You can tell this show is from the late 90's-early 00's. Today within the first 5 minutes at least 3 of those neighbors would have taken and posted pictures and videos of that little backyard Parris Island scene, and forever burned any chance Harm ever had of going undercover.
Such a (former?) Marine-Guy wouldn't live in the middle of some suburb, nope they'd probably live out in the countryside, so nobody there to take pictures (or call the police or something) :D
The Marines are small force. All the long term Marines of the same rank and military specialty know each other. The chance of passing an under-cover off as a gunnery sergeant are slim to none.
I was Air Force over 14 years and work with marines and other services several times, stationed Okinawa as well…I’m not going to know everyone that knew them. Maybe the detachment CO like a CWO referred as Gunner. But not enlisted.
Marine Corps are the pawns. Navy is their Daddy. They just employ that “get tough” attitude because they have the lowest test scores, lowest IQs, worst tech / gear, and use an outmoded method of barbarian warfare
The "DI" is missing his EGA on his left brest pocket, and the major says she and the "gunny" both served in Bosnia but neither have a NATO medal, then the "gunny" walks on the right of the major instead of to her left.
Ok, if this was an undercover operation why would they put him somewhere where he can be compromised by people he knows. Also is he really supposed to soak up 20 years of Marine Corps life in an afternoon at some retired Sgt Maj's house with the entire neighborhood watching. Finally 2/9 is a battalion in an infantry regiment. It would not be commanded by a Captain.
The line companies in infantry battalions are generally commanded by a Captain. The Battalion XO is a Major and the Battalion CO is a LtCol. I was in 2/9 from February 1982 - September 1985 when it was at Camp Margarita, Camp Pendleton, CA. Later, 2/9 was deactivated and then later reactivated some years later at Camp Lejeune, NC. This is a normal occurrence during times of a drawdown/plus-up. There were never any females in 2/9. I enjoyed JAG, but the military advisor for the show (if there even was one) should have been punched in the forehead. They seldom got anything right.
@@dancooper6447 yeah and if they had said or implied that the Captain was a company commander I would be cool with that. Of course this is the same show that sends has Harm routinely making carrier landings even though he hasn't been rated for them for years. And those are the least egregious mistakes
@@chadhunter4657 - True! Holly weird should do a little more research. I get it that it is only entertainment - and I have learned to laugh at it. Side note: 2/9 was never in Bosnia, either.
If the Marines had wanted that Mssgt to have a neck (or be able to bend it) they would have ISSUED him one! I know a few guys like this, and most are truly scary in their normal environment. That and I have NEVER seen a senior enlisted guy (like this) who would EVER need to report ANYTHING to the CO, they would handle it themselves (either personally, or via the Sargent's mafia ('how would like to spend the next 6 months inventorying the grease in the maintenance locker and standing weekend duty EVERY weekend?'). and rarely at that!
@@joebates3272 When I went through USN boot camp (yeah I know sar-major), they had just changed from NCO's using direct physical punishment to JUST PTing you till THEY got tired of watching you exercise! This did not prevent instructors from using their 'normal' conversational volume (as loud as they could yell to ensure you HEARD the instruction(s)) and distance (about the time his hat brim hit your chest!)! Our Company Commander was an extremely sharp Senior Chief Ship's Serviceman, named Olaes (this would turn out to be his last company, the CO of the NTC would deep dip him to be her new Master Chief of the Command about two weeks after we graduated). He was about 5'10' (if that) and most of the company was at LEAST that tall (I am 6'5, was actually the SECOND tallest in the company). I was suffering from a pair of matched ear infections (which would result in a 'no marching chit' eventually and doing my freedom run on a stationary bicycle) and would lose my balance at the drop of a hat (literally sometimes, having to look at my feet to keep from falling over). After a (well-deserved) ass chewing I (for the first time in nearly a dozen weeks in boot-camp) succumbed to the temptation and looked down at the top of the Senior Chief's hat. He had a note (on white paper (to partially hide I think) that said 'DON;T EVEN THINK ABOUT LOOKING DOWN AT ME!! LOOK STRAIGHT AHEAD! (ALONG WITH AN ADJECTIVE!!)' It was all I could do to NOT bust out laughing!
Does nobody else think it's crazy that mac expects to be told anything or that she's careless she says "good to see you again, like why does she not think beyond herself?
@@specialk9424 Actually, it was him. Looks a lot different when he shaves off his signature eyebrows. www.imdb.com/title/tt0613264/characters/nm0000388
@@nikkeisimmer8795 No, it wasn't. I know what it says on IMDB, but that wasn't Gunny. The voice is different, and shape of the face is different, shape of the eyes are different, the way he talks is different. Wasn't Gunny. IMDB got it wrong.
His cover would have been blown first five minutes. Denis to use to being an officer. Did walk on left side of the office. Didn’t stand paraded rest when talking and a few other things. Not to mention Gunny is a high enlisted rank to not have people know you.
This is crazy as a Navy man I stood watch with Marines. Navy officers and Marines are different. This isn't believable. Well I like Harm and think he's a good Naval officer I doubt he could pull it off.
Marine recruits refer to Drill Instructors as “Sir!”. At the completion of Boot Camp Marines refer to NCO’s and Staff NCO’s by their rank, and “Sir” if deemed appropriate. Harm, as a slimy Boot, will refer to the Sergeant Major as “Sir!”. 😁🇺🇸 Semper Fi!
I don't believe that I've ever heard a Gunnery Sergeant addressed as "Guns." Gunny, sure. Gunnery Sergeant, yep. There were so many problems with not just this episode but the entire show that I usually laughed my ass off. The same goes for NCIS. For example, they'd dash from DC to Norfolk at the drop of a hat and bring people back to DC for interrogation. Evidently, the largest Navy base in the world has neither JAG nor NCIS offices. The idea Harm could just go and check out a fighter whenever he wanted. The idea of lawyers keeping pistols in their desks and getting into gun battles. And much much more.
Guns is only used if the forementioned Gunny allows it. Even Master Guns. I was in GITMO and My SSGT of S-6 comms wiremen called Gunny of Radiomen, Guns and Gunny called my SSGT just staff. I have only heard of one person who allowed certain people he respected to be referred to Master Guns.
My service time was 58 62 USN, at that time my assumption was any Sargent was a Gunnery Sgt. I was informed the Gunny was a Master Sgt. Then Gunny was made honest Gunnery Sgt. Who is a Gunnery Sgt?
@@redeyedmongoose2963 Actually it is R. Lee Ermey - www.imdb.com/title/tt0613264/characters/nm0000388 look at the chin on that close-up of him with Harm. and look at a picture of R. Lee Ermey and you'll see the same scar
In recruit training everyone is a sir or a ma’am. Until you become a marine, then you address enlisted as their rank and commissioned still as sir or ma’am.
The costume director needs to square away that raggedy looking campaign cover. The buckle is not centered above the forehead, and the leather is unpolished. I hate unsquared away actors pretending to be Marines.
What a load of crap. He could have this sergeant majors retirement cancelled and locked up for the way he treats him. Period. Typical television bull crap.
This is trash. A Force Recon GySgt showing up out of the blue would be stupid. It's such a small community. There are really only 2 Force Recon Companies in the Marines (not really counting 3rd Force...sorry) So do the math...that means there are about 20 0321 GySgts that have the quals to be in Force. They know each other. This is stupid. I always hated this show. Cheese fest.
@@napalmstickylikeglue The Navy initially refused to be part of production. Only in later seasons did they work with the show runners to try and get things accurate
You can tell this show is from the late 90's-early 00's. Today within the first 5 minutes at least 3 of those neighbors would have taken and posted pictures and videos of that little backyard Parris Island scene, and forever burned any chance Harm ever had of going undercover.
Not to mention the haircut and clothing
Such a (former?) Marine-Guy wouldn't live in the middle of some suburb, nope they'd probably live out in the countryside, so nobody there to take pictures (or call the police or something) :D
Also the DI was definitely not from the modern day. No Death Metal screaming.
Of course it was from the 90's!!
I wish this part was played by Gunny. Miss you Gunny.
Can you imagine the gunny going postal on harm
"Don't call me Sir. I work for a living."
The Marines are small force. All the long term Marines of the same rank and military specialty know each other. The chance of passing an under-cover off as a gunnery sergeant are slim to none.
It’s a tv show
Well considering there was a Sergeant Major who "trained" Rabb, he's not completely undercover.
You realize the Marines is 175k strong give or take, right?
I was Air Force over 14 years and work with marines and other services several times, stationed Okinawa as well…I’m not going to know everyone that knew them. Maybe the detachment CO like a CWO referred as Gunner. But not enlisted.
@@chapel3339 How many are Sergeant Major's?
Big difference between being a senior NCO and a commissioned officer.
Almost like comparing a mechanic to an engineer or architect.
"Not bad...
For the navy."
I'm not even military, and I felt that.
Marine Corps are the pawns. Navy is their Daddy. They just employ that “get tough” attitude because they have the lowest test scores, lowest IQs, worst tech / gear, and use an outmoded method of barbarian warfare
Army Combat Engineer back in 2012 era, this was good 😎👌
Folks may forget that NCIS is a spinoff of JAG
cuz of Don Bellisario created the show
Jesus it is a damn tv from the 90s chill, they definitely were not aiming to get everything right
R. Lee Ermery would have been a better guest appearance in my USMC opinion
This episode made me laugh so much when I watched it.
Damn Catherine Bell was fine as Hell!!
Reminds me of when I met "Gunney" he was a Vietnam vet (RIP)🙏
Guess they couldn't afford Lee Ermie
They couldn’t handle Gy Ermie! However, if the Cmdr went through AOCS, he should have remembered a few “Gunnys” he could emulate!
What a gorgeous lady.
How about aye aye sir and get a haircut Gunny. 😂😂😂
The "DI" is missing his EGA on his left brest pocket, and the major says she and the "gunny" both served in Bosnia but neither have a NATO medal, then the "gunny" walks on the right of the major instead of to her left.
You missed the part when he calls the DI sir.
lovely stuff
You can tell that the Gunny was having fun having power over an navel officer, but the while remaining professional about it.
J*A*G , Good Show. Semper-Fi.
CHIMO!
Great crew. Believable storyline.
I served in 2/9. No females.
I forgot how handsome DJE was in JAG. Needed to be shirtless more damn.
Yes true. He is so handsome
I guess I need to watch all of JAG, given I don't remember this
same here
Episode was Force Recon. One of my favorite episodes.
@@brianspellissy1936 yes, it was in reason 2
Love this serie love life military
Ok, if this was an undercover operation why would they put him somewhere where he can be compromised by people he knows. Also is he really supposed to soak up 20 years of Marine Corps life in an afternoon at some retired Sgt Maj's house with the entire neighborhood watching. Finally 2/9 is a battalion in an infantry regiment. It would not be commanded by a Captain.
I can't speak for a battalion, however our company commander in boot camp (Parris Island) was a 1st Lt.
The line companies in infantry battalions are generally commanded by a Captain. The Battalion XO is a Major and the Battalion CO is a LtCol. I was in 2/9 from February 1982 - September 1985 when it was at Camp Margarita, Camp Pendleton, CA. Later, 2/9 was deactivated and then later reactivated some years later at Camp Lejeune, NC. This is a normal occurrence during times of a drawdown/plus-up.
There were never any females in 2/9. I enjoyed JAG, but the military advisor for the show (if there even was one) should have been punched in the forehead. They seldom got anything right.
@@dancooper6447 yeah and if they had said or implied that the Captain was a company commander I would be cool with that. Of course this is the same show that sends has Harm routinely making carrier landings even though he hasn't been rated for them for years. And those are the least egregious mistakes
@@chadhunter4657 - True! Holly weird should do a little more research. I get it that it is only entertainment - and I have learned to laugh at it. Side note: 2/9 was never in Bosnia, either.
This guy is so limp there is no way he could ever have been a real DI. Where was Gunnery Sergeant Hartman when you needed him?
And you, POS, waste your "precious" time to comment on that "BS" 😂
Wasn't he training Harm for his undercover role?
He couldn't slug it out with an actual commissioned officer.
Good job
If the Marines had wanted that Mssgt to have a neck (or be able to bend it) they would have ISSUED him one! I know a few guys like this, and most are truly scary in their normal environment. That and I have NEVER seen a senior enlisted guy (like this) who would EVER need to report ANYTHING to the CO, they would handle it themselves (either personally, or via the Sargent's mafia ('how would like to spend the next 6 months inventorying the grease in the maintenance locker and standing weekend duty EVERY weekend?'). and rarely at that!
* That was a Sergeant Major in the Marine Corps is SMMC, not Mssgt
* Sergeant, not Sargent
Git down and gimme 20!
@@joebates3272 When I went through USN boot camp (yeah I know sar-major), they had just changed from NCO's using direct physical punishment to JUST PTing you till THEY got tired of watching you exercise! This did not prevent instructors from using their 'normal' conversational volume (as loud as they could yell to ensure you HEARD the instruction(s)) and distance (about the time his hat brim hit your chest!)! Our Company Commander was an extremely sharp Senior Chief Ship's Serviceman, named Olaes (this would turn out to be his last company, the CO of the NTC would deep dip him to be her new Master Chief of the Command about two weeks after we graduated). He was about 5'10' (if that) and most of the company was at LEAST that tall (I am 6'5, was actually the SECOND tallest in the company). I was suffering from a pair of matched ear infections (which would result in a 'no marching chit' eventually and doing my freedom run on a stationary bicycle) and would lose my balance at the drop of a hat (literally sometimes, having to look at my feet to keep from falling over). After a (well-deserved) ass chewing I (for the first time in nearly a dozen weeks in boot-camp) succumbed to the temptation and looked down at the top of the Senior Chief's hat. He had a note (on white paper (to partially hide I think) that said 'DON;T EVEN THINK ABOUT LOOKING DOWN AT ME!! LOOK STRAIGHT AHEAD! (ALONG WITH AN ADJECTIVE!!)' It was all I could do to NOT bust out laughing!
@@joebates32722nd Canadian Division 34 Combat Engineer Regiment back in 2012, CHIMO! 👌✌️😎
Hes right about one thing we offer info like a stone gives blood!!!
OooooRAH 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
God I love that show!
You must not have been a Marine or ever known one.
@@LouieNeiraCHIMO! Army Combat Engineer, Amen Devil Dog 😎👌
LT/COL is bear from American Pie 3 lol
He also played as Little John in Robin Hood Men In Tights
Does nobody else think it's crazy that mac expects to be told anything or that she's careless she says "good to see you again, like why does she not think beyond herself?
Anyone know who plays this marine? Imdb says it's R Lee Ermey, but it doesn't look or sound a thing like him
No, that's not Gunny, at all. I don't know who it is, but it ain't Gunny.
@@specialk9424 Actually, it was him. Looks a lot different when he shaves off his signature eyebrows. www.imdb.com/title/tt0613264/characters/nm0000388
@@nikkeisimmer8795 No, it wasn't. I know what it says on IMDB, but that wasn't Gunny. The voice is different, and shape of the face is different, shape of the eyes are different, the way he talks is different. Wasn't Gunny. IMDB got it wrong.
@@nikkeisimmer8795 Michael Alldredge
@@nikkeisimmer8795 Nope.
Haha! I did 4 years in Gco 2/9!!! Where were the females at!!
Who plays the Marine?
His cover would have been blown first five minutes. Denis to use to being an officer. Did walk on left side of the office. Didn’t stand paraded rest when talking and a few other things. Not to mention Gunny is a high enlisted rank to not have people know you.
Navy vs Marines.
This is crazy as a Navy man I stood watch with Marines. Navy officers and Marines are different. This isn't believable. Well I like Harm and think he's a good Naval officer I doubt he could pull it off.
Marines Are STILL PART of the NAVY whether the Corps likes it or not.
MARINES were on the British ships back in the colonial days.
His hair cut wouldn't cut as a Gunny.
and he should have been walking to the left of and one pace behind the officer
Sir???!!!?????
I thought Drill Instructors didn't want to be called "sir".
In the Marines and Air Force they do
If you’re a recruit, then I suggest you do!
@@juliohernandez6856 I was under the impression that drill sergeants see "sir" as a name for "no good officers".
@@The1980Philip you definitely never call an enlisted man sir in the fleet! During boot camp the first and last word out of your mouth better be sir!
@@juliohernandez6856 Ah, I see.
A sergeant that is called “sir”? That's something new! 😂
Recruits (harm in this case) are required to call everyone sir, including civilians, and ALL Marines
@@Opforo313 Sure. Call the Gunny sir and see how sore your ass gets.
@@shanehudson3995 Already did as a RECRUIT, as did all recruits.
Marine recruits refer to Drill Instructors as “Sir!”. At the completion of Boot Camp Marines refer to NCO’s and Staff NCO’s by their rank, and “Sir” if deemed appropriate. Harm, as a slimy Boot, will refer to the Sergeant Major as “Sir!”. 😁🇺🇸 Semper Fi!
Its nothing new, its never been new, nor will it ever be new. Its the Marine Boot Way.
I don't believe that I've ever heard a Gunnery Sergeant addressed as "Guns." Gunny, sure. Gunnery Sergeant, yep.
There were so many problems with not just this episode but the entire show that I usually laughed my ass off. The same goes for NCIS.
For example, they'd dash from DC to Norfolk at the drop of a hat and bring people back to DC for interrogation. Evidently, the largest Navy base in the world has neither JAG nor NCIS offices.
The idea Harm could just go and check out a fighter whenever he wanted.
The idea of lawyers keeping pistols in their desks and getting into gun battles.
And much much more.
Guns is only used if the forementioned Gunny allows it. Even Master Guns. I was in GITMO and My SSGT of S-6 comms wiremen called Gunny of Radiomen, Guns and Gunny called my SSGT just staff. I have only heard of one person who allowed certain people he respected to be referred to Master Guns.
My service time was 58 62 USN, at that time my assumption was any Sargent was a Gunnery Sgt. I was informed the Gunny was a Master Sgt. Then Gunny was made honest Gunnery Sgt. Who is a Gunnery Sgt?
A Gunnery Sgt. (or Gunny) is an E7. Three chevrons and two rockers. Master Sergeant is an E8. Three chevrons and three rockers. @@kk6aw
columbus tampa
Is this Gunnery Seargent Hartmen from Full Metal Jacket? Cool.
No
@@redeyedmongoose2963 Actually it is R. Lee Ermey - www.imdb.com/title/tt0613264/characters/nm0000388 look at the chin on that close-up of him with Harm. and look at a picture of R. Lee Ermey and you'll see the same scar
No its not the same guy. Emery never starred in JAG. Its a typo.
Every good undercover op starts with a demo for the entire neighborhood. 🙄
God this show is painful
And you, POS, waste your "precious" time to comment on that "BS" 😂
His hair is way too long, hell he shouldn't even have hair.
Why would you ever call a sergeant major a sir he is not enlisted you would refer to him as sergeant major
In recruit training everyone is a sir or a ma’am. Until you become a marine, then you address enlisted as their rank and commissioned still as sir or ma’am.
@@MorteFortuna89 I didn't realize at first he a Marine Im used to Army standards
Lord that woman! ❤❤❤❤❤
You are fine now eye color an feel to self
Ha, at least he didn’t pull navy and say sarge. He called him by his rank. Sargent major. Don’t forget it.
The costume director needs to square away that raggedy looking campaign cover. The buckle is not centered above the forehead, and the leather is unpolished. I hate unsquared away actors pretending to be Marines.
It's a small unimportant thing to regular people, but to those who actually served, it makes a Huge difference...
It's illegal to wear real uniforms for non militaries.
2:28 Who says "guns"? WTF. And it's been said before but the haircut is completely unsat. No way is he reporting for duty like that.
Pure cringe.
Such a disrespectful impersonation of R. Lee Emry. The actor has no command voice whatsoever. This show’s a slap in the face to all Marines.
Hahahahahahaha.
100 % LAME
And you, POS, waste your "precious" time to comment on that "BS" 😂
JAG was such BS. It was a combination of Top Gun and A Few Good Men, and borrowed from books like Red Cell.
And you, POS, waste your "precious" time to comment on that "BS" 😂
What a load of crap. He could have this sergeant majors retirement cancelled and locked up for the way he treats him. Period. Typical television bull crap.
And you, POS, waste your "precious" time to comment on that "BS" 😂
This is trash. A Force Recon GySgt showing up out of the blue would be stupid. It's such a small community. There are really only 2 Force Recon Companies in the Marines (not really counting 3rd Force...sorry) So do the math...that means there are about 20 0321 GySgts that have the quals to be in Force. They know each other. This is stupid. I always hated this show. Cheese fest.
Yeah they definitely skimped on the military advisors in the show. Or hired complete garbage.
@@napalmstickylikeglue The Navy initially refused to be part of production. Only in later seasons did they work with the show runners to try and get things accurate
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