remember which group they're in to figure where they are.
- Make sure to not place important cooldowns bound close to abilities you'll use with frequency (e.g. Interrupt on Q and Divine Shield on shift + Q), as that can cost you dearly.
- Every single time you change your keybinds, make sure you do *extensive* testing. You don't want to forget where you put stuff during combat, you don't want to lag, you don't want to press the old key by mistake, and most importantly, you don't want to find out too late that you're having a tough time to cast that while walking around.
Just to make this more interesting, you can use shift+scroll up, down and click, crtl+scroll up, down and click and, finally, alt+scroll up, down and click. 9 spells on your mouse. And if you have a "normal" mouse with the thumb buttons you can add them too... So you can have 17 spells on your mouse if you want...
I really like my "Caps lock" keybind with interrupt on all my characters and shift+space for thing that are like a jump, like goblin racial, disengange, charge, wild charge and so on
I prefer to bind interrupts on scroll up because I figured it's the fastest keybind I can use. But I think I'll try using these ideas of yours in some way.
So keybinding is basically turning the keyboard into a Xbox controller.....
Yes, but like a less ergonomic version of 3 Xbox controllers at the same time
I unbound backpedal from S and put it on CTRL S. Worked wonders for me and helped retrain my movement quickly, as I now have to think an extra step before pressing it, and eventually that inconvenience retrained me to not rely on it yet still be able to use it easily whilst I was adjusting.
In addition to 2, I hit X, C, and V with my thumb for my instant cast rotational abilities. Makes movement in combat a hell of a lot easier.
I think the whole anti backpedel narrative is totally overblown personally. Clicking is bad, and keyboard turning is also bad, but backpedaling is absolutely useful and perfectly fine to do in many situations and side strafing backwords as an alternative is clunky and has it's own very real issues in actual practice. If you're trying to run away at full speed while still attacking as a Hunter, that's like one of the few times backpedaling is legitimately bad, but if you're some melee trying to position properly to keep uptime while staying mobile, backpedal is absolutely fine to do. I'll never remove backpedal, it's just another movement tool and to remove it hamstrings your ability to move exactly the way that you want to.
I was shamed out of clicking early on by my friends, they're good friends
question: is there a particular reason why you use mouseover macros to heal instead of just binding your healing spells to different mouse clicks and modifiers through vuhdo? for example, i bind my rejuv to left click, my swiftmend to shift + left click, etc. this allows me to free up a lot of keyboard binds for rotational/utility/cooldown abilities, and makes it really easy to heal while moving. to me, it's always felt faster than using mouseover macros, but it seems to be a much less popular method for healing. it's always worked well for me, but i'm planning on trying to push keys in shadowlands, so i'm wondering if there's a reason not as many people seem to do it? thanks!
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If you can continously sidestep while pressing your spells at ease. You have achieved mastery. (ABM - esdf method)
Third inspector bean is here to simp for Growl
you have the T on Arrrgh? what
I'm coming back into this game after a 12+ year break. I don't remember having issues with keeping track of keys for my abilities...
The biggest issue I had as a tank, is I was completely tunnel visioned on the ability icons themselves. I was constantly watching the timers and to see when things would come off cooldown and I was so hyper focused on watching this, that I had a hell of a hard time knowing what was going on in the actual game itself. It became increasingly stressful the more difficult content became, and by the time I was trying to tank 10 man raids...I quickly burnt out and quit.
At least jumping back into the game I'm well aware that this is an issue for me, so I can work on it as I slowly level a new alt up.
My cat found this video for me
Oh, if only our cats was that lotal 🤣😊 I'd train them for this purpose definately, haha
I've always rebound movement to esdf since my quakeworld team fortress days 20 years ago. I did it partly for access to more keys, but mostly because as a touch typist it's where my hand naturally wants to be.
the corsair scimitar's [1] button is so close to the desk, I cannot push it without pushing another button. I've always used a razer naga since the very first version and I LOVE it. I always get the new version when its released. Currently using the pro. It's wireless with a dock for quick charging. I FKING LOVE IT!!!!
My set-up: Q,E,R,F,2 main rotation
Q builder + shift defensive CD
E: spender + shift offensive CD
F: proc spell that you need to cast fast + shift - spell that triggers it
R/shift+R: AoE spells
C interrupt, + shift CC
G stun + shift purge/dispell/spellsteal
X slow fall, glider
Z shield
T taunt or some ranged spell
1 slow
2 big dmg spell on CD
3 borrowed spell in expansion - HoA,...
4 big dmg spell on CD
5 pets/adds
caps lock: heal
Mouse buttons - mount, autorun, blink etc.
For the fear of never having a mouse again that fits my hand, like my Logitech G600 - I even bought 3 more in stock cause they are not made anymore xD
Why not use capslock too?
Using ESDF instead of WASD has made a huge difference in the comfort of playing and the number of keybinds I can reach with my left hand. Took a few days to get used to but I don't know if I could go back
Listen fam I get aotc and ksm no problem while clicking all my spells. It's fine if you master it. BUT!!! You can do even better by using keybinds. I switched this expansion after 13 years of clicking. It's always going to be better in the long run if you just learn keybinds. An MMO mouse is awesome if you lack dexterity in your left hand.
My muscles are stupid! They can't remember anything!
I'm a mmo NPC I've been playing for years off and on and I am BIG on clicking but I have never done raids or anything past dungeons with players so clicking was always something I did but i wanna get better at wow so I'm gonna HOPE I can get past this phase its really hard getting out of clicking
I came back to wow and keybinded my way to 60 then I started playing with friends of friends, they hate my razer Huntsman clicky clicky keys coming over coms.....I’m now a mouse clicker.
I disagree. Not everything needs to be keybound. Mainly non-combat abilities.
I keep those on Opie wheel.
ESDF is the only way I play MMOs, so many keybind options without cramping your hand into the left side of the keyboard.
Get an MMO mouse with 10-12 buttons on the side. Keep your left hand on your movement keys. With your thumb and pinky you should have access to SHIFT, CTRL,ALT, SHIFT+ALT, & CTRL+ALT pretty easily. That gives you up to a maximum of 60- 72 keybinds without ever having to move your left hand off WASD for movement and you can still move with the mouse. Once you master this it really opens up movement and control of your character.
I found it helpful to have my actual buttons on screen oriented in the same way as the side of the MMO mouse when learning this setup. good luck.
I really disliked WoW until I got a MMO mouse. The game is unplayable for me without it. There are just too many abilities that require mapping and a ton of movement is required in raids compared to the MMO I came from (EQ2). Having a MMO mouse lets me more easily execute my rotation and keeps my left hand free to move to do raid mechanics.
How does anyone remember 60-72 keybinds? I can't even remember what day it is.
@@mydogeatspuke practice. It eventually becomes automatic.
@@Collins311 I will never believe that anyone with enough practice can reliably recall 60-72 different binds 😁
and get an MMO mouse with 12 buttons.... it will change your life lol (32 new button combos when using modifiers)
The Logitech g600 is amazing, could not recommend that mouse enough. It has a 3rd click on the far right that acts as a shift click to give all your mouse buttons a second function while you are holding it down. I can bind 24 abilities to my mouse
If we have not a big hand, it’s still comfortable ? Because I hesitate to buy it ^^
Rez is on F forme, it’s how i pay respect :)
My brain exploded with the knuckle ctrl tip. Long time sc2 player first time wow player.
I've found that adding Caps Lock as a modifier works nicely too. I actually rebound Alt to the Caps Lock key for this.
Caps lock is really nice for push to talk in discord for raids. Only downside is when you chat you end up yelling at people a lot.
@@zwebzz9685 That's why I swap the Alt and Caps Lock bindings :)
@Elle Tee I have a Corsair keyboard and just use their iCue software to flip them around.
this. nobody needs caps lock, remap it to ctrl or whatever.
Keybinding is HUGE. Preach got the message out 8 years ago, Im glad you bring it up and teach as you do, loads of people will benefit from this.
I've found 12345QERTFC and shift variations of these being extremely easy to press if youve got less mouse button choices. All my DoT classes have main dots Q/E. All classes interrupt/dispel on 1. R/F is main stuff, Frost Strike/Oblit, Wrath/Starfire, Fireball/Pyroblast etc. Makes classes feel a little similar, but makes multiclassing stuff super easy.
I'm fine clicking. It's easier and less complicated.
My mouse has 8 click options and then I shift or control. This way using mouse over to cast so I never hit any key’s other than moving, shift and control
Using keybinds are very uncomfortable I tried it for a month and I found it made my wrist always sore so I just stop using it.
Just get a game pad, it’s so much easier. I couldn’t do a keyboard for the longest time. And I have an mmo mouse and it’s great!
I always put a powerful spell on "F" as a kind of "F- you" to my enemies, but "pay F for respects" works too
Honestly I can’t keybind the numbers because I keep Misclicking them unless I look
What's the name of that UI you're using in this video?
"in my opinion that's what defines mmo combat, having a large toolkit of rotational and situational abilities..."
*stares in elder scrolls online*
LMAOO this
Buy yourself an orbweaver ;) UNLIMITED POTENTIAL
Plain and simple. If you don't have an MMO mouse you're probably bad.
How the fuck do people press F and G??????? It literally hurts my hand
Shouldn't need to do all this extra shit just to play a game competently
Long term member of clickers anonymous. 🤦
Here I go! Ty 👍👍
Trust me guy , don't ever set alt + F4 , it's not good when you playing WOW
I'm way too casual for custom keybinds. clicker for life.
f to pay respects lmao
Gread video.
Can you do a video showing your used addons and settings? :)
I use Vuhdo and I'm impressed by the information your interface puts out (Monk stagger value for example)
I'll be making a ui vid closer to shadowlands. The monk stagger is a weakaura you can find ehre: wago.io/LvAI6Dikh
One thing I like to do with a 12-button mouse is make sure 2 of those buttons are set to A and D keypresses respectively. Being able to completely control your movement with either hand really frees up the amount of binds that you can use on the move.
But... You can just hold left and right click to move with mouse? Or is the camera an issue then?
It's unfortunate that you didn't demonstrate how to bind abilities to keys.
imagine unbinding backpedal and playing tank
Tnx for massive headache you actually give me
Iam a clicker and i reck shit ton od ppl that got binds... So shit true
OMG, i might be a nooblet, but have been a clicker since day 1 :(
Me too!
Second
fourth?
This all is complicated af. I have 1-6 and q-y. Everything else I click. The only thing I haven’t figured out is how to heal someone without targeting them. I just wanna be able to hover over their name and hit 1 while still targeting enemy to kick his casts. It seems the only way to do this is by doing macros. But I don’t use macros either. Too complicated
My party frame addon vuhdo handles it, I know a lot of people use clique its a fair bit simpler.
Dont get a corsair, it breaks and the layer on it peels easily
I don't understand how u use the mmo mouse but ur bars don't visually reflect the mouse layout 😂 I have my bars set up 3x4 haha
cuz u never look at them
Hey so I just start playing wow classic
Thats a hell of a lot of work. hard pass.
Thanks, but I actually hate key binds how the hell do I get rid of this shit how do I delete my mey binds
myslot
How I was taught, and this may work for others as well:
I am using a normal keyboard, and a Logitech G502 mouse. I main Monk.
I have three main hotbars. The main is R-Q, F-A, V-Z. The second is R-Ctrl (mapped to DPS Shift button) + R-Q, F-A, V-Z. The third is 1-6, and R-Ctrl + 1-6. The two buttons on the top of my mouse, next to the left button, are mapped to 1 and 2, which is for movement abilities. The default back button on the mouse is mapped to autorun toggle. The default forward button now pulls up Opie. I keep two extra hotbars in the corner of my screen for things I just don't need to use often, and are not mapped: revives, Zen Pilgramage, food, gliders, profession skills.
I generally reserve R-Q for attacks or main abilities for the spec. F-A for stuns, overflow abilities. V-Z for self heals and cleansers. Ctrl V-Z for mitigators. The numbers bar is reserved for, in this order: Movement, long drink buffs (Mana Tea), mounts, revives.
Windwalker Mobk bringing my comfortable keybinds to its knees. ALT is the only modifier I can use comfortably, I wish I could use CTRL too.
one note about the corsair mmo mouse, the 1 and 4 keys are practically on the mat i have big hands and find i end up lifting the mouse to press it which is obviously NOT ideal! Im only using it because SOMEBODY spilled beer on my razer naga which i LOVED
I have trouble hitting F4 and F5. Should I wake up 30 minutes each morning before playing WOW and do finger stretches? I've seen M+ guys mash that f5 key like nothing. I feel so weak.
The first step is to backpedal. The next step is to remove backpedal from your binds. The ultimate step is to put backpedal back in your keybindings (and find other binds for those abilities you bound to S), and use it like a pro only whenever you have to. If you don't believe me, try moving out of the cage thing whatever it's called from horrific visions while channeling fists of fury AND dealing damage with it, without backpedaling.
what activities would you suggest doing to get used to the new keybinds? I'm switching from numpad to left hand so I can actually have my hand on the mouse