Gotta disagree about Agatha ep3. While, yes, there were 6 whole minutes of credits after the actual episode, the episode itself played out like a full individual story. It introduced the problem, worked it and resolved it satisfyingly while moving along the larger plot and raising new questions and answers about the protagonists. Other short episode series simply felt like they ended abruptly with one of the above things missing and that's what I always disliked about several of the other D+ shows that clearly didn't understand TV as well as movies. That said, I caught it on an ad supported account and I have to say if all of these streamers are leaning into this format that they need to rediscover how to make shows with proper scene lead outs to fit placing ads. Some cut aways felt rough.
I understand that a lot of the time it's humorous, but I don't understand the need to rate everything against other shows. So much of what I watch is based on my mood. A show I thought was a 10 when feeling a bit blue will often be a 2 when I'm in a good mood. I just like what entertains me.
I have to disagree about episode 3 of Agatha feeling short. It didn't to me. I think because it was formatted for a trial each show to overcome. We get a resolution on each episode. I think for atleast me some shows seem too short because I am dying for answers and a lot of shows don't give any answers til the last episode of a season.
MAX’s on a run, from HOTD, to Industry, My Brilliant Friend, Penguin, next is Dune, then James Gunn’s Creatures, and then we get into 2025 with Last of Us, White Lotus, Peacemaker, IT, Dunk and Egg, and others. Come on
I strongly disagree about Agatha episode 3. To me it felt better paced than episode 1 for sure, and just as jam packed with story as episode 2. I don't think stretching it out to make it an hour would've done anything but hurt the episode. It was an escape room episode so by nature it requires time pressure and a frantic pace, and I think they captured that. And they don't want to let the teases of the witches backstories linger for too long so we learn too much. It was the right amount of everything for one episode of this show. Forcing it to be longer would've affected the pacing, and so this is one of those instances where I think the same thing you say about movie runtimes should apply.
This comes down to 'what counts as a spoiler', which everyone has a different answer for. He mentioned some story details for the episode, which to some people counts as major spoilers, and for others is not a spoiler at all. But again, for some people, just knowing something like 'they have a trial to complete' counts as a spoiler.
I miss the midnight drops... If it's a show I'm interested in, I can get up at 4am, put on some coffee... and enjoy the new episode with my breakfast before heading to work.
What really ticks me off is John considers Oz Cobb/Penguin the tertiary antagonist of The Batman when you really consider the Hierarchy of Villains in that movie, Falcone and Riddler are pretty much on the same plane, Falcone while being Oz's superior, also has a lot of influence because of the Renewal fund, he managed to take something with good intentions and use it to fund his Criminal Empire, which lead to Edward Nashton to become The Riddler and eventually strike him down. A more accurate way of phrasing it is to say Falcone is the overarching antagonist, because he is a villain who's power stems from his actions in the past that have influenced the present in contrast to the main antagonist, Riddler. While Penguin is the secondary antagonist.
@@tylerhenk87 I didn’t like The Acolyte either. But, John always says “I’m not gonna keep talking about something if I didn’t like it.” Yet, he’s still talking shit four months later. It’s been a great year for movies/TV and I wish he would hype up something like Penguin without spitting on Acolyte (again…)
John, don’t join Cineplex. You need to be the CEO of Cineplex. You are very humble, but at the same time you’re super fucking smart, rational, accountable and you would make them amazing ❤️
Penguins reported numbers were US while Acolyte was WORLDWIDE and one extra day. The comparison is idiotic. So Penguin viewership was also higher in general.
Why compare Acolyte to Penguin? They are completely different shows? Or if the goal is to compare two completely different shows... why not compare it to a new anime or something? Weird choice for comparative pick in my opinion.
@@philipolivares2484 Then its a weird thing for the other person to compare. Either way, this specific comparison between these two shows still doesn't make sense to me... and, giving some bad comparative conversation he saw/had on the wild internet a full news story, seems weird to me. Perhaps I would have just preferred a different news story then. Maybe that's my issue. Who knows. Have a great day.
@@kurtmaryville4941They are both tv series, hence they are always comparable, it's not like you can't do that just because you personally feel like you shouldn't, animated series are a different medium, same goes for movies, so in those case the comparison makes less sense, but TV series are all part of the same medium regardless of their genre and targeted audience, so there is nothing that can stop people from comparing *breaking bad" and "friends" if they feel like it, there is nothing wrong with it. In this specific case, the comparison wasn't even between the content of the shows, it was merely a statistic comparison between the pilots episodes, so what the shows being different has anything to do with how much viewership they gained with their opening episodes? Of course the answer is absolutely nothing, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to make this comment since you're complaining about nothing. Have a good day aswell.
Yeah, I loved episode 3. Simple as that. And Ballerina looks spectacular. I will be there to watch day one. TLOU Part 2 is my favorite of the games. So, yeah. I'm hyped on what I saw trailer wise.
Sooo, you're currently using Disney plus for free? And you have no plans on signing up? Other than a NOT PAYING potential viewer... What exactly does Disney lose by cracking down on password sharing?
Hopefully the way The Last of Us season 2 adapts the second game’s ideas is better. Because I hated The Last of Us 2’s story. So I am dreading whats to come and not the good kind of dread. But maybe they can still salvage this and execute it really well.
It kinda is.... If you had a service that you created for the sole purpose of people paying you money to use said service, and then customers find a workaround to use your service without paying for it, have they not robbed you of your fee? They have used your service and not paid for it.
Stealing is a crime. This is not. At worst it's a violation of their TOS but not a crime. I'm not even making a moral argument, only a semantic and technical one. If it were a crime, they have all they need to prosecute. Has anyone ever been prosecuted under a theft statute or ordinance for password sharing a streaming account? Has anyone been prosecuted under anything for password sharing a streaming account?
@beaver6d9 OK... so we agree it is morally wrong? And therefore you shouldn't do it? And Disney are justified in taking steps to stop people from abusing their service. It is reasonable that they expect all users to actually pay? OK sweet, so have nothing to argue over.
Last of us season 2. When IT happens, IT has the potential to be the biggest OMG moment in tv history. It's gonna be big time television. So f#@&ing hyped for this. All Video games aren't for kids, this is how a video game should be adapted to the screen.
It's subjective I guess but i just dont know how you can like the abby character in the game. She's a sociopath and a horrible person. Hopefully they make her a better character in the show
it's because you play as Abby and take on her journey. she was a good person who was wronged when her dad was killed. it doesn't matter if it was Joel or not. Her motive for revenge is as valid as ellie's. hope this let's you think on it differently even if it doesn't change your mind.
Rings of power S2 Ep7 was amazing. The dialogue is better this season, but I loved (not enjoyed) every plot line from season 1 and this over arching plot culminating with EPISODE 7 has been more than we've ever gotten from HOTD... And more than the blue balls we got from that Shogun tease
John,-sigh- I think it's your responsibility to give restraint to Ray's incesant release of his thin views, or at least advise him on how to properly construct his arguments. His kind of getting on my nerves lately with his unwarranted and untimely takes. Thank you and I hope this will be addressed soon enough. He sometimes give some funny quips but let's be honest, he's not built for giving good and enciteful commentaries. Your's is enough already, and Jonathan'sand Kris'. Thank you and hoping that you'll at least consider this.
John always says a movie's runtime depends on the movie. But yet complains about tv episode length. Last night's Agatha episode was, yes, maybe only like 30 minutes without credits but I thought the length was totally fine for what was covered.
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Gotta disagree about Agatha ep3. While, yes, there were 6 whole minutes of credits after the actual episode, the episode itself played out like a full individual story. It introduced the problem, worked it and resolved it satisfyingly while moving along the larger plot and raising new questions and answers about the protagonists. Other short episode series simply felt like they ended abruptly with one of the above things missing and that's what I always disliked about several of the other D+ shows that clearly didn't understand TV as well as movies.
That said, I caught it on an ad supported account and I have to say if all of these streamers are leaning into this format that they need to rediscover how to make shows with proper scene lead outs to fit placing ads. Some cut aways felt rough.
If John walked up to me off the street and said episode 3 I’d have no idea what he was talking about.
I'd think he's talking Star Wars 😆
I understand that a lot of the time it's humorous, but I don't understand the need to rate everything against other shows. So much of what I watch is based on my mood. A show I thought was a 10 when feeling a bit blue will often be a 2 when I'm in a good mood. I just like what entertains me.
I have to disagree about episode 3 of Agatha feeling short. It didn't to me. I think because it was formatted for a trial each show to overcome. We get a resolution on each episode. I think for atleast me some shows seem too short because I am dying for answers and a lot of shows don't give any answers til the last episode of a season.
MAX’s on a run, from HOTD, to Industry, My Brilliant Friend, Penguin, next is Dune, then James Gunn’s Creatures, and then we get into 2025 with Last of Us, White Lotus, Peacemaker, IT, Dunk and Egg, and others. Come on
I strongly disagree about Agatha episode 3. To me it felt better paced than episode 1 for sure, and just as jam packed with story as episode 2. I don't think stretching it out to make it an hour would've done anything but hurt the episode. It was an escape room episode so by nature it requires time pressure and a frantic pace, and I think they captured that. And they don't want to let the teases of the witches backstories linger for too long so we learn too much. It was the right amount of everything for one episode of this show. Forcing it to be longer would've affected the pacing, and so this is one of those instances where I think the same thing you say about movie runtimes should apply.
I didn't think it felt really short at all. Not sure how John felt that
It felt like they stretched the hell out if this episode. Agathas secret was corny. Overrated
Bet Ray tensed up when they started talking about sharing accounts lmao 😅
Talking about Agatha,
"I don't wanna give too much for those who haven't seen it-" immediately starts spoiling it.
This comes down to 'what counts as a spoiler', which everyone has a different answer for. He mentioned some story details for the episode, which to some people counts as major spoilers, and for others is not a spoiler at all. But again, for some people, just knowing something like 'they have a trial to complete' counts as a spoiler.
I miss the midnight drops... If it's a show I'm interested in, I can get up at 4am, put on some coffee... and enjoy the new episode with my breakfast before heading to work.
180 million - Disney never said dollars - it's actually pounds - so around $ 230 million.
"im sore-eeee" 😂
John always says he doesn’t dwell on hate, but it really feels like he’s getting all the mileage he can out of shitting on The Acolyte.
Right!
Everyone's got an opinion, okay? He's entitled to say that about The Acolyte.....Even if he has a negative view of that show.
What really ticks me off is John considers Oz Cobb/Penguin the tertiary antagonist of The Batman when you really consider the Hierarchy of Villains in that movie, Falcone and Riddler are pretty much on the same plane, Falcone while being Oz's superior, also has a lot of influence because of the Renewal fund, he managed to take something with good intentions and use it to fund his Criminal Empire, which lead to Edward Nashton to become The Riddler and eventually strike him down. A more accurate way of phrasing it is to say Falcone is the overarching antagonist, because he is a villain who's power stems from his actions in the past that have influenced the present in contrast to the main antagonist, Riddler. While Penguin is the secondary antagonist.
Because its terrible, why are you trying to hide that? Doesn’t fit your agenda?
@@tylerhenk87 I didn’t like The Acolyte either. But, John always says “I’m not gonna keep talking about something if I didn’t like it.” Yet, he’s still talking shit four months later. It’s been a great year for movies/TV and I wish he would hype up something like Penguin without spitting on Acolyte (again…)
SO EXCITING to have some The Last of Us news on OUTBREAK DAY 2024!!!! Season 2 trailer is a banger!!!
...now if we just got some Game news as well...
Greetings and Salutations Campea crew. Great to have Keanu in the studio today too
at 1:19:50 y'all should've just told ray "yes I think that's exactly what lionsgate was planning" to see how gullible he really is 😂
thanks for let me know about the fan screening of Joker 2
Do you think Disney+ will ever add a "live" steam that would rotate random movies/shows on the home page of the service?
Red Guardian totally dies in Thunderbolts*.
Also I have a theory that Sentry gets killed by Doom in Doomsday to establish how powerful he is.
John, don’t join Cineplex.
You need to be the CEO of Cineplex.
You are very humble, but at the same time you’re super fucking smart, rational, accountable and you would make them amazing ❤️
I want a Ray Ora podcast!
What’s up team Campea !
I hope there is some more action in Last of Us as that was the one issue I had with the 1st season.
Penguins reported numbers were US while Acolyte was WORLDWIDE and one extra day. The comparison is idiotic. So Penguin viewership was also higher in general.
John Campea...THE MILLIONAIRE NOBODY??😄😄
Why compare Acolyte to Penguin? They are completely different shows? Or if the goal is to compare two completely different shows... why not compare it to a new anime or something? Weird choice for comparative pick in my opinion.
A better comparison would be The Penguin vs House of the Dragon
He literally said because he had the exact conversation with someone online so he decided to go more indepth, like it's the first thing he says.
@@philipolivares2484 Then its a weird thing for the other person to compare. Either way, this specific comparison between these two shows still doesn't make sense to me... and, giving some bad comparative conversation he saw/had on the wild internet a full news story, seems weird to me. Perhaps I would have just preferred a different news story then. Maybe that's my issue. Who knows. Have a great day.
@@kurtmaryville4941They are both tv series, hence they are always comparable, it's not like you can't do that just because you personally feel like you shouldn't, animated series are a different medium, same goes for movies, so in those case the comparison makes less sense, but TV series are all part of the same medium regardless of their genre and targeted audience, so there is nothing that can stop people from comparing *breaking bad" and "friends" if they feel like it, there is nothing wrong with it.
In this specific case, the comparison wasn't even between the content of the shows, it was merely a statistic comparison between the pilots episodes, so what the shows being different has anything to do with how much viewership they gained with their opening episodes? Of course the answer is absolutely nothing, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to make this comment since you're complaining about nothing.
Have a good day aswell.
I agree with you. But John does explain why he's comparing them. But yes, I agree.
Ian McShane looks younger in this trailer than in any of the John Wick movies. When does this take place
I'm with Ray, Winston is a alil rat. He's all about himself, He'd betray anyone if it meant he gets to keep his power
Yeah, I loved episode 3. Simple as that.
And Ballerina looks spectacular. I will be there to watch day one.
TLOU Part 2 is my favorite of the games. So, yeah. I'm hyped on what I saw trailer wise.
WOM is going around for the Penguin. Even my 70 year old mother asked me what its about and if she should watch it!
Disney thinks people like them enough to make extra accounts? Lol we'll see. I'm definitely not doing it.
Sooo, you're currently using Disney plus for free? And you have no plans on signing up?
Other than a NOT PAYING potential viewer... What exactly does Disney lose by cracking down on password sharing?
Hopefully the way The Last of Us season 2 adapts the second game’s ideas is better.
Because I hated The Last of Us 2’s story. So I am dreading whats to come and not the good kind of dread.
But maybe they can still salvage this and execute it really well.
Salvage? Lol. My advice would be to not watch it because if you hated the game you are going to hate this and so why watch something you hate?
I wont be watching, the second game sucks and so will season 2. Id rather watch the acolyte again.
@@tylerhenk87 then do that. No one will be forcing you to watch season 2
I'm scared of TLoU S2
Is the Ballerina a prequel or something after John Wick 4 ?
It is indeed!
@@xy28100LMFAO this is actually the only answer
It takes place between 3 and 4. That is confirmed by production.
@@yeetnessmcfinn501 I couldn't help myself 😂😂😂
Password sharing is not stealing
It kinda is....
If you had a service that you created for the sole purpose of people paying you money to use said service, and then customers find a workaround to use your service without paying for it, have they not robbed you of your fee? They have used your service and not paid for it.
Yes it is
It is stealing
Stealing is a crime. This is not. At worst it's a violation of their TOS but not a crime. I'm not even making a moral argument, only a semantic and technical one. If it were a crime, they have all they need to prosecute. Has anyone ever been prosecuted under a theft statute or ordinance for password sharing a streaming account? Has anyone been prosecuted under anything for password sharing a streaming account?
@beaver6d9 OK... so we agree it is morally wrong? And therefore you shouldn't do it? And Disney are justified in taking steps to stop people from abusing their service. It is reasonable that they expect all users to actually pay? OK sweet, so have nothing to argue over.
1:08:54
Last of us season 2. When IT happens, IT has the potential to be the biggest OMG moment in tv history. It's gonna be big time television. So f#@&ing hyped for this. All Video games aren't for kids, this is how a video game should be adapted to the screen.
It's subjective I guess but i just dont know how you can like the abby character in the game. She's a sociopath and a horrible person. Hopefully they make her a better character in the show
Like her more than joel
it's because you play as Abby and take on her journey. she was a good person who was wronged when her dad was killed. it doesn't matter if it was Joel or not. Her motive for revenge is as valid as ellie's. hope this let's you think on it differently even if it doesn't change your mind.
Rings of power S2 Ep7 was amazing. The dialogue is better this season, but I loved (not enjoyed) every plot line from season 1 and this over arching plot culminating with EPISODE 7 has been more than we've ever gotten from HOTD... And more than the blue balls we got from that Shogun tease
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John,-sigh-
I think it's your responsibility to give restraint to Ray's incesant release of his thin views, or at least advise him on how to properly construct his arguments. His kind of getting on my nerves lately with his unwarranted and untimely takes. Thank you and I hope this will be addressed soon enough. He sometimes give some funny quips but let's be honest, he's not built for giving good and enciteful commentaries. Your's is enough already, and Jonathan'sand Kris'.
Thank you and hoping that you'll at least consider this.
I agree.
For me, Ray's more "everyman" non-pundit perspective is exactly what makes him so valuable to the show.
John always says a movie's runtime depends on the movie. But yet complains about tv episode length. Last night's Agatha episode was, yes, maybe only like 30 minutes without credits but I thought the length was totally fine for what was covered.
You clearly didn't listen to what I said.
Stop talking loads about The Acolyte, the only other people who do that are incels
What do you mean by incel?
Last of us second game sucked and killed the story line
You may not like the story but the gameplay was awesome
No it didn’t, story was just as good if not better then the first but to each their own
Waiting all season for abby to kill joel
More like one episode
Last of us sucked so bad… game was ok .
John, wonda isn’t that good. I rather Agatha.