We finally got our new light kit to fill in the background (took like a month). We still need some gels to get the colour temperature the same as our Kinos though...
Everywhere I look I seem to see Linus, good to see someone become so recognizable with accurate and well informed tech information. Keep up the good work Linus!
+thechannelitrollwith Yeah, also reacted the same. But, I just thought to myself: there's probably a cushion off-camera underneath Linus. Hehe. Cuz I don't think he's that insane to do that to a GALAXY GTX 680 without any insurance.
+Jeff Fassbender Actually, he's done stupider things in his videos, so I wouldn't be too sure. I don't think he respects the tech as much as he should. He probably gets a lot of stuff for free from sponsors or whatever so doesn't care as much I guess.
VA is clearly the best, as it has the most advantages with the least amount of disadvantages. TN: + Fastest response times + Most inexpensive - Awful viewing angles - Awful gamma/color shift from top to bottom, even if viewed from straight on - Sub-par colors and color accuracy - Sub-par contrast/black levels IPS: + Most color accurate + Best viewing angles - Slow response times - Awful contrast/black levels - Awful IPS glow on dark scenes - Most vulnerable to backlight bleeding - Suffers from image retention or temporary burn-in VA: + Best contrast/black levels + Great viewing angles (although not as good as IPS) + Can be even more color accurate than IPS (i.e. with Quantum Dot) + Very little to no backlight bleeding or glow - Slow response times, similar to IPS - Suffers from minor gamma shift (nowhere near as severe as TN)
I was looking for a va monitor too. I just purchased a dell 4k ips and it did not fit for what I was doing because since I develop I need the black to be real black. Ips doesn't have inky black what va does. I usually sit like 2 feet away from monitor so which one is better please help me choose one. Both are VA, one is 350$ for 2k 32in and the other is 4k 32in quantom dot for 600$. Both are samsung, good for eyes, but will the 4k be more worth it? will it make the text and code more crisp. I wanted to ask because its a 250$ difference. Thanks for helping. www.amazon.com/Samsung-WQHD-LED-Monitor-S32D850T/dp/B00L3KNOF4/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8 www.amazon.com/Samsung-U32H850UMN-Desktop-3840X2160-Warranty/dp/B071Y6SWGT/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pl_foot_top?ie=UTF8
I actually own and am using the U32H850UMN right now. It's a fantastic monitor and one of the best I've ever used in terms of color and black levels. I am not familiar with the S32D850T, but it doesn't appear to have Quantum Dot so you'll lose out on the wider range of colors. The PPI on the 4K will be also be a lot higher. Just make sure you turn on some amount of scaling (full native 4K resolution on a 32" is still too small to be usable IMO). On mine I have it set to Retina/HiDPI WQHD resolution (2560 x 1440), so the text are razor sharp and it looks just jaw dropping. Worth the extra $250 for the wider colors, higher resolution and PPI will be up to you decide. You might want to also check out the 32" and 27" CHG70 series. They are only WQHD resolution, but they have a much higher refresh rate (144Hz), has HDR and in my experience can go a lot higher on brightness. They are curved however so they might not work best for mainly photo production.
ok since I am a developer I use my monitor a lot. Which monitor would the contrast be higher. What is quantum dot is it aimed for photographers or gamers. I just want a monitor with deep blacks and sharp text. Wouldn't 4k have more clearer text and btw i am not in for gaming just office use, so curve is a no for me. Also by the way i confirmed this monitor is a va, quantum dot monitor. I wanted to state that I only care for the deep blacks, text razor sharp, and color production which is also good I heard with Quantum dot. The thing is with Quantum dot technology will you loose the deep blacks like in your monitor This is a persons review on this monitor: you can skip to 10:25 where he talks about the blacks of the monitor. Can you actually check that does your monitor have more or less bleed than this one. THANKS alot th-cam.com/video/RWFs-7fEbeE/w-d-xo.html Monitor is samsung website www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/32--uh850-uhd-monitor-with-quantum-dot-lu32h850umnxza/
I ordered four of these monitors and only one out of the four had actual backlight bleed. The rest are perfect, but you will need to be viewing the monitor at straight eye level. Severe deviation and you will get some minor light glow from the corners, sides, etc. This isn't bleed, but more of a viewing angle problem. Again, when viewed straight on, a black screen is pretty much pure black. The contrast/black levels are excellent, way deeper than any IPS or TN monitor I've used. You can get razor sharp text if you turn on scaling (even to 120% on Windows) or use a Retina/HiDPI resolution on a Mac. Quantum Dot just extends the range of colors (wider gamut), so reds will be more red, greens will be more green, etc. The monitor comes professional factory calibrated so yes, the colors are very accurate. You can always tone down the colors if the saturation is too high. Good luck!
Didn't mention the awful black levels (ie grey) of IPS. It's much more important to be able to see details in a night scene than to care about an extra 6ms response time or that extra 4% of the sRGB colour space.
+other tomperson Yeah, I'm thinking of getting a new monitor soon, and that's what I'm worried about with the new Philips 43" 4K monitor which is IPS. So I may just go for the previous 40" 4K VA one, as I watch a lot of movies and black levels are important to me.
Johnny Boy I use the Samsung JU6400 TV when I want to lay back and watch a film, or play a game with a controller. It's 4K, 40" (though they have a range of sizes), VA, and with Game Mode on it's a fantastic gaming monitor and not too expensive either. My parents have an IPS TV and for me VA is definitely the way forward until OLED becomes affordable.
I ended up getting the Wasabi Mango UHD400 monitor. Good colour, contrast and blacks :) So much better than my previous TN monitor which had crappy contrast and washed out blacks. (unless you lowered the brightness in Nvidia Control Panel, causing you to lose detail in night scenes)
Can't stop to be amazed that in 7 years (2020), we got for example a 1ms 360HZ IPS monitor, 144HZ 4K monitors, HDR, 49 inch monitors, Oled... and so many variety to the monitor market, that would make this Linus grow a viking beard... Yeah, we got a Beard Linus in 2020
Love you Linus! Been watching all your videos since you started and I'm always impressed. The videography on the TechQuickie channel is superb keep it up!
First time I've seen any of your videos. Very fast explanations, which is why I came here. Thank you! (And, yeah, your playing with that 680 had my heart skipping beats!)
So gamers who want 120hz + are stuck with the inferior screen type in terms of contrast ratios and color accuracy? That sucks. No ISP or PLS panels with low latency and high refresh rates? Damn.
You'd think that instead of coming out with all this 4K and 5K crap, electronics companies would manufacture more decent monitors that are both fast AND color accurate. So far only Asus and Phillips (and I think Acer?) have FINALLY gotten around to it. Utter nonsense!
I don't know if you are still in the market for a monitor, but Mikihara reminded me that there is a 1440p 144hz IPS G-Sync monitor by Acer coming out soon called the Acer XB270HU.
I had been very unhappy with my TN monitor, a Samsung S24D300HL. While it really was super responsive (remarkably so) and provided rather vivid colours, literally everything else about it was irredeemably awful. No brightness consistency across the screen, limited viewing angles and, most disappointingly, exceptionally bad "blacks", which were hardly even dark grays. However, I didn't really know what else to get, or more specifically, whether a different panel type would even solve my issues. This video pointed me in the direction of VAs, so I read up on the technology, compared a few devices and ultimately decided on an inexpensive BenQ VW2430H just to try it out. I'm really happy with this decision, so I just wanted to thank you for your informative video. It really helped me out.
Have you thought about calling the episodes Tech Quickie along with the channel instead of "As Fast as Possible"? I feel like it would be more fitting for this series.
A great video. I just hope that you will keep updating once new panels/options come out. Thats the one thing missing online, there is a lot of information but when you want to buy something new you just have to do research for a day or so.
I still have no idea how IPS works... those videos were really low quality back in 2013 and still were the best videos in that time, that's how much YT video-quality grew the past 8 years
I don't get people who say "oh ill buy a TN panel because its faster for games"....seriously ive tested a 1ms TN vs a 5ms IPS and the difference in motion blur is negligible at best! difference in input lag is also negligible. But the difference between TN's inferior colours and viewing angles compared to those on an IPS is night and day! I used to be a fan of TN until I was completely blown away by IPS. I cant even handle the site of TN anymore. once you experience IPS you'll NEVER go back to TN regardless of whether or not you're a gamer or graphic designer.
+iamthewizard2 well, i used a 60hz IPS tv as a monitor for 3 years, and now i'm on a 144hz TN panel. here's my two cents: black are SO MUCH WORSE. color is also much worse but input lag is godly better. uncomparably. also using 144hz for a day will make you never want to go back to 60hz. it seriously looks what 30hz looks like if you're used to 60hz.
I'm honestly considering going back to CRT. Who cares how bulky it is if it's fast, has good contrast and looks the same from any angle? LCDs are a constant compromise.
ha! still rocking my NEC fe1250+ 1600x1200 @ 85hz . none of my friends lcd monitors can hold a flame against this 22" (square) 87lb beast. but omg the picture. plus, if I have to, i can drop down to 1280x1024 with no loss in image quality.
srba filipovic I live my whole pathetic life looking at a monitor. Half of that at a CRT. People always prophecize me losing my vision or even going blind. I know for a fact from experience that monitors don't damage your eyes. Medical chekups never found any worsening in my vision in my whole life. Perfect vision still.
I don't know what my monitor falls under to be honest. Interesting, I think I will do some research on these different types of monitors. Good video Linus. Thanks.
Yeah. I've found response time to be a sort of fuzzy spec, there's no standard way of measuring it. Like contrast ratio, it's a spec that can largely be ignored from what I've seen.
whats wrong with motion blur? if anything its more realistic...things blur when going fast lol. wave your hand infront of your face. you will see what i mean. and the input lag is between 2-3ms difference.So the effect is quite small.
Ithink it looks pretty cool, but still tend to set it at medium on Crysis. Most control freaks seems 2 dislike it for reasons like Pervy just mentioned though.
Shod even be good in movies, when like cars drive by fast, if u want to see them more clearly u just switch on ULMB physcial button directly on the monitor.. kinda neat ;)
For graphics design IPS is mandatory. I recently upgraded from a TN to an IPS and the difference is like night and day. Especially if you have them side, by side.
What motion blur? because " motion blur " is not the correct terms for Ghosting. Dude Response time is number 1 useless specs on monitor because there's no real standard on how to measure it and every manufacture measure it very differently from each other.And on top of that no one can see 4ms or 1ms or even 8ms pixel movement.This myth always survive till now because when the first IPS technology is launched they has a very slow response time.But now IPS can achieve 144hz frequency just like TN. So if u can spot a ghosting on 4ms response time then i dont believe u. try this then to prove it www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime . and the terms " GREY on GREY 2 GREY" "GREY" means color. Not the grey color we know. and manufacture use different color to measure the g2g response time.
CRT always better than TN OR IPS. In terms of response time. But ghosting always happen and u can see if u use high speed camera. But if u dont, i am 100% sure u wont be able to notice it even at slowest IPS panel when gaming. E-sport use TN because of marketing BS.They ate PIE from manufacturer that make some products labeled as" GAMING ". From chair to headset,glasses pffttt and other peripherals. And if u are saying that. "Even IPS with 4Ms responce & 144Hz gray to gray just dont perform as they should. It's the limatations of IPS " And so the TN. Their G2G response time dont perform as they should because there's no real standard for that and every manufacturer measured it very differently. take a look at this. u.cubeupload.com/Glenwing/ResponseTime2.png that is the benchmark from glenwing an LTT display expert. which clearly shows a 12ms PLS monitor more or less equalling a TN 5ms monitor from another vendor. Motion blur and slow response time in IPS panel are thing of the past.
***** you dont capture an image of moving object on monitor because it always looks blurry unless u are using special camera like phantom camera in video format. Its because u never use a good IPS monitor. according to glenwing benchmark. a 12ms IPS from samsung monitor has a better response time than 5 ms TN. A good TN panel will have a slightly good color reproduction than ordinary TN but will never be as good and vibrant as IPS. That is depends on what backlight u are using. If u buy a budget monitor it will often has edge lit backlight and backlight bleeding often happen with edge lit monitor. But if u buy a monitor with Full array led backlight then its rare for it to have such problem.
***** Dude i own a computer store and i am not one of those crazy salesman moment. i know what i am selling. and i think people should stop saying that IPS arent great for gaming.Because they are not anymore. Which IPS monitor did u have? Yeah u should buy a modern IPS and if u are new on display technology i suggest u to sign up to LTT and asking around under display section the awesome community will help u out or PM me username Thread212 or just learn from wikipedia or Tft central. I mean seriously. IPS is not what people thinks anymore. They are getting much better now. i mean much more better.
What bothers me the most about ips panels is, they have poor contrast ratio. The VA panels have deeper blacks. I can't believe the jackass in the video didn't mention the downside of a ips panel.
@ Online_J .... its for eyefinity/nvidia surround.. or more known as triple monitor gaming.. u have t put ang angle to the monitors on side so technically your kinda viewing them sideways
I would suggest using a color tuning device, as Linus showed a couple of videos ago, they are often cheap, and will accurately adjust monitor color, specially on main branded ones, such as your dell.
I know, I know, and if you can afford even an entry level one then you probably don't care spending the tiny difference in electricity bill, that's why I said it was only a slight disadvantage, 15% more power matters a bit more in ultra/notebooks though.
As short as possible: I switched from a TN monitor to a 144hz ips monitor and keep getting eyestrain and headaches since 4 days. New monitor settings very similar if not the same to my previous monitor which was also a benq just not the same panel, even tough same symptoms after 1-2 hours of use… Would highly appreciate advice or any kind of ideas that might help me out or fix the issue!
Just bought a month ago the very best gaming monitor (BenQ XL2420Z) for 392$CAD but since I've seen my mom's (iPad Air) which is 2560x1440 IPS on 9.7", I really feel like changing my secondary monitor (BenQ GW2450) which I was using for photo editing. I still consider it the very best value at only 160$ for 1080P since A-MVA have a 3x higher static contrast ratio than TN and IPS but it's viewing angles fall between these 2 other technologies. Now I'm looking at one of the Korean 2560x1440 27" IPS between 300-380$ as those sold in America are total rip off that cost much much more even if it has the same LG or Samsung panel inside (-_-) but I still say the BenQ above is unbeatable at this price and is even gaming-proof for 60-71Hz as even a 1ms TN will suck if it's only at 60Hz. Hell... even a 144Hz TN is crap compare to those with strobbing such as my new Z series.
id recomend an asus tn like the vg236h which is well made and colours are perfect with minimal tinkering. The whole wider viewing angles(blown out of proportion as most people are in front of their monitor and the difference between the two is only obvious when you get to extreme angles) and colours is total bs. Ive owned both tn and ips and unless you want resolutions above 1080p tn is the way to go. The colours on tn are very good and they have MUCH depper blacks look into ips black glow.
@SpinnerSpencerTech I second this! also, does that mean as gamers we should get a tn? I want a nice monitor but don't want the narrow viewing angles. should we wait for newer technology before we invest a bit into a nice monitor with great viewing angles and fast reaponse and great picture?
for those who are impatient for the video, which may not even be coming, i will give an explanation. Get however much RAM you need for what you do (web browsing/microsoft office is around 4 GB for a standard user, games are about 6gb and other stuff can go up from there). Speed really doesn't matter above 1600mhz, Don't waste your money, you won't notice. DDR/DDR2/DDR3 are not cross compatible. Try to match RAM as closely with each other as possible (same size, speed, brand, model if possible).
Dell S2716DGR is a very good tn monitor for gaming with only 1 ms response time ,1440p ,with a 27 inch screen with g-sync only for 449 on best buy can`t beat that.
He seems like he knows what hes talking about. He should start his own channel.
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Yeah he looks like he can give tech tips pretty good
aww man i came to rwoosh someone lmfaoo
Diesel informs me that he did use chroma keying... My bad. Not sure why he needed it when ili was on a white background...
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lmao what is this
whoah! only 12 likes even after 7 years
Only 7 replies and 15 likes after 7 years
lmao all from 2020
lol, old linus videos. Please update this topic in a new TechQuickie.
I would also love an updated video but for now I’ll look somewhere else
Are we sure it's Linus, he didn't drop that grpahics card! :)
^ this
@ILUZIONIST Now the samsung G7 odyssey comes out which is a 240hz, 1ms, VA panel. LOL Technology doesn't stop evolving.
@ILUZIONIST VA has good contrast and blacks though
So isn't the TN better for privacy?
+Claud Ka Kei Yeung LOL!
+loneventhorizon bahahahahahah awesome idea!
+Claud Ka Kei Yeung so ips should be called the exhibitionist lol
lol during my time of using terrible monitors that has never came in my mind XDDD
No since it had wide angles.. vertically it doesn't so viewing close looks weird from eye angle.
2:10 he is really good at holding things. I wonder if he has ever dropped something
We finally got our new light kit to fill in the background (took like a month). We still need some gels to get the colour temperature the same as our Kinos though...
Any update on this?
Update this episode please thanks
Everywhere I look I seem to see Linus, good to see someone become so recognizable with accurate and well informed tech information. Keep up the good work Linus!
Linus should do an Updated Video about this in 2019 or 2020.
2021!!
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Va my favourite because of those exceptionally good blacks
SmileMonster08 lol
Now people even think va blacks are shit compared to oled lol
@@SuperD00D well, their price justifies it..
dats Raysis
Ecktor WOW
0:42 now we have the samsung g9
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Even here horizon, even here
lol i literally reacted and yelled, "THAT'S A FUCKING 680, YOU CRAZY!"
Oh, Linus.
+thechannelitrollwith ^^
+thechannelitrollwith Yeah, also reacted the same. But, I just thought to myself: there's probably a cushion off-camera underneath Linus. Hehe. Cuz I don't think he's that insane to do that to a GALAXY GTX 680 without any insurance.
+Jeff Fassbender Actually, he's done stupider things in his videos, so I wouldn't be too sure.
I don't think he respects the tech as much as he should. He probably gets a lot of stuff for free from sponsors or whatever so doesn't care as much I guess.
gtx 680 isn't that good anyways, gtx 1080 crushes it
bro,look at video release,at that time gtx 680 is like 1080 lol
VA is clearly the best, as it has the most advantages with the least amount of disadvantages.
TN:
+ Fastest response times
+ Most inexpensive
- Awful viewing angles
- Awful gamma/color shift from top to bottom, even if viewed from straight on
- Sub-par colors and color accuracy
- Sub-par contrast/black levels
IPS:
+ Most color accurate
+ Best viewing angles
- Slow response times
- Awful contrast/black levels
- Awful IPS glow on dark scenes
- Most vulnerable to backlight bleeding
- Suffers from image retention or temporary burn-in
VA:
+ Best contrast/black levels
+ Great viewing angles (although not as good as IPS)
+ Can be even more color accurate than IPS (i.e. with Quantum Dot)
+ Very little to no backlight bleeding or glow
- Slow response times, similar to IPS
- Suffers from minor gamma shift (nowhere near as severe as TN)
I was looking for a va monitor too. I just purchased a dell 4k ips and it did not fit for what I was doing because since I develop I need the black to be real black. Ips doesn't have inky black what va does. I usually sit like 2 feet away from monitor so which one is better please help me choose one. Both are VA, one is 350$ for 2k 32in and the other is 4k 32in quantom dot for 600$. Both are samsung, good for eyes, but will the 4k be more worth it? will it make the text and code more crisp. I wanted to ask because its a 250$ difference. Thanks for helping.
www.amazon.com/Samsung-WQHD-LED-Monitor-S32D850T/dp/B00L3KNOF4/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
www.amazon.com/Samsung-U32H850UMN-Desktop-3840X2160-Warranty/dp/B071Y6SWGT/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_pl_foot_top?ie=UTF8
I actually own and am using the U32H850UMN right now. It's a fantastic monitor and one of the best I've ever used in terms of color and black levels. I am not familiar with the S32D850T, but it doesn't appear to have Quantum Dot so you'll lose out on the wider range of colors. The PPI on the 4K will be also be a lot higher. Just make sure you turn on some amount of scaling (full native 4K resolution on a 32" is still too small to be usable IMO). On mine I have it set to Retina/HiDPI WQHD resolution (2560 x 1440), so the text are razor sharp and it looks just jaw dropping.
Worth the extra $250 for the wider colors, higher resolution and PPI will be up to you decide.
You might want to also check out the 32" and 27" CHG70 series. They are only WQHD resolution, but they have a much higher refresh rate (144Hz), has HDR and in my experience can go a lot higher on brightness. They are curved however so they might not work best for mainly photo production.
ok since I am a developer I use my monitor a lot. Which monitor would the contrast be higher. What is quantum dot is it aimed for photographers or gamers. I just want a monitor with deep blacks and sharp text. Wouldn't 4k have more clearer text and btw i am not in for gaming just office use, so curve is a no for me. Also by the way i confirmed this monitor is a va, quantum dot monitor. I wanted to state that I only care for the deep blacks, text razor sharp, and color production which is also good I heard with Quantum dot. The thing is with Quantum dot technology will you loose the deep blacks like in your monitor
This is a persons review on this monitor: you can skip to 10:25 where he talks about the blacks of the monitor. Can you actually check that does your monitor have more or less bleed than this one. THANKS alot
th-cam.com/video/RWFs-7fEbeE/w-d-xo.html
Monitor is samsung website
www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/32--uh850-uhd-monitor-with-quantum-dot-lu32h850umnxza/
I ordered four of these monitors and only one out of the four had actual backlight bleed. The rest are perfect, but you will need to be viewing the monitor at straight eye level. Severe deviation and you will get some minor light glow from the corners, sides, etc. This isn't bleed, but more of a viewing angle problem. Again, when viewed straight on, a black screen is pretty much pure black.
The contrast/black levels are excellent, way deeper than any IPS or TN monitor I've used.
You can get razor sharp text if you turn on scaling (even to 120% on Windows) or use a Retina/HiDPI resolution on a Mac.
Quantum Dot just extends the range of colors (wider gamut), so reds will be more red, greens will be more green, etc. The monitor comes professional factory calibrated so yes, the colors are very accurate. You can always tone down the colors if the saturation is too high.
Good luck!
So your saying I shouldn't see difference between the contrast on these 2 monitors?
thanks, linus. this helped me teach my friend (whos not as much of a computer nerd as i am) on what types of monitors he should get
Didn't mention the awful black levels (ie grey) of IPS. It's much more important to be able to see details in a night scene than to care about an extra 6ms response time or that extra 4% of the sRGB colour space.
+other tomperson Yeah, I'm thinking of getting a new monitor soon, and that's what I'm worried about with the new Philips 43" 4K monitor which is IPS. So I may just go for the previous 40" 4K VA one, as I watch a lot of movies and black levels are important to me.
the va is good for gaming ?
Johnny Boy I use the Samsung JU6400 TV when I want to lay back and watch a film, or play a game with a controller. It's 4K, 40" (though they have a range of sizes), VA, and with Game Mode on it's a fantastic gaming monitor and not too expensive either. My parents have an IPS TV and for me VA is definitely the way forward until OLED becomes affordable.
I ended up getting the Wasabi Mango UHD400 monitor. Good colour, contrast and blacks :) So much better than my previous TN monitor which had crappy contrast and washed out blacks. (unless you lowered the brightness in Nvidia Control Panel, causing you to lose detail in night scenes)
It's crazy how much Tech evolved in the past 10 years. My current monitor has 280hz (1080p) ips panel with 1ms... And costs around 350$😂
Children in Africa could have eaten that graphics card...
What have we done to deserve the insults?
@@Poorgamer8812 Imagine getting around for dinner just to feast on GPU's 🤣
@@mobarakjama5570 the thermal paste has a nice kick to it, don't ask me how I know
@@M_773 how do you know, you obviously want someone to ask
Omg Linus was a baby 7 years ago!
11 years later and I still found this informative.
Linus won't reply to this ):
Hint: Move the lapel mic farther away from your throat. It's picking up too much of your voicebox, making you sound congested.
So is better to Buy PLS Panel ?
idk
Great filming angle, great contrast and exposure and not to mention a very informative video! Liked!
Can't stop to be amazed that in 7 years (2020), we got for example a 1ms 360HZ IPS monitor, 144HZ 4K monitors, HDR, 49 inch monitors, Oled... and so many variety to the monitor market, that would make this Linus grow a viking beard... Yeah, we got a Beard Linus in 2020
Love you Linus! Been watching all your videos since you started and I'm always impressed. The videography on the TechQuickie channel is superb keep it up!
First time I've seen any of your videos. Very fast explanations, which is why I came here. Thank you! (And, yeah, your playing with that 680 had my heart skipping beats!)
WTF was that ending?! Thanks for the info though.
Almost 2020. Probably one of the older vids that deserves an update. :)
So gamers who want 120hz + are stuck with the inferior screen type in terms of contrast ratios and color accuracy?
That sucks.
No ISP or PLS panels with low latency and high refresh rates? Damn.
There are Korean monitors from companies like QNIX and X-Star that are PLS and you can overclock the refresh rate to at least 90hz.
Korean panels bro overclock em
Brandon McGhee ^this
You'd think that instead of coming out with all this 4K and 5K crap, electronics companies would manufacture more decent monitors that are both fast AND color accurate.
So far only Asus and Phillips (and I think Acer?) have FINALLY gotten around to it.
Utter nonsense!
I don't know if you are still in the market for a monitor, but Mikihara reminded me that there is a 1440p 144hz IPS G-Sync monitor by Acer coming out soon called the Acer XB270HU.
Linus, please do a Techquickie episode on the difference in response times and a contrast ratio explanation :)
I had been very unhappy with my TN monitor, a Samsung S24D300HL. While it really was super responsive (remarkably so) and provided rather vivid colours, literally everything else about it was irredeemably awful. No brightness consistency across the screen, limited viewing angles and, most disappointingly, exceptionally bad "blacks", which were hardly even dark grays. However, I didn't really know what else to get, or more specifically, whether a different panel type would even solve my issues. This video pointed me in the direction of VAs, so I read up on the technology, compared a few devices and ultimately decided on an inexpensive BenQ VW2430H just to try it out. I'm really happy with this decision, so I just wanted to thank you for your informative video. It really helped me out.
Linus was 12 when he did this video
Have you thought about calling the episodes Tech Quickie along with the channel instead of "As Fast as Possible"? I feel like it would be more fitting for this series.
A great video. I just hope that you will keep updating once new panels/options come out. Thats the one thing missing online, there is a lot of information but when you want to buy something new you just have to do research for a day or so.
It would be cool if y'all could do an updated version of this.
I still have no idea how IPS works... those videos were really low quality back in 2013 and still were the best videos in that time, that's how much YT video-quality grew the past 8 years
I don't get people who say "oh ill buy a TN panel because its faster for games"....seriously ive tested a 1ms TN vs a 5ms IPS and the difference in motion blur is negligible at best! difference in input lag is also negligible. But the difference between TN's inferior colours and viewing angles compared to those on an IPS is night and day! I used to be a fan of TN until I was completely blown away by IPS. I cant even handle the site of TN anymore. once you experience IPS you'll NEVER go back to TN regardless of whether or not you're a gamer or graphic designer.
Could u pls tell me which were the 1ms and 5ms panels u tested
when a 144hz ips monitor gets a reasonable price tag I'll be sure to get one. until then, tn is the way to go.
+iamthewizard2 well, i used a 60hz IPS tv as a monitor for 3 years, and now i'm on a 144hz TN panel.
here's my two cents: black are SO MUCH WORSE.
color is also much worse
but input lag is godly better. uncomparably.
also using 144hz for a day will make you never want to go back to 60hz. it seriously looks what 30hz looks like if you're used to 60hz.
i am amazed at the clarity of the video
I'm honestly considering going back to CRT. Who cares how bulky it is if it's fast, has good contrast and looks the same from any angle? LCDs are a constant compromise.
Murad Beybalaev they damage your eyes wayy more than any other monitor
ha! still rocking my NEC fe1250+ 1600x1200 @ 85hz . none of my friends lcd monitors can hold a flame against this 22" (square) 87lb beast. but omg the picture. plus, if I have to, i can drop down to 1280x1024 with no loss in image quality.
@srba filipovic Is that what the salesperson at best buy told you?? lol
srba filipovic
I live my whole pathetic life looking at a monitor. Half of that at a CRT. People always prophecize me losing my vision or even going blind. I know for a fact from experience that monitors don't damage your eyes. Medical chekups never found any worsening in my vision in my whole life. Perfect vision still.
Explain to me why I have glasses on my face lol?
I don't know what my monitor falls under to be honest. Interesting, I think I will do some research on these different types of monitors.
Good video Linus. Thanks.
They are the same. The "LED" monitors has a LCD in front but the back lighting is LED while the regular "LCD" monitors has cathode back lighting.
Are MVA panels good for gaming ?
that final freeze frame still haunts me to this day...
this has to be the video i've watched the most just because i've forgotten this information so many times
The BenQ XL2411 sure has dogshit colours (Unless you play around with the settings) but boy is it a great gaming monitor!
Yeah. I've found response time to be a sort of fuzzy spec, there's no standard way of measuring it. Like contrast ratio, it's a spec that can largely be ignored from what I've seen.
Me an intellectual watching in 2019 when we have way better stuff.
Shut up
Damn! You fooled me into watching the video to the end. Normally, I wouldn't do that but the video card in your hand kept me interested.
whats wrong with motion blur? if anything its more realistic...things blur when going fast lol. wave your hand infront of your face. you will see what i mean. and the input lag is between 2-3ms difference.So the effect is quite small.
It's annoying for competitive gamers, that's why I prefer higher refresh rates and no motion blur at all.
Ithink it looks pretty cool, but still tend to set it at medium on Crysis. Most control freaks seems 2 dislike it for reasons like Pervy just mentioned though.
Pervy Pervy you must like ULMB function on the new Nvidia G-Sync Monitors... (Ultra Low Motion Blur... ;)
tredfxman Yeah I'd love to try it out.
Shod even be good in movies, when like cars drive by fast, if u want to see them more clearly u just switch on ULMB physcial button directly on the monitor.. kinda neat ;)
Watching this old vid on a 144Mhz IPS panel... how times have changed.
Is IPS worth buying does it make noticeable difference? I want a display for graphics design
Yes, it is.I've got a TN and an IPS for my desktop and for graphic deisgn I go for the IPS ^^.
For graphics design IPS is mandatory. I recently upgraded from a TN to an IPS and the difference is like night and day. Especially if you have them side, by side.
Thanks for the info I bought IPS :D
He talks about response time but if it's less than 10 ms response time then it's fine.
jpchevron Linus says IPS has motion blur. Is it noticeable while watching movies?
Linus, you should watch this to get ideas for your new Monitor /toosoon
Ips arent that bad now.
Slow Response time and input lag are things of the past.
What motion blur?
because " motion blur " is not the correct terms for Ghosting.
Dude Response time is number 1 useless specs on monitor because there's no real standard on how to measure it and every manufacture measure it very differently from each other.And on top of that no one can see 4ms or 1ms or even 8ms pixel movement.This myth always survive till now because when the first IPS technology is launched they has a very slow response time.But now IPS can achieve 144hz frequency just like TN. So if u can spot a ghosting on 4ms response time then i dont believe u. try this then to prove it www.humanbenchmark.com/tests/reactiontime . and the terms " GREY on GREY 2 GREY" "GREY" means color. Not the grey color we know. and manufacture use different color to measure the g2g response time.
CRT always better than TN OR IPS.
In terms of response time.
But ghosting always happen and u can see if u use high speed camera.
But if u dont, i am 100% sure u wont be able to notice it even at slowest IPS panel when gaming.
E-sport use TN because of marketing BS.They ate PIE from manufacturer that make some products labeled as" GAMING ".
From chair to headset,glasses pffttt and other peripherals.
And if u are saying that.
"Even IPS with 4Ms responce & 144Hz gray to gray just dont perform as they should.
It's the limatations of IPS "
And so the TN.
Their G2G response time dont perform as they should because there's no real standard for that and every manufacturer measured it very differently.
take a look at this.
u.cubeupload.com/Glenwing/ResponseTime2.png
that is the benchmark from glenwing an LTT display expert.
which clearly shows a 12ms PLS monitor more or less equalling a TN 5ms monitor from another vendor.
Motion blur and slow response time in IPS panel are thing of the past.
***** you dont capture an image of moving object on monitor because it always looks blurry unless u are using special camera like phantom camera in video format.
Its because u never use a good IPS monitor.
according to glenwing benchmark. a 12ms IPS from samsung monitor has a better response time than 5 ms TN.
A good TN panel will have a slightly good color reproduction than ordinary TN but will never be as good and vibrant as IPS.
That is depends on what backlight u are using. If u buy a budget monitor it will often has edge lit backlight and backlight bleeding often happen with edge lit monitor.
But if u buy a monitor with Full array led backlight then its rare for it to have such problem.
***** Dude i own a computer store and i am not one of those crazy salesman moment. i know what i am selling.
and i think people should stop saying that IPS arent great for gaming.Because they are not anymore.
Which IPS monitor did u have?
Yeah u should buy a modern IPS and if u are new on display technology i suggest u to sign up to LTT and asking around under display section the awesome community will help u out or PM me username Thread212 or just learn from wikipedia or Tft central.
I mean seriously. IPS is not what people thinks anymore.
They are getting much better now. i mean much more better.
What bothers me the most about ips panels is, they have poor contrast ratio. The VA panels have deeper blacks. I can't believe the jackass in the video didn't mention the downside of a ips panel.
@ Online_J .... its for eyefinity/nvidia surround.. or more known as triple monitor gaming.. u have t put ang angle to the monitors on side so technically your kinda viewing them sideways
Cheers linus your brilliant iv been wanting a tech-quickie done on this...
I'd probably personally would like a (slightly?) longer video describing and showing the different types side by side
It's 2024 rn, and tn panels aren't worth it.
The best gsming monitors that is the most popular is the IPS which is now cheaper and can go up to 540Hz
straight to the point. I miss this techquickie
I just found this channel and I love it! So much info for a quick refresher on tech.
+Adronomics check out also linus tech tips and tech of tomorrow and ncix tech tips
i like how linus is able to balance a video card here but in present times can't even hold a product without dropping it
I would suggest using a color tuning device, as Linus showed a couple of videos ago, they are often cheap, and will accurately adjust monitor color, specially on main branded ones, such as your dell.
Classic Linus doing Techquickies (comment from 2017).
I know, I know, and if you can afford even an entry level one then you probably don't care spending the tiny difference in electricity bill, that's why I said it was only a slight disadvantage, 15% more power matters a bit more in ultra/notebooks though.
Hey linus, can you do a cpu cooler roundup please?
Nice, I've waited for this video for a long time!
As short as possible: I switched from a TN monitor to a 144hz ips monitor and keep getting eyestrain and headaches since 4 days.
New monitor settings very similar if not the same to my previous monitor which was also a benq just not the same panel, even tough same symptoms after 1-2 hours of use…
Would highly appreciate advice or any kind of ideas that might help me out or fix the issue!
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I would like to see a future video on Graphics Cards and SLI / CrossFireX technologies.
Yup, I wouldn't even think about doing that to my GTS 450 let alone that beautiful card.
CRT monitors have no motion blur, accurate colors, wide viewing angle and can do high refresh rates.
Interesting Video. I would love to hear your opinion on UV2A compares to the aforementioned types. Keep up the great work chap. Regards
We need an update on this. Would you do this linus?
im so waiting for u to break something on camera, its rly about time!^^
Thanks Linus, I wasen't sure while looking for a screen and you gave me the best. Fast and easy vid about it.
PS: you're my favorite tech youtuber :)
Random Access Memory. Stores temporary files to make tasks perform more quickly.
rewatching this through my acer xb271hu..ahh how time flies
LG, Samsung, Dell, and others... get off your dang butts and get to makin' some 144hz, 1 to 2ms 1440p larger IPS/PLS panels already!!! :,(
***** Really looking forward to reviews on that - could be a game-changer.
***** will I have to sell my left testicle to afford it?
56theincredible
I can buy your testicle... I already soled the mine to get enough money to rebuild may computer...
I want muh 16:10 resolution of 2560x1600
Acer just did a little while ago
Just bought a month ago the very best gaming monitor (BenQ XL2420Z) for 392$CAD but since I've seen my mom's (iPad Air) which is 2560x1440 IPS on 9.7", I really feel like changing my secondary monitor (BenQ GW2450) which I was using for photo editing. I still consider it the very best value at only 160$ for 1080P since A-MVA have a 3x higher static contrast ratio than TN and IPS but it's viewing angles fall between these 2 other technologies.
Now I'm looking at one of the Korean 2560x1440 27" IPS between 300-380$ as those sold in America are total rip off that cost much much more even if it has the same LG or Samsung panel inside (-_-) but I still say the BenQ above is unbeatable at this price and is even gaming-proof for 60-71Hz as even a 1ms TN will suck if it's only at 60Hz. Hell... even a 144Hz TN is crap compare to those with strobbing such as my new Z series.
Radiators and fin density seems like a good fast as possible video to talk avout
whenever i have a question about what to buy.... Linus has me covered
1st of all, Hi... How are you doing?!
NOW, I have a question... What is IGZO Panel?!
Can you do a refresh of this video for all the new panel types we have now?
Quantum Dot IPS, Nano IPS, OLED, etc.
Samsung confirmed to be one of the first FreeSync monitor provider. i hope they bring up a PLS panel so we can kill the motion blur
Linus do processor socket types next.
there is allways such thing as input lag wich is not listed on most spec lists of a Monitor (unless your using CRT wich has almost non)
id recomend an asus tn like the vg236h which is well made and colours are perfect with minimal tinkering. The whole wider viewing angles(blown out of proportion as most people are in front of their monitor and the difference between the two is only obvious when you get to extreme angles) and colours is total bs. Ive owned both tn and ips and unless you want resolutions above 1080p tn is the way to go. The colours on tn are very good and they have MUCH depper blacks look into ips black glow.
Please do an updated version of this video.
I dare you to balance a Titan at the end of the next one.
still one of the best from linus. cheers !
Need a mid 2019 update to this video
So...the ipad has what type of panel?thanks in advance
I gather he means it's filmed but not yet released (posted).
Volatile memory loses all information stored on it when power is cut.
Great video, can you do one on LCD and DLP projectors
Am I the only one who said out loud "LINUS SEBASTIAN!" when he was balancing that 680?
@SpinnerSpencerTech I second this! also, does that mean as gamers we should get a tn? I want a nice monitor but don't want the narrow viewing angles. should we wait for newer technology before we invest a bit into a nice monitor with great viewing angles and fast reaponse and great picture?
The end hurt my inner hardware geek!
can you go into more detail about RAM and what RAM is right for different systems please?
for those who are impatient for the video, which may not even be coming, i will give an explanation.
Get however much RAM you need for what you do (web browsing/microsoft office is around 4 GB for a standard user, games are about 6gb and other stuff can go up from there). Speed really doesn't matter above 1600mhz, Don't waste your money, you won't notice. DDR/DDR2/DDR3 are not cross compatible. Try to match RAM as closely with each other as possible (same size, speed, brand, model if possible).
Sow tn is the best for gaming ?
Together with samsung qled
Because im always infront of the pc screen
can u even tell the difference between TN and IPS/PLS in terms of ghosting/motion blur.
stumbled upon this channel because my nintendo 3ds has a TN panel. :) Thanks for this very informative video
Dell S2716DGR is a very good tn monitor for gaming with only 1 ms response time ,1440p ,with a 27 inch screen with g-sync only for 449 on best buy can`t beat that.