2022 Norco Sight VLT: More Power, Baby | First Look & Ride
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- Norco have come out with three new e-bikes with very different intentions. Seb Stott checks out the middle child, the Sight VLT. For the full review, click here: pinkbike.link/...
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It actually looks good. Norco on a different level
I have a sight vlt 2020, I wish I had more travel bottomed out a number of times. Completely agree who cares about climbing efficiency on an ebike.
We might as well add a dual crown. Fuck it why not a throttle too ya know ;)
More travel ain't gonna make you not bottom out. Try some volume reducers
@@CoderShare don’t get me started on a how much better an ebike would be if I don’t need to shift my weight to engage the motor.
Looks good! Interesting that this was still released this year. Good to see Norco 👍
I'm cool with more travel on an ebike, your point is well taken. My only issue with more travel is that I don't want that to equal a bigger and longer bike. I ride in very tight and technical areas. I need a quick and flick like bike
@regular guy….. if it was a mullet and it had shorter chain stays you could do that with a bigger big.
@@jaselikesbikes I bring this up because I own the Norco Sight vlt 2020 c2 bike and it's a beast. Very big bike that can take on big stuff but is tough to move around in the woods.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but according to the geo charts the Sight has a larger reach then the equivalent Range? Large range 475mm reach, large sight 485mm, and about 9mm in wheels base (range is longer).
So they are pretty similar. Think I’m going to go the range, go big or go home :)
I agree with you about the travel, to a point. However, for a heavier rider with a massive amount of travel… no matter how you set the bike up, you do lose the ability to be super poppy off smaller roots, ruts and anything you can jump off. One of the benefits of an ebike is that you can do ALL forms of riding from buzzing around a fairly flat xc loop, to smashing a DH trail. I just find some of the flatter riding less fun with super long travel and all of that weight shifting around. I found between 150mm rear and 160/170mm front end to be the ‘do-all’ sweet spot.
Thanks for the video! ✌️
Man in 10-15 years Ebikes are going to be insane
We’ll look back at these and laugh. I predict batteries will get smaller but with more power and range still
Seb is now with PB??? Was my fav presenter/journo on the 'other' site.
Splendid spring ! seems very flexible and comfortable for arms.
Still love my Norco Charger VLT
I really hope your channel content doesn’t change after being acquired! 😬
The presenters repeated criticism of the need for short travel emtbs is kinda bullshit, I would venture to say that there are a great many riders that will never see anything gnarlier than blue trails and for me personally There’s nothing the Sight VLT couldn’t handle.
I think 150mm travel makes sense on a lighter weight ebike like Levo SL or Orbea Rise. Makes for a more trail bike experience all around. For full fat, go full squish.
flippen good lookin bike
just hit 55 yrs old so time to help myself up hills, as my naturally ability to keep my level of power fitness unfortunately declines….went with the Sight to try and keep the feel of my pedal bike …a SC Bronson…looking forward to a different outlook on riding….
After getting my levo sl, I definitely see the advantage of shorter chainstays. After looking at geo on new sight, wouldn't even consider buying one
Love my sl ! Have 1100 miles on mine so far , with no problems
160 or 170mm of travel on an eMTB is perfekt for me on every trail. I also don't see the point of 3 different travel sizes.
Furthermore it seems that Norco was inspired by Specialized for the battery mounting.
Pretty cool looking bike 😎
There is a new ebike Magicycle seems get great specs, 750W, 52V battery, torque 86Nm, presale price only at $1099. lookd forward to your review. so far only see one youtuber reviewed the specs. lots of people are expecting.
Would be nice to have a 27.5 version, for tighter technical stuff. And I agree, if you have a battery, go with more travel.
100%. Very sad not to see another 27.5 range.
2 years later and I wish I had of got a Norco with the 900wh battery
Have a Norco range VLT 900wh coming in. Can’t friggin wait!!
YEW! What a wicked "range" of new emtb from Norco. We can't wait to see these drop in OZ at the end of the year.
I reckon we won’t get them till feb/March
A 56 pound carbon bike? Yeesh!
i tested the VLT with the 900 battery a couple days ago. as seb stated it felt super heavy. also a price tag of almost USD 10k is just crazy.
MO POWER BABY!!!
It’s a 9.8k ebike with alloy chainstays??
I agree with you, you may as well have more. Great look, like 2 water bottles and the bigger battery but it is pretty meaty.
I agree motor more travel, but sometimes wouldn’t you be over biked? And looking at the 3 models something i can argue is that each model have different geo which is important
I agree. My as well have more travel with an emtb. Same weight with more traction.
Im finding i like the seat angle not as steep as current steep seat angles. I like the steep sa on my enduro bike to winch it up a hill with the seat jacked to full extension. On my emtb i ride with the seat a couple inches lower a lot of the time and you can move the bike around better when seated when the sa isnt so steep. Super steep climbs i have the seat all the way down , butt over the rear wheel for traction and elbows very bent to keep the front down. You need this position and you dont need full leg extension with boost. With the seat lowered and a super steep SA the cockpit is super cramped. Slacker SA gives more room to move.
Emtb need min 10mm more travel and a couple gedree slacker seat angle
At this time, I don't have enough experience on e-bikes to say for sure, although right now I lean towards wanting more travel.
Nice review with good balance. I think I agree; my opinion is basically that for the majority of people eBikers should only replace your uplift and DH bike, so short travel options don't really make sense unless they are for disabled or older riders.
I live in an area where they are building a massive mtb park (170 kms )
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And I’m thinking of getting one so I can ride further in a 2 or 3 hour window
gonna buy one
I can see the 3 travel option`s definitely. From my every day work at a Bike store I recognized that a lot of people buy full suspension e bikes because they are comfortable and dynamic. We do have a lot of customers who do not ride trails but more street and forest roads with gravel. So more suspension isn`t needed. The strange thing is that these specific group of customers is much bigger than the ones who really ride trails... We even hook up bikes like these with fu*kin fenders, light and rear racks.
Maybe NORCO wants get get them as well, to spend their money, not only the "real" MTB people.
I would agree, it takes quite a bit of dedication to ride gnarly, fast, playful, IE experienced trails. If you want to putter around and see the sights instead of tackling the black and double black, why get that extra suspension? Also, flow trails lend themselves better to the faster ramp up of shorter travel bikes. I myself only have chunky black and double black near me, and as a new rider wish I had bought more than 150mm as I tend to bottom out on the nasty rocks we have. It's enough that when I shuttle ride with my friends, they bring their DH rigs, but I alas will not have too many bikes.
Not everyone lives in the mountains ! There are lots of states that are completely flat and long travel is not necessary to ride the trails there
I have this exact bike I love it so much just wish I had a little more travel I’d love to have the range vlt I ride pretty aggressive trails and really ride the sight super hard she handles it all but would love to try a range
Same feeling, i don't get the point of short travel e-bikes. If you got weight and you got a motor to help climb... why not have travel ?? It's never going to be super nimble anyway.
An e-bike with a shorter suspension travel is going to be more efficient. It will have less suspension bopping. It will go longer and higher.
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I had a stroke reading that
This talk of having multiple batteries to 'change' over. The old VLT was a HORRIBLE poorly engineered experience to change battery, you had to drop the motor and wiggle the battery out which wedged in poorly engineered weld seams (at least in my experience), then putting it back took twice as long as there were no inner cable routing or stays.
This new model appears a little different, the moto appears to be seated higher with a pull tab for the battery??
New levo opinion??? Does it blow away Gen 2??
Suspension travel is a big question for me. I am likely moving to BC, but even here in Ontario, I maxed out the volume spacers on my low-travel Fluid and found that I rode better because I wasn't getting confused by all the extraneous suspension travel on sections that went from low to high G-loading but it still permitted the travel on the hits. I recognize that BC needs much higher travel than Ontario and the comment on e-bikes make sense, but I am concerned that all the travel in the Range would mess me up, and I don't plan to take lots of air (retired, not young).
Anyone have experience on the deleterious effects of lots of travel other than efficiency?
If he is saying he doesnt get why there are 3 travel options why does he then say that he would want more travel and thing, if there is an higher travel option???
I have a different view regarding the chain-stay length. It is the very reason I stick with Norco since 2014. They tune the length of the chainstay according to frame size, giving you the same weight distribution across all sizes. I've always been between two sizes (M & L), and this geometry feature from Norco gives the right balance no matter what size I select.
When manufacturers go with only one chain-stay length, the balance of the bike could change drastically given the size you ride with.
They are all one CS length... it's literally the first point Seb makes.
Are these e bikes reviews hinting at an e bike field test?
W this bike is it possible to not pedal and still go fast because its electric?
Wish these videos were longer..
Range vlt us wonderful for my utilisation (rando-enduro) And my weight 1.90 mètres And 106 kg .
More power?
if your ebike weighs nearly 60 fuckin pounds, a short travel version of it makes literally no sense. if your ebike weighs as low as 37ish pounds like the top spec orbea rise, having short travel makes total sense. 37 pounds is literally how much my transition patrol weighs!
my thoughts exactly
As long as you have volume spacers and 25 - 30% sag on the rear it should be fine
RIP PINK BIKE,
I have the regular 2020 Sight and it's quite decent. I actually got to demo the original 2018 or 19 Sight VLT as well, and that was I think a 140mm fork and 130mm frame? THAT bike felt too short and didn't really make sense to me as an e-bike, but I don't live somewhere with ridiculous technical climbs (lucky enough to have fire roads and climbers paths, etc. - which is part of the reason I'm still on a non e-bike) and the reason I got the new Sight instead of the Range is because I didn't think I'd notice the difference on the local trails. I don't think there would be any difference where I am except for maybe the downhill bike park, and if you're the sort of person to do both, then getting a coil shock to put on your Sight VLT is cheaper than buying a DH bike. Not everyone rides their bike like an enduro-racing monster either, so for some people who do more mellow rides the shorter travel = longer range and more connected feeling with the bike.
Is that a Donut Media reference??
Yep more travel for me
Someone watches donut media
@Dylan MO powah indeed good sir
My very first thought, haha.
Big fans.
@@pinkbike Waiting for Buffed Horses ebikes
i miss Levy&Kaz...
Does not look like a Range which is a shame. High virtual pivot with idler on an e-bike would be something different than everybody else. Does look like a Session though...
needs a bear spray holder
This thing costs three times my car and won’t fit my existing bike rack
Long travel👍👍👍👍170 or more
Looks, nice and expensive.
No one gets dehydrated on a E-Bike.
You can't drink batteries lol. The longer you're in the sun, the more water you need.
Have one of each battery 😂
Nope nope nope.
Guys don’t spend ur $$$ it’s to expensive. Trust me I own t2 norco s sites 2020
$18k for both.
All these modern e bikes have issues ur better off paying for the electrical system on a direct consumer bike and sacrifice the high end components.
If ur in the market to buy a full suspension e bike don’t pay over $3500
Yeah nah cake has more powwa baby and nearly the same price with a spare battery 🤔
I would have the cake over this
24-26kg on ebike is fine...
Norco has one of the worst warranties! I broke my frame on my 2020 range and after a moth still no answer from them!
It’s been five month and I’m still waiting for theme to warranty my frame and I think they will send a frame in a different color 😡
170-180mm makes the most sense for ebikes. They're for shuttling the downs are they not?
Glad I didn't wait for this though... Wanted the range, and love the long geometry, but I'll never by a bike with a shock being a structural member again, I don't care which way the yoke is going! Broken shocks suck.
Yep, seen a couple now in my own group - Kenevo, Commencal
its gonna be fantastic when my arteritis kicks in XD
Sick moped
You'll bend your seat rails riding it like that. Why no 27.5 this year. *sadface
9800$ for a 25kg bike? U crazy?
in this case that weight isn`t that bad... it rides well on the trails...
Don't forget the spare 1500 squid battery u should get soposedly
25 kilos on a modern "MTB"? better get a sunron
10k ehhh no
It is about the price. The short travel price is many thousand less
our vlts shaft bearings got water in through seals giving way . norco said it was not their problem contact shimano . zero help and zero care factor . beware $4000 wasted aus dollars . our cheap chinese bike was better good service also
"...they could place the pivots where they wanted" 🤣 and they have put it behind the motor, so you have a 1 meter chainstay 🤣
It has all the right parts, but no total concept
Some haters in here still riding vintage pedal bikes...lol.... Get with the times, or be left behind, the haters are still probably paddling at the lake with their canoes, while we are on jet skis....
I hate e bikes. They look so fun it makes me want puke. I hate fun.
Only for the...lazy rich. I've had no fun with e-bikes. Heavy, and the battery gives you very limited travel. And the battery longevity is dependent on your body weight, steep hills, and how often ya use turbo mode. And the strength of wind you're riding against. And batteries(crappy Li-Ion), are typically ruined in cold weather. And I ride 365 days a year. Maintenance is another issue. A new battery can cost as much as a hardtail. And most e-bike geeks, don't consider a few grand, a-lot of money. But to passionate riders, as myself, whom have a gluttony of bills and a family to care for, a few hundred is a-lot of money. Spending five, six, twelve grand on a bicycle, is just...stupid. Especially when the bike is made in China for a couple hundred.
29er only, you lost me on that.
27.5 would be my preferred tire size too, a local bike shop fucked up my bike during repairs so they gave me a specialized livo for 2 weeks and as a dude in my 20s would never spend money on that type of bike it was enjoyable to ride. But once you start jumping it felt so weird on 29s being someone who rides 26, 27.5 is the happy medium.
so the ebike thing is ok but going 29er is too far, ok
@@MarioXcore1 @ThePeonPilferer Sorry to disagree with you both, but to me the 29/27,5(2.6 wide) mixed wheel size is the perfect balance for enduro/gravity/long travel ebikes. It gives you the precise steering and clearance capabilities of the 29 front and the easier rear end and better grip with a smaller and slightly wider tire on the rear end.
@@MrEtienne6657 I see, I’m but a little baby when it comes to knowledge of 29er bikes. I can only go off that one experience I had with it.
@@MrEtienne6657 I'm not saying that 29er is the only way to go, @ThePeonPilfere has the correct mindset of just trying it out. All I was saying is that the bike being a 29r shouldn't be off-putting, especially since its an E-bike which is way more of a touchy subject