I did a quick check of several different shopping sites. The 6D Mark II is $1000 cheaper than the cheapest full frame camera that offers 4k. I think people are expecting to much for to little money. BTW, I am a Sony shooter. So, this camera doesn't really have an impact on me.
So I was out in the middle of nowhere. Doing photography with my 6D but frustrated with the autofocus and low light capability. Also doing a little video with my 5D Mark II but not happy with the sensor. Also doing a little video with my 7D Mark II but frustrated that it did not do continuous autofocus during 1080 60fps. And wishing I had a tilty flippy touch to focus screen. Suddenly a brand new 6D Mark II dropped out of the sky. And SOLVED ALL MY PROBLEMS. Awesome. Thank you Canon.
I have been playing with cameras for over 55 years from pentax and hasselblad and the 6dmk2 is the first one that satisfies all my needs or requirements. With nothing left over.
After a lot of mumbling I went on and bought it. I'm interested in stills, I don't shoot video, and I come from an ancient 50D that served me well but started to make me feel "behind", especially in low light situations. I got it for 1100€, which is a fair price (the retail 2000€ was just too much, that is A73 territory!) and I think it was the best choice for what I do: I shoot mostly landscape and wildlife, so the original 6D AF would have been a little too basic for my needs. Also, the GPS is great for traveling, and the tilty screen would make shooting in live view much easier. It's an honest camera, at this price point, it gives you a lot of feature in a small body (much more tough and sealed than mirrorless ones). Really, its only downside is the cramped AF points in the middle, that is just a stupid decision
As a stills photographer this is pretty much my perfect camera, so thank you Canon. Pity about the lack of dual card slots, but in ten years I have never experienced card failure. And thank you Gordon.
To me, the canon 6D Mk ii so far looks like the camera to have as a secondary full frame body, if one has a higher end Canon DSLR such as the 5D Mk IV or 1D X Mk ii. It has many new features and benefits that lacks now in the higher end DSLRs, and that's a plus to me as long as one has any of the higher end camera.
A very rational synopsis of this camera, without all of the angst and emotion over the lack of 4K video. I'm still interested in it, although I will wait for the price to drop a bit.
Not really interested in a revised DSLR from Canon (I jumped ship several years ago) but a new review from Gordon - that's unmissable! "Why! Tell me why!" ;)
I only shoot stills so no 4k is not a biggie for me. My only criticism would be that the focus points are not spread out enough. When I shoot portraits with an 85mm at f1.8 I do not want to have to focus and recompose if I'm fairly close to the subject as this may shift the focus plane. Being able to have the focus point on the eye and to just focus and shoot would be a huge plus for me. For me that's the biggest miss on this camera although 45 cross-type AF points is a substantial upgrade from the original 6D, which only has the centre point as cross-type.
I am with you on that...my only gripe is focus points spread and not having a second memory card slot. Since I am not into videos not having 4k is not a big deal and I will still get the camera. I do understand other peoples' disenchantment since they probably had very high expectations for the new 6D. But if the had put 4k in it it would compete too well with 5D4.
I just purchased a 6D2 with Canon BG-21 battery grip, extra Canon Battery, 64GB SanDisk memory card and a Canon Pixma Pro 100 printer with 50 sheets of 11x13 paper for $1349 (USD) after rebate. I can easily sell the printer and paper for a hundred or two hundred dollars which would really bring the price down but, I think I will keep it and sell my older Pixma Pro 9000 Mark ii for fifty bucks or so...
Hello~! I came here from the Kai W video about the 6D MII ! You were great in your first hit single "TELL ME WHY". jokes aside, your channel provides awesome information. Keep up the good work!
4K is literally expensive. You need to consider you need a camera with 4K, a tv or screen with 4K. External hard rive big enough for a lot 4K videos. Higher end computer for faster operations that can compress 4K easily...
I've edited a bunch of 4k videos for TH-cam on my 2013 MacBook! It's not quick, but it works. And I don't own a 4k TV, but I upload videos in 4k for people here who do. But i agree, it's not for everyone.
An excellent camera. I'm thrilled with it. I owned the original 6d for several years. The 6d II is so much better. I use it for professional portraits and events, and many other things. Absolutely love it. Thanks for the review, Gordon.
I've been putting off my decision to switch from Canon to Fuji in wait for the 6Dii, but based on these specs I'm fairly confident the X-T2 is the one for me...
Joost Hoedjes I'd put money on it that image quality is noticeably better on the 6DII. If you 'genuinely' shoot video I get your point. If you don't and youre not an action/sports photographer then I can't see your point. I'll take IQ and better ergonomics any day of the week.
Great informative vid Gordon, I think all brand in any market do this, slowly upgrade even-do they could do it in one step,, but , like audio and computers , models have to become out dated, only Canon is messy about it because they have so many models and difference is meanly stripping lower priced one of functions , so if continuously doing this tactic then people run the risk of buying a cat in a bag !! So with Canon i study the whole product line wait till the price gone down (and still looks great comparing with the other models , and look what fits my needs , >video
I can care less about 4k. I have the original 6D and the never have shot a thing in video besides shot little clips for fun. I use the original 6D for mostly landscape, night and baby photography. I'm excited for the upgrade.
May I make a suggestion for all the haters? Hire the camera for 1 week, if you don't like it, then its no great loss. BUT, if you take the camera out and do some astrophotography with it, I'm sure you will be pleasantly surprised. Maybe do a 4k timelapse while you're at it? Think about it, 1/180 sync speed, 1/4000 shutter speed, no headphone jack, no 4k video 40000 native ISO. This is primarily an astro/nightscape camera, if Canon marketed it this way, we wouldn't have all this whinging.
I am learning photography right now. I started with a T6i, and now have a 6D MKii. The familiarity with the Canon system, the lenses I already have, and the fully articulating screen are what got me to buy the 6D MKii. The 5D MKiv would have been great if not for the rear screen. Being disabled I like being able to use live view at lower angles that I just can't get with those fixed screens.
Leaving out 4K of a $2K camera in 2017 is bananas. Can't wait for a fullframe mirrorless camera to arrive with GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth, flippy screen, eye focus and compatibility with Sigma's brilliant lenses.
Very disappointed that Canon did not spread the AF points out a bit more rather than just transferring the AF system from the crop-sensor 80D. Now, on this FF all the AF points are jammed into the center portion of the frame. So, for example, if you want to use rule of thirds and have, say, a model's eye at the upper right 2/3 cross point, you will still have to focus and recompose. They should have at least spread the points out a bit so that AF at the rule of thirds points would still be possible without the need to re-compose after focus. It's not a deal killer but come on Canon!
Agree with you! I'm just aiming for an 80D... but for those who want to go for a FF in this price range without 4K, it's no sense, unless you don't want video at all.
Gordon, I enjoy your detailed reviews but for the 6DII reviewers seem much more enamored with 4K video than they are with Full frame capability. I never see you guys give negative or disparaging remarks when the m43 or APS-C manufactures leave out full frame but offer 4K. At $2000 US I don't know of a single camera that offers both FF and 4K. You can't have both, at least not yet, even from Sony. Now I am not a Canon fan boy but I do shoot wth both Canon and Sony and own several of each and if your a Landscape and or Architectural or IQ based photographer and not a videographer they probably are happy someone makes a camera for them. TH-cam reviewers value 4K more so it appears that is pushed into every review as a negative where 4K is not provided. Is that really fair and balanced? I'll look for your next Olympus, Fuji, and Panasonic review where you say "but its not full frame". Then I will know it has become a level playing field. Keep your reviews coming.
You're right, there's no full-framer with 4k for $2000 - YET! I would be surprised if Sony doesn't revamp its A7 series this year, bringing 4k to the lower cost models. The thing is, a camera like the 6D will have a shelf life of 3 to 4 years, so you have to think about not having 4k in 2020 or 2021. I think it'll look a bit old fashioned by then. But yes you're right, you're watching reviews made by people who care a LOT about video - after all, they post video reviews here on YT! You'll find when the more traditional camera publications get hold of it, they'll be more forgiving about the lack of 4k as it's not that important to them. But they will - or should - complain about the lack of twin card slots. As for me, I fall between both camps, so i have to point out all the pros and cons.
I think the next Sony A7III will be interesting if it has 4K but no Type II card or best in class touch screen or fully articulating screen or no GPS and still poor ergonomics. I'm told they will have a much better AF system. I sold my A7II once I got my A7RII because there was no comparison between the two AF systems. I've really learned to love the touch screen on my 5D Mk IV and when looking at what Sony did on the A6500 is a joke and for me (being left eyed) more problem than its worth. For me a camera is much more than just 4K and I think the 6D II will probably still sell well. Could it have been better, yes. What would they have to take out to keep the price and add 4K.? Any opinion?
I'm looking forward to Sony's next generation of cameras. The A9 is so much nicer to use than the A7 Mark II series, so i hope a lot of it makes it into the next A7 models.
I've been watching/reading about the 6D Mark ll, 77D and 80D because I'm going to retire my 60D. While you mention the 2 main issues most other complain about the 6D Mk2 I appreciate how you actually talk about them with a no-nonsense attitude. I am not into video so the 4K thing is not a deterrent and don't see the value for 2 memory card slots for what I do. I am 100% with your comment about people wanting everything in a FF for "cheap", I think the ÜBER/Airbnb mentality is permeating anything, even cameras.
Hi again Gordon, I just forgot to mention this in my last comment. As the 6D Mark II have a flipping screen, It does have Magnesium Alloy Body? I asking this because of the 60D that lost the magnesium alloy body due to the flipping screen.
As a loyal canon user, I have about 6 Canon L lenses, and a few EF lenses and 3 EFS lenses when I started with the 7D. But since there has been nothing competitive since the 5D3, I havent bought anything new from Canon. Im heavily invested in their system, and I recently bought a 5D3, but only second hand and feel I do not have to support a company that does not support its Enthusiast / Part time Professionals. Sure the new 6D ticks the boxes for so many, but when I cannot afford to leave canon's lenses but if I do its cheaper to move to another brand, the best of both worlds is to stay in Canon, buy second hand and vote with my dollars.
Canon should clean their line up of cameras. Few years it was very clean with the entry level rebel series, mid-level xxD series, the 5D and 1D for pros. Nowadays Canon have all those in between cameras that are just giving a little extra than the previous model in the line up. It is unbelievable that my 80D has the mic jack but the 6D does not to protect the 5D....or Canon put Bluetooth in the new 200D but my 80D does not have it....I think that the 80D is the last Canon camera I will ever get....when the time is right, I will sell it and I am done with canon's cameras. The marketing philosophy is pure garbage.
Hi Gordon, Could you please tell me your thoughts on the 5D MK4 Verses the 6D MK2..¿? I really loved the 5DMK3 for portrait shooting. My priorities are: - Portrait/Fashion/Lifestyle - Video VLogging C Neistat style etc. Things of importance: - Dual Pix Focus - Articulating screen (However, with the 5D4, couldn’t you just use the Canon app on a smart phone and attach that to your gimbal or is a small vid display??) any latency issues? I don’t know :(( Was really hoping the 6D2 would have 4K.. Trying to figure out the best route to go to purchase.. Thanku so very much!! Great work btw!! Myles-
I'm still shooting on my old 5D Mk II. I have a decent amount invested in lenses. This seems like the best upgrade option without spending the hefty price for the Mk IV.. Thoughts?
Hey Gordon: dual pixel seems like a good indicator of AF capabilities of using current EF glass on a rumored FF Canon mirrorless. Is that fair? And if so, in that context, think an EF FF mirrorless is a viable A7 competitor?
I would definitely say the performance for photos, video and AF in live view on the current FF models, like the 6D II and 5D4, are 100% indicative of the performance you could expect from a full-frame mirrorless - when fitted with EF lenses anyway. And it would be as good or maybe even a little better with native full-frame EF-M lenses if they went down that route. I think it could be a great move for Canon, but they don't seem in any hurry to do it.
Gordon Laing Thanks Gordon! I guess they're happy with their market share and don't feel threatened by Sony, Fuji, Oly, or Pany. I've held on to my Canon glass, hoping to own a FF EF mirrorless. I won't be buying a 5 or 6D, however. I'll see how it performs on a A7m3 later in the year.
After such a long wait I believe Canon shooters deserved better than that ! Let's face it , the message from Canon is clear : Its DSLR's line is made for those who shoot stills primarily. When the 5D Mark IV was released it was obvious that Canon made a move to protect its cinema line (heavy cropped 4k and unusable codec) and I encourage video shooters to look within the C series . Selling the 6D Mark II for $2000 with such old tech (except for the focus system) is a big let down when we know that the Nikon D750 released 3 years ago has the same feature and comes with a built in cinema profile like the D810 and cost 600$ less and has dual SD card slots ! The Nikon D810 (36mgpxl) perfect for stills and video with dual card slots cost just 300$ more than the Canon 6D Mark II... Wrong move from Canon ! Love my Nikons !
Found it for $2800 which considering the camera is not a bad price. Nevertheless it is an older camera that is just about to get replaced. Not even mentioning what it would cost to replace quality glass. My personal experience with the 6D is great as long as you don't expect it to behave like a 1Dxii or a D500. The image quality is so beautiful that I have barely seen any other systems of equal or lesser money match. I would imagine the new 6Dii will be even better with the higher megapixel count and new sensor.
Unfortunately the lack of 4k is a turn off for me so I am switching to Nikon probably...waiting for announcement for d760 to see what specs are for that model...
I am very much confused on which DSLR to buy. please suggest me whether to but canon 80d or canon 6d mark ii / sony a77ii or Nikon 7500.. I am photo enthusiast. I give very much importance to photo quality.
Canon and Nikon are still living in 2006 when they had the full marked for themselves. Why don't they follow the example of Fuji? They put 90% of the features of the X-T2 in the X-T20. Draw people to you system and eventually they will upgrade anyway, or not, but at least you bound them to your system. Canon is making a huge mistake, no 4K, really?
Why is that relevant and what's your point? I was talking about Fuji as an example of their strategy. You can put 4K in a cheaper body. Besides every cheap mobile phone has 4K these days and you tell me they can not put it in a body of $2000!? That's just a load of bs. At the replacement rate Canon replaces their FF camera's, 4K is already on all major consumer devices in a couple of years (even before a replacement of the 6D mark II shows up), but your $2000 body, can not do it. A bit strange isn't it?
The camera seems to be quite good, but is 4K really that big a deal , I went to a Fuji XT2 event which has 4K & neither the ambassador or Fuji users present ever use the video at all.
The only difference in quality between 4K and 1080p is when you crop in 200%, otherwise you can't tell the difference. These 4K fanatics have fallen for the hype.
Most of the people who screaming "no 4k!" drama are not even using it themself. They just want a reason to bash on canon. Sony did exactly the same with their A7 series.. A7ii didnt have 4k but sony a7Sii/Rii had. They simply wanted to offer a cheap FF option without hurting their more advanced options
The flip screen on the Canon 6D Mark II is great. It's not only a valuable feature for video it's a valuable feature for stills photography as well. I hope Canon puts that feature on more of their DSLRs. Too bad they dropped the ball in other areas. Oh well, hybrid users will look elsewhere and when Canon loses enough business they will hopefully change their ways.
Agree with the 4K; they should have included it since even smart phones have 4K now. Personally, I don't shoot videos, so it's no big deal for me. (I'm an old timer from the film days.) But for most (?) people, video, particularly 4K video, is a must.
A further thought which is a bit of fun too. My view is that the 6D MkII is primarily a stills camera and there are better options for shooting 4k but I would go further than that because I think shooting RAW video is way better than 4k, it also requires a heck of a lot more effort but get it right and its brilliant. Although a family holiday shoot, if you haven't seen it, check the following out, Magic Lantern RAW video shot on the original 6D, its an achievement : th-cam.com/video/ARhuUCsGfbc/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the review Gordon! Even if Canon did include 4k with the 6D Mark II, they would more than likely screw it up by only giving you the option to shoot in MJPEG. I have not completely gotten away from Canon since I have a major investment in their lenses but I doubt I will buy another Canon camera until they make up major policy shift and embrace high quality 4k features on their DSLR's. Such a shame since their autofocus technology is so good. I love the GH5 for video and that is primarily what I use nowadays.
Just wonder did any consumer market survey available on what type of device consumer use to take video... still camera, video camera (camcorder) or handphone? Also, I suspect most consumer just switch to video mode to took video and never know what video resolution they are using.
I do think the 6.5 fps is heavily improved for action /sports. It is a great do-everything camera, however, maybe just get a used 1D series for the same or less $$? If I could pay $500 with trade-in on my 6D, I would get this. For $2000 (6dm1 is worth about $900 used. $1100 upgrade), I will wait. 4k in timelapse ONLY is also a bit of a slap, isn't it?
I enjoyed this review. 4K isn't that important to me, frankly, and the articulating screen is a huge plus on a Canon full-frame. This could be the right upgrade for me from my 70D. However, you say there is "no chance" of any slow motion video with the 6D MkII right after saying it shoots 1080p at 60 fps. Isn't that Full HD slo-mo? What do you mean by "no chance"? Admittedly, my iPhone shoots 240 fps, but no one expects that on any DSLR. So please explain. Thanks.
It depends on your timeline. if your project is 24fps, then filming at 60p will give you a 2.5x slowdown. Or 2x if going from, say, 60p to 30p or 50p to 25p. But that's not really much of a slowdown. You really want 4x or more, which means having 100fps or faster...
Many beginners and shooters are going over to Sony, Olympus and Fuji amateur cameras. The top-of-line amateur e-mount camera from Sony costs more then their SLT-A99 II.
I don't care that it doesn't have a 4K output. If the camera can do it, possibly Magic Lantern will put it. But they screwed up the AF system! The thing that allows us to focus when taking photos! WITH A DSLR! No headphone jack? don't care. no 4K? same. But screwing up the AF system in a dSLR? It doesn't matter if they are more sophisticated when you can't compose/track a subject with the edges. If things are moving fast you can't do a focus lock then recompose. Which makes the 6fps kinda moot.
The videos are recorded in MJPEG, which gives you very large file size an not portable. Canon needs to learn from others how to compress videos using H.265 codec. Both the EOS 1D X and 5D Mk iv doesn't have H.265 compression either. Canon is simply way behind its competitors in this area.
No 4K is not done... I have had Canon camera's for almost 30 years. I have the old 6D and have been eagerly waiting for the MkII. But the lack of 4K really is a dealbreaker. I don't want the 5D: I want a 4K full frame with a swivel or at least a tilting lcd panel. So I really am going to consider if I want to continue with Canon....
As ever Gordon, great review and if I may, I would like to pose a question but first a small background, I do shoot Canon but also have a Lumix G80 which I mainly use for 4K video. Looking at the various comments, most bemoan the lack of 4k as a 'deal breaker' although I would consider a bigger omission the lack of dual card slots. If this camera had 4k would the people who bemoan that it is missing, actually buy a 6D MkII ? I suggest not because it is really a stills camera with limited video capabilities, if video is your main thing there are other far better choices than this including cheap and now fairly decent 4k video cameras designed for the purpose.
I think it depends what you want from a camera... personally I think it would be received better if it had dual slots OR 4k, even better with both, but just one of them would have resolved a lot of complaints. After all, Nikon offered dual slots back on the D600...
Generally speaking people tend to look older after a period of time has passed. You'd look older if you had to deal with these comments for over ten years.
Dear Gordon, I have been visiting your website for many many years and like your good and informative work. Keep going! Time will tell if is was a good move from Canon removing 4k. Maybe they can add it with firmware if they want
Great video Gordon and yes, I agree with you. Canon should build as many features as they can into each new model. Their priority is clearly to preserve their product line as they see it, rather than pleasing the consumer. Buying a Canon camera (and maybe a whole system) rather than a rival's is obviously a win for Canon regardless of the model. Unfortunately Canon can't see that.
What other camera can shoot 4K video on a full frame sensor at this price point? You keep mentioning Sony but their two full frame cameras that can shoot 4K are almost twice the price!! (at least here in Canada)
Decent specs... three years ago. I see this appealing to existing 6D shooters or Canon users/fanboys who want FF and don't have the cash for a 5DmkIV. 4K isn't important to me, but it is to just about everyone else. What's really disappointing is single UHS I, and missing camera features designed to protect the 5DmkIV and missing video features to protect the Cine line. With all the other cameras available in this price range (Fuji X-T2, Sony A7R, Nikon D-750) offering more for the same or slightly less money, I can't see this camera creating any converts to Canon. This one's a head scratcher for me. BTW, really nice video. Compact, concise, too the point, and all in just over 10 minutes. Thank you.
What does the D750 offers more? it doesnt even have a touchscreen or articulating screen, nor 4k. A7R doesnt have 4k either and no touchscreen nor articulating screen... and focus system sucks. Fuji X-T2 is a cropsensor camera and a totally different line not competing with the 6D series. Dual Pixel af alone is worth the upgrade already.
Congratulations. Another helpful review. Bluetooth has inherently very low data speed but is very very convenient for the transfer of a few jpeg photos. Sony still sells new the a7 full frame camera body at 1000$ which is a bargain. Canon should do the same with new Canon 6D mark II. Canon was the first in 2003 to sell an APS-C dSLRs below 1000$. Sony has raised the bar and succeeded that with the full frame a7. I think that Canon should do the same with the Canon 6D.
I wanted to upgrade from my 6d, but I may just settle and deal with the shitty 11 point a.f, I do appreciate the increase in resolution and the flip out screen, but dropping 2 grand on those few modes... no. not at all worth it.
Wow, with all the ressources and technology Canon has at is disposal, sure this 6DII must be a pleasant camera, but why do they shoot their own foot ??? It's a big camera, you can easily have dual SD slot, and come on ! UHS I ???? in 2017 No 4k ??????? even a Lumix G7 offers it... not to mention OVF, no IBIS, no AF joystick which you don't want to back when you've tasted it. As if they don't want to hurt others brands too much ! Incredible.
If you want Full Frame and 4K pay $700 more (today) for an A7RII. That is the only 4K FF body out there. I guess every want 4K and not IQ. For me that is not the trade-off I would make. I would either spend more and get both or settle for HD only and get FF. Might not be what you want but there are those non-videographers that are OK with it.
The issue with this is if you're willing to settle for 1080p video, then there are considerably more options that compete with Canon. An A7 II can be had used for $1000 cheaper than this and probably has cleaner video. 4 years and beyond the DPAF, the changes are all incremental? Canon is acting as if they have no competition, when in reality it's the opposite.
The A9, A99II, A7SII, & A7RII are all full-frame 4K video capable (and the original A7S can capture 4K to an external 4K recorder via the HDMI port). Additional Sony cameras capable of 4K video capture: RX100IV, RX100V, RX10 II, RX10 III, A6300, and the A6500.
I only compare B&H pricing so at $1698 the A7II is cheaper but it does not have a touch screen or a full articulating screen and or the dual pixel auto focus. Its not $1000 cheaper new at a reputable camera store. Not defending canon but each one of us have specific things we want and we discount all the other improvement should some how come for free. Like GPS, BT, NFC
2017 and no 2 card slots, no 4K video. As I have 6D I think I will not upgrade, as this product will not equal 4 years step, but little step better. I'm disappoined. 7D MII is even much better.
Good question. I suspect not as no Canon DSLR had offered it yet, but I'll haver to wait until I have one again for a longer review time. I'm almost 100% sure it will not though.
Hi Gordon, I'd have watch some of your videos before and I like your reviews. Also I agree in you with some points about Canon strategy, they need to think very well what they had done, good example: the 40D & the 50D case, very similar to this (back in 2008, almost 9 years before) and what will they going to do in the future. But maybe it's something that only Canon understand...
i jumped from a 6d to a Sony a6300 last year and love it for video and with speedboosters i can get that full frame look with 4k and use my canon glass manually. or use my 35mm sony on the gimbal. canon needs to pull there socks up and stop playing around. i wonder how many ppl like my self have jumped ship to these mirroless bodies since canon isnt offering to what we want
It's better to cannibalise your own sales than have the competition eat it up. We all agree with that. The only problem is that Canon has enough lead to not have to worry about it until a couple more generations of cameras. They are confident that all they have it under control and it is probably true. Can't blame Canon, but you are right it is a dangerous move. I think a swivel touch screen sony a7iii will give Canon a run for their money.
I frankly don't care about 4k. The improved AF and the articulated screen may be enough for me to justify upgrading. Then I can send in my old 6D for IR conversion.
4k is pretty standard now but it's not a necessity. HDR has a more noticeable impact and is not resolution dependant. Much of our content is web based and 1920 x 1080 is enough for most people.
The good features of the Canon 6D mk II can be had in the T7i, 77D and 80D. There is no compelling reason to upgrade from these unless you want to spend a lot more money. Comparing the 6D mk II to the 5 year old 6D is pointless. Of course, this 2017 camera is better than the 2012 version. Canon should be trying to outperform the competitors' 2017 cameras. Sadly, they continue to disappoint!!!!
"outperforme" in what regards? Its a entry level FF cam. there is no other under 2000$ FF option with 4k. The only FF with fully articulating screen is the Sony A99(ii) which is way more expensive. None of them have dual pixel AF. So there are points where the 6Dmkii outperformes the competitors.
It is for us still guys, who do not need 4K, but want a FF at a decent price.
I did a quick check of several different shopping sites. The 6D Mark II is $1000 cheaper than the cheapest full frame camera that offers 4k. I think people are expecting to much for to little money.
BTW, I am a Sony shooter. So, this camera doesn't really have an impact on me.
So I was out in the middle of nowhere. Doing photography with my 6D but frustrated with the autofocus and low light capability. Also doing a little video with my 5D Mark II but not happy with the sensor. Also doing a little video with my 7D Mark II but frustrated that it did not do continuous autofocus during 1080 60fps. And wishing I had a tilty flippy touch to focus screen. Suddenly a brand new 6D Mark II dropped out of the sky. And SOLVED ALL MY PROBLEMS. Awesome. Thank you Canon.
I have been playing with cameras for over 55 years from pentax and hasselblad and the 6dmk2 is the first one that satisfies all my needs or requirements. With nothing left over.
Cannot wait to test the new Canon 6D MKII. There is no need for 4K video its a still camera.
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"WHY! Tell me WHYYY!?"
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I'm here because of this " WHY! Tell me WHYYY!!!??"
Me too.
After a lot of mumbling I went on and bought it. I'm interested in stills, I don't shoot video, and I come from an ancient 50D that served me well but started to make me feel "behind", especially in low light situations. I got it for 1100€, which is a fair price (the retail 2000€ was just too much, that is A73 territory!) and I think it was the best choice for what I do: I shoot mostly landscape and wildlife, so the original 6D AF would have been a little too basic for my needs. Also, the GPS is great for traveling, and the tilty screen would make shooting in live view much easier. It's an honest camera, at this price point, it gives you a lot of feature in a small body (much more tough and sealed than mirrorless ones). Really, its only downside is the cramped AF points in the middle, that is just a stupid decision
As a stills photographer this is pretty much my perfect camera, so thank you Canon. Pity about the lack of dual card slots, but in ten years I have never experienced card failure. And thank you Gordon.
To me, the canon 6D Mk ii so far looks like the camera to have as a secondary full frame body, if one has a higher end Canon DSLR such as the 5D Mk IV or 1D X Mk ii. It has many new features and benefits that lacks now in the higher end DSLRs, and that's a plus to me as long as one has any of the higher end camera.
A very rational synopsis of this camera, without all of the angst and emotion over the lack of 4K video. I'm still interested in it, although I will wait for the price to drop a bit.
Not really interested in a revised DSLR from Canon (I jumped ship several years ago) but a new review from Gordon - that's unmissable!
"Why! Tell me why!" ;)
I only shoot stills so no 4k is not a biggie for me. My only criticism would be that the focus points are not spread out enough. When I shoot portraits with an 85mm at f1.8 I do not want to have to focus and recompose if I'm fairly close to the subject as this may shift the focus plane. Being able to have the focus point on the eye and to just focus and shoot would be a huge plus for me. For me that's the biggest miss on this camera although 45 cross-type AF points is a substantial upgrade from the original 6D, which only has the centre point as cross-type.
I am with you on that...my only gripe is focus points spread and not having a second memory card slot. Since I am not into videos not having 4k is not a big deal and I will still get the camera. I do understand other peoples' disenchantment since they probably had very high expectations for the new 6D. But if the had put 4k in it it would compete too well with 5D4.
LOL, I read your comment and for a moment felt i was reading my mown mind!@@AnthonyMC67
You could use live view and zoom in on the eye with the magnifier and get an ever sharper focus than the viewfinder method
Why should 4K be so important? Most DSLR video seems to be TH-cam Vloggers which doesn"t support 4k.
I just purchased a 6D2 with Canon BG-21 battery grip, extra Canon Battery, 64GB SanDisk memory card and a Canon Pixma Pro 100 printer with 50 sheets of 11x13 paper for $1349 (USD) after rebate. I can easily sell the printer and paper for a hundred or two hundred dollars which would really bring the price down but, I think I will keep it and sell my older Pixma Pro 9000 Mark ii for fifty bucks or so...
Hello~! I came here from the Kai W video about the 6D MII ! You were great in your first hit single "TELL ME WHY". jokes aside, your channel provides awesome information. Keep up the good work!
Nice performance in Kai's vid! Just kidding ;-) Good review as always Gordon!
Ha ha! I was in a silly mood that day!
Gordon Laing
*Stay Silly, we love it ♥*
Gordon Laing you'd have to be with this launch! 😘
4K is literally expensive. You need to consider you need a camera with 4K, a tv or screen with 4K. External hard rive big enough for a lot 4K videos. Higher end computer for faster operations that can compress 4K easily...
I've edited a bunch of 4k videos for TH-cam on my 2013 MacBook! It's not quick, but it works. And I don't own a 4k TV, but I upload videos in 4k for people here who do. But i agree, it's not for everyone.
An excellent camera. I'm thrilled with it. I owned the original 6d for several years. The 6d II is so much better. I use it for professional portraits and events, and many other things. Absolutely love it. Thanks for the review, Gordon.
I've been putting off my decision to switch from Canon to Fuji in wait for the 6Dii, but based on these specs I'm fairly confident the X-T2 is the one for me...
Joost Hoedjes I'd put money on it that image quality is noticeably better on the 6DII. If you 'genuinely' shoot video I get your point. If you don't and youre not an action/sports photographer then I can't see your point. I'll take IQ and better ergonomics any day of the week.
I'm very happy with my results whenever I shoot with the Fuji bodies.
Wait for Nikon upcoming models Nikon d760 and Nikon d820 or 850..!
I tired fuji f100x ................................a big no
I would suggest you compare images first. The original 6d images look better than the XT2s in my opinion.
Great informative vid Gordon, I think all brand in any market do this, slowly upgrade even-do they could do it in one step,, but , like audio and computers , models have to become out dated, only Canon is messy about it because they have so many models and difference is meanly stripping lower priced one of functions , so if continuously doing this tactic then people run the risk of buying a cat in a bag !! So with Canon i study the whole product line wait till the price gone down (and still looks great comparing with the other models , and look what fits my needs , >video
Thanks Roel!
Basically, except for a couple minor differences, a full frame 80d. Nothing wrong with that I guess.
I can care less about 4k. I have the original 6D and the never have shot a thing in video besides shot little clips for fun. I use the original 6D for mostly landscape, night and baby photography. I'm excited for the upgrade.
May I make a suggestion for all the haters? Hire the camera for 1 week, if you don't like it, then its no great loss. BUT, if you take the camera out and do some astrophotography with it, I'm sure you will be pleasantly surprised. Maybe do a 4k timelapse while you're at it?
Think about it, 1/180 sync speed, 1/4000 shutter speed, no headphone jack, no 4k video 40000 native ISO. This is primarily an astro/nightscape camera, if Canon marketed it this way, we wouldn't have all this whinging.
I am learning photography right now. I started with a T6i, and now have a 6D MKii. The familiarity with the Canon system, the lenses I already have, and the fully articulating screen are what got me to buy the 6D MKii. The 5D MKiv would have been great if not for the rear screen. Being disabled I like being able to use live view at lower angles that I just can't get with those fixed screens.
Leaving out 4K of a $2K camera in 2017 is bananas. Can't wait for a fullframe mirrorless camera to arrive with GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth, flippy screen, eye focus and compatibility with Sigma's brilliant lenses.
Very disappointed that Canon did not spread the AF points out a bit more rather than just transferring the AF system from the crop-sensor 80D. Now, on this FF all the AF points are jammed into the center portion of the frame. So, for example, if you want to use rule of thirds and have, say, a model's eye at the upper right 2/3 cross point, you will still have to focus and recompose. They should have at least spread the points out a bit so that AF at the rule of thirds points would still be possible without the need to re-compose after focus. It's not a deal killer but come on Canon!
What lens are you shooting this with? You're head looks weird, but only in this video.
Agree with you!
I'm just aiming for an 80D... but for those who want to go for a FF in this price range without 4K, it's no sense, unless you don't want video at all.
Gordon, I enjoy your detailed reviews but for the 6DII reviewers seem much more enamored with 4K video than they are with Full frame capability. I never see you guys give negative or disparaging remarks when the m43 or APS-C manufactures leave out full frame but offer 4K. At $2000 US I don't know of a single camera that offers both FF and 4K. You can't have both, at least not yet, even from Sony. Now I am not a Canon fan boy but I do shoot wth both Canon and Sony and own several of each and if your a Landscape and or Architectural or IQ based photographer and not a videographer they probably are happy someone makes a camera for them. TH-cam reviewers value 4K more so it appears that is pushed into every review as a negative where 4K is not provided. Is that really fair and balanced? I'll look for your next Olympus, Fuji, and Panasonic review where you say "but its not full frame". Then I will know it has become a level playing field.
Keep your reviews coming.
You're right, there's no full-framer with 4k for $2000 - YET! I would be surprised if Sony doesn't revamp its A7 series this year, bringing 4k to the lower cost models. The thing is, a camera like the 6D will have a shelf life of 3 to 4 years, so you have to think about not having 4k in 2020 or 2021. I think it'll look a bit old fashioned by then. But yes you're right, you're watching reviews made by people who care a LOT about video - after all, they post video reviews here on YT! You'll find when the more traditional camera publications get hold of it, they'll be more forgiving about the lack of 4k as it's not that important to them. But they will - or should - complain about the lack of twin card slots. As for me, I fall between both camps, so i have to point out all the pros and cons.
I think the next Sony A7III will be interesting if it has 4K but no Type II card or best in class touch screen or fully articulating screen or no GPS and still poor ergonomics. I'm told they will have a much better AF system. I sold my A7II once I got my A7RII because there was no comparison between the two AF systems.
I've really learned to love the touch screen on my 5D Mk IV and when looking at what Sony did on the A6500 is a joke and for me (being left eyed) more problem than its worth. For me a camera is much more than just 4K and I think the 6D II will probably still sell well. Could it have been better, yes. What would they have to take out to keep the price and add 4K.? Any opinion?
I'm looking forward to Sony's next generation of cameras. The A9 is so much nicer to use than the A7 Mark II series, so i hope a lot of it makes it into the next A7 models.
Canon has finally made a full frame version of 70d. Same, 5 years old techology.
FF version of the 80D.. 70D uses much older sensor and worse focus system.
I have the original 6D and use it for weddings. It is a great serving camera if you know how to use it well.
I've been watching/reading about the 6D Mark ll, 77D and 80D because I'm going to retire my 60D. While you mention the 2 main issues most other complain about the 6D Mk2 I appreciate how you actually talk about them with a no-nonsense attitude. I am not into video so the 4K thing is not a deterrent and don't see the value for 2 memory card slots for what I do.
I am 100% with your comment about people wanting everything in a FF for "cheap", I think the ÜBER/Airbnb mentality is permeating anything, even cameras.
selling my canon camera and lenses to save up for the SONY A7Riii. will be getting it when released.
Hi again Gordon, I just forgot to mention this in my last comment. As the 6D Mark II have a flipping screen, It does have Magnesium Alloy Body? I asking this because of the 60D that lost the magnesium alloy body due to the flipping screen.
Thanks, Gordon. Will wait for your full review!
As a loyal canon user, I have about 6 Canon L lenses, and a few EF lenses and 3 EFS lenses when I started with the 7D.
But since there has been nothing competitive since the 5D3, I havent bought anything new from Canon. Im heavily invested in their system, and I recently bought a 5D3, but only second hand and feel I do not have to support a company that does not support its Enthusiast / Part time Professionals. Sure the new 6D ticks the boxes for so many, but when I cannot afford to leave canon's lenses but if I do its cheaper to move to another brand, the best of both worlds is to stay in Canon, buy second hand and vote with my dollars.
Canon should clean their line up of cameras. Few years it was very clean with the entry level rebel series, mid-level xxD series, the 5D and 1D for pros. Nowadays Canon have all those in between cameras that are just giving a little extra than the previous model in the line up. It is unbelievable that my 80D has the mic jack but the 6D does not to protect the 5D....or Canon put Bluetooth in the new 200D but my 80D does not have it....I think that the 80D is the last Canon camera I will ever get....when the time is right, I will sell it and I am done with canon's cameras. The marketing philosophy is pure garbage.
My next will probably be a EOS R or RP in a couple years.
Not surprised if Nikon release an update to the D610 with 4K support
I mainly shoot stills, a little bit of video here and there. I'm a simply man so full frame, 45 AF, vari-angle screen does it for me.
Hi Gordon,
Could you please tell me your thoughts on the 5D MK4 Verses the 6D MK2..¿?
I really loved the 5DMK3 for portrait shooting.
My priorities are:
- Portrait/Fashion/Lifestyle
- Video VLogging C Neistat style
etc.
Things of importance:
- Dual Pix Focus
- Articulating screen (However, with the 5D4, couldn’t you just use the Canon app on a smart phone and attach that to your gimbal or is a small vid display??) any latency issues?
I don’t know :((
Was really hoping the 6D2 would have 4K..
Trying to figure out the best route to go to purchase..
Thanku so very much!!
Great work btw!!
Myles-
I'm still shooting on my old 5D Mk II. I have a decent amount invested in lenses. This seems like the best upgrade option without spending the hefty price for the Mk IV.. Thoughts?
If you don't need 4k or the better AF of the 5D4, I think the 6D II is a great upgrade. I prefer it simply for the fully articulated screen.
Hey Gordon: dual pixel seems like a good indicator of AF capabilities of using current EF glass on a rumored FF Canon mirrorless. Is that fair? And if so, in that context, think an EF FF mirrorless is a viable A7 competitor?
I would definitely say the performance for photos, video and AF in live view on the current FF models, like the 6D II and 5D4, are 100% indicative of the performance you could expect from a full-frame mirrorless - when fitted with EF lenses anyway. And it would be as good or maybe even a little better with native full-frame EF-M lenses if they went down that route. I think it could be a great move for Canon, but they don't seem in any hurry to do it.
Gordon Laing Thanks Gordon! I guess they're happy with their market share and don't feel threatened by Sony, Fuji, Oly, or Pany. I've held on to my Canon glass, hoping to own a FF EF mirrorless. I won't be buying a 5 or 6D, however. I'll see how it performs on a A7m3 later in the year.
that full frame, 45pts crosstype autofocus, dual pixel autofocus, and flippy lcd seems tempting... but i think D500 suits me more.
I'm sure you'll confirm this in your full review, but I heard (Jared Polin) that the one SD card slot is UHS-I and not UHS-II.
why is the footage of the camera so shaky!?
so which one would you suggest btwn Fuji xt2 and 6d 2... I need to upgrade from my 550D
After such a long wait I believe Canon shooters deserved better than that ! Let's face it , the message from Canon is clear : Its DSLR's line is made for those who shoot stills primarily. When the 5D Mark IV was released it was obvious that Canon made a move to protect its cinema line (heavy cropped 4k and unusable codec) and I encourage video shooters to look within the C series . Selling the 6D Mark II for $2000 with such old tech (except for the focus system) is a big let down when we know that the Nikon D750 released 3 years ago has the same feature and comes with a built in cinema profile like the D810 and cost 600$ less and has dual SD card slots ! The Nikon D810 (36mgpxl) perfect for stills and video with dual card slots cost just 300$ more than the Canon 6D Mark II... Wrong move from Canon ! Love my Nikons !
I remain very fond of the D750...
+Gordon Laing It seems pro photographers tend to use Nikon's. I wonder why? Tell me why.
Where can I get a Nikon D810 new for $2300? For that price I don't mind adding Nikon to my Canon collection.
Anthony Morales check on b and H or on ebay and amazon
Found it for $2800 which considering the camera is not a bad price. Nevertheless it is an older camera that is just about to get replaced. Not even mentioning what it would cost to replace quality glass. My personal experience with the 6D is great as long as you don't expect it to behave like a 1Dxii or a D500. The image quality is so beautiful that I have barely seen any other systems of equal or lesser money match. I would imagine the new 6Dii will be even better with the higher megapixel count and new sensor.
Unfortunately the lack of 4k is a turn off for me so I am switching to Nikon probably...waiting for announcement for d760 to see what specs are for that model...
I am very much confused on which DSLR to buy. please suggest me whether to but canon 80d or canon 6d mark ii / sony a77ii or Nikon 7500.. I am photo enthusiast. I give very much importance to photo quality.
Can please someone tell me a 2000 $ FULL FRAME Camera that shoots 4k? Oh there is none on the market - not even from sony - right now? Whyyyyyyyy?
Canon and Nikon are still living in 2006 when they had the full marked for themselves. Why don't they follow the example of Fuji? They put 90% of the features of the X-T2 in the X-T20. Draw people to you system and eventually they will upgrade anyway, or not, but at least you bound them to your system. Canon is making a huge mistake, no 4K, really?
Luuk Dingemanse because they own more than half the market share?
What fullframe 4k option under 2000$ with dual pixel AF and touchscreen from Fuji is there exactly? enlight me :)
George Koklas they still do, but for howlong? And is owning half the marketshare a reason to get "lazy" in cameradevelopment?
Why is that relevant and what's your point? I was talking about Fuji as an example of their strategy. You can put 4K in a cheaper body. Besides every cheap mobile phone has 4K these days and you tell me they can not put it in a body of $2000!? That's just a load of bs. At the replacement rate Canon replaces their FF camera's, 4K is already on all major consumer devices in a couple of years (even before a replacement of the 6D mark II shows up), but your $2000 body, can not do it. A bit strange isn't it?
The camera seems to be quite good, but is 4K really that big a deal , I went to a Fuji XT2 event which has 4K & neither the ambassador or Fuji users present ever use the video at all.
The only difference in quality between 4K and 1080p is when you crop in 200%, otherwise you can't tell the difference. These 4K fanatics have fallen for the hype.
Most of the people who screaming "no 4k!" drama are not even using it themself. They just want a reason to bash on canon.
Sony did exactly the same with their A7 series.. A7ii didnt have 4k but sony a7Sii/Rii had. They simply wanted to offer a cheap FF option without hurting their more advanced options
Gordon any rough estimates on releasing a review????
The flip screen on the Canon 6D Mark II is great. It's not only a valuable feature for video it's a valuable feature for stills photography as well. I hope Canon puts that feature on more of their DSLRs. Too bad they dropped the ball in other areas. Oh well, hybrid users will look elsewhere and when Canon loses enough business they will hopefully change their ways.
Agree with the 4K; they should have included it since even smart phones have 4K now. Personally, I don't shoot videos, so it's no big deal for me. (I'm an old timer from the film days.) But for most (?) people, video, particularly 4K video, is a must.
A further thought which is a bit of fun too. My view is that the 6D MkII is primarily a stills camera and there are better options for shooting 4k but I would go further than that because I think shooting RAW video is way better than 4k, it also requires a heck of a lot more effort but get it right and its brilliant. Although a family holiday shoot, if you haven't seen it, check the following out, Magic Lantern RAW video shot on the original 6D, its an achievement : th-cam.com/video/ARhuUCsGfbc/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the review Gordon! Even if Canon did include 4k with the 6D Mark II, they would more than likely screw it up by only giving you the option to shoot in MJPEG. I have not completely gotten away from Canon since I have a major investment in their lenses but I doubt I will buy another Canon camera until they make up major policy shift and embrace high quality 4k features on their DSLR's. Such a shame since their autofocus technology is so good. I love the GH5 for video and that is primarily what I use nowadays.
I had hoped that it had 4K, but everything else is great. I want to uppgraderar from my 70D.
Just wonder did any consumer market survey available on what type of device consumer use to take video... still camera, video camera (camcorder) or handphone? Also, I suspect most consumer just switch to video mode to took video and never know what video resolution they are using.
We need focus points covering most of the screen that is one of the most important things for me.
I do think the 6.5 fps is heavily improved for action /sports. It is a great do-everything camera, however, maybe just get a used 1D series for the same or less $$? If I could pay $500 with trade-in on my 6D, I would get this. For $2000 (6dm1 is worth about $900 used. $1100 upgrade), I will wait. 4k in timelapse ONLY is also a bit of a slap, isn't it?
I enjoyed this review. 4K isn't that important to me, frankly, and the articulating screen is a huge plus on a Canon full-frame. This could be the right upgrade for me from my 70D.
However, you say there is "no chance" of any slow motion video with the 6D MkII right after saying it shoots 1080p at 60 fps. Isn't that Full HD slo-mo? What do you mean by "no chance"? Admittedly, my iPhone shoots 240 fps, but no one expects that on any DSLR. So please explain. Thanks.
It depends on your timeline. if your project is 24fps, then filming at 60p will give you a 2.5x slowdown. Or 2x if going from, say, 60p to 30p or 50p to 25p. But that's not really much of a slowdown. You really want 4x or more, which means having 100fps or faster...
Many beginners and shooters are going over to Sony, Olympus and Fuji amateur cameras.
The top-of-line amateur e-mount camera from Sony costs more then their SLT-A99 II.
Yas was waiting for this and now I guess it is almost out. But I did went with Nikon d600 while waiting.
Gordon awesome videos! been watching you since 2007! :) thank you very much!
I don't care that it doesn't have a 4K output. If the camera can do it, possibly Magic Lantern will put it.
But they screwed up the AF system! The thing that allows us to focus when taking photos! WITH A DSLR!
No headphone jack? don't care. no 4K? same. But screwing up the AF system in a dSLR? It doesn't matter if they are more sophisticated when you can't compose/track a subject with the edges. If things are moving fast you can't do a focus lock then recompose. Which makes the 6fps kinda moot.
The videos are recorded in MJPEG, which gives you very large file size an not portable. Canon needs to learn from others how to compress videos using H.265 codec. Both the EOS 1D X and 5D Mk iv doesn't have H.265 compression either. Canon is simply way behind its competitors in this area.
Every geek out there needs to do a show like this for TH-cam.
No 4K is not done...
I have had Canon camera's for almost 30 years. I have the old 6D and have been eagerly waiting for the MkII.
But the lack of 4K really is a dealbreaker. I don't want the 5D: I want a 4K full frame with a swivel or at least a tilting lcd panel.
So I really am going to consider if I want to continue with Canon....
There is no alternative tho. there is no FF under 2000$ with 4k. not even from sony yet.
As ever Gordon, great review and if I may, I would like to pose a question but first a small background, I do shoot Canon but also have a Lumix G80 which I mainly use for 4K video. Looking at the various comments, most bemoan the lack of 4k as a 'deal breaker' although I would consider a bigger omission the lack of dual card slots. If this camera had 4k would the people who bemoan that it is missing, actually buy a 6D MkII ? I suggest not because it is really a stills camera with limited video capabilities, if video is your main thing there are other far better choices than this including cheap and now fairly decent 4k video cameras designed for the purpose.
I think it depends what you want from a camera... personally I think it would be received better if it had dual slots OR 4k, even better with both, but just one of them would have resolved a lot of complaints. After all, Nikon offered dual slots back on the D600...
Agree, I have dual slots on my 7D MkII and when doing an "event" really use them. Keep up the good work, love you posts.
thanks @Cameralabs awesome video and review!she is a lovly little camera
For me no Dual SD slots its a big nono for upgrade.
Why?
watching you after a long time. You look old Gordon. You were one of the few camera reviewers when I took to Photography in 2008
Generally speaking people tend to look older after a period of time has passed. You'd look older if you had to deal with these comments for over ten years.
Gordon Laing Just an observation no offence. You still have the same emotion less face though!
Dear Gordon, I have been visiting your website for many many years and like your good and informative work. Keep going! Time will tell if is was a good move from Canon removing 4k. Maybe they can add it with firmware if they want
Thanks! It's more than just firmware though - the body needs to be built to handle the heat from capturing 4k.
Great video Gordon and yes, I agree with you. Canon should build as many features as they can into each new model. Their priority is clearly to preserve their product line as they see it, rather than pleasing the consumer. Buying a Canon camera (and maybe a whole system) rather than a rival's is obviously a win for Canon regardless of the model. Unfortunately Canon can't see that.
the best canon 6d2 review yet, thank you!
Thanks Dan!
it's been some time to see in video....hope you are doing great!
Nice and honest review!!
how does this compare to 5d mk iii?
What other camera can shoot 4K video on a full frame sensor at this price point? You keep mentioning Sony but their two full frame cameras that can shoot 4K are almost twice the price!! (at least here in Canada)
Decent specs... three years ago. I see this appealing to existing 6D shooters or Canon users/fanboys who want FF and don't have the cash for a 5DmkIV. 4K isn't important to me, but it is to just about everyone else. What's really disappointing is single UHS I, and missing camera features designed to protect the 5DmkIV and missing video features to protect the Cine line. With all the other cameras available in this price range (Fuji X-T2, Sony A7R, Nikon D-750) offering more for the same or slightly less money, I can't see this camera creating any converts to Canon. This one's a head scratcher for me. BTW, really nice video. Compact, concise, too the point, and all in just over 10 minutes. Thank you.
What does the D750 offers more? it doesnt even have a touchscreen or articulating screen, nor 4k.
A7R doesnt have 4k either and no touchscreen nor articulating screen... and focus system sucks.
Fuji X-T2 is a cropsensor camera and a totally different line not competing with the 6D series.
Dual Pixel af alone is worth the upgrade already.
Congratulations. Another helpful review.
Bluetooth has inherently very low data speed but is very very convenient for the transfer of a few jpeg photos.
Sony still sells new the a7 full frame camera body at 1000$ which is a bargain. Canon should do the same with new Canon 6D mark II.
Canon was the first in 2003 to sell an APS-C dSLRs below 1000$. Sony has raised the bar and succeeded that with the full frame a7.
I think that Canon should do the same with the Canon 6D.
I wanted to upgrade from my 6d, but I may just settle and deal with the shitty 11 point a.f, I do appreciate the increase in resolution and the flip out screen, but dropping 2 grand on those few modes... no. not at all worth it.
where are your shots of kai ;)
I was too busy lying on the floor trying to get my low angle shots you see in this video!
Wow, with all the ressources and technology Canon has at is disposal, sure this 6DII must be a pleasant camera, but why do they shoot their own foot ??? It's a big camera, you can easily have dual SD slot, and come on ! UHS I ???? in 2017 No 4k ??????? even a Lumix G7 offers it... not to mention OVF, no IBIS, no AF joystick which you don't want to back when you've tasted it. As if they don't want to hurt others brands too much ! Incredible.
Yes, the G7 does offer 4K. Personally I want a Full Frame for my stills work.
No 4K VIDEO in 2017 ?!?!?!??!?!
Canon needs to look up the word 'Luddite' and reflect at length on 4K...
If you want Full Frame and 4K pay $700 more (today) for an A7RII. That is the only 4K FF body out there.
I guess every want 4K and not IQ. For me that is not the trade-off I would make. I would either spend more and get both or settle for HD only and get FF. Might not be what you want but there are those non-videographers that are OK with it.
The issue with this is if you're willing to settle for 1080p video, then there are considerably more options that compete with Canon. An A7 II can be had used for $1000 cheaper than this and probably has cleaner video. 4 years and beyond the DPAF, the changes are all incremental? Canon is acting as if they have no competition, when in reality it's the opposite.
The A9, A99II, A7SII, & A7RII are all full-frame 4K video capable (and the original A7S can capture 4K to an external 4K recorder via the HDMI port).
Additional Sony cameras capable of 4K video capture: RX100IV, RX100V, RX10 II, RX10 III, A6300, and the A6500.
Yes but the A9, A99II, A7SII, and A7RII are all more than $2000 and the others while less are not full frame.
I only compare B&H pricing so at $1698 the A7II is cheaper but it does not have a touch screen or a full articulating screen and or the dual pixel auto focus. Its not $1000 cheaper new at a reputable camera store. Not defending canon but each one of us have specific things we want and we discount all the other improvement should some how come for free. Like GPS, BT, NFC
My dissappointment of no 4K,most of the Camera today have 4K even the mirrorless!
2017 and no 2 card slots, no 4K video. As I have 6D I think I will not upgrade, as this product will not equal 4 years step, but little step better. I'm disappoined. 7D MII is even much better.
does this camera have focus peaking
Good question. I suspect not as no Canon DSLR had offered it yet, but I'll haver to wait until I have one again for a longer review time. I'm almost 100% sure it will not though.
You should release a why tell me why t-shirt soon! 😊 informative look as always!
Sadly, I went to Panasonic and haven't looked back.
Hi Gordon, I'd have watch some of your videos before and I like your reviews. Also I agree in you with some points about Canon strategy, they need to think very well what they had done, good example: the 40D & the 50D case, very similar to this (back in 2008, almost 9 years before) and what will they going to do in the future. But maybe it's something that only Canon understand...
Maybe Canon still dont have developed ff 4k for the masses..I think APSC models will get it 1st, maybe even 7d mk III or mirror less.
Does this camera have IS?
Has it got 8k my Red has !
i jumped from a 6d to a Sony a6300 last year and love it for video and with speedboosters i can get that full frame look with 4k and use my canon glass manually. or use my 35mm sony on the gimbal. canon needs to pull there socks up and stop playing around. i wonder how many ppl like my self have jumped ship to these mirroless bodies since canon isnt offering to what we want
I think plenty have switched to mirrorless especially if they want the best video at an affordable price.
It's better to cannibalise your own sales than have the competition eat it up. We all agree with that. The only problem is that Canon has enough lead to not have to worry about it until a couple more generations of cameras. They are confident that all they have it under control and it is probably true. Can't blame Canon, but you are right it is a dangerous move. I think a swivel touch screen sony a7iii will give Canon a run for their money.
I frankly don't care about 4k. The improved AF and the articulated screen may be enough for me to justify upgrading. Then I can send in my old 6D for IR conversion.
4k is pretty standard now but it's not a necessity. HDR has a more noticeable impact and is not resolution dependant. Much of our content is web based and 1920 x 1080 is enough for most people.
Gordon Thanks !
The good features of the Canon 6D mk II can be had in the T7i, 77D and 80D. There is no compelling reason to upgrade from these unless you want to spend a lot more money.
Comparing the 6D mk II to the 5 year old 6D is pointless. Of course, this 2017 camera is better than the 2012 version. Canon should be trying to outperform the competitors' 2017 cameras. Sadly, they continue to disappoint!!!!
"outperforme" in what regards? Its a entry level FF cam. there is no other under 2000$ FF option with 4k.
The only FF with fully articulating screen is the Sony A99(ii) which is way more expensive. None of them have dual pixel AF.
So there are points where the 6Dmkii outperformes the competitors.
You forgot the full frame sensor. The 6D Mark II is much better than my 80D.