Do Quakers celebrate Christmas? // Vlogmas 2019 Day 3
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It's always interesting to learn about Quakerism
Kcaj Does Stuff agree, she has soo many interesting fact in basically all the video :). Had no idea about the Quaker before knowing it by her :D
@Kcaj also Interesting if you Google "krampus". To see who santa clause really is
Quakerism seems like a very comforting religion
@Elizabeth D right. Like you find God within yourself which seems really nice
It's still a religion. ..
@Leen Atheism is not a religion. Religion is a belief system. Atheism is a lack of belief in a God/Gods.
Humanism not a religion but rather a philosophical view. You can be religious/ a thiest and a humanist. You can be an atheist and a humanist.
It is very comforting
@Leen Which part? I think the Athiesm part is non debatable.
I’m a Christian and was raised such, but my feeling is that most of Christmas is a cultural experience. The meaning is whatever you give it.
AnHeC huh
I'm Christian, and I agree Chris. There are so many branches of Christianity, each with their own traditions (of the ones who celebrate the holiday), that the meaning and practices are very subjective to one's own culture.
Yeah as an athiest who was raised Christian. I see it as more of a cultural thing.
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It could also be that some people watching her just don't have a TH-cam account for whatever reason so they can't subscribe! :0c But ya, you're explanation for this is really reasonable! I probably tried to hide the TH-cam channels I watched from my parents as well a few years ago(aka when I was much younger), lmao.
I usually just watch people for a while before I subscribe because I don't want to unsubscribe when I find out that I wouldn't want to watch most video's they post.
So her saying that actually made me subscribe because I didn't even realize that I wasn't subscribed yet 😁
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Yes yes yes!!! 👏
"You can't smell your own Christmas." --Jessica, 2019
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But you sure can smell your husbands if he ate Brussels sprouts 🤪😜
I love the idea of Quakerism, it seems like the most relaxed religion
Agreed🥰🦄
Yeah.
for me
i think islam is the only religion who really make us living in peace and love each other
if any one of you have a question pleas ask me
i will help you
and yuuup
that is all
do not believe what you see on tv
@@studygirl6160 lmao
@@studygirl6160 good joke
I'm right at the beginning just wanted to add
In Hebrew days are also just numbered (apart from Shabbat (Saturday) and in the bible (old testament) the months don't have names either and are referred to by number.
I just commented that too ! Hanukah sameach
@@ayellowpapercrown6750 lol great minds think alike. Hannuka Sameach to you
Same thing in Korean actually!
That's exactly how it works in Chinese too. The word for "Monday" is just 星期一 (day 1 of the week), and "January" is 一月 (first month)
there is actually Hebrew names for the months in the Hebrew calendar.
I wish more Christians were non judgemental and laid back. Your church sounds positively delightful
And yes to green sustainable pagan Christmas imagery 💚
I don’t think Quakers would be considered Christians (she even said as much in the video).
But there is a wide variety in Christian denominations and individuals. We aren’t all announcing our religion everywhere or judging or evangelizing. I frankly keep it to myself because people say things like your comment and I’m afraid of being judged based on the label Christian.
@@mschrisfrank2420 I think it's so hard to find the balance between sharing the gospel with others and forcing your religion it's a daily struggle for me!
So you like it because Quakerism isn't Christian...
@@szymongorczynski7621 while I can't speak for the op I think they are trying to say it is very different then for example the roman Catholic Church because there are less strict traditions and stuff idk tho
We’re in the middle of the season of people being amazed that I, a jew, don’t celebrate Christmas. Like... bruh....
Just to add an anecdote to your story, growing up, my two best friends were Jewish, and they celebrated Christmas, albeit the secular aspects of it. They put up a tree and decorated their houses with Santa Claus and snowmen and reindeer and twinkling lights...all that jazz. Their rationale was, Christmas is mostly a secular holiday nowadays anyway, and there's nothing religious about a man sliding down your chimney to deliver presents underneath a pine tree you've propped up in the living room. I couldn't find fault in their argument. You wouldn't see Christians celebrating Hanukkah, however, as there's no secular aspect to that holiday for non-Jews to partake in. I do love a good latke, though.
I'm an atheist, and I celebrate Christmas the exact same way. I love the music and the lights and the decorations and the food and the togetherness with friends and family. You don't need religious faith or even _Christian_ religious faith to enjoy that.
I'm not religious but my family is Jewish. I love the American tradition of going to a Chinese restaurant on Christmas and I am very sad that my favorite Asian buffet is no longer there.
Happy Early Hanukkah
Omg, people. I’m crying with laughter.
Happy Chanukah, for when it rolls around this year. Actually, you get to start celebrating before Christmas this year, right?
I mean know you don't celebrate Christmas but I mean Hanukkah is kind of like having 8 Christmases... Okay so not really but correct me if I'm wrong but do you get a present on each day or is that a myth.yes I'm aware that that's not what hanukkah's about but neither was Christmas and we still get presents.
It's so nice to see someone of another faith celebrating festivals that have pagan roots and actually noticing/accepting this without trying to cover it up. Another reason to love Jessica 💕
I've always found Quakerism interesting to learn about. Personally I'm not really religious, I believe that everything is sacred and nature is our provider (not a god but I realise the importance and power of nature) but I don't dismiss the idea of a higher being/deities etc but don't particularly worship any. I also celebrate most pagan festivals, mainly the esbats and equinox/solstices. So some kind of off the path paganism 🤷🏻♀️😂
what is an esbat?
@@HN-kr1nf I believe it's observing a full moon, kind of similar like how someone observes Thanksgiving or Christmas with a feast and celebrations.
@Fernsby Fox I agree. I am pagan and its nice to see my religion getting acknowledged instead of demonized for a change :)
@@HN-kr1nf It's the pagan term for a full moon :) and Cris also had it pretty accurate too. We tend to have a mini celebration, whether that's alone or with others. Usually involves putting crystals and tools out to charge, just looking at the moon and manifesting for the upcoming lunar month
@@opulentzinger Totally hear you! So many people start thinking I'm really odd when I tell them I'm pagan. They're like 'but you're such a nice person'
Perfect blend of strong religious identity and tolerance thanks Jessica!
I love your videos on Quakerism. It’s such a nice sounding group to me and I’ve genuinely found myself so interested in it since finding your channel.
I'm pagan/wiccan and I celebrate yule this time of year - I love that the pagan traditions are tied into Christmas, it makes it so much easier to celebrate my religion and not feel like I'm the odd one out! lots of greenery, food and honouring the season
Jessica, please keep doing quaker videos!!! There is so little Quaker content on youtube. It's a great way for young convinced friends like myself to stay engaged. Keep doing it!!!
3:26. The subtitles say “poor windows” not poor widows. 😃
Correctly I would say. There is a tax on windows don't you know!
Windows need attention, too.
But they also correctly picked up "anywho". I'm easily impressed.
In Hebrew the names of the days is literally “first, second, third”. The only exception is Saturday or the Sabbath that comes from the word strike or stop because it’s at this day that you need to stop working and rest.
"You can't smell your own Christmas." -Jessica Kellgren-Fozard, 2019
I'm a pagan so I celebrate Yuletide but quakerism is probably my favorite religion to research and interact with. They're such positive people generally.
Same!!! Pagan gang
@@butallislost ... pagang?
I am pagan to but we seem to be far and few between
@@jems824 you're absolutely right. How did i not get that
@@butallislost Thanks for giving me the opportunity to participate!
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Omg that was adorable I love it
The original quaker calendar is super interisting ! The Jewish/Hebrew calendar also works like that.
Sunday : yom rishon (first day)
Monday : yom sheni (second day)
Tuesday : yom shloshi (third day
Wednesday : yom revihi (fourth day)
Thursday : yom h’amishi (fifth day)
Friday : yol shishi (sixth day)
Saturday : yom shabbath (shabbos day !
Why aren't all religions more like Quakerism, I ask? The world would be a better place..
I'm not really religious but I love hearing about quakerism
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I went to a Quaker school and always loved the philosophy of everyone being equal and "That of God" or "That of good" in everyone.
I keep forgetting that it is vlogmas and then being super excited that Jessica posted again so soon.
I get that feeling, as a pagan that celebrates the sabbats/wheel of year its so refreshing to get in touch with that spiritual/religious core like you can try everyday but a special moment/day can be recharging
Jessica is honestly such a lovely human
The collar attached to the shirt or is it a separate thing?
And if it's a separate thing where do you get it?
Edit: It's a pearl collar sold by British Retro
Kait Eckles it looks like a separate piece.
Hello.From someone who knows how to crochet or how to make some other kind of lace.
I'm not religious at all but I celebrate christmas and halloween because they've both been secularized enough that religion doesn't have to be a part of it. Candy, dressing up, food and presents? Who isn't down for that? I can be atheist and still appreciate traditions and cultural practices as well as see a decorated tree and think it's beautiful and artistic. I just don't attach any god or goddesses to it. It's a tree with pretty lights. Family is coming over and bringing 10 tons of food. Atheists are't all party poopers who dislike any and all displays of religion.
You are always such a releif at the end of a school day! Thank you x
I'm Catholic and I adore hearing about others religions and how the celebrate the holidays. I also heard many similarities between how you practice quakerism and how I practice my faith (especially with sustainability and spreading peace) which is so comforting ❤️
Thank you for acknowledging the Pagan roots of Christian festivals. *hug
I’ve been looking forward to your Vlogmas so much! Really helps put me in the festive spirit. Loving every minute so far - I love your singular take on life, and I enjoy learning more about your Quaker beliefs. So interesting!
*Quakerism:* We all have different practices and beliefs.
*Unitarian Universalism:* Hold my flaming chalice.
Oh, that's good!
Haha! I used to be a UU. That's great. I've also been to a Quaker summer camp. Ideals seem pretty similar, but worship styles are different, and Quakers seem politically more free.
@@corymartino8283 I'm not sure what you mean by "Quakers seem politically more free." There is nothing in UUism that says "Thou shalt" or "Thou shalt not."
@@R.F.9847 By political I don't mean anything related to the church. I mean politics. Like, I've heard quakers say that liberalism is kind of shoved down peple's throats in UUism, and I feel like there's instances where that happens. The Quakers I've been around have run the gamut a bit more.
As a Unitarian this gave me a chuckle.
Christmas Merch- “You can’t smell your own Christmas”
I find it so weird that when I first saw Jessica's videos, I didn't know what a quaker is
now I'm occasionally watching, I get reminded that she IS one and now I've been studying it quite a lot over the years
Honestly, your voice is the only ASMR I need in my life. All your videos are so soothing, relaxing, and informative. Thank you for simply existing. 😊
I loved this, personally I identify as Catholic but I absolutely love hearing about what other people believe in without the judgement of other religions. I always try to listen to what people say and understand their point of view without pushing my own beliefs on them. Which is what I think you've done beautifully here, Thankyou for this video 10/10 😍😍😍
Love the season....I celebrate the Solstice....gratitude for the spirit ofancestors who went before and the beauty of the returning light that is within us all. Relatively pagen.
I like how you also respect pagans, I'm pagan and most Christians in the usa (well older Christians) treat us like we are evil. Thank you for not thinking we are evil ❤ Quakers seem really cool.
I go to a Quaker college and have been considering learning more about the religion and potentially exploring more of what it's about. Thank you for the great video!
I’m a Wiccan and have been for well over 10 years at this point I celebrate Yule as well as Christmas because of family, but in recent months I’ve came to the conclusion that possibly in another life (if you believe in that sort of thing) that I could happily be a Quaker. While it’s not for me in this life who knows what’s next so this very well could be what I lean towards eventually. I love the fact that it’s a well deserved break and breath of fresh air from the whole of ceremonial Evangelical beliefs that exist today and tend to focus more on conversion and at times within the last 40 years, violence by a select few people towards others who don’t agree with this. It’s a lot more friendly, accepting, streamlined and in ways less complicated and flashy than a lot of modern Bible based religions and beliefs which deserves a ton of respect in itself.
You might enjoy "Atheist christmas carol" by Vienna Teng. It's very reverent and warm. Also I loved your observations on the nature aspects!
Not religious but every time you make a video on this topic I actually want to listen and learn. As some people have said this seems like such an accepting and versatile religion. “You do you” is amazing and doesn’t make me feel bad for watching and not being a Quaker 😅
Thank you for always bringing different views to a platform like TH-cam and having a safe space for people to learn.
I aspire to be as pure and wholesome and accepting as Jessica
I love learning about different beliefs, thanks so much for sharing and explaining. As a pagan I just love knowledge, and understanding others, it's fills the world with more love x
"you can't smell your own Christmas: is the quote of the season
Your videos about religion and politics are always so insightful and well structured!! I absolutely love your explanations or thoughts about this kind of topics! Thank you so much for all your hard work!!! 💖💖
0:35 You think you're an elf? You just look seasonally stylish 😍 or you're the most beautiful elf alive 🎶🥰💫
You unrolled that piece of paper so smoothly 😍
i had to come back to this video after "Public Universal Friend" trended on twitter, quakerism seems so comfortable and nice, seems as though they are always on the right side of history!
I love your philosophy on religiosity and God and celebration/holidays etc. thanks for this!! ♥️
Thank you for this video Jessica. I love a good ponder on meanings! I agree with the idea that it's nice to make life meaningful and appreciate the gift of getting to be alive, I think adversity can really bring that into focus. Personally, I celebrate the summer solstice, because it makes sense to be joyful on the longest brightest day of the year! And at midwinter, I celebrate the darkest longest night, and the knoedge that the spark of light will return with longer days and warmth, as a metaphor for life too. At Christmas, because I live in nz, but we do a family christmas in the garden, and I enjoy the picnic food, relaxing, and appreciation through small gifts my family does. I really appreciate how open and relatable you make your spiritual questions, I guess that's a reflection of the non judgement of the quaker philosophy, the encouragemnt and trust to speak your mind and also listen to others genuinely too. My dad was a quaker for years, and I'm realising how much of what you say is familiar through him parenting me. Anyway, all the best
Hello. Hi. I love your videos. Mmm...cake. Also what has been your favourite Christmas ad of all time? Mine is Man on the moon John Lewis advert. It just gives me so much
nostalgia.
It's really interesting to hear about some Quaker views on Christmas, as someone who was brought up atheist and went to a Christian school but turned out to be neither. I really enjoy hearing about how everyone celebrates things differently.
I believe my grandmother is quaker. I'm not entirely sure though. But she donates money each Christmas, and gives the grandchildren some money. One year my mum adopted some chickens through oxfam for her and she said it was the best present she's ever received.
I think it's a collab with either Stevie Boebi or Molly Burke...I'd really like to hear about what books you read/ audio books you listened to this year and how you liked them or chose them
Thank you for enlightening me on the Quaker religious practices. You opened my eyes to aspects I never knew of. Like you, I find myself in the middle when it comes to Christmas, balancing the religious & festive ( or 'commercial') goings on. The one overall concept I never waver on is the act of giving. Whether it be monetary donations or food donations or clothing donations or donating my time ... I truly enjoy giving of what I have and/or can. Sharing something that helps achieve a happiness for another is what I have & always will cherish, not just during the holidays but year round. I believe it to be healthy and fulfilling to celebrate traditions. As the saying goes, "Peace on Earth, goodwill towards men." 🤔 Perhaps it's time to alter that. How about: "Peace on Earth, goodwill to ALL"
Thank you for the video, Jessica. #Vlogmas is off to a fantastic start. Maybe for a future Vlogmas video you could discuss any traditions you & Claudia share, or any the two of you wish to begin. Thanks again! Take care!! 👍🤟💝
I am subscribed and I am obsessed with your vintagenesss....... I want to live in your era
Early for once woo! Not big on religion but Quakerism sounds like a very nice one:)) always interesting to find out about it
As someone who doesn't celebrate Christmas in the standard sense, being Jewish, I really enjoyed seeing how you as a Non-Christian or a Non-Standard Christian that's different from what you see in the media. I personally do celebrate with family members because they have chosen to not embrace Judaism, which is their right, but they have chosen to celebrate Christmas secularly. So I buy them gifts for Christmas and we spend time together and we also visit other family. I just love hearing about all the different ways the holiday seasons are celebrated by different people.
Thank you for the blog as and the idea of the “prompts” in the advent house!
A “tenet” is a belief. A “tenement” is a large housing project (with a rundown connotation in the US). Both have a root from “tenere”, to hold.
Given that if the Christ-child did indeed exist, then he was not born on the 25th of December, but sometime in march. The sole reason Christmas is celebrated at that time that it is, is due to the pagan rites of rebirth and renewal associated with the 'death' of the sun on the shortest day of the year and the feasting associated with the defiance of the scarcity of resources.
Honestly Christmas season use to be a time where I would spoil my family with multiple unique gifts and also celebrate baby Jesus and the virgins Mary’s birthday (raised catholic) but now this year I lost my job with no real hope soon, I’m finally made to rethink it all, I do appreciate time with my family with food. So Christmas means a time to gather and share a piece of each other’s stories from the year and really get to understand each other.
I love learning more about Quakerism, and I can really get behind the core values. Jessica is my favourite TH-cam Professor.
This was a really enjoyable video I’m a UK based Unitarian (not to be confused with the slightly different US UU church) so much of this is the same but we do services a little more classic Protestanty. Our minister often refers to quakers as our sister church :)
Maybe not for vlogmas... but several of your videos where Quakerism comes up have made me wonder/question how my own beliefs would fit into it, and how compatible they are. It's been enlightening... Thank you
I really love the discussion about quakerism and sustainability and would love to hear more about sustainability, particularly in regards to Claudia's newfound obsession with her carbon footprint. you guys are so cute thank you for making my exam study breaks so lovely
Noted, thank you for the suggestion! x
Yas 👏 finally early 🙌 notification squad here we go!
mabey talk about the return of eugenics. mabey talk about self care, disablity and quakerism how selflesness and self care works.
I'm a Methodist myself, but have the good fortune of working alongside some freaking awesome Quakers, who are all lovely. All the Quakers that I've met are such amazing social justice warriors too, anything to promote equality they are on it. Awesome people.
Though every October/November I sit back and watch Quakers vs (usually) Anglicans in the war of the white poppy.
As a Buddhist I find Quakerism quite similar in a lot of ways. Great video!
If you want to see a Christmas movie in which the only crying you will be doing during the church scenes will be crying from laughter, check out "While You Were Sleeping." The movie is funny and charming as a whole, and the scenes in churches or hospital chapels are no exception.
I went to the Unitarian Universalist church when I was a kid, I didn't keep up with it, but it seems to have a LOT in common with Quakerism
We started going to our local quaker meetings for worship after watching your videos explaining quakerism and next year we will be renewing our vows for our 5th anniversary in quaker fashion also recognising my wife as in he past two years she has come out as trans
It’d be really interesting to hear more about Quakerism and environmentalism! I’ve met Quakers at climate justice events but didn’t realise its importance
Great video as always!
I like the way you made Quakerism sound. Now I'm going to look into it more. I have lots of questions now
I love finding fellow Friends!!! Especially Spoonie Friends!
Your videos are so great an informative! I’ve been wanting to go to a quaker church for months but there aren’t really any where I live now, but I’m moving to California so I’m hoping I can find some better faith resources :)
Your friends are so amazing for a) making claudia's birthday cake and b) making it so that you can eat it 😊 it's so sweet I can't even 😍😂
When she said “I can see the analytics... you watch my videos often and you haven’t yet subscribed”... 🤭 yeah I clicked that subscribe button quickly
Hahaha totally called out in the beginning for not being subscribed though I’m a regular viewer. I thought I was already, and now I feel ashamed, haha!
quakerism sounds like basically secular humanism with a God element. As an atheist myself, I would love for the world to be more quaker like. It seems to be the only religion that appreciates nuances, grey areas and individuality.
That laugh at 11:35 😂
Greetings from Hong Kong 🇭🇰❤️
💗 peace and love to you this holiday season ☮️
Stay strong
I love the blooper reels at the end of your videos! Also I love it when you talk about Quakerism, its the one religion that I feel some sort of connection to - like I could really see myself wanting to learn more and more about how Quakerism works idk how to it explain it, except to say please do keep talking about your religion!!
You are just the sweetest person!
Imagine myself telling my fundamentalist Christian Grandma that Christmas is a pagan holiday and isn’t in the Bible so it’s a man made holiday and since man is sinful, Christmas is sinful. She would lose it.
Waited soo freaking long for those Christmas videos *_* Question... will still be possible to send you something in your Dropbox this year or next one? I live in Denmark but I will go in Italy for the holiday and I think I will buy some gluten&sugar free products for you as a thank for cheer my days with your videos!!! If you don’t mind :3
This was a wonderful video! I love hearing about other people's beliefs. I especially liked the "you can't smell your own Christmas" bit. What an important thing to remember. It is easy to identify other people's traditions, beliefs, and biases that are different from our own experience. This season is a great time to take a moment to "smell our own Christmas" - examine why we think, believe, and act the way we do and be genuinely interested in why others think, believe, and act the way they do. In fact, that sounds like a great tradition everyone can enjoy. Maybe every year we should learn about a different culture/religion and celebrate with them.
I loved this video, but I also spent most of it distracted wondering where Jessica got that cool pearl-collared sweater.
The necklace is from British Retro x
Ahh thank you so much for this video! I am a recent convert to Quakerism from Catholicism (/atheism lol) and it's sometimes very confusing 😅😅
You should make a vlogmas vlog about a day in your life. From the time you get up to when you go to bed. It would be interesting to see what a Jessica day would be like!
Is Claudia a Quaker as well ? If not how do you incorporate her traditions with yours ? Good video .
I love this style of video, I think it's one of my favorites.
I want more "Jessica thinks outloud about topics."
Thank you it's always fun to learn something new.
Christmas gives me hope.
"the third day of the twelve month" is usually how it is said in the arabic. We do have names for the months but none of my relatives really remember them. Also the days of the week go by numbers too, Sunday being the first day. So people don't get confused, the days of the week are the names of the numbers pronounced a bit differently. (The numbers are where the names of the days of the week originate).
I'm Christian and attend a Candle Light service every year for Christmas. I enjoyed your video Merry Christmas!
Primer comentario en Español :,-)
muy bien
I found what you said about being religious and leaving behind the religious part very interesting. I'm an American Quaker (I go to an unprogrammed meeting) and I see that a lot here. Some of even our Elders (though I think we use the term differently) are not sure if they believe in God as a being so we are always careful to use the Light in place of God, or at least say both. It something that troubles my mother (she was raised Christian and now attends meeting every now and then) and leads me to deep thought. For us, and I think it's fairly common in non pastoral unprogrammed American Quaker meetings, we don't think God has to be named as such or tied specifically to Christianity, though we recognize it to be the origin of our religion. Personally, I tend to use God-language and see the Light as our own internal manifestation of God. I hold no judgement, only interest in Quakers who do not believe in God (whether as a literal being or the spirit who guides us), but without a God Quakerism does seem to veer more into "spiritualism" than a religion which is how many of my friends try to rationalize Quakerism when I explain it to them. But like most Quakers I talk myself into circles because of course who am I to decide what is religion? I love watching your Quakerism videos because I like to see how it's practiced differently in the UK! In my meeting we tend to make note or do little activities after worship for all major holidays regardless of the religion, though Christmas does tend to get a bit more attention. Is it the same way in the UK? I get the sense from your videos that Quakerism there is still more solidly rooted in Christianity.
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