[Source 1] Hammer Tutorial V2 Series #7 "Vertex Tool, Primitive Prefab Creation"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ค. 2024
- Mistake at 7:15: The invalid brush is CONCAVE. Source only does CONVEX shapes.
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In this tutorial we explore the Vertex tool along with Prefab primitives. We use these to create a small arch... thing...
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Is it just me or did your voice deepen between videos in the playlist?
right? lol
Apples Captor just got irritated too xD
Apples Captor I noticed that too! XD
I thought it was someone else, but he was sick... remember? lol
@@bctdeath ooh he's sick, i see
Much more professional than other hammer tutorials. Made it easy to focus. Well made, and thanks!
Shift + Arrow key just blew my mind.
Last video hey talked about it
lol same
Mind also blown
among us
Best Hammer Tutorial I could find so far. You're really helping me out!
Some useful shortcut keys in here that even after 4 years of mapping i still did not know. This series really cover a lot
I've been working in hammer for fun for years and I'm still learning things from this :) Great stuff!
i passed out on this yesterday, couldnt sleep , was thinking about hammer++ and needed somebackground noise, good night smth xD
I've enjoyed watching these reboots of the original tutorials, even though I've had over 1000 hours with CSS and Tf2 there are many techniques to mapping I never knew. This installment actually taught me a lot about the vertex tool which I had previously neglected until I took an interest in surf maps for Tf2. I mostly can't wait until later optimization techniques involving area portals and such, since I never fully understood those.
the best available hammer tutorials, thanks for making these.
I've returned to this video for the 10th time or so because I always forget the shortcuts. I love this
A properly made tutorial, wtf... Nice! A rare thing.
Wow... this tutorial taught me alot! ty so much
have been mapping since 2008, yet i still feel like uneducated about source sdk and it's tricks to make mapping alot faster. Good tutorial
this is definitely the best. genius
I love your tutorials
your tutes are awesome thanks
CTRL+W for ignore groups works as well when it comes to selecting several func_detail objects.
Great tutorial as always.
I found this tutorial very informative.
Thanks a lot for explaining how to make holes. I never understood how to make those things, they always looked very bad when i made them
Thank goodness i've subscribe to this channel! verry good tutorials and tips thank you so much!
Yey! I was the one who asked about cutting circular holes. Thanks1
CTRL+F, that'll save me a lot of brush work on multiple things.
Great tutorial, everything is explained quite clearly and informatively.
One quick question though, is it possible for certain vertex manipulations to cause graphical corruption in the 3D view of Hammer? I'm using the L4D1 Authoring Tools version of Hammer on Windows 7, and at very rare moments, the 3D view will briefly change into lots of colorful surfaces and edges in the same places where my brushes were. Reloading Hammer seems to fix the issue for awhile, but it still comes up.
The pink and black textures mean missing texture. You need to make sure that the textures you used on the pink & black surfaces are correctly installed into TF2
very gud vid, helped a lot
the map you made looks like an hl2 beta map
(this is a compliment)
Is it more efficient to just use a single brush for an arch and create more vertices with ctrl+f? I know hammer has a limit on brush faces/sides so it would take out the sides that are touching each other, unless sides that touch other sides don't count towards the limit.
Any idea why my shift arrow key moves the spike 1 px away from the original?
You have to select the yellow dots first, then press CTRL+F.
Please help, whenever I use the vertex tool to make a hole it only grabs one brush from the arch rather then the entire arch.
Love the vid
Can I add the Portal 1 fgd into hammer and get the Portal 1 entities, or does this only work in Portal 2?
Whenever i split faces i get "texture axis perpendicular to face" compile error I cant find a way to fix it. Do you know why this is?
Also great tutorial!
I got a small request, could you in your lightning/advanced lightning tutorial talk about making night maps?
Could've made the the arches cylindrical as well. Nice vid, all in all. ^^
Why do you texture the cilinder first with the texture tool on the right side and then again with the texutre tool? at 1:38
loving the vids btw ! :)
Unless you're cutting a block brush with a block brush (which seems to be best thing it's good at without messing things up), it's better to use a manual method like many others suggested.
I'd recommend puuting the shortcuts that you used in an episode in the description, so people can look it up later without going through the whole video.
one little question how do you put the vertices on lanes without dots like in 16:50 sorry if you said this.
hi , you can make a tut for skybox ? (the sky texture , vtf commands and vmt options) i wana make a custom skybox and i can't find any information.
Not sure if you've mentioned it in any of the previous tutorials but you said "You should never use the carving tool", could you shortly explain why?
Awesome tutorial by the way really informative and well-made! Thanks!
the carving tool cannot define which brushes to carve and which not without hiding them and leaves rather inoptimal geometry.
hey whats the command to flip a object?
How do you remember all of this stuff?
what's send to maya do?
Where can I get the clean, base VMF? The one in Dropbox is the finished product.
***** The one trouble I'm having with that is the diving board. I can't remove it, but I'd like to have a clean pyramid so I can have a go at making the splits/convex shape. It's not *massively* important but it'd be nice if I could clean that away.
McJobless Something you can do is:
Select the func_detail
Press Ctrl+Shift+W
Unselect the brush you want to edit/delete
Press Ctrl+T
Is it ok to use the vertex tool instead of the clipping tool in certain situations?
Of course!
@@TopHATTwaffle Oh thanks, that's great. I thought the vertex could be more consuming than just clipping a piece out since it's deforming the brush, so I was afraid to use it all the time
At 7:51 and some other momments you use the keyboard to move the selected Vertex, HOW do you do that?? I've tried the arrow keys, almost all keys on the keyboard, Alt, Shift, Control together with arrows and other keys.... nothing! Can anyone help me with that please? Nice tutorial by the way
+Tyler Durden Tools, Options, 2D views, Arrow Keys Nudge.
Thank you very much Mr. TopHattWaffle!! =D
i ussually use yools > carve. to make holes, is it better to use your method?
yes, because cut is more precise
carve can cause the level to render poorly as well sometimes
HELP! My prefab list is empty... I've looked through every folder, can't find whatever vmf it is that it needs. Would really love to be able to make arches and pillars, etc, but all I have is a set of greyed-out combo boxes!
Nevermind, just made myself feel like a complete moron. I was trying to turn an already created brush into an arch. I've figured it out now.
Why we doing func_detail?
whats intro song
3:21, you didn't have to do any of that. You just drag the top and bottom corners on the right side and it will automatically line up if you made your grid a little smaller.
I do not see the building we made or ledge after compiling the level
Seems the ledge brush was stopping it from compiling the level, I did it wrong somehow. I will redo it again
He said 'I'm just gonna verify this. Just gonna verify this.'
Man how long have you been working with source sdk hammer?
its not source sdk, just hammer
the link is down
How do you make walls at a 45 degree angle, without them intersecting adjacent walls in weird ways?
***** Okay... You know how when you have two walls meeting at a right angle, you clip them each at a 45 degree angle so they mesh.
If I have two walls meeting at a 135 degree angle, I would want to clip each wall at 22.5 degrees so they match.
But I can't because 22.5 degrees would be working with coordinates that are off grid.
Do you have any suggestions?
+Mathew Alden that sounds like a fucking math problem, the way you described it. But i think the only solution would be to change the angle of the walls because having to clip them at the angle you are describing would be off the grid.
@@MathewAlden Late reply, but you don't need the touching brush sides to be the same angle as each other. For 90 degree corners, I usually don't bother clipping diagonally, and instead just line up the end of one to the side of the other (lazy, I know, but it reduces brush count sometimes). For a 135 degree corner, I make both ends touch, but only one of them is clipped diagonally.
@@SirYodaJedi If you only clip one of them on a 135 degree corner, then things won't line up correctly; either one wall would need to be thinner, or there would be a little gap, or the two brushes would be intersecting each other.
Although, it's probably not a problem if two brushes intersect. That wouldn't cause a problem for Hammer, would it?
@@MathewAlden I didn't think about the differing thickness; I suppose that could be an issue. After 4 attempts, though, I think I figured out a method to maintain thickness without overlapping brushes or using split walls (I don't beleive there is any issue with overlapping brushes as long as the brush faces aren't coplanar, though). What I came up with is to use a 6-sided brush for the diagonal brush. TH-cam won't let me post a link to the map source file here, but I have on my GitHub (same name as YT) in the Yuis-Map-Files repo at Source_1/_Agnostic/135_degree_wall.vmf.
Edit: actually, figured out a way to do it without extra faces; just needed to move some verts; the latest version should now have a box with that method.
Ctrl L and Ctrl I... jesus christ I wish I knew about those hotkeys earlier, coulda saved me hours of accumulated time flipping and rotating crap around
"We've also not destroyed our arch when we used the vertex mahtool to do after the though editing."
why are there no white squars
this one with the spike thingy was kind of disturbing. :S
That isn't a circle, it's just a hexadecagon. Do later videos show how to cut out an actual circle?
NoriMori There is no possible way to cut out an actual circle in Source, as it is limited. Unless you want to be mad and clip it so much that it looks perfect.
***** Ahhh, I feared that might be the case. :( That seems like a rather glaring limitation! O_o Wow, I even just checked the singing vortigaunt pipe, and true enough, it's not actually a circle! Amazing that I never noticed this!
Does this apply to entities and textures as well? Is it impossible to create a circular plate, or a building entity with a circular window texture? Or does it only apply to brushes? The eyes on Aperture Science turrets seem to be real circles, and the personality cores are spheres, and have circular eyes… So I assume that's different?
NoriMori Models and brushes are different things so yes, it is different. It is impossible to create a circular plate without making VVIS fucked up and thus making everything laggy. Also, I kinda lied that there is *absolutely* no possible way of making perfect spheres. You can do this with Displacements, but that'll really make your map size larger. As about textures, those are simply image files, just converted to work with Source. Props can actuakky make an illusion of a perfect circle with verticles and polygons, but I'm not a modeller. If you want to make a cylinder that actually looks decent enough to be perfect, you can use 12 faces, as show on the video. Don't forget to make it a func_detail however, so VVIS doesn't cut a visleaf when your map is compiling.
***** Hmm, interesting.
+TheYagich It's ok, Norimori just wants to be a particular troll.
The Carve tool can mess up levels it's not recomended, use his method
You are mixing up 'convex' and 'concave'. The solids in hammer must be convex. They cannot be concave. Memory hint - 'cave' part can help remember which is which.
A bit odd to not immediately see any comment pointing that out.
At what time was the mistake made? I'll add an annotation.
Found it around 7:15. I've added the correction to the description as Annotations don't work any more. Thanks for finding the mistake! I guess that's what I get for recording videos late at night when I should be sleeping.
lol i was confused by what waffle said too.
why this comment is at the bottom?
should pin this on top.
AWWWW YISS
2019, and valve still hasn't fixed that damn bug...
vertex tool, click on shape, then misclick some other area, then you can't click on shape again, unless you restart the entire god damn fucking program. been doing this for the past 5 fucking years.
around 10:30 it sounds like f**k detail.
LOX
Voice changer? I can hear different voice, lol.