I'm really glad I finally found this video. I was given a steam engine from my dad and uncle but had no idea what it was. I am glad to say that I can now honestly say I am the caretaker of a very well made stuart single Victoria. I ran it on compressed air yesterday at work for the first time after 2-3 years of shelf life. Your videos have answered many of my questions and helped to get me the far. Thank you for your time and dedication and passion for the hobby. I'll finish by saying I have been fortunate to have had a 25 plus year career the auto collision repair field and can fix almost anything but this steam engine and thinking about how to make a real boiler, I feel like I'm in preschool. Again thanks for the vids and I found them useful.
Hi Keith. I really appreciate your videos as I'm now part of a model society in Crawley at Goffs park. I've had small mamods in the past. Trouble with the society is every member but one who had steam knowledge has sadly passed. So your videos really are teaching me and many others knowledge that would be lost. Thanks Keith
Hi Keith. I am long time listener first time caller.. having recently spent lots of my cash on a lathe and mill to start model making and completed my first stuart 10v engine I would like to take the time to thank you for your videos. I have watched al of them many times and treated yours and other similar videos as my education on the subject. I am very much looking forward to your upcoming Victoria build you mention. I think I may buy one myself to build whilst following you. I will be sure to update you. many thanks and be sure to have a good new year. many many thanks, nick.
I purchased a half built Stuart Beam Engine a few years ago. The base and all the bearings had been machined, and the cylinder. But, the cylinder was about the only piece that had been done almost correctly, and even that has one or two issues that are going to grate on me. Over the time since I’ve bought it, I’ve gradually been correcting what was done badly and remaking bits that are not done well at all. It’s a case of buyer beware. If you’re prepared to fix muck ups and make new parts, then if you can get the engine/castings for a good price, go for it! But if you are not, then maybe best start from scratch with new castings or an engine that you know the previous owner of. Having said all that, Keith, I’ll give you a hundred for that if you throw in the spare cylinder casting! And I’ll even do a blog of the doing up for you... and I’ll pay the shipping to Australia! Love your videos! I even manage to stay awake while you’re painting! Hugh.
Greg Marchegiani Lotus boss Colin Chapman called these Mexican speed wrenches and said the only thing worse than a mechanic with one is a mechanic with two.
My big argument against buying a model stationary steam engine is that it is more fun and more educational to make a model. Making a model from a kit or scratch-built provides an excellent learning experience and at least for me is fun. I became interested in Model Engineering in 1963 and my first model was a machined Stuart 10V which for a 13 yr old was a good learning experience. Over the years I have learned about all phases of building a model and am still learning.
Great video ! That series sounds like a good buy . My twin Victoria sits above my bench it certainly took a lot of building ! That engine you payed 100 pounds for should be put on a base and labelled "how not to build a steam engine".
Yippiii! Thanks! I am looking forward to se the build serie. Just got my twin Victoria castings from Stuart. We shall se if I have "taken water above my head" as we express it in Sweden when we take on more job than we can handle. Perhaps I should do an follow up serie on TH-cam. "Building the Victoria Twin after Keith:s instructions". My problem with that is that I have never published anything serious, good quality before. But having a lot of paint, a number of Bahco spanners, a lathe and small milling machine I might give it a go. :-))
Time for a noob question again :D Do you happen to know what the advantage of having the ports done in the casting is, instead of being machined in afterwards? It just seems like a pointlessly complex thing to make a mould for when it's something that should be doable with a few holes (but then again, I have little clue about casting or the cost factors involved). Or is it simply not ideal when the steam would enter the cylinder at the very end (which would be the easiest way to do it when using machining)?
Drilling ports can go spectacularly wrong at times, plus apart from the volume generally being larger for more efficient inlet and exhaust of the steam with cored in ports, it's more like full size practice to have the ports as part of the casting. . .
Right, thanks. Would be really interesting to see such a mould being made and used. Can't imagine how this fragile sand structure for the ports would hold up, but I am sure there is a trick that makes it easy, as always ;)
Going by the old adage that image is everything what is a good color to paint these in so that viewers will think you have done a good job? I was thinking of the old industrial light green, the same color as our old '52 Chevrolet.
5:52 the man who built it probably had the general knowledge many gasoline engine performance seekers have about valves and air intakes/exhausts. More flow=more air for combustion, less restrictions, more combustion , more power. Many performance seekers will take the heads, valves, air intakes and modify them to give thier car more power. So someone with this mindset probably had the same idea. I mean the valves do "seem" to have a lot of restrictions. Lots of 90 degree bends for steam to snake through.
hi keith, i'm in golcar, hudds, not a model engineer, but after a decent 3.5 or 5" gauge loco to run without buying a dog, have you anything or know of anyone selling some thing? i am member at bhmes, had a 5" kingscale 14xx but sent it back!!! have some cash, ash
Not really, it's not that much of a problem clearing out the casting sand and even drilling the steam ways isn't that difficult with a bit of practice ....
I wonder when this engine was assembled? It seems hard to believe, given all the great material that's available on youtube about the details of putting a model steam engine together correctly...that this could have happened recently. It couldn't run in this condition; wow.
*disclaimer, I'm not a model engineer, I build and repair drones, and have several diy 3d printers* The average intelligence level of people who take on a project like this is either very high, or very low. They take one of two mindsets "I don't need none of them instruction, it's just a bunch of blabbering, I already saw a video of this running", or they spend hours on youtube, in books, and tinkering before they jump into the project. I'd imagine most of Keiths viewers fall into the latter, but the former, unfortunately, tend to dominate hobbies in general. BTW Keith, thank you for many hours of entertaining, well made, and highly educational videos.
NO Never buy one !!!!! I did and it doesn't end now I have lathe and learning to make parts but there's always something else you seem to need, and don't get me started on tap sizes and thread. Oh God
I'm really glad I finally found this video. I was given a steam engine from my dad and uncle but had no idea what it was. I am glad to say that I can now honestly say I am the caretaker of a very well made stuart single Victoria. I ran it on compressed air yesterday at work for the first time after 2-3 years of shelf life. Your videos have answered many of my questions and helped to get me the far. Thank you for your time and dedication and passion for the hobby. I'll finish by saying I have been fortunate to have had a 25 plus year career the auto collision repair field and can fix almost anything but this steam engine and thinking about how to make a real boiler, I feel like I'm in preschool. Again thanks for the vids and I found them useful.
Hi Keith. I really appreciate your videos as I'm now part of a model society in Crawley at Goffs park. I've had small mamods in the past. Trouble with the society is every member but one who had steam knowledge has sadly passed. So your videos really are teaching me and many others knowledge that would be lost. Thanks Keith
Hi Keith. I am long time listener first time caller.. having recently spent lots of my cash on a lathe and mill to start model making and completed my first stuart 10v engine I would like to take the time to thank you for your videos. I have watched al of them many times and treated yours and other similar videos as my education on the subject. I am very much looking forward to your upcoming Victoria build you mention. I think I may buy one myself to build whilst following you. I will be sure to update you. many thanks and be sure to have a good new year. many many thanks, nick.
Your recitation of steam engine descriptions on the auction site is SPOT ON! I had to laugh. Thanks!
I purchased a half built Stuart Beam Engine a few years ago. The base and all the bearings had been machined, and the cylinder. But, the cylinder was about the only piece that had been done almost correctly, and even that has one or two issues that are going to grate on me. Over the time since I’ve bought it, I’ve gradually been correcting what was done badly and remaking bits that are not done well at all.
It’s a case of buyer beware. If you’re prepared to fix muck ups and make new parts, then if you can get the engine/castings for a good price, go for it! But if you are not, then maybe best start from scratch with new castings or an engine that you know the previous owner of.
Having said all that, Keith, I’ll give you a hundred for that if you throw in the spare cylinder casting! And I’ll even do a blog of the doing up for you... and I’ll pay the shipping to Australia!
Love your videos! I even manage to stay awake while you’re painting!
Hugh.
You stubbornly insist on using adjustable spanners, so I found a store where I am finally going to buy a set of Bahco spanners myself. Happy 2017!
Greg Marchegiani Lotus boss Colin Chapman called these Mexican speed wrenches and said the only thing worse than a mechanic with one is a mechanic with two.
My big argument against buying a model stationary steam engine is that it is more fun and more educational to make a model. Making a model from a kit or scratch-built provides an excellent learning experience and at least for me is fun. I became interested in Model Engineering in 1963 and my first model was a machined Stuart 10V which for a 13 yr old was a good learning experience. Over the years I have learned about all phases of building a model and am still learning.
thankyou for sharing this video. i now see online sale models in a different light. and i do see a lot of mamond green
I look forward to buying the video! as a complete muppet when it comes to engineering it sounds like the exact thing I need
Great video ! That series sounds like a good buy . My twin Victoria sits above my bench it certainly took a lot of building ! That engine you payed 100 pounds for should be put on a base and labelled "how not to build a steam engine".
it's easily worth £100.00 for the castings that are machined correctly ..... I have plans for it :-)))
Yippiii! Thanks! I am looking forward to se the build serie. Just got my twin Victoria castings from Stuart. We shall se if I have "taken water above my head" as we express it in Sweden when we take on more job than we can handle. Perhaps I should do an follow up serie on TH-cam. "Building the Victoria Twin after Keith:s instructions". My problem with that is that I have never published anything serious, good quality before. But having a lot of paint, a number of Bahco spanners, a lathe and small milling machine I might give it a go. :-))
This brings up the question what building an engine like that would cost, not counting the subscription or dvd of course.
Time for a noob question again :D
Do you happen to know what the advantage of having the ports done in the casting is, instead of being machined in afterwards? It just seems like a pointlessly complex thing to make a mould for when it's something that should be doable with a few holes (but then again, I have little clue about casting or the cost factors involved). Or is it simply not ideal when the steam would enter the cylinder at the very end (which would be the easiest way to do it when using machining)?
Drilling ports can go spectacularly wrong at times, plus apart from the volume generally being larger for more efficient inlet and exhaust of the steam with cored in ports, it's more like full size practice to have the ports as part of the casting. . .
Right, thanks. Would be really interesting to see such a mould being made and used. Can't imagine how this fragile sand structure for the ports would hold up, but I am sure there is a trick that makes it easy, as always ;)
Going by the old adage that image is everything what is a good color to paint these in so that viewers will think you have done a good job? I was thinking of the old industrial light green, the same color as our old '52 Chevrolet.
“Barn find” LOL!!! That one drives me nuts.
Oh my, hit the button too soon. Great videos! Gracias from a South Texas Ranch.
JB weld.....hahahaha. I can see this model steam engine hobby has a wide range of skill sets.
Thanks for sharing Keith! Very instructive.
Cheers.
Oh, I just noticed the Alfa Laval box there, Some of my phase change units have Alfa Laval heat exchangers in them.
5:52 the man who built it probably had the general knowledge many gasoline engine performance seekers have about valves and air intakes/exhausts. More flow=more air for combustion, less restrictions, more combustion , more power. Many performance seekers will take the heads, valves, air intakes and modify them to give thier car more power. So someone with this mindset probably had the same idea. I mean the valves do "seem" to have a lot of restrictions. Lots of 90 degree bends for steam to snake through.
Hi, i'm from Chile, i would like to know how did you made the cylinder (cylinder-Valve Body) by metal casting.
Regards!
I don't actually make the castings - they are commercially available items.
I would be interested in buying this engine to make it en again, here coulant contact you for info about? ( of you still have it)
hi keith, i'm in golcar, hudds, not a model engineer, but after a decent 3.5 or 5" gauge loco to run without buying a dog, have you anything or know of anyone selling some thing? i am member at bhmes, had a 5" kingscale 14xx but sent it back!!! have some cash, ash
I don't get offered Locomotives very often, best to try around the local Model Engineering clubs .... WRSLS ?
Thank you.,..... Jay Shree Mataji
It seems that cast ports always have problems and drilling the ports can go horribly wrong. Is there a better way?
Not really, it's not that much of a problem clearing out the casting sand and even drilling the steam ways isn't that difficult with a bit of practice ....
Just a thought buying cheap ultrasonic cleaner and the cast sand will be out in seconds
The new series sounds great.
Count me in for DVDs and subscription would love to build this engine let us know when starts cheers Gra
Drilling those 2 holes that end up at the cylinder ends can be a nightmare if they are not cast in!
When will the video build start ?
If you mean the "How to Build a Model Steam Engine" series - as soon as I get some spare time . . . . . .
Keith Appleton how do I get the instuction video on the Victoria type engine ?
region. Steambert
can someone direct me to a good quality steam engine that can feasible match a 5 horsepower internal combustion motor in output
so, what about JENSENS?
"And I hope you found it u..."
Well I enjoy your videos very much so, so I think Ill buy your dvd
I could identify several faults with this engine right from the first few seconds and I'm appaled.. Quite the mess to sort out indeed.
Yeah I thought that colours looked like a mamod but this engine looks way too complicated for mamod
6:24, "oh you can see the piston, hang on... Are you meant to see the piston? How will it get a full stroke? Why can I see that piston?!"
He he. With my limited knowledge it’s very clear the cylinder is made wrong. Wow.
Semi diesel and steam is very similar 🧐
I wonder when this engine was assembled? It seems hard to believe, given all the great material that's available on youtube about the details of putting a model steam engine together correctly...that this could have happened recently. It couldn't run in this condition; wow.
*disclaimer, I'm not a model engineer, I build and repair drones, and have several diy 3d printers*
The average intelligence level of people who take on a project like this is either very high, or very low. They take one of two mindsets "I don't need none of them instruction, it's just a bunch of blabbering, I already saw a video of this running", or they spend hours on youtube, in books, and tinkering before they jump into the project.
I'd imagine most of Keiths viewers fall into the latter, but the former, unfortunately, tend to dominate hobbies in general.
BTW Keith, thank you for many hours of entertaining, well made, and highly educational videos.
that sad little engine i feel so bad for it.
NO Never buy one !!!!! I did and it doesn't end now I have lathe and learning to make parts but there's always something else you seem to need, and don't get me started on tap sizes and thread. Oh God
It's just bad 🤣